its been 2 years since you did the app review... could you do a new review based on the latest version and technology from apple watch 9 series and iphone 15 to see how this app preform today ?
Dude you are the best! I just found your channel yesterday because I got an apple watch and I wanted to know what app to use! You're very underrated! I hope the RUclips algorithm starts treating you better soon!
These reviews are very well done. Really get a sense of the strengths and weaknesses of these devices / apps. Accurate sleep tracking seems to be a challenge.
Just got an Apple Watch and downloaded both Pillow and Sleep Cycle. The data from both was alarmingly different, so I came here to decipher it all. I 💯 agree that Pillow data was way off. Thank you!
Can you please make a Video in the Future comparing the different Sleeptracking Apps/ Decices, expecally the oura ring, and potentially Ranking them in a Tier list🙏
@@TheQuantifiedScientist I watched all your Apple Watch videos thus far. Seems you’re leaning towards the sleep cycle app for its sleep identifiers. However, it’s validity for its alarm system might be slightly askew. Would you recommend disarming the alarm and allowing yourself to wake up naturally if possible? Thank you very much for your helpful and informative content.
Also if I may ask, or request rather! Please could you share what your current pick for best iPhone compatible product for sleep tracking/heart rate variability is?
Can you do an up to date video about Pillow, using one of the new Apple Watches? I was recently suggested the Pillow app and would love to know if it’s still not as good as other options or there has been some major upgrades
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I tried Pillow, AutoSleep, Sleep Cycle, and Sleep++. None were as accurate or user friendly as my Fitbit Charge sleep tracking . Wish Apple would come out with a full featured native sleep tracking app since the Apple Watch sensors and hardware is top notch.
It has been quite disappointing considering the outlay on an Apple Watch. My wife was really excited to get one and then found this metric which she enjoys checking the following morning was missing and had to be done with 3rd party apps. Maybe one day.
So frustrated with apple these days. It feels like every device I buy is loaded with complex niche features that annoy the crap out of me and are lacking the basic functionality that would enhance my life.
I have noticed the Apple Watch does not track my sleep as accurately as my Fitbit but I wanted to switch to Apple Watch cause I like the idea of having my phone on my wrist
I really like that you suggested "if you liked my video, please give it a thumbs up because it makes it so other people find my videos easier." I've been on RUclips since the beginning, and you're the first person I've seen who broke it down that /that's/ the reason why we should "thumbs up" the video. I've know that's why, but you tied it in with "it makes it so other people find my videos easier [and if you liked it, then maybe they would too]." That was really cool. Very authentic. Thank you for being the first person I've seen to do that. & I never subscribe just because a RUclipsr tells me to. But you won me over, man. How you said it was truly authentic. I didn't feel pressured (which is why I never subscribe). This is the first video on your channel that I've seen. Really proud of you. I liked, subscribed, and left a comment. Go you, man.
Wow! Firstly, you look stunning! Which made my experience watching this video even more enjoyable :) secondly, your work is excellent. Such interesting information and well displayed. Well done, and thank you.
Great video as always, Pls test Huawei - from my personal experience they have the best sleep analysis, it would be interesting to be under your microscope. Keep up the good work!
Great video! These videos you make for Apple Watch apps are great and have really helped to inform me of whether or not some of these major apps are worth paying for or not. This one definitely does not appear to be worth the money.
I've got sleep apnea and I'm not really convinced with smartwatches for sleep analysis. The question is if a device at your wrists will ever be able to actually detect REM-sleep instead of estimating/calculating it. A camera or sleep-mat probably got better results in detecting movement. Also in my comparision a better finger-pulsoxymeter has way better results in spo2 and puls measurment than my smartwatch. There are some watch-like spo2 devices with finger sensors, especially for night-application with nice data exporting features. But of course I do understand that most users will prefer one single device with easy output just for the basics and the future could bring more. There are rumors which say the next Apple Watch can meassure blood sugar throught the skin which I never thought would be possible. Could be a game changer in that aspect. So there might come way more interesting stuff until we got internal nano chip sensors in our blood which will open completly new worlds^^ Nice video as always. Maybe you should mention the version of the apps while you are testing them. Stuff can change with every update obvs.
Agree with the video, I have always had low rem throughout my life but pillow estimates ridiculous quantities every night. Talking 1 hour on other trackers to 4 hours with pillow
Thanks Rob for another great video. At the moment I have the apple watch 6 and the oura ring. I use the oura ring for the sleep tracking and the apple watch as a everyday watch.
This is extremely interesting. My son gave me his Apple watch Series 6 recently primarily for my sleep issues. I agree with you that Pillow is not accurate and many times makes no sense at all. Do you have suggestions what would work the best with an Apple Watch to monitor my very challenging sleep issues?
Yeah, I was just wondering if you have done this same comparison with the Fitbit sleep tracking. I've really been wanting an Apple watch but my Fitbit sleep tracking is something that is very important to me these days. Apples sleep tracking seems to fall very short of the data I've grown accustomed to:) Now you have me wondering just how accurate the Fitbit really tracks my stages of sleep as well as the other data like restless sleep etc...
I went from an older model Fitbit to an Apple Watch, using the Pillow app, but I think the Fitbit sleep tracking is superior. My results are quite different between the devices and correspond with the results discussed in this video - particularly REM stages. I love my Apple Watch but am disappointed in this aspect of it.
You are really good! Maybe you could also do a table in which you compare the watch and the eeg normalizing on the rows, and not on the coloumns: like to say “if the watch says it was a light sleep what are the chances that it actually were light sleep, a deep sleep, rem phase or awake?”
Hello! Really enjoy all your videos! I purchased the Inspire 2 thanks to you!!! Just had a quick question in the fitbit dashboard settings for my device on desktop, I notice that my fitbit is toggled to have sleep sensitivity to normal, was wondering whether you had it on normal or did you select sensitive when performing the studies that you did for your of your inspire 2 video.
Great videos! I subscribed recently! I was wondering, if you would have to choose between pillow, autosleep and sleep cycle for Apple watch 6, which one would you choose?
Hi I just watched a few videos about Apple Watch sleep analysis apps, I wanted to know which is better at sleep analysis: Apple Watch series 6 or Fitbit?
I am trying to figure out which Apple app would be the best one to get for sleep accuracy? I couldn’t find all the apps reviewed for the Apple Watch just 2 of them.
Hi very educated reviews... Thanks for better understanding of apps and devices for layman like me. Could you please suggest me one app that you find nearest to accuracy for sleepcycles for apple series 6.
I use apple watch with pillow app. I turn off automatic sleep detection. When I go to sleep I manually start it; when I wake up I manually stop it. Besides making the start sleep and end sleep precisely accurate would that have any affect on the accuracy of of the sleep cycles and detection of time of deep sleep etc.?
Hi Brian, thank you for using Pillow. I am Jing, and I am one of the Pillow team member. We are conducting a new round of user interviews, I want to invite you to the interview to know more about what you like and dislike about the product so that we can improve it. You'll receive a $50 Amazon gift card as a thank you note. Let me know if you are interested:)
This is so informative and helpful, the quality of editing and filming is amazing I’m surprised you haven’t got more subscribers!! Thank you so much for ur help you made it so much easier for me to understand and make good educated choices :))))))
Great review! I too found the pillow app surprisingly and strangely ineffective. You explain why in detail. You’d think Apple would change the algorithms to improve the app!
I can not figure out why pillow app is not turning app on at night. I used to be able to just tap pillow to turn it on. I made sure everything was enabled. I paid for premium. Figured it out kind of my old series 3 is still Connected some how to my Phones Bluetooth so my New watch can’t connect. Cant get “forget this Device”😐
Thank you for these reviews. But in regards to the Apple Watch apps, aren't you overlooking a more fundamental issue: namely that the Apple Watch sensors are simply not good enough to detect a difference between REM sleep and AWAKE stages? In that case, it doesn't matter what app one uses on the watch.
I think unless you have a sensor strapped to your head with infrared cameras recording all the time, you will never really know how good your sleep was. I think sleep tracking is so complicated and smart watches just don’t have the technology to accurately record.
So the REM stages are inaccurate, that’s frustrating as I’ve been doing some little experiments relating to dreams in hopes to improve my dream recall, and eventually gain control of my dreams. I had just started using pillow to target specifically REM so I could wake myself up then and try a Wake Initiated Lucid Dream, I hope it’ll at least be accurate enough.
Hello there. I like the vid. At 12:40, which app did you mention is better than Pillow? Auto Sleep? That is paid app only right? Oh in that vid, sleep cycle is preferred over auto sleep? So is sleep cycle the best one then? Thanks.
Will it be possible to build some kind of chart/performance table for sleep tracking, heart rate monitor & step tracking? Like what Top Gear/Grand Tour does with cars. This would really help us consumers know how much to rely on our data in comparison with other products.
Fantastic channel well done !! I have an Apple 6 watch and an Oura Ring. Last night the Auto Sleep App showed 1hr 59mins of Deep Sleep and my Oura Ring 13min. This is a huge discrepancy. Love to hear your thoughts on the best App to use on the watch and does the Oura Ring under estimate Deep Sleep?
Oh wow, thanks David! I think the Oura Ring is slightly better than Autosleep, though not by much. I did a video on the Oura Ring if you want to check that out: ruclips.net/video/atWcp6FmnbE/видео.html (excuse the quality, it was one of my earlier videos)
Not really „objective“ but I liked the UI/experience of pillow most. And on my phone the results were (subjectively) representing my sleep experience. However, sleep cycle was more accurate. But that was a year or two ago and without the Apple Watch. I just wondered whether their algorithm is bad in general, or only the implementation on the watch.
Hi LukeBares, thank you for using Pillow. I am Jing, and I am one of the Pillow team member. We are conducting a new round of user interviews, I want to invite you to the interview to know more about what you like and dislike about the product so that we can improve it. You'll receive a $50 Amazon gift card as a thank you note. Let me know if you are interested:)
I dont know why apps such as Pillow dont just use the Apple watch Sleep App data as it has tested very accurate. It seems they are wsting time and money reinventing the wheel
Is there a feature to say wake you up after you have sleep enough? say for someone like a musician that is flexible to wake up whenever they’re like but can be in bed late & could sleep too much if not woke ?
I like rigorous scientific methods to assess sport devices, this was one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel, I however find your methodology to be shallow and lacking accuracy, I would have thought many recordings would have been necessary in order to assess accuracy, room temperature, vigorous physical exercise, alcohol and drug intake, many variables can influence blood flow which is what the watch measures or should I say attempt to measure in the case of this so called fitness watch from Apple.
Hy Wyoming, thanks for the feedback. So I think more tests are always better, but if I did that I could only test one or two devices. From experience I think I test enough nights to the point where I feel that new nights do not add so much more information. Its a balance, and I am happy with where it is now. Have a great day 😊
Great review! This is really outstanding work! Just a minor note: Pillow's documentation claims that their app needs a lot of data before it can give "accurate" sleep stats. So, if they're to be trusted, I'd only do a review after gathering at least a couple weeks of data.
sadly this isn't something he's taken into account, even in his more recent videos. god knows why, he spent a lot of time testing for it to all be ruined or at least not nearly trustworthy enough for people like me who are trying to decide what sleep app to get. Guess I'll go with the best priced option, Autosleep. Wish he went the extra mile to stabilize testing conditions, it's a big shame that all this work can't be trusted to make an informed decision bc nobody else has done testing like this.
@@avgvstvs96 The reviewer said that Sleep Cycle is probably the best of the Apple Watch apps. The results were pretty outstanding, although I still want to know more about the Pillow app's longterm accuracy.
@@kannony5393 how good if Sleep Tracker in Apple Watch would not require us to manually key-in the sleep and wake up time. That's a huge disadvantage for me
Could do you an update for these 3 apps for 2023?
Seems like there are a lot of changes over the last couple of years.
This is an ancient video. You should have a new one. I do not trust a review of an app from three years ago.
its been 2 years since you did the app review...
could you do a new review based on the latest version and technology from apple watch 9 series and iphone 15 to see how this app preform today ?
Dude you are the best! I just found your channel yesterday because I got an apple watch and I wanted to know what app to use! You're very underrated! I hope the RUclips algorithm starts treating you better soon!
Thanks so much for the compliments!
SAME💪🏽 he was crazy helpful for me too.
What apple app do you recommend since pillow don’t seem that great?
@@leetnessgaming9751 ive been using sleep cycle its the best of the third party apps
@@tyronedeshauer8284 is it free?
These reviews are very well done. Really get a sense of the strengths and weaknesses of these devices / apps. Accurate sleep tracking seems to be a challenge.
Thanks for the compliment Rich😊
Thank you! Waiting for SleepWatch review!
Thanks Yakov😊
Just got an Apple Watch and downloaded both Pillow and Sleep Cycle. The data from both was alarmingly different, so I came here to decipher it all. I 💯 agree that Pillow data was way off. Thank you!
But which one is better in your opinion? Pillow or SleepCycle?
What is the best Apple Watch app to wake up during light sleep stage ?
Can you please make a Video in the Future comparing the different Sleeptracking Apps/ Decices, expecally the oura ring, and potentially Ranking them in a Tier list🙏
Hi Drakon! That idea is indeed something i will make a reality 👍😊. Thanks!
Yes pls! Would love that!
@@TheQuantifiedScientist I watched all your Apple Watch videos thus far. Seems you’re leaning towards the sleep cycle app for its sleep identifiers. However, it’s validity for its alarm system might be slightly askew. Would you recommend disarming the alarm and allowing yourself to wake up naturally if possible? Thank you very much for your helpful and informative content.
Also if I may ask, or request rather! Please could you share what your current pick for best iPhone compatible product for sleep tracking/heart rate variability is?
Can you do an up to date video about Pillow, using one of the new Apple Watches? I was recently suggested the Pillow app and would love to know if it’s still not as good as other options or there has been some major upgrades
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I tried Pillow, AutoSleep, Sleep Cycle, and Sleep++. None were as accurate or user friendly as my Fitbit Charge sleep tracking . Wish Apple would come out with a full featured native sleep tracking app since the Apple Watch sensors and hardware is top notch.
It has been quite disappointing considering the outlay on an Apple Watch. My wife was really excited to get one and then found this metric which she enjoys checking the following morning was missing and had to be done with 3rd party apps. Maybe one day.
So frustrated with apple these days. It feels like every device I buy is loaded with complex niche features that annoy the crap out of me and are lacking the basic functionality that would enhance my life.
I have noticed the Apple Watch does not track my sleep as accurately as my Fitbit but I wanted to switch to Apple Watch cause I like the idea of having my phone on my wrist
Ofc a watch isn't going to 100 percent accurately tell you how much you slept it's going to off my a couple minutes or so
I really like that you suggested "if you liked my video, please give it a thumbs up because it makes it so other people find my videos easier." I've been on RUclips since the beginning, and you're the first person I've seen who broke it down that /that's/ the reason why we should "thumbs up" the video. I've know that's why, but you tied it in with "it makes it so other people find my videos easier [and if you liked it, then maybe they would too]." That was really cool. Very authentic. Thank you for being the first person I've seen to do that. & I never subscribe just because a RUclipsr tells me to. But you won me over, man. How you said it was truly authentic. I didn't feel pressured (which is why I never subscribe). This is the first video on your channel that I've seen. Really proud of you. I liked, subscribed, and left a comment. Go you, man.
Wow! Firstly, you look stunning! Which made my experience watching this video even more enjoyable :) secondly, your work is excellent. Such interesting information and well displayed. Well done, and thank you.
When is the app comparison video coming out? I just purchased an annual subscription to Pillow and now regret it 😭 What should I get instead?
so of all the applewatch sleep tracking apps which do you prefer the most?
bump on this question!
12:40
I'm waiting for the review of huawei watch fit and trusleep 2.0. Also, this review was fantastic. Keep up the good word
Thank you for review rob.
I just try this app with my watch and this app told me i woke up all night lmao
Thanks for commenting! Your experience seems to be less than optimal too😉
BIG thank you for doing this. I’ve always wondered how trustworthy these sleep tracking apps really are.
Very nice. I was looking forward to this one. I wanted to like this app but had many doubts and you confirmed them. Thanks for your great review!
My pleasure 😊
Beautiful analysis and presentation. Awesome
please do an update version of this app, along with SleepWatch, ShutEye, etc...!
Looking forward to your apple sleep app comparisons!
Coming in a few weeks!
Did you ever release this? I can’t seem to find it
Great video, well explained, easy to understand 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Commenting for the algorithm, thanks!
Thanks Lewis 😊🙏
Great video as always,
Pls test Huawei - from my personal experience they have the best sleep analysis, it would be interesting to be under your microscope.
Keep up the good work!
Noted Florin! I am testing some different Huawei Watches at the moment! ☺️
Great video! These videos you make for Apple Watch apps are great and have really helped to inform me of whether or not some of these major apps are worth paying for or not. This one definitely does not appear to be worth the money.
I've got sleep apnea and I'm not really convinced with smartwatches for sleep analysis. The question is if a device at your wrists will ever be able to actually detect REM-sleep instead of estimating/calculating it. A camera or sleep-mat probably got better results in detecting movement. Also in my comparision a better finger-pulsoxymeter has way better results in spo2 and puls measurment than my smartwatch. There are some watch-like spo2 devices with finger sensors, especially for night-application with nice data exporting features.
But of course I do understand that most users will prefer one single device with easy output just for the basics and the future could bring more. There are rumors which say the next Apple Watch can meassure blood sugar throught the skin which I never thought would be possible. Could be a game changer in that aspect. So there might come way more interesting stuff until we got internal nano chip sensors in our blood which will open completly new worlds^^
Nice video as always. Maybe you should mention the version of the apps while you are testing them. Stuff can change with every update obvs.
Thanks for the input! The version numbers is a good idea😄
Thanks so much for such a thorough analysis. This was awesome!
Thanks as always rob!
Thanks so much 😊
Thank you for your excellent research! I am now a subscriber.
Agree with the video, I have always had low rem throughout my life but pillow estimates ridiculous quantities every night. Talking 1 hour on other trackers to 4 hours with pillow
Please suggeat practical tips for sound sleep. Please make some videos and PDFs. You are a genius scientist.
Thanks Rob for another great video. At the moment I have the apple watch 6 and the oura ring. I use the oura ring for the sleep tracking and the apple watch as a everyday watch.
Big thanks!
Hey do measure co2 concentration in your bedroom to correlate with your sleep? i would love to see that
Hi! I do measure a form of CO2 levels in my bedroom indeed. I might have a look at that data at some point, good idea👍
Bedankt weer Rob, vanuit een zonnig Oman 👍🏻
What do the circle rings mean! White and purple. I was hoping to learn how to use and interpret the app on the iPhone. Thanks
This is extremely interesting. My son gave me his Apple watch Series 6 recently primarily for my sleep issues. I agree with you that Pillow is not accurate and many times makes no sense at all. Do you have suggestions what would work the best with an Apple Watch to monitor my very challenging sleep issues?
So helpful. Thank you
Very helpful thank you…
Bear review of the Pillow app on the Apple Watch. Thank you.
Yeah, I was just wondering if you have done this same comparison with the Fitbit sleep tracking. I've really been wanting an Apple watch but my Fitbit sleep tracking is something that is very important to me these days. Apples sleep tracking seems to fall very short of the data I've grown accustomed to:) Now you have me wondering just how accurate the Fitbit really tracks my stages of sleep as well as the other data like restless sleep etc...
I went from an older model Fitbit to an Apple Watch, using the Pillow app, but I think the Fitbit sleep tracking is superior. My results are quite different between the devices and correspond with the results discussed in this video - particularly REM stages. I love my Apple Watch but am disappointed in this aspect of it.
You are really good!
Maybe you could also do a table in which you compare the watch and the eeg normalizing on the rows, and not on the coloumns: like to say “if the watch says it was a light sleep what are the chances that it actually were light sleep, a deep sleep, rem phase or awake?”
Great job
I wonder if blaming the App is valid could be the Detection in the watch could be major part of inaccuracy.
Great content videos! I have sleep apnea i wanted to track my sleep. Which Apple Watch sleep tracker app do you think is the best?
Hello! Really enjoy all your videos! I purchased the Inspire 2 thanks to you!!! Just had a quick question in the fitbit dashboard settings for my device on desktop, I notice that my fitbit is toggled to have sleep sensitivity to normal, was wondering whether you had it on normal or did you select sensitive when performing the studies that you did for your of your inspire 2 video.
which apple watch to buy works great with the app ?
Great videos! I subscribed recently! I was wondering, if you would have to choose between pillow, autosleep and sleep cycle for Apple watch 6, which one would you choose?
Bedankt Willem! I would go for sleep cycle. The only downside is that you have to activate it each night. Cheers!
@@TheQuantifiedScientist thank you! I really appreciate your reaction. I am glad with the content on your channel! Keep it up 👏🏻
Thank you 🙏
You’re welcome 😊
Hi I just watched a few videos about Apple Watch sleep analysis apps, I wanted to know which is better at sleep analysis: Apple Watch series 6 or Fitbit?
I am trying to figure out which Apple app would be the best one to get for sleep accuracy? I couldn’t find all the apps reviewed for the Apple Watch just 2 of them.
Hi very educated reviews... Thanks for better understanding of apps and devices for layman like me. Could you please suggest me one app that you find nearest to accuracy for sleepcycles for apple series 6.
Nice review. So far, do you like Sleep Cycle the best? Or, is that in an upcoming video?
Friend can you review the metrics of the pillow app last version
Please test out more sleep apps!
I use apple watch with pillow app. I turn off automatic sleep detection. When I go to sleep I manually start it; when I wake up I manually stop it. Besides making the start sleep and end sleep precisely accurate would that have any affect on the accuracy of of the sleep cycles and detection of time of deep sleep etc.?
Whelp, so much for this app. I’ve been using this app for a year. 🙄
Hi Brian, thank you for using Pillow. I am Jing, and I am one of the Pillow team member. We are conducting a new round of user interviews, I want to invite you to the interview to know more about what you like and dislike about the product so that we can improve it. You'll receive a $50 Amazon gift card as a thank you note. Let me know if you are interested:)
This is so informative and helpful, the quality of editing and filming is amazing I’m surprised you haven’t got more subscribers!! Thank you so much for ur help you made it so much easier for me to understand and make good educated choices :))))))
Thank you so much Clara!! Happy you enjoyed it 😊
great review btw, subscribing :)
Great review! I too found the pillow app surprisingly and strangely ineffective. You explain why in detail. You’d think Apple would change the algorithms to improve the app!
Apple didn’t make the app. They do not control the algorithms.
I can not figure out why pillow app is not turning app on at night. I used to be able to just tap pillow to turn it on. I made sure everything was enabled. I paid for premium.
Figured it out kind of my old series 3 is still
Connected some how to my
Phones Bluetooth so my
New watch can’t connect. Cant get “forget this Device”😐
Didn’t someone at apple say they didn’t include cycle tracking in their sleep app because there’s no accurate way to do that?
I'm curious how tight you wear the apple watch. Apparently it needs to be quite tight to be accurate
So which one you think is ultimately the best for an apple watch? I think that summary video you mention has never aired :)
What do you recommend for sleep and hrv tracking ?
Hey Rob, there’s been a new app called „rise sleep“. Have you tried it? Would love to hear your thoughts on it 🙏
Thank you for these reviews. But in regards to the Apple Watch apps, aren't you overlooking a more fundamental issue: namely that the Apple Watch sensors are simply not good enough to detect a difference between REM sleep and AWAKE stages? In that case, it doesn't matter what app one uses on the watch.
I think unless you have a sensor strapped to your head with infrared cameras recording all the time, you will never really know how good your sleep was. I think sleep tracking is so complicated and smart watches just don’t have the technology to accurately record.
So what’s the best sleep app for Apple Watch ? Thanks
Great content! I would love to see if you could test Apple Watch 6 and it’s ability to track calories burned.
Amazing as always, do you have any plans on Making a Video on the Amazon Halo?
Thanks! That's the plan (once it is available in Europe)!
Will you be evaluating the accuracy of V02 Max and wrist based pulse ox available on some watches like my Garmin Fenix 5x?
So the REM stages are inaccurate, that’s frustrating as I’ve been doing some little experiments relating to dreams in hopes to improve my dream recall, and eventually gain control of my dreams. I had just started using pillow to target specifically REM so I could wake myself up then and try a Wake Initiated Lucid Dream, I hope it’ll at least be accurate enough.
I can’t for the life of my get it to record audio. I’ve enabled all setting??
Does anyone know where the automatic sleep tracking button is? I can’t find it in settings
theres no auto
Hello there. I like the vid. At 12:40, which app did you mention is better than Pillow? Auto Sleep? That is paid app only right?
Oh in that vid, sleep cycle is preferred over auto sleep? So is sleep cycle the best one then? Thanks.
For now I prefer Sleep Cycle indeed. I find it the most informative😊
Will it be possible to build some kind of chart/performance table for sleep tracking, heart rate monitor & step tracking?
Like what Top Gear/Grand Tour does with cars. This would really help us consumers know how much to rely on our data in comparison with other products.
Hi Samson! yes, I am planning to do that indeed 😊. Stay tuned, it will take a few weeks
@@TheQuantifiedScientist Lovely, can't wait 🕺
Fantastic channel well done !! I have an Apple 6 watch and an Oura Ring. Last night the Auto Sleep App showed 1hr 59mins of Deep Sleep and my Oura Ring 13min. This is a huge discrepancy. Love to hear your thoughts on the best App to use on the watch and does the Oura Ring under estimate Deep Sleep?
Oh wow, thanks David! I think the Oura Ring is slightly better than Autosleep, though not by much. I did a video on the Oura Ring if you want to check that out: ruclips.net/video/atWcp6FmnbE/видео.html (excuse the quality, it was one of my earlier videos)
So you get more results from Pillow if you have premium? Ya think?
Hi, is the comparison video already out ?
I am having the same issues with pillow app.
Can you make a review on the app sleep score?
What are the negatives of an Fitbit?
12:02 You said you would do a follow up to compare the apps. Did you? Can‘t find it :D
You talked about non-Apple devices that have a far better sleep tracking. Do you have any specific in mind?
Hi Sam, the fitbit charge series performed pretty well and the polar vantage m showed promise in a recent video. Have a great day!
@@TheQuantifiedScientist Thank you! Wish you a great day too.
Please review the accuracy of honor watch es
Nice vid, can u do one on Samsung watch?
Would love to see a comparison with the pillow app used on the phone, not the watch. I had quite a good experience with it on my phone.
Thanks for the suggestion Luke!
Not really „objective“ but I liked the UI/experience of pillow most. And on my phone the results were (subjectively) representing my sleep experience. However, sleep cycle was more accurate.
But that was a year or two ago and without the Apple Watch. I just wondered whether their algorithm is bad in general, or only the implementation on the watch.
Hi LukeBares, thank you for using Pillow. I am Jing, and I am one of the Pillow team member. We are conducting a new round of user interviews, I want to invite you to the interview to know more about what you like and dislike about the product so that we can improve it. You'll receive a $50 Amazon gift card as a thank you note. Let me know if you are interested:)
I dont know why apps such as Pillow dont just use the Apple watch Sleep App data as it has tested very accurate. It seems they are wsting time and money reinventing the wheel
I believe that now you are more used to sleeping with Zmax than without it!
the app always marks my deep sleep as high and my REM as low
why didnt u put the phone under the mattress to see the accuracy of the app ? :((( not everyone has apple watch my friend :/
Is there a feature to say wake you up after you have sleep enough? say for someone like a musician that is flexible to wake up whenever they’re like but can be in bed late & could sleep too much if not woke ?
Can u make galaxy fit2 video plz
I like rigorous scientific methods to assess sport devices, this was one of the reasons I subscribed to your channel, I however find your methodology to be shallow and lacking accuracy, I would have thought many recordings would have been necessary in order to assess accuracy, room temperature, vigorous physical exercise, alcohol and drug intake, many variables can influence blood flow which is what the watch measures or should I say attempt to measure in the case of this so called fitness watch from Apple.
Hy Wyoming, thanks for the feedback. So I think more tests are always better, but if I did that I could only test one or two devices. From experience I think I test enough nights to the point where I feel that new nights do not add so much more information. Its a balance, and I am happy with where it is now. Have a great day 😊
Sleep cycle or pillow?
Sooo, so far sleep cycle wins. Good to know ! Thanks for the great videos !
Glad you like them!😄
you just got a subscription and i plan to delete pillow
Can you please make comparison of sleep cycle and autosleep? Autosleep is also using the oxi sensor of the apple watch…
Great review! This is really outstanding work!
Just a minor note: Pillow's documentation claims that their app needs a lot of data before it can give "accurate" sleep stats. So, if they're to be trusted, I'd only do a review after gathering at least a couple weeks of data.
sadly this isn't something he's taken into account, even in his more recent videos. god knows why, he spent a lot of time testing for it to all be ruined or at least not nearly trustworthy enough for people like me who are trying to decide what sleep app to get. Guess I'll go with the best priced option, Autosleep. Wish he went the extra mile to stabilize testing conditions, it's a big shame that all this work can't be trusted to make an informed decision bc nobody else has done testing like this.
@@avgvstvs96 The reviewer said that Sleep Cycle is probably the best of the Apple Watch apps. The results were pretty outstanding, although I still want to know more about the Pillow app's longterm accuracy.
@@kannony5393 how good if Sleep Tracker in Apple Watch would not require us to manually key-in the sleep and wake up time. That's a huge disadvantage for me
@@mohamedfauzibinmohamedjoha2328 the latest firmware on the Apple Watch 4 and newer will do sleep tracking on par with the best fitness watches.
@@kannony5393 you mean the watch will know when you are sleeping without needing to set the sleep schedule up?