What would happen if James Toney fight Mike Tyson?
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That guy knows Mike Tyson better.
Respect
He’s not the more skilled boxer than Toney, but is an actual heavyweight, Toney has got 4 or 5 belts in different weight classes.
Tyson is definitely not the better boxer, but he wins due to being comfortable at heavyweight
I think Toney give even a prime Mike Tyson a good fight!
🤣 pffft. Holynuts has alota nerve. James paddled that moron with zero difficulty
@@tekkn_579 is he? He was 217 in His prime, 230 with handle bars. Mike is naturally a small heavyweight, Toney grew into a small heavyweight.
Toney is such an underrated boxer. One of the greats of his era
Didn't let his hands go enough, he's not overrated or underrated. He's exactly where he deserves to be. Boxing isn't about digging punches, it's about damage inflicted. Americans seem to forget about that, look at American judges, they somehow give American fighters the win when the rules clearly state that pressure and damage are the 2 main factors.
*Toney
@@MasterChoder autocorrect got me there, didn't even notice
@@cerberus3426 You obviously don’t know boxing. Let’s keep our insight & outlook to ourselves please 😴🥱
@@cerberus3426you definitely don't know what you're talking about
*"Mike will clean you up"* 😂
Toney is no joke
Toney was great but he won't hurt Mike.. Mike in 7 rounds...
@@lewischarles4279 u mean right now ?
Toney would lose to Mike tyson ko in the 7th round
@@lewischarles4279 how'd he lose by Ko when he wasn't even knocked out even when he was a washed up out of shape fighter in the heavyweight division?
Mike would had been tired after the fourth and Mike never fought a defensive fighter before he’s all power and had lost his elusiveness and head movement so yeah he would had been beaten by decision. Now Mike in his prime is a different story but James wouldn’t had been knocked out
Evander is such a warrior.
Damn i love Evander and to hear him speak like this as opposed to his younger days , its sad. All those punches he absorbed took their toll. Man never backed down from nobody!!!
Sounds pretty much the same
@@LM_357Exactly Evander always stuttered since he was young
Does not mean shit he is saying.exactly what would happen. Tyson prime would murder tony.
I dont know, James Toney Was something serious too. That would have been an epic fight.
James toney would have put tyson lights out for sure ....
@@luciferexperiment8553lmfao he sure wouldn't
Toney was a pumped up middleweight wtf
Sure, buddy...
Epic? A 2 round fight isn't very epic. 1 such 3 round epic fight was marvelous Marvin Hagler & Tommy Hearns
James had great defense....but PRIME Mike ?! Mike will clean you up
pffft
How many great fighters Mike beat in his prime?
@@BlazeBoxing hmmmph
Laugh at you...why did Holyfield iwn Mike ? And James easily beat Holyboy??? He played with him...nit just beat him. James would embarrass Tyson..as a hw..yes..🤡 I know he was a MW. 🤣 at u
@@DJK-cq2uyholyfield was 34 when he fought Tyson and 40 when he fought Toney
The fact James toney started fighting at 160lb is what really is impressive to me and u could still give him a chance Against Tyson
Pacquio
Holly field was a little dude to dont forget he was 178 an biggest he ever got was maybe 220 even tho he looked way bigger riddick bo made him look real tiny
@@MrletemknowNJhe was no chance.
Evander bet on Mike i like this man .
Holyfield lost to James Toney although Evander was past his prime but beat Tyson twice, but I agree with Evander Tyson would've won.
@@trevorcarey3997you don’t know shit about boxing 😂😂😂😂 James toney would’ve fucked Tyson up.
You like him because he said something you agree with? Do you dislike people when they have differing opinions?
@@cerberus3426 shut up casual
Dude, prime Mike is a true killer ☠️
Toney was better P4p but mike would only win from the size advantage
mike would kill him nooo doubt 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
mike beat nobody worth of note in his whole career
killer of tomato cans
his only good W is vs 50 yo larry holmes
dats it@@daroldbennett5080
@@Z4NKA1Mike does not have a size advantage and your opinion is worthless compared to Holyfield
Tyson is much stronger than Toney,the difference in power and physical strength would be the difference. Tyson when he lands, especially when he goes to the body then the head. Tyson was actually better than people thought when it came to defense if we're talking Tyson at his best,and had fast hands.
Toney was best at middleweight even cruiserweight. I think he was way too small for hw. It would be a good fight tho who knows Mike got the power James got the IQ
James Toney was bigger then mike Tyson bra. Mike was a small heavyweight. 216-222 in his prime. Of course James was smaller in size but he grew. And he was slicker then oil and a body snatcher. Love mike but at no given time would Mike Tyson of just beat up James he couldn’t even beat Douglas gtfoh.
@@fucdalaw1 toney is my fav fighter of all time but that being said he wasn't a natural heavyweight. Although he's never been dropped I think he shoulda stayed at middleweight where he dominated everyone except roy Jones. He just never liked to train and got outta shape but his IQ and counterpunches are ridiculous plus he has the best chin I've ever seen but than again he never fought a true heavyweight in their prime.. holyfield was 40 years old and never a big heavyweight.. I think Tyson woulda been a lot to ask
@@fucdalaw1 Samuel peters gave him problems.. granted I think he won but still just saying... Thats not a slight at toney at all he started at middleweight and dominated everyone and had like 90 fights without being kod.. he was a beast
you did know that James beat Holyfield right? he hit hard and could take a punch ....Mike would have problems with him ,he don't want that smoke lol
@@luciferexperiment8553 of course I know bout the holyfield fight and toney has never been dropped I get it trust me I've seen toney in the gym even at age 45 schooling people at wildcard and tengoose hes actually one of my favorite fighters but his prime was at middleweight maybe even cruiser he was only heavyweight cuz he got fat and past his prime I'm just saying he wasn't a heavyweight in his prime mike was so the fight could go either way. Mike hits harder than Samuel peter
Toney took Evander to the wood chipper. I believe a prime Toney and a prime Tyson would of been epic.
That would have NEVER happened with Evander in his prime. He was completely shot in 2003.
@@eac1235lol why wouldn’t it? It wasn’t even competitive prime or not
And a prime Holyfield vs a prime toney would have been epic but toney was 160lbs and holyfeild was 200 . So in there primes they would never meet . Its all what ifs we seen toney use his boxing skills at heavyweight but one could argue that Holyfield was not the fighter he once was . Tyson v toney same thing in their primes there was a big gap in weight toney could possibly out box older version tyson
The way Elie thinks his opinion matters.
lmaooo fr
Holifield knows iron Mike best ever
Says the man who pieced Tython up, TWICE.
The Real Deal is truly humble, & an American icon!
Toney was in with a lot big punchers like Hasim Rahman and Samuel Peter and was never once hurt. He was never stopped once and as far as I recall only down once against prime Roy but it was a stumble/balance shot. He absolutely put it on Evander, but Evander was old. He outclassed him with his ring savy and took him to school. It was hard to watch. I would definitely give Toney a very fair chance at stopping Tyson due to his savy and durability. Toney was/is very underrated.
Toney has never even been drop not even in old age ..tyson would get out boxed
Roy jones knocked him down. What are you talking about?
Gerald stopped him in sparring
@@keysmarcus1 prime roy jones jr is unbeatable nobody in the history of the sport can beat him at 160
Paulie's like, "Evander's full of shit, but I ain't gonna tell him that." 😅
😂😂😂😂
They're both around the same age and height. Would love to see Tyson peek a boo style vs Toney shoulder roll.
Toney has the better defensive, a good counter puncher, and stable mentally
he speak the truth ! ❤
James Toney
I love Holyfield. After all that happened in the past, he still gives props to Mike
I hear Holyfield, but Toney is the Master at rolling with the punches- so it would be hard to get a square shot on him.
People forget after James stopped Evander he was set to fight Jameel McCline in 2004 then snapped his Achilles tendon in camp.
In James' first fight back against Rydell Booker, he snapped both his tricep and bicep muscles.
Throwback fighter.
Evanda is a special guy in this world
Toney wins.. master defense and a steel chin… once tyson realizes he can’t get him outta there he gone get frustrated
Mike tyson ❤
That bout between you and lights out was epic I think your age played a part ,but James beat you kinda like you stole something,
The title should have been “brain damage”
Evander has admitted in a lot of interviews, "when mike hit me, it hurt... I mean it really hurt"
^direct quote.
James is great but he fought holyfield when he was 41
James was 34. He was over the hill too.
@bunnyman6321James didn't take the damage Holyfield did. Toney was a great defensive counterpuncher, Holyfield brawled when he should have boxed. Samuel Peter is why Toney sounds the way he does. Tyson would have hurt Toney bad.
Prime mike was as fast as Roy think about that
he was fast but not roy fast
@@naeemislam1105 if prime Roy is faster it's only by the slightest of margins. In boxing terms one runs a 4.2 40 yard dash and the other runs a 4.3. With Tyson having a better chin and more power. Either way he overwhelms James peak vs peak. At his Peak James is too small for prime Mike.
he is not faster any athletic middleweight would be faster which is logic because they are not as heavy
Lotta nerve from captain Headbutt...Toney owned it with no difficulty..what a delusional road boy
Lotta nerve for a keyboard boy.
I think mike vs toney would have been rough on toney but i think toney doesnt get knocked out i think it would go at least 8 rounds then maybe mike runs into toneys counter right hand and toney out points a tired mike then round 11 and 12 mike probably lands some good combos idk mike shifting side to side would throw toney off but mike aint puting toney on the canvas
Damn, i would say it could go either way, though i would be holding out luck for tony. I looooove tony now, but to have the most deflective fight vs. Tyson...i just dont see him shrugging tysons hits off.
Though that dude (tony) has surprised me before of course.
Respect..woww
MIKE TYSON
Big Mike will....
I’m with Paulie on this one.
Lights out Toney
Tyson with Cus or Rooney kill anyone ,Mike Best ever Tyson.
No, foreman, Ali, Holyfield, and maybe Lennox Lewis would have beaten any version of Mike, so stop your fantasy nerd
@@combatesdeboxeoyou don't have the right eyes to catch the most special fighter then 😂
Kid dynamite 1988 was the 🐐 heavyweight
James Toney. A defensive boxer will always come out on top. Mike would had been tired after the fourth round
James has the craziest chin in boxing, no way mike would knock him out
it's holy's pride talking. he champion's mike's legacy because he beat him, while toney took care of him, he wants to take away from james
I love evander but u hit the nail on the head bro. U got yo keep in mind hollyfield beat Tyson twice but got whipped by Toney
Facts!!!
Facts.
I agree but he may be right. The Holyfield that fought toney was not the same that fought tyson however the tyson that fought Holyfield was not the same tyson from the 80s. The other hard thing to extrapolate is both toney and Holyfield clearly used peds. Holyfield was absolutely sauced in their 2 fights vs tyson. Toney could absolutely beat tyson in mid 90s which is really the only time it was even possible.
@@anglesmcdangles3788All hypothetical scenarios. Your input is worthless.
That’s just bitterness. Holyfield just saying that because Toney scraped him.
Of course he’s going to say the guy who beats him will lose to a guy he’s beat
Nicely said Evander!! 👍🏼
Mike Tyson. (Best- Ever).
Mike Tyson. (Lennox’s son)
Lennox Lewis was the best of that era. Not sure where people get the idea that Tyson was the best 😂
@@atvbass10 fuck outta here Lennox waited til everybody got old to fight them
LOL
you can always tell a true boxing fan from somebody who follows what popular and current ...lol
James Tony best defensive boxer to watch head and shoulders.
The Real Deal knows best.
Lights Out was so fun.. Great boxer... Great chin. I agree tho..Mike wldnt a feared his power n wlda walked him down
Holyfield just keeping it real, don’t be mad cause he ain’t tryna lie just to kick it. ironMikeTyson🐐💯
Mike Tyson all day long
Rangefinder 😊
Appreciate you 👊
Evander is the man
I got to go with Evander on this. I love Toney but I don't see him getting through a properly trained Tyson. Hollyfield has been in the ring with both so he has great insight
That would've been a good fantasy matchup. Because they can both fight in the pocket. Both around the same height and age. Would love to see Tyson against James Toney shoulder roll.
I'll take the (Real Deal's) word.👍
Iron mike lights out james toney
I love you evander holyfiled you are my favorite boxer of all time ♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️
Ellie lying he know dam well middleweight James Tony couldn’t beat no damn Heavyweight Mike Tyson
Yes Toney could.
Toney went the distance with Sam Peters and James never been ko'd
@@bunnyman6321I like James,one of my favorite boxers. But Toney doesn't have the power to get Mike's respect,you have to have enough power to get Mike's respect. If you don't, he's getting you out of there. Holyfield hits harder than Toney,if Holyfield was a few years younger. He would have beat Toney.
@c.antoniojohnson7114 Toney will still beat Mike. Toney make up for lack of power with Boxing ability.
Go watch Toney vs Samuel Peters. Peters hit hard and still couldn't get Toney outta there cos Toney have great Boxing ability.
You don't know shit about boxing
@@bunnyman6321 The first Peter fight Toney clearly won, but he lost the second fight. Tyson has the same chance and is way better than Peter. You have your opinion,I have mine. I do agree with you saying boxers gave Tyson trouble,Tillis was the first to expose Mike's flaws in the early rounds when they fought, but Tyson wore him down,he would do the same to Toney. As I have said,I like Toney. He's one of my favorites. But Mike is a problem.
@c.antoniojohnson7114 You made excellent points; you know for a fact Toney better than Tillis so what happened to Till not gone happened to Tone.
Mike by point
James Buster Douglas. Evander holyfield twice. !!!!
I got James Toney on this.
Paulie i like both guys
The wild part is Evander was beating Mike’s ass before he bit his damn ear off. Lowkey was dissing Toney.
If they fought in 2003 or 2004, I would favour Toney slightly but who knows?
Prime Toney vs prime Mike gotta give it to Tyson but there's no question Toney has more skill and for that alone you can't count him out
It’s only cause James Toney came up from 60. Mike came out at HW.
If anyone know, that is Evander.
Evander ain’t known for his smarts that’s why he’s got like 100 kids everywhere 😂
Prime Tyson wouldn’t even be fighting a prime Toney, who was a middleweight. Toney moved up to heavyweight 15 years into his career. Mike 15 years into his career wouldn’t have been able to handle a heavyweight Toney.
I love Mike more,but Tony is a favorite of mine too,however Tony doesn't have knockout power, Tyson wins....
Question is protective gear allowed in professional fights, reason Holyfield wore a waist guard in his first fight against Tyson..
Tyson
James Toney started too late as a heavyweight for us to really know. I have no idea how he started at 157 when he was a 205 pound 4 star DB
He Said "Mike Gon CLEAN U Up" 😂😂😂😂 I Agree However "Lights Out IS The Man, Phenomenal But NO WAY NEAR A NATURAL Heavyweight & Mike Was AND Had Tremendous Speed ALONG W/ The Killer Power, Mike Woulda Cleaned Him Up...
Prime Tyson vs. Prime Toney id pick Tyson. Hes just bigger and hits harder. Has cardio for days. I dont think the philly shell/counter style is very good against Mikes hard charging constant pressure.
I think the philly shell would be surely better then those stick and move jabbers he fought. Still routing for tyson tho.
@@maximloos3739 It could be if the dude is as slick as James Toney or Floyd Mayweather. Maybe catch him with some nice counter shots. But Tyson is Tyson. The frequency, speed and power of his shots wouod be pretty intense for a flat footed slowpaced philly shell dude. It be interesting to watch. Closest example is probably Ricky Hatton vs. Floyd Mayweather but lets be honest...Ricky aint no Tyson.
@@danielleclair1360 Toney wasn't slow he just didn't move more than necessary
When Toney stick his tongue to Evander let on him a wound that need 1000 years to cure
Holyfield wasnt to far past his prime when he fought Tyson after prison. Maybe not 100% but close to his prime.
Holyfield was old by the time he fought Toney. I don't know why people don't understand this?
I got milk baby
Toney did good at heavyweight in the beginning. But in 03 I think that is when Holyfield and Toney fought, in 03 Tyson still had some fight left I believe to beat Toney. Because if they were talking in their primes, Tyson would have smashed the smaller ( still great ) Toney.
Sam peter hits harder for sure than Mike
Toney can frustrate him and wear him down
James said you can’t make a fighter it has to be in you
I love all 3 Toney Holyfield and Tyson..but I think Evander speaking Real here..asmuch as i truly think Toney oneof the best Boxers of his era period i cant see him having the power to bother a prime Tyson ..Holyfield met Tyson at the perfect moment and fought Tyson when his peak had passed Holyfield was an awesome Boxer with decent power and a great heart and chin..the same could be said of Toney but Tyson wouldve bulldozed through him he beat Holyfield and could withstand big punches but i really think a lot of people truly underestimate how devastating peak Tyson was with his speed combination punches and elusiveness,Mike at his best was an awesome Boxer ..just watch what boxers who actually experienced fighting and sparring with him actually say..and yes he was his own worst enemy firing Rooney was one of the biggest mistakes he made in his life
Take the Mic away from uncle, Toney played with Holyfield and ko him probably a little bit too hard and the real deal forgot about the fight 😂
Tyson under Rooney destroys all
Toney would of whipped tyson if they would fought after the holyfield fight
Paulie shat himself
As if he thought Tyson & Tony were watching
James toney was amazing at any weight but Holyfield was referring to the disciplined mike. Older mike never trained, drank and snorted lots of coke and was wild.
Toney was also undisciplined and lazy.
How can you ask the pro who fought them both and when he gives you has qualified answer you go with the opposite? 😂
James too smart. He like Floyd.
Prime training Toney smokes him
😂😂😂
It’s logic. Toney as a HW was OK, but he does not have an all time great resume as a HW, while he was considered a great MW and SMW, but at that weight he would be too small for Tyson.
So if you take both guys in their prime, you’ve got a HW Tyson vs a SMW Toney. Tyson would have a significant size and power advantage and he would likely hurt Toney. I could be wrong, but Toney doesn’t have a major HW world title on his resume. I think he won one, but got stripped because of a failed test and the fight was turned into a NC. Toney’s win against Holyfield was a win against an older, out of prime boxer. Don’t get me wrong, it was a nice win, but not even close to what it would’ve been 5 to 10 years earlier.
Toney got no KO power.
Totally agree, James Toney was a fat middleweight who happened to beat a old aging Holyfield, Holyfield & Tyson would destroy Toney in their primes four-six rounds.
He is only saying this because he beat Mike twice. And toney out classed Holyfield. Tyson v toney would have been a sight to see.
James has 90 fights never been Knocked out. I think he would easily survive 2-3 rounds then pick Mike apart
I got James Toney