I've always viewed runways like an art exhibition with legs. Some wealthy artist shows off their latest series of works, and just like an exhibition of weird paintings, the occasional buyer with connections and money can purchase the real thing. But most of us are only ever buying the cheaper print of it. The big difference is that no painter is charging $4000 for the cheaper print lol.
Some brands do sell their runway looks in stores, but many brands only have basics on display. You can sometimes ask if they have stuff in the back or order/request runway items, particularly if you're a regular customer (= spends a lot). Some garments really are very expensive to produce, even if it's not apparent. There's also a lot of high priced crap that cost pennies to manufacture. You have to know what you're paying for. 🙃 "Expensive" does not always mean "rip-off".
It is a sad state of affairs when luxury is not too distinguishable from fast fashion. Going to stick with sewing my own clothes to get the quality that I need and want.
I think in this situation it’s important to stress the difference between ready-to-wear shows and couture/alta moda shows. Taking Dior as an example their couture isn’t available in stores, but quite a bit of the ready-to-wear stuff is. (Thinking of the latest cruise collection here) I get your point and it’s probably true to an extent, but why not extend the video a bit to show this difference?
I love you channel, especially when you go a little bit technical about the garment's construction. So cool. Also, the comparison between high-end luxury garment x standard garment. Amazing. Keep it going!
Depends on your local market. If you don’t live in LA, NY; you won’t have leading flagship products. You get normie non-seasonal fashion runway items. Think a Prada store in Denver vs New York/Milan
Saint Laurent, Celine, TOM FORD and many other brands do sell items exactly as on runways, but Prada, Louis Vuitton, Dior do not., LV runway stuff are available for preorder only afaik
Actually Saint Laurent have a nice way to release most outrageous pieces - they do them in one size only, i.e. done for women 175-185cm tall, like many of these coats from this collection ruclips.net/video/8qX8C8kl7j0/видео.html
@@gustavm5064 Instead of doing like LV, who releases runway pieces for celebrities only, Kering companies are least produce runway pieces which are available.
Don't forget that the North American market is much more conservative compared to Europe or Japan. Therefore you won't see the more interesting pieces over there since buyers tend to be more on the safe side.
I will always be salty that Burberry never launched RTW version of their tapestry dress from 2016 (?). It was absolutely gorgeous and I ever saw it irl one time from someone who bought it after the show. Gutted, I tell you
Opening with a Prada diss is crazy because Raf is an amazing creative director and they’re doing well for a reason. They only have ready to wear in store. At Saks you can become a member to view the private runway collection. They never claimed to sell runway in store, but they actually do have select pieces that say runway or you can ask an SA. Instead of just going in on many people’s livelihoods and judging maybe actually look at/touch the garments or talk to someone that’s a part of the brand? It’s a five minute video basically saying nothing revolutionary with little to no research like cmon.
@@greeysp4747 store stock depends on the country. also some runway pieces are super limited, and some never even make it to stores. like that viral Coach bag from their show that everyone wanted, but they never actually released. sometimes it's more about what the brand can do and setting trends rather than actually putting everything into production
Das ist nicht überall gleich. Ich kaufe bei Dior und da gibt es schon viele Teile der runway shows zu kaufen. Mein persönliches Gefühl ist, dass 80 % der Teile vom runway (pret a porte) auch in die Geschäfte kommen (nicht in alle Geschäfte, da gibt es Unterschiede, es gibt Teile, die kommen nur in größere Geschäfte und es wird auch nicht alles online verkauft). Aber die Kollektionen umfassen mehr Teile als auf dem runway gezeigt werden, Du siehst im Geschäft und online noch ganz andere Artikel.
I buy my brand name stuff from a well known website that also lets you haggle the price. Except that whenever I mention the site name, YT deletes the comment.
Yes the fabric in the jacket with so many different fibers was specially woven for that company, and 9/10 times it is done on a small loom by a master weaver.
why are these stores looking so cheap? white empty walls, chrome hangers, and suspended ceilings, ew like a department store, not a luxury shop at all, a regular store boutique has a lot more going on inside, this looks soo bad, literally a fast fashion store has better interior design, what happened to brand identity??? literally a hot topic store has better product displays and store interior design! I didn’t see Any Luxury there, and no distinction between any Brand! so lazy and cheap
I only watch haute couture shows on youtube (except Schiaparelli, I watch everything there), most of the ready to wear shows are boring as hell. I would think they don't sell the more interesting pieces at stores because most people like wearable stuff. Meanwhile I'm foaming at the mouth to see the latest Mugler pieces online.
That tweed jacket? I can definitely understand that price tag on it. There's a LOT of hand-work involved, and yes that fabric probably was woven in small lots on a loom by a professional weaver. And the modal t-shirt? If it was made by someone who's not getting paid slave labour wages, the markup on it isn't really that surprising, considering the brand name and where it's being sold. I think if you're going to comment on fashion pricing, you might want to learn more more about fabric technology and garment production. Certainly there are ripoffs all over the place, but it's good to comment from a place of knowledge.
Depends on your local market. If you don’t live in LA, NY; you won’t have leading flagship products. You get normie non-seasonal fashion runway items. Department stores are not flagship stores; different customer. Think a Prada store in Denver vs New York/Milan
I've always viewed runways like an art exhibition with legs. Some wealthy artist shows off their latest series of works, and just like an exhibition of weird paintings, the occasional buyer with connections and money can purchase the real thing. But most of us are only ever buying the cheaper print of it. The big difference is that no painter is charging $4000 for the cheaper print lol.
you'd be surprised. In some high end galleries they're now selling some fancy (usually quite big) limited edition prints for upwards of 10 000€
Some brands do sell their runway looks in stores, but many brands only have basics on display. You can sometimes ask if they have stuff in the back or order/request runway items, particularly if you're a regular customer (= spends a lot).
Some garments really are very expensive to produce, even if it's not apparent. There's also a lot of high priced crap that cost pennies to manufacture. You have to know what you're paying for. 🙃
"Expensive" does not always mean "rip-off".
It is a sad state of affairs when luxury is not too distinguishable from fast fashion. Going to stick with sewing my own clothes to get the quality that I need and want.
I think in this situation it’s important to stress the difference between ready-to-wear shows and couture/alta moda shows.
Taking Dior as an example their couture isn’t available in stores, but quite a bit of the ready-to-wear stuff is. (Thinking of the latest cruise collection here)
I get your point and it’s probably true to an extent, but why not extend the video a bit to show this difference?
Couture is available for pre-order
I love you channel, especially when you go a little bit technical about the garment's construction. So cool. Also, the comparison between high-end luxury garment x standard garment. Amazing. Keep it going!
Depends on your local market. If you don’t live in LA, NY; you won’t have leading flagship products. You get normie non-seasonal fashion runway items. Think a Prada store in Denver vs New York/Milan
Saint Laurent, Celine, TOM FORD and many other brands do sell items exactly as on runways, but Prada, Louis Vuitton, Dior do not., LV runway stuff are available for preorder only afaik
Actually Saint Laurent have a nice way to release most outrageous pieces - they do them in one size only, i.e. done for women 175-185cm tall, like many of these coats from this collection ruclips.net/video/8qX8C8kl7j0/видео.html
@@burgersuperking What makes that way nice?
@@gustavm5064 Instead of doing like LV, who releases runway pieces for celebrities only, Kering companies are least produce runway pieces which are available.
@@gustavm5064 sarcasm
Ich bin Kundin von Dior und Dior Frauen Kollektion verkauft die meisten Runway Kleidung. Ich habe sie im Kleiderschrank!
Don't forget that the North American market is much more conservative compared to Europe or Japan. Therefore you won't see the more interesting pieces over there since buyers tend to be more on the safe side.
I will always be salty that Burberry never launched RTW version of their tapestry dress from 2016 (?). It was absolutely gorgeous and I ever saw it irl one time from someone who bought it after the show. Gutted, I tell you
I've always wondered this. Upper mid tier brands like Acne Studios & COS have better clothing in-stores than these designer brands.
Opening with a Prada diss is crazy because Raf is an amazing creative director and they’re doing well for a reason. They only have ready to wear in store. At Saks you can become a member to view the private runway collection. They never claimed to sell runway in store, but they actually do have select pieces that say runway or you can ask an SA. Instead of just going in on many people’s livelihoods and judging maybe actually look at/touch the garments or talk to someone that’s a part of the brand? It’s a five minute video basically saying nothing revolutionary with little to no research like cmon.
Yes!! I was about to comment the same thing 🤕🤕
They never claimed to sell runway in a store 💀💀 then what are they selling in the store ??? MERCH ??
@@greeysp4747 store stock depends on the country. also some runway pieces are super limited, and some never even make it to stores. like that viral Coach bag from their show that everyone wanted, but they never actually released. sometimes it's more about what the brand can do and setting trends rather than actually putting everything into production
Das ist nicht überall gleich. Ich kaufe bei Dior und da gibt es schon viele Teile der runway shows zu kaufen. Mein persönliches Gefühl ist, dass 80 % der Teile vom runway (pret a porte) auch in die Geschäfte kommen (nicht in alle Geschäfte, da gibt es Unterschiede, es gibt Teile, die kommen nur in größere Geschäfte und es wird auch nicht alles online verkauft). Aber die Kollektionen umfassen mehr Teile als auf dem runway gezeigt werden, Du siehst im Geschäft und online noch ganz andere Artikel.
I buy my brand name stuff from a well known website that also lets you haggle the price. Except that whenever I mention the site name, YT deletes the comment.
It's a second hand website, forgot to mention.
Yes the fabric in the jacket with so many different fibers was specially woven for that company, and 9/10 times it is done on a small loom by a master weaver.
I always said that. In fact I watched runway shows for laughs.
Rick Owens sells exactly what they show on the runway
why are these stores looking so cheap? white empty walls, chrome hangers, and suspended ceilings, ew
like a department store, not a luxury shop at all,
a regular store boutique has a lot more going on inside,
this looks soo bad,
literally a fast fashion store has better interior design, what happened to brand identity???
literally a hot topic store has better product displays and store interior design!
I didn’t see Any Luxury there, and no distinction between any Brand!
so lazy and cheap
I only watch haute couture shows on youtube (except Schiaparelli, I watch everything there), most of the ready to wear shows are boring as hell. I would think they don't sell the more interesting pieces at stores because most people like wearable stuff.
Meanwhile I'm foaming at the mouth to see the latest Mugler pieces online.
This is so interesting!
Luxury brands look like inditex shops
That tweed jacket? I can definitely understand that price tag on it. There's a LOT of hand-work involved, and yes that fabric probably was woven in small lots on a loom by a professional weaver. And the modal t-shirt? If it was made by someone who's not getting paid slave labour wages, the markup on it isn't really that surprising, considering the brand name and where it's being sold. I think if you're going to comment on fashion pricing, you might want to learn more more about fabric technology and garment production. Certainly there are ripoffs all over the place, but it's good to comment from a place of knowledge.
Depends on your local market. If you don’t live in LA, NY; you won’t have leading flagship products. You get normie non-seasonal fashion runway items. Department stores are not flagship stores; different customer. Think a Prada store in Denver vs New York/Milan