Air Canada 777-300/ER business class amused me (YUL-CDG)
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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00:00 - Intro
00:26 - YUL International Terminal
01:25 - Sponsor
03:00 - Maple Leaf Lounge
04:19 - Boarding Process
04:52 - Seat Overview
05:37 - Departure Process
07:39 - In Flight Entertainment
08:51 - Dinner Service
10:07 - Loo review
10:35 - Breakfast Service
11:18 - Final Thoughts and Arrival
Air Canada 777-300/ER business class is one of those long haul international business class products that seems so-so at first glance, but ends up being astonishingly good after the fact.
This video is a summary of my experience on AC870 from Montreal to Paris. A route, by the way, which is far too short to fully appreciate how good Air Canada business class really is.
The aircraft registration was C-FNNW, and my seat was 5A.
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For me, the extra cost for Business Class only makes sense on flights over 7 hours - from 4 - 7 hours it's premium economy, and under four hours it's economy. Just how I roll! Loved the video and great to see you back flying!
i do prefer first class like AF LA PREMIERE service
That does make a lot of sense. I might’ve been far more tempted to do premium economy if I knew ahead of time that this flight was only going to be 5.5 hours.
@@clausstimpfig3803 really? Vlog your flights 🤔😏
@@dba750 too old . Maybe my husband. 14 years younger than me. PLUS La Premiere is so exclusive that you dont want to show this to other people. Everything is very private. It is a secret that you keep. On our last flight the captain shook hands with us. Thanked us for choosing AF. Then chatted with us in French, German and English After landing in the U.S. he came once again out of his cockpit hugging us. Well, do admit I started to cry! THIS IS FIRST CLASS SERVICE. BESIDES THE CAVIAR,LOBSTER AND VINTAGE CHAMPAGNE
This was a short night flight too when service is typically not good.
I love how much you put lots of humour into your videos most flight reviews are just not the same 🤣🤣
Happy new year! Seeing you posted a new video today made my day :D
Happy new year to you as well Michael! Hope you enjoyed the video…
Your report was just awesome! Waiting for more new videos.
Another amazing video by you scott!
Subbed to your channel, charming analysis of your flights and light hearted. Makes it always an enjoyable watch! 🙂
So glad YT recommended your channel :) Like your comment style and the cutscene intro's
I Have Not Try Out Air Canada Business Class Yet.Great Work
If flying paid business class on Air Canada, make sure you depart from Toronto instead of Montreal. Air Canada has a even better lounge called the Signature Lounge for their paid business class guests which feature a la carte fine dining with food inspired by chef David Hawksworth
Now you tell me! 😄 I’ll definitely have to check that out next time.
It makes the hassle and nail biting uncertainty of connection flights into YYZ worth it. Plus if your lucky, on a domestic connection to international departure at YYZ, AC will pick you up in a Porsche to drive you to the international departure hall right by the Signature Suite.
Personally, I favor the new Air Canada livery which is handsome at the same time striking as it showcases the maple leaf. 😉👍🏻. Sooner they repaint the toothpaste the better 👍🏻. I’ve found that Air Canada Business Class really does deliver. ☺️. We won’t get into “Rouge” Business Class 🫤
Great video as always Scott!
Thanks Sam!
Excellent video, your very amusing comments keep me coming back each time!
Thanks Christian! You’ll become bored with my schtick eventually…just give it time. 😆
Excellent review Scott!
Thanks Ryan!
i've always wondered about Air Canada's biz class so it's nice to get a comprehensive look. happy new year, here's to many more successful flights and reviews to come in 2023
Actually I had no idea either before going into this, so it ended up being a nice surprise. Just wish the flight could’ve been a little longer. 😄 Happy new year to you as well!
Glad you enjoy your flight experience with Air Canada.
This livery is definitely their best.
Great video and keep it up.
Thanks Meeran - I’m definitely going to miss that livery when it’s gone.
@@sanspotter You're welcome.
Always enjoy your videos! Flying AC business to Brazil in a couple of months. SAN - YUL - GRU - definitely looking forward to it!
Good to see that I'm not the only one that gets upset at shorter flight times!
I know right? I totally wouldn’t have minded a fuel stop in Dubai or something. 😄
Great video Scott!
Thanks man!
love scott fr 🙏
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Happy New Year Scott!, great review as always. Was there a plane change? Anyway great to see that you chose Chicken and Rice and that you included it in the first review for 2023 👍
Thanks Mike - happy new year to you as well! Actually, the flight from SAN to YUL was on a brand new A220-300. That’s the next video btw. 😎
love your reviews greetings from the netherlands
Thanks Brigitte! Happy new year!
Nice review!
Thanks Matthew!
That iconic Scott sigh! 🤣
And all that is left is a review of Air Canada Rouge Business Class for showing us the full Air Canada experience!
Hi Scott great video as always thanks for making me inspired to make videos like you I really like your videos and wish you a great rest of 2023
Thanks Dylano! Looking forward to seeing what you create! Happy 2023 to you as well.
That was the best airline lavatory I've seen in a long time. It was above average spacious!
Maybe not the best but certainly one of the largest!
This was a super video and a super review. I'll be flying to CPH Airport from Milan Malpensa Airport tommorow with my family and I just can't wait to get on the plane again.
Great video as always Sanspotter and happy new year! :)
Thanks Justin! Happy new year to you as well - and enjoy that flight tomorrow! 😎
I would’ve thought that flight would’ve been a lot longer than just 5 1/2 hours from Montreal to Paris. As always, nice review…and of course you had the chicken! What would a Sanspotter video be without it? Happy New Year Scott!❤🎉🎆✈️
Happy new year to you as well! But yeah, at least the short flight time was offset by the chicken. It’s all good. 😆
During the winter, it's not uncommon to complete a YUL-CDG in 5h30min or so, the jetstream is pretty strong moving east.
The return flight, CDG-YUL usually clocks in around 7h30min or so during the winter.
The lounge was unbelievable! It would seem like it would be hard to walk away but I didn’t see any trays of chicken and rice either! Another great review… 👍
I like your video and for that short flight it seem like it faster then any other flight I hope you had a great time in Paris
Thanks Julie! It was just a short 24 hour visit, but at least I got to go into central Paris and have a look around for the first time since 2011.
I’m doing the 15 hour flight from syd to vancouver next week I’m looking forward to the signature series.
Hi Scott - Excellent flight review. What is the piece of music you used - with the whistling?
Thanks! That’s Cruise With a Breeze by Sight of Wonders.
Great video! When you fly home you should do FRA-DEN on their a340!
Sounds fun! But I actually flew KLM 777-200 business class (my previous video). It was 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Wow I haven’t seen this old livery for long time
The old livery is gorgeous The new livery just looks like Delta, but it's still pretty cool. It's kind of weird, but I would have felt cheated for only a 5.5 hour hop across the pond. Plus, that's a lot of food for such a short amount of time. No sleep + 2 meals = 1 sleepy SANspotter.
“No sleep + 2 meals = 1 sleepy SANspotter” would have been the perfect title for this video actually. I’ll consult you next time! 😆
Glad you enjoyed your experience on AC! So refreshing since AC gets nothing but hate in Canadian media and from people who fly once a year
They’re really good compared to US airlines. 👍🏻
5.5 hours is roughly the time to fly a domestic flight in Canada from the east to west lol that must've felt so quick going to Europe like this!
I still feel like they owe me an extra hour of flight time (in business class) for the inconvenience. 😄
Lovely flight it seems. Nothing out of the ordinary but great food and a friendly crew (duh, they are Canadian) is all I want, really.
Yup, as a Canadian, AC J is always consistent. It's not amazing, but it'll never be unpredictably bad (especially now that all the A330s have been refurbished and have the new config)!
Totally! Air Canada hasn’t let me down (yet). 🤞🏻😄
There's Air Transat as well from YUL to CDG and I believe Corsair comes to YUL as well during summer season from ORY. Btw the Air Canada business class may not be fancy as that of the MEB3 but it does its job. I have done Toronto to Delhi and back on it and it was pretty good. Scott, next time you can try the 777-200LR from Vancouver to Sydney or Toronto to Delhi (both are around 15 hrs of flight time) to feel a complete Air Canada business class experience.
Yeah, I’d love to try AC biz on a longer route! I’ll probably go for the 787 next time though (just to see how it compares).
It's the exact same seat and IFE as the 787 I thought? The A330 I think is slightly different as it was recently installed.
Hi! What equipment do you use to record your videos??
Just an iPhone and a GoPro 👍🏻
What new business class seat on AC?? This is the "new" seat so I'm confused.
I think the fin number on that 777 was a bit misleading 😂
I wonder, how do you choose who to blur in the video? It seems random!
Haha, yeah, there’s no science behind it other than making sure that all airport / airline employees are blurred (which I do as a courtesy since we always hear how “illegal” it is to record airline staff). I also try to blur out anyone who’s face is clearly recognizable in the shot - but not so much for anyone far in the background.
Hey Scott, I’m traveling more this year internationally should I continue to book through a travel agent? Or should I do it myself. Business class wise. Thanks
Hey Jason - booking everything yourself will take more time but at least you’ll end up with the exact flight (and seat) that you want. I’d never want someone else to book all my travel (but I’m weird like that 😆).
@@sanspotter thank you. Yeah I want to earn my own points as well. Also should I book directly from the airline itself or those discounted sites like Priceline.
When I flew them back in October in business class, there weren’t any welcome drinks. And my flight was delayed for 3hours
I wouldn’t have cared much about the lack to pre departure drinks, but a 3 hour delay would have certainly irritated me!
Strangely enough, I found the seat in the 777 slightly more comfortable than the 787. It could have just been the seat I was on of course but in bed mode the 777 seat appeared to have fewer ridges. Oh, and I’m glad to see the pre-departure drink service is back, I never was offered it on the three business class flights I’ve taken with AC in 2022. It’s only a small thing but it makes you feel at home.
Interesting! I’ve yet to try the 787, but from all the pics I’ve seen it looks like a more comfortable seat. Now I have justification to test it out I guess. 😄
@@sanspotter the seats were very similar. I’d no real complaints with either other than the slightly uneven flat bed feel to the one in the 787 but that might just have been the one I was in. The one thing that really makes me favour the 777 is the conventional window blinds. I really am not a fan of the polarising windows in the 787 when the crew can override your control. I choose window seats so I can look out of the window when I want, which is most of the flight!
A windy leg from St John's to London is 4 hours I think.
That actually sounds fun. 😄
@@sanspotter They aren't doing it at the moment, but they are doing a day flight from Halifax to London.
Nice review, however I'm going to have to disagree with you about the business class seat on the B777, it is the same super diamond seat as on the B787. I am a retired Air Canada Aircraft Maintenance Engineer and I have worked on these seats on the 777 and 787. The IFE is also the same Panasonic ex3 system on both fleets.
This IFE is on the 787s as well? That’s surprising! I much prefer the IFE on the narrowbody fleet I guess.
Could you not have gone via somewhere like Vancouver on the Canadian West Coast, therefore getting more sleep
Yes, but the best deal I found was out of YUL. YVR was super expensive (in both dollars and points).
Wow Scott! Excellent job as per the usual but the seat and screen on that Air Canada 🇨🇦 777-300ER really do look “behind” the times.. 😔 Sad as well since general most of Air Canada’s products and aircraft seem great! Love seeing the 777 still though!
Cheers 🥂
Caleb’s Aviation
Thanks Caleb! If anything, this really makes me want to give their 787s a try. For scientific purposes of course. 🙃
Dude idk but seems like when I caught a plane to Europe or back to the states was always like 10-11 hours , 51/2 hours from Montreal to Paris is pretty cool don’t think the concord would be much faster but what do I know , like your vids bro 😎.
Thanks Wolfgang - yeah, it did have somewhat of a Concorde vibe to it. It was my shortest transatlantic crossing by far!
In October I flew AC Signature Class ( Biz ) ATH-YYZ 777-300 and connected to another AC Signature Class YYZ-YVR 787-9. The seats are virtually identical, Collins Super Diamond, same exact colour scheme and materials too. I found the 777-300 a little roomier, was seated in 1K for both. The only noticeable difference in the product is the newer entertainment system on the 787. So it's a tad misleading to say that there's anything different about the seat at all as there is nothing, save for smaller storage compartments on the 787 and one lav in the forward galley vs two on the 777. I actually enjoyed my ride more on the 777. Nice to see the return of hot towels and the warm nuts, those were still missing on my flights in October.
This is correct. I am a FF on AC and flown the 787 and 777 signature cabins extensively. There is no difference between the 2, except for wider seats on the 777 but newer infotainment on the 787. However, I'm pretty sure that some 787-8 still have the old infotainment system. Aside from the 2 minor differences, the cabin design, layout, and ambiance remain the same.
@@kevinzeng9606 Thanks Kevin! The 787-9 I was on had a newer entertainment system than the 777-300 I just connected from.. and different flight map, although newer, not as new as the A220's. Perhaps some of the 787's have the same systems as the 777s
You should try sitting in the back of the 777 where they squeeze 450 people onboard
Can you please fly from San Diego to Munich on the Lufthansa a350 or British airways
As soon as I can find decent award availability I’ll be all over it. Those flights out of SAN are pricey (in both points and dollars).
@@sanspotter Scott, Claus here. MAYBE you get the chance to fly the BRAND NEW LH FIRST CLASS CABIN WHICH WILL BE INTRODUCED late 23/early 24 on the A 350. LH will have a A 350 base in Munich. Munich is Germanys richest city. So the demand for FIRST CLASS INTERNATIONAL is very high.
Yep, the nonstops from SAN to Europe cost a fortune in my opinion. This is why my guy and me did choose a flight from Germany via LHR to SAN. The "via" did mean less airfare. We live 50 % in San Diego, 50 % in Germany. Justin is a San Diego dude born and raised here. Can you please give us a piece of advise how to fly "somehow cheap" to Honolulu in Business class? Thnx have a good one.
To be fair, this experience was way better than most Air Canada reviews. I’d prefer Air France, though. Great and amusing trip report.
Thanks Colin! I was supposed to fly Air France on the way back, but a booking snaffu (it was my own ignorance really) resulted in flying KLM out of AMS instead.
An excellent business class. The more on the plane the higher the cost. I love old first and business class seats from the 90s.. your vid tonight is A- . NOW put on smooth hotel jazz piano lounge music for the taxing and takeoffs if you want. That music was to hard. You had on.
Does Incogni work in Canada?
Not at this time. Just the US and Europe for now.
At last a chicken and rice review! Even if it’s a lounge variety.
On the plane too! Just like old times. 😄
@@sanspotter I saw chicken, but no rice. Or was I mistaken?
this is exactly the same product as every other AC wb jet, why is it not as fancy?
The colors / materials they use for business class in newer aircraft are much more sophisticated IMHO.
@8:06...lol high res imagery
Given how old that screen was, it was probably 720p, but still. 😄
Wouldn’t be the same from you without the chicken or the loo video! Liked your review!
Thanks! Maybe I need to figure out how to combine the chicken footage and loo reviews? That’d be next level content!
I was disappointed when my upcoming Tran-pacific flight got 'downgraded' from 787-9 to 777-300ER. Is funny that I also got 5A. Not sure why the change as 787-9 is 25% more fuel efficient than 777-300ER. So AC's decision to burn more fuel on a 10+ hours flight makes little sense to me. If it decided to switch back to 787-9 (not likely), I wouldn't pick 5A as it has only 1 window. On the bright side, I can still enjoy the Signature lounge instead of the inferior MLL.
Surfshark?
Incogni (by Surfshark) 😆
Great review. I sort of sense the 777's (all) are being phased out completely. They all did their job prior to the 787's and hence the aircraft colour. I may be wrong. I think people still think the 777's new, but in reality worldwide, not at all.
Yeah, I’m not sure what their plan is for the 777. Seems like they would need the capacity but who knows…
The aircraft get painted in the new livery on it's next scheduled heavy maintenance visit. AC's B777's will be around for quite awhile.
Agua di parma amanity kid - Impressive
I actually had to Google it after I got home to see if was a good brand or not. 🤦🏼♂️😄
@@sanspotter Indeed it is. It's quite expensive. I came across this brand for the first time thanks to Etihad biz. And now I'm using their perfume. Their collaboration worked, at least with me ;-)
Although the Air Canada 787 has better seats than the 777, I like the engine startup sound of the 777.
I can’t disagree with that. The full throttle takeoffs are magnificent as well.
I flew on the Air Canada 787 from Toronto to Bogotá in business class. Safe to say that, I guess because the flight was to South America instead of Europe, the flight experience was far inferior to this, even though flight times are comparable.
I'm loathe to say that there's a racial component to this, but I'll instead chuck it to competition, or lack thereof on the route.
Yeah this is something I’ve noticed on a lot of other airlines as well. The onboard experience all depends on how much competition there is on the route IMHO.
I might be one of the minority who actually hate the toothpaste livery. I really like the new livery much more.
Blasphemy! 🙅🏼♂️😄
Oops! Too bad there’s not a delete button when you need it. Hope you enjoyed your chicken and rice! 😆
Haha, yup, I found the chicken and rice. 😆 Glad you enjoyed the video!
We had the very same menus and we both had the same meals 🙂. I was on YYZ-LHR in Nov. You can check out the video now up on my channel 😉
I haven’t seen the video yet, but I hope you had the chicken. 😁
@@sanspotter Need to understand your chicken joke, however yes I did 😉
My longest flight had been BOS-LHR and back in 2019. I do find it disappointing that transatlantic flights from BOS are so short. When I got to fly domestic from BOS to HNL and back, that was much more satisfying...
Goodbye Surfshark ?😉
They’ll be back. 😄
HOCKEEEEEY
Air Canada does not have the best business class, whatever the plane is.
Air Canada is terrible our flight was delayed by 3 hours to start and when we boarded, 5 minutes later the lights went out, the Captain said it was nothing to worry about. when the lights came back on there was a smell of smoke in the cabin and we were told to get off the plane. 6 hours later we made it, but missed a connection. 😪
Ouch. Not sure I’d be comfortable getting back on a plane that was smoking!
Dearest Scott. This is your number 1 complainer. NO COMPLAINTS about YOU of course.
You know what my husband did ORDER for me on our last trip?? Guess what?? A "shut up" mask which he required me to wear on my face . ..for the entire flight...I did fight him back clarifying that this insulting mask was not created by VERSACE.
Ha, ha I love fights like that. Besides his bad behaviour in this particular case, he is a fantastic, great guy..what else
Going back to your report. Old buddies like me, I just turned 65, should say welcome claus to the new world of inflight service. Forget about the Glory days......
What you got here was a former coach class meal. I was completely shocked how the food was presented to you. Almost no "decoration". CL wear the mask! It is good for me to hear that the F/A`s had been very friendly though. That`s so important!
Scott, please don`t you forget to show the winelist...and which Champagne had been offered. Please!
Sanspotter that was a very typical report from you to watch...and it has been my honour that you gave me permission to do so.
Glad you enjoyed the video Claus! Yeah, I’m so glad that the face mask requirement is gone on most airlines - but I did catch a cold (not Covid) after returning home from my Christmas trip to visit family. That was the first time I got sick since 2019, so maybe the masks do help a bit? I’m sure the Versace one are better of course. 😄 I’ll definitely include the wine list next time!
@@sanspotter My husband punished with the words shut up on the mask. I will always wear masks and not only the VERSACE version
I always wondered why he wore a hat, now I understand. Sorry bro.
I’d kill for the hair I had at 18 years old. 😂
Air Canada does t have the best rep, such goes with government carriers tho think they are non government now ie state owned, but the staff still operate like its state owned ie poor service.
I don’t have much experience with them, but all the flying I’ve done with them over the past few months has impressed me. At least in how they compare to US airlines.
How can you do an international business class review without showing what alcoholic beverages are on offer and show wine lists. There are just so many of these mundane reviews on line these days.
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I don’t think there’s an award for that. 🤔😄
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Congrats to you both. 😆
@@sanspotter Why thank you, good sir! 🤣And great video 🤩
Your attitude is quite off-putting
Thanks for letting me know 😄
Boring!