It sounds like the u8n is better in almost everything but some highlights, and once the u9n comes out, it will be a clean sweep. We must try to get FOMO to use his elite/advanced contacts with Hisense to find out when that tv is coming.
Hey, Fomo. Greetings from Houston. I currently have a Samsung 85' QN90A. I want something bigger and better for a dark control room. I love OLED, but the G4 83' or 98' are too expensive. The Hisense 100' U8K is back to $3,000, and the 98' Sony X90L went down to $5,000. Is it worth the $2,000 difference? I also have a Sony OLED 77' X80J, so I know what Sony brings to the table in regards to processing and upscaling low content, but $2,000 is a lot. What would you recommend for size and price at these sizes ( 98-100). I don't do any gaming. I Just do streaming, OTA, and 4k UHD blu-ray movies. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks
FOMO the question is.. If you had to choose between the TCL and the U8N for your personal use which one would it be? Let's say that on Prime Day the U8N is $999 and the TCL $1199 which one would you purchase? 🤔
FOMO thank you ❤. You told me to buy this over the B7 and I did . I put it in my elderly neighbors home 75 inch and she is thrilled because I (you) saved her $500 dollars over the Sony . $1299 I got it on her Best Buy card 75 inch . She is over the moon 🎉
I own the 85", U8N and it's an excellent TV, it's not as good as an OLED but it's not far off and the Hisense is so much cheaper. As a budget TV it punches above it's class. either buy this Hisense or TCL, QM8 and you will be happy. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket go buy an OLED but for the rest of us on a smaller budget Hisense or TCL are perfect.
hey good for u. LED not as OLED is myth tho. Our Research 🔬 phd scientist professor De bunked OLED in class explain tV watching / movie/ oled vs LED. The BLACK does NOT exist. ANYTHIGN we see black are --processed by our BRAIN 🧠 when we see deep grey. True black is black hole in space lol. If u look at the Wall day time n sun set or evening . What color? Grey ? Yellow? Or white? Also true white doesnt exist. Brain tells u what is what. If u see grey wall think its WHITE because your BRAIN 🧠 tells u that the Grey is White. Lol. AS LONG LED so bright n rich in color BRAIN will- tell ANYTHING Near black as Black, n the brightness will Make medium grey even look more Black than WOLED or Dim QD-OLED like S90C s90D. A bright summer /spring morning ALWAYS look SIGNIFICANTLY more Clear than cloudy day or winter blue day. We walk in condo lobby of hi rise condo. Or hotel lobby, eveyrthing looks CLEAN 🧼 because its Bright n vibrant, NOT dim. It Matters the Brighness over Black. Brightness makes anything grey look Dark grey, anythign dark grey look Black. AS long as Color Density is VERY high, they look HIGH Contrast. WOLED look DIM - LOW color volume they are ultimate tinty. D Brighter of a TV, 📺 the High Density /color volume MAtters to make TV 3D 🥬 🐦🔥🍄🟫. VS 🧩 🌸🍉 tinty. S95C n U8N Qm8 have 3X color Density of G2 G3 G4. n they are Both Significantly brighter than S90C A90K Bravia 8, C2 C3 C4 S90D. lots image too dim 🧟♀️🧞🧞♀️ your 85” U8n will even look MUCH better than G4 for a lot of imagses since 85” so large all image stretched OUT. 💗 even that heart on 85” stretched out on 85” will look better on LED simply 3X color Density/color volume of U8N
@@christian6808 I took science . 🧬 our PhD scientist 🧑🔬 actually explained eyes 👀, image , tv watching . There is NO black black . No utter black unless in sealed BUNK . All dark grey sky any black couch , black coat ,🧥. Car 🚗 tire 🛞 r grey. But our brain 🧠 filter -- process it as BLACK . The same way any time our BRAIN 🧠 tells us the grey/beige indoor wall is white wall when there is NO true white . Because sun ☀️ white is always yellow tone. We do NOT need true Black , or Accurate color . We need warmth n brightness 🔆 :):) for eyes to recognize on Retina 👁️ nerve cells to see brightness n color to see things 3D. U8N U8K UX U9N will have extreme density of Color 3-X of Woled (including G3 G4) . So Mini LED can even look more CRISP on 77” n Larger panels . Being brighter n Utter Dense color volume alone ;):) 🥬 vs 🧩 :)🫶🏻
I just pulled the trigger on an A80CL 65" from Costco with a 5 year warranty for 1499. I know the LGs get a little brighter but I think the A80 will be plenty bright, it has an ATSC 3.0 tuner, and better processing. We use the antenna for local channels, all the majors are already 3.0 here and ABC & Fox both look substantially better in 1080P vs the 720 you get with 1.0. I could've done the C3 for $100 less but the tuner and superior audio alone were worth the spend. Now for the kiddie/surveillance I'm likely headed for the U7N. Thanks for so many fine & informative videos.
I picked up two weeks ago the 85 inch U8N, replacing a 77 inch Sony OLED A80J - So. I decided with the Hisense and got it for $1999. I was looking at the new TCLQM8 for 2024, but learned that the QD technology is not present in the 85 inch. So that was disappointing to me. Paris for the U8N over the OLED with my room application are bright HDR, low glare, and size for my application. Drawbacks are not as great at night, movies or very dark rooms, but still very acceptable. And not great at viewing angle, however, that’s not an issue for my set up an application.
Man, I can't calibrate my 85 for nothing. It's been a week and I'm thing of taking it back. It sucks because I was looking forward to this purchase but now I feel like I should have got the c4.
I need a 65" TV for a computer monitor for work as a sys admin, so mostly text. I am currently using a Samsung UN65JU7500 from 2016 and I am very happy with it, I use it morning and night but my wife also needs to use it to watch her TV shows. Would you recommend the U8N? or OLED? I can spend 30 minutes on the same screen only changing a few lines of text, would this cause burn-in?
@@gobofraggel7383 OLED is the best picture still. I specifically wanted an 85 inch TV and OLEDs make up to 83 inch so that’s why I went with the U8N. For the price point of this TV, it’s fantastic. The benefits are I like to leave my TV on and on my OLED I wouldn’t do that for image burn in. My room is fairly bright now and the screen is much brighter than my OLED and so I don’t have any issues with glare or things like that. It has fantastic blacks, deep, deep blacks, which is excellent. Of course it’s not going to be as good as an OLED for obvious reasons. This is less than half the price of the 83 inch OLED . I recommend it.
My only goal is to save someone, anyone from the horrors that come along with owning a Hisense TV. For the full version of my story and many similar stories. Just Google ‘Hisense problems’ or ‘I hate Hisense’. Their TVs are horrible and unreliable. I believe they have the worst reliability rating of all major manufacturers. And the Customer Service is just as bad. So if you have any issues, even if under warranty, good luck getting them to address it. As I write this I’m ‘Hard Reseting’ my TV probably for the 12th or more time. That’s back to factory settings. It will not fix any issues, for more than a minute. So please take my / our advice and just don’t purchase a Hisense TV. No matter how good it looks or how cheap it is.
@@Yoga_Tv_buying 75U6H. They eventually sent someone out. They replaced the main board and that seemed to fix the issues. I still don’t plan to buy another Hisense.
Honestly, I think the U9N will be more like the Bravia 9 because Hisense is taking Sony's approach to dimming zone control. At best its specular highlights will match the B9 but fall behind the QM8, however, its shadow detail and color volume/luminance should handily beat the U8N. In order to match QM851G specular highlights, U9N will have to deal with excessive brightness which is OK if they have a mode for it aka "Bright HDR Theater" which would be awesome!.
Asking you to look into your "CRYSTAL BALL" for me and recommend whether I should hold till the end of the year for 85" U8N, hoping for best pricing then? OR should I grab it before they are sold out? Don't think I'm gonna wait around for U9 deals in 2025.. I have an itch to scratch; moving up from Hisense 55H9G.. that I was very content with for 4 years
Oh dude they can turn it down at night . Like iPhone u turn it down at night take 5 seconds . Once u go to brighter phone (day time especially) u can not go back to dim . Just more clear 😊
I had the 55 u8n and definitely took it back before 30 days. I had black light issues, Blooming and halo, the back light would light up areas of the screen that should be dark . The youtube viewing was awful on dark RUclips videos the dolby vision was bad bad with back lighting it was like a grey haze over the whole screen. Apparently the 55 is different from the 65.. I'd advise against the 55 u8n I ended up with the qm8 and its a way better tv... the u8n was so bad I went to my vizio p Quantum to check the difference watching the same content and the vizio was better than the 55 u8n and that's saying something sorry I'm just sharing my experience. Maybe the 65 is better but the 55 was a bust i even updated the firmware from hisense and the tv was still broken
The Dolby vision was so bad on the 85 that I returned it….it made grain go crazy on Batman v Superman and the crow, unwatchable. Also local channels looked worse then my old Samsung ? Nice otherwise, very bright , good motion
@@stopthefomo 77" S90C still 2200 euros in my country, though i would spend that little extra for the OLED easily. Our prices include vat though, something to keep in mind.
Hmm. Hoping to get a response by today. I’m debating between the QM8 and the U8N. Currently have a Samsung 75” which went out on me in less than two years. My question is.. Is it worth dropping in size from 75” to 65” to gain better quality picture?
Yeah the 75” U8N U8K are best !! The 75” has d same screen of that 110” UX ! I have seen the 75” U8K in store it looks like the glossy black vibrant wet paint 🎨. They r so neat :)
Qm851 is good tho, just it will still have 🌈 smear on screen def not sever so I won’t care . But once u see the 75” U8K/U8N in bright store in person . U will understand. What special screen -- absorbs light than reflecting 💡 so when watching Dark content in bright room looks like a Star ⭐️ Trek portal
Absolutely. I have seen last year U8K 75” right under 77” Samsung S95D , Sony A95” in store . U can NOT tell that U8K 75” is LED . All d rest 5 other Panels around it were OLED / QD-OLED ! U8K with 3X Color density of LG G4(rich in color ) cast on brightness ! Dense clean visual ! That’s not even 2024 U8N . I would grab U8K U8N 75” any day :)
@@stopthefomosince I got your attention. I have one last question. I’m still torn between the U8N and an OLED. I’m trying to stay under $2,000 and that would more than likely land me with a 65” OLED. Any recommendations on an OLED around this price or go with the bigger U8N? I was initially set on the 65” S90D. But after all my research started to lean towards the bigger 75” U8N.
Im an oled guy? Now i have a s90d 55" in bedroom, but id like something huge like the u8n because of the price. Is the u8n a big step back from oled or its not an oled but very good or close?
@@jeffreyrodriguez9009 it’s out of box extremely bright. Don’t freak out . Just turn down black level , turn down brightness a bit , turn UP -“Color “ (density ) setting(most critical but ppl tend to skip ) , it will look 3D
The 75" version has an ADS Pro IPS panel which should have much better viewing angles than the VA panel across the other sizes. Not OLED level but a marked improvement.
The. U won’t like LG then . All LG LEDs n WOLEDs r green for decade even on vivid/standard mode . that Hisense Green is becusee in Theater /FMM mode has color filter .u can shed it in settings turn those off .
Are people constantly changing settings based on the content they watch? That would be so tedious and frustrating. Or do people find one setting and leave it alone?
I change all the time. Honeslty first time its confusing n like overwhelming. After like 3-4 weeks. U can do it with eyes shut. So fast. 💨 since all the U8 all tweak kinda similar so its like quite easy once u get 1 Hisense, d rest all similar. Kinda like Making pasta. Once u make 1 pasta all the time, u do NOT even measure just dump salt pepper butter etc. Every show takes like 5 seconds. NO joke, Once u have one u can NOT go back to “lack of setting” type of things.
This tv is about to be released here in Brazil. I want the 75" for the price. And this video was realeased in time, because I found out yesrerday that the 75" uses ips panel. Is that true? If so, ips panek usually has worst picture comparing to va panel. So is way worst comparing with the u8n va panel?
ADS pro has 2X contrast Ratio of ADS! It’s not IPS it’s not ADS.😊 it’s more premium than VA in my opinion . I have seen it (75” U8K ! Mind blown ) . I am getting 1.
Hey, I'm also from Brazil, and I'm really looking forward to the 75U8N, but the recent discount of the TCL 75C755 at R$7200 in 10x almost made me pull the trigger. Do you have any idea of when Hisense will launch the 75U8N here? Also, Rtings said they bought the 75U8N, I am waiting for their review.
@@leogradus nao, mano. Alguns caras dizem q é pra alum momento em agosto. Espero q ai caso nao apareca promocao fortr como a tcl c755, na black frirday aparece. Cara, a tcl c755 75" ja ta 6800/6900 no site magazine luiza é q ela é bem inferior a u8n e a tcl c855. Por tudo q vi a c855 é ate superior a u8n, mas a u8n tbm e top pelo preco. E como a c855 nao vem em 75" aqui no brasil infelizmente, q querem forcar a c755, vou dar preferencia. Mas como brasil e sempre fora da curva, se a u8n nao vier em promocao num preco bom q imagino uns 7/8, a c755 é uma opcao, pra mim. Agora, é esperar.
@@Yoga_Tv_buying thank you. Im hapoy to know that. Here in Brazil hisense will just release the u8n on 75" or bigger. And i can afford the 75" not bigger and i was thinking i was going to take something very inferior.
Went for this 65inch over an LG C3 oled on offer as I have a very bright room during the day, using with an Nvidia shield TV Plex server and an PS5, wasnt dissapointed at all. It isnt far off OLED quality, maybe 10-15%
U9N has…ADS-PRO (2 X contrast ratio of ADS) . It has the MOST Glossy (more glossy than OLED) Wet Black /red/green/ yellow paint type of look . I have seen pics from EU(they call it UX 65” 85”). I would AIM for U9N if i have Bravia9 budget.
Do you have an analog audio setup? Might be a better normal reference than using another tv like the G4 (like using a vinyl record, or raw recorded audio or something)
Im curious about these since they r top tier quality and affordable, but i cannot get over any of these mini led’s being va panels. I just feel like va is whack as hell with weird ghosting, bad viewing angles, and most importantly a shitty, unpleasing white point compared to qd oled and quantum dot IPS. IPS feels more elegant. I just got the Innocn 32” mini led and it’s fantastic. I feel like it’s on the same level as my s95b as far as hdr is concerned.
Well u have not had the Those for of VA panels once u go VA it’s very Hard to go back to IPS. The ADS-PRO resolve the angle issue tho. 180 degree viewing angle 📐, 2X contrast of ADS , 600hz screen refresh rate . 75” U8N U7N , Then U9N , UX :) 😊
@@Yoga_Tv_buying i wanna see ads-pro and i’m hoping that once the dimming zones start climbing to the tens of thousands, blooming with ips won’t be as much of an issue. I’m sure the contrast for va will still be better at that point. Maybe i should just get every kind of display. Oled is the most elegant, but it most definitely doesn’t provide the same level of punch in bright scenes. So off angle viewing of ads-pro does better with blooming cause this Innocn display is have def struggles with that. What VA would u recommend? I have 55” qd oled, 32” qd oled, and 32” ips mini led.
Hey, Fomo. Greetings from Houston. I currently have a Samsung 85' QN90A. I want something bigger and better for a dark control room. I love OLED, but the G4 83' or 98' are too expensive. The Hisense 100' U8K is back to $3,000, and the 98' Sony X90L went down to $5,000. Is it worth the $2,000 difference? I also have a Sony OLED 77' X80J, so I know what Sony brings to the table in regards to processing and upscaling low content, but $2,000 is a lot. What would you recommend for size and price at these sizes ( 98-100). I don't do any gaming. I Just do streaming, OTA, and 4k UHD blu-ray movies. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks@@stopthefomo
@@stopthefomo Thanks I will be doing 100 inch U8K videos soon when I come back from vacation. Im debating on coming to the tv shootout too or ces this upcoming year. I would like to have a discussion with all the manufacturers to explain to them that the home theater enthusiasts like myself want 100 inch sets at a reasonable price. For this reason alone I purchased the 100 inch U8K for $2999. I have exclusive content coming soon on it.
Hey just trying to help. Yes QN90C has amazing ADS-PRO panels. 75” Hisnsense 2023 U8K has the Exact ADS-PRO screen provided by same supplier as QN90C. Except Hisense U8KQ model will have better blooming control and significant better sound(with subwoofer n 4 extra speakers). YES. Samsung QN90C is great tv, I have seen it in person, significant better than X90L X93L Bravia7. Just with Hisense its yearly compared to QN95 Level. SO there might be some miss information here that ppl have confirmation bias.U8N is ABSOLUTELY better panel no doubt about it, U8N has Color Volume matching Samsung S95C. It’s Color Density/Volume, n incky black makes the tv looks like QD-OLED. It’s 😮🎉
Pick my 65 inch up on Saturday from BB. I returned last years U8K due to awful grey uniformity. Made sports unwatchable for me. How is the uniformity on yours?
Since you asked, I’m avoiding the U8N for the VRR bug RTINGs mentioned. It’s the same bug the U8K had that Hisense never bothered to address. Also, I’m very leery of Hisense support. Awful experience dealing with them last year. And then there’s the matter of buggy firmware updates lately according to recent forum posts. I’m just scared off of Hisense at this point.
That's good to hear. Thanks. U8K owners seem to be complaining about a recent update more than U8N owners this time around. Heck, even Sony burned X900H owners more than once with a questionable update. No brand is 100% safe.
55" Hisense 55U8N 672 VA 65" Hisense 65U8N 1,600 VA 75" Hisense 75U8N 2,000 ADS Pro 85" Hisense 85U8N 1,296 VA 100" Hisense 100U8N 1,620 VA Thats how many dimming zones dimming zones from Rtings. I would avoid the 55 inch version but above that its incredible.
@@CarsandCats From what I've read the response time of ADS Pro panels are better than VA panels so the motion should be handled better in theory. But given I have neither version of these TVs I can't assure you anything.
At this stage of the game, it's absolutely pointless to count dimming zones - it's more important to review how well those zones do their job: (1) tone mapping specular highlights (2) black levels (3) blooming/ghosting/halo. The whole point of local dimming is to improve performance of 1, 2, 3.
@Yoga_Tv_buying Is that for the QM851G, or the U8N? Because I'm trying to compare dimming zones for both models of those sizes. TCL claims 5000 dimming zones, but I want to know if it is for only the 85-inch+ models, or also the 75-inch.
@@TonyTundra5.7 Wrong, wrong, wrong - I was very wrong when I made that comment.. The U8N is an absolute turd when it comes to black level consistency. What I discovered is that no matter what you do, no matter what settings you change, the letterbox bars are constantly fluctuating. Sometimes they're inky black, and other times they look like something you'd expect on a $300 LCD. The local dimming algorithm on this TV is utter trash, and I ended up returning mine. I purchased a Samsung QN85D, which has a measly 160 local dimming zones, yet vastly-and I do mean vastly-better black level performance than the U8N. This is because it has far better processing and uses an amazing algorithm. Hisense has always cheaped out on processing, and they simply do not have the horsepower to adequately control all of those local dimming zones. I really wanted to like the U8N, but at the end of the day, you get what you pay for. My Samsung utterly destroys the Hisense in all the things that matter most to me: color production, processing, black level performance, and motion handling. Definitely not as bright though-not even close. Still, for a thousand bucks, the U8N is killer. Do not respond by claiming that your letterbox bars are always inky black. They are not-do not degrade yourself by lying
I rarely recommend these TVs for gaming only because firmware updates change things (good or bad LOL) and it depends on the game you play as well as your needs. It's fine in 4K60 HDR but true 120 VRR is always a crapshoot IMO.
I have my gaming PC connected via hdmi 2.1 to my new 85 inch U8N and game at 120Hz, 10 bit color, full RGB and HDR no problem. I did notice that when the TV is in gaming mode, it lowers the local dimming a bit so the contrast is not as high as watching movies but its really just trying to nitpick... Overall, looks great and I had no bugs with the VRR using my Nvidia RTX 4080.
X90L is def more crusty cuz it has 42000:1 contrast , U8N is 290000:1. X95L is 200000:1 . U8N will look very much QD-Oled . Becusee Its color Volum3/Density match Samsung S95C. X90L color volume is about X95K level , spend 8.5/10 (Rtings) d brighter the tv d Denser Color Volume make it more 3D/clean pop . 🥬 vs 🧩
@@aliazimi91 Lets put Apple Mac Pro with M4 chip with screen n blooming low contrast to see how that will upscale. Color accuracy is NOT important. U go outside of house, morning, sunset , evening u will see Grass/wall diff color. Whatever u are being TOLD SET this “this way” n U will see “THIS way” wont happen. Yes it is nice to have standard. But U will NOT watch 100% of your content with creator’s intent because simply eveyr house hold environment is diff, even same show watched diff time of day will be seen diff. Science babe. Told by PHD professor about TV watching. Actually “HOW our eyes see color”. SONY LEDS have Cool tone. Human biology 🧬 reacts to warm tone. During revolution, sun ☀️, grass, fruits, 🍎 animals., human skin all warm tone. We need to see MORE warm color to survive. A Warm tone spring morning always look MORE CLEAR than Cloudy day cool tone. Lack of Warmth , will cause Image/detail loss in your EYES. The Standard in Movie industry is nice to have, NOT most comfort in TV watching . Pale color or cool tone is never best. Im trying to help ppl like u. Thats sccience stuff taught in school no different what they teach in London Cambridge.
@@aliazimi91 Based on last year's Rtings measurements and reviews by Caleb from Digital Trends, I went with the X90L because I'm NOT willing to give up on color quality for brightness alone, especially for $1,300 for a 65-inch to $2,000 for an 85-inch. For now, the X90L still seems to excel in so many areas of performance at once, especially for its similar price. Only in the event Rtings's measurements suggest the TCL 2024 QM851G has equal pre-calibration color accuracy and PQ EOTF tracking would I EVER consider seeing if anyone would buy my X90L locally and replace it with the 2024 QM8 for that extra brightness. But until those numbers are in, don't rule out the X90L just yet.
Buying a Hisense is risky. Reports of models failing after a few years or with glitches and other problems. Maybe wait a few years for Hisense to get their QA under control.
That’s perception. Consumers r biased (they train us in Markrting , tier n pricing ). For example a few yr ago Apple so skechy that purposely send Firmware update to speed up kill battery in their flagship IPhone before new phone launch . Ppl paid $1480 n phone battery die fast , phone got slow . How skechy is that !!! 😮 why did ppl just forget about it ? Cuz ppl decided they don’t care , they still see it as “Good product “ . 😮 BUT if ppl have Large dogs , I anyone inform them :” small Yorkshire terrier (yorkie ) has Intellegence of Human 3 yr old child . Ranked smartest in small/ toy breed dog. Becusee they hunt vermins which r already smart/fast , they have to play strategy. Significantly higher EQ/IQ than Siberian Husky n number of large breeds survive in speed n endurance “ 😮 most Ppl have LARGE dogs that think small dogs r stupid or happy 😮will get OFFENDED 😅. Especially ppl own Husky because its GORGEOUS looks , wolf like face n Masculine features . “Yo u know all dogs r intelligent , Husky is average to lower side “ that will make them --- reject the TRuth , n seek ppl tell Them what they want to hear ! Human r 100% biased , if they feel towards the brand they will shred or bank/pile anything they want to hear , block anything don’t fit their narrative. 😊 what u hear Hisense fills your Narritive , n it creates an opinion which make us belive its truth. I have 2 U8 , 2.8 3.8 yr in $2500 USD later . Best money spent . My buddy’s parents have 2 BMW bought brand new , both have issues 😮brand new have to go back to shop. My friends swear will never buy BMW , kept telling me he hates BMWs cuz not good car in quality n road handling . I could NOT register lol at time listening 😮😂😅 but “I WISH I have 1 “
@@boom78 reports from where ???? Like others ppl Bad mouthing getting “reports from others bad mouthing “ from “reports from others bad nothing “….. when legit there 10% reports r legit . N the half of rest are known that Bestbuy order Employees calling HIseense bad quality breakdown . N d rest reach confirmation bias n just passing along as if it’s fact.
You will see more bad reports in mid range tvs vs OLEDs due to the amount of people buying mid range tvs , OLED is expensive for the average consumer so theirs less reports , OLEDs fail just as much , just don't see a bunch of bad reviews cause sales are lower as most of the average people are not buying thme
I have a script that runs on all my computers and streaming the blocks all NBA and NFL - ads, games, everything - will this keep the TV from working since they are a major sponsor of the hideous NBA?
You are officially banned from talking about the Bravia 9 until you spend time with the 85. Saw the B9 85 and the 77 A95L at Best Buy today and it's a true war.
@rkeith7766 except that is meaningless to me because I don't have ultrawide seating. I spent a part of my hour testing viewing angles and it's HEAVILY overrated. There's no spot in where you would normally watch TV that the view is substantially impaired. Have you seen one or are you just going off what other people have said?
Great review buddy! I tried keeping up with your settings changes but it all went a bit too quick for me at times. Lol 🎉 However, the 65” U8N has a VA panel and the 75” has the ads panel I believe. How much different do you think the 75/85” will be compared? 🎉 I have the Q90C and can tell there is a big deference with the Q90D having different panels. Also, love that you standardized your 65” size reviews, but imo the reason I would even consider the Hisense or tcl is specifically because their 75/85/98” sizes are more affordable. 🎉. I’d prefer to get the best quality 65” if restricted to that size. 🎉
@@dat1ytcomment262RTINGs is smart enough this year to review the 75” ADS Pro model separately from the VA model. That review will release in a month or so. Stay tuned.
I don't trust the components inside Hisense or TCL, they are cheaper for a reason, if you change TV's every few years it doesn't really matter but I'd rather buy a high end model and keep it for at least 5 years.
@@thesecondcoming4425 There is something in English called “ We are How we Speak.” 🗣️ What do u describe your self with yr last comment ?? NO comment lol. 😝 i am sure u think U surely Sound like Adult lol.
@@shanew7361 Here buddy . contrast : (Rtings ) UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024) UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX) Bravia9-380000:1 U8N---290000:1 X95L--200000:1 QN90D- 167000:1 U8k---165000:1 Qm851-161000:1 U8H-- 160000:1 C845--114000:1 Bravia7-100000:1 U7N---89000:1 Q90C-- 83000:1 U6N---80000:1 X93L---72000:1 U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 ) U7k----45300:1 X90L--- 42000:1 Rest of us will got for the U8N U9N UX . U r welcome to skip Hisense or TCL . Not everyone have to like same thing . Stop the trash talking :)
Honestly playing the audio in the video is a waste of time. 90 percent of us are listening through a phone and RUclips audio compression makes it totally pointless
@@stopthefomo Actually many of us will still listen on our home theatre speakers if there's an audio test section that warrants that. So keep doing what you're doing Fomo!
❤ X90L(contrast)- 42000:1 , U8N =290000:1. X95L- 200000:1 . ❤U8N will look very much QD-Oled . Becusee Its Color Volum3/Density match Samsung S95C. d brighter the tv d Denser Color Volume make it more contrast/3D/clean pop . 🥬 vs 🧩
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It sounds like the u8n is better in almost everything but some highlights, and once the u9n comes out, it will be a clean sweep.
We must try to get FOMO to use his elite/advanced contacts with Hisense to find out when that tv is coming.
Hey, Fomo. Greetings from Houston. I currently have a Samsung 85' QN90A. I want something bigger and better for a dark control room. I love OLED, but the G4 83' or 98' are too expensive. The Hisense 100' U8K is back to $3,000, and the 98' Sony X90L went down to $5,000. Is it worth the $2,000 difference? I also have a Sony OLED 77' X80J, so I know what Sony brings to the table in regards to processing and upscaling low content, but $2,000 is a lot. What would you recommend for size and price at these sizes ( 98-100). I don't do any gaming. I Just do streaming, OTA, and 4k UHD blu-ray movies. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks
FOMO the question is.. If you had to choose between the TCL and the U8N for your personal use which one would it be? Let's say that on Prime Day the U8N is $999 and the TCL $1199 which one would you purchase? 🤔
At 15.56. That Copa America game where Brazil was 1-0 up. I think Colombia drew or won.
I gave my U8K (This year's U7N) to my dad before I bought an S90C and S95D.
The U8 series is no joke, they are very nice TVs
love the speed ups and edits to show us everything but also save time
FOMO thank you ❤. You told me to buy this over the B7 and I did . I put it in my elderly neighbors home 75 inch and she is thrilled because I (you) saved her $500 dollars over the Sony . $1299 I got it on her Best Buy card 75 inch . She is over the moon 🎉
Excellent review FOMO 👍
I own the 85", U8N and it's an excellent TV, it's not as good as an OLED but it's not far off and the Hisense is so much cheaper.
As a budget TV it punches above it's class. either buy this Hisense or TCL, QM8 and you will be happy.
If you have money burning a hole in your pocket go buy an OLED but for the rest of us on a smaller budget Hisense or TCL are perfect.
hey good for u. LED not as OLED is myth tho. Our Research 🔬 phd scientist professor De bunked OLED in class explain tV watching / movie/ oled vs LED.
The BLACK does NOT exist. ANYTHIGN we see black are --processed by our BRAIN 🧠 when we see deep grey. True black is black hole in space lol. If u look at the Wall day time n sun set or evening . What color? Grey ? Yellow? Or white? Also true white doesnt exist. Brain tells u what is what. If u see grey wall think its WHITE because your BRAIN 🧠 tells u that the Grey is White. Lol.
AS LONG LED so bright n rich in color BRAIN will- tell ANYTHING Near black as Black, n the brightness will Make medium grey even look more Black than WOLED or Dim QD-OLED like S90C s90D.
A bright summer /spring morning ALWAYS look SIGNIFICANTLY more Clear than cloudy day or winter blue day.
We walk in condo lobby of hi rise condo. Or hotel lobby, eveyrthing looks CLEAN 🧼 because its Bright n vibrant, NOT dim. It Matters the Brighness over Black. Brightness makes anything grey look Dark grey, anythign dark grey look Black.
AS long as Color Density is VERY high, they look HIGH Contrast.
WOLED look DIM - LOW color volume they are ultimate tinty. D Brighter of a TV, 📺 the High Density /color volume MAtters to make TV 3D 🥬 🐦🔥🍄🟫. VS 🧩 🌸🍉 tinty. S95C n U8N Qm8 have 3X color Density of G2 G3 G4. n they are Both Significantly brighter than S90C A90K Bravia 8, C2 C3 C4 S90D. lots image too dim 🧟♀️🧞🧞♀️ your 85” U8n will even look MUCH better than G4 for a lot of imagses since 85” so large all image stretched OUT. 💗 even that heart on 85” stretched out on 85” will look better on LED simply 3X color Density/color volume of U8N
no oled inferior brightness respect Miniled!!!!!!! only black it's not enough
@@christian6808 I took science . 🧬 our PhD scientist 🧑🔬 actually explained eyes 👀, image , tv watching . There is NO black black . No utter black unless in sealed BUNK . All dark grey sky any black couch , black coat ,🧥. Car 🚗 tire 🛞 r grey. But our brain 🧠 filter -- process it as BLACK . The same way any time our BRAIN 🧠 tells us the grey/beige indoor wall is white wall when there is NO true white . Because sun ☀️ white is always yellow tone. We do NOT need true Black , or Accurate color . We need warmth n brightness 🔆 :):) for eyes to recognize on Retina 👁️ nerve cells to see brightness n color to see things 3D. U8N U8K UX U9N will have extreme density of Color 3-X of Woled (including G3 G4) . So Mini LED can even look more CRISP on 77” n Larger panels . Being brighter n Utter Dense color volume alone ;):) 🥬 vs 🧩 :)🫶🏻
@@christian6808 QD-OLED is brighter, even comparable with mini-led's.
I just pulled the trigger on an A80CL 65" from Costco with a 5 year warranty for 1499. I know the LGs get a little brighter but I think the A80 will be plenty bright, it has an ATSC 3.0 tuner, and better processing. We use the antenna for local channels, all the majors are already 3.0 here and ABC & Fox both look substantially better in 1080P vs the 720 you get with 1.0. I could've done the C3 for $100 less but the tuner and superior audio alone were worth the spend. Now for the kiddie/surveillance I'm likely headed for the U7N. Thanks for so many fine & informative videos.
I picked up two weeks ago the 85 inch U8N, replacing a 77 inch Sony OLED A80J - So. I decided with the Hisense and got it for $1999. I was looking at the new TCLQM8 for 2024, but learned that the QD technology is not present in the 85 inch. So that was disappointing to me. Paris for the U8N over the OLED with my room application are bright HDR, low glare, and size for my application. Drawbacks are not as great at night, movies or very dark rooms, but still very acceptable. And not great at viewing angle, however, that’s not an issue for my set up an application.
Man, I can't calibrate my 85 for nothing. It's been a week and I'm thing of taking it back. It sucks because I was looking forward to this purchase but now I feel like I should have got the c4.
@@Doyourownresearch00 what’s the issue you are having with U8N specifically on calibration?
I need a 65" TV for a computer monitor for work as a sys admin, so mostly text. I am currently using a Samsung UN65JU7500 from 2016 and I am very happy with it, I use it morning and night but my wife also needs to use it to watch her TV shows. Would you recommend the U8N? or OLED? I can spend 30 minutes on the same screen only changing a few lines of text, would this cause burn-in?
@@gobofraggel7383 OLED is the best picture still. I specifically wanted an 85 inch TV and OLEDs make up to 83 inch so that’s why I went with the U8N.
For the price point of this TV, it’s fantastic. The benefits are I like to leave my TV on and on my OLED I wouldn’t do that for image burn in.
My room is fairly bright now and the screen is much brighter than my OLED and so I don’t have any issues with glare or things like that. It has fantastic blacks, deep, deep blacks, which is excellent. Of course it’s not going to be as good as an OLED for obvious reasons.
This is less than half the price of the 83 inch OLED . I recommend it.
Great review😊 definitely a good TV for the average consumer. They should be thrilled to have a TV like this for a excellent price😊
It's great that you mention firmware as that changes a lot but without the specific version number that sadly has no use for the viewer.
LOL I noticed that too, sorry, I got lazy but NEXT TIME
@@stopthefomo no biggie. Maybe you can pin it as a comment for those interested 👍
I have the 65 U8N.. its an excellent tv but the Dolby Vision is off . Everything else is amazing. I hope they update the Dolby
My only goal is to save someone, anyone from the horrors that come along with owning a Hisense TV. For the full version of my story and many similar stories. Just Google ‘Hisense problems’ or ‘I hate Hisense’. Their TVs are horrible and unreliable. I believe they have the worst reliability rating of all major manufacturers. And the Customer Service is just as bad. So if you have any issues, even if under warranty, good luck getting them to address it. As I write this I’m ‘Hard Reseting’ my TV probably for the 12th or more time. That’s back to factory settings. It will not fix any issues, for more than a minute. So please take my / our advice and just don’t purchase a Hisense TV. No matter how good it looks or how cheap it is.
Do u have the A6 or A5 series?
@@Yoga_Tv_buying 75U6H. They eventually sent someone out. They replaced the main board and that seemed to fix the issues. I still don’t plan to buy another Hisense.
@@Yoga_Tv_buying 75U6H, the motherboard is being replaced for the 2nd time in 2 months.
Any chance you could share your recommended setting for this tv in detail? I just got the 75 inch U8N
How do you like the ads panel?
Great Video and info, can you please provide us with the best picture settings for this tv
I think I may buy a U8N too 75 inch . Great videos FOMO . I love Jennifer’s videos . Can I buy Jenifer’s videos to play on a loop at my home ?
Hey FOMO, when can we look forward to the U7N review
FOMO, do you think the U9N will have brighter specular highlights like the QM8
Honestly, I think the U9N will be more like the Bravia 9 because Hisense is taking Sony's approach to dimming zone control. At best its specular highlights will match the B9 but fall behind the QM8, however, its shadow detail and color volume/luminance should handily beat the U8N. In order to match QM851G specular highlights, U9N will have to deal with excessive brightness which is OK if they have a mode for it aka "Bright HDR Theater" which would be awesome!.
@@stopthefomo Ok, cool! Thanks for your detailed answer 👍
Really like your review format Mr. Fomo and always refer to individual use case. Btw, do you plan on any 98" tv reviews?
I want to know about the 55 inch since Hisense shorted the dimming zones and brightness.
Asking you to look into your "CRYSTAL BALL" for me and recommend whether I should hold till the end of the year for 85" U8N, hoping for best pricing then? OR should I grab it before they are sold out? Don't think I'm gonna wait around for U9 deals in 2025.. I have an itch to scratch; moving up from Hisense 55H9G.. that I was very content with for 4 years
I pulled the trigger 4 days ago 1700ish.. can't wait I was nervous the deal wouldn't be forever... Still itchy tho PS5.. sound bar 😅
Just ordered one 2 days ago, will be here Tues
How is it holding up?
@bailehsmith8380 Quite well great TV for the money.
U8N gets the W over the QM8 especially for PC gaming.
Thank you for the info and demo 👏🏼👍🏼🏴🇬🇧
Gonna wait for a deeper sale and amma get a 65 for my parents. Hope they appreciate the blinding brightness.
Oh dude they can turn it down at night . Like iPhone u turn it down at night take 5 seconds . Once u go to brighter phone (day time especially) u can not go back to dim . Just more clear 😊
I had the 55 u8n and definitely took it back before 30 days. I had black light issues, Blooming and halo, the back light would light up areas of the screen that should be dark . The youtube viewing was awful on dark RUclips videos the dolby vision was bad bad with back lighting it was like a grey haze over the whole screen. Apparently the 55 is different from the 65.. I'd advise against the 55 u8n I ended up with the qm8 and its a way better tv... the u8n was so bad I went to my vizio p Quantum to check the difference watching the same content and the vizio was better than the 55 u8n and that's saying something sorry I'm just sharing my experience. Maybe the 65 is better but the 55 was a bust i even updated the firmware from hisense and the tv was still broken
Any issues with the tcl?
@gangs0846 no it'd been a much better tv experience over all
@@madmat276 crazy.. some say so other so. Hard to identify the better tv
The Dolby vision was so bad on the 85 that I returned it….it made grain go crazy on Batman v Superman and the crow, unwatchable. Also local channels looked worse then my old Samsung ? Nice otherwise, very bright , good motion
In Europe the 65" U8N is around $2000...Not sure why there is such a high price disparity.
CRAZY! I’d get the 77” S90C for that price
@@stopthefomo 77" S90C still 2200 euros in my country, though i would spend that little extra for the OLED easily. Our prices include vat though, something to keep in mind.
I am in Canada . Hisense is not cheap either . We buy it tho (n wait for sale ) , it’s worth it still feel like $3000+ TV .
You get the 77 U8N now for 1495 USD (includes VAT 19%) by Amazon in Germany
I bought it for 850 euros in Croatia.
I keep hearing that the 55 inch version is not as good and not the same as the others. Is this true?
Thanks man upgrading from a 55 samsung thay has a great pucture,I'll still jeep it because it's that good
Hmm. Hoping to get a response by today. I’m debating between the QM8 and the U8N. Currently have a Samsung 75” which went out on me in less than two years. My question is.. Is it worth dropping in size from 75” to 65” to gain better quality picture?
😮😮 no it will look so small kinda like once u get large BED 🛌 going down to smaller , or have larger iPad down to iPad mini .
Yeah the 75” U8N U8K are best !! The 75” has d same screen of that 110” UX ! I have seen the 75” U8K in store it looks like the glossy black vibrant wet paint 🎨. They r so neat :)
Qm851 is good tho, just it will still have 🌈 smear on screen def not sever so I won’t care . But once u see the 75” U8K/U8N in bright store in person . U will understand. What special screen -- absorbs light than reflecting 💡 so when watching Dark content in bright room looks like a Star ⭐️ Trek portal
I want to buy a 55”, which one is good U7N or U8N? Does it matter for 65” fo between the two models?
Do you still recommend the Hisense U8N in 75”?
Absolutely. I have seen last year U8K 75” right under 77” Samsung S95D , Sony A95” in store . U can NOT tell that U8K 75” is LED . All d rest 5 other Panels around it were OLED / QD-OLED ! U8K with 3X Color density of LG G4(rich in color ) cast on brightness ! Dense clean visual !
That’s not even 2024 U8N . I would grab U8K U8N 75” any day :)
Great Review!!! Thank u
Hey Fomo. Which one do you recommend between the 75” TCL QM851G and the 75” Hisense U8N (ADS Pro Panel)?
75" U8N
@@stopthefomoawesome. Thanks! That’s the one I was leaning more towards.
@@stopthefomosince I got your attention. I have one last question. I’m still torn between the U8N and an OLED.
I’m trying to stay under $2,000 and that would more than likely land me with a 65” OLED. Any recommendations on an OLED around this price or go with the bigger U8N?
I was initially set on the 65” S90D. But after all my research started to lean towards the bigger 75” U8N.
@@stopthefomowhy?
Im an oled guy? Now i have a s90d 55" in bedroom, but id like something huge like the u8n because of the price. Is the u8n a big step back from oled or its not an oled but very good or close?
Hisense and TCL need to make a TV in this range that has wide Angle viewing.. its been long enough
@@jeffreyrodriguez9009 it’s out of box extremely bright. Don’t freak out . Just turn down black level , turn down brightness a bit , turn UP -“Color “ (density ) setting(most critical but ppl tend to skip ) , it will look 3D
The 75" version has an ADS Pro IPS panel which should have much better viewing angles than the VA panel across the other sizes. Not OLED level but a marked improvement.
@@ethanwetzel7 I'll keep that in mind when upgrading, pretty happy with u8h, u7k, U9DG currently
Your demo of the witcher on netflix has put me off this TV the snow looks green in HDR and dolby vision.
The. U won’t like LG then . All LG LEDs n WOLEDs r green for decade even on vivid/standard mode . that Hisense Green is becusee in Theater /FMM mode has color filter .u can shed it in settings turn those off .
@@Yoga_Tv_buyingwhere?
Both great tvs, great review
great video
Are people constantly changing settings based on the content they watch? That would be so tedious and frustrating. Or do people find one setting and leave it alone?
I change all the time. Honeslty first time its confusing n like overwhelming. After like 3-4 weeks. U can do it with eyes shut. So fast. 💨 since all the U8 all tweak kinda similar so its like quite easy once u get 1 Hisense, d rest all similar. Kinda like Making pasta. Once u make 1 pasta all the time, u do NOT even measure just dump salt pepper butter etc.
Every show takes like 5 seconds.
NO joke, Once u have one u can NOT go back to “lack of setting” type of things.
Great video Fomo!
This tv is about to be released here in Brazil. I want the 75" for the price. And this video was realeased in time, because I found out yesrerday that the 75" uses ips panel. Is that true? If so, ips panek usually has worst picture comparing to va panel. So is way worst comparing with the u8n va panel?
Dude it’s NOT IPS Panel it’s called 😮 ADS -Pro 🎉🎉🎉
ADS pro has 2X contrast Ratio of ADS!
It’s not IPS it’s not ADS.😊 it’s more premium than VA in my opinion . I have seen it (75” U8K ! Mind blown ) . I am getting 1.
Hey, I'm also from Brazil, and I'm really looking forward to the 75U8N, but the recent discount of the TCL 75C755 at R$7200 in 10x almost made me pull the trigger.
Do you have any idea of when Hisense will launch the 75U8N here?
Also, Rtings said they bought the 75U8N, I am waiting for their review.
@@leogradus nao, mano. Alguns caras dizem q é pra alum momento em agosto. Espero q ai caso nao apareca promocao fortr como a tcl c755, na black frirday aparece. Cara, a tcl c755 75" ja ta 6800/6900 no site magazine luiza é q ela é bem inferior a u8n e a tcl c855. Por tudo q vi a c855 é ate superior a u8n, mas a u8n tbm e top pelo preco. E como a c855 nao vem em 75" aqui no brasil infelizmente, q querem forcar a c755, vou dar preferencia. Mas como brasil e sempre fora da curva, se a u8n nao vier em promocao num preco bom q imagino uns 7/8, a c755 é uma opcao, pra mim. Agora, é esperar.
@@Yoga_Tv_buying thank you. Im hapoy to know that. Here in Brazil hisense will just release the u8n on 75" or bigger. And i can afford the 75" not bigger and i was thinking i was going to take something very inferior.
Went for this 65inch over an LG C3 oled on offer as I have a very bright room during the day, using with an Nvidia shield TV Plex server and an PS5, wasnt dissapointed at all. It isnt far off OLED quality, maybe 10-15%
You are crazy. LG products are durable. Your Hisense will not last long. Get an LG or Samsung QLED
Sony bravia 9 vs u8n? Is the sony wirth the double price?
U9N is coming out from Bestbuy! Expecting to Crush Bravia9.
U9N has…ADS-PRO (2 X contrast ratio of ADS) . It has the MOST Glossy (more glossy than OLED) Wet Black /red/green/ yellow paint type of look . I have seen pics from EU(they call it UX 65” 85”). I would AIM for U9N if i have Bravia9 budget.
Do you have an analog audio setup? Might be a better normal reference than using another tv like the G4 (like using a vinyl record, or raw recorded audio or something)
Will 8k be big in 4 years ?
NO, it will be dead next year and unlikely to be revived any time soon.
When I checked the U8N is $1499 where is it sold for $999.
samsung dropped the ball for their miniled tvs.
I'd like to know how this one compares to last years Sony X90L.
I think the U9N would be the match comparison vs 2024 TCL QM8
Yes n will def surpass if not in Film Maket mode in reviews :):)
Agreed - it SOULD beat the QM851G
@stopthefomo the 2025 qm8 Is what I'm waiting for 6300 nits + 10000 dimz
@@Razzlesnaps good call . If they can use ADS-Pro tho. Once u see 1 u can’t go back to VA. The ADS pro looks like S95C
@Yoga_Tv_buying yes It's already released in China I saw some Chinese review videos on it looks amazing 👏 🤩
No Android TV in eu :(
The S90C 77" seems to be out of stock almost everywhere. Is it out of production?
Im curious about these since they r top tier quality and affordable, but i cannot get over any of these mini led’s being va panels. I just feel like va is whack as hell with weird ghosting, bad viewing angles, and most importantly a shitty, unpleasing white point compared to qd oled and quantum dot IPS. IPS feels more elegant. I just got the Innocn 32” mini led and it’s fantastic. I feel like it’s on the same level as my s95b as far as hdr is concerned.
Well u have not had the Those for of VA panels once u go VA it’s very Hard to go back to IPS.
The ADS-PRO resolve the angle issue tho. 180 degree viewing angle 📐, 2X contrast of ADS , 600hz screen refresh rate . 75” U8N U7N , Then U9N , UX :) 😊
I buy TV stand with wheels 🛞, I tilt my tv :):) 😊
@@Yoga_Tv_buying i wanna see ads-pro and i’m hoping that once the dimming zones start climbing to the tens of thousands, blooming with ips won’t be as much of an issue. I’m sure the contrast for va will still be better at that point. Maybe i should just get every kind of display. Oled is the most elegant, but it most definitely doesn’t provide the same level of punch in bright scenes. So off angle viewing of ads-pro does better with blooming cause this Innocn display is have def struggles with that. What VA would u recommend? I have 55” qd oled, 32” qd oled, and 32” ips mini led.
Why no blooming test?
Guys Hisense is releasing the U9N anytime now its a superior tv to the U8N in picture quality I would wait on that.
I have seen videos n images from Consumer uploads ! They look ❤Amazing ! In China , the ADS-Pro is called 黑耀屏-- black vibrant screen 🎉❤
If you're looking for 65 in U8N, would be the best option. U9N smallest size is 75in.
@@gorilla6931 yeah absolutely 💯 u hit the nail on the head .
I wonder how it compares to the QM851
what compares?
Hello guys, please help me choose a 65-inch TV. LGC4 or Hisense UXKQ. Or maybe this year's U8N? For a sunny room. Thank you for any response.
C4 so dated . I have seen it so many times in store . Blue tinted , also dim out zoom out .
When is 100 inch version releasing?
100" version will be the UX or U76N, i don't believe there will be a large U8N coming
Hey, Fomo. Greetings from Houston. I currently have a Samsung 85' QN90A. I want something bigger and better for a dark control room. I love OLED, but the G4 83' or 98' are too expensive. The Hisense 100' U8K is back to $3,000, and the 98' Sony X90L went down to $5,000. Is it worth the $2,000 difference? I also have a Sony OLED 77' X80J, so I know what Sony brings to the table in regards to processing and upscaling low content, but $2,000 is a lot. What would you recommend for size and price at these sizes ( 98-100). I don't do any gaming. I Just do streaming, OTA, and 4k UHD blu-ray movies. I'd appreciate any input. Thanks@@stopthefomo
@stopthefomo please do the u76n 100"
@@stopthefomo Thanks I will be doing 100 inch U8K videos soon when I come back from vacation. Im debating on coming to the tv shootout too or ces this upcoming year. I would like to have a discussion with all the manufacturers to explain to them that the home theater enthusiasts like myself want 100 inch sets at a reasonable price. For this reason alone I purchased the 100 inch U8K for $2999. I have exclusive content coming soon on it.
@@AlteredVisionTV, what is your YT site name?
I bought a QN90C for 999€ here in Spain in black Friday last year so yeah, you can get better brand deals under 1k than this for sure.
😊Better Where???
contrast : (rtings)
UX(2023) -400000:1
Bravia9 --388000:1
U8N --- 290000:1
X95L----200000:1
Q90D---167000:1
U8K----165000:1
U8H--- 160000:1
Qm8 ---114000:1
Bravia7-- 100000:1
X95K---100000:1
U7N----89000:1
Q90C.--- 83000:1
Q7---- 80000:1
X93L. ---72000:1
Hey just trying to help. Yes QN90C has amazing ADS-PRO panels. 75” Hisnsense 2023 U8K has the Exact ADS-PRO screen provided by same supplier as QN90C. Except Hisense U8KQ model will have better blooming control and significant better sound(with subwoofer n 4 extra speakers). YES. Samsung QN90C is great tv, I have seen it in person, significant better than X90L X93L Bravia7. Just with Hisense its yearly compared to QN95 Level. SO there might be some miss information here that ppl have confirmation bias.U8N is ABSOLUTELY better panel no doubt about it, U8N has Color Volume matching Samsung S95C. It’s Color Density/Volume, n incky black makes the tv looks like QD-OLED. It’s 😮🎉
Pick my 65 inch up on Saturday from BB. I returned last years U8K due to awful grey uniformity. Made sports unwatchable for me. How is the uniformity on yours?
Since you asked, I’m avoiding the U8N for the VRR bug RTINGs mentioned. It’s the same bug the U8K had that Hisense never bothered to address. Also, I’m very leery of Hisense support. Awful experience dealing with them last year. And then there’s the matter of buggy firmware updates lately according to recent forum posts. I’m just scared off of Hisense at this point.
There has only been one firmware update so far (65") and most of us have not had any issues with it.
That's good to hear. Thanks. U8K owners seem to be complaining about a recent update more than U8N owners this time around. Heck, even Sony burned X900H owners more than once with a questionable update. No brand is 100% safe.
no mention of local dimming...
55" Hisense 55U8N 672 VA
65" Hisense 65U8N 1,600 VA
75" Hisense 75U8N 2,000 ADS Pro
85" Hisense 85U8N 1,296 VA
100" Hisense 100U8N 1,620 VA
Thats how many dimming zones dimming zones from Rtings. I would avoid the 55 inch version but above that its incredible.
@@vherostar ADS Pro or VA for gaming?
@@CarsandCats From what I've read the response time of ADS Pro panels are better than VA panels so the motion should be handled better in theory. But given I have neither version of these TVs I can't assure you anything.
@@vherostar And personally I'd avoid the 75" too due to the ADS panel (worse native contrast).
At this stage of the game, it's absolutely pointless to count dimming zones - it's more important to review how well those zones do their job: (1) tone mapping specular highlights (2) black levels (3) blooming/ghosting/halo. The whole point of local dimming is to improve performance of 1, 2, 3.
How many dimming zones does both the 2024 QM8 and U8N have for both 75-inch and 85-inch models?
2000 n 1296
@Yoga_Tv_buying Is that for the QM851G, or the U8N? Because I'm trying to compare dimming zones for both models of those sizes. TCL claims 5000 dimming zones, but I want to know if it is for only the 85-inch+ models, or also the 75-inch.
Edit- U8N black level performance is terrible with constant fluctuating letterbox bars.
You are exactly right My settings too no lifting in the black bars at all awesome TV
@@TonyTundra5.7 Wrong, wrong, wrong - I was very wrong when I made that comment.. The U8N is an absolute turd when it comes to black level consistency. What I discovered is that no matter what you do, no matter what settings you change, the letterbox bars are constantly fluctuating. Sometimes they're inky black, and other times they look like something you'd expect on a $300 LCD. The local dimming algorithm on this TV is utter trash, and I ended up returning mine. I purchased a Samsung QN85D, which has a measly 160 local dimming zones, yet vastly-and I do mean vastly-better black level performance than the U8N. This is because it has far better processing and uses an amazing algorithm. Hisense has always cheaped out on processing, and they simply do not have the horsepower to adequately control all of those local dimming zones. I really wanted to like the U8N, but at the end of the day, you get what you pay for. My Samsung utterly destroys the Hisense in all the things that matter most to me: color production, processing, black level performance, and motion handling. Definitely not as bright though-not even close. Still, for a thousand bucks, the U8N is killer. Do not respond by claiming that your letterbox bars are always inky black. They are not-do not degrade yourself by lying
give me a top 3 best mini led with lowest blomming
How is this tv for gaming? My u8h is very bad at 4k 120hz hdr :(
I rarely recommend these TVs for gaming only because firmware updates change things (good or bad LOL) and it depends on the game you play as well as your needs. It's fine in 4K60 HDR but true 120 VRR is always a crapshoot IMO.
I have my gaming PC connected via hdmi 2.1 to my new 85 inch U8N and game at 120Hz, 10 bit color, full RGB and HDR no problem. I did notice that when the TV is in gaming mode, it lowers the local dimming a bit so the contrast is not as high as watching movies but its really just trying to nitpick... Overall, looks great and I had no bugs with the VRR using my Nvidia RTX 4080.
@@brunan-gi147you would enjoy it more on a Sony LG or Samsung.
I really loved my u8h for 4k120 HDR. Just gotta play with the settings.
@@kbdadriftking that tv is not capable of doing it, when it does it halves the pixels in order to display otherwise its very bad
How do these compare with the Sony X90L which costs about the same and is still being made?
X90L is def more crusty cuz it has 42000:1 contrast , U8N is 290000:1. X95L is 200000:1 .
U8N will look very much QD-Oled . Becusee Its color Volum3/Density match Samsung S95C. X90L color volume is about X95K level , spend 8.5/10 (Rtings) d brighter the tv d Denser Color Volume make it more 3D/clean pop . 🥬 vs 🧩
90l has superior processing chip and color accuracy. dont listen to the yoga bot commenting on everyones post here.
@@aliazimi91 Lets put Apple Mac Pro with M4 chip with screen n blooming low contrast to see how that will upscale. Color accuracy is NOT important. U go outside of house, morning, sunset , evening u will see Grass/wall diff color. Whatever u are being TOLD SET this “this way” n U will see “THIS way” wont happen. Yes it is nice to have standard. But U will NOT watch 100% of your content with creator’s intent because simply eveyr house hold environment is diff, even same show watched diff time of day will be seen diff. Science babe. Told by PHD professor about TV watching. Actually “HOW our eyes see color”.
SONY LEDS have Cool tone. Human biology 🧬 reacts to warm tone. During revolution, sun ☀️, grass, fruits, 🍎 animals., human skin all warm tone. We need to see MORE warm color to survive. A Warm tone spring morning always look MORE CLEAR than Cloudy day cool tone. Lack of Warmth , will cause Image/detail loss in your EYES. The Standard in Movie industry is nice to have, NOT most comfort in TV watching . Pale color or cool tone is never best. Im trying to help ppl like u. Thats sccience stuff taught in school no different what they teach in London Cambridge.
@@aliazimi91 Based on last year's Rtings measurements and reviews by Caleb from Digital Trends, I went with the X90L because I'm NOT willing to give up on color quality for brightness alone, especially for $1,300 for a 65-inch to $2,000 for an 85-inch. For now, the X90L still seems to excel in so many areas of performance at once, especially for its similar price. Only in the event Rtings's measurements suggest the TCL 2024 QM851G has equal pre-calibration color accuracy and PQ EOTF tracking would I EVER consider seeing if anyone would buy my X90L locally and replace it with the 2024 QM8 for that extra brightness. But until those numbers are in, don't rule out the X90L just yet.
I feel so bad because I bought my 1200 QM8 2024 like 2 wekks ago ... now its a 1000
Hey Fomo ! Love the video . Do you have a way for me to send you a photo of my new 75 U8N screen ? I would like your opinion on something weird.
Buying a Hisense is risky. Reports of models failing after a few years or with glitches and other problems. Maybe wait a few years for Hisense to get their QA under control.
That’s perception. Consumers r biased (they train us in Markrting , tier n pricing ). For example a few yr ago Apple so skechy that purposely send Firmware update to speed up kill battery in their flagship IPhone before new phone launch . Ppl paid $1480 n phone battery die fast , phone got slow . How skechy is that !!! 😮 why did ppl just forget about it ? Cuz ppl decided they don’t care , they still see it as “Good product “ . 😮 BUT if ppl have Large dogs , I anyone inform them :” small Yorkshire terrier (yorkie ) has Intellegence of Human 3 yr old child . Ranked smartest in small/ toy breed dog. Becusee they hunt vermins which r already smart/fast , they have to play strategy. Significantly higher EQ/IQ than Siberian Husky n number of large breeds survive in speed n endurance “ 😮 most Ppl have LARGE dogs that think small dogs r stupid or happy 😮will get OFFENDED 😅. Especially ppl own Husky because its GORGEOUS looks , wolf like face n Masculine features . “Yo u know all dogs r intelligent , Husky is average to lower side “ that will make them --- reject the TRuth , n seek ppl tell
Them what they want to hear !
Human r 100% biased , if they feel towards the brand they will shred or bank/pile anything they want to hear , block anything don’t fit their narrative. 😊 what u hear Hisense fills your Narritive , n it creates an opinion which make us belive its truth.
I have 2 U8 , 2.8 3.8 yr in $2500 USD later . Best money spent .
My buddy’s parents have 2 BMW bought brand new , both have issues 😮brand new have to go back to shop. My friends swear will never buy BMW , kept telling me he hates BMWs cuz not good car in quality n road handling . I could NOT register lol at time listening 😮😂😅 but “I WISH I have 1 “
In a couple of years, I would want another one. So I'm good with it. Especially for a third of the price.
@@boom78 reports from where ???? Like others ppl Bad mouthing getting “reports from others bad mouthing “ from “reports from others bad nothing “….. when legit there 10% reports r legit . N the half of rest are known that Bestbuy order Employees calling HIseense bad quality breakdown . N d rest reach confirmation bias n just passing along as if it’s fact.
You will see more bad reports in mid range tvs vs OLEDs due to the amount of people buying mid range tvs , OLED is expensive for the average consumer so theirs less reports , OLEDs fail just as much , just don't see a bunch of bad reviews cause sales are lower as most of the average people are not buying thme
I have a script that runs on all my computers and streaming the blocks all NBA and NFL - ads, games, everything - will this keep the TV from working since they are a major sponsor of the hideous NBA?
I see like last year's U8K the U8N is still dark in Dolby. My U8K in Netflix in nearly unwatchable.
You are officially banned from talking about the Bravia 9 until you spend time with the 85.
Saw the B9 85 and the 77 A95L at Best Buy today and it's a true war.
@@MrUpscaleman Right!
It's a war until the B9 is flanked by the A95L (viewing angles) 🤣
@rkeith7766 except that is meaningless to me because I don't have ultrawide seating.
I spent a part of my hour testing viewing angles and it's HEAVILY overrated. There's no spot in where you would normally watch TV that the view is substantially impaired.
Have you seen one or are you just going off what other people have said?
Is the 55” as good as 65” for the one model U8N?
9:49 look at the 🦋 on her chest it pops more like 3D on the TCL.
Wow nice catch. Indeed it pops out more! While it looks flat on the hisense
@@TheAETHER22 I already had this TCL. I returned I like more my Sony X90L & Samsung S90D
TCL QM851g is over or tied with the Bravia 9, and cost half the price, not in the lesser league of the Hisense
😂
Man should of gotten this tv 2mo ago because $999 would be great but its $1500 and the TCL qm8 is $1300 🤦🏾♂️
The U8N's sound is quite impressive. The TCL sounds like a tin can in comparison. Oh wait. It's not "sibilant". Yeah. Exactly.
Nothing personal but that was WAY TOO MICH TIME spent on tv audio. Lol
Great review buddy! I tried keeping up with your settings changes but it all went a bit too quick for me at times. Lol 🎉
However, the 65” U8N has a VA panel and the 75” has the ads panel I believe. How much different do you think the 75/85” will be compared? 🎉 I have the Q90C and can tell there is a big deference with the Q90D having different panels.
Also, love that you standardized your 65” size reviews, but imo the reason I would even consider the Hisense or tcl is specifically because their 75/85/98” sizes are more affordable. 🎉. I’d prefer to get the best quality 65” if restricted to that size. 🎉
ADS will give you better off angle viewing!
@@stopthefomoYes true but the trade off is worse contrast. I wanna know how major the difference in contrast compare the to the 65 inch is.
@@dat1ytcomment262RTINGs is smart enough this year to review the 75” ADS Pro model separately from the VA model. That review will release in a month or so. Stay tuned.
Hisense : Teacher, Samsung sent his cheating tone curve to TCL.
TCL : Snitch.
I’m not a fan of filmmaker mode and could care less about a reference monitor. Nice video though
Can’t even look a led the same after the Bravia 9
oh poor baby
I don't trust the components inside Hisense or TCL, they are cheaper for a reason, if you change TV's every few years it doesn't really matter but I'd rather buy a high end model and keep it for at least 5 years.
@@Mike-jm5wt says 1 months old account with no face . Let’s see what is called spineless act .
@@Yoga_Tv_buyingwhy would you say this? He has a valid question and you decided to throw your shit at him without being to answer like an adult
@@thesecondcoming4425 There is something in English called “ We are How we Speak.” 🗣️ What do u describe your self with yr last comment ??
NO comment lol. 😝 i am sure u think U surely Sound like Adult lol.
I agree I like the affordability factor but I don't want issues or have to trash it in 3-5 years either.
@@shanew7361
Here buddy .
contrast : (Rtings )
UX-- 98” 110” launch 🚀 end year
U9N- 75” 85” coming out . (Euro UX 2024)
UX ---400000:1 (2023 model UX)
Bravia9-380000:1
U8N---290000:1
X95L--200000:1
QN90D- 167000:1
U8k---165000:1
Qm851-161000:1
U8H-- 160000:1
C845--114000:1
Bravia7-100000:1
U7N---89000:1
Q90C-- 83000:1
U6N---80000:1
X93L---72000:1
U8G--- 54000:1 (2021 )
U7k----45300:1
X90L--- 42000:1
Rest of us will got for the U8N U9N UX . U r welcome to skip Hisense or TCL . Not everyone have to like same thing . Stop the trash talking :)
Honestly playing the audio in the video is a waste of time. 90 percent of us are listening through a phone and RUclips audio compression makes it totally pointless
lol good point
Nope.
@@stopthefomo Actually many of us will still listen on our home theatre speakers if there's an audio test section that warrants that. So keep doing what you're doing Fomo!
@@lukey08agreed. I purposely watch these kind of reviews/vids on HT or good headphones 🎉
I had my Bluetooth headphones 🎧 on 🤷♂️
It sucks I would not buy it with your money I returned it after one day
What went wrong?
What size? More info would be helpful.
Just buy cheapest oled and be done with bravia rubbish
Your audio is trash
FOMO is the most bias TV reviewer ever. Always overhyping other brands not related to Sony.
He praises Sony for their accuracy and processing all the time. He's literally using his 3110 Sony reference monitor in this video..
❤ X90L(contrast)- 42000:1 , U8N =290000:1. X95L- 200000:1 .
❤U8N will look very much QD-Oled . Becusee Its Color Volum3/Density match Samsung S95C. d brighter the tv d Denser Color Volume make it more contrast/3D/clean pop . 🥬 vs 🧩