Did Schillinger Really Kill Beecher's Wife? - Oz Explained
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In HBO's Oz, did Vern Schillinger really kill Tobias Beecher's wife, like he claimed he did? Let's examine the evidence.
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Oz was a lowkey comedy in the later seasons.
It always was from the start tbh. A dark comedy.
Never forget when they put the Chinese immigrants in Oz. People died
@@bobabooey3103 that was funny how everyone, even Said, looked at them like they were about to get graped.
Really? I thought the tone was consistent. Maybe you're refering to when the narrator dies, it's very goofy.
Are you saying that cause the musical episode?
It wasn't a deleted scene, it was in the DVD box set. He admits that he was just messing with Beecher and never had his wife killed.
JK Simmons played that character so well that I still feel on edge whenever I see him in anything else. Even the Farmers Insurance commercials.
I always felt his portrayal of the character was flawless, it’s just J.K. Simmons doesn’t seem like an intimidating dude. Some actors are such kind people in real life, by the time they’re J.K.‘s age, the lines in their face show the kindness in their heart. All the frowning and scowling don’t hide it.
@@PyeOhMy i always shout schillnger at the tv when i see tht ad 🤣🤣
This was probably the show that changed tv
It came before the Sopranos
But in the 90s... you could watch violent shit and talk about it but you couldn't watch REALLY violent shit that involved homosexuality then share opinions with all your work friends
I say that, admitting that the later seasons were disappointing
It may not have been a better show but it got there first and it was really good.
It deserves a celebration similar to all that the Sopranos have received in recent years
Beecher, did she even exisht?
Putting someone like Beecher with a hardcore criminal like Schillinger was all kinds of wrong.
Beecher requested to be moved to Schillingers cell
More videos on OZ!!!!
If Vern killed Beacher's wife, I feel like the writers or Vern would have confirmed it at some point. He was just messing with his head
You should make one discussing whether or not Beecher intended for Andrew Schillinger to get killed or if that wasnt part of the plan. His reaction to his death is really interesting.
My Gawd... I've never seen such a vendetta between two adverse characters.
He had motivation and it makes sense to an extent as he had previously threatened his wife and daughter. He might have thought it seemed cowardly to kill a woman which is why he say he didn’t say he killed the wife when he said he killed the father and son (though surely it’s even more cowardly to kill a child?). But I don’t think he did kill her because he would have made sure everyone knew as he had recently been humiliated by Beecher and would have wanted everyone to know that he got revenge.
I say no, I feel like he would’ve enjoyed Beecher in agony over his wife’s divorcing him and as she unalive herself, Vern saw an opportunity to mess with him more
thanks man not many oz videos
Did hish wife even exisht?
Every night, she'd drink Beecher under the table....
The jail magically got new ranges every other week.
She came at him with a chainsaw. Vern has a right to defend himself
just been blazing through this just got through the dreaded Quinn🐍🐍🐍and then turn round and see him on 30 Rock great actor for sure specially Airheads
Vern was just being an evil sick prick as always. Great job, more OZ videos please ☑️
I don’t think he did. I think he just utilized that letter to fuck with him
A Woman writing a note that’s straight to the point? Maybe it’s true that it was staged.
Definitely.
He definitely killed her😵
Next video: did Said really kill Adebisi?
I think he killed himself, and Said was actually trying to stop him. He had the knife turned on himself when he said "this is how a man dies", he realized he already had everything but would always be stuck in prison. The last thing he did was cutting Said's face as punishment for handing the tapes to the warden, if he wanted he could've killed Said right there. We don't exactly see what happened behind the curtain, but Adebisi had the knife, pushed Said away, right then the camera cuts to outside and we see a blood stain 1 second later. No way Said could or would want to grab the knife and kill him that quickly. Said of course covered for him in season 5 so the other inmates wouldn't think he was a bitch. He still believed he killed Adebisi but that was just guilt from not being able to save him.
What did he do stab himself in the back ? I've watched the show many times and I know that he busts out making it seem he is the victor only to spit blood and fall face down. Then the blood is revealed on his back.
However I've always interpreted it as Adibisi basically commiting a type of suicide-by-cop where he forces Said to kill him when he secretly wants that outcome and basically lets him get the upper hand. Said even remarks about how Abibisi just wanted to die after realizing all his desires being fulfilled wasn't enough.
Adebisi lives!
That is what I thought, but the thing is he was stabbed in the back, which I still find weird because how come he turns his back on saeed in a fight
Beecher killed Dauber. Screw that guy.
This show was obsessed with misery so if he really did have a part in her dying, he would be reminding Beecher every single episode. I think he just heard the news and wanted to stick it to Beecher as badly as possible (no pun intended)
The deleted scene takes part in season 5 during one of the Sister Pete sit downs between Vern, Tobias and Kareem. He basically admits he just said it to fuck with him.
But he lies in those sessions, it still isn't clear
@@whatamievendoingnor is a deleted scene considered canon
By season 3 it was just mayhem. It was all about killing who and how. But the first 2 seasons were great. For the most part. J.K. Simmons is one of the best actors I've ever seen and he was brutal in this show.
More Oz content please!!!
Probably
Only prison without yard
Bigger and less obvious question…..who fathered Shirley Bellinger’s child???
Why is the volume fluctuate so much on your channel.
Lovers quarrel?
Pretty weird that a woman with two kids and wealthy in laws would kill herself...
There’s plenty of real life cases of that happening
This is actually one I've gone back and forth on for years. But I think I've settled on no, he didn't, he just twisted the knife after the fact. Cause one of the only things worse than your wife killing herself if your mortal enemy killing her.
Yes
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nah. Beechers whole family basically got wiped out by Vern. tacking on one more at the hands of him vs. one death actually being (arguably) Beecher's fault. goes a lot further. I'm chalking it up to bad writing.
His brother survived and his mom.
Did she even exisht?
@@mariozd971 yea there was an episode where she came to visit him. I think they even had a conjugal. I can’t remember but the recap says she saw the Nazi symbol burned in his ass.
@@Incel_81 ok well yes that’s true. I suppose it was a bit of hyperbole but I mean.. Schillinger mailed him his toddler sons hand, I can’t imagine he would’ve been subtle about killing his wife.
Edit: also I think that was probably the most unrealistic thing about the show. Vern is just blatantly destroying Beecher, the prison officials know about it, he even admits to raping him in a therapy session and still the prison does nothing. Like… 😂😂 bitch aren’t you a mandatory reporter? You’re looking at a lawsuit at the very least here Oz prison. 😂
@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore Yes, i know my friend, what i wrote here is a joke from The Sopranos, the question Tony asks Big Pussy. I was watching OZ first time in 2004-2005, i was about 21,22 , from that time on i watched OZ 4 5 times. I watched Sopranos at least 5 times, Breaking Bad 2 times, The Wire 3-4 times, Justified 2 times, Ozark 2 times and Boardwalk Empire, Mad Men and other shows once