True but I think it's a slippery slope if his name isn't on much of the contracts and he still has jobs going on for a few months. He doesn't want to completely piss someone off and make it about personal reasons when "I'm taking another job" is going to already be hard enough to accept
John I think your advice to Dave is spot on. Obviously you know from experience the way to go about it. Well done as usual John. I'm sure you've helped Dave very much. He clearly took all your wisdom on board . You're needed John.
I haven't watched the video yet, but the way you phrase your thoughts makes me think you're being sarcastic. Maybe you're being serious, but this comment reminds me of the importance of the tone of voice.
This is crazy how much I can relate with this video. I was also in a business partnership with a good friend of mine. I stepped away a year ago. I totally know what this guy’s going through.
4:58 I’m tagging this very wise communication advice for my own benefit! So well said, and a great template for many scenarios. I really appreciate Dr. Delony’s wisdom.
10:46 Fun fact: One reason the Unabomber was caught was because he insisted it should be "Eat your cake and have it too", a formulation his brother recognised when reading the manifesto.
The caller is asking for PERMISSION to ditch on his friend. Caller tries to justify it by saying 'but his wife sucks' or 'but the business is mismanaged' or whatever nonsense he's convinced himself of. But the guilt of ditching on someone who put his heart and soul into a business and who shared the same struggle meals trying to scratch their way out of poverty, that guilt is heavy... and it grows by the tonne each and every year of struggle - and is deadly for each decade. So instead of just dealing with the obvious feelings of rejection of his friend getting married (and more than that, just getting your friend at his worse, and only as much as his wife will allow which is scant), they instead are just running away, leaving their best friend in the dust to sort of the pieces, not just of the business (which is a mess) but also of their strained friendship. The thing is: you're a weak coward. You should NOT just ditch your friend, one which you obviously struggled along side for years with even being roommates... and instead you should be BRAVE and tell him that you feel hurt and that you're afraid of losing him as a friend. Don't hide behind the company being mismanaged, that's something different completely and you know it. I am all for defensive driving, and that saying 'you can't save others from drowning, until you save yourself first'... and there is a time to make hard choices that might feel selfish and are sad to make but are vital to your overall health and wellbeing and those of those you care for and love.... BUT THIS AIN'T IT TEX. You're just running away because you're a hurt that your friend ditched you, and you're too scared to just tell him the truth. Sort that out first, THEN go onto greener pastures, at least you would be a respectable human being if you did that.... not just as other will see you, but how you should see yourself. In short, you feel bad thinking about ditching your friend because that's the wrong thing to do. You should still look for other work, but just not as a means of retaliation. Tell him, you're hurting. And as these things typically go, it won't get better, and you should leave.... if you do it in the reverse order of leaving and getting around to telling him you're hurting at some point maybe next tuesday or next leap year,... then you're worse of a friend than they are... they deserve better... you both do... and maybe if you talk it out you can make it work; if you don't even try, then it's over.
You hit the nail on the head. Yes his partner could be dealing with the struggles (or bliss) of being a newlywed and therefore isnt a workaholic or the backbone as he once was but this isn't about that as you said.
But at the start, he says he's doing all the donkey work because the partner has "stepped back" since he married . So if in effect he's running it alone , then it's not a partnership & his friend deserves it.
@@sarahholland2600 that's assuming that it is in fact true and not just an excuse to dissuade a guilty conscious. I am guessing it is not true because he feels guilty for quitting; If he instead was calling about his anger and resentment that would be more telling towards being upset for being left with the bag, but that's not what he did... he wanted delony to tell him that what he was doing was okay. Heck delony even went harder and said 'you should quit now for liability reasons' (which is good advice, to be fair), and even that got a guilty kickback of "naw... I can't do that to him..."... and he wants to at least give him months more of his efforts (which again, doesn't sound like something someone that is being put upon unjustly would say...) That said, you're not wrong in your accounting of their conversation. But that said as well, I think that my assertion is very likely the case given the circumstances. If you forgive me a delony-ism, "action is a language"... and he acted really guilty and emoted as much about ditching on his friend. None the less, fair point.
@@anonymous49125 I would feel bad breaking up the partnership because of the length of the friendship & the financial implications for the other person tho. Even if I'd been carrying them.
It's unclear why the caller did not insist on formal contracts, use of a known CPA firm, and detailed and specific legal documentation as to the rights, responsibilities and profit distributions within the partnership. Has he examined the balance sheets at any time, personally and analyzed same? Are there any profit and loss statements at all he has interrogated? If not, why not because his laziness and conflict avoidance has damaged him. I'm cynical. Sometimes deliberately loose and sloppy documentation (including tax filings) are conveniently used to hide things. So a full forensic audit might be order as this is dodgy behavior. ETA - Hypothesis/Theory: Just a guess, but there actually might be a second set of books which Dave has never seen. Conceivable the partner selected him (as a patsy) specifically because any involved and business-savvy individual would not combine resources with him. He's probably putting Dave's name on the docs to establish liability if this blows up to the IRS. In fact in may already have done so, hence the naming.
You have to do what is best for you. No one else will. I learned the hard way that many of my friends were only there out of convenience. Don't take JD's "unlegal" advice. Consult an attorney. JD often gets out in front of his skis.
@@BirdDogey1 His “legal advice” was to get an attorney because it sounds like this whole thing is a mess. You do realize Dr. John worked at a law school for years right? He does know quite a bit and gave this guy really good advice! He didn’t get “over his skis” contrary to what you said.
Pray about it and give it to God to sort out, it really brings peace on the decisions you make, which you really do not make but the Lord directs you in that way. Just let him know you submit.
I think the caller didn't do a great job of giving all the information up front. So when John thought he was finishing up with his advice, the caller kept throwing more info and questions out.
I've seen it a time or two, and even the comments called him out. I understand this guy isn't the perfect caller, but John was a bit too impatient from the jump.
I understand this guy isn't the perfect caller, but John was a bit too impatient from the jump. I'm not a businessman, but I hope this guy gets a lawyer, and that this goes as simple and easy as possible for him.
I am always shocked at how many times men blame the wife ... for everything... Its a pattern.. He is acting like this man is his father.. and not a friend.. He is so immature. MOVE ON... life is hard. I bet that mans wife is glad he moved on. I bet he is the problem.
I love how John has to take a swipe at every religious person while simultaneously claiming to be a Christian. “Everybody who joins a faith thinks it’s the one truth faith”… I’m ex-Christian and I treat religious people with twice the respect that John (the supposed Christian man) does.
Doesn't matter if you are religious or not, a smart person will still recognize that everyone of faith will feel that THEIR religion is the true one... Also, doesn't it come off a bit insecure, or even passive-aggressive to have to reaffirm everyone you talk to that your belief is the only true way?
@ His statement was obviously true, everyone feels their religion is correct. Regardless of if a person’s smart or not, it’s pretty obvious. Christians say this all the time, the one true gospel, it’s super common to hear this. I’m only pointing out that, it’s odd for John to rebuke him on that, especially given the fact that he believes that the gospels are exclusively true. Just one of those things where, if John isn’t Christian, just say it, then him making the rebuke makes sense. Otherwise he just sounds like he’s play-acting Christian-which bothers me more than if he were just upfront.
@nicklowe_ No one should have to prove their faith to anyone else, especially a stranger. Why do you think Christians, or anyone for that matter feel the need to tell us in the same breath that their religion is the only true one? It's either an argument or some weird dog whistle to upset people of other faiths. As for John, I think its awesome that he respects other religions even if he does not believe in them. But that respect must come from his understanding that others follow their faith for the same, or similar reasons as himself.
@nicklowe_ Think about it like this: Let's say you introduce yourself to me, and tell me that the gospel is the one true faith. I then introduce myself, and say that Allah is the one true King... What are we doing?
My appeal to every Muslim, my brother or sister, the owner of the channel, I know that it is not my right to comment on your channel, but God is my witness that our circumstances are harsh and forced me to do this. Please forgive me. My brother, there is still a brotherhood of faith. I asked you for a bag of flour. My brother, we women cannot go out among men. There is still a woman with you. My brother, God has honored you. You are men. We are women. We cannot go out or work like you. My brother, where is the brotherhood of faith in your hearts? We are women. There is no brotherhood, no mercy, no compassion, no humanity. And give good tidings to the patient. It is the greatest hope while waiting for what we want. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' How many times I called and talked and tried hard, but no one responded. Oh man, we are with you. My mother ordered us food from the restaurant. Moreand today. My mother left. Crying. She said, Why are you crying, my mother? She said, My daughter, I ask. God, that I may be honored by death. She said, Why, my mother. She cursed us. She said, "My daughter, today the restaurant owner insulted me. I said, 'Why?' I said, 'How can I be better than people?' I ask God, my daughter. May God gather me. With death alone, a gathering that is better than this humiliation and this humiliation. It is true. I am saying this. It diminishes my value and respect. But, man. I swear to God that I did not say this. I kiss your boots. I am so hungry that my conscience no longer allows me to let you go and ask us for food. I kiss your boots, man, and I ask you by God Almighty and in the Book of God, man, I kiss your boots, man. He has caused us harm, my brother, so that we can buy a kilo of flour and pay the rent. My brother, have mercy on us. He who is in the show will have mercy on you, He who is in the sky. My brother, this is my WhatsApp number: 00967772168484. Whoever can help us,message me on WhatsApp. We will send him the full name. He will transfer us as much as he can. May Allah reward you. Allah knows that my family and I, our house rent is 15 thousand Yemeni riyals per month, and now we owe 45 thousand for 3 months. The owner of the house is one of those people who do not have mercy. By Allah, my brother, he comes every day and humiliates us and talks about us and wants to throw us out of the house and into the street because we were unable to pay him the rent. We will have until the end of the week, and if we pay him, he will swear by Allah that he will throw us out into the street without mercy. See my situation for yourselves. I ask you by Allah, the Living, the Eternal, to help me. By Allah, the Almighty, even at night we cannot sleep from fear. We do not have mattresses or blankets to warm ourselves from the cold. Everything is flooded from the rain, and we have no one but Allah and then you. My brothers, I kiss your boots, don’t turn me awayempty-handed. Help us with whatever you can. Is it acceptable to you that we live in this place? We are girls and we have no one. Our father died in a car accident. Consider us your daughters and your honor, and help me with whatever you can. May God reward you with good =>[[}>] ^][/&;;&;&&;•̥·-•.,¸-•.,¸°·̮ •̥·°,.•¯,.•¯,;;;.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.------------------------------،-------،-&;&//&&----------،------💔......
Honestly is always the best policy. Upfront and honest. You can't control the reactions of others, only your own choice to be honest
True but I think it's a slippery slope if his name isn't on much of the contracts and he still has jobs going on for a few months. He doesn't want to completely piss someone off and make it about personal reasons when "I'm taking another job" is going to already be hard enough to accept
John I think your advice to Dave is spot on. Obviously you know from experience the way to go about it. Well done as usual John. I'm sure you've helped Dave very much. He clearly took all your wisdom on board . You're needed John.
I haven't watched the video yet, but the way you phrase your thoughts makes me think you're being sarcastic. Maybe you're being serious, but this comment reminds me of the importance of the tone of voice.
This is crazy how much I can relate with this video. I was also in a business partnership with a good friend of mine. I stepped away a year ago. I totally know what this guy’s going through.
The caller assumes he knows he knows his partner so very well. Does he know he needs to consult with an attorney?
I’m saying this so gently.. never go into business with friends or family. It’s the hardest thing to end should you want to leave. ♥️🙏
This guy is jealous of the wife and obviously hates her. She stole his “best friend”.
If you're a business partner, lawyer up! I'm almost betting he's just a star employee running the show.
4:58 I’m tagging this very wise communication advice for my own benefit! So well said, and a great template for many scenarios. I really appreciate Dr. Delony’s wisdom.
Genuinely curious to hear the business partners perspective on this.
You know him and his partners wife do not get along. Jealousy screaming out here.
I have been divorced and broke up with a business partner and both are just as hard. Tough stuff best of luck
10:46 Fun fact: One reason the Unabomber was caught was because he insisted it should be "Eat your cake and have it too", a formulation his brother recognised when reading the manifesto.
It was actually his brothers wife who noticed his handwriting or his ex wife idk who but they did
FWIW. Ayn Rand, speaking about the feminist movement says " It want it's cake and have it too"
@@JustinCase780what are you on? That’s so fun
The caller is asking for PERMISSION to ditch on his friend. Caller tries to justify it by saying 'but his wife sucks' or 'but the business is mismanaged' or whatever nonsense he's convinced himself of. But the guilt of ditching on someone who put his heart and soul into a business and who shared the same struggle meals trying to scratch their way out of poverty, that guilt is heavy... and it grows by the tonne each and every year of struggle - and is deadly for each decade.
So instead of just dealing with the obvious feelings of rejection of his friend getting married (and more than that, just getting your friend at his worse, and only as much as his wife will allow which is scant), they instead are just running away, leaving their best friend in the dust to sort of the pieces, not just of the business (which is a mess) but also of their strained friendship.
The thing is: you're a weak coward. You should NOT just ditch your friend, one which you obviously struggled along side for years with even being roommates... and instead you should be BRAVE and tell him that you feel hurt and that you're afraid of losing him as a friend. Don't hide behind the company being mismanaged, that's something different completely and you know it.
I am all for defensive driving, and that saying 'you can't save others from drowning, until you save yourself first'... and there is a time to make hard choices that might feel selfish and are sad to make but are vital to your overall health and wellbeing and those of those you care for and love.... BUT THIS AIN'T IT TEX. You're just running away because you're a hurt that your friend ditched you, and you're too scared to just tell him the truth.
Sort that out first, THEN go onto greener pastures, at least you would be a respectable human being if you did that.... not just as other will see you, but how you should see yourself.
In short, you feel bad thinking about ditching your friend because that's the wrong thing to do. You should still look for other work, but just not as a means of retaliation.
Tell him, you're hurting. And as these things typically go, it won't get better, and you should leave.... if you do it in the reverse order of leaving and getting around to telling him you're hurting at some point maybe next tuesday or next leap year,... then you're worse of a friend than they are... they deserve better... you both do... and maybe if you talk it out you can make it work; if you don't even try, then it's over.
You hit the nail on the head. Yes his partner could be dealing with the struggles (or bliss) of being a newlywed and therefore isnt a workaholic or the backbone as he once was but this isn't about that as you said.
But at the start, he says he's doing all the donkey work because the partner has "stepped back" since he married . So if in effect he's running it alone , then it's not a partnership & his friend deserves it.
@@sarahholland2600 that's assuming that it is in fact true and not just an excuse to dissuade a guilty conscious. I am guessing it is not true because he feels guilty for quitting; If he instead was calling about his anger and resentment that would be more telling towards being upset for being left with the bag, but that's not what he did... he wanted delony to tell him that what he was doing was okay. Heck delony even went harder and said 'you should quit now for liability reasons' (which is good advice, to be fair), and even that got a guilty kickback of "naw... I can't do that to him..."... and he wants to at least give him months more of his efforts (which again, doesn't sound like something someone that is being put upon unjustly would say...)
That said, you're not wrong in your accounting of their conversation. But that said as well, I think that my assertion is very likely the case given the circumstances. If you forgive me a delony-ism, "action is a language"... and he acted really guilty and emoted as much about ditching on his friend.
None the less, fair point.
@@anonymous49125 I would feel bad breaking up the partnership because of the length of the friendship & the financial implications for the other person tho. Even if I'd been carrying them.
It's unclear why the caller did not insist on formal contracts, use of a known CPA firm, and detailed and specific legal documentation as to the rights, responsibilities and profit distributions within the partnership. Has he examined the balance sheets at any time, personally and analyzed same? Are there any profit and loss statements at all he has interrogated? If not, why not because his laziness and conflict avoidance has damaged him. I'm cynical. Sometimes deliberately loose and sloppy documentation (including tax filings) are conveniently used to hide things. So a full forensic audit might be order as this is dodgy behavior.
ETA - Hypothesis/Theory: Just a guess, but there actually might be a second set of books which Dave has never seen. Conceivable the partner selected him (as a patsy) specifically because any involved and business-savvy individual would not combine resources with him. He's probably putting Dave's name on the docs to establish liability if this blows up to the IRS. In fact in may already have done so, hence the naming.
It always amazes me how un-business like some businesses are. Construction is riddled with this sort of handshake nonsense.
@@joannlee7239 Un-business like? Maybe not. Google fraud in Construction. Utterly breathtaking.
This John Deloney channel is getting pretty popular and successful based on all of the early BOT commenters! 😂
What does that mean and what is so funny ?
How do you know the earlier comments are bots?
You have to do what is best for you. No one else will. I learned the hard way that many of my friends were only there out of convenience. Don't take JD's "unlegal" advice. Consult an attorney. JD often gets out in front of his skis.
Delony literally told him to get an attorney… do you listen? 🤦♀️
@flashthecorgi2053 Yes he did and added legal advice despite telling him.
@@BirdDogey1 His “legal advice” was to get an attorney because it sounds like this whole thing is a mess. You do realize Dr. John worked at a law school for years right? He does know quite a bit and gave this guy really good advice! He didn’t get “over his skis” contrary to what you said.
The thumbnail scared me ….
I thought you are leaving.
Well it worked didn't it. 😅
i bet he will leave ramsey eventually as he gets increasingly popular and can build his own show imo
This is why I don’t do partnerships. 💅
Pray about it and give it to God to sort out, it really brings peace on the decisions you make, which you really do not make but the Lord directs you in that way. Just let him know you submit.
what does John do to keep from going bald????
Good genes.
Another man in love with a man
Huh?
Haha yep I said the same thing
Yeah what’s up with that haha
@@bettycoutts4739 when a man starts whining about another man's wife .....ok
@ you’re ridiculous
I could've sworn i saw this? Hmmm
Maybe you watched the original full show. This is a clip.
Right. Say less
First time I've ever seen Dr. John get annoyed by the caller and who wouldn't.
Lot of finger tapping. John seemed pretty impatient.
I think the caller didn't do a great job of giving all the information up front. So when John thought he was finishing up with his advice, the caller kept throwing more info and questions out.
I've seen it a time or two, and even the comments called him out. I understand this guy isn't the perfect caller, but John was a bit too impatient from the jump.
@@yourneighborhoodxenos John was fine. The guy was all over the place.
I understand this guy isn't the perfect caller, but John was a bit too impatient from the jump. I'm not a businessman, but I hope this guy gets a lawyer, and that this goes as simple and easy as possible for him.
I am always shocked at how many times men blame the wife ... for everything... Its a pattern.. He is acting like this man is his father.. and not a friend.. He is so immature. MOVE ON... life is hard. I bet that mans wife is glad he moved on. I bet he is the problem.
Eat your cake and have it too.
I love how John has to take a swipe at every religious person while simultaneously claiming to be a Christian. “Everybody who joins a faith thinks it’s the one truth faith”… I’m ex-Christian and I treat religious people with twice the respect that John (the supposed Christian man) does.
Over your head. 😅
Doesn't matter if you are religious or not, a smart person will still recognize that everyone of faith will feel that THEIR religion is the true one...
Also, doesn't it come off a bit insecure, or even passive-aggressive to have to reaffirm everyone you talk to that your belief is the only true way?
@ His statement was obviously true, everyone feels their religion is correct. Regardless of if a person’s smart or not, it’s pretty obvious. Christians say this all the time, the one true gospel, it’s super common to hear this. I’m only pointing out that, it’s odd for John to rebuke him on that, especially given the fact that he believes that the gospels are exclusively true.
Just one of those things where, if John isn’t Christian, just say it, then him making the rebuke makes sense. Otherwise he just sounds like he’s play-acting Christian-which bothers me more than if he were just upfront.
@nicklowe_
No one should have to prove their faith to anyone else, especially a stranger. Why do you think Christians, or anyone for that matter feel the need to tell us in the same breath that their religion is the only true one? It's either an argument or some weird dog whistle to upset people of other faiths.
As for John, I think its awesome that he respects other religions even if he does not believe in them. But that respect must come from his understanding that others follow their faith for the same, or similar reasons as himself.
@nicklowe_
Think about it like this: Let's say you introduce yourself to me, and tell me that the gospel is the one true faith. I then introduce myself, and say that Allah is the one true King... What are we doing?
Ooh not professional to say that thing about everyone thinks they have the true faith. Yikes.
But it’s true?….nobody knows
He’s right tho? Not sure why you’re triggered over that comment.🤔
My appeal to every Muslim, my brother or sister, the owner of the channel, I know that it is not my right to comment on your channel, but God is my witness that our circumstances are harsh and forced me to do this. Please forgive me. My brother, there is still a brotherhood of faith. I asked you for a bag of flour. My brother, we women cannot go out among men. There is still a woman with you. My brother, God has honored you. You are men. We are women. We cannot go out or work like you. My brother, where is the brotherhood of faith in your hearts? We are women. There is no brotherhood, no mercy, no compassion, no humanity. And give good tidings to the patient. It is the greatest hope while waiting for what we want. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' How many times I called and talked and tried hard, but no one responded. Oh man, we are with you. My mother ordered us food from the restaurant. Moreand today. My mother left. Crying. She said, Why are you crying, my mother? She said, My daughter, I ask. God, that I may be honored by death. She said, Why, my mother. She cursed us. She said, "My daughter, today the restaurant owner insulted me. I said, 'Why?' I said, 'How can I be better than people?' I ask God, my daughter. May God gather me. With death alone, a gathering that is better than this humiliation and this humiliation. It is true. I am saying this. It diminishes my value and respect. But, man. I swear to God that I did not say this. I kiss your boots. I am so hungry that my conscience no longer allows me to let you go and ask us for food. I kiss your boots, man, and I ask you by God Almighty and in the Book of God, man, I kiss your boots, man. He has caused us harm, my brother, so that we can buy a kilo of flour and pay the rent. My brother, have mercy on us. He who is in the show will have mercy on you, He who is in the sky. My brother, this is my WhatsApp number: 00967772168484. Whoever can help us,message me on WhatsApp. We will send him the full name. He will transfer us as much as he can. May Allah reward you. Allah knows that my family and I, our house rent is 15 thousand Yemeni riyals per month, and now we owe 45 thousand for 3 months. The owner of the house is one of those people who do not have mercy. By Allah, my brother, he comes every day and humiliates us and talks about us and wants to throw us out of the house and into the street because we were unable to pay him the rent. We will have until the end of the week, and if we pay him, he will swear by Allah that he will throw us out into the street without mercy. See my situation for yourselves. I ask you by Allah, the Living, the Eternal, to help me. By Allah, the Almighty, even at night we cannot sleep from fear. We do not have mattresses or blankets to warm ourselves from the cold. Everything is flooded from the rain, and we have no one but Allah and then you. My brothers, I kiss your boots, don’t turn me awayempty-handed. Help us with whatever you can. Is it acceptable to you that we live in this place? We are girls and we have no one. Our father died in a car accident. Consider us your daughters and your honor, and help me with whatever you can. May God reward you with good =>[[}>] ^][/&;;&;&&;•̥·-•.,¸-•.,¸°·̮ •̥·°,.•¯,.•¯,;;;.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.≪∫⌈,.------------------------------،-------،-&;&//&&----------،------💔......
In your ego trip, you said a whole lot of nothing
Bro, you’re scaring people loll
This guy is a secret homosexual and not the smartest person in the partnership
Lolll what is the “true gospel”? When I was a Jehovah witness, they used to call it “the truth” 🫠