I'm a PPF installer. (And detailer) Its always worth it if the job is done correctly. The cost is reasonably high, sure, but the protection is high - for the comments about "you can paint it for the same price" - sure, that may be true, but in my experience you cannot get the same durability or stone chip resistance from aftermarket paint jobs, not to mention usually there are obvious signs of a respray. This also means that respray outside of the car manufacturers dealer network void the paint/corrosion warranty and furthermore, many enthusiasts want a car with factory OEM paint. Also, PPF will prevent small car park scrapes and scuffs and the film can be peeled off and replaced in many cases and also prevents against vandalism. I dont recommend full car coverage in most instances, just front end, and sill/side skirts. You can tell cars that have PPF installed (and then removed) vs cars which have not had PPF at all. It's a huge amount of protection. As for cost, in the UK I charge typically around £1400 for full front end protection using SunTeks top of the line REACTION self healing film (12 year warranty) and inbuilt ceramic. That is front bumper, front fenders, headlights, A pillar and hood. The film cost for the installation is approximately £600. Then it takes around 10-15 hours to print the patterns, prep the car (most of the time is in removing trims, grills, and cleaning everything 15 times over!!) , the install itself, and heat lock all edges. Plus we have to account for our business insurance, our work shop, the plotter (£7000 alone!) plus we need to also account for our 💯 satisfaction plus if there is an issue in the future then we need to potentially re print a panel. Then we need a little bit of money left over to pay ourselves a living wage! (Please see some videos on my channel for showing the self healing properties and also the video of the BMW showing installation process.) There was a comment saying that even pattern films you need to cut and this is risky - this is not true. I've just installed PPF to a Porsche Boxster and didn't have to trim ANYTHING. The blade didn't come out at all - If the pattern and installation is good, there is no need for trimming in most cases. Some installations need trimming, or custom fit jobs, but this again can be done with suitable care and no marks on the paint...most of the time you trim off the car. 😊 Happy to answer any questions anyone may have!
@angelocatoy9265 no I mean what would be called the side skirts or maybe you refer to them as sills (the panels under the doors between the wheels). Some cars like the Porsche Taycan you can install lower half doors without creating an obvious installation line due to the body angle. But typically dont install half doors as it can be more obvious of an installation line.
What about full doors? My car parks at a tight parking spot and so my neighbour constantly "touches" my doors with his doors. This does leave the lacquer chips. Would the PPF (ex. Llumar Valor) protect the lacquer from chipping?
Here is my take 1. Ppf still possibly get damaged by rockchip. 2. Even with precut ppf, cutting is necessary, you your paint could get damaged from it, you just won’t see it until you remove the ppf 3. You could full repaint a car with price of ppf from reputable shop Unless you have some collectable car, its waste of money
This intro was trippy. I grew up on Salisbury beach and used to manage a hotel in Hamptoon but haven't been back in 20 years or so. That intro immediately put me back.
That's awesome! It's always cool to watch a video that takes place in a place you know. Happens to me every once in a while (not so often here in New England), but I love when it does!
I work for Great Lakes Clear Bra in Grand Rapids, MI and we give XPEL warranty cards with all of our jobs. Basically means if you ever have a problem with the film you can take that card to any XPEL installer and they will replace it as long as it falls within the warranty. Having to go back to the dealership you bought your car from could be a problem if you move or what not. Highly recommend asking about the warranty slip XPEL should’ve given you at the time of the install. Glad you like the film! Stuff is bulletproof!
@lewislevits1193 you paid $5k for a front???? Somebody got you real good. No way should the front half of a car be anywhere near $5k unless its some type of exotic. Also its not as easy as “just stay a safe distance from the car in front of you”. There are crazy drivers who will cut you off, slam on brakes, etc. You cant help it no matter how safe of a driver you’re trying to be.
I would! What I would do is fill in those chips and get it wrapped. Many chips and scratches are preventable. The film won’t stop everything but those light scratches and small chips almost every car has can be stopped. My recommendation is to get the front half of your vehicle done. That is where everybody looks for “imperfections” with a vehicle. Also where your vehicle is going to take the most abuse on the road
What kind of vehicle? Are they wrapping all the edges they can? Full front meaning hood, fenders, bumper, headlights, and mirror, right? See if they’ll do your A-pillars as well. 2350 isnt a terrible price but depends on the vehicle.
I thought about getting ppf for the front bumper and hood of a new car but they were asking for $1500. I'm in a fortunate situation where my father owns an auto repair/paint business and he said we could paint the hood and bumper 3 times for that. If you get any dents/damage, they charge more to remove the ppf and then fix it, then you have to get the ppf done again.
Hi Playa from the Himalayas, My concerns with that approach are paint match over time, especially if the car's paint changes at all, and until you get the respray the car doesn't look so great with visible chips. My car looks immaculate to this day. It's not for everyone, and it is pricey (the biggest downside), however I'm really happy with the results, and any car I buy going forward I'm doing the whole car. Have a nice day, -Fred
In 2005 I bought a new MB SLK350. I decided to go with front 3M PPF because that was all that was available. In 2017 (12 years later) the film was slightly yellowing but not really noticeable, however there were many rock chips in the film. Basically, the film turns slightly whiter where a rock hit it. I called a detailer and was told about $500 to remove, so decided to try myself. The film came off very easily and in about 2 hours I was done. Most pieces came off in one sheet but lower bumper the film was more shredded and it took a while scraping using a plastic library card and some adhesive remover and then waxing everything. I did not use a blow dryer or hot water or steam. The paint was like new!!! This year I sold the car and was able to obtain way above KBB price due to the paint looking new. The PPF easily paid for itself. Mt new car will get full cover.
That's awesome Gordon, I love hearing stories like this! Time will tell if XPEL yellows over time or not, but either way, like you said it should be pretty easily removable and more importantly it protects the paint very well. Thanks for reaching out, this is awesome to hear! :) Have a nice day! -Fred
@@doriangray2347 Take a look at KBB values (2005 SLK350) and the difference between what is considered Very Good condition and Excellent condition. The main difference is paint touch up and body work. The price difference is $2000 and that is more than I paid for PPF. My trade in was > $18,000
@@gordonb216 one that is horrible is worse but there is no difference in market value of rock chips vs no chips. And definitely not $3000. Normally $500. I do a lot of car sales stuff. Everyone has their body guy who works it out for cheap
@@doriangray2347 If there is no difference in market value then your argument is with KBB rather than me. I am quoting the $2000 price difference KBB mentions however I obtained much more than that.
I do ppf myself, for 300usd precut front and several place that known to get rockchip. People who buy after you won’t be pay extra for ppf installations. They are interesting of getting lowest price as possible as a second hand car. Better to use money car wash subscription to wash away salt and not to get rust is more important.
Hi คนไทย, Thanks for reaching out. That's cool you do PPF yourself. Everyone has a different philosophy on PPF, so what works for one person, doesn't work for another. Pre-cut can be a mixed bag, because I've yet to see anything pre-cut that doesn't have gaps in coverage, whereas all my seams are folded around behind the body panels. Also, I didn't buy the car or the PPF to "save it" for top dollar if I ever choose to sell. I bought it to protect the car, full stop, and it's done that well so far. Lastly, we'll have to agree to disagree, but I would NEVER put my car through a car wash, for several reasons. Automated washes never (tires are too wide for the rails), but more importantly that's the fastest way to get swirls in your paint. Also, Xpel requires a special soap to condition it and retain the water beading properties. It's a self healing PPF, and no car wash that I know of is using that soap. I also don't drive the car on roads treated with salt, and specifically wait till there've been 3-4 big rain storms after winter to clear sand/salt from the roads before I take it out. I get the point you're making though, and as I said it's not for everyone. Buying a $74k car, I didn't see spending another $4k as a big deal, and the coverage I got was top notch, plus it has a lifetime warranty on the PPF. I also have a reservation in on a C8 Z06, which I'll be doing a full Xpel PPF on as well. Anyway, hope you have a nice day! -Fred
Thanks for posting your Vid. I’m currently trying to decide on ppf vs ceramic coating based on cost. Just ordered a blackwing so I need to decide on which product to go with. Congrats on your Vette AND choosing a manual! I can only imagine how fun it is to drive.
Hi Mike, Thanks for reaching out, and BIG congrats on the new blackwing! By all accounts, an absolutely fantastic car! Which color did you go for? Perhaps I can offer a bit of perspective beyond my video, or at least from my own experience. Some of the biggest plusses I've heard of for ceramic coating is that they help keep cars clean, longer. Dust sticks less, water beads off, etc. I've also heard claims (that I can't prove/disprove) that it also can protect from rocks, sticks, pebbles, and any other road grit that hit the paint/car. Given that it's an applied coating, I suspect that to be true. My question would be how much protection? Also, does it "wear off" evenly over time (as I've heard you need it re-applied periodically), or will there be thick and thin spots depending on wind/water on the car? If it does wear unevenly (basically if it doesn't just slowly evaporate), and another layer is applied, are certain parts thicker and thicker over time as old layers haven't worn in those areas? Those are some of the questions I had for myself. As far as PPF, I looked at it by what my goals were. It was honestly just protect the car/paint. Secondary was it looking good, and it's honestly exceeded every expectation. Hopefully my video captured how close you have to look to even identify the car as having XPEL. I've had multiple friends tell me they could identify PPF'd cars easily, and without telling them mine was, they had to be very very close, and know where the seams were to tell. When I got it, I didn't realize that the soap was hydrophobic once it dries on the car (it's a no-rinse soap specific for XPEL). Side note, check out the video I recently did on it (within the last 3 months), and it shows you how easy the cleaning is. So water doesn't stick to the car, and it washes much easier than without. I credit that more to the surfactants in the soap than the XPEL, but if you're going to PPF the car, you'll want to use a soap that conditions and protects the PPF, so the water repelling is a bonus. Dust does stick to the car, but no more (as far as I can tell) than a non PPF car. One really nice benefit is that you don't have to sweat every bit of dust, and rotate towels, etc.. when you clean the car. The PPF keeps that paint looking great, and after 5 years with the car, I have seen no evidence of scratching. Not sure if that's due to the self healing that the premium XPEL I have has. Lastly, the impact protection, for the times you don't expect to need it are the number one reason I picked it, and now swear by it. I don't push my luck. I drive in general on open back roads and the track. I don't tailgate, I leave space and pass if I can't. And yet, several times beyond my control rocks or debris was kicked up in a freak thing (like the dump truck story I think I mentioned in the video). While I know that PPF saved my bacon in that case, I'm less sure that multiple highway speed sharp impacts on the leading edges of the car would have been safely deflected by Ceramic. Maybe, but I can't speak to that from experience. I'm a few years down the list with my C8 Z06 reservation, but when I get it, the only thing I'm going to do is XPEL the whole car. Hope this helps, -Fred PS - 30 min (tops) washes are a nice plus, I don't do anything fancy if you check out the other video. Hope this helps you decide. Congrats again on the car!
@@FredsFullThrottle Thank you so much for your add’l insight, much appreciated. I went with the Satin Steel color. And thx for the referral on your other vid on the car washing, I’ll be sure to check it out!
@@MS-li5tp Nice, I'm glad the info was helpful! Let me know once you have it what you think! Would love to see pics too. My email is in the about section of my youtube channel (you have to click a button to see the address). Have a nice day, and thanks for reaching back out! -Fred
@@MS-li5tp I just order a Blackwing also. I traded by 2019 C7 Grand Sport. I had on ceramic coating on my C7. But, I am researching if it work it for the BW. Never had chips on my C7. I was always cautious when driving and following behind others.
@@FredsFullThrottle Awesome infor. I am getting a dark blue Ferrari. I will get Xpel + Ceramic coating. Don’t want to walk naked. If it really does get yellow which it should I can always get it off. Main reason is I don’t want to get swellings.
I try to drive my car as much as I can, during my free time. I don't think it took away from the video at all, did you? It gave me an opportunity to show the PPF in the sunlight, and to show that you can't tell visually that it's on the car.
I was quoted $1650 for a full front + hood Xpel Ultimate installation on a blue IS500. Awesome installer (got my tints from them). I'm worried about swirl marks, sap, and bird droppings. Not so much rock chips. Should I do it?
Hi Jr. Science Bros, Thanks for reaching out! Price sounds pretty reasonable to me, about 1/3 of the car (including the most detailed part, the front), and it's about 1/3 of what I'd expect for a whole car Xpel. On to your questions. Quick context, I can only speak to my own experience. So I've had my car just over 5 years, and the finish on the Xpel remains pretty much flawless. There's one little "nick" in it on the front bumper from where a rock hit it, but it didn't get all the way through to the paint. Otherwise the finish looks great. As far as swirl marks, I have none, however an important qualification for that is that I've always hand washed my car from day one, and never have used a car wash (touchless or otherwise). I also use the Xpel specific soap, which is supposed to help with the life of the Xpel. My understanding is that most swirl marks are due to automated car washes (not touchless), and the brushes rubbing across the car and dragging grit/dust across the paint. Since I don't use a car wash, I don't know if I don't have them just because of that, or if the Xpel would be resistant to those marks. I will say that I don't worry about using a perfectly clean towel when drying the car, and have never noticed any marks, even if the towel was visibly dirty. If your installer is skilled, they may be able to tell you if the Xpel finish will swirl, or some googling online might tell you how it fares with car washes. That said, if you're talking about for the paint, and not the Xpel, then yes, Xpel will completely protect the paint. In fact, enough so that if you ever pulled it off, you'd notice a significant difference in the front of the car versus the non-Xpel'd parts. As far as sap and bird droppings, Xpel will protect the car, no question. One thing I can't speak to though is how the Xpel will hold up under repeated barrages of either substance. I don't really park my car outside much at all, and the little bits of stuff I've washed off have left no marks, but I don't know if I've ever had bird droppings or sap on the car. I will say that bug splatter does come off without any indication it was ever there. With sap or bird droppings I'd wonder if over time anything in those would eat at the plastic of the Xpel, but if you wash off the obvious stuff as you notice it (versus leaving it on for weeks), I don't imagine you'd have any issues. Again, something your installer may be able to answer for you. Long story short, I think Xpel will certainly protect the paint for all 3 examples, and the price sounds good, however I can't offer much advice on how the finish of the Xpel will hold up to those 3 things, since I don't have experience with them. Hope this helps in some way, good luck! -Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle Thanks so much for your thorough reply!! I was also wondering if PPF on the lower bumper and fenders would protect from scrapes caused by high curbs when parking or steep driveways. These are the types of incidents I've encountered commonly in the past.
@@jr.sciencebros.8411 No prob! I think it offers *some* protection from curbs, but only from a door opening into it (if it's not opened hard). If you drive into a curb, even if you just brush against it, there's nowhere for the car to "give" a bit, and I think it would scrape through. My best advice there is to just go very carefully/slowly near curbs, to avoid brushing them. For doors opening into it, I think it would help if it was opened slowly, but PPF isn't really designed for protection from that, so it may not help too much. Good luck!
….in general, PPF install is considered grossly overpriced project…to the point it’s like a total cash grab. I mean the level of “job responsibility” in PPF install should NOT command such high pay/price tag. I actually did my own PPF install after a couple months of research and studied various techniques from installers. In the end, I saved a few thousands for a long Hawaii vacation and home improvements!
Hi Bluestone Metallic, Thanks for reaching out. Deciding it's worth it to each individual is all about cost/benefit analysis. I'm not saying it make sense for everyone, but when you weigh your options for many people it might make sense. For example, I have a lifetime warranty, and if it ever starts to yellow, crack, peel up, I can go to an Xpel installer, and have them remove and reapply panels at no cost. In the short term that may not be needed (hasn't yet in 5+ years), but longer term, that might be viable. The second piece there is time. I did look at applying it myself, but when I did, I found that there is a considerable amount of skill and time required to do it right. Just like doing tile work in my house, I could certainly do it (and did on my first tile project), but it would take me longer, I'd likely make at least a few little mistakes, and it wouldn't come out as good as someone whose job is to install it. You mention months of research and study, and I'm imagining a fair bit of time to do your whole car. Now take the hourly rate your time is worth to you, whatever it is. $50/hour, $100/hour, etc... Multiply that times the hours you spent doing your homework, learning technique, deciding on which product, ordering, installing, etc... That's the opportunity cost (in time) that you spent. For me, my time is worth more to me than the money, so it wasn't unreasonable for what I wanted. I had it installed before I even took delivery on the car (right at the dealership), so other than the roughly $3.5-4k, I didn't even notice the time. Ultimately that was the biggest reason I wanted a professional installer to do it. I try to be careful with broad all encompassing comments like "is considered grossly overpriced", or that it's a total cash grab. Considered by who? Are these people experts? Have they tried the various options on different cars and compared the results? Which factors matter most to them?(money, time, quality, etc...) I do think the cash grab statement is discounting the skill it takes to do the work. Just like a scalpel in a hospital is a $20 piece of steel, the cost of your surgery is largely for the experience and skill that the surgeon has. I'm obviously oversimplifying a bit, but I'm under no illusions that what I paid was for the material itself, it was for the skill and expertise of the installer, and the warranty backing their work. There are specifically some intricate parts of the car, notably the air intakes above the rear fenders and by the bottom of the door that require some very precise cutting to do in a way with minimal seams and full coverage. I've seen a lot of bad installs, very few really well done ones, and not one of the really good ones was someone doing it themselves. I'll put it this way, most people when they see my car in person don't believe me that it's Xpel'd if I haven't told them, and several have asked me to prove it, so I lift the hood and show them the seams underneath. Either way, I'm glad you got a trip to Hawaii from your savings, and for you the balance of the cost may not have been worth it. For me, it was worth it. Have a nice day, thanks for reaching out! -Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle Just an fyi Xpel PPF has a 10 year warranty on the film. Not lifetime. I have run into dealerships telling customers that. Also its nut to me you got a full body ppf wrap on a Corvette for $3,600. That's less then half of what most shops charge (in most areas). The warranty is only valid if they are an authorized Xpel install center.
@@jacobrocha5734 Thanks for the info. I went to XPEL's site, and sure enough it does say 10 years. Yeah, the price was pretty good, though at the time felt like a lot (this was my first fancy car and I didn't know anything about PPF at the time). I think it's about $6k now at the same dealer, I will be having them do it when my Z06 comes in, and can do an updated video about it. Agreed on the authorized installer requirement, MacMulkin contracts out to licensed installers so no issues there. I've been super pleased, the car still looks brand new. The XPEL has held up amazingly well in what will soon be 5 years of ownership (the car is a 2017 I bought new in January of '17). It's got a few minor nicks in it, but the paint is immaculate and none of the nicks are visible from further away than a few inches. No yellowing, no peeling, no clouding. I always wash it with XPEL conditioner soap, so I think that probably helps, plus I wash the car every couple dimes I drive it. Anyway, thanks for reaching out! -Fred
@@jacobrocha5734agree with that. Was just quoted $1900 + tax just to do front bumper, hood, mirrors and pillars. No way could I get full protection for $3600!
Would you apply wax overtop the ppf? My car is 100% covered with ppf and am considering waxing it. If yes, what is the best way to apply it. The installer did not use computer cut pieces. Everything was custom cut and wrapped around leading edges.
Thanks for this video! I have swirls and rock chip on my black bmw X5 and it drives me crazy. I wanted the whole car but it’s so pricey so I’m thinking about doing what you did and just ceramic coating the car because it helps reducing the swirls. Also they have things for the window that helps water to bounce off of it, I’m wondering if you got that too?
For that kind of money (Turbo S money), I absolutely would. Heck, any car above about $50k and I would personally, though depending on the vehicle maybe just front bumper, hood, leading edges. But for that 992 Turbo S, yeah, absolutely. That's just my opinion though, if you skim the comments on this video you'll see a bunch of people who think it's a rip off, but my own experience it's more than paid for itself. Side note, drove a 992 Turbo S at PEC ATL and fell in love. Dream car for me for sure, even over a GT3, just don't have the means to afford one. Congrats!
@@lynnm5721that's awesome! I'm glad it was helpful and love the update! :) Enjoy the car for many years to come! If you ever find yourself near NH and need someone to ride shotgun, I'd be happy to help! :) Congrats again! The 992 Turbo S is my dream car. :)
@@MC-ie8xl thanks for reaching out! I think for a daily the front bumper, hood, and mirrors is probably all you generally would need. Those are the most "high impact" areas, and you don't have fenders in the back that stick out to need more than that. I did the same for my 22' Tacoma TRD Pro. Congrats on the new car, hope this helps!
Yeah, that's part of the reason I didn't go full car. Adding the parts I didn't get put it a couple thousand higher. I went with everywhere I could reasonably guess that a rock could hit. The way I rationalize it is that I plan to keep the car a long time (can't believe it's already been 6 years!), and that I spent X amount to buy it, that it'd be silly not to protect my investment at least a bit.
Hi CJ, So those are paddles, but not for shifting. On the automatic cars, yes they're used for shifting. On the manual cars, they are used for turning on/off rev match (which is what I have). Rather than design 2 different steering columns, my assumption is that it was to save cost with one design, and just repurpose the paddles. Both paddles in my car say "rev match", and you can use either one to activate or deactivate. On the automatic cars, there's a minus on the left one, and a plus on the right one. Hope that helps! -Fred
I appreciate you sharing your experience with Xpel PPF, brother. I elected to go with a full front coverage on my Tesla (front end: bumper, headlights, fog lights, entire hood, side mirrors) and short sections protecting the forward end of the rear fenders. Like you, I experienced getting hit by some road debris that got kicked up by big movers on the interstate and was saved by the PPF. I'm debating whether I should cover the remainder of the vehicle topped with an added layer of ceramic coating. At the end of the day it's just a car, but I do like to take care of my stuff and keep it pristine as long as possible. Still, that's a lot of money to spend on protecting a depreciating asset and life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Knowing me, I'll probably end up spending more money for the added protection. I guess we'll see.
My pleasure man, glad you found it helpful! That's so great to hear that your PPF protected your car as well! I'm with you, I realize that no matter the effort, a car will generally depreciate, and get little signs of wear and tear (enjoyment in my mind). Overall I'm not going to sweat it, like you said. Thanks for reaching out, and thanks for the kind words! Have a nice weekend man! -Fred
I have a 23 Stingray coming in next couple weeks (at code 3k). Dealer prices I thought were fair $3500 for front and sides.... My question is: after x amount of years how good does it look? Is it still clear or is there hazing? Ceramic on top PPF thoughts? How long do you see it lasting? Has your car seen any bad weather?
Hi Mrswizl, Congrats on the new car! Honestly, I'm shocked how well it's held up. The car looks just as fresh as when this video was filmed, and as of right now I've had the car 5.5 years and it had Xpel installed before I took delivery. The car is garage kept always, and I tend to drive in nice weather, but have definitely driven in rain (as recently as this past Sunday coming back from an autocross so the car was already pretty dirty with grit, brake dust, bugs, and then I got at least 20 minutes in heavy downpour on the highway. The film is still completely clear, though I don't know if that's abnormal since it's not sitting out in the UV sunlight all the time. I personally didn't see a need for ceramic on top, and still don't. I think in this video (going off memory) I did a walkaround of the car, and a few things strike me. First, is that unless you are inches away from a seam (of which there are few), you can't tell visually the car is wrapped. And secondly, the car looks amazing, and all the luster/shine/sparkles of the paint come right through. Everywhere I go I get compliments and people taking pics. Ceramic might make it look even shinier, but the fact that Ceramic "wears out", and is fairly expensive, and just doesn't provide enough advantages for me to consider it. In short, the car looks great, the PPF has held up incredibly well (no edges peeling or sections needing replacement so far), I don't see the value in it. A big part of this is likely that I always use the Xpel soap when I wash the car, and I wash the car after every 2-3 drives. Doesn't take long (I did a video on it in my backlog), and water beads right off. Even in the rain the other day, the water didn't stick to the car. You ask a good question about longevity, and I don't really know the answer. I'm 5.5 years in, with not a single sign of the PPF needing any replacement sections or a warranty call. I am very comfortable saying it lasts "at least 5 years with proper care", but don't know if it's 8, 10, 12 or more. I'll put it this way. I have a reservation on a C8 Z06, which I plan to do a FULL car Xpel install on, and nothing else. No ceramic. I've been so thoroughly impressed by what Xpel does for the car, and the protection it offers, that I wouldn't even consider another brand. At first I thought the cost was high, but now realize it was totally worth it, and won't even flinch when I get it installed on the Z06. Hope this helps, -Fred
6k for whole car, I may have a closer guy however that may be cheaper and reputable. I was told that the $3500 package pretty much covers all bases. 6-8 weeks to go for me and she comes home
@@lazsosa8711 car was done weeks ago… What I’ve learned, PPF comes down to who’s installing it. Huge bottom line. Also Ceramic coating PPF is definitely the way to go. Ceramic just makes cleaning easy (you will fight break dust). I’m wrapped in suntek (ceramic infused) making car look like it has 10mm of clear coat (sick!!!). PPF has saved 2 good scratches that I watched heal itself (it works). Worth it if you plan on keeping car.
@mrswizl I figured once I noticed the the date comment posted. Well hope you enjoy it also look up scrape armor grill guards and bottom protector just installed them at the dealer today. Really worth it
I have a Ducati motorcycle they asked me 1500-2000 to wrap the gas tank, front& rear fairing and one headlight. 😅 Ultimately Decided to do a vinyls wrap to change a color of my bike and wrap PPF only on the headlight and it was 500$ much cheaper. Plus I only ride a couple time a month so I guess it was not for me.
Hi Chanh! Thanks for reaching out! I'm a Ducati guy myself, my last 2 have been a Hypermotard 821, and a Streetfighter 848. Next Spring I'm getting a Hyper 950. Anyway, I don't think I'd worry about PPF'ing a bike. Maybe if you were really worried the leading edges of the fairing (depending on which model you have, like a Panigale), but I've owned about 15 bikes and have never PPF'd a bike, and have never had issues. The thing is that bikes tend to be higher up off the road (or at least the fragile bits), whereas my car is just inches above the pavement. PPF'ing the headlight isn't a bad idea, especially if you have a Monster or a Diavel, since it's a single large housing. Anyway, have a nice day! -Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle My bike was a Ducati Scrambler Cafe Racer It's really interesting to hear from your perspective to not PPF'ing a bike. Cause I am one of those dudes that would get a headache over a small scratch on a bike/ car. I was exploring different options from ceramic coating to ppf, etc...after seeing some scratches from the side gas tank panel, but did not expect it to be so expensive on a bike let alone a car. Anyway, I did get a vinyl wrap from them and they were nice enough to do some ceramic coating over the vinyl. But at the end of the day, just like you; I just want to keep my investment in fresh condition as long as I can. Interesting video! Got a sub from me.
@@chanhnguyen81 Hey man, I appreciate it, thanks! I've always taken really good care of my stuff (if you look through my videos you'll see as much). Earlier in my life, back in my 20's when my bikes were my only toys/pride and joy, I worried more about it. Now that I'm older, and my tastes have gone upmarket, I stress more over cars. That said, my last bike (SF848) wasn't in the best cosmetic condition when I bought it (used it'd sat in a parking garage for almost 2 years before me), whereas my hyper was immaculate. I totally get you, and I stress out over keeping my vehicles nice. I think one thing for me, is that all my bike riding is on roads out in the middle of nowhere or on the track, so I rarely have cars ahead of me (and if so I pass them), so I don't get really anything kicked up. The Scramblers are awesome, I've been casually cruising classified listings, and wouldn't be shocked if I end up with one as a second or third bike at some point. Love how they look and the riding position. Have a nice evening, and thanks again! -Fred
Hi Ajsprimetimefitness, Thanks for reaching out. You'll notice that video was quite a while ago (2020 I think?). I was looking for a reason to get out of the house. Earlier on in the channel, I did a fair bit of driving while talking. Looking back, they weren't scripted, were just whatever came to mind, and to me personally, were a bit all over the place. However, if you look at my recent stuff (pretty much anything in the last 8 months or so), you'll see my format has completely changed. As I've evolved and grown as a channel, I've made a lot of improvements to try to make things easier to watch, more to the point, etc... I keep the old stuff online, because it does provide value for people looking for info, but it's honestly hard to make driving videos as polished as studio/garage videos. Nevertheless, I appreciate the feedback. As far as the PPF, I cannot recommend it highly enough. I have a reservation in on a C8 Z06, and will be doing the full Xpel PPF on that car. Now that I've had it save my bacon a few times, I'd never get a nice car and not add it. I know it's a lot of money, but it's truly worth it. Hope that helps. Have a nice day! -Fred
You have to really ask around different authorized xpel installers in your area. I had to ask at least 5 local authorized xpel installers in my area and 99% of them charges $520 + tax to just put full hood xpel ultimate on my front hood. I found one guy that only charges $$390 … If you live in SE WI, I can tell you who to go with… I have 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness edition.
Hi AWGD8, Thanks for reaching out! I didn't really have a choice, because the dealership had a partnership with a local certified installer, and that's who they worked with. The benefit was that the car wasn't driven a single mile without PPF (other than the 3 or so miles at the factory), so there was less chance of scratches before getting it installed. They did the PPF right at the dealership. If I'd already taken delivery of the car I'd have done some shopping around, but such was not the case. Still, though expensive, I've more than gotten my money's worth. When my C8 Z06 comes in, I'm doing the full car this time, instead of 75% of it (roof and doors were the only parts not done). Have a nice day! -Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle Definitely understandable! Funny thing is, back in 2008 I had an Infiniti dealership put PPF on my EX35 crossover and it was installed by the dealership contracted 3rd party PPF installer. I personally met the installer. Fast forward to 2022, when I was checking out prices , I found the guy and I mentioned to this specific PPF that he installed my PPF back in 2008, maybe that’s the reason I got at least $100 savings vs the competition. 😀
@@DacAL_8 Haha, that's awesome! This is an everyone wins situation. If you like their work, then you have a trusted, quality installer, and on their side, they get a repeat customer (who may also recommend them to friends). Everyone wins! This time around, I definitely plan to meet the installer and be a bit more aware. I didn't ask many questions last time, and honestly was a bit naïve going in, but have learned a lot since then. Have a nice day! -Fred
Iike everything else it depends on if u have the extra $. Any "done right" PPF is gonna be $5K for basic front/full hood and then....the Ceramic(so thats $2500+$2000).....$5K is a hell of a lot of $ for most "normal folks'. As cars are routinely having more and more problems in the first 3 years..... to drop $5K extra is truly a luxury. Insurance is going up, car prices going up, maintenance getting more complicated and going up and more people will get Repo'd this year than ever before. If u got the $ get it but most people do not have an extra $5-10K after just buying a new car my friends.
I have a new Rav4 Prime from factory coming in a few weeks. I have been considering PPF and ceramic coating however it is pretty pricy. Do you think it’s worth it for the whole car to be PPF? Or just the front and rear?
Hi Lily, Congrats on the new car, that's exciting! For a car like the Corvette, especially where it's so low to the ground, and in the line of fire behind other cars' rear tires, I felt it was good to cover most of the car. For a car like the Rav4 Prime, I think you could do the front bumper, hood, mirrors, and likely that's all you'd need. I don't know you'd get much value doing the back of the car, as generally nothing hits the back of a car high speed, unless you're thinking for like shopping carts or something. Agreed PPF is quite expensive, but I can honestly say in my experience it's been worth it. One other thought would be how long you plan to keep the car. My Vette is 5 years old and looks brand new. If you're planning to keep the car long term, then it will help keep it looking new much longer, and an added benefit is that it makes it easier to clean (if you use the right soap). I made a video on washing a car with PPF if that's helpful: ruclips.net/video/SOUXi5vbd2Y/видео.html Good luck, and thanks for reaching out! -Fred
I should add, that for me personally, ceramic doesn't seem worth it. I have a new C8 Z06 reservation, and when I get the car I only plan to PPF the entire car, no ceramic coating. That's just me though ,and I know some people really like Ceramic coatings, but I'm not sold on it.
@@FredsFullThrottle thank you for the quick response! And I acknowledge it’s not a super car and probably complete PFF is overall - you’re right it’s not a lot car. I do live right in the city and park in a garage so rear bumper I think will be helpful. I think I will skip on the ceramic! And I’ll be sure to check out how to wash PPF ☺️
Nice! The Xpel I have has a 10 year warranty as well. Not sure if it's hydrophobic, but I know the soap I use contributes. Water beads right off so it's very easy to dry. To be honest I didn't look at other brands, since Xpel is what my dealership offered, and their installers had done hundreds of Corvette's, but I've heard that Suntek is good too! Have you had good luck with Suntek?
@@FredsFullThrottle The only difference I've noticed is that with Suntek a permanent marker doesn't stick at all just wipes off with a tissue, but with Xpel I needed alcohol wipes to get it off, by the way, your corvette looks and sounds awesome!!
I think I might be sold on the PPF, they quoted me for $1950 for just the front but I’m trying to haggle the price. I have a 2023 Toyota GR 86 10th Anniversary Edition. My question is, if I only put the front, do you think it’ll create a difference in due time from the rest of the car? Dirt would stick to the other half and the rear but the front would be protected. It’ll sort of create a “tan line” and my OCD would kick in, it’ll just look messy. The full body is $2950. Now I’m just a regular guy who don’t make a lot of money which is why I want to protect my first brand new car. That does sound a bit much. Speaking of that, since you have the warranty, how many times can they change it? Like “oh I have a tiny rock hole here, fix it for free” to anywhere from in the U.S. ? Sounds too good to be true. I feel like they’d still charge you something. Thanks for the informative video!
On a GR I would do the full body. That is going to be a JDM classic. I have a Kona N and I'm thinking of doing the whole thing. I don't think it will be a classic but I'm still thinking about it.
This is a great idea, I have to wash the car right now (did a 505 mile drive the other day), I'll get this filmed, and created. Will be a few weeks before it goes live (I have a few videos to edit before that, but stay tuned)! Thanks! -Fred
@Superchicken798 the video that went live today is the PPF care video you asked about, made specifically due to your request! Hope you enjoy or find it helpful! ruclips.net/video/SOUXi5vbd2Y/видео.html
Hi Sunnytdk1, Does the ceramic look just as good on the XPEL as on any parts of the car that aren't PPF'd? I have heard it does, but haven't seen a car in person that I know had both. I'm interested in trying it, will have to go find one in person to look at. Have a nice day, and thanks for reaching out! -Fred
Hi Russel, I don't actually know, since I don't have my doors done, and I never park near anyone unless I'm at a car show. I would think that a light ding, yes it would, based on all the rocks it's protected me from, but someone opening their door hard, I'm not sure. Probably depends a bit on where the hit is, how hard, etc... But it does a great job with gravel and pretty large rocks (half dollar sized) at speed, so I'd imagine no matter what damage happens, it's significantly less with the film.
Hi Kenny, Part of it is that I bought it 6 years ago, when I bought the car new. I also think I got a small discount (like $400 or so) because I bought it with the car as an add on, through the dealership (they paid to have an XPEL installer come onsite to do it). I also didn't do the doors or roof (can't remember if I mention that in the video), but did every other surface. Were I to do it all over again, I'd do the entire car, money was my only hesitation back then. It is super expensive, but honestly in my experience it was worth it. There's a fairly loud crowd of "it's way too much money, just get the car resprayed", but having to repaint the car every so often, worrying about paint match, and not protecting the paint so it can chip immediately after repainting are some of the big reasons why I think that's a non-starter. It is worth the money (to me at least) for flawless paint, and the car looking factory new (even now 6 years later). Plus, I've yet to meet anyone who realizes the car is wrapped unless I mention it. The number of incredulous looks I've gotten when I say that, and then I walk them over and show them is the "proof in the pudding" that it's impossible to tell visually unless you're less than 2 feet away, and even then sometimes I can't tell. Hope this helps somehow! -Fred
You can see right through it, right down to the individual flakes in the paint, and that's what it's designed to do. There are plenty of videos online of people testing PPF and sharing their results. You don't have to believe me, I'm just sharing my experience, however my experience has been that the car has zero damage/scratches/chips in the 5+ years of ownership.
I believe I got a discount because I bought the Corvette to go with the Xpel... Joking aside, I don't know what the current pricing is like, coming up on 6 years ago that I purchased the car.
Hahahaha, that might explain how indestructable KITT was! Tonzel, thanks for reaching out, and glad you've had a similar great experience. The cost up front had me question it a little, but honestly after a few of those instances where I needed it, I'm a million percent sold. It's going on any car I get going forward. Have a great day! -Fred
I never said that it never has to be replaced. However, in my experience I've only got 2 small nicks in it from stones in 7 years of ownership, and the nicks don't go all the way through. At some point I'll have it checked, but honestly it holds up amazingly well.
I feel like doing the whole car is pointless. Im not a huge fan of PPF but do have some on my c7 corvette. The only places ppf is really needed is the front bumper, headlights, front fender, and side mirror and hood and near the brake vent by the rockers. Everywhere else is no point at all and a waste of money in my opinion. I think ppf is way to overpriced to. Ive had my bumper repainted and if you take it to a really good shop its matched 100% perfect no way you can even tell it was repainted. The cost of ppf for a whole car i might as well get the whole car repainted 🤣🤣
I agree to disagree. :) 10 minutes out of a paint shop and you can get rock chips. As I mentioned in the video, at least 2 different times where the whole bumper would have been chipped up by rocks/gravel on the highway. The paint and look stays mint the entire time of ownership. Paint matching while good these days, always has the chance of slight variation with the panels you're trying to match. Aftermarket/repainting lowers value (if that matters to an owner). Also, I have not yet met a person in person who has seen my car and could tell it had PFF, and when I tell them, most are shocked, and want to see a seam behind the edges. I agree it's expensive, but see it as a small price to pay for protecting the paint for the life of the car, and will happily buy it for any other sports/supercars I buy. Also, the product itself is not expensive, what you're paying for is the labor from a skilled installer to install it perfectly, without bubbles, warping, tears, or lifting edges. There is a huge difference in price from a good installer and a crappy one. You're paying a skilled person to do what they're good at. I have yet to see someone say they payed way less and actually have it look good...you get what you pay for. It's not for everyone, totally agree, and I do agree that the only "must have" parts are the leading edges as you mentioned. However, for the peace of mind it offers me, I'm happy to pay for the whole car. My car doesn't have it on the doors/roof, but does everywhere else. My next car will have the whole thing, and if I ever need to refresh on this one (probably around the 8-10 year mark, then I'll do the full car. I view it as cost of ownership. Just like insurance, fuel and other consumables. It's an expensive car, it costs money to own, that's part of the deal. New sets of tires are $1400 a pop minimum, and replaced every few years with mileage or track use. I like that mine looks factory new every day of the 6 years I've owned it, and would recommend it to anyone. -Fred
They asked me $3700 for full body (with roof) $98 000 car (GLC Coupe). Not too cheap, but I guess it is worth it. Especially, considering the fact, that I am going to use that car for about 6-8 years before selling it.
$3700 is a good price. I just bought a brand new 2023 Jaguar F-Type last weekend and been calling around to get prices for PPF. Average price I am getting for full car is $7k and about $2200 for just the front end. That math does not add up saying half the car is already being covered but then to do the other half it is $4800 more? Vinyl wrap average price I am getting for the full car is $4k. My car is also $100k vehicle. I wouldn't mind getting it done but the prices are outrageous and I think I will just have to settle for ceramic coating and then maybe towards the end of the year either get it wrapped in vinyl or PPF.
😎💯🔥👍🏾….I actually just got the ceramic coating on mine , I did my research & I know some Vette owner’s personally that haven’t had no issues plus it’s looks awesome, I checked into XPel but just too expensive for me…lol…but I do like it though ….your C7GS looks great…..I have a 2019 C7 GS…had it only a few weeks now….loving it
Congrats on the GS man! Fantastic car, you're going to love growing into the car and all the driving you'll do! I love the look of ceramic coating, might try it at some point too! Have a nice day! -Fred
Hi Jesus, Thanks for reaching out! You're not wrong, that said, with a lifetime warranty if I ever need it removed or replaced, I'd just have a professional Xpel installer do the removal. But, for the protection it offers, totally worth it. Have a nice day! -Fred
Thanks for reaching out Brian! I appreciate it! I was trying to find something that captured how I felt with the hyperlapse intro footage I used driving up the coast. I use a service called Epidemic Sound for all music/sound effects and there is a plethora of things (10's of thousands) to pick from. I forget the name of the exact song, but if I remember it I can send it to you. Have a nice day! -Fred
Hi LuxGadget, I run a channel about sports cars. Sports cars are loud and not well sound damped. A lot of my earlier videos I filmed while driving. I can't recall if when this was filmed I had my separated dedicated mic, I don't think I did. When I use that, I have a low pass cutoff that drops out a lot of the low frequency droning noises. I didn't have a lot of options when I was just starting out, as I didn't have much nicer recording equipment, just a GoPro. Starting out, I did the best I could, I don't know what to tell you, no one else has really complained about the sound in the dozens of driving videos' I've released. *shrug* I'd suggest turning down the audio if it bothers you, or maybe that video just isn't right for you. I haven't been filming in the cars as much for the last year, so my more recent videos shouldn't annoy you so much. That said, I bought a bin-aural recording mic specifically for POV driving, but haven't had a chance to use it yet, so there may be more driving videos coming. Anyway, have a nice day! -Fred
STOP DRIVING!!!!, some real Final destination shts happening, next you're gonna say a bunch of pointy wood stacked on a straight bed flipped over on the highway but bounced off your hood
Hahaha, that sounds bad...glad I didn't go that route! Which model have you had with that kind of fragility? I've always liked WRX/STI's, but never got one. Is the paint decent, or thin too?
Hi Bacawaka, I definitely agree. I definitely had to think about it a bit to spend around $4k on top of all the other costs when I bought the car. That said, it's been totally worth it, and my car is in immaculate condition as a result. It sucks that it's so expensive, especially because at best your car just looks stock, but the protection is worth it (to me at least). When my C8 Z06 comes in, I'll be doing the full car, which I'm sure will be even more expensive. RIP wallet. Have a nice evening! -Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle I would totally get a ZO6 if I wasn't already making 2 car payments. How do you feel about the new high gloss color ppf that is on the market?
@@bacawaka2813 I hear ya on the car payments thing, and would hold off if I was making 2 as well. I haven't heard about the colored PPF, what brand(s) make it? I haven't done much homework since getting my car coated, but if it offers the same protection, that might be a great option for someone considering a wrap for their car, because they get the protection rolled into just one product. What are your thoughts on it? -Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle The PPF i was referring to is Flexishield. It is a cosmetic PPF that has resin paint color inside one of the layers and it has the same protection and healing properties as PPF. On metrorestyling, it is about $1600 for a 60 foot roll.
For just the front, I don't think it'll be that bad. Its been almost 2 years now with my Charger and I have rock chips and dings in my paint just from driving it. The chips are mainly in the front bumper, one on the hood, and some on my front doors, so heads up. Surprisingly none on the rear end of the car. The ones in the front bumper are the worst ones.
@@abyousocrazy358 at this point my only options are paint correction, repaint, or leave it as is. But if you're gonna get paint correction or repaint, then it'd be smart to get PPF as well. And now you can begin to see how the price is gonna add up. Yes, I do have ceramic coating but that doesn't help from chips, dings, and scratches. Ceramic coatings only help with water repelling and easier wash. (It does make it look really shiny and gorgeous). What am I gonna do about the chips? Absolutely nothing. Unless I wanna shelve out the money (10k+), I am gonna do nothing; pretend they're not there 😄. No seriously, I did get touch up paint, which is the cheap option, but it is far from perfect. A professional told me the only way to get it perfect again is to repaint the whole panel(s) and then get PPF. So... my broke a$$ is gonna leave it as is 😔. But I just tell myself "her flaws give her character". Makes it a little better if you let it bake in a little.
@@GoodKong.BadKong I feel you it’s so expensive I was quoted 6k just for the full ppf in Texas!!! I thought it would be cheaper down there. I actually got a quote today in SoCal and it was 4.8k for the full wrap and I want to delete the chrome in my car to have it all back and that’s another $1400 😭😭 so expensive the guy suggested to finance it cuz they have a promotion for one year
I'm a PPF installer. (And detailer)
Its always worth it if the job is done correctly.
The cost is reasonably high, sure, but the protection is high - for the comments about "you can paint it for the same price" - sure, that may be true, but in my experience you cannot get the same durability or stone chip resistance from aftermarket paint jobs, not to mention usually there are obvious signs of a respray.
This also means that respray outside of the car manufacturers dealer network void the paint/corrosion warranty and furthermore, many enthusiasts want a car with factory OEM paint.
Also, PPF will prevent small car park scrapes and scuffs and the film can be peeled off and replaced in many cases and also prevents against vandalism.
I dont recommend full car coverage in most instances, just front end, and sill/side skirts.
You can tell cars that have PPF installed (and then removed) vs cars which have not had PPF at all. It's a huge amount of protection.
As for cost, in the UK I charge typically around £1400 for full front end protection using SunTeks top of the line REACTION self healing film (12 year warranty) and inbuilt ceramic.
That is front bumper, front fenders, headlights, A pillar and hood.
The film cost for the installation is approximately £600. Then it takes around 10-15 hours to print the patterns, prep the car (most of the time is in removing trims, grills, and cleaning everything 15 times over!!) , the install itself, and heat lock all edges.
Plus we have to account for our business insurance, our work shop, the plotter (£7000 alone!) plus we need to also account for our 💯 satisfaction plus if there is an issue in the future then we need to potentially re print a panel. Then we need a little bit of money left over to pay ourselves a living wage!
(Please see some videos on my channel for showing the self healing properties and also the video of the BMW showing installation process.)
There was a comment saying that even pattern films you need to cut and this is risky - this is not true. I've just installed PPF to a Porsche Boxster and didn't have to trim ANYTHING. The blade didn't come out at all - If the pattern and installation is good, there is no need for trimming in most cases.
Some installations need trimming, or custom fit jobs, but this again can be done with suitable care and no marks on the paint...most of the time you trim off the car. 😊
Happy to answer any questions anyone may have!
Thanks for the insight man! Very helpful. Btw, with side skirts you mean the side door panels? Or just the lower half?
Great comment, thanks for reaching out and typing that up! - Fred
@angelocatoy9265 no I mean what would be called the side skirts or maybe you refer to them as sills (the panels under the doors between the wheels).
Some cars like the Porsche Taycan you can install lower half doors without creating an obvious installation line due to the body angle.
But typically dont install half doors as it can be more obvious of an installation line.
@@FredsFullThrottle no worries. Thanks for making the video and sharing your own opinions 👍
What about full doors? My car parks at a tight parking spot and so my neighbour constantly "touches" my doors with his doors. This does leave the lacquer chips. Would the PPF (ex. Llumar Valor) protect the lacquer from chipping?
Here is my take
1. Ppf still possibly get damaged by rockchip.
2. Even with precut ppf, cutting is necessary, you your paint could get damaged from it, you just won’t see it until you remove the ppf
3. You could full repaint a car with price of ppf from reputable shop
Unless you have some collectable car, its waste of money
Thats very true you can literall repaint the whole car fpr same price its crazy how greed has twisted humans. Full ppf shouldnt be more then 3k usd
This intro was trippy. I grew up on Salisbury beach and used to manage a hotel in Hamptoon but haven't been back in 20 years or so. That intro immediately put me back.
That's awesome! It's always cool to watch a video that takes place in a place you know. Happens to me every once in a while (not so often here in New England), but I love when it does!
I work for Great Lakes Clear Bra in Grand Rapids, MI and we give XPEL warranty cards with all of our jobs. Basically means if you ever have a problem with the film you can take that card to any XPEL installer and they will replace it as long as it falls within the warranty. Having to go back to the dealership you bought your car from could be a problem if you move or what not. Highly recommend asking about the warranty slip XPEL should’ve given you at the time of the install. Glad you like the film! Stuff is bulletproof!
@lewislevits1193 you paid $5k for a front???? Somebody got you real good. No way should the front half of a car be anywhere near $5k unless its some type of exotic. Also its not as easy as “just stay a safe distance from the car in front of you”. There are crazy drivers who will cut you off, slam on brakes, etc. You cant help it no matter how safe of a driver you’re trying to be.
@@corbinclouse9817 would you recommend ppf if I already have little stone chips on my font bumper?
I would! What I would do is fill in those chips and get it wrapped. Many chips and scratches are preventable. The film won’t stop everything but those light scratches and small chips almost every car has can be stopped. My recommendation is to get the front half of your vehicle done. That is where everybody looks for “imperfections” with a vehicle. Also where your vehicle is going to take the most abuse on the road
Got it. Yeah I ordered doctor color chip repair kit. Then imma ppf the whole front. Also, is $2350 full front ppf a fair price?
What kind of vehicle? Are they wrapping all the edges they can? Full front meaning hood, fenders, bumper, headlights, and mirror, right? See if they’ll do your A-pillars as well. 2350 isnt a terrible price but depends on the vehicle.
do rocks bounce off and prevent from chips when installing PPF ?
I thought about getting ppf for the front bumper and hood of a new car but they were asking for $1500. I'm in a fortunate situation where my father owns an auto repair/paint business and he said we could paint the hood and bumper 3 times for that. If you get any dents/damage, they charge more to remove the ppf and then fix it, then you have to get the ppf done again.
Hi Playa from the Himalayas,
My concerns with that approach are paint match over time, especially if the car's paint changes at all, and until you get the respray the car doesn't look so great with visible chips. My car looks immaculate to this day. It's not for everyone, and it is pricey (the biggest downside), however I'm really happy with the results, and any car I buy going forward I'm doing the whole car.
Have a nice day,
-Fred
In 2005 I bought a new MB SLK350. I decided to go with front 3M PPF because that was all that was available. In 2017 (12 years later) the film was slightly yellowing but not really noticeable, however there were many rock chips in the film. Basically, the film turns slightly whiter where a rock hit it.
I called a detailer and was told about $500 to remove, so decided to try myself. The film came off very easily and in about 2 hours I was done. Most pieces came off in one sheet but lower bumper the film was more shredded and it took a while scraping using a plastic library card and some adhesive remover and then waxing everything. I did not use a blow dryer or hot water or steam.
The paint was like new!!! This year I sold the car and was able to obtain way above KBB price due to the paint looking new. The PPF easily paid for itself. Mt new car will get full cover.
That's awesome Gordon, I love hearing stories like this! Time will tell if XPEL yellows over time or not, but either way, like you said it should be pretty easily removable and more importantly it protects the paint very well. Thanks for reaching out, this is awesome to hear! :)
Have a nice day!
-Fred
paint condition has a tiny impact on price. the money spent on ppf is not recouped
@@doriangray2347 Take a look at KBB values (2005 SLK350) and the difference between what is considered Very Good condition and Excellent condition. The main difference is paint touch up and body work. The price difference is $2000 and that is more than I paid for PPF.
My trade in was > $18,000
@@gordonb216 one that is horrible is worse but there is no difference in market value of rock chips vs no chips. And definitely not $3000. Normally $500. I do a lot of car sales stuff. Everyone has their body guy who works it out for cheap
@@doriangray2347 If there is no difference in market value then your argument is with KBB rather than me. I am quoting the $2000 price difference KBB mentions however I obtained much more than that.
I do ppf myself, for 300usd precut front and several place that known to get rockchip. People who buy after you won’t be pay extra for ppf installations. They are interesting of getting lowest price as possible as a second hand car. Better to use money car wash subscription to wash away salt and not to get rust is more important.
Hi คนไทย,
Thanks for reaching out. That's cool you do PPF yourself. Everyone has a different philosophy on PPF, so what works for one person, doesn't work for another. Pre-cut can be a mixed bag, because I've yet to see anything pre-cut that doesn't have gaps in coverage, whereas all my seams are folded around behind the body panels.
Also, I didn't buy the car or the PPF to "save it" for top dollar if I ever choose to sell. I bought it to protect the car, full stop, and it's done that well so far.
Lastly, we'll have to agree to disagree, but I would NEVER put my car through a car wash, for several reasons. Automated washes never (tires are too wide for the rails), but more importantly that's the fastest way to get swirls in your paint. Also, Xpel requires a special soap to condition it and retain the water beading properties. It's a self healing PPF, and no car wash that I know of is using that soap. I also don't drive the car on roads treated with salt, and specifically wait till there've been 3-4 big rain storms after winter to clear sand/salt from the roads before I take it out.
I get the point you're making though, and as I said it's not for everyone. Buying a $74k car, I didn't see spending another $4k as a big deal, and the coverage I got was top notch, plus it has a lifetime warranty on the PPF. I also have a reservation in on a C8 Z06, which I'll be doing a full Xpel PPF on as well.
Anyway, hope you have a nice day!
-Fred
Thanks for posting your Vid. I’m currently trying to decide on ppf vs ceramic coating based on cost. Just ordered a blackwing so I need to decide on which product to go with.
Congrats on your Vette AND choosing a manual! I can only imagine how fun it is to drive.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for reaching out, and BIG congrats on the new blackwing! By all accounts, an absolutely fantastic car! Which color did you go for?
Perhaps I can offer a bit of perspective beyond my video, or at least from my own experience.
Some of the biggest plusses I've heard of for ceramic coating is that they help keep cars clean, longer. Dust sticks less, water beads off, etc.
I've also heard claims (that I can't prove/disprove) that it also can protect from rocks, sticks, pebbles, and any other road grit that hit the paint/car. Given that it's an applied coating, I suspect that to be true. My question would be how much protection? Also, does it "wear off" evenly over time (as I've heard you need it re-applied periodically), or will there be thick and thin spots depending on wind/water on the car? If it does wear unevenly (basically if it doesn't just slowly evaporate), and another layer is applied, are certain parts thicker and thicker over time as old layers haven't worn in those areas? Those are some of the questions I had for myself.
As far as PPF, I looked at it by what my goals were. It was honestly just protect the car/paint. Secondary was it looking good, and it's honestly exceeded every expectation. Hopefully my video captured how close you have to look to even identify the car as having XPEL. I've had multiple friends tell me they could identify PPF'd cars easily, and without telling them mine was, they had to be very very close, and know where the seams were to tell. When I got it, I didn't realize that the soap was hydrophobic once it dries on the car (it's a no-rinse soap specific for XPEL). Side note, check out the video I recently did on it (within the last 3 months), and it shows you how easy the cleaning is. So water doesn't stick to the car, and it washes much easier than without. I credit that more to the surfactants in the soap than the XPEL, but if you're going to PPF the car, you'll want to use a soap that conditions and protects the PPF, so the water repelling is a bonus. Dust does stick to the car, but no more (as far as I can tell) than a non PPF car. One really nice benefit is that you don't have to sweat every bit of dust, and rotate towels, etc.. when you clean the car. The PPF keeps that paint looking great, and after 5 years with the car, I have seen no evidence of scratching. Not sure if that's due to the self healing that the premium XPEL I have has. Lastly, the impact protection, for the times you don't expect to need it are the number one reason I picked it, and now swear by it. I don't push my luck. I drive in general on open back roads and the track. I don't tailgate, I leave space and pass if I can't. And yet, several times beyond my control rocks or debris was kicked up in a freak thing (like the dump truck story I think I mentioned in the video). While I know that PPF saved my bacon in that case, I'm less sure that multiple highway speed sharp impacts on the leading edges of the car would have been safely deflected by Ceramic. Maybe, but I can't speak to that from experience.
I'm a few years down the list with my C8 Z06 reservation, but when I get it, the only thing I'm going to do is XPEL the whole car.
Hope this helps,
-Fred
PS - 30 min (tops) washes are a nice plus, I don't do anything fancy if you check out the other video. Hope this helps you decide. Congrats again on the car!
@@FredsFullThrottle Thank you so much for your add’l insight, much appreciated. I went with the Satin Steel color. And thx for the referral on your other vid on the car washing, I’ll be sure to check it out!
@@MS-li5tp Nice, I'm glad the info was helpful! Let me know once you have it what you think! Would love to see pics too. My email is in the about section of my youtube channel (you have to click a button to see the address).
Have a nice day, and thanks for reaching back out!
-Fred
@@MS-li5tp I just order a Blackwing also. I traded by 2019 C7 Grand Sport. I had on ceramic coating on my C7. But, I am researching if it work it for the BW. Never had chips on my C7. I was always cautious when driving and following behind others.
@@FredsFullThrottle Awesome infor. I am getting a dark blue Ferrari. I will get Xpel + Ceramic coating. Don’t want to walk naked. If it really does get yellow which it should I can always get it off. Main reason is I don’t want to get swellings.
So driving while giving the "review" was a must for sure
I try to drive my car as much as I can, during my free time. I don't think it took away from the video at all, did you? It gave me an opportunity to show the PPF in the sunlight, and to show that you can't tell visually that it's on the car.
I was quoted $1650 for a full front + hood Xpel Ultimate installation on a blue IS500. Awesome installer (got my tints from them). I'm worried about swirl marks, sap, and bird droppings. Not so much rock chips. Should I do it?
Hi Jr. Science Bros,
Thanks for reaching out! Price sounds pretty reasonable to me, about 1/3 of the car (including the most detailed part, the front), and it's about 1/3 of what I'd expect for a whole car Xpel.
On to your questions. Quick context, I can only speak to my own experience. So I've had my car just over 5 years, and the finish on the Xpel remains pretty much flawless. There's one little "nick" in it on the front bumper from where a rock hit it, but it didn't get all the way through to the paint. Otherwise the finish looks great. As far as swirl marks, I have none, however an important qualification for that is that I've always hand washed my car from day one, and never have used a car wash (touchless or otherwise). I also use the Xpel specific soap, which is supposed to help with the life of the Xpel. My understanding is that most swirl marks are due to automated car washes (not touchless), and the brushes rubbing across the car and dragging grit/dust across the paint. Since I don't use a car wash, I don't know if I don't have them just because of that, or if the Xpel would be resistant to those marks. I will say that I don't worry about using a perfectly clean towel when drying the car, and have never noticed any marks, even if the towel was visibly dirty. If your installer is skilled, they may be able to tell you if the Xpel finish will swirl, or some googling online might tell you how it fares with car washes. That said, if you're talking about for the paint, and not the Xpel, then yes, Xpel will completely protect the paint. In fact, enough so that if you ever pulled it off, you'd notice a significant difference in the front of the car versus the non-Xpel'd parts.
As far as sap and bird droppings, Xpel will protect the car, no question. One thing I can't speak to though is how the Xpel will hold up under repeated barrages of either substance. I don't really park my car outside much at all, and the little bits of stuff I've washed off have left no marks, but I don't know if I've ever had bird droppings or sap on the car. I will say that bug splatter does come off without any indication it was ever there. With sap or bird droppings I'd wonder if over time anything in those would eat at the plastic of the Xpel, but if you wash off the obvious stuff as you notice it (versus leaving it on for weeks), I don't imagine you'd have any issues. Again, something your installer may be able to answer for you.
Long story short, I think Xpel will certainly protect the paint for all 3 examples, and the price sounds good, however I can't offer much advice on how the finish of the Xpel will hold up to those 3 things, since I don't have experience with them.
Hope this helps in some way, good luck!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle Thanks so much for your thorough reply!! I was also wondering if PPF on the lower bumper and fenders would protect from scrapes caused by high curbs when parking or steep driveways. These are the types of incidents I've encountered commonly in the past.
@@jr.sciencebros.8411 No prob! I think it offers *some* protection from curbs, but only from a door opening into it (if it's not opened hard). If you drive into a curb, even if you just brush against it, there's nowhere for the car to "give" a bit, and I think it would scrape through. My best advice there is to just go very carefully/slowly near curbs, to avoid brushing them. For doors opening into it, I think it would help if it was opened slowly, but PPF isn't really designed for protection from that, so it may not help too much. Good luck!
….in general, PPF install is considered grossly overpriced project…to the point it’s like a total cash grab. I mean the level of “job responsibility” in PPF install should NOT command such high pay/price tag. I actually did my own PPF install after a couple months of research and studied various techniques from installers. In the end, I saved a few thousands for a long Hawaii vacation and home improvements!
Hi Bluestone Metallic,
Thanks for reaching out. Deciding it's worth it to each individual is all about cost/benefit analysis. I'm not saying it make sense for everyone, but when you weigh your options for many people it might make sense. For example, I have a lifetime warranty, and if it ever starts to yellow, crack, peel up, I can go to an Xpel installer, and have them remove and reapply panels at no cost. In the short term that may not be needed (hasn't yet in 5+ years), but longer term, that might be viable.
The second piece there is time. I did look at applying it myself, but when I did, I found that there is a considerable amount of skill and time required to do it right. Just like doing tile work in my house, I could certainly do it (and did on my first tile project), but it would take me longer, I'd likely make at least a few little mistakes, and it wouldn't come out as good as someone whose job is to install it. You mention months of research and study, and I'm imagining a fair bit of time to do your whole car. Now take the hourly rate your time is worth to you, whatever it is. $50/hour, $100/hour, etc... Multiply that times the hours you spent doing your homework, learning technique, deciding on which product, ordering, installing, etc... That's the opportunity cost (in time) that you spent. For me, my time is worth more to me than the money, so it wasn't unreasonable for what I wanted. I had it installed before I even took delivery on the car (right at the dealership), so other than the roughly $3.5-4k, I didn't even notice the time. Ultimately that was the biggest reason I wanted a professional installer to do it.
I try to be careful with broad all encompassing comments like "is considered grossly overpriced", or that it's a total cash grab. Considered by who? Are these people experts? Have they tried the various options on different cars and compared the results? Which factors matter most to them?(money, time, quality, etc...) I do think the cash grab statement is discounting the skill it takes to do the work. Just like a scalpel in a hospital is a $20 piece of steel, the cost of your surgery is largely for the experience and skill that the surgeon has. I'm obviously oversimplifying a bit, but I'm under no illusions that what I paid was for the material itself, it was for the skill and expertise of the installer, and the warranty backing their work. There are specifically some intricate parts of the car, notably the air intakes above the rear fenders and by the bottom of the door that require some very precise cutting to do in a way with minimal seams and full coverage. I've seen a lot of bad installs, very few really well done ones, and not one of the really good ones was someone doing it themselves. I'll put it this way, most people when they see my car in person don't believe me that it's Xpel'd if I haven't told them, and several have asked me to prove it, so I lift the hood and show them the seams underneath.
Either way, I'm glad you got a trip to Hawaii from your savings, and for you the balance of the cost may not have been worth it. For me, it was worth it.
Have a nice day, thanks for reaching out!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle Just an fyi Xpel PPF has a 10 year warranty on the film. Not lifetime. I have run into dealerships telling customers that. Also its nut to me you got a full body ppf wrap on a Corvette for $3,600. That's less then half of what most shops charge (in most areas). The warranty is only valid if they are an authorized Xpel install center.
@@jacobrocha5734 Thanks for the info. I went to XPEL's site, and sure enough it does say 10 years. Yeah, the price was pretty good, though at the time felt like a lot (this was my first fancy car and I didn't know anything about PPF at the time). I think it's about $6k now at the same dealer, I will be having them do it when my Z06 comes in, and can do an updated video about it. Agreed on the authorized installer requirement, MacMulkin contracts out to licensed installers so no issues there.
I've been super pleased, the car still looks brand new. The XPEL has held up amazingly well in what will soon be 5 years of ownership (the car is a 2017 I bought new in January of '17). It's got a few minor nicks in it, but the paint is immaculate and none of the nicks are visible from further away than a few inches. No yellowing, no peeling, no clouding. I always wash it with XPEL conditioner soap, so I think that probably helps, plus I wash the car every couple dimes I drive it.
Anyway, thanks for reaching out!
-Fred
@@jacobrocha5734agree with that. Was just quoted $1900 + tax just to do front bumper, hood, mirrors and pillars. No way could I get full protection for $3600!
To me, PPF just like screen protector, should do it ourself and it doesn’t have to perfect
Would you apply wax overtop the ppf? My car is 100% covered with ppf and am considering waxing it. If yes, what is the best way to apply it. The installer did not use computer cut pieces. Everything was custom cut and wrapped around leading edges.
Thanks for this video! I have swirls and rock chip on my black bmw X5 and it drives me crazy. I wanted the whole car but it’s so pricey so I’m thinking about doing what you did and just ceramic coating the car because it helps reducing the swirls. Also they have things for the window that helps water to bounce off of it, I’m wondering if you got that too?
I’m getting a new 2024 911 turbo s, should I get the PPF?
For that kind of money (Turbo S money), I absolutely would. Heck, any car above about $50k and I would personally, though depending on the vehicle maybe just front bumper, hood, leading edges. But for that 992 Turbo S, yeah, absolutely. That's just my opinion though, if you skim the comments on this video you'll see a bunch of people who think it's a rip off, but my own experience it's more than paid for itself.
Side note, drove a 992 Turbo S at PEC ATL and fell in love. Dream car for me for sure, even over a GT3, just don't have the means to afford one. Congrats!
@@FredsFullThrottle Hi there, so I did get the PPF and I am very happy I did! Thanks for your comments 👍
@@lynnm5721that's awesome! I'm glad it was helpful and love the update! :) Enjoy the car for many years to come! If you ever find yourself near NH and need someone to ride shotgun, I'd be happy to help! :) Congrats again! The 992 Turbo S is my dream car. :)
@@FredsFullThrottlehi, I plan on getting ppf on my 24 Camry. Do you advise I just do the bumper and hood?
@@MC-ie8xl thanks for reaching out! I think for a daily the front bumper, hood, and mirrors is probably all you generally would need. Those are the most "high impact" areas, and you don't have fenders in the back that stick out to need more than that. I did the same for my 22' Tacoma TRD Pro. Congrats on the new car, hope this helps!
I just got my car and they quote me for full ppf $7000 - $8000 (20% of car value). Just out of control pricing 😅
Yeah, that's part of the reason I didn't go full car. Adding the parts I didn't get put it a couple thousand higher. I went with everywhere I could reasonably guess that a rock could hit. The way I rationalize it is that I plan to keep the car a long time (can't believe it's already been 6 years!), and that I spent X amount to buy it, that it'd be silly not to protect my investment at least a bit.
Are those Paddle Shifters for a Manual Transmission car?
Hi CJ,
So those are paddles, but not for shifting. On the automatic cars, yes they're used for shifting. On the manual cars, they are used for turning on/off rev match (which is what I have). Rather than design 2 different steering columns, my assumption is that it was to save cost with one design, and just repurpose the paddles. Both paddles in my car say "rev match", and you can use either one to activate or deactivate. On the automatic cars, there's a minus on the left one, and a plus on the right one.
Hope that helps!
-Fred
I appreciate you sharing your experience with Xpel PPF, brother. I elected to go with a full front coverage on my Tesla (front end: bumper, headlights, fog lights, entire hood, side mirrors) and short sections protecting the forward end of the rear fenders. Like you, I experienced getting hit by some road debris that got kicked up by big movers on the interstate and was saved by the PPF. I'm debating whether I should cover the remainder of the vehicle topped with an added layer of ceramic coating. At the end of the day it's just a car, but I do like to take care of my stuff and keep it pristine as long as possible. Still, that's a lot of money to spend on protecting a depreciating asset and life's too short to sweat the small stuff. Knowing me, I'll probably end up spending more money for the added protection. I guess we'll see.
My pleasure man, glad you found it helpful! That's so great to hear that your PPF protected your car as well!
I'm with you, I realize that no matter the effort, a car will generally depreciate, and get little signs of wear and tear (enjoyment in my mind). Overall I'm not going to sweat it, like you said.
Thanks for reaching out, and thanks for the kind words!
Have a nice weekend man!
-Fred
Got xpel on my Ranger’s hood instead of an ugly looking, leaf catching, needs holes made, stone deflector.
I have a 23 Stingray coming in next couple weeks (at code 3k). Dealer prices I thought were fair $3500 for front and sides.... My question is: after x amount of years how good does it look? Is it still clear or is there hazing? Ceramic on top PPF thoughts? How long do you see it lasting? Has your car seen any bad weather?
Hi Mrswizl,
Congrats on the new car! Honestly, I'm shocked how well it's held up. The car looks just as fresh as when this video was filmed, and as of right now I've had the car 5.5 years and it had Xpel installed before I took delivery.
The car is garage kept always, and I tend to drive in nice weather, but have definitely driven in rain (as recently as this past Sunday coming back from an autocross so the car was already pretty dirty with grit, brake dust, bugs, and then I got at least 20 minutes in heavy downpour on the highway.
The film is still completely clear, though I don't know if that's abnormal since it's not sitting out in the UV sunlight all the time.
I personally didn't see a need for ceramic on top, and still don't. I think in this video (going off memory) I did a walkaround of the car, and a few things strike me. First, is that unless you are inches away from a seam (of which there are few), you can't tell visually the car is wrapped. And secondly, the car looks amazing, and all the luster/shine/sparkles of the paint come right through. Everywhere I go I get compliments and people taking pics. Ceramic might make it look even shinier, but the fact that Ceramic "wears out", and is fairly expensive, and just doesn't provide enough advantages for me to consider it. In short, the car looks great, the PPF has held up incredibly well (no edges peeling or sections needing replacement so far), I don't see the value in it. A big part of this is likely that I always use the Xpel soap when I wash the car, and I wash the car after every 2-3 drives. Doesn't take long (I did a video on it in my backlog), and water beads right off. Even in the rain the other day, the water didn't stick to the car.
You ask a good question about longevity, and I don't really know the answer. I'm 5.5 years in, with not a single sign of the PPF needing any replacement sections or a warranty call. I am very comfortable saying it lasts "at least 5 years with proper care", but don't know if it's 8, 10, 12 or more.
I'll put it this way. I have a reservation on a C8 Z06, which I plan to do a FULL car Xpel install on, and nothing else. No ceramic. I've been so thoroughly impressed by what Xpel does for the car, and the protection it offers, that I wouldn't even consider another brand. At first I thought the cost was high, but now realize it was totally worth it, and won't even flinch when I get it installed on the Z06.
Hope this helps,
-Fred
6k for whole car, I may have a closer guy however that may be cheaper and reputable. I was told that the $3500 package pretty much covers all bases. 6-8 weeks to go for me and she comes home
I paid 5k for full body ppf xpel on my 23 Stingray so 3500 I feel is a tad much. Find a authorized Xpel dealer.
@@lazsosa8711 car was done weeks ago…
What I’ve learned, PPF comes down to who’s installing it. Huge bottom line. Also Ceramic coating PPF is definitely the way to go. Ceramic just makes cleaning easy (you will fight break dust). I’m wrapped in suntek (ceramic infused) making car look like it has 10mm of clear coat (sick!!!). PPF has saved 2 good scratches that I watched heal itself (it works). Worth it if you plan on keeping car.
@mrswizl I figured once I noticed the the date comment posted. Well hope you enjoy it also look up scrape armor grill guards and bottom protector just installed them at the dealer today. Really worth it
is it true to wait one month before doing the ppf for the new car to allow the solvent to be released from the paint??
I haven't heard that, but also consider that from when a car is produced to when you get it at a dealer is likely several weeks if not longer.
I have a Ducati motorcycle they asked me 1500-2000 to wrap the gas tank, front& rear fairing and one headlight. 😅
Ultimately Decided to do a vinyls wrap to change a color of my bike and wrap PPF only on the headlight and it was 500$ much cheaper. Plus I only ride a couple time a month so I guess it was not for me.
Hi Chanh!
Thanks for reaching out! I'm a Ducati guy myself, my last 2 have been a Hypermotard 821, and a Streetfighter 848. Next Spring I'm getting a Hyper 950.
Anyway, I don't think I'd worry about PPF'ing a bike. Maybe if you were really worried the leading edges of the fairing (depending on which model you have, like a Panigale), but I've owned about 15 bikes and have never PPF'd a bike, and have never had issues. The thing is that bikes tend to be higher up off the road (or at least the fragile bits), whereas my car is just inches above the pavement. PPF'ing the headlight isn't a bad idea, especially if you have a Monster or a Diavel, since it's a single large housing.
Anyway, have a nice day!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle My bike was a Ducati Scrambler Cafe Racer
It's really interesting to hear from your perspective to not PPF'ing a bike. Cause I am one of those dudes that would get a headache over a small scratch on a bike/ car. I was exploring different options from ceramic coating to ppf, etc...after seeing some scratches from the side gas tank panel, but did not expect it to be so expensive on a bike let alone a car.
Anyway, I did get a vinyl wrap from them and they were nice enough to do some ceramic coating over the vinyl. But at the end of the day, just like you; I just want to keep my investment in fresh condition as long as I can.
Interesting video! Got a sub from me.
@@chanhnguyen81 Hey man, I appreciate it, thanks!
I've always taken really good care of my stuff (if you look through my videos you'll see as much). Earlier in my life, back in my 20's when my bikes were my only toys/pride and joy, I worried more about it. Now that I'm older, and my tastes have gone upmarket, I stress more over cars. That said, my last bike (SF848) wasn't in the best cosmetic condition when I bought it (used it'd sat in a parking garage for almost 2 years before me), whereas my hyper was immaculate. I totally get you, and I stress out over keeping my vehicles nice.
I think one thing for me, is that all my bike riding is on roads out in the middle of nowhere or on the track, so I rarely have cars ahead of me (and if so I pass them), so I don't get really anything kicked up.
The Scramblers are awesome, I've been casually cruising classified listings, and wouldn't be shocked if I end up with one as a second or third bike at some point. Love how they look and the riding position.
Have a nice evening, and thanks again!
-Fred
Thanks for the info and I am still deciding but my dude maybe make the review while your not driving just saying lol but thanks for the info!
Hi Ajsprimetimefitness,
Thanks for reaching out. You'll notice that video was quite a while ago (2020 I think?). I was looking for a reason to get out of the house. Earlier on in the channel, I did a fair bit of driving while talking. Looking back, they weren't scripted, were just whatever came to mind, and to me personally, were a bit all over the place.
However, if you look at my recent stuff (pretty much anything in the last 8 months or so), you'll see my format has completely changed. As I've evolved and grown as a channel, I've made a lot of improvements to try to make things easier to watch, more to the point, etc... I keep the old stuff online, because it does provide value for people looking for info, but it's honestly hard to make driving videos as polished as studio/garage videos. Nevertheless, I appreciate the feedback.
As far as the PPF, I cannot recommend it highly enough. I have a reservation in on a C8 Z06, and will be doing the full Xpel PPF on that car. Now that I've had it save my bacon a few times, I'd never get a nice car and not add it. I know it's a lot of money, but it's truly worth it.
Hope that helps. Have a nice day!
-Fred
Are u using xpel ultimate plus?
Just Xpel Ultimate. I don't know if Plus was an option when I bought it.
You have to really ask around different authorized xpel installers in your area. I had to ask at least 5 local authorized xpel installers in my area and 99% of them charges $520 + tax to just put full hood xpel ultimate on my front hood. I found one guy that only charges $$390 … If you live in SE WI, I can tell you who to go with…
I have 2022 Subaru Outback Wilderness edition.
Hi AWGD8,
Thanks for reaching out! I didn't really have a choice, because the dealership had a partnership with a local certified installer, and that's who they worked with. The benefit was that the car wasn't driven a single mile without PPF (other than the 3 or so miles at the factory), so there was less chance of scratches before getting it installed. They did the PPF right at the dealership.
If I'd already taken delivery of the car I'd have done some shopping around, but such was not the case. Still, though expensive, I've more than gotten my money's worth. When my C8 Z06 comes in, I'm doing the full car this time, instead of 75% of it (roof and doors were the only parts not done).
Have a nice day!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle Definitely understandable!
Funny thing is, back in 2008 I had an Infiniti dealership put PPF on my EX35 crossover and it was installed by the dealership contracted 3rd party PPF installer. I personally met the installer. Fast forward to 2022, when I was checking out prices , I found the guy and I mentioned to this specific PPF that he installed my PPF back in 2008, maybe that’s the reason I got at least $100 savings vs the competition. 😀
@@DacAL_8 Haha, that's awesome! This is an everyone wins situation. If you like their work, then you have a trusted, quality installer, and on their side, they get a repeat customer (who may also recommend them to friends). Everyone wins! This time around, I definitely plan to meet the installer and be a bit more aware. I didn't ask many questions last time, and honestly was a bit naïve going in, but have learned a lot since then.
Have a nice day!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle ask for his business card and bypass the dealer next time..😅
Iike everything else it depends on if u have the extra $. Any "done right" PPF is gonna be $5K for basic front/full hood and then....the Ceramic(so thats $2500+$2000).....$5K is a hell of a lot of $ for most "normal folks'.
As cars are routinely having more and more problems in the first 3 years..... to drop $5K extra is truly a luxury. Insurance is going up, car prices going up, maintenance getting more complicated and going up and more people will get Repo'd this year than ever before. If u got the $ get it but most people do not have an extra $5-10K after just buying a new car my friends.
Fords ppf is 400 before install fees. it’s not the whole car but it’s several portions so I’m wondering what kind of crap they are using lol
I have a new Rav4 Prime from factory coming in a few weeks. I have been considering PPF and ceramic coating however it is pretty pricy. Do you think it’s worth it for the whole car to be PPF? Or just the front and rear?
Hi Lily,
Congrats on the new car, that's exciting!
For a car like the Corvette, especially where it's so low to the ground, and in the line of fire behind other cars' rear tires, I felt it was good to cover most of the car.
For a car like the Rav4 Prime, I think you could do the front bumper, hood, mirrors, and likely that's all you'd need. I don't know you'd get much value doing the back of the car, as generally nothing hits the back of a car high speed, unless you're thinking for like shopping carts or something.
Agreed PPF is quite expensive, but I can honestly say in my experience it's been worth it. One other thought would be how long you plan to keep the car. My Vette is 5 years old and looks brand new. If you're planning to keep the car long term, then it will help keep it looking new much longer, and an added benefit is that it makes it easier to clean (if you use the right soap). I made a video on washing a car with PPF if that's helpful: ruclips.net/video/SOUXi5vbd2Y/видео.html
Good luck, and thanks for reaching out!
-Fred
I should add, that for me personally, ceramic doesn't seem worth it. I have a new C8 Z06 reservation, and when I get the car I only plan to PPF the entire car, no ceramic coating. That's just me though ,and I know some people really like Ceramic coatings, but I'm not sold on it.
@@FredsFullThrottle thank you for the quick response! And I acknowledge it’s not a super car and probably complete PFF is overall - you’re right it’s not a lot car. I do live right in the city and park in a garage so rear bumper I think will be helpful. I think I will skip on the ceramic! And I’ll be sure to check out how to wash PPF ☺️
@@lilymetcalfe97 My pleasure, glad it was helpful! Good luck, and enjoy the new car!
Suntek PPF has 10 years warranty and is also hydrophobic
Nice! The Xpel I have has a 10 year warranty as well. Not sure if it's hydrophobic, but I know the soap I use contributes. Water beads right off so it's very easy to dry. To be honest I didn't look at other brands, since Xpel is what my dealership offered, and their installers had done hundreds of Corvette's, but I've heard that Suntek is good too! Have you had good luck with Suntek?
@@FredsFullThrottle The only difference I've noticed is that with Suntek a permanent marker doesn't stick at all just wipes off with a tissue, but with Xpel I needed alcohol wipes to get it off, by the way, your corvette looks and sounds awesome!!
@@thrust_fpv Oh that's awesome, good to know, thank you for sharing that!
I think I might be sold on the PPF, they quoted me for $1950 for just the front but I’m trying to haggle the price. I have a 2023 Toyota GR 86 10th Anniversary Edition.
My question is, if I only put the front, do you think it’ll create a difference in due time from the rest of the car? Dirt would stick to the other half and the rear but the front would be protected. It’ll sort of create a “tan line” and my OCD would kick in, it’ll just look messy.
The full body is $2950. Now I’m just a regular guy who don’t make a lot of money which is why I want to protect my first brand new car. That does sound a bit much.
Speaking of that, since you have the warranty, how many times can they change it? Like “oh I have a tiny rock hole here, fix it for free” to anywhere from in the U.S. ? Sounds too good to be true. I feel like they’d still charge you something.
Thanks for the informative video!
On a GR I would do the full body. That is going to be a JDM classic. I have a Kona N and I'm thinking of doing the whole thing. I don't think it will be a classic but I'm still thinking about it.
Just got quoted $4700 for the etire 2023 M2 i just bought. Seeing as i keep cars at least 10 years, im going to do it.
How about a PPF care video..how do you wash it? Car sounds & looks amazing 🤩
This is a great idea, I have to wash the car right now (did a 505 mile drive the other day), I'll get this filmed, and created. Will be a few weeks before it goes live (I have a few videos to edit before that, but stay tuned)!
Thanks!
-Fred
@Superchicken798 the video that went live today is the PPF care video you asked about, made specifically due to your request! Hope you enjoy or find it helpful!
ruclips.net/video/SOUXi5vbd2Y/видео.html
I have XPEL on my 19 C7 GS and to top it off I also ceramic coated it as well! Why not lol
Hi Sunnytdk1,
Does the ceramic look just as good on the XPEL as on any parts of the car that aren't PPF'd? I have heard it does, but haven't seen a car in person that I know had both. I'm interested in trying it, will have to go find one in person to look at.
Have a nice day, and thanks for reaching out!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle it looks really good on parts that are xpel’ed and parts that arent. Def worth it IMO.
@@Sunnytkd1 That's great to hear, I appreciate the info! Have a great day!
@@FredsFullThrottle where in NH are you from? I am from Massachusetts
@@Sunnytkd1 Hey man,
Southern, NH, Salem/Windham area. That's cool that you're relatively nearby! Whereabouts in Mass?
Does it protect from door dings (i.e. someone opens their door in a parking lot and hits my car)?
Hi Russel,
I don't actually know, since I don't have my doors done, and I never park near anyone unless I'm at a car show. I would think that a light ding, yes it would, based on all the rocks it's protected me from, but someone opening their door hard, I'm not sure. Probably depends a bit on where the hit is, how hard, etc... But it does a great job with gravel and pretty large rocks (half dollar sized) at speed, so I'd imagine no matter what damage happens, it's significantly less with the film.
Im just curious to how you paid less than 4k! Im getting quotes at 7500 or more. That is insanity.
Hi Kenny,
Part of it is that I bought it 6 years ago, when I bought the car new. I also think I got a small discount (like $400 or so) because I bought it with the car as an add on, through the dealership (they paid to have an XPEL installer come onsite to do it). I also didn't do the doors or roof (can't remember if I mention that in the video), but did every other surface. Were I to do it all over again, I'd do the entire car, money was my only hesitation back then. It is super expensive, but honestly in my experience it was worth it. There's a fairly loud crowd of "it's way too much money, just get the car resprayed", but having to repaint the car every so often, worrying about paint match, and not protecting the paint so it can chip immediately after repainting are some of the big reasons why I think that's a non-starter.
It is worth the money (to me at least) for flawless paint, and the car looking factory new (even now 6 years later). Plus, I've yet to meet anyone who realizes the car is wrapped unless I mention it. The number of incredulous looks I've gotten when I say that, and then I walk them over and show them is the "proof in the pudding" that it's impossible to tell visually unless you're less than 2 feet away, and even then sometimes I can't tell. Hope this helps somehow!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle thank you! Makes more sense based on you doing it 6 years ago for sure.
How do u know there wasn't any damage without actually REMOVING the ppf??🙄
You can see right through it, right down to the individual flakes in the paint, and that's what it's designed to do. There are plenty of videos online of people testing PPF and sharing their results. You don't have to believe me, I'm just sharing my experience, however my experience has been that the car has zero damage/scratches/chips in the 5+ years of ownership.
This is not true anymore. Just the front of your car would cost $3500 for XPEL PPF.
I believe I got a discount because I bought the Corvette to go with the Xpel... Joking aside, I don't know what the current pricing is like, coming up on 6 years ago that I purchased the car.
I just got quoted 5,000 for a ZLE full xpel ultimate plus
I have ppf on my z and I agree 100%. Lol my experience with xpel makes me wonder if KITT from Knight Rider was covered with PPF🤷🏾♂️😏😭
Hahahaha, that might explain how indestructable KITT was!
Tonzel, thanks for reaching out, and glad you've had a similar great experience. The cost up front had me question it a little, but honestly after a few of those instances where I needed it, I'm a million percent sold. It's going on any car I get going forward.
Have a great day!
-Fred
Love the V8 music yes I have ceramic coating and some ppf but might get ppf for the hood also Trying to decide on maybe Stek products this time ✌️🇨🇦
Dont do STEK, go with proven XPEL
@@vwupr ok I’ll take your advice Truck is going in in two weeks ✌️👍
The misconception about PPF is that it last forever but it doesn’t . Once it get damaged from rock chips the film will need to be replaced at a cost.
I never said that it never has to be replaced. However, in my experience I've only got 2 small nicks in it from stones in 7 years of ownership, and the nicks don't go all the way through. At some point I'll have it checked, but honestly it holds up amazingly well.
I feel like doing the whole car is pointless. Im not a huge fan of PPF but do have some on my c7 corvette. The only places ppf is really needed is the front bumper, headlights, front fender, and side mirror and hood and near the brake vent by the rockers. Everywhere else is no point at all and a waste of money in my opinion. I think ppf is way to overpriced to. Ive had my bumper repainted and if you take it to a really good shop its matched 100% perfect no way you can even tell it was repainted. The cost of ppf for a whole car i might as well get the whole car repainted 🤣🤣
I agree to disagree. :)
10 minutes out of a paint shop and you can get rock chips. As I mentioned in the video, at least 2 different times where the whole bumper would have been chipped up by rocks/gravel on the highway. The paint and look stays mint the entire time of ownership. Paint matching while good these days, always has the chance of slight variation with the panels you're trying to match. Aftermarket/repainting lowers value (if that matters to an owner). Also, I have not yet met a person in person who has seen my car and could tell it had PFF, and when I tell them, most are shocked, and want to see a seam behind the edges.
I agree it's expensive, but see it as a small price to pay for protecting the paint for the life of the car, and will happily buy it for any other sports/supercars I buy. Also, the product itself is not expensive, what you're paying for is the labor from a skilled installer to install it perfectly, without bubbles, warping, tears, or lifting edges. There is a huge difference in price from a good installer and a crappy one. You're paying a skilled person to do what they're good at. I have yet to see someone say they payed way less and actually have it look good...you get what you pay for.
It's not for everyone, totally agree, and I do agree that the only "must have" parts are the leading edges as you mentioned. However, for the peace of mind it offers me, I'm happy to pay for the whole car. My car doesn't have it on the doors/roof, but does everywhere else. My next car will have the whole thing, and if I ever need to refresh on this one (probably around the 8-10 year mark, then I'll do the full car. I view it as cost of ownership. Just like insurance, fuel and other consumables. It's an expensive car, it costs money to own, that's part of the deal. New sets of tires are $1400 a pop minimum, and replaced every few years with mileage or track use. I like that mine looks factory new every day of the 6 years I've owned it, and would recommend it to anyone.
-Fred
They asked me $3700 for full body (with roof) $98 000 car (GLC Coupe). Not too cheap, but I guess it is worth it. Especially, considering the fact, that I am going to use that car for about 6-8 years before selling it.
$3700 is a good price. I just bought a brand new 2023 Jaguar F-Type last weekend and been calling around to get prices for PPF. Average price I am getting for full car is $7k and about $2200 for just the front end. That math does not add up saying half the car is already being covered but then to do the other half it is $4800 more? Vinyl wrap average price I am getting for the full car is $4k. My car is also $100k vehicle. I wouldn't mind getting it done but the prices are outrageous and I think I will just have to settle for ceramic coating and then maybe towards the end of the year either get it wrapped in vinyl or PPF.
wow 3600 is cheap for a complete car PPF. Well done.
Hi Teddy M, my guess is that I got a bit of a deal since it was purchased through the dealership I bought the car from.
😎💯🔥👍🏾….I actually just got the ceramic coating on mine , I did my research & I know some Vette owner’s personally that haven’t had no issues plus it’s looks awesome, I checked into XPel but just too expensive for me…lol…but I do like it though ….your C7GS looks great…..I have a 2019 C7 GS…had it only a few weeks now….loving it
Congrats on the GS man! Fantastic car, you're going to love growing into the car and all the driving you'll do!
I love the look of ceramic coating, might try it at some point too!
Have a nice day!
-Fred
It’s lowkey not easy to remove 🤣🤣
Hi Jesus,
Thanks for reaching out! You're not wrong, that said, with a lifetime warranty if I ever need it removed or replaced, I'd just have a professional Xpel installer do the removal. But, for the protection it offers, totally worth it. Have a nice day!
-Fred
That music is amazing
Thanks for reaching out Brian!
I appreciate it! I was trying to find something that captured how I felt with the hyperlapse intro footage I used driving up the coast. I use a service called Epidemic Sound for all music/sound effects and there is a plethora of things (10's of thousands) to pick from. I forget the name of the exact song, but if I remember it I can send it to you.
Have a nice day!
-Fred
It’s great. But it’s expensive AF!!
Agreed
Very informative but do you have to film while driving with all that wind noise? Maybe next time just stop the car and film please.
Hi LuxGadget,
I run a channel about sports cars. Sports cars are loud and not well sound damped. A lot of my earlier videos I filmed while driving. I can't recall if when this was filmed I had my separated dedicated mic, I don't think I did. When I use that, I have a low pass cutoff that drops out a lot of the low frequency droning noises. I didn't have a lot of options when I was just starting out, as I didn't have much nicer recording equipment, just a GoPro. Starting out, I did the best I could, I don't know what to tell you, no one else has really complained about the sound in the dozens of driving videos' I've released. *shrug*
I'd suggest turning down the audio if it bothers you, or maybe that video just isn't right for you.
I haven't been filming in the cars as much for the last year, so my more recent videos shouldn't annoy you so much. That said, I bought a bin-aural recording mic specifically for POV driving, but haven't had a chance to use it yet, so there may be more driving videos coming. Anyway, have a nice day!
-Fred
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STOP DRIVING!!!!, some real Final destination shts happening, next you're gonna say a bunch of pointy wood stacked on a straight bed flipped over on the highway but bounced off your hood
Hahaha, no idea what you're talking about... lol
$3,600 for full coverage?? I would've done that in a hearbeat! I was quoted 10k for a Dodge Charger. Yea.. I said no thank you.
Sure coming from a guy who does this for a living . Haahaa
If you had a subaru, all hits wouldve been dented regardless.
Hahaha, that sounds bad...glad I didn't go that route! Which model have you had with that kind of fragility? I've always liked WRX/STI's, but never got one. Is the paint decent, or thin too?
if it wasn't so expensive, I bet more people would do it and more people would have nicer cars.
Hi Bacawaka,
I definitely agree. I definitely had to think about it a bit to spend around $4k on top of all the other costs when I bought the car. That said, it's been totally worth it, and my car is in immaculate condition as a result. It sucks that it's so expensive, especially because at best your car just looks stock, but the protection is worth it (to me at least). When my C8 Z06 comes in, I'll be doing the full car, which I'm sure will be even more expensive. RIP wallet.
Have a nice evening!
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle I would totally get a ZO6 if I wasn't already making 2 car payments. How do you feel about the new high gloss color ppf that is on the market?
@@bacawaka2813 I hear ya on the car payments thing, and would hold off if I was making 2 as well. I haven't heard about the colored PPF, what brand(s) make it? I haven't done much homework since getting my car coated, but if it offers the same protection, that might be a great option for someone considering a wrap for their car, because they get the protection rolled into just one product. What are your thoughts on it?
-Fred
@@FredsFullThrottle The PPF i was referring to is Flexishield. It is a cosmetic PPF that has resin paint color inside one of the layers and it has the same protection and healing properties as PPF. On metrorestyling, it is about $1600 for a 60 foot roll.
@@bacawaka2813 That sounds pretty cool, I'll have to check it out. That price doesn't seem too bad either! Thanks for the heads up!
$3,600 for full coverage?? I would've done that in a hearbeat! I was quoted 10k for a Dodge Charger. Yea.. I said no thank you.
damn I just got my new mustang gt and am starting to look at quotes for just front ppf
For just the front, I don't think it'll be that bad.
Its been almost 2 years now with my Charger and I have rock chips and dings in my paint just from driving it. The chips are mainly in the front bumper, one on the hood, and some on my front doors, so heads up. Surprisingly none on the rear end of the car. The ones in the front bumper are the worst ones.
Did you get ceramic coating? Or what are you gonna do when you have rock chips?
@@abyousocrazy358 at this point my only options are paint correction, repaint, or leave it as is. But if you're gonna get paint correction or repaint, then it'd be smart to get PPF as well. And now you can begin to see how the price is gonna add up.
Yes, I do have ceramic coating but that doesn't help from chips, dings, and scratches. Ceramic coatings only help with water repelling and easier wash. (It does make it look really shiny and gorgeous).
What am I gonna do about the chips? Absolutely nothing. Unless I wanna shelve out the money (10k+), I am gonna do nothing; pretend they're not there 😄. No seriously, I did get touch up paint, which is the cheap option, but it is far from perfect. A professional told me the only way to get it perfect again is to repaint the whole panel(s) and then get PPF. So... my broke a$$ is gonna leave it as is 😔. But I just tell myself "her flaws give her character". Makes it a little better if you let it bake in a little.
@@GoodKong.BadKong I feel you it’s so expensive I was quoted 6k just for the full ppf in Texas!!! I thought it would be cheaper down there. I actually got a quote today in SoCal and it was 4.8k for the full wrap and I want to delete the chrome in my car to have it all back and that’s another $1400 😭😭 so expensive the guy suggested to finance it cuz they have a promotion for one year