Exposing How Joel Osteen Misuses the Bible (& You Might too!)
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Today I expose Joel Osteen's Hermeneutic: how he misuses scripture and how many of us tend to do the same thing, if we are not careful. Ultimately I share all of this, not to scare anyone but rather as a great opportunity to evaluate our own hermeneutic!
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I love you Sister In Christ, thank you so much for this video, you so speak directly to me . All this battles. Must have more faith &&& i really thank you so much. Hugs & blessings
As someone who used to attend his church for many years as a brand new Christian I am beyond grateful that the Lord pulled me away from Houston so I could actually get away from that place. I felt so free and got so far in my faith once I left. They are feel good sermons and never ever did I leave feeling conviction for anything I'd been doing until I left the church all together and started working on my relationship with the lord and stopped just asking for my life to change because I asked hard enough! I pray for those that are still attending there.
WOW! That's amazing. Praise the Lord that you are now out!
Out of curiosity, did you ever hear critiques of Joel? Or were you aware of the criticism he and his church gets? I always have wondered that!
@@HowtoFaithALife honestly I did I actually had family warning me to leave but I'd always fight against them because in the moment everyone there was friendly and made me feel welcome and the atmosphere all around felt good. But now looking back I honestly always felt like I wasn't enough. And I needed to try harder to be more to have what I thought everyone else had because their "faith" was stronger than mine. It's toxic and you can't even tell until you leave and break away.
@@nicolehowell6221 question! Do you feel like you AND others attending at the time were truly saved and had given your life to Christ in repentance?
I ask because there are many people who claim to believe that everyone who listens to Joel is not saved nor could be saved by his message.
@@BEABEREAN10 personally I believe myself and many other were saved even then, because regardless of what Joel was preaching I was reading my Bible at home and I was raised in church and being taught right from wrong. Joel was just "easy" if that makes sense. I didn't have to feel bad when I left I was always on a high note. But even then I'd feel convicted on my own of things even if he told us otherwise. I feel like the lord was guiding me through even that and I believe he did so because I was already aware of the truth just denying it and getting to take the easy way out by going there.
@@nicolehowell6221 I appreciate you're reply! I can definitely understand this and it's actually encouraging. He's teaching a milky gospel that will definitely save and draw people to Christ, but it won't grow you up.
So while I would never encourage anyone to go to him as a teacher, I think he is doing a valid work in evangelizing people to Jesus. I just find it unfortunate that he doesn't come out and tell people that they should seek out deeper truth through other Bible teachers.
Reading the bible in context is key! Great video sis
It really is!
Yesss that's true
I get motivational speaker and conference vibes from him. It does not feel like spending time with the lord to me personally! 🙏🏻
At a church I attended many years ago, there was a conversation about bringing in more people. Person 1 said we needed to preach the gospel because the deep teaching was over the heads of unbelievers or new believers. Person 2 said the people in the pews needed "meat" rather than "milk". I walked away feeling discouraged, because I thought there was something wrong with me -- saved for years and yet I still WANTED to hear about Christ's work on the cross. I eventually left that church, and one of the things I love about my present church is that the multiple pastors are all very skilled at providing deep teaching and then ALWAYS bringing back to the cross. For new believers, sure. But for long-time Christians too. I'm still a sinner, and every day I need Jesus! Thanks, Faith!
It is a beautiful thing to be reminded of our salvation but after salvation we need edification, we need preaching that will get us right with God, we need to be taught and encouraged to go and preach the gospel ourselves, most churches are becoming social clubs, there’s no soul winning, there’s no hard preaching on sin, there are no clear standards being taught, churches nowadays are anemic, weak because all they preach is the gospel and sadly many times is not even a clear gospel presentation but rather a turn from your sins to be saved kind of message.
My husband and I just got out of a church that was big on the prosperity gospel. My husband and I are going through infertility and we were told we just didn’t pray enough and we don’t have enough faith……however it’s not in my hands it’s ultimately all in Gods hands.
To me that is spiritual and emotional abuse. I’m really sorry that they added to your pain of infertility. So many women in the Bible experienced infertility ….
im glad you got out. I go to a non denominational church, but we are born again believers. All denominations are man made to obey rules that God did not make for us.
We were told the same thing. Went through 4 miscarriages and 3 failed IVFS. Told to give up having a baby by doctors and less than 10% chance of ever having a child. After we became content in not having a baby. At least myself, my spouse ended up getting pregnant naturally and my son was born on my birthday. Totally a God thing.
thank you so much for sharing this Faith! It is so easy to simply "expose" Joel Osteen or whomever, but it is another to show that we can be no different. ❤
This was helpful! While I am grateful for ministries who call our false teachers and elaborate on WHY they are false (and not cage bashing), this was just as helpful to me. I'm walking away from this video feeling encouraged. You simply saying that it must point back to the cross is a great nugget.
I don’t follow Osteen. He seemed more like a motivational speaker than a Bible teaching pastor. I love this video. You’re honest without being negative. Thank you for the information you’re sharing!
I love how you focus on guarding against these pitfalls ourselves. We should all ask ourselves if our actions, reactions and worship is self-serving or God-serving.
Thank you for this, it really is easy to slip into the 'me mode' and miss a lot of the beauty of God's word and reminders are ALWAYS needed. When you said 'even if He doesn't' I remembered Mercy Me's song Even If You Don't, such a beautiful song.
I just remember during Katrina, he would now allow his church to be used for shelter. He also reminds me that "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven".
Great explanation and breakdown of what heresy looks like 🙌🏻
Thanks, Brylan!
Thank you! I find myself wondering what more I need to do. You make so much sense. It's all about God at all time! 🙏🙏
This video was fantastic! Really convicting! I've been having issues with contentment/afraid of not getting the desires of my heart so this helped me.
So true! He started his last sermon about how our most important relationship is with ourselves. What? No, our most important relationship is with God. So sad that people listen to that and feel like that's enough. They just need to talk to God more and strengthen that relationship. Bring everything to God in prayer! We can't try to fix everything ourselves, and if we grow a stronger relationship with ourselves above our relationship with God, then we stop believing that God can help us because we try to take on everything by ourselves without the help of God. That would feel impossible! Maybe because it is!
Love the Lord thy God with all your heart & thy neighbor as thyself .
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Faith, you give me so much food for thought about my faith. Thanks for making your videos!
Praise the Lord!
This is so lovely, Faith! I love that you turn it away from the speck in Joel's eyes and the log in our own! Very lovely. It isn't denying the speck, but absolutely pointing out our own part in the... delivery, I guess, of our own character. Fantastic. Absolutely ultimately is about what the Lord wants not what we want!
I am so glad you are teaching and talking about this! I always felt he was not teaching the word as he should have been. I am so over this name it, claim it, grab it and blab it mess! We have the Word of God. If we really study it and ask for him to lead us and guide us, he will reveal truth to us. Sure, God wants to give us good gifts, but our character is more important than our comfort. We don't need the cheerleaders in the pulpit, we need pastors and teachers who seek God and his will, and who will give us the full strength truth (as my Mama used to say), not a watered down list of things to make us feel good, try harder or do more. We need conviction of our sins and yes, at times, God will give us a feel good word of encouragement to help us along our journey. I love that you teach truth! Sending you love and hugs. ❤️
I recently began listening to Joel Osteen for motivation, and that is exactly what it provided me when I needed a swift kick. I can't attest to his prosperity gospel because I haven't heard him speak on it, but he is motivational. I don't look for more because I attend a church where my pastor digs deeply into God's word. I'll pray for Joel Osteen - God has a purpose for us all.
Hi Faith!
I absolutely love how you put the main points and bible verses on the screen in orange and I love how you made “the blood of Jesus Christ” in red! ❤️
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Thank you so much!! Welcome!
Thank you very much for this reminder. God bless you & your family.
You are welcome!
Yes! Amen! Thank you for sharing this!
What pulled me away from Joel when I was a teen was once I started questioning everything about him and his Teachings even before reading a Bible. I was like " why is he always happy " " why is there like a world behind him instead of a cross " etc etc truly the spirit guided me although I didn't know God in the Bible but I knew him from church only at that time and then later I seen people break down his Teachings and questioning how he teaches similar to what I asked and I was like hmm 🙃 I'm not alone.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for this message. My take away was to remember the Bible is about God not us. I am learning alot from you. You are definately doing Gods work. God Bless you and your family.
The Bible as written for us. It’s a manual for our lives, so we are supposed to go to the Bible to see what God has for us and answers to our questions.
Thank you for making a short video about this.
My husband use to like watching joel. But we realized very fast that he preaches from his own books with minimal, if any scripture. I dont think he is a bad person, on a worldly level, but i feel like he is, and should be, classified as a motivational speaker not a preacher. I think many people like him because he is a motivational speaker. A sermon based on the Bible scriptures don’t always leave you feeling uplifted…sometimes they leave you feeling convicted or make you feel a push or pull to try and move us out of our comfort zone. I dont think Joel is bad just not a true teacher/preacher of the Word of God because he is to stuck on promoting his book through his “sermons”
Yessss- there’s a big difference between a pastor and motivational speaker!
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Mind opening! Thank you so much Faith
You nailed young lady. Thanks for the info.
I recently learned about the healing topic. I used to think a lack of faith is what prevents people from being healed. Mostly because Jesus told the woman "it is your faith that has healed you." I just have to remember that we are human, we all will grow old and die so we're going to suffer from things that wont be healed until God gives us our new bodies.
eye opening for me thank you❤
Thank you Faith for pointing us to the cross always. 🙌🙌🙌♥️
Teresa, thank you for all your support. You always are so kind!
Great job explaining!!
This video was sooo enlightening.
This was the best video on Joel Osteen's false teaching. I love love love how you helped me to understand how NOT to fall into that trap myself. And how we are really to understand and use the Bible. It's one thing to point out another's fault, but so much better to try to heed against it ourselves even when it's not intentional
Well said sister ❤
Thank you for a video on Joel Osteen that shows us how easily we can fall into a similar way of thinking.
This video was fantastic!
beautifull explenation and way making people understand what is the purpose to believe in God!!
Faith you have been a blessing to many of us, Thank you for your obedience to our creator. God bless 🌹🌹🌹
Point people to Jesus and not themselves💡moment always😊 bless you!
It's so easy to point out others who are in error. And I think Joel is very in error. But it's so sad because his parents weren't like him at all. His mother was healed of liver cancer believing in God's word and having faith. It wasn't a me me me faith. She actually believed in God to help her and He did. I believe the word is alive and can apply to us now. But we can't just take it out of context. I've heard people say it's okay if we have 6 cars, Abraham had big herds of camels! So we have to apply it correctly!! Thank you for the teaching!!
What about Matthew 17:20, Matthew 8: 5-13, and many other instances where Jesus Himself teaches that our faith can and does have an effect on our situations and surroundings?
Osteen didn't start out wanting to be a preacher. He started out filming his father's sermons. He wanted to be in the film industry. He inherited his church from his father. Blew up the small church into the huge scammer stadium he has now. I'm not religious but enough to be able to spot a fake scammer like that a mile off.
I think as far as the video goes, there is no more to be said. You’ve beautifully explained it clearly and informatively. As a UK Methodist preacher I can see this slipping into the churches over here, much more with the larger churches or Mega churches which mirror themselves on the likes of Joel. Check everything with scripture, and you’ll see wether or not you’ve strayed by smooth talking and the play on emotions. All we can do is lay this before Jesus Christ and pray for those that are being lured away by empty worldly promises. I think your wonderful young lady in exposing these but not in a condemning way, but informative and just laying the truth before the listener.
Amen! My biggest take-away is that I need this as a continual reminder. My flesh and pride want to take over in all I do. It is Christ who has revealed Himself in scripture. My job is to seek Him out there. Proverbs 25:2
Thank you Faith!
May I ask what you think of Joyce Meyers.
I Absolutely agree with you, ive had to tech myself in my studies on how i need to stop putting me me me, and more God , God God ... Faith thank you so much for sharing your faith and taking time out of your own life to make these videos may the Lord bless you 100 fold and your family :)
it's not about us, it's about the Lord and his will.
Amen!
Great video
Thank you for this warning of what not to do.
You are welcome!
Joel is a great encourager.
Thank you for putting into words the issues with this type of preaching! It helped me to be able to nail down what are the problems with his interpretation of Scripture! It’s not about me.. but about Jesus sacrifice for our lives!!
Has Joel ever denied Christ’s sacrifice on the cross
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okay I really needed to see this today I have been feeling so down because of listening to Joel Osteen
Good video 👍
Thanks for watching!
I love your breakdowns and you being real. Thank you and God bless you. I have a question do you or anyone in the thread on other "ministers" get whatsapp links or whatsapp links to donate money to a orphanage etc. Like is that a thing or scammers?? Thank you all. God bless
Listening to this reminded me of the study I am doing about prayer. James 4:3 warns about praying for self-indulgent wants - basically putting ourselves above God's will. 1 John 5:14-15 points out that He will hear us if we ask according to His will. I believe that before we ask for something, we should examine our end motives. Satan, when he was still Lucifer before the fall, put self above God, and since then, he has been working on getting the human race to do the same..... to put self first instead of God first.
I know people need to make money and survive , but there is never any bible studies to learn from someone who is true and trustworthy and solely teaching about God for free for us people who are poor and have no job or income . I am new and trying to find a teacher/group to do a bible study together . My head is spinning with how many online you tube people who charge or do free bible study with one chapter and stop and or charge and aren't reliable and tell you what isn't true. I found Faith's channel a few days ago and have been watching her videos and although I am learning from her and am grateful to have access to her videos I just wish there was a free weekly bible studies especially for us slow learners who are timid and not really understanding what I am reading on my own . I do not belong to a church or have a spiritual family, because I had a bad experience with one before and they tend to be very clicky if you don't fit into their mold or ideals you are pretty much on your own which really stinks and is a huge huge problem for a lot of people and probably why people don't really commit to the Lord , church etc because your basically alone and not learning from them because you don't fit into their standards . Very sad for people who are truly starving for the Lord and truly desperate to be saved and redeemed and well just loved . In short I just wanted to say thank you Faith for the videos you do post and I truly hope God Blesses you and your family because people like me need more patient , loving , compassionate, straight up no judgemental people like you in this world ❤️
study yourself approval unto God, study your word and ask God to teach you his word, pray first for understanding of God's word. praying 🙏
I had the pleasure of seeing 2 documentaries on George Muller. I read a brief book on his life and how he lived by faith through orayer and that God was the ultimate provider. He prayed about everything. It was truly inspiring. It made me realize how I need to depend on, grow in God. I recommend everyone to read the Bible and life of Jesus, but to read about the amazing things God did through George Muller to give God all the glory. Amen
Spot on 👍
Agreed. Solid words. And props for using Popeye’s orange. I kept wondering why I was craving 🍗 🐔. 😂
I have been to churches where I was led to believe I wasn’t doing enough since my prayers weren’t being answered. I didn’t believe enough, I didn’t give enough money, or I didn’t do enough. It’s like they took the focus off of God and put it on the person. I learned more on my own by reading my Bible and listening to people such as yourself and Voddie Bachman than I ever did going to that church. I am now trying to find a church that focuses on God and teaches the gospel.
It's better to go into the word looking at who God is, his qualities and how he works. Then asking him how your situation fits into his plan and then doing the stillness, listening, surrendering, repenting, walking in faith, steps as needed thing. The relational, trust and molding aspect is huge. You can't gloss over it with sunshine and rainbows.
Important question please give-me your opinion. Our assistant pastor asks us to donate money for our pastors wife’s medical tests no insurance 2500.00.
Hi, so what I got was I am on the right track at how Im looking at God and whether my prayers are answered or not is a good way.. Ive been believing if He did not heal me it was I had a purpose maybe to witness to the drs nurses etc that have been placed in my path... just love your teachings... Ill be honest Ive heard of him but never watched him so that part of it didnt do anything for me except show me what to pay attention to when listening to pastors... my pastor doesnt do that ❤
Very rarely is it about the amount of faith. What's more important is who your faith is in..
Do you talk this fast in your bootcamp?!?!!? lol, wow, that was a lot. I gotta slow it down and rewatch this one.
Any feed back on joyce meyer ,m
Oh thank you! It is so easy to read God's word with 'me glasses'.
Amen.
Can you do a video on Prophet Lovy Elias?
I was feeling depressed one time and listening to Joel helped me to be encouraged . However i understand that just eating icing off a cake all the time isn't going to make me healthy.
Please pray 🙏 for me and my husband 1. My husband he is not save and I wish he would I keep praying for his savor and he is going through something that he needs to protect him 2.me I just had surgery of my shoulder and I need pray for healing
I said a special prayer for you...❤️
Amen!
In the bible, did Jesus motivate or convict those he guided towards God?
I agree. He makes the mistake about making every single thing found in scripture about "us" in a most self serving type of way. And that's a death trap 😳. I think its an important thing to remember that it is firstly about God, his power, his strength and his great redeeming love for his people, but to totally strip the humanity and relationship aspect out of it (the bible) saying its not about God's people (of which we obviously are) is also a trap. It is very much about God. But it is also very much about the real relationship of God to his people and redemption OF his people. We are not the central focus obviously, but, the Bible is relational in that it IS about that relationship and how we relate to the God of the Bible. So in that aspect it is about "us" .. relationship between us and our God. While it wasn't written for us specifically it was written to God's people, using God's people and so.. it is in that aspect about us and for us.
We can't remove the humanity aspect out of it saying its only and singly about God. It is both.
I think the trap people get into is trying to remove both. Either the God aspect or the human aspect and calling both righteous. It has been and always will be about the relationship between the two. Man and his God. Why would he even want us.. why would he even choose us, choose relationship with such rebellious, weird, creatures that we are?
On the whole Joel Osteen thing .. I am not sure I've heard him really ever label himself as a pastor or preacher when he has done interviews with secular people. Most pastors are not afraid to stand strong against worldly things and straight up call sin sin.. does he do that? IDK... I would definitely agree he is more of that motivational speaker. He certainly doesn't tend to display the qualities of a pastor and shepherd to me.
Anyway good food for thought Faith! 🙂
How about Joyce meyer?
Curious on that too
I too am curious on Faith’s take on Joyce. Every criticism of seen of her they play footage from 20-30 years ago, yet I have heard her say that she was wrong on her earlier teachings about God always wants us to be healed. I find a lot of her analogies for Christian living to be really helpful, but she also says things that make me uncomfortable.
I would love to do the bible study bootcamp . However $45 to me is out of reach . I know for some its not much but for me it is . I feel sad i cant afford it . Please please consisder reducing the price for people like me that cannot afford that. Thanks
I admit it. I was a little leery when I saw your thumbnail. However, I have seen your other videos. So, I knew this was not a true attack videos with no answer to the problem that Olsten was trying to solve with his feel good theology. As someone who suffered emotionally, I can well uderstand the appeal of people like this.
For me, it was Joyce Meyers. As I matured and God began a work on my heart, my need for Joyce disappeared though my appreciation did not go away. I am a Charismatic and believe that God does heal, today. Yet, I've often felt a need to have a firmer grasp on my own theology. It's why I got Wayne Grudem Systematic Theology.
There was a time when I would not think that a blogger and RUclipsr would need suh thing when I'm not in apologetic. Yet, I recently felt a need to get sucha book, ebook version.
I do have a question for Joe and you. Though I am not a pastor, I puzzling through the value of having such a book. Love to get your input. Heck, it may be a good video topic since its up your alley.
Thanks for your comment! A book on Apologetics?
@@josephwomack4683 Do you mean a review of one?
Oh, I was just wondering what your question was for Faith and I
@@josephwomack4683 Hi Joe. I didn't know it was you. ;-) Some years ago, I was given a vision of what I believe God was calling me into. At the time, it was writing for the Kingdom. It has been confirmed through Scripture, and an open door. The problem is, I was never formally trained for ministry. Yet I've a clear writing gift.
I did tell my pastor at that time and he only suggested that I pray and seek God. I was born with disabilities and get SSDI. Yet, God has God has helped me in getting a tool called Logos Scholar's Library. I can't tell you how inadequate I felt. Yet, I had a strong need to push forward. By the way, I am a techie and would never have picked this arena. Who the heck is going to listen to me?
In 2002, I dived into writing content for a free website. I thought it would be a good way to showcase my writing. Though I could never get an article in a magazine, I did fairly well writing online. In 2009, I started my first blog site and then I started my current RUclips channel, a few years later.
I can't tell you how frustrated I felt in writing or doing RUclips video. Yet, I felt very much alive doing it. Of course, I had to learn quite a bit. I started with writing encouraging stories and moved to what I hope is meatier teachings. You can always find a link to my current blog site on my YT channel. A few days ago, I felt a need to buy an electronic version of Systematic Theology by Wayne Grudem.
Guess what? Theology and Apologetics are not something I do in my blog posts or video. However, I felt a need to get it and now I feel a need to do more than just review it. As a fellow content creator, I'm asking "How can Systematic Theology help with my content?" Yes, my target audience is the Body of Christ.
We SHOULD expose false teachers/ Teaching. Paul did.
I was in a cult for 17 years. People need to be challenged on their beliefs so they can dig deeper on their own to find truth
Thank you for keeping God # 1. Jesus says we need to die to ourselves if we want to be like Him. You must put yourself last and God first. Joel never does that.
Can u speak about DOLORES CANNON and her speaking’s on Jesus being involved in the metaphysical. She wrote lots of books speaking of aliens/ UFOs and past lives. And people speaking of Jesus while going under hypnosis. She is a well known metaphysical writer and has a RUclips channel.
Jesus says all things are possible to those who believe. So anything we are dealing with and in need of, such as healing we receive it by faith, which comes from the word of God which is for us. God wants us to have his kind of faith, so we can believe and receive for all our needs
Why target Joel only - there are many churches out there that do this! Everyone needs to read the Bible for themselves and NOT depend on pastors or bloggers to interpret!
I've attended his sister's Tamara and Jim? husband's church Faith Family and it's totally different.
The only thing God promises is that we will have trouble. But he would be with us through it.
So truuuu
He is a fraud. I wish more people would see him for who he is...
What is Joel saying or doing that is so bad? And he DOES end his sermons with a Christ altar call.
3:38 I needed to hear that. I’m reading genesis and I do not like Abraham or Issac and I think Adam got left off too easy too
We need to stay in Gods word so that we know false teaching or we get pulled into the lie. Then when you don’t get rich you feel like you aren’t truly saved or God hates you and that’s so far from the truth…. I thank God for the storms because I truly find who he really is. The anchor holds….❤❤
Ol’ smilin’ joel😂
If you believe the bible is true have you read the part that says don't worship gods your forefathers did not know? Do you believe this to be true?
What are you getting at?
My take away is what you want or THINK you want is not ALWAYS going to be Gods answer. THAT is a blessing. That is THE blessing. He knows what we need and are going to get. We do not know our long range reality. He KNOWS what will be coming up for us. Also we in this world just have an almost epidemic of "I" or Me, what is in it for Me, me me me. It is shoved in our face daily. The ME mentality. We have to steer clear of that as BEST as we can. Also keep your eye on THE CROSS. It will lead you home.
thank you Faith for debunking him. I grew up in Houston and some of my family were on staff. But that was back in the 60s/70s. Joel doesn't NOT to have the same anointing his Father did.... Not at all. His Dad, John Osteen, was great as I recall.
I get nauseous when he's on. I stopped listening to Joel Osteen back in the 90s.. it suddenly dawned on me that he never spoke about the Most Precious Blood of Jesus! He never gave Scripture References (i. e. Book, Chapter and Verse). And while I knew the Scripture he was referring to, a baby Christian would not.
I stopped like him along with Joyce meyers & max luceo (im sure that’s spelled wrong after paying attention to the Bible said to aware of false prophets. I felt the Lord was pushing me away from those people.