"What About Dublin" Irish Police "Collusion" with the IRA? - Spotlight 2012
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"What About Dublin" Irish Police "Collusion" with the IRA? - Spotlight 2012
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What a mad history we have. Now more than ever we need to come together. Today we have a bigger enemy. We are the same. Lets protect this beautiful island together.
Who do you consider the bigger enemy?
Our own ignorance
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Don't think the Irish police or state where colluding anywhere near the level as the North, not saying it never happened. Just one offs
There was no collusion ad the dumb Garda we’re harder on the ira than the ruc we’re and maybe you had one drunken Garda telling stories but that’s it .
Yeah most likely was happening, but Collusion in the North was rife, as was Collusion from London with the intelligence services and military along with government.
"Do not show to the defence" for example.
Absolutely. The level of state/paramilitary collusion was much higher by far on the Loyalist and British side in Northern Ireland. The facts speak for themselves
Never Happened !!
@@user-sj1xn7wm2bMay i ask, what never happened can you be more pacific please
Not one shred of Evidence or Fact
A Payed Tout said this or that??
Absolute Nonsense.
The Irish State wasn't at War with Britain, so didn't need to support the IRA.
Where as the British were at War with the IRA, and did support the Loyalists.
Whataboutery indeed.
Sorry I missed the live chat on this. It’s possible that the Gardai tipped the IRA, but I can’t see this as something that frequently happened. The Gardai in general were not happy with PIRA.
Yeah, it's far from inconceivable that a powerful underground group would have some rogue cops on the payroll. Even the Mafia had its bad apple NYPD officers well into the 90s. But the Irish police, like the NYPD with the mob, never appeared too sympathetic as a matter of policy, to the IRA.
I'd think a few Gaurds mabey help the Republican movement, But the Free state and the Gaurds were never friends of the Movement over all ,
I dont remember the unionist apology for their sectarian state. They created the PIRA
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That Dundalk garda is a ...... well known.
None of all the years of turmoil in Ireland would never have happened if the British never invaded in the first place. Everywhere the British invaded they left wars and destruction behind them.
They left a few other things too you daft bogman... several codes of football, cricket, Shakespeare etc
I could never understand theft of Land under the guise of Colonialism.
Absolutely No Morals whatsoever.
It is a human trait, look at the celts romans anglo saxons normans the scoti tribe from north of ireland, etc etc etc, it is what happens on this crazy planet.
Include the Scottish Highland Clearances. Placing American Indians on Reservations. African tribes into Homelands are another example. Israeli Settlements are an example. Sadly, it's how the World works.
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The Brits learnt well from the Irish about colonialism, but mums the word aye, we wouldnt want to upset the Scots bubble on the look on being the true celt Natives there..
@wor53lg50 You are confusing Emigration with Colonialism .
I don't ever remember the the Irish Flag and Irish Government in Scotland.
The Westminster Government and their flag still flies in the Colony, well not for too long more thankfully.
@@georgebrowne5935 whats the difference?, multiculturalim, diversity its all the same, its just called soft colonialism or the sneaky way, achieving your goals in a longer end game without violence, bred out or pushed out due to finding surroundings incompatible to yours, white flight like in London..and no, the ancient raids into Scotland from the Irish who eventually wiped out the picts and settled gaelic tribes is what im going on about and they wasnt friendly incursions either...sorry if this darkens your Irish rose tinted glasses, but its the truth..
Overt he yearsI think there were about three instances where the Irish police colluded with the Brit and one was named Crinnion
"Whatabout-ery" lol this was before Whataboutism became a buzzword
If Whataboutism can be used then it leaves no moral ground for the side who uses whatever condemnation in the first place, so shouldn't have said it from the get go to guide a narrative, Whataboutism is kryptonite to marxist on the left..
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Yeah and his brother in-law was behind the slaughter of 29 innocent civilians at Omagh...
So the brits colluded with unionists!🇺🇲
A bit unbalance, sadly there was is likely some individuals with radical republican sympathies in the garda's. But nowhere never the proven levels of institutional collusion "secret war" by crown forces and entitites (like the then RUC) with loyalist paramilitaries as shown by numerous restricted and closedown investigations and media documentaries.
Also remember that republican groups both the IRA and INLA had killed unarmed gardai in the 80s when robbing banks or in high profile kidnappings, so no love lost there and then.
The former british general is sadly a poor mouth piece for this unbalanced and sadly biased view . As the GCHQ and intellence services ability even back then to monitor land-line and radio communications infiltrated republican groups was extensive. And if threats existed from the border the crown forces would and should have been on to Garda HQ and Parkgate street through channels requesting the irish governments commitment to the Anglo Irish agreements for regular search/ patrols along the border.
Tragically allowing deaths to occurring has and appears to be still allowed to protect source or obtain public shock adhorance to activities.
A film does not potray the truth of course there was connections between gaurds not ruc
It would be the same the same as the British government ya know they said they were sorry however it's just words ...most of the Republic was against all from s of violence , I say most people were completely sick of it by 1980....it was just a few rouge members of the guards and maybe one or two rouge political figures...Charlie haughy as an example ,he is a hated leader here ,...I think he was a good man but that's irrelevant
By 1990the irish state was geared towards no other end than ending violence and creating peace .
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The worst part about many of these documentaries is that theyre from British television and have a skewed viewpoint, sometimes borderline propaganda.
@@bfc3057 For example how they portrait the british army as this noble peace keeping force. Or how the ira are the biggest evil in the whole conflict I've watched countless documentaries and the britsh ones are meant to cater to their audiences preconceptions rather than being completely neutral for the most part. If you can't see that I can't help you.
I take your point in that most are produced generally by British media though on your other point I defo don't.
Investigative journalists have been a total credit to our people in documenting our history. They may be BBC or ITV but they know their job and most do it without favor.
Facts and truth.
Some make a mountain out of a mole hill granted but I know many that came from England being biased against one side or the other and over time and doing their actual job properly they became outstanding journalists getting the complete facts as people trusted them on the ground to open up to them knowing they wouldn't mix their words.
@@ATroubledLand to a majority ofbritish people the ira were bad and the british security forces were good..when the truth is gray and based on one's personal feelings. If you watch the news in the US or Britain isreal will be portrayed in one light and Palestine in another with it being skewed to whatever those who control the media want to be projected. Even the individual journalists can't completely mask their feeling on various subjects. My own personal bias would lean slightly left. As an Irish American I tend to have more sympathetic leanings towards the nationalists. It's human nature and can be seen everywhere if you read between the lines.
@@83reggieTmaybe your thoughts are scewed to and your anti-British as like many other Americans are especially those with that tiny bit of Irish blood they bang the drum so loudly about, in fact americans shouldnt really stick the two pennith in on either side due to not knowing the complexity of the whole thing, usually what i see them doing is stirring the pot and trying to seed division like scottish and even welsh ancestry americans are now started doing in the last couple of years, its due to nialism/marxist indoctrination from the education system, the old oppressors and oppressed straight from the playbook, maybe its better if yanks didnt have opinions on this, and when they do people shouldnt listen to them..
Arlene talking about genocide. Is she for real or just very dleudional?
The Garda colluded with the IRA and rightly so
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