The moment you've all been waiting for: 4Max Metal is here.
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- The moment you've all been waiting for: 4Max Metal is here.
4Max Metal is a desktop 3D printer specializing in printing metal materials.
You can print replacement parts on-demand, manufacture with custom Metalcrafts, and conformal cooling molds.😀😀
One of the best things is we work with Uprise 3D to make 4Max Metal, at the same time, we make the 316L stainless steel filament ready for you to print.
Want to know more? 😎😎
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1:45 if youre gonna include a strenght demonstration, either hit it like you mean it or dont include it. Those light taps just make me suspicious.
The audio of the 'hit' doesn't even look like it matches the video. I've had bad experiences with Anycubic, and they are Chinese. Its not part of their culture to be ashamed of lying.
You can tell the part was printed as a thin 2-4layer wall... just showing it did bond in the sintering phase. But I know what you mean. Show a real strength test!
Sintered parts are relatively fragile compared to machined parts.
Not to mention the fake ass sound effects they overlaid on it.
The vice closing action was a bit suspiciously light too.
I got exited till I saw the industrial furnace. Then I was back in reality.
oup there goes gravity
You just need a kiln. You can buy one or build your own. Building one is not that difficult I have built a few different size kilns before for a few hundred bucks.
Same
@@WoodenWeaponry gravity doesn't exist! It's just accustic resonance field cuz all matter is sound (uniVersed into existence by God) and earth is flat! Check it out!
Powder bed laser fusion machines will do it all in one if you have about $300k.
Cmon, that strength test was a JOKE. Lets see what the material can actually do PLEASE
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Exactly. They didn't even show the deformation that those light hammer strikes produced.
I would love to see how it compares to, say, aluminum or pot metal (which it looks like it is).
A good test should go to failure and compare the failure point and mode to “identical” parts made through other processes: cast aluminum, forged aluminum, injection molded plastic, etc.
Also should test tensile, compression, and sheer strength, as well as hardness, stiffness, elasticity, etc. this video was more of an intro add, so I’m fine they didn’t do that here, but a follow up video would be very helpful.
@@gregiep A good test would involve CNC Kitchen!
The test might have been a bit of a joke, but I have no suspects that those parts really are AISI 316L stainless (which is quite far from pot metal) and their properties matching closely the equivalent properties of traditionally cast or wrought components. Reason for this is that there is already a working and proven method of making steel components from a feedstock that is metal powder mixed in plastic binder calle MIM - Metal Injection Molding.
This is just a similarly distant cousin of MIM in the same way as traditional FDM is an a cousin to plastic injection molding.
im gonna need a furnace bro
You can send the green part by mail to a heat treating company and they can bake it for you. Then you can sell sintered metal things until you can afford to buy a furnace of your own. This is revolutionary on how cheap the entry is.
Alternatively, you print the part in PLA, and make a PLA loss mold. Melt the metal of your choosing, and poor it into the mold and clean.
Try to heat treatment in oven 😂😂plz do not try
A furnace is also good for grilling a steak. Think of it.
Christopher Riley does the result look good?
Can't wait to put that into my sintering furnace. Like everybody.
I know right? Who doesn't have one? I made a sintered cheese sandwich with ham in mine.
@@DoctorBadVibez OMG love sintered ham and cheese sandwiches.
You can build a muffler furnace for under $100 is getting everything timed right and knowledge of what gases they may use
@@SavetheRepublic Ah a person of true, refined taste!
@@anotherguy9402 oh absolutely yes, I'm all for population control, but, just putting it out there, there's a reason why them ovens cost a lot of money, to own and operate. Observe as I wave my hand and state "This is not the moment you've all been waiting for, it is sadness yet to materialize out of digital vaporware."
I came here just to see that octopus get picked up an see it's legs wiggle.
octopuses have tentacles ;P
1:33
@@jihfase no it takes ten tickles to make a octopus laugh 🤓
me too
Printer 5k, oven 150k. Yep this is the moment I decide I can't afford this. Come back in 10 years.
You can buy a small muffler furnace for around $700
Now all I need is a giant pressurized oven.
This is a big achievement nonetheless. Whatever the results for now, the right steps toward metal printing is being made and thank you for that!
Yeah no the average DIY 3D printer can not do this at home so yeah this isn't what we been waiting for.
Please stay tuned for our coming resin 3d printers!
In 1939 the average car couldn't go 50 mph. What they're showing here is a redefinition of average if they can keep the total package affordable.
@@ANYCUBIC3D ...I'm interested if you not only increase build volume, but also resolution in compare to Elegoo Saturn :)
@ANYCUBIC if your new resin 3D printers will allow us to print 316L at home… well, I guess you win. If not… STOP TEASING US!! 😎
this is still an astonishing leap forward, even if a furnace is needed
I'm really questioning the sanity of Anycubic right now.
why?
@@jamesN6450 Because the product makes 0 sense? Why should I get this instead of ordering the parts from a proper SLS service?
@@sciencebeartimberwoods7610 exactly
@@sciencebeartimberwoods7610 Perhaps for an individual, but for a small company, it does make sense. Maybe 10 years from now a truly DiY community metal printer will be a thing. This is a step towards that direction.
@@olibeau7955 I believe that a metal powder 3-D printer can make the products faster and stronger.
thankfully every hobby guy that prints has access there own furnace
Simply add a wing to your house for the 7 ton kiln (sold separately) and you'll be on your way to metal printing. *requires 1000kw service, please check with your local power company... YAY! The future is here!
I'm still waiting....Apparently the "you" referenced in the title means fabrication facility with industrial vaccuum sintering furnaces. I sure a f@ck don't have one of these in my garage.
I keep mine in the kitchen gadget cupboard, next to my nuclear submarine..
I would like to see actual strength, compression, and bend data on a chart. Anyone who would buy this would want that. You could screen grab and review. Also it seams there is a back Ned forth to a finishing process. Cost? Confidentiality? Etc
Right
How would we as consumers do the sintering and debinding phase?
i was going to ask about that!!!
same question
In the microwave 😂
There are services that do it for us at least in Germany and the EU. However, I have no idea how much they cost per part.
Maybe a simple oven like this www.gerstaecker.de/efco-Modell-135-KF-Brennofen.html could do it as well.
My mom still got a pottery oven from the 80s ... 🤔
my favorite part was where i recognized a bunch of those mega-expensive 3d printed parts from thingiverse
At last! a more affordable $1400 at-home metal 3D printer, that I can then print metal parts to put into my $500k sintering furnace! Seriously, If people need this kind of processing to finish a part, they'll just buy an SLS printer to begin with.
It takes less time casting metal the classic way and also stronger
It's easy and cheap!
All you need is a $500 printer, oh and about $50,000 for an industrial oven and kiln.
That's it!
Honestly it would be way easier to just 3d print with PLA, or whatever you want, then make a mold with it (concrete, or sand if it's an easy mold) and metal cast. It would take a fraction of the time, wouldn't shrink, and would be an actual strong metal.
Oh, castings most certainly do shrink. They shrink less than this process but there is shrinkage. However, I still agree with you, the easier process for hobbyists is to print in PLA and do some sort of lost PLA casting. It works fine and then all you need is a normal (and much cheaper) metal melting kiln. One might acquire one of those for under $1000 if they know where to look.
The moment you've all been waiting for! Cause we all got industrial furnace in our living room !
Pretty cool, however the printer looks like it is clearly designed for consumer use but the whole process is still very industrial. I think it will be a while before hobbyists will be able to carry out the full process at home
Yeah, that's what I've been waiting for. Easy to do at home. Those ovens look easy and cheap to install and use....... Can you please get real.
Anthony mate, You don't have such of an oven at home?, and are you telling me you don't have either an autoclave? XD
@@JP-xd6fm Yeah, poor me.
@@rcpattaya230 Maybe in China is so easy to send your 3Dprinted stuff to somewhere to do that process for you, I guess.
@@JP-xd6fm Well, maybe you haven't noticed, but it was meant to be a bit sarcastic.
@@rcpattaya230 Yes, me too at the first response, then I tried to guess why they did the video
I’m trusting their machines when they can’t even have non distorted music on YT vids?!? 😂
Fr just make a mold and pour brass at this cost
"As long as you have an enormous sintering furnace and your part doesn't have strength requirements exeding three light taps with a hammer... this is the moment you've been waiting for!"
The internet: -_-
i love everyone clowning on the strength demo. obviously its not going to be as strong as high carbon steel but it is by no means an easily damaged material. car parts and some gun parts are made using this process. source? i used to work in a factory that fabricated metal parts using plastic injection machines in a similar process to this
@@mikeynjs94 Although the process of making MIM materials is similar, it is not the same process and you look dumb trying to insinuate that it is. Moreover, MIM parts in auto and gun applications are notorious for failure due to their weak fabrication. This product is a non-starter and everyone knows it. Try harder.
I am positively sure that this is NOT the moment we've been waiting for.
this is amazing, I dont fully understand the science behind this process but the results even compared to other industrial metal 3d printers are fantastic.
I would love to see a straight up comparison, CNC machine vs this system...show the time/skill/money it takes to get to the finished part. I can say for sure the CNC will be nicer looking and does not require a massive furnace to achieve it.
There would be no reason to do things that are trivial on CNC. The real reason for them would be the impossible to mill parts such as interior details for a 1 piece part.
@@GeoFry3 Exactly... CNC is not cheap either + CNC is not capable of cutting super intricate designs... printing offers more (a lot more) versitilaty.
everyday we get closer to "you wouldn't download a car"
jokes on you, I have an STL for a Porsche already
Интересно а сколько времени займет чтобы распечатать двигатель.
Just about any 3D printer can do it. Use BASF Ultrafuse 316L Fillament. The most difficult part would be debinding and sintering. Need an industrial support for this (1300oС) in vacuum or high pressure inertial gas - no joke!
you: puts print in industrial furnace
me: i think my air fryer outta do the trick
Reminds me of the Seiko wrist watch TV. There was a joke on this kind of technology: 2 men met at the airport. A saw B watching a movie in the airport, made video calls with the same device. The setting of this joke was in the 1990's. A asked B to sell him this device for US$10000. B Happily complied and handed him the watch after A paid him cash. A then happily wore the watch and was about to walk away with his instant gratification. Then B suddenly shouted to A: hey, you forgot your luggage. A turned back, smiled and told B he travelled light without luggage. Guess what B said to him: Bro, its the battery of the watch :-)
Oh cool! A small form facor metal 3d printer for anyone! Looks great.... oh
Looks like i need a furnace
the printer isnt doing anything special that a regular one can.
will the big vault oven be included?
Hello, if you have any question, please contact our sales manager:Joe@anycubic.com
@@ANYCUBIC3D Apparently, all can be arranged provided you have to required fund. :D
me with just a standard kitchen oven: ah yes this is perfect
LOL
I can imagine only a small market for this. What we really need is a printer that prints aluminium wire just like we print with plastic filament today.
Would much need to be changed from current tech? Aluminium melts at about 660C so a more powerful heater, different block, no more teflon tubes, not kaptan, not sure what material would be good for tubing, perhaps an all-metal delivery system for the wire.
Who doesn't have an industrial furnace at home?!
I'll save up for a SLS printer instead.
got any recommendations?
@@JJ-vp3bd The LISA.
@@ozzy1887 buy mine
Form a 3d printer club, collect 1,000's of green prints, get a bulk rate on processing.
Get folks to commit to a monthly quota; get a better price break from the foundry if you can guarantee business...
Doing all the steps at home is the unrealistic part.
You hit it so fast and hard with your hammer it almost breaks.
I would like to see the 3d printer nerd do a review of this process!!!
I agree! Or Makers Muse.
They wont until its viable for us at home
Or they will and be honest that this isnt something for home tech and its an industrial process
How is this different from metal filament that you can print on your standard 3D printer, like BASF ultrafuse 316l filament?
Looking forward to the microwavable version.
😲 What??? Wow!!! 👍👍👍
Seems like SLS would require less space, no furnaces and have higher resolution.
This reminds me of metal binderjet printing but with all the drawbacks of FDM.
Nope, still can't put this into my bedroom. This is not what I've been waiting for.
I've seen simpler systems 15 years ago. They 3d print in layers suspended in sand....when complete, the whole tray goes into a sintering oven and voila, parts.
What they do is lay down a layer of sand and metal particles 1 mil at a time, the beauty is? they can do as many parts as you can fit into the tray. The one I saw did 24 up of a dozen different parts.
@@muskokamike127 Wastes a lot of material. The majority of the left over material isn't typically reusable.
@@Storebrand_ You don't know what you're talking about. The system I saw wastes ZERO material. It sure doesn't waste the powered metal as it only lays enough down to create the part you want to make.
The sand isn't wasted as not a damn thing happens to it during the sintering process.
I have a forge, I've used my green sand 100 times and if I screw up a casting? I put it back in and re-melt it.
How much PLA do you "waste" when you 3d? (unless you screw up and it doesn't turn out).
I wonder if my daughter's easy bake oven would work? Maybe if I bought an 100 watt bulb and changed it out? Hmmm
i think the metal powder with a laser welding the powder is a better home solution, it is easy, and don't require many steps, and parts loks great, but the prise has to drop before i buy it :-)
Who exactly was waiting for it? 🙏🏼
It's so simple, you just need a giant autoclave, a furnace, and easy done😂
Cool. Bought your 3D Delta printer a few years back and just recently put it together because I was needing a part. Printing 8 parts saved me enough to pay off that printer. This looks really interesting. As for a sintering furnace, one can make their own if they want. Plenty of furnace building videos on here. If it can melt glass, it can sinter these parts.
@onjoFilms - Sure... so long as you can figure out how to "safely" introduce the proper gasses, which are required to keep the metal from oxidizing into a pile of dust.
At this point you may as well just do metal dust injection sintering molding that's how they make cheap planetary gears for drills. I feel like they forgot about the rapid part of 3d printing/rapid prototyping.
because the average 3D printer user is going to have industrial quality Ovens just kicking around their homes!
All things considered, lost PLA casting would be a much more attainable way to get metal parts for the home gamer! Just need a kiln to bake the investment and then a furnace to melt the metal. Much easier than these fancy industrial furnaces.
I was all excited until I realized this a not for the home user.
can You print engine block this way? Perhaps not full scale, just lawnmower or hobby one, it would still be interesting. I know it is not only possible, but easy to print engine block with powder sintering (and electron beam sintering lowers the price) . Your method would make price even more competetive :)
Does the factory, industrial furnace and workers come free with the printer?
Will a miniaturised desktop version of them be available in future?
Hey anycubic, call me when you can get this to work for the little guy.. In the meantime I'll be firing up my forge.. Jesus...
oh.. so a corporation is telling us we are waiting for its thing? NOPE, NEXT!
Sweeet just got my "desktop" printer...
Now lemme pop it in this ROOM SIZE sintering furnace.
the filament is available for other printers and the result can be strengthened with metal melted into it?
I wonder could the filament be used in a normal 3d printer and then home DIY the furnace etc.?
Good thing I already have a blast furness in my garage
what kind of strength characteristics do the parts end up with? Are there changes in part integrity based of the initial resolution of the print?
that hammer hits XD
Nice, i already have such a sintering furnace in my kitchen 😁
Desktop printer and $50,000 worth of autoclaves... yeah, that's gonna take right off like gangbusters.
I feel like this is more of a tech demo, and still a professional machine, not for home use.
Anyway this looks amazing and I'm just happy that 3D printing is already at this stage!
i wanna see a REAL strength test of those parts
For some of these parts microwave aluminum melting might be a alternative.
@Grim FPV I don't think so. What do you want to heat? The printed 4Max Metal parts? They seem to need a special gas around. With aluminum melting I meant something like printing a mold and poor hot aluminum into it.
Fantastic, absolutely Fantastic.
Good thing we all have kilns laying around to process the parts, otherwise this could get really expensive.
does this come with an oven?
Lol @ that fake ass hammer strike!
Nice, unless you don't want your parts to shrink to the wrong size.
Beautiful keep it up!
Ah yes now all people need are giant kilns and cinter furnaces in their houses
It's just a matter of time before some amazing engineers make metal 3d printing open source and practically and financially accessible to the same folks using resin and platic filaments. Probably will end up being vastly different process to this and other industrial metal printers.
I'll do whit MIG.
@@JJ_Assalt living in a nyc apartment I wish I had the luxury of having a workspace for welding and metal casting. I always wanted a main battle tank.
the moment i'm waiting for is news on the new mono lcd printers, preferably the 4k one
I think I can eat ramen for a little bit, it’s time to buy some filament
In all honesty, 3d metal printing is going to need tons of development. At the moment any precision part will still need machining to work properly. Until then I would like to see Anycubic develop more reliable LCDs or an alternative to an LCD that would be less consumable. Have you guys considered an Anucubuc vacuum forming system or other pieces of equipment that would be in demand for current hobbyists and small business owners? If you were to produce a practical metal printer in the future id like to see an Anycubic hand lathe or CNC machine come out at the same time. Imagine printing your castings and then setting them in your Anycubic CNC machine to finish the job! Something to consider!
Markforged has had this technology for many years, and small enough to fit in a small room. Anycubic is really behind.
Great... is MF selling their unit for $5k(?)
The major downsides versus Direct Laser Metal Fusion: -processing time is long -production is not directly the usable part -needs specialty handling to get usable part -material shrinkage is around 10-15% (high), and must be designed around -high costs for post-processing parts -lots of shipping involved, which is wasted resources.
It's "neat" in a way, but it really doesn't make much sense to be so wasteful when better methods exist already. There is no Privacy when parts have to be sent to the processor... So each furnace technician can see all the parts people are making. What if someone is doing Government/Military/Patent parts and needs it to be kept Private/Secret? Too many extra steps, when there's a shorter path available, with better security
This is probably beyond your average hobbyist. Super cool tho.
Where is the difference to a regular FDM-printer except for the filament? It looks just like a normal hot end. And could one upgrade his printer to be able to print this filament?
More or less, yeah. You might need a stainless steel nozzle so that it doesn't get absolutely murdered by the steel grit in the filament but normal 3D printers can do this. The real magic is in the furnace and that's... not quite consumer grade shall we say. You would need to send the printed parts out to a foundry or someone who has a very expensive kiln to get this to work properly either way.
@@CKidder80 Also seems managable if you know some people. They probably don't sell the filament to consumers though.
I need spring dial for extruder feed on my Anycubic X but parts are hard to find. You should put this and parts on Amazon for good customer service.
I will look up for when I can create or customize my diecast cars with this kind of technology
Honestly with your quality control I seriously double if I would buy this even if there’s a way to get away without the post processing
**laughs in 3D pen**
Is the material magnetic like metal?
The future is not here until direct laser sintering is affordable. Print and done. For now I will have to stick to my CNC Mills.
We can 3d print new 3d printers, but can we 3d print sintering furnaces?
Still the biggest question, what's the precision of this printing? Paying 120k to buy a desktop metal for a better software to offset the shrinkage or DIY yourself by using metal filament on any FFF printers?
i used to work in a factory that injection molded parts with materials similar to this. it also went through the same processes from molding of "green" part placed on ceramic tiles which were then placed on graphite sheets and sent to furnaces to become "brown" part and then sintered to the final composition to where they would be finished. and these parts are ridiculously strong for being what they are. if you live in the US and youve been to a restaurant with a coke machine that has the metal arm for dispensing either plain water or just the carbonated water without the syrup: those parts are made using this process. there are also parts made for a gun specifically for the US Military. idk which gun bc it was, being a government contract, a secret but... crazy to see its now a printable material. blows my mind.
ill need an entire industrial zone for a small fucking octopus
So, how hot does that furnace have to be to make it happen?
But it is just regular 3d printer and all the magic around 316L filament and postprocessing. Dare you, anycubic.
I've been looking into building my own muffler furnace recently after building a chain impact mill and refurbishing an old cnc mill. It would be nice to know what gases if any are used and burn time/temp process. Thinking the product could sell better if a few YT maker's were able to build their own and successfully sinter it.