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Cheap Anti Reflective Coating? Don't do it!!
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
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I recently met a guy with a super nice frame, rocking an old school lined bifocal. No problems here to start, but he mentioned having trouble with glare, but I could see the hint of an AR Coating on the front of the lenses... it only went south from there. Watch the video for details!
The take away here, if an anti reflective coating is "cheap" there's a reason for it. The machines to make quality AR coatings are incredibly expensive to purchase, and take up a large chunk of space, not to mention the knowledge required to operate them. Quality anti reflective coating and cheap, are rarely, if ever synonymous.
For more information on anti reflective coatings in general, this blog specifically will help enlighten you further!
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Helpful for me! Thnx for the video.
I'm glad it helped! You're welcome!
hi from iraq doc ... thnx dor your honesty man great vid ... may Allah bless you brother .. 😎 hope u have a great day 🌹
I do! I do! I wanna know more about the coatings!!!
😁 I think you'll find this article a helpful start: thatglassesguy.net/blog/f/no-glare-glasses-what-are-they
tomorrow is record day again so maybe I'll dive deeper into the various coatings and methods of deposition and the results each offers in the long term 😁
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 You da man!!
@@Matt0 thanks! 😎
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 so I got new glasses today that has ar coating water resistant and I'm having trouble with white text on black ground and white light on tv now everything else is fine and beautiful but that especially on my phone had to turn off dark mode had to turn on blue light
@@chriswright8074 what's your rx and lens material? Im going to take a guess that you're myopic and wearing polycarbonate lenses...
I’m so late lol. But hopefully you can answer my questions. I just got my AR glasses but instead of decreasing the glare at night it’s actually increased the glared by a lot. Any reason why it’s doing the opposite of what it’s supposed to be
Odds are you have a "blue blocking coating" which is actually a mirror coating. Or the costing you have has already failed/defective from the factory. Alternatively, you have some uncorrected astigmatism or are experiencing night myopia. These last two wouldn't typically present as "increased glare" though :)
Yeah....I just got the AR on Zenni glasses for Zoom and disappointed that you can still see reflections on them. I had gotten AR on cheap frames a long time ago and they scratched off in just a few days and I had to have them take it off. I thought these would be different.
The Zenni is rather bottom of the barrel in terms of AR, From memory they're still over a 4% reflection (which, notably, is higher reflectance than uncoated glass). I wouldn't judge modern AR coatings too harshly based on theirs, as it's also a spin coat AR (the most failure prone).
@@ThatGlassesGuy03if your glasses are already built with AR lense by default, can I still add another AR coating to block more glare? Would it block more glare?
@@Who-cu9eu absolutely not.
Is it safe to clean lenses with AR coating with cleaners that have isopropyl alcohol in them like the Zeiss cleaner.
In the long term it's less than ideal as it does wear on the coatings faster. Yes you can use it... but as a daily cleaner, I wouldn't. That said, the zeiss wipes are OK as they contain a very low concentration of the alcohol and it's just used to evaporate and leave behind a clean surface faster. Check out my latest video for the best solution for cleaning 😁
Tbh I literally haven't used a spray cleaner in 3 years. Just use a microfiber cloth. If you do it right it gets them just as clean.
I have a question, I just got some oakley frames (pitchman ox8050-1555) with grey poly lenses with polarized and blue mirror.
They seem to perform ok
My powers are -8 left -7.25 right.
Should I think about going with a high index version of this? I want the mirror and the polarized.
What would differ?
OMG Where in the world did my reply go! I hate this app sometimes. At any rate, optically speaking most high index would not be an improvement over polycarbonate (marginally at best). However there are some exceptions to this in hivex and MR8+ both of which have a similiar refractive index to poly with far better optical qualities in all other ways. For a bit more detailed run down on lens materials check out this video: ruclips.net/video/rZhZujG8QKI/видео.html
3rd time is the charm...... Nope #4 maybe. WTF.
@@ThatGlassesGuy03
Ok cool thanks for the reply!
Could I buy through you if I decided to change?
@@advanced8526 absolutely 😁 shoot me an email and we can chat Matt@thatglassesguy.net
Can this AR coating be added after buying the glasses? I swear the reflection on glasses has gotten worse over the last few years just so these companies can sell AR coatings with each pair
Typically not. Many ar coatings fail over time and come with complaints of increased glare as glasses age, so no surprises there. The highest quality coatings can last for a decade easily, especially on a good substrate like cr39, glass, hivex, or 1.60 materials 🙂
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thanks for the quick response! Ah yes I figured that, my new glasses have a massive glare due to me not thinking I would need it as my previous 5 year old lenses had very little glare! I figured the coating was baked on in the lense forming process, I guess I'll wait until I need new lenses!
@@GuitarManDan24 you're welcome, I try when I can :) . Unfortunately you're correct, for a proper adhesion to the substrate its cured at the factory after the lenses are prepped. There are some that can be applied after the fact, but those are plagued with poor adhesion at best, and... well... you're better off without 😅
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 that's good to know! I think I'll wait for the lenses to go dull after time, hopefully there won't be as much of a glare then ahah the ol waiting game
@@GuitarManDan24 haha, poly and 1.67/1.74 index lenses fade to a dull brown/grey/yellow the fastest, so you may be in luck there 😂
I just got glasses with both AR coating and blue light coating, i see blue lines when looking at lights, and If a lamp is on top of me i can se it in the sides of the glasses, but in blue
That's a different kind of coating, and they're overpriced trash (in my not so humble opinion for daily wear... they do have their place). Basically a low reflectance blue mirror front with backside ar like you would see on sunglasses.... but on a clear frame. The blue lines you are seeing are reflections on the lens from that front side blue mirror which is assentually attenuated a very small portion of the blue spectrum (13% of it at BEST).
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 so in other Words, they have not made a fault? Its 2 small lines going kn to the light soruce and, deflecting away as I turn away from the light source, it is insanely annoying
@@Gspook19 correct, just the way those work. More info here: ruclips.net/video/S94ufMW7UlI/видео.html
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 well shit, gotta talk to Them tomorrow, noone told me the light would be so damn annoying, i feel cheated
Hope it goes well 🙂
Speaking of expensive AR instead, how do you compare Zeiss Duravision Platinum to Hoya Hi-Vision LongLife? I'm interested in the anti-glare and anti-scratch properties. Thanks.
Duravision platinum would compare more directly with Hoya EX3+ which has no comparison in the industry in terms of scratch resistance. I'm regards to anti reflection, I give the duravision platinum the edge while still being darn close in scratch resistance to the EX3+
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 Thanks, but it seems they don't offer the EX3+ in my Country. If I choose those lenses, I'll ask the optician.
@@GuidoDePalma it's relatively new, even the older ex3 is impressive if they offer it there. I believe that coating is done in Texas USA, so not sure what availability is like elsewhere 😔. The super hi vision ar is just a step below dv platinum if you choose to go with Hoya lenses 🙂
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 nope, that's the only coating they show on the site with scratch resistance.
Opticians keep pushing generic coatings where i live. So frustrating.
Do u face the back glare problem with them like whenever I stare at a light source like led then I see a very small purple colour bulb reflection projected in front of my eyes which is very irritating for me
Did u experienced it ?
I am using Zeiss drive safe (single vision)
Ahhhh this is an entirely different phenomenon! I've rarely met another optician that properly explains these coatings as what they are. Zeiss drivesafe is a well designed coating *for its purpose, and that purpose alone. Night time FLARE.. often described as glare incorrectly. The short version is... that purple dot you're seeing is exactly that... the purple/blue spectrum of the led partially reflecting off of the front surface (read front side wavelength tuned mirror coating... this is quite literally a carefully selected low reflectance mirror coating designed to reflect away a small percentage of the nuisance spectrum that causes flare (perceived by the masses to be glare). So, yes.. ive seen what you're referring to. Also a property of any and all blue blocking "tech" coatings. Simply a low reflectance mirror tuned to a specific wavelength of light. Largely ineffective and a nuisance. Zeiss blueprotect, Hoya recharge, essilor crizal prevencia et.al. smaller brands such as retinal bliss DES etc etc etc. You are seeing exactly what you think you are. The lens creating the glare you were hoping to eliminate. 😳
All that said.. a CHEAP Anti reflective coating would do more to reduce these reflections than any of the above coatings that are basically mirror fronts with backside ar like sunglasses.
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 thanks brother
@@unquote1579 you're welcome!
I just noticed that my prescription sunglasses have anti reflective coating on both sides of the lenses , is it bad for my eyes to have AR on the front side of my sunglasses ?
Not at all. We do it often over here for color tuning, coordinating with frame choice, and a host of other reasons. It’s perfectly fine and even beneficial. The ONLY negative is the lenses can’t be made as dark in this combination. But make no mistake, that can still be made VERY dark.
So then, is it possible to have glare resistant and scratch resistant coatings applied after the glasses have been manufactured and delivered?
Which scratch resistant coating is best?
Some of the lower end ones can be applied after the fact, but generally most won’t offer this for a variety of reasons.
Sooooo many out there. Any of the thermal cured hard cost varieties today are excellent 👌😎 (as far as big optical names that’s gonna be Zeiss duravision platinum, Hoya ex3+, Shamir glacier.)
@@ThatGlassesGuy03
Thanks. I see east you meant. Thanks for the insight. I'm less myopic.🤣🤓
I like those frames what’s the brand?
These are my personal pair from Etnia Barcelona. This particular piece isn't made anymore, however they do offer another one very similiar. It just has acetate temples as well where mine are metal. I have a video on Etnia Barcelona in my "cool eyewear brands" playlist, you should check it out!!
Oh, and of course, thank you for the compliment! 🥰
That Glasses Guy ok they are so nice.. I’m going to check the video
@@QuieroCake I'm sure you'll enjoy it! They make good stuff at a great price point! Laibach and York is my next pick that's a higher price point but can be totally customized based on what color combinations you want. They're working on a teal accetate that's heavily striated like my bright blue one from etnia for their Amsterdam frame... I can't wait 🤩🤩🤩
That Glasses Guy I just saw their website I love a lot of them. It I love the ones you have the blue ones what is the frame style?
sir, about the cheap coating is there any harm to eye health?
definitely not :) Just sets a pretty firm timer on the lifespan of the lenses :)
When the coatings fail/wear out does the prescription change?
No
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 👍🏼
Suggestions on removing AR coating from older polycarb glasses?
Hi Vicky. Unfortunately most methods of removing AR will also destroy a polycarbonate lens by attacking the material itself :(
Ammonium solves the AR coat but shouldn't affect the polycarbonate plastic of the lens. I've had great success with a product called "Armour Etch" which contains ammonium. I've given new life to three pairs of glasses so far. Two of them turned out good as new, third pair turned out alright but not perfect (the AR coat was heavily scratched). You should obviously not try it on your only pair as it's still a bit of a gamble.
It's definitely a gamble with poly, particularly if the edges are left unfinished. 😁 It is a life saver when it works however!
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 so WITH AR OR Not?
@@kingoflife6472 if it's a good substrate and good coating... with. If your compromising and going for a cheap coating just to get one.. hard pass, they WILL fail and ruin your lenses giving you a shorter life span on the glasses overall.
Dude..I'm sick with the reflection of blue colour on my..should I give it for removal
Best off to go back for new lenses. The coatings these days bond so deeply to the lens it isn't really possible to remove them withoutdamaging the lens :(
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 can I continue wearing it ? At home ?
Coz I cannot understand your accent in the video my bad
@@hadiyashariff4100 haha, you're fine. They won't cause any problems or eye damage if thats your concern :) not many places have the required chemicals and equipment to remove these coatings either. So that's another problem to deal with.
Huh. I only get budget glasses and i never had the AR coating flake off. Didn't believe at first when someone mention it happen to them, but apparently that's a thing. When people spend hundreds on a frame, cheaping out on the lenses seems just wrong, or they have been scammed.
Totally agree! There is some crazy old coating tech being sold out there. There is good budget and bad budget stuff out there 😁. I'm a firm believer in getting the best you can afford, even if thats on a low budget!
Do i need hydrofobic and anti scratc coatings?
Need? No. Generally beneficial? Yes.
Ive had glasses with and without AR Coatings. Its all a scam to milk the comsumer. I could not tell the difference and opt out of the AR coating now.
🤣 you must be a hyperope with minimal if any cylinder correction. And if that's true, absolutely AR is not at all necessary for you. However, that's a very slim part of the population. I quite regularly advise low powerd hyperopes with no cylinder AR is not necessary if cost is a factor. Personally as a moderate myope with an eye for details, it's a huge difference, and the more power and the higher index the lens the more and more of a factor it becomes. For Crown glass in any RX it's not really necessary either due to the way light passes through crystal glass :) There are factors for sure, BUT, for the vast majority of people out there today with some astigmatism and/or myopia, it's definitely advantageous.
Blue blocking AR coatings... those.. that is milking the customer and entirely unethically IMO.. but that's another story :)
Alos just worth mentioning, due to the range of coatings out there today, some are indeed even worse than an uncoated lens when it comes to plastics.
So why that type of glasses are expensive
And the normal don't
Making the coatings is a much more involved process, and when done right is very expensive. Just like basic lenses can range from under $100 to over $1000 for the most premium of lens designs, quality control and production quality are huge factors, there's also a lot of spoilage when seeking perfection further driving up the price :)
Your blue coating won't let me see your eyes
That's what most of the big lens companies sell as a blue blocker. It largely amounts to a blue front side low density mirror. I try a lot of lenses out, but this is far above my favorite pair of glasses, and I've judt yet to have it remade with a proper AR coating... soon though. As I've just had an rx change haha!
@@ThatGlassesGuy03 I almost got this ar coating on my lenses
@@zombiesbride good call not doing it! The truly "baked in" blue blocking is the way to go! Then you can stack a proper anti reflective coating on top, and have far superior blue blocking tech. 😁