How to Use Windows 10 AFTER Microsoft Kills It

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  • Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
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    A third-party company - Acros Security - thinks it has a way to keep Windows 10 secure enough to use past 2025. The product is called 0patch - how does it work, and what are the benefits and drawbacks?
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  • @techquickie
    @techquickie  17 часов назад +21

    Get an exclusive deal on Private Internet Access VPN today at www.piavpn.com/TechQuickie

    • @factanonverba8082
      @factanonverba8082 17 часов назад +3

      Deeznutz

    • @SEN.Dnudes
      @SEN.Dnudes 9 часов назад

      can just getting an antivirus software be more effective

  • @K113-A
    @K113-A 16 часов назад +580

    I still think Windows 10 is 2 years old....

    • @uss-dh7909
      @uss-dh7909 13 часов назад +15

      We all do. -.-

    • @username-mb2qh
      @username-mb2qh 10 часов назад +23

      While Windows 10 came out in 2015 it took quite a while to pry people off Windows 7.

    • @freemank8207
      @freemank8207 10 часов назад +10

      ​@@username-mb2qhalso in my personal experience, it literally took until the first half of 2019 for windows to be actually good. At least, I used to consider windows 10 Trash until that time.

    • @kellyngrey4950
      @kellyngrey4950 9 часов назад +4

      Same. Feels like just yesterday. God I'm old.

    • @naufalap
      @naufalap 8 часов назад

      ​@@freemank8207meanwhile I immediately jumped since my laptop was on windows 8
      also not needing to manually find and install wifi drivers from usb stick is a huge advantage when installing windows 10 compared to windows 7

  • @Happy-f6x2p
    @Happy-f6x2p 16 часов назад +454

    Windows 10 didn't die. It was MURDERED.

    • @ayush21399
      @ayush21399 13 часов назад +4

      True

    • @Rmm1722
      @Rmm1722 12 часов назад +3

      Yeah 😅

    • @fakealizer8280
      @fakealizer8280 10 часов назад +2

      it last 10 year though like all other os

    • @WackoMcGoose
      @WackoMcGoose 8 часов назад +3

      It's a Program, it was _derezzed_ ;)

    • @Catmeowfs
      @Catmeowfs 6 часов назад +1

      That’s why I use windows 11

  • @TheKdcool
    @TheKdcool 17 часов назад +509

    This surprisingly looks like a virus

    • @abdullahpoyraz2838
      @abdullahpoyraz2838 17 часов назад +86

      kinda works like one too

    • @pyce.
      @pyce. 16 часов назад

      If it looks like a virus, behaves like a virus then it must be... absolutely SAFE and we should all embrace and endorse it, right @techquicke? /s

    • @JACKOFALLFATES
      @JACKOFALLFATES 15 часов назад

      @@abdullahpoyraz2838 no, it doesn't. it acts like a game cheat. Exactly the way CheatEngine works.

    • @lopserdff
      @lopserdff 15 часов назад +6

      imagine Linux has viruses on linux files 💀

    • @Lebon19
      @Lebon19 12 часов назад +12

      .........yeah........ A reason against using this. If a bad actor hacks the company, it can push an "update" to basically make everybody vulnerable to something and/or push other malware through the software's own security issues that weren't discovered.

  • @pyce.
    @pyce. 16 часов назад +326

    Like I'm gonna trust anyone to inject code into running processes...

    • @pyce.
      @pyce. 16 часов назад +69

      This was a horrible free ad, for a terrible service.

    • @rakon8496
      @rakon8496 16 часов назад +12

      ​@@pyce.Yeah. At that Level of complexity.. Cant do that. Sounds like a scam to me.

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 16 часов назад +46

      I mean, you've trusted Microsoft all this time and they're the worst adware company on the planet

    • @marvnch
      @marvnch 14 часов назад +11

      Yeah LTT really missed the mark here, wtf

    • @ProtoType4588
      @ProtoType4588 13 часов назад +28

      welp throw msi afterburner away and hwinfo64 and reshade can go ow and forget about afmf from amd that is injection based same for the original anti lag + also turn off autohdr that is a injector and enbseries also do not use nvidia's truehdr thats a injector
      man the list goes on and on ow and don't forget every anticheat program is injector based aswel
      good luck living like the guy that swore he never will own anything from samsung wait till he finds out that components inside the devices he uses are made by samsung XD

  • @alguem5996
    @alguem5996 15 часов назад +84

    At this point, I'm just considering buying more RAM for my laptop and then run Linux and just have a Windows virtual machine for the three or four programs I regularly use that aren't compatible with Linux.

    • @Pittoors_
      @Pittoors_ 13 часов назад +10

      Do it.
      If you play on steam it's very likely all your games will work right out of the gate with Proton (Steam's compatibility layer). Only exceptions are games with iffy anticheats, you can use proton db to check what games are compatible. I switched almost 2 weeks ago I and love it, takes a bit to learn and you have to be patient but it is not as hard as I thought.

    • @fish.boy76
      @fish.boy76 12 часов назад +4

      Another thing to consider is that a lot of Linux alternatives exist for popular Windows software as well, so if you didn't want to mess with VMs maybe consider that as an option too.

    • @bottlerat2318
      @bottlerat2318 10 часов назад

      We need more people like you :)

    • @xtherieldealx
      @xtherieldealx 9 часов назад +2

      There's also Wine, even easier than running a VM.

    • @cmdr-reflipd
      @cmdr-reflipd 6 часов назад +1

      WineGE too!

  • @Krushx0
    @Krushx0 17 часов назад +342

    Windows 10 IoT LTSC is the answer.

    • @LinuxPlayer9
      @LinuxPlayer9 17 часов назад +7

      Indeed

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 17 часов назад +27

      Is this one of those editions, where it's difficult to get a legit license from Microsoft?

    • @corey7219
      @corey7219 17 часов назад +18

      Windows 11 iot ltsc 24h2 is also a good idea. Zero tpm, security checks, and doesn't require uefi

    • @SimonBauer7
      @SimonBauer7 17 часов назад

      who cares? Microsoft doesnt care either. just pirate it. massgravel exists.​@@markusTegelane

    • @1pro_isepic
      @1pro_isepic 17 часов назад

      @@markusTegelane no go search massgrave

  • @squirtle88
    @squirtle88 16 часов назад +55

    what is the "Microsoft: $61 USD/year" price at the end? Is that a service microsoft is offering to keep windows 10 updated????

    • @THE-X-Force
      @THE-X-Force 16 часов назад +23

      Yes.

    • @jgstrider
      @jgstrider 16 часов назад +24

      Yep pretty much. If you want updates from Microsoft for Win 10 beyond its end of life thats the price for official updates.

    • @japzone
      @japzone 16 часов назад +18

      So businesses can pay for an extra year of updates. Price doubles every year though.
      They haven't clarified what options will be available for your average Joe though.

    • @homermorisson9135
      @homermorisson9135 15 часов назад +17

      @@japzone Options for the average Joe?
      Easy: none.

    • @Jon717
      @Jon717 12 часов назад +4

      That's the ESU program starting price per device for businesses. Regular consumer pricing hasn't been disclosed yet. The program will only run for three years, with the price doubling each year. IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 lasts until 2032, so the program is pointless if you're not running a business.

  • @Failsy1
    @Failsy1 16 часов назад +101

    I'm just mainbooting Linux at that point and using Win10 selectively.

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 16 часов назад +3

      This is the way, but best to keep win10 on a separate computer entirely and remote in with moonlight or something.

  • @Mevi
    @Mevi 16 часов назад +33

    Something, something, Linux, something

  • @aleksimoose
    @aleksimoose 16 часов назад +26

    Just install Linux Mint

    • @oacoello
      @oacoello 52 минуты назад

      No apps, no use

    • @aleksimoose
      @aleksimoose 10 минут назад

      @@oacoello There are apps. What you on about?

  • @Pumpkin8_
    @Pumpkin8_ 17 часов назад +99

    Yeah, Windows 10 is better than 11. I remember Windows 7 was so good 😢

    • @NegativeROG
      @NegativeROG 16 часов назад +7

      I wouldn't switch off of XP until I had constant game crashes. I was forced onto 7.

    • @vn.ninefive
      @vn.ninefive 16 часов назад +18

      XP is better than Vista. Vista sucked ass, fuck Vista. Windows 7 is better than Windows 10. Windows 10 is better than Windows 11.
      Next thing we’re gonna say is Windows 11 is better than Windows 12.

    • @CyanDumBell_MC
      @CyanDumBell_MC 15 часов назад

      @@vn.ninefive more like win11 is the current vista

    • @alguem5996
      @alguem5996 15 часов назад +3

      @@vn.ninefive I honestly don't doubt Microsoft somehow making Windows 12 even worse than 11.

    • @darkbeetlebot
      @darkbeetlebot 13 часов назад +6

      @@vn.ninefive Vista didn't suck ass, your computer at the time sucked ass. 7 was literally just Vista with a new coat of paint and like 2 new features.

  • @TTM1895
    @TTM1895 15 часов назад +40

    I'm still experimenting with which flavor of Linux I'm going to move to. I'm done with Microsoft in their bull.

    • @cubeskywalker4953
      @cubeskywalker4953 9 часов назад +4

      Nice! I hope you find what you're looking for. I chose Linux Mint. What ever you choose, don't let the occasional loudmouth-neck-beard push you around with "YOU ARE USING THE WRONG DISTRO!!!!! YOU SHOULD ONLY USE ARCH!!!!" 🙄 Just choose what you like, and stick with it.

    • @-----------------------------
      @----------------------------- 6 часов назад

      ​@@cubeskywalker4953in other words, just go with anything that's Debian based cause it just works

    • @Blackfatrat
      @Blackfatrat 6 часов назад +1

      Just remember the distro mostly doesn't matter. For new laptops, arch or manjaro usually are the best simply because otherwise you might not get the newest drivers for wifi chips etc, older things anything will do really.
      You can reinstall just the ui.
      Linux mint and KDE both have windows friendly uis. You can have KDE on many distros, so kubuntu, manjaro etc. In the end, it's just a ui and not the biggest deal out there.

    • @wiseoldfool
      @wiseoldfool 36 минут назад

      I've been using Zorin for years. Works for me.

  • @social3ngin33rin
    @social3ngin33rin 17 часов назад +289

    We should class action sue Windows...they advertised that Win 10 would be "the last windows OS"

    • @Mario583a
      @Mario583a 16 часов назад +4

      Jerry Nixon: good ... good...

    • @hardlyworgen71
      @hardlyworgen71 16 часов назад +13

      People who bought "the last convertibles" in 1976 tried to sue General Motors in 1986 when expected rollover regulations never happened so GM brought back convertibles.

    • @lorenzomarchesi1471
      @lorenzomarchesi1471 16 часов назад +4

      They could argue that technically windows 11 is just an upgrade of windows 10 and since you can get it for free (if you have win10) they just kept windows 10 but with a different name.
      Unfortunatelly, one is WAY worse than the other

    • @NoTraceFound
      @NoTraceFound 16 часов назад +30

      They literally didn't. There was a single windows engineer that off handedly said it "could be" in an interview and literally every single tech news company ran with it like it was God's own word, making everyone believe it. They never intended it to be the last windows.

    • @ryx007
      @ryx007 16 часов назад +1

      Do you even know what a class action lawsuit mean bruv?

  • @D4rkBl4de
    @D4rkBl4de 17 часов назад +119

    I updated to Windows 11 on my work laptop and I HATE IT. I want to keep Windows 10 in my personal PC.

    • @ApesTogetrStrong
      @ApesTogetrStrong 17 часов назад +30

      Personal Personal Computer?

    • @cinderwolf32
      @cinderwolf32 16 часов назад +7

      Yeah... I can suggest searching how to revert most of the changes. Almost all of the visual ones have something you can change, at least for now.

    • @gameoverguy7223
      @gameoverguy7223 16 часов назад

      Lol

    • @ford1546
      @ford1546 16 часов назад +5

      Win 11 isn't directly bad, it's just different than Win 10.
      What you can do in win 10, you can do just as well in win11.
      I don't like the look of win11. I think it's naked and ugly and lifeless.
      Win10 is a little bit better.
      There are things I don't like so much about win11,
      But the things you want to do you can do in win 11 without any problems!

    • @martinivanov1319
      @martinivanov1319 16 часов назад +1

      rip in peace

  • @maxpolaris99
    @maxpolaris99 16 часов назад +55

    already have Linux installed

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад +10

      I swapped to linux this very week, kinda loving so far. :)

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 16 часов назад +2

      Me bredren

    • @thabg007
      @thabg007 15 часов назад +3

      yep, im planning to switch to Linux Mint, testing it in a VM for now. If you think about it, most of the internet (servers) use linux. Your Android or iOS device is UNIX at its core along with linux and MAC OS

    • @GuilhermeSilva-pn6rm
      @GuilhermeSilva-pn6rm 15 часов назад +3

      I'm about to switch also. And im excited! Specifically linux mint or zorin os

    • @FlameSoulis
      @FlameSoulis 14 часов назад

      @@GuilhermeSilva-pn6rm I personally like Mint, but I've tried Zorin. It's pretty slick.

  • @stephenanthony5923
    @stephenanthony5923 15 часов назад +15

    Easy and best solution: Linux

  • @HenningJohansen
    @HenningJohansen 16 часов назад +337

    My answer to the Windows 10 problem is to switch to Linux. Microsoft has forced this on us.

    • @Spladoinkal
      @Spladoinkal 15 часов назад +18

      The companies could donate their computers to me and I'll run Linux on them! :P

    • @apple_m2_delight
      @apple_m2_delight 15 часов назад +1

      womp womp

    • @sangeethsujith6396
      @sangeethsujith6396 14 часов назад

      just install windows 11. run chris titus windows utility tool and remove everything you dont need. But cant help americans who are reluctant to a UI update and cant figure out what is on the screen

    • @pacifico4999
      @pacifico4999 14 часов назад +12

      ​@@apple_m2_delightno, noot noot

    • @wyattroncin941
      @wyattroncin941 14 часов назад +13

      That's my plan when they stop providing support for win10

  • @FlameSoulis
    @FlameSoulis 14 часов назад +28

    Just use Linux Mint or wait for SteamOS to come out. I've had no issues gaming, watching videos, or even doing work (when Crowdstrike nuked my work machine!).
    (Honestly, I'd just say install Mint, since getting Steam is the same process as installing it on Windows, but I have a feeling SteamOS is going to be one slick boy)

    • @kliajesal4592
      @kliajesal4592 11 часов назад +2

      SteamOS is out (HoloISO, ChimeraOS) but it's really more of a gaming console OS than a daily driver. Linux Mint or Kubuntu would be the best route for most people to go.

  • @MyouKyuubi
    @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад +22

    Or, you can install Linux, that also works. :)

  • @etw5600x
    @etw5600x 16 часов назад +29

    Trying as hard as possible not to switch to Linux, huh

    • @GuilhermeSilva-pn6rm
      @GuilhermeSilva-pn6rm 16 часов назад +4

      Yeah i think he is but idc because I'm gonna switch to linux either way. So

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 16 часов назад +10

      "I don't want to spend all day setting up an os"
      Proceeds to spend all day installing different versions of windows 10 until they find just the one that gives them the sweet, sweet update juice they looking for until 6 months from now when it doesn't

    • @jfolz
      @jfolz 15 часов назад

      @@lpnp9477 I'll take tinkering to make my PC do something I want it to do over dodging dark patterns any time. Besides, there's hardly any tinkering left to do on Linux these days. The most tinkering I did to my Fedora install was to disable the fingerprint reader when the lid is closed...

  • @indigomizumi
    @indigomizumi 16 часов назад +54

    I'll be a Windows 10 holdout as long as I can.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад +4

      And then, either swap to a reverse-engineered win10, or Linux, and you'll live happily ever after.

    • @alexcerzea
      @alexcerzea 14 часов назад +5

      ​@@MyouKyuubiI'll recommed just going to linux, we don't know what the hell they put in those reverse engineering windows builds

    • @SmolPotatowo
      @SmolPotatowo 13 часов назад +1

      @@alexcerzea Don't you still have to do a bunch of nonsense to get windows programs and games to run though? I just wish windows 11 didn't go all rounded and gross looking.

    • @WilliamHollinger2019
      @WilliamHollinger2019 12 часов назад +1

      ​@@SmolPotatowotrying to be a macos lookalike.

    • @Jon717
      @Jon717 12 часов назад +2

      ​@@alexcerzea There's no reason to use custom ISOs anyway. Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 is supported by Microsoft until January 13, 2032.

  • @MattersChris
    @MattersChris 15 часов назад +12

    Just get linux

  • @blink55667
    @blink55667 15 часов назад +9

    I forsee an apology video coming out for this episode after Acros inevitably gets shamed doing something dodgy. 0:47

  • @light-gray
    @light-gray 15 часов назад +11

    Linux: 🗿

  • @SimeJoja
    @SimeJoja 16 часов назад +51

    How about Linux

  • @LiteralBeans
    @LiteralBeans 16 часов назад +109

    Nah I’m going linux
    Update: windows is gone. All Linux now. Gonna set up a VM with windows for anything that NEEDS windows, but that’s it. All my drives have been reformatted, all my games are reinstalling, all essential data backed up. LETS GOOO LINUX MASTER RACE

    • @briffsqueeze4063
      @briffsqueeze4063 15 часов назад +15

      I made the switch, do it, it’s worth learning

    • @lopserdff
      @lopserdff 15 часов назад +4

      Linux is good an all but I'm sticking to windows idc if its targeted by viruses!

    • @normalguycap
      @normalguycap 12 часов назад +2

      I need to do this. Can you suggest some resources to begin learning?

    • @orlagh277
      @orlagh277 12 часов назад +4

      You didnt really need to reformat all drives, linux doesnt pretend ntfs doesnt exist like windows does for ext4

    • @LiteralBeans
      @LiteralBeans 12 часов назад

      @@orlagh277 I was having some issues and I can’t be bothered troubleshooting. This WILL 100% fix the problem so I’ll do that

  • @peq42_
    @peq42_ 15 часов назад +10

    Just move to Linux Mint

  • @roseredthorns
    @roseredthorns 16 часов назад +52

    I switched to Linux Mint. I'm never looking back

    • @yaroslavpanych2067
      @yaroslavpanych2067 16 часов назад +1

      Wait till you need something a little bit more complex and useful than text editor.

    • @notjustforhackers4252
      @notjustforhackers4252 16 часов назад +3

      @@yaroslavpanych2067 Such as?

    • @Anonymous4045
      @Anonymous4045 15 часов назад

      @@yaroslavpanych2067Lemme guess, "adobe" lol

    • @Bob_Smith19
      @Bob_Smith19 15 часов назад +9

      @@yaroslavpanych2067You’re leading w/ your ignorance. Most of the enterprise world runs on Linux. Mint is more than capable for non-enterprise users.

    • @thabg007
      @thabg007 15 часов назад

      which Linux distro did you decide to go with? Mint?

  • @juanitogalera5033
    @juanitogalera5033 16 часов назад +13

    Probably will change to linux if windows 11 doesnt get better

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 16 часов назад +3

      Why wait

    • @Gelonyrum
      @Gelonyrum 14 часов назад +1

      Be sure, it won't get better) :D

    • @Reed_Peer
      @Reed_Peer 10 часов назад

      24H2 is worse than you can imagine

  • @monty846
    @monty846 17 часов назад +59

    Reinstall W7

    • @CyanRooper
      @CyanRooper 16 часов назад +10

      Based solution

    • @namesurname4666
      @namesurname4666 16 часов назад +1

      Microsoft made it difficult to install all updates on older oses, it takes days... A solution I found is isos with included updates

    • @r3mpuh
      @r3mpuh 15 часов назад +6

      Reinstall Windows XP

    • @HarvardHeinous
      @HarvardHeinous 12 часов назад +2

      Never left it.

    • @rhyami
      @rhyami 11 часов назад

      I can't find words to tell you how much I would like to do just that. I lost Windows 7 because my laptop died, and the new one I got had Windows 8. I hated that so much that I upgraded to Windows 10, hoping it would be an improvement. It was, sort of. It's not what I want though. It still feels like computing with a condom and a straight jacket on around half the time. I have seen Windows 11 though, and it's much worse. So for now, I am fighting to stay on this hill because I really don't like what's on the next.
      I am blind and don't know if I could manage reinstalling an OS since speech usually doesn't come up until most of the installation is done. Should I ever find a shop who could fix my laptop by putting Windows 7 on it, you will hear a sonic boom as I rush off to get it done. :-) I have some disability specific apps that only run on windows and that do not have equivalents on Linux or Mac. That is what has kept me in the windows ecosystem for so long.
      In the end, I will probably end up getting a Mac and doing some sort of virtualization for windows, just to run the few apps I need to use. at least for now, that makes the most sense to me.

  • @Aduhkiss
    @Aduhkiss 15 часов назад +23

    Lets start pushing for Linux

    • @FluffyChops
      @FluffyChops 11 часов назад

      I think most of us already have been for the past like 5 months. But yeah lets keep pushing and get value to keep pushing to make all games linux supported after all they really have already made great progress for linux gaming.

    • @ARandomInternetUser08
      @ARandomInternetUser08 5 часов назад

      @@FluffyChops if the popular games like Minecraft, Fortnite, CoD, Apex, those kind sof games, get full support for Linux, I'm fully switching. That's mainly the reason I haven't switched fully yet, and Minecraft runs so poorly on it even compared to Windows XP.

  • @MacDKB
    @MacDKB 16 часов назад +37

    So people should rely on a singe private company to reverse engineer security patches for Windows that are impermanent, & reside only in RAM ? Are you serious? No, really: ARE YOU SERIOUS? GET REAL, dude lol... Just install Linux. Or, get a Mac.

    • @orlagh277
      @orlagh277 12 часов назад +6

      Getting a mac isn't really a solution for not wanting to scrap your perfectly good machine that microsoft decided is "unsafe"

    • @Jon717
      @Jon717 12 часов назад +4

      Or just install Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021 and get free support until January 13, 2032.

    • @uss-dh7909
      @uss-dh7909 12 часов назад +1

      Pfft, "get a Mac", sure...

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 7 часов назад +2

      Or just run Windows 3.1 on a 386-SX, baby! Sx for sexy coprocessor support!

    • @MacDKB
      @MacDKB 3 часа назад

      @@raylopez99 This. 🤣

  • @Tilt_TM
    @Tilt_TM 17 часов назад +31

    I will switch to SteamOS if they release it for desktop before W10 EoL.

    • @notjustforhackers4252
      @notjustforhackers4252 17 часов назад +5

      Why? What's so special about Steam OS?

    • @Tilt_TM
      @Tilt_TM 16 часов назад

      @@notjustforhackers4252 It’s Linux but has extremely good game compatibility. I’ve used it on a Steam Deck and it’s great.

    • @cameronbosch1213
      @cameronbosch1213 16 часов назад

      Use Bazzite. Bascially SteamOS but for more devices.

    • @jightning
      @jightning 16 часов назад +2

      Perfect time for it to come out

    • @dingusdong
      @dingusdong 16 часов назад

      @@notjustforhackers4252you can play all the steam games, stop asking stupid questions

  • @ylette
    @ylette 16 часов назад +27

    2025 will be the year of the Linux desktop

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад +2

      Maybe not, but maybe in 5-10 years, we'll see a year of the linux desktop, that's only if things go well for linux, and badly for, literally any other OS. :P

    • @GuilhermeSilva-pn6rm
      @GuilhermeSilva-pn6rm 15 часов назад +4

      I hope because I'm gonna switch also 🙏

    • @FluffyChops
      @FluffyChops 10 часов назад

      Sort of feel it be more 2026 will be the year of linux there is gonna be quite a group that will stay just bit longer + October to December isn't that long amount of time to really declare it year of linux when most even myself will stick with windows 10 all the way up to the end.

    • @fakealizer8280
      @fakealizer8280 6 часов назад

      No one will go to Linux before macOS.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 6 часов назад +2

      @@fakealizer8280 I did. MacOS was never an option for me lol, i want to actually play games! xD
      On linux mint right now, it's pretty good. :3

  • @asinglefrenchfry
    @asinglefrenchfry 9 часов назад +5

    Here's the definitive answer that can't be shared by a huge tech channel on youtube (because there's no easy or legit way of getting it without p i r a c y): Use Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC 2021. It will be supported until 2032.
    In my experience with it, it functions exactly the same as normal Windows, but doesn't come with any preinstalled apps, besides Edge and the basic windows 7 apps.

  • @quoctuantran9627
    @quoctuantran9627 12 часов назад +19

    After watching the video and read the comments say "just switch to Linux". But, even when there are some Linux distros are user-friendly, not collecting your data and installing bloatware, will a "lay person" willing to switch? Heck, do they even care about Windows are doing stuffs I mentioned above or worse, don't know Linux is a thing. I've known a guy restore decade-old laptops and gifting them for extremely poor children in my country, and he still install non-enterprise Windows 10 on machines only have merely 4GB RAM at best. So yeah, for the everyone who have watched this and all the tech savvy out there say that "Linux is much better" or "just use the Windows Enterprise version", please know that most of the normal people who are using a computer just either don't know/don't care about it or just play it safe so they just stick to Windows instead.
    P.S: English is not my main language so forgive me if I make any mistakes.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 7 часов назад +2

      Yeah I hear you. In the Philippines I set up Kiwix on old hardware that needed Windows 10 on a CD that was 4 GB or less, a special version, forget the version, but modern distros of W10 would not load on a CD, just so the kids could use Wikipedia for their homework assignments since they didn't have good internet back in the day. They finally got internet recently tho.

    • @jackthatmonkey8994
      @jackthatmonkey8994 5 часов назад +1

      If you're that disinterested in computers what does it even matter at all.

    • @Root174
      @Root174 3 часа назад

      ​​@@jackthatmonkey8994 because they would still want something that is officially supported and thus safe to use.
      Most non-techies want something that works, but ideally something that they know. They are not that into tech. Switching to another OS (or version of Windows) is also too daunting for many.

  • @Vattsu
    @Vattsu 17 часов назад +16

    get linux mint or some distro like that at this point

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад +1

      I did, it's awesome!

  • @mamaharumi
    @mamaharumi 16 часов назад +34

    Win10 annoyed me, but 11 legitimately pisses me off. To the point that I have finally switched to Linux (for the most part). I hope one day I can forego Windows altogether, as I have lost all faith in Microsoft.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 15 часов назад +5

      I went linux cold-turkey, dude, it's totally fine, lol.
      if you REALLY need windows for anything, it's better to just VM it.

    • @kliajesal4592
      @kliajesal4592 11 часов назад

      The only thing I use Windows for is FiveM because that's my wife's addiction. If it weren't for that, I would have nuked Windows from my computer years ago.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 7 часов назад

      @@MyouKyuubi You need modern hardware for VM. My ten year old uP won't cut it. But I did install Linux Mint and was impressed that it could do simple things like LibreOffice, Firefox, and that's about it (it choked on a few other Windows substitutes). So for granny's PC that uses Gmail I might migrate to Linux, as that's all she needs.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 7 часов назад

      @@raylopez99 Linux mint can do way more than just that though, lol. And to my knowledge, VM doesn't require modern hardware, it just requires you allocate a decent chunk of resources to the VM, so that windows can run in it, which could, depending on what kind of computer you have, and what you intend to run in that VM, be rather demanding.
      For a VM machine, for example, i'd recommend 32 gb of ram minimum, for example, as you'll be able to allocate half of that to the VM, which allows you to play most games on the VM just fine.
      The fun thing about this, though, is that you don't need to VM windows 10 or 11... You can VM ANY windows version, which means for a VM of windows 98 for example, you wouldn't need to allocate 16 gb of ram, you could allocate like 4 gb... And since it's a VM, your actual computer will be perfectly safe from cyberthreats. :)

    • @25566
      @25566 6 часов назад

      ​@@MyouKyuubiBasic things like discord not working well out of the box bother me (web version of discord sucks)

  • @Keaton.
    @Keaton. 16 часов назад +18

    I'm just waiting for Windows 12... Windows 11 is literally unplayable. lmao...

    • @lpnp9477
      @lpnp9477 16 часов назад +3

      Why let yourself get caught in this never ending cycle? Who's to say windows 12 won't be worse?

    • @kirbys2997
      @kirbys2997 15 часов назад +6

      Because windows has a pattern of good,bad,good,bad almost like it's intentional to keep them in the news.

    • @Reed_Peer
      @Reed_Peer 10 часов назад

      @@kirbys2997 I have a feeling all versions that follow 11 will be considered 'bad' and no 'good' version after 11

    • @PffingAlexeyPetrov
      @PffingAlexeyPetrov 7 часов назад

      it may be more worse than previous ones

  • @glew374
    @glew374 13 часов назад +11

    This seems kinda sketchy and it feels really weird of LTT to even bother making a video about it... from the information presented in this video - this has red flag written all over it.

  • @DTStheTDS
    @DTStheTDS 15 часов назад +5

    I know it's redundant to say, but it might be better to just go with Linux alternatively. Not saying right now, there's still a year left to enjoy Windows 10 as it is, but eventually you will have to consider other options. Linux will take time to understand but that's anything new you're not familiar with, like Windows 11. And the reality is nothing is ever going to be perfect. It's just a matter of deciding on what are you willing to tolerate.
    Side note: It will be interesting to see what happens after that due date though. Many companies and people will be flooding the used market with some decent computer hardware, so something to look out for. That would be a great time to explore Linux on a second-hand computer then.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 7 часов назад

      Linux Mint user here, and back in the 90s I dual booted RedHat and NT. But I think for most users, and that includes me and I program as a hobby, Linux is not really a good option unless you want to just surf the net, use the excellent LibreOffice as a Word substitute, and use Yahoo/Outlook/Gmail as your email and calendar. But for many people that's all they need so go for it.

  • @Reed_Peer
    @Reed_Peer 10 часов назад +11

    AAA game devs need to make their games compatible with Linux natively

  • @1HotLegendLS
    @1HotLegendLS 16 часов назад +4

    Don't you mean downgrade to Windows 11. That's like saying you upgraded from a Honda to a Nissan...

  • @JustAGuyYT1
    @JustAGuyYT1 17 часов назад +96

    i use arch btw

    • @bruhmaxxer
      @bruhmaxxer 17 часов назад +24

      Linux users never beating the yapping allegations lmao

    • @JustAGuyYT1
      @JustAGuyYT1 17 часов назад +2

      @@bruhmaxxer lol

    • @itsSujeetMahto
      @itsSujeetMahto 17 часов назад

      I knew I would find you.

    • @Broshan69
      @Broshan69 16 часов назад +1

      I use Linux 6.10.10-arch1-1 btw

    • @maxpolaris99
      @maxpolaris99 16 часов назад +3

      I'm lazy and unmotivated I just install Linux Mint btw

  • @murdey
    @murdey 16 часов назад +12

    I think the solution for me is to just finally move permanently to Ubuntu or Mint

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад

      Is swapped to mint this very week, highly recommend, it's not perfect, but it's a refreshing change of pace from winbloat! And it works for 95% of your gaming needs, the remaining 5% being the anticheat games that DIDN'T enable the "support linux" checkmark. xD
      Also satisfaction from using mint is generally higher, because you don't have to think about what microsoft is planning next to screw you over... You're literally free, it just improves your overall mood, lol!

  • @GarbagePlateROC
    @GarbagePlateROC 17 часов назад +10

    Windows 11 sucks. So many bugs it’s unbelievable.

  • @adrenaliner91
    @adrenaliner91 9 часов назад +11

    Fun fact: In German uninstalling is deinstallieren.

    • @ursulmusic
      @ursulmusic 5 часов назад +2

      In Romanian it's "dezinstalare", not sure how much fun of a fact it is though

  • @genstian
    @genstian 17 часов назад +201

    Naa, just upgrade to Linux.

    • @thor.halsli
      @thor.halsli 17 часов назад +31

      Can't play my multiplayer games with the boys on Linux. I rather be social and unsecured then secured and alone

    • @CyanRooper
      @CyanRooper 17 часов назад +23

      Nah, just upgrade to TempleOS

    • @anonymoususerinterface
      @anonymoususerinterface 16 часов назад +10

      @@thor.halsli ??????

    • @_HonkeyKong_
      @_HonkeyKong_ 16 часов назад +12

      I'd rather just never use a computer again than switch to Linux

    • @CinnaChee
      @CinnaChee 16 часов назад

      ​​@@thor.halsliI swapped from Windows 10 to dual-booting with a distro called Bazzite a couple weeks ago. It's targeted specifically at gaming. It works really well, even in multiplayer and games with EAC! If you're interested, I'd say give it a shot.

  • @lukenaegle5014
    @lukenaegle5014 17 часов назад +10

    time for linux desktop then :)

  • @dustypants9326
    @dustypants9326 16 часов назад +4

    Soon my dual boot will become one

  • @Hoci940830
    @Hoci940830 12 часов назад +3

    I use W10 till software makers starting to not support W10, same reason forced me to switch from W7 to W10 (my reason was Assasins Creed 3 I really wanted to play it).
    I think maybe if Chrome and Firefox and Nvidia and Eset Nod32 starting to not support Windows10 that will be my deadline to think about buy a new a laptop and go to something else.
    (It's a shame to throw away an Acer Predator Helios 300 because it's processor is not supported by Win11, okay the GTX1060 with 6GB of vram and the I7 cpu might be outdated but for me it's still enough for gaming like for Quake2 Enchanced or for Metin2).
    I think using an AV softvare rather then Defender might be a survival step (I prefer Eset's solutions, you can easily find keys for it in Facebook groups).
    I have a same opinion with Jody Bruchon, Windows11 must be stopped, just rise your middle finger and don't change to anything from W10, they will need to make critical patches if we still use it in great numbers.

  • @jfolz
    @jfolz 15 часов назад +16

    A better plan:
    1) Install Linux
    2) Donate $27/year to a FOSS project of your choice

  • @yvs6663
    @yvs6663 16 часов назад +3

    well i think linux user base might get a bit of a jump, at least among the tech savy folk. now of course there is the potential solution of simply installing windows 11 on unsupported hardware.

  • @YoSomePerson
    @YoSomePerson 17 часов назад +15

    Windows 11 still doesn't allow to move my taskbar to a non primary monitor. So I stay on Windows 10 as long as its reasonably safe and without many issues.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад +2

      Linux is also an option

    • @YoSomePerson
      @YoSomePerson 10 часов назад +3

      @@MyouKyuubi Its not and you know it.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 7 часов назад

      @@YoSomePerson What? No, dude, Linux is legitimately an option! You have no idea how far Linux has gotten over the last 5 years.
      It competes with windows now, of course, it's not perfect, but anything you'd need to do on windows, you can do on linux.
      The only exception is like, Adobe software, and if you REALLY need to use that, you could use a Virtual Machine via Linux, and simply run Windows via that VM to use that software. xD
      I'm a gamer, i swapped to Linux Mint like a week ago now, dude, it's actually good! xD

    • @UmbongoEnjoyer
      @UmbongoEnjoyer 5 часов назад +2

      @@MyouKyuubi Heard the same thing from Linux enthusiasts since forever.It's great for headless servers. It's terrible as a desktop OS for anyone but an enthusiast. I swear by Debian for servers here, but there are no viable desktop options. It's not even close.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 4 часа назад

      @@UmbongoEnjoyer I'm not a linux enthusiast, i used linux, for the first time in my life, a week ago. I'm just some gamer boy.
      I'm telling you, it's good!
      Try Linux Mint, or Bazzite... I use Linux Mint atm, but Bazzite seems like a great option for gamers too, especially console players, as it's got similar functionality to SteamOS.
      Your opinion on Linux, is outdated by a decade, lmao. Seriously, TRY IT.

  • @claycassin8437
    @claycassin8437 15 часов назад +10

    Just go bareback. It feels better.

  • @chadvanderlinden9548
    @chadvanderlinden9548 15 часов назад +3

    Patches are "applied" and "yanked".

  • @yuvalne
    @yuvalne 4 часа назад +2

    how about instead of exposing yourself to vulnerabilities or paying to keep yourself safe, move to Linux? it's free

  • @matthewparker9276
    @matthewparker9276 13 часов назад +4

    Wild that updating system files would flag as a security issue, but injecting code into a running program doesn't.

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 7 часов назад +2

      Yes. And from the other comments apparently anti-cheat software and even some Microsoft software does the same thing. It boils down to who do you trust? If you trust your game developer and Microsoft I guess you can trust this European company? I'll wait but am leaning to paying MSFT if they offer consumer support.

    • @teknixstuff
      @teknixstuff 6 часов назад +1

      @@raylopez99 Might be better just to get W10 LTSC 2021. It has support until 2032.

  • @privacyvalued4134
    @privacyvalued4134 15 часов назад +2

    Nah. My answer to the Windows 10 update problem is to just not update Windows any longer after EOL. I barely update my computer as it is thanks to group policies stopping Windows from automatically downloading and installing updates. I've already disabled TPM in BIOS so that Windows thinks it can't upgrade in the first place.

  • @diskdrive123
    @diskdrive123 14 часов назад +2

    Perfect, the thing protecting my computer from infections and attacks is easily disabled and reversed!!!

  • @lorenzomarchesi1471
    @lorenzomarchesi1471 16 часов назад +2

    We've already seen how, if there is a major risk, ms will cover also unsupported OSs (see winxp in 2016). I'll just stick with win10 and just be a little more cautious

  • @bahamutbbob
    @bahamutbbob 15 часов назад +2

    I'll just migrate from legacy to whatever and get the free upgrade to 11 if I have any problems.

  • @davidellis1355
    @davidellis1355 16 часов назад +2

    When they force me from 10, I have been running a Linux gaming pc alongside, won't be much of a change for me.

  • @fedoruccio
    @fedoruccio 14 часов назад +2

    I do not believe any second that this was not the advertisement… sry, but I’ve lost you here… BS

  • @vr0k3n
    @vr0k3n 16 часов назад +2

    I just got a pirated copy of the LTSC version. Fuck Windows.

  • @vinacar
    @vinacar 12 часов назад +2

    and then you get banned in every game you play

  • @ElgarL
    @ElgarL 14 часов назад +9

    I'm still using Windows 7 with zero issues.
    Behind a NAT so no IPv6 vulnerability and a couple of manual updates for things like encryption exploits.

    • @jackthatmonkey8994
      @jackthatmonkey8994 5 часов назад

      Your security models depends on the websites you access being secure and non-malicious. NAT is not much more than denying connections from outside of your network unless you connect to them first

    • @ElgarL
      @ElgarL 4 часа назад

      @@jackthatmonkey8994 While somewhat correct you seem to be unaware of the recent wormable IPv6 Windows exploit which would allow remote code execution simply by throwing packets at an IP address CVE-2024-38063. Being behind NAT completely mitigates this attack.

    • @ElgarL
      @ElgarL 4 часа назад

      ​@@jackthatmonkey8994 While somewhat accurate you seem to be unaware of the recent exploit (CVE-2024-38063) which is completely mitigated by NAT. IPv4 behind NAT with no IPv6 pass-through means no exploitable remote code execution.

  • @blubb7711
    @blubb7711 5 часов назад +2

    People still use windows?

  • @Pyracantic
    @Pyracantic 15 часов назад +3

    Microsoft is going down the slop hole

    • @raylopez99
      @raylopez99 7 часов назад

      EnS*itification as Musk called it.

  • @PhxSt0rmz
    @PhxSt0rmz 9 часов назад +1

    Only reason I'm still on 10 is simply because "it works" as my last two systems have never once had a crash/issue thus far on 10..so I got no desire to hop to 11. Have used 11 in public spaces before, feels much the same. So yeah. No plans here. Keep things as-is with my unactivated copy since I just bypassed that watermark and keep on running with it.

  • @hardlyworgen71
    @hardlyworgen71 16 часов назад +3

    "P I A" also means "Pain In Arse".

    • @doujinflip
      @doujinflip 10 часов назад

      PIA doesn’t provide WireGuard configs for manual loading to routers and such, so I switched to providers that do.

  • @rayzz13376
    @rayzz13376 16 часов назад +15

    Windows 10 without updates is still more secure than that WIN 11 full of spyware and bloat.

  • @Wupdog
    @Wupdog 15 часов назад +5

    I kept using win7 until I couldn't play games I wanted to play, and I plan to do the same for win10

  • @norl0002
    @norl0002 16 часов назад +2

    The surface Go(2018) I purchased is a good example how Microsoft just doesn't care if you purchased a $1000(CAD) directly from them and proceed to release a windows update it can't receive. Super mad/annoyed they pulled that. Never trusting a Surface product again!

  • @Hopgop1
    @Hopgop1 14 часов назад +2

    Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last OS, I'm keeping it for as long as physically possible, probably until Windows 12.

    • @Reed_Peer
      @Reed_Peer 10 часов назад

      Should've gone for Linux

  • @TheElusiveReality
    @TheElusiveReality 16 часов назад +2

    this is great, there's nothing wrong with my pc and i dont even like windows 11 so i will not be "upgrading" for as long as possible. Love to see some competition

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад

      Also, if you need to reinstall an OS, you could always use Linux! :)
      I strongly suggest flashing a usb drive with Linux Mint, it's nice having one of those, especially if you're in a tight spot, for whatever reason... Like for example, your computer got infested with something real nasty, and the only way to get rid of it is to reformat. ;)
      It's a nice emergency solution!

  • @IsaacFoster..
    @IsaacFoster.. 5 часов назад +1

    You know I'm just gonna use Windows 10 with the last update until I can't use it anymore and switch to Linux

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k 11 часов назад +1

    When Windows 11 is so disliked, that a company believes they can make money from giving people to option to avoid using it Windows 11.

  • @CoolJosh3k
    @CoolJosh3k 11 часов назад +1

    If the option is pay money to become Windows 11 compatible or pay money keep using what you want (Windows 10)…

  • @mayankjariya7148
    @mayankjariya7148 10 часов назад +1

    so code injection- just like trainers and cheating software. anti cheat gets triggered.....

  • @_____alyptic
    @_____alyptic Час назад +1

    Imagine it breaks stuff, that'd be wild

  • @probablyyourneighbororsome8412
    @probablyyourneighbororsome8412 13 часов назад +1

    The more people use linux.. the better it will get
    The longer you avoid it the more you are feeding microsoft

  • @_Digitalguy
    @_Digitalguy 15 часов назад +1

    Many are assuming that prices for 3 more years of support will be too high for anyone to bother. Some say, based on education prices (under $10 for the 3 years) that prices for consumer may be much lower than prices for businesses (already annouced). Paying something like 10 + 20 + 40 dollars (for 1st + 2nd + 3rd year) might push some people to just pay a small amount rather than bother with other solutions....

  • @likebot.
    @likebot. 14 часов назад +1

    NO, f***kit, I'm switching back to Linux before the end of support for the Windows-10 gui. What's funny is that patches to the kernel for Windows 10 users will end in a year while Windows 11 users will get it, yet it's the same kernel.

  • @Albinisiert
    @Albinisiert 14 часов назад +1

    Could this Methode Trigger some Anticheat Measurements? Since they alter some Parts of the RAM and many Anti Cheat Programms check for such Things.

  • @MaD0MaT
    @MaD0MaT 14 часов назад +1

    Because my home PC have so much precious data on it... Some save games and few pictures? Not worth backing up let alone paying for some risky, unknown, probably malicious "update".

  • @realcartoongirl
    @realcartoongirl 13 часов назад +1

    last time i heard windows 10 as a service now like normal window 😂

  • @elone3997
    @elone3997 15 часов назад +1

    Call me skeptical but I don't think this will end well (assuming it gets going at all)..Privacy & security concerns makes it a hatd no from me.

  • @_GhostMiner
    @_GhostMiner 17 часов назад +29

    You just keep using it as nomal. The only difference between 10 and 11 is Windows 11 having shltty UI and more junk features.

    • @shapourdashtpour63
      @shapourdashtpour63 16 часов назад +1

      😂

    • @social3ngin33rin
      @social3ngin33rin 16 часов назад +3

      I see Windows is going back to their old ways and not learning from Win Vista

    • @markarca6360
      @markarca6360 16 часов назад

      ​@@social3ngin33rinAnd Windows 8, as well!

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 16 часов назад

      literally, lol

  • @4ryan42
    @4ryan42 15 часов назад +1

    I'm going to make my mother upgrade before the EoL for Win10. Her PC is from 2011, and it has lived a long life, but it's time to go.

  • @231pilot
    @231pilot 14 часов назад +1

    Already switched all my family and friend's PCs/Laptops to Mint Cinnamon!

  • @ms9001
    @ms9001 14 часов назад +1

    keyword "pay" for security update. it's basically a money grab

  • @KyleDavis328
    @KyleDavis328 15 часов назад +1

    As a satisfied daily user of Windows 11, the solution for ineligible computers is to run Linux.

  • @tigersusyt
    @tigersusyt 8 часов назад +1

    Nah, people will get Linux

  • @seanbrockest3888
    @seanbrockest3888 14 часов назад +1

    Given the number of people still using Windows XP, I think we're okay.

  • @MIOG_MIOG
    @MIOG_MIOG Час назад +1

    Laughs in IoT LTSC

  • @ScottJohnson-v1r
    @ScottJohnson-v1r 13 часов назад +1

    Windows 11 is 3 years old and nobody wants it

  • @levelovixor
    @levelovixor 15 часов назад +6

    The moment i can play random unknown/old video games on linux no hassle then im switching to linux

    • @gogglesow1358
      @gogglesow1358 14 часов назад +1

      Have you tried the games you want to play? Almost all games on steam are compatible with linux now except those with kernel level anticheat

    • @omiorahman6283
      @omiorahman6283 4 часа назад

      You can play older games on linux using lutris
      The games I tried so far worked
      Some older games require dgvodoo 2 to run properly like Clive barkers undying
      It’s better to run windows version of the game in Linux using wine instead of linux version
      Games like legacy of kain defiance needs some tweaking to run but other kain games run fine

  • @yaroslavpanych2067
    @yaroslavpanych2067 16 часов назад +5

    So no updates, so what? Not the end of the world. Worse that removing built-in suport of IPX they cannot do anyway.

    • @JB2X-Z
      @JB2X-Z 14 часов назад +1

      You say that until they start asking W11 exclusive kernel extensions that are also added to their development environment that will prevent developers to develop for older versions of Windows, even if they don't use those kernel extensions.
      Happened VERY easily for W7 and W8.1, it'll happen to W10 too