I guess they do try and make the worst possible scenarios, dark skin against bright background, low light... It's just the nature of the tests I guess and not a real world scenario. Anyone would change the composition to find a better and more pleasing angle/light
Sony is good in hdr. Except it doesntuse it when using eye auto focus i think. Then all the math power of the cpu and gpu go the eye auto focus and it turns hdr with it off
@@namelesssnitchyNot really, HDR can be enabled with eye AF, but not in portrait mode (at least with the older version). That's why the background was blown out. What made it worse is indeed Marques skin tone which Xperia has not optimised for. That said, even flagships from Apple and Samsung including Chinese brands struggled with his skin tones, with only the Pixel properly handling the situation. It's not unexpected given how Google bragged about their "Real Tone".
@@pixels_per_inchmkbhd team literally knew only pixel done true tone processing for dark skin tone and they still proceed with this one dimensional test. Why? To manipulate and force their thought to viewers
I've heard from RUclipsrs, who have actually thoroughly tested the device, that there is quite a difference between the basic mode and the proper auto mode, with the latter apparently being much better. In addition, I've heard that HDR is disabled by default, which would explain some bad shots. So many reviewers are like "well, there's the basic mode, the equivalent of a point and shoot mode on other devices, and a couple of complicated manual modes. Let's compare the photos with the iPhone ... Erm, the iPhone is better, you're better of with it." It appears they don't bither to properly test the Xperia devices because they aren't as popular, which is a shame. Anyway, keep up the great work as one of the people on RUclips doing Xperias justice. Regards from Germany.
Appreciate that thank you ☺️ in all fairness, like I said in the video Sony should make it less awkward for new users and make 2 camera apps, one which will fare just like the Samsung's and apples of the world with dumb full auto / processed HDR and can be used at the click of a finger and a second app aimed at enthusiasts which would basically photo pro app minus the basic mode. Would make things soooo much easier and less complicated for people who just want to take day to day photos like 90% of people.
I purchased the phone recently, used Basic and Auto and Manual modes on the phone app. Actually lost hours trying to actually learn to use the camera. When I'm outside the camera is very good, 9/10. I had a Zenfone 7 pro and I can say I didn't really feel the difference, in fact I actually perceive it as a downgrade, not on just camera, but phone overall. I want to like Sony, but I'm tired of it. It's just not a phone for me, I just can't understand how it works, idk maybe I'm dumb. For my day to day use 21:9 is awful on youtube. Sony is very good on audio thou. I can't feel the 4K display, but I can feel the creator mode display mode. And yeah, I use Android 14. I will return the phone in a couple of days and return to my old Asus. I wanted to like this phone, on paper is very good, but dammit I just cannot use it as a daily. PS: No it's not the colors of the photos, I really like the colors and I'm a big fan of real life colors. It's just ... the photos are really weird inside. Outside they are nice. I think there is some overall clarity of the photo that my eye is used to. And let's be honest, I would like some AI on the camera because it's a wide lens not a normal 50mm, at least fake it a little.
I see where you coming from and from what I've seen, a lot of people could do with a separate app for those who just want a good result without having to delve into the complex manual mode, a bit like the apple camera app where "it just works" . Now when it comes to the manual modes that's where to me the Sony shines. Coming from years of using DSLR cameras the interface and menus is like second nature and where the sensors really shine as you can really push the end result. I made a video (in fact my very first video) going in depth about what all the menus do and the concept of photography talking about the interactions between shutter speeds and iso. Give it a watch, it's fairly long but like I said "in depth". Hope it helps 👍
While I believe I understand what you wanted to say (and as a fellow photographer, I agree with most things you said here), I believe it was a great test since 99.9% of people are using their phone cameras this way - point and shoot. And it doesn't matter if you have a RAW option, better color science etc, the idea here is to see which phones take photos that most people like and are happy with them. Yes, they are mostly over saturated, over exposed and sometimes too sharp, but that's irrelevant here.
Absolutely and I don't disagree with it at all, I never said at any point it was wrong but I just wanted to address the fact that at first glance, a novice or someone who has never used a Sony phone might think (and rightly so just going by the results) that it's a rubbish camera phone when in fact, it has much more going for it than the competition, it just isn't for everyone and I gave the reasons why and how Sony could change all that IF they really wanted to ! 👍
@@fantasytky28 What kind of difference does it make - image quality wise - if it's landscape or portrait orientation??? Also, if the biggest issue for a smartphone camera is the color of subject's skin... This is not a pixel peeping kind of test. It's a real world test that's perfectly fine.
Nowadays a phone that produces natural looking photos with no over saturation and no over sharpening and artificial looking hdr are hard to come by, at least we have Raw DNG now, and that actually fix most of the issues.
The thing is, phones now are so capable that they have their own color science, processing, etc. Some know how to do it, others go for too much. That doesn't mean one or the other is bad, that's a matter of taste after all The tricky thing is first, that big reviewers can't be called reviewers when they test a phone according to what they know/want, instead of checking if the phone does what it's advertised for. Then, I'm not saying I'm a Sony camera phone master, but I've never got such a bad picture like the one that looked bad, even point and shoot is great in my opinion. And I just switched from a 13 Pro (that doesn't rank well either in these types of scenarios), that a lot considered to be along the best shooter.
I very much agree with you, it's all about taste, it would be like comparing a Fuji and a Sony camera, they both have their fanbase and have very different ways of interpreting colours ! It all comes down to use case and taste. In terms of reviews it's very hard to not fall into the "niche market" if you go too in depth when you talk about these things and that's definitely not something a channel like MKBHD would want, they want to appeal to the wide audience, who as we know, just want that bright saturated image, but yes I absolutely get what you mean 👍
to be completely fair. I'm sure mkbhd and the huge team behind knew only pixel done true tone for dark skin people and yet they decided to proceed with this extremely one dimension dark skin portrait alone shows how manipulative they are. Blind test show nothing if the test sample itself is extremely biasedly one dimensional
Well, it was an extreme taboo to have beauty filter for men, and now people are accepting it and then some. I find most of smartphones, especially iPhone, to be garbage with their extreme sharpening and plasticy skintones.
Very true ! When taboos become the norm haha and completely relate with iPhone, I used to have the 14pro max and whilst the shots are really good it just isn't the blank canvas you get with the likes of an Xperia raw 👍
@@UpsideLens It's when you try to be superman when it's ok to be just a normal strong man. Phones now are 100% better than phones in 2008. My photos of my Sony C905 still look authentic and so much character without any added sharpening. People mostly consume content through small 6" screens because if those people watched the same photos in large screens, like I'm doing 99% 1.5m away from my 55" 4K TV using my PC, those photos are laughable to say the least. And then iPhone when shooting RAW it looks really good but why there is no option for authentic photography? Also vice versa with Xperia, why not just give those people what they want and have a pro app with auto mode in it that seeks originality.
Sony did pretty good in Versus channel video released 4 weeks ago and Asus phone won the competition. It was a blind test too. AI will sometimes give you good photos and sometimes it will destroy your image completely. It happens with all phones including iphones. In iphones AI brightens up everything to a similar level making the image look really flat.
Anytime I wanted to fool some dumb ass non-photo geek I just upped the sharpness and saturation on my photos that I edited and sold. They sell better than normal photos because they pop to the eye ,but it doesn't mean they are better photos. I've done it so much even my Mom is onto me now she says "don't do that thing where make all the colors look fake." She' learning.
I do agree, but it is a fact most people won't and will make a decision/purchase based on someone telling them / showing them " facts " ( and please do notice I put facts in between brackets lol )
That’s I keep repeat for decade… I want a camera that shot reality instead to please my eyes. Then I can use the raw file to create more appealing colors if I want it. One of the reason I stay on Xperia and Alpha is Colors Sciences. I don’t want manufacturers auto editing especially when you can’t disable it like on IPhone… ( I have 14Pro and Xperia 1 Mark IV). I hope Xperia 1 Mark VI will have latest censors for all camera and not only on the 24mm. Good video keep doing and I would like to see you talk about Cinema pro and see what you can do with it. Oh and one thing I really miss on Xperia is Timelapse , so when Timelapse Pro will come 😅… It’s a big missing feature to me… So am force to use DJI app.
I think it is a rumour at this stage, but we'll soon find out. It would be a nice addition even though it would definitely not a solution as each scenario is different. Sometime you may just need an ND16 and sometimes you might need a ND1000.
I have been using Xperia 5 II for more than a year now and most of the folks who check my social media are curious what camera I use for my films and photos. They produce amazing natural photos which are a treat to color grade. Night videos are amazing, night photos ...not so much. But I believe the 5 V has resolved the night mode.
They do indeed make photos look natural and phenomenal especially when using the full manual mode. For night photos I highly recommend using manual mode as opposed to the basic night mode, you will achieve much better results and will be able to control noise much better too. My last video was all about low light photography go check it out 👌
@@UpsideLens Indeed manual mode looks much better in nighttime! That's a shame for Sony's programmers, why don't they make a proper night mode in Basic?
Another perspective to look at this is that, the target audience for Xperia are never the same as how other phones manufacturer does, especially how the company push the product through ads and reviewer hands on. (at least not in my country in terms of it's exposure). In fact, they doesn't purposely shift the direction to cater the majority market, just like a lone wolf with their own thought. Those who had experience with Sony alpha camera, definitely could jump in right away with the so-called "recognizable" camera UI. Shot in auto mode is an option, the manual mode is where you see this beast start shining, and also where the price goes. Not a professional myself but from a hobbyist point of view, photo taking nowadays with AI can be convenience, also at the same times interfering. It is great if the backlight lays directly on the camera lens, yet some phone camera still able to tone down the light with the help of AI. Sony probably doesn't, and that's where it reminds you to move the position. (learn to photograph) Agree with not all eye candy color make the best photo, but I guess it could be subjective things. What's so cool about this is raw photo capture, and the ability to edit it afterward is insane, giving user more freedom to play with, hence making it a mirrorless alternative in pocket size.
Nice video dude i appreciate your videos you're making about this phone, like you said its definitely not a point and shoot and not a one shoe fits all phone. And that's what i like about it you have more freedom with the camera than most phones on the market also the video pro app is great.
Yeap definitely agree, it's not a camera phone for everyone. But that's the point... It could be !! If Sony listened to requests, if they contacted me I'd be more than happy to have a chat with them about it haha
To be completely fair I do remember a video when the 1 V came out where he praised sony quite highly for doing what they do but just like I said he said the phone in its current state might be too niche, and it's perhaps true, they need to embrace change whilst keeping their DNA in it that makes the Xperia an Xperia phone 👍
Seeing S23 ultra comes way behind the S23 just tells you so much about these test, my wife has S23 ultra and it is unfair for a phone with that caliper to come in 15 place
To be honest going purely for that 2 second glance and voting I can see the S23 winning over the Ultra since the 200mp sensor will have a harder time gathering as much light and producing a brighter photo overall than a small sensor... Hence the result here which again is not a question of how detailed the shot is but more of how bright overall it was and no doubt the S23 would beat the ultra in that regard
@@alyousuf that's no true, there is NO proof that larger sensor will produce more noise in low-light situations... actually in the video they were doing standing takes, so I believe there is some bias towards some brands.
It was until I got my Sony Xperia 1 iv that I realised most of the camera comparisons are crap. I can't see myself going in for any phone as my primary shooter aside an upgrade to my Sony phone. A real telephoto lens and not the gimmicks other phone brands have. Sony has a way of taking and presenting photos that is different from all other phones
I agree that QOL things make it hard to go back to another brand ! For me it'd have to be the 3.5mm jack, the half press shutter button and the photo pro app !
My Xperia 1 V is still out of action but i think things people don't always consider is how they want their phones to look. Most people I've seen using mobile photography want pictures that look just like what they see I've got some awesome portraits in basic but I like to use the different lenses and settings to get the image I want, then use an editor to make it what I really want. Also agree I doubt the firmware was updated. I think Sony did a great job with the 1V unfortunately the customer service is starting to get to me.
Sorry to hear you're having issues with yours. Tbh that's not a side I've had to experience. I know apple is top notch in terms of CS, Samsung was abysmal when I needed it the most, but Sony touch wood so far haven't had to deal with them as such. And yes absolutely agree with the fact everyone will use cameras differently hence why I recommended splitting the photo app into 2 distinct ones, which would help the ones who don't care much about photography to get those juicy / processed shots and enthusiast can still enjoy a natural shot via photo pro app.
Tbh I'd like to think he does, MKBHD wasn't always the big multi million subs channel, he has a clear focus on tech and a very clear passion for standing out from the crowds by always pushing the envelope and I don't believe for a second he would have got where he is now without such an eye for detail and being so perfectionist without understanding colour science and composition. I regard Marques HIGHLY for it's production value and like I said to someone else he is very charismatic. Now I don't specifically agree with everything he says but you have to remember he caters for the masses not just for the maybe "too niche" photographers market and as such videos like this one are always a hit with the general public 👍
Thank you for the video, I consider buying Xperia 1 V, 1 VI (or what will be the name) and agree with the idea of two apps, with more up-to-date auto mode for the public. In fact, I was thinking about it after seeing the blind test too and was wondering why the auto mode in Sony phones usually is not competitive. I also spotted the discussion on reddit, that the phone from the blind test might be Xperia 1 IV and not V, someone claimed that because the author showed all the phones at one shot during the video and the camera setup on the back probably looked like the older model... Anyway, I am happy that I find your channel and you have one new subsciber!
Thanks for the sub 😀 and yes there was a mistake in his video only on one of the products shots, however if you pause the moment they take the portrait shot you can clearly see it is the 1V and not the 1IV. Whether you go for the 1V (which is pretty well discounted by now) or wait for the future 1VI I'm sure you won't be disappointed 👍
@@UpsideLens we have the xperia 5iii and I can tell you it has a nice camera. Actually I don't see any upgrade between Mark 3 and 4 even the optical zoom is a downgrade. What do you think?
I've not had the 5V in hand but it is very similar to the 1V minus a few features but at a lower price. Definitely a good little phone without the telephoto lens. As to the android update, it did not bring a major feature the 5V got that did upset a few people, and not gonna lie, I was one of them ! Still waiting on that 48mm focal length 🤔🤷
Never too late to learn 😉 I have a few videos about how to shoot in few manual as well as how to edit mobile phone photos. In my view the Xperia line up as an "ok" basic mode but it really shines when shooting in manual and pro mode. Nothing wrong shooting in full auto and jog but you wouldn't be able to get the results you will see on my channel straight out of the camera, or of any camera since they are heavily colour graded / masked if that makes sense. All really depends what style of photography you go for 👍
And to be perfectly honest thats exactly where Sony is missing the trick here ! They should cater for both markets, and such videos wouldn't place the Xperia right down the bottom. Maybe like I said in the video, having 2 separate photo apps would do just that. Give the average person who doesn't care much for photography as a hobby a pleasing bright and over the top saturated photo but also give the opportunity to us enthusiasts an app to take things to the next level ! They have the bases right, it's just a matter of getting those blinkers off and realise there is a huge potential !
i personaly think , at least that is with my 5ii, that if eye autofocus turns on it shuts off hdr. It seems it uses all its power math of gpu and cpu for eye autofocus which in itself in some situations isnt bad. i hope sony will use the hdr instead more often, this would be maybe possible if sony uses face auto detection instead. but i dont know. hope they makle that option of using the hdr more
Sony definitely needs to work on the software side of things that's for sure, at least for all the auto/basic modes. For full manual it is excellent though and HDR is not a feature I'd normally use myself as I like the least amount of processing in my shots.
Better basic auto mode would be nice (even if another app), but I was never expecting the Xperia to smash this challenge. It is not focused on point and shoot. I was more surprised how the Xiaomi 13 Ultra went so bad (2nd last judt above the Xperia) despite being touted as a point and shoot camera focused phone.
See that's what I would like Sony to improve in their next iteration, a more simple and novice friendly app that just works, without having to worry about "Sony colours" give the people that processed look they're after and desperate for and the photo pro app for the enthusiast keeping it as natural as it currently is. That's my wish anyway.
@@UpsideLens I absolutely hate that idea. This is the same kind of thinking that cost us the headphone jack. Color the audio, use Bluetooth, I need my phone thin so it's ok to seal that battery in, I want edge to edge screens so you can put that hole in my viewing area, I don't use all that storage so I don't mind losing the memory card slot. Thank God for Sony.
I explained at length in my other video about my wishlist for the Xperia 1 VI go watch it it'll make sense. They need to have 2 photo apps, not just one trying to do a bit of everything and confusing everyone in the process and ending up being clunky. 1 photo app for noobs and the everyday shots that gives that over the top processing, and a 2nd PRO photo app that takes the best features of the current app and adds even more much needed features (zebras, bulb mode, bracketing...) Whilst giving the least amount of processing to the raw files.
I love sony all the time, ps1, sony mini disc, sony tapes, etc etc etc..and mind to buy 1 V (rite now i had a 10 V and its just phone for calls messsages etc but gud one 6.1") , i want to try manual mode so bad and love audio out its what i need, i belive that 1 V is inperfect but has a still soul in bored AI age , peace 😊
Basically MKBHDs test was on the perspective of an average consumer which is point, shoot and upload without the need of settings and color corrections.
Yep absolutely that and that's where Sony is missing the trick, by also catering for this crowd (which is 90% of people basically) they would open up their phones to the masses and it wouldn't take much ! Just make 2 apps, one of regular apple/Samsung users (sharp bright and saturated photos) and a pro app with full control over the sensors output giving us what we have today.
@@UpsideLensgoogles image processing on stills is still one of the top dog when we talk about results straight out of the camera when in terms of mobile photography but on video they are still catching up on iPhone and Samsung. Sonys device on the other hand aims for more advance users and content creators , in photo or video. Giving users freedom on what and how the photo or video results to they're liking.
@@thethirdtv7507 yep once again I agree Sony is too niche and that's why I do fear tlfor the future of the mobile phone division, which would be a shame. As for the video side of things however I would have to say Samsung's is terrible ! Dropped frames and fluctuating FPS ! I had the S23 Ultra and I gave up trying to get some descent footage out of it 😬 Apple on the other hand is on a different league all together and every iteration makes them leagues ahead of everyone else, the pro-res footage is just short of incredible for a mobile phone !
Yes absolutely and that's where I think Sony is going wrong, it is just too niche and I really think a few tweaks here and there would make it more mainstream and potentially more successful. We'll have to wait for the new VI to see what dire tion they're going with it
@@UpsideLens I think Sony already chose a direction after the Pro-I, and I personally love the direction towards the neiche, because where else can you find a phone this manual, this un-compromised (3.5mm, Micro SD, 4K disp, a continuous zoom camera.. ect..) and have as much character? Nowhere! Imho, Sony should stick to what they have, they shouldn't cater to the audience who will just prefer iphone or Samsung pics.
I am very confident, that ~70-80% of Xperias are bought not to be used in Auto mode. I know that there is 3.5mm jack that's appealing and yet, majority buys to use Manual mode. And that's why MKBHD's test just doesn't make sense. There should be another photo contest where cameras are tested in Manual modes. Xperiae should be there.
I very much agree with you, but I think the point of Marques here is to show that people don't particularly care for quality of a shot as long as again, it is bright, sharp and saturated... Every year shows the same results in terms of what people vote for. We know however that these tests are irrelevant when it comes to pure quality of shots taken.
99% of people use their phone camera for convenience. to take quick shots of their lives. others go for DSLR camera's. what Xperia offers is very niche that not many care for.
@@Anjula321you're right. 99% of people only point and shoot on their phones, 0.9% own a dslr, and 0.1 shoot professionally on their phone. Saying the test doesn't make sense and there should be a manual test mode makes even lesser sense.
the only problem i have with my sony 1v is the fact that their os crashes a lot. i sometimes have to restart the fone just to record videos and take pictures again. it has happened many times even after update after updates
I think a reset should solve that as I don't think I've ever had one OS crash ! It sometimes happens when setting up new phone by migrating all old phone apps and content to new one and creates instabilities. I always setup my phone as new then transfer only photos and documents I need and install all apps again from fresh. Hope that helps
Correct yes a factory reset 👍 I know it's a pain but all should behave properly afterwards , just make sure to backup all important photos and documents first
Love the video mate. I'd love to get my hands on the Xperia once it drops price a little. Prices here in Australia are a rip atm. I did that blind test and my top three overall were the Asus ultimate gaming phone, the Asus Zenphone and then the One plus 11. Happy with that anyways as its not rge mainstream brands that dominate here. Keep up the good work 👌
Thanks really appreciate 👍 prices are steep indeed, tbh here (in the UK at least) prices have dropped on this particular phone but might be worth looking into eBay maybe ? I've seen some very good deals from highly trusted sellers on there, I don't know, might be an option , or maybe wait for the new VI to be announced soon ? In any case I hope you get there in the end 👌
@@UpsideLens might change my location to the UK eBay and suss out. Might snag a bargain in that case. The apple and Samsung phones are so mainstream here with Google coming up now which ain't bad as I've had one. The other brands here and there.
Yes it is but that's where Sony's problem is... It's just too niche and MKBHD video shows just that, people want those processed shots out of the box without getting confused with the UI hence why I really wish they had 2 photo apps, one for 90% of people and the other, photo pro app for all of us who want and know what all the settings do. That's my feeling anyway.
@@UpsideLens definitely niche as you say, but for the photographers out there it's perfect. I'm a photographer so I get a lot out of the device. It's subjective of course, I guess the folks who buy the Sony want more than a point and shoot. I've owned iPhones and Galaxy S ultras as well. Interesting conversation this 👍
In the beginning of the video he said that all the phones they tested have the latest software. It's just a fact that the Xperias are shit phones if you just want to point and shoot. I own a Xperia 5 III and it's terrible when I try to point and shoot, let alone that the Photo Pro app keeps crashing in countries where the temperature is above 30c.
Up until SD gen2 they had terrible thermal issues, temps are now very much in check with the latest V series. In terms of point and shoot to me they do the job when you want to take a picture of a document or just a random photo. For taking actual photos I'd never use basic/automatic mode on any camera let alone phone
Id like to see them do a photoshoot out showing the best photos taken oushing the canerasbto their limitations. But we wont because Apple and Google dont have oro modes and if they show how much more potential some of these othwr devices have they will be shitcanned and not given any new freebies.
I'm not entirely sure what went wrong to be honest but they do try the worst case scenario to see how a camera can handle. Like this portrait mode was shot with backlighting, and the camera probably struggles with Marques dark skin, his bright top as well as backlight... Once again I do thing they hadn't updated the firmware to the latest android 14. But yeah like I said I wasn't there to see how they shot this lol
I agree as long as it is kept well apart from the photo pro app. Give all the AI stuff to people who want that and a separate photo pro app which leaves the photo as raw as possible 👍
I do value his level of production and the charisma marques has, as well as the amount of thinking and work that goes in his videos. I personally think he knows a thing or 2 when it comes to photography, he wouldn't be where he is if he didn't, but it is the nature of the test I guess, not his input.
@@UpsideLensto be completely fair. I'm sure mkbhd and the huge team behind knew only pixel done true tone for dark skin people and yet they decided to proceed with this extremely one dimension dark skin portrait alone shows how manipulative they are. Blind test show nothing if the test sample itself is extremely biasedly one dimensional
The S23 is not a bad phone overall (I had the ultra version) far from it actually, but I can see the appeal of the Xperia in terms of cleanliness of the shots. Still you can get some proper good shots with it 😊
I genuinely don't think it was a case of not using it properly as it was just set to basic auto mode and they allegedly repeated the test a few times. It's just a combination of not updating to the latest Android 14 as well as limitations of the software. I would not say there was any foul play here
@@UpsideLens Unfortunately, most RUclipsrs just use basic mode on Sony cell phones and the result is of course nothing special.But if you're not completely stupid, you'll know that when you buy a Sony cell phone.So I think that's extremely unfair. The guy has such range. If he could handle the device properly then the Sony cell phone would have ended up in first place, I'm sure.
@sosiehtesaus2652 completely get you but here every single phones were used in their auto mode just like they did with the Xperia, that was the point of the blind test. Then millions of voters picked the photo they thought looked best. The test was not based on manual mode, only automatic
@@sosiehtesaus2652 Stop being such a childish Sony simp. The point of the test was to see how different phones would operate if people just wanted to point and shoot something, without fiddling with the settings. It's a given fact Xperia phones are crap when it comes to P&S. Oh, I own a Xperia 5 III btw.
@@pastichiorocker If you want point and shoot then buy a Google Pixe Or something similarl. If you buy an Xperia then you know why you are buying it.Or what do you want to say😅 But if you buy it or test it, you should know how. Otherwise it makes no sense
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I'm often baffled by how bad some of those shots are in MKBHD's tests as i never managed to get something that bad in real use.
I guess they do try and make the worst possible scenarios, dark skin against bright background, low light... It's just the nature of the tests I guess and not a real world scenario. Anyone would change the composition to find a better and more pleasing angle/light
Sony is good in hdr. Except it doesntuse it when using eye auto focus i think. Then all the math power of the cpu and gpu go the eye auto focus and it turns hdr with it off
That's the exact quirks Sony needs to iron out in the long run if they want to survive in this very competitive market !
@@namelesssnitchyNot really, HDR can be enabled with eye AF, but not in portrait mode (at least with the older version). That's why the background was blown out. What made it worse is indeed Marques skin tone which Xperia has not optimised for. That said, even flagships from Apple and Samsung including Chinese brands struggled with his skin tones, with only the Pixel properly handling the situation. It's not unexpected given how Google bragged about their "Real Tone".
@@pixels_per_inchmkbhd team literally knew only pixel done true tone processing for dark skin tone and they still proceed with this one dimensional test. Why? To manipulate and force their thought to viewers
I've heard from RUclipsrs, who have actually thoroughly tested the device, that there is quite a difference between the basic mode and the proper auto mode, with the latter apparently being much better. In addition, I've heard that HDR is disabled by default, which would explain some bad shots. So many reviewers are like "well, there's the basic mode, the equivalent of a point and shoot mode on other devices, and a couple of complicated manual modes. Let's compare the photos with the iPhone ... Erm, the iPhone is better, you're better of with it."
It appears they don't bither to properly test the Xperia devices because they aren't as popular, which is a shame.
Anyway, keep up the great work as one of the people on RUclips doing Xperias justice. Regards from Germany.
Appreciate that thank you ☺️ in all fairness, like I said in the video Sony should make it less awkward for new users and make 2 camera apps, one which will fare just like the Samsung's and apples of the world with dumb full auto / processed HDR and can be used at the click of a finger and a second app aimed at enthusiasts which would basically photo pro app minus the basic mode. Would make things soooo much easier and less complicated for people who just want to take day to day photos like 90% of people.
I purchased the phone recently, used Basic and Auto and Manual modes on the phone app. Actually lost hours trying to actually learn to use the camera. When I'm outside the camera is very good, 9/10. I had a Zenfone 7 pro and I can say I didn't really feel the difference, in fact I actually perceive it as a downgrade, not on just camera, but phone overall. I want to like Sony, but I'm tired of it. It's just not a phone for me, I just can't understand how it works, idk maybe I'm dumb. For my day to day use 21:9 is awful on youtube. Sony is very good on audio thou. I can't feel the 4K display, but I can feel the creator mode display mode. And yeah, I use Android 14.
I will return the phone in a couple of days and return to my old Asus. I wanted to like this phone, on paper is very good, but dammit I just cannot use it as a daily.
PS: No it's not the colors of the photos, I really like the colors and I'm a big fan of real life colors. It's just ... the photos are really weird inside. Outside they are nice. I think there is some overall clarity of the photo that my eye is used to. And let's be honest, I would like some AI on the camera because it's a wide lens not a normal 50mm, at least fake it a little.
I see where you coming from and from what I've seen, a lot of people could do with a separate app for those who just want a good result without having to delve into the complex manual mode, a bit like the apple camera app where "it just works" .
Now when it comes to the manual modes that's where to me the Sony shines. Coming from years of using DSLR cameras the interface and menus is like second nature and where the sensors really shine as you can really push the end result. I made a video (in fact my very first video) going in depth about what all the menus do and the concept of photography talking about the interactions between shutter speeds and iso. Give it a watch, it's fairly long but like I said "in depth". Hope it helps 👍
@@UpsideLens i will try tomorrow
@iamagenius2646 let me know how you get on 👍
I will always love the Sony Xperia 1 V to me it’s the best ever
While I believe I understand what you wanted to say (and as a fellow photographer, I agree with most things you said here), I believe it was a great test since 99.9% of people are using their phone cameras this way - point and shoot. And it doesn't matter if you have a RAW option, better color science etc, the idea here is to see which phones take photos that most people like and are happy with them. Yes, they are mostly over saturated, over exposed and sometimes too sharp, but that's irrelevant here.
Absolutely and I don't disagree with it at all, I never said at any point it was wrong but I just wanted to address the fact that at first glance, a novice or someone who has never used a Sony phone might think (and rightly so just going by the results) that it's a rubbish camera phone when in fact, it has much more going for it than the competition, it just isn't for everyone and I gave the reasons why and how Sony could change all that IF they really wanted to ! 👍
Yea sure. 99 percent of people took only BLACK skin portrait alone. No landscape, no light skin tone people, no others
@@fantasytky28 What kind of difference does it make - image quality wise - if it's landscape or portrait orientation??? Also, if the biggest issue for a smartphone camera is the color of subject's skin... This is not a pixel peeping kind of test. It's a real world test that's perfectly fine.
@@urosjovanovic3142 I'm taking about landscape 🌆 photo, not orientation here
@@fantasytky28 My bad. Do you think they would've produced substantially different photos? In terms of one being much better than the other?
Nowadays a phone that produces natural looking photos with no over saturation and no over sharpening and artificial looking hdr are hard to come by, at least we have Raw DNG now, and that actually fix most of the issues.
Very true ! Hard to find anothet phone that won't introduce much processing baked even in the raw files !
The thing is, phones now are so capable that they have their own color science, processing, etc.
Some know how to do it, others go for too much. That doesn't mean one or the other is bad, that's a matter of taste after all
The tricky thing is first, that big reviewers can't be called reviewers when they test a phone according to what they know/want, instead of checking if the phone does what it's advertised for.
Then, I'm not saying I'm a Sony camera phone master, but I've never got such a bad picture like the one that looked bad, even point and shoot is great in my opinion. And I just switched from a 13 Pro (that doesn't rank well either in these types of scenarios), that a lot considered to be along the best shooter.
I very much agree with you, it's all about taste, it would be like comparing a Fuji and a Sony camera, they both have their fanbase and have very different ways of interpreting colours ! It all comes down to use case and taste. In terms of reviews it's very hard to not fall into the "niche market" if you go too in depth when you talk about these things and that's definitely not something a channel like MKBHD would want, they want to appeal to the wide audience, who as we know, just want that bright saturated image, but yes I absolutely get what you mean 👍
to be completely fair. I'm sure mkbhd and the huge team behind knew only pixel done true tone for dark skin people and yet they decided to proceed with this extremely one dimension dark skin portrait alone shows how manipulative they are.
Blind test show nothing if the test sample itself is extremely biasedly one dimensional
Well, it was an extreme taboo to have beauty filter for men, and now people are accepting it and then some. I find most of smartphones, especially iPhone, to be garbage with their extreme sharpening and plasticy skintones.
Very true ! When taboos become the norm haha and completely relate with iPhone, I used to have the 14pro max and whilst the shots are really good it just isn't the blank canvas you get with the likes of an Xperia raw 👍
@@UpsideLens It's when you try to be superman when it's ok to be just a normal strong man. Phones now are 100% better than phones in 2008. My photos of my Sony C905 still look authentic and so much character without any added sharpening. People mostly consume content through small 6" screens because if those people watched the same photos in large screens, like I'm doing 99% 1.5m away from my 55" 4K TV using my PC, those photos are laughable to say the least. And then iPhone when shooting RAW it looks really good but why there is no option for authentic photography?
Also vice versa with Xperia, why not just give those people what they want and have a pro app with auto mode in it that seeks originality.
Sony did pretty good in Versus channel video released 4 weeks ago and Asus phone won the competition. It was a blind test too. AI will sometimes give you good photos and sometimes it will destroy your image completely. It happens with all phones including iphones. In iphones AI brightens up everything to a similar level making the image look really flat.
Anytime I wanted to fool some dumb ass non-photo geek I just upped the sharpness and saturation on my photos that I edited and sold.
They sell better than normal photos because they pop to the eye ,but it doesn't mean they are better photos.
I've done it so much even my Mom is onto me now she says "don't do that thing where make all the colors look fake."
She' learning.
I am a strange person and never put much store in reviews, I prefer to make my own decisions.
I do agree, but it is a fact most people won't and will make a decision/purchase based on someone telling them / showing them " facts " ( and please do notice I put facts in between brackets lol )
That’s I keep repeat for decade…
I want a camera that shot reality instead to please my eyes.
Then I can use the raw file to create more appealing colors if I want it.
One of the reason I stay on Xperia and Alpha is Colors Sciences.
I don’t want manufacturers auto editing especially when you can’t disable it like on IPhone… ( I have 14Pro and Xperia 1 Mark IV).
I hope Xperia 1 Mark VI will have latest censors for all camera and not only on the 24mm.
Good video keep doing and I would like to see you talk about Cinema pro and see what you can do with it.
Oh and one thing I really miss on Xperia is Timelapse , so when Timelapse Pro will come 😅…
It’s a big missing feature to me…
So am force to use DJI app.
Couldn't agree more 👌👍 in terms of features yes, where do I log in my requests ? 😂
EDIT: actually, might do a wish list video for mark VI !
hope that Sony will launch the new smartphone with an ND Filter , that will be a real pro camera phone
I think it is a rumour at this stage, but we'll soon find out. It would be a nice addition even though it would definitely not a solution as each scenario is different. Sometime you may just need an ND16 and sometimes you might need a ND1000.
Also add a variable aperture.
That would be right at the top of my wish list 👍
I have been using Xperia 5 II for more than a year now and most of the folks who check my social media are curious what camera I use for my films and photos. They produce amazing natural photos which are a treat to color grade. Night videos are amazing, night photos ...not so much. But I believe the 5 V has resolved the night mode.
They do indeed make photos look natural and phenomenal especially when using the full manual mode. For night photos I highly recommend using manual mode as opposed to the basic night mode, you will achieve much better results and will be able to control noise much better too. My last video was all about low light photography go check it out 👌
does your phone still receive updates and security updates ?
@@UpsideLens Indeed manual mode looks much better in nighttime! That's a shame for Sony's programmers, why don't they make a proper night mode in Basic?
Another perspective to look at this is that, the target audience for Xperia are never the same as how other phones manufacturer does, especially how the company push the product through ads and reviewer hands on. (at least not in my country in terms of it's exposure). In fact, they doesn't purposely shift the direction to cater the majority market, just like a lone wolf with their own thought.
Those who had experience with Sony alpha camera, definitely could jump in right away with the so-called "recognizable" camera UI. Shot in auto mode is an option, the manual mode is where you see this beast start shining, and also where the price goes. Not a professional myself but from a hobbyist point of view, photo taking nowadays with AI can be convenience, also at the same times interfering. It is great if the backlight lays directly on the camera lens, yet some phone camera still able to tone down the light with the help of AI. Sony probably doesn't, and that's where it reminds you to move the position. (learn to photograph)
Agree with not all eye candy color make the best photo, but I guess it could be subjective things. What's so cool about this is raw photo capture, and the ability to edit it afterward is insane, giving user more freedom to play with, hence making it a mirrorless alternative in pocket size.
Nice video dude i appreciate your videos you're making about this phone, like you said its definitely not a point and shoot and not a one shoe fits all phone. And that's what i like about it you have more freedom with the camera than most phones on the market also the video pro app is great.
Yeap definitely agree, it's not a camera phone for everyone. But that's the point... It could be !! If Sony listened to requests, if they contacted me I'd be more than happy to have a chat with them about it haha
He never has given Sony any credit
To be completely fair I do remember a video when the 1 V came out where he praised sony quite highly for doing what they do but just like I said he said the phone in its current state might be too niche, and it's perhaps true, they need to embrace change whilst keeping their DNA in it that makes the Xperia an Xperia phone 👍
Seeing S23 ultra comes way behind the S23 just tells you so much about these test, my wife has S23 ultra and it is unfair for a phone with that caliper to come in 15 place
To be honest going purely for that 2 second glance and voting I can see the S23 winning over the Ultra since the 200mp sensor will have a harder time gathering as much light and producing a brighter photo overall than a small sensor... Hence the result here which again is not a question of how detailed the shot is but more of how bright overall it was and no doubt the S23 would beat the ultra in that regard
@@UpsideLens You are the expert.
@@UpsideLenswhat kind of bro science is this, the smaller sensor can gather more light?
@@alyousuf that's no true, there is NO proof that larger sensor will produce more noise in low-light situations... actually in the video they were doing standing takes, so I believe there is some bias towards some brands.
It reminds me an anekdote:
- let's ask an average person
- well, let's don't ask an average person. Do you know how stupid an average person is?
It was until I got my Sony Xperia 1 iv that I realised most of the camera comparisons are crap. I can't see myself going in for any phone as my primary shooter aside an upgrade to my Sony phone. A real telephoto lens and not the gimmicks other phone brands have. Sony has a way of taking and presenting photos that is different from all other phones
I agree that QOL things make it hard to go back to another brand ! For me it'd have to be the 3.5mm jack, the half press shutter button and the photo pro app !
My Xperia 1 V is still out of action but i think things people don't always consider is how they want their phones to look.
Most people I've seen using mobile photography want pictures that look just like what they see
I've got some awesome portraits in basic but I like to use the different lenses and settings to get the image I want, then use an editor to make it what I really want.
Also agree I doubt the firmware was updated.
I think Sony did a great job with the 1V unfortunately the customer service is starting to get to me.
Sorry to hear you're having issues with yours. Tbh that's not a side I've had to experience. I know apple is top notch in terms of CS, Samsung was abysmal when I needed it the most, but Sony touch wood so far haven't had to deal with them as such. And yes absolutely agree with the fact everyone will use cameras differently hence why I recommended splitting the photo app into 2 distinct ones, which would help the ones who don't care much about photography to get those juicy / processed shots and enthusiast can still enjoy a natural shot via photo pro app.
I own this phone and it takes amazing photos in every situation , anyone telling you otherwise is a layer or doesn't know how to take photos ...
Tbh can't really go wrong with any modern phones, the sky is the limit 😉👍
MKBHD doesn't know shit about photography.
Tbh I'd like to think he does, MKBHD wasn't always the big multi million subs channel, he has a clear focus on tech and a very clear passion for standing out from the crowds by always pushing the envelope and I don't believe for a second he would have got where he is now without such an eye for detail and being so perfectionist without understanding colour science and composition. I regard Marques HIGHLY for it's production value and like I said to someone else he is very charismatic. Now I don't specifically agree with everything he says but you have to remember he caters for the masses not just for the maybe "too niche" photographers market and as such videos like this one are always a hit with the general public 👍
You are right man. Whatever it is I always love my Xperia...
Thanks 👍
Thank you for the video, I consider buying Xperia 1 V, 1 VI (or what will be the name) and agree with the idea of two apps, with more up-to-date auto mode for the public. In fact, I was thinking about it after seeing the blind test too and was wondering why the auto mode in Sony phones usually is not competitive.
I also spotted the discussion on reddit, that the phone from the blind test might be Xperia 1 IV and not V, someone claimed that because the author showed all the phones at one shot during the video and the camera setup on the back probably looked like the older model... Anyway, I am happy that I find your channel and you have one new subsciber!
Thanks for the sub 😀 and yes there was a mistake in his video only on one of the products shots, however if you pause the moment they take the portrait shot you can clearly see it is the 1V and not the 1IV. Whether you go for the 1V (which is pretty well discounted by now) or wait for the future 1VI I'm sure you won't be disappointed 👍
waiting for Xperia vi 🫣
@@UpsideLens we have the xperia 5iii and I can tell you it has a nice camera. Actually I don't see any upgrade between Mark 3 and 4 even the optical zoom is a downgrade. What do you think?
How do you like the Xperia 5 V in comparison? I think the I V just got the features from the 5 V with android 14
I've not had the 5V in hand but it is very similar to the 1V minus a few features but at a lower price. Definitely a good little phone without the telephoto lens. As to the android update, it did not bring a major feature the 5V got that did upset a few people, and not gonna lie, I was one of them ! Still waiting on that 48mm focal length 🤔🤷
Who is MKBHD i don't even give a single fuck of him.
I love photographing but I have no clue about editing and all that, so I depend on a decent auto mode. Is the Sony Xperia the right phone for me?
Never too late to learn 😉 I have a few videos about how to shoot in few manual as well as how to edit mobile phone photos. In my view the Xperia line up as an "ok" basic mode but it really shines when shooting in manual and pro mode. Nothing wrong shooting in full auto and jog but you wouldn't be able to get the results you will see on my channel straight out of the camera, or of any camera since they are heavily colour graded / masked if that makes sense. All really depends what style of photography you go for 👍
I love Sony Xperia.. its clear that this phone is for advance users not for any wannabe to call them self a pro?
And to be perfectly honest thats exactly where Sony is missing the trick here ! They should cater for both markets, and such videos wouldn't place the Xperia right down the bottom. Maybe like I said in the video, having 2 separate photo apps would do just that. Give the average person who doesn't care much for photography as a hobby a pleasing bright and over the top saturated photo but also give the opportunity to us enthusiasts an app to take things to the next level ! They have the bases right, it's just a matter of getting those blinkers off and realise there is a huge potential !
You read MKBHD video comments . The top comment stated they should add a dslr auto mode in it to compare and the whole discussion went bonkers 😂😂😂😂😂
No I didn't actually... I bet it did 😂 that's the internet for you haha
i personaly think , at least that is with my 5ii, that if eye autofocus turns on it shuts off hdr. It seems it uses all its power math of gpu and cpu for eye autofocus which in itself in some situations isnt bad. i hope sony will use the hdr instead more often, this would be maybe possible if sony uses face auto detection instead. but i dont know. hope they makle that option of using the hdr more
Sony definitely needs to work on the software side of things that's for sure, at least for all the auto/basic modes. For full manual it is excellent though and HDR is not a feature I'd normally use myself as I like the least amount of processing in my shots.
Better basic auto mode would be nice (even if another app), but I was never expecting the Xperia to smash this challenge. It is not focused on point and shoot.
I was more surprised how the Xiaomi 13 Ultra went so bad (2nd last judt above the Xperia) despite being touted as a point and shoot camera focused phone.
See that's what I would like Sony to improve in their next iteration, a more simple and novice friendly app that just works, without having to worry about "Sony colours" give the people that processed look they're after and desperate for and the photo pro app for the enthusiast keeping it as natural as it currently is. That's my wish anyway.
@@UpsideLens I absolutely hate that idea. This is the same kind of thinking that cost us the headphone jack. Color the audio, use Bluetooth, I need my phone thin so it's ok to seal that battery in, I want edge to edge screens so you can put that hole in my viewing area, I don't use all that storage so I don't mind losing the memory card slot. Thank God for Sony.
I explained at length in my other video about my wishlist for the Xperia 1 VI go watch it it'll make sense. They need to have 2 photo apps, not just one trying to do a bit of everything and confusing everyone in the process and ending up being clunky. 1 photo app for noobs and the everyday shots that gives that over the top processing, and a 2nd PRO photo app that takes the best features of the current app and adds even more much needed features (zebras, bulb mode, bracketing...) Whilst giving the least amount of processing to the raw files.
I love sony all the time, ps1, sony mini disc, sony tapes, etc etc etc..and mind to buy 1 V (rite now i had a 10 V and its just phone for calls messsages etc but gud one 6.1") , i want to try manual mode so bad and love audio out its what i need, i belive that 1 V is inperfect but has a still soul in bored AI age , peace 😊
Couldn't agree more, not perfect but does a lot right 👍
Basically MKBHDs test was on the perspective of an average consumer which is point, shoot and upload without the need of settings and color corrections.
Yep absolutely that and that's where Sony is missing the trick, by also catering for this crowd (which is 90% of people basically) they would open up their phones to the masses and it wouldn't take much ! Just make 2 apps, one of regular apple/Samsung users (sharp bright and saturated photos) and a pro app with full control over the sensors output giving us what we have today.
@@UpsideLensgoogles image processing on stills is still one of the top dog when we talk about results straight out of the camera when in terms of mobile photography but on video they are still catching up on iPhone and Samsung. Sonys device on the other hand aims for more advance users and content creators , in photo or video. Giving users freedom on what and how the photo or video results to they're liking.
@@thethirdtv7507 yep once again I agree Sony is too niche and that's why I do fear tlfor the future of the mobile phone division, which would be a shame. As for the video side of things however I would have to say Samsung's is terrible ! Dropped frames and fluctuating FPS ! I had the S23 Ultra and I gave up trying to get some descent footage out of it 😬 Apple on the other hand is on a different league all together and every iteration makes them leagues ahead of everyone else, the pro-res footage is just short of incredible for a mobile phone !
I personally feel like the Xperia is a phone, meant for people who know what they're doing. I have the 1 V, and I know how to use it fully.
Yes absolutely and that's where I think Sony is going wrong, it is just too niche and I really think a few tweaks here and there would make it more mainstream and potentially more successful. We'll have to wait for the new VI to see what dire tion they're going with it
@@UpsideLens I think Sony already chose a direction after the Pro-I, and I personally love the direction towards the neiche, because where else can you find a phone this manual, this un-compromised (3.5mm, Micro SD, 4K disp, a continuous zoom camera.. ect..) and have as much character? Nowhere! Imho, Sony should stick to what they have, they shouldn't cater to the audience who will just prefer iphone or Samsung pics.
Excellent video. Thanks !
Glad you enjoyed it 👍 thanks
I am very confident, that ~70-80% of Xperias are bought not to be used in Auto mode. I know that there is 3.5mm jack that's appealing and yet, majority buys to use Manual mode. And that's why MKBHD's test just doesn't make sense. There should be another photo contest where cameras are tested in Manual modes. Xperiae should be there.
I very much agree with you, but I think the point of Marques here is to show that people don't particularly care for quality of a shot as long as again, it is bright, sharp and saturated... Every year shows the same results in terms of what people vote for. We know however that these tests are irrelevant when it comes to pure quality of shots taken.
99% of people use their phone camera for convenience. to take quick shots of their lives. others go for DSLR camera's. what Xperia offers is very niche that not many care for.
@@Anjula321you're right. 99% of people only point and shoot on their phones, 0.9% own a dslr, and 0.1 shoot professionally on their phone. Saying the test doesn't make sense and there should be a manual test mode makes even lesser sense.
@@bluesoapxrthe test make sense but the one dimension dark skin portrait alone test make almost no sense
very well said! I'm subscribing now.
Thank you 👍
the only problem i have with my sony 1v is the fact that their os crashes a lot. i sometimes have to restart the fone just to record videos and take pictures again. it has happened many times even after update after updates
I think a reset should solve that as I don't think I've ever had one OS crash ! It sometimes happens when setting up new phone by migrating all old phone apps and content to new one and creates instabilities. I always setup my phone as new then transfer only photos and documents I need and install all apps again from fresh. Hope that helps
@@UpsideLens reset. like a factory reset? ill try it. and report if ever it happens again
Correct yes a factory reset 👍 I know it's a pain but all should behave properly afterwards , just make sure to backup all important photos and documents first
Love the video mate. I'd love to get my hands on the Xperia once it drops price a little. Prices here in Australia are a rip atm. I did that blind test and my top three overall were the Asus ultimate gaming phone, the Asus Zenphone and then the One plus 11. Happy with that anyways as its not rge mainstream brands that dominate here. Keep up the good work 👌
Thanks really appreciate 👍 prices are steep indeed, tbh here (in the UK at least) prices have dropped on this particular phone but might be worth looking into eBay maybe ? I've seen some very good deals from highly trusted sellers on there, I don't know, might be an option , or maybe wait for the new VI to be announced soon ? In any case I hope you get there in the end 👌
@@UpsideLens might change my location to the UK eBay and suss out. Might snag a bargain in that case. The apple and Samsung phones are so mainstream here with Google coming up now which ain't bad as I've had one. The other brands here and there.
The Sony is all about manual mode. Incredible for astro photography.
Yes it is but that's where Sony's problem is... It's just too niche and MKBHD video shows just that, people want those processed shots out of the box without getting confused with the UI hence why I really wish they had 2 photo apps, one for 90% of people and the other, photo pro app for all of us who want and know what all the settings do. That's my feeling anyway.
@@UpsideLens definitely niche as you say, but for the photographers out there it's perfect. I'm a photographer so I get a lot out of the device. It's subjective of course, I guess the folks who buy the Sony want more than a point and shoot. I've owned iPhones and Galaxy S ultras as well. Interesting conversation this 👍
they doesn't know how to take a good photo with Xperia device
I do think the aim of the video was to put all the phones on a same level by using their automatic basic mode without touching any other setting.
In the beginning of the video he said that all the phones they tested have the latest software. It's just a fact that the Xperias are shit phones if you just want to point and shoot. I own a Xperia 5 III and it's terrible when I try to point and shoot, let alone that the Photo Pro app keeps crashing in countries where the temperature is above 30c.
Up until SD gen2 they had terrible thermal issues, temps are now very much in check with the latest V series. In terms of point and shoot to me they do the job when you want to take a picture of a document or just a random photo. For taking actual photos I'd never use basic/automatic mode on any camera let alone phone
Id like to see them do a photoshoot out showing the best photos taken oushing the canerasbto their limitations. But we wont because Apple and Google dont have oro modes and if they show how much more potential some of these othwr devices have they will be shitcanned and not given any new freebies.
The worst photo from my Xperia 1 V basic mode still looks better than his.
I'm not entirely sure what went wrong to be honest but they do try the worst case scenario to see how a camera can handle. Like this portrait mode was shot with backlighting, and the camera probably struggles with Marques dark skin, his bright top as well as backlight... Once again I do thing they hadn't updated the firmware to the latest android 14. But yeah like I said I wasn't there to see how they shot this lol
I never liked the guy from day 1, so he's always one of the few channels I've blocked for years. I think he's an Apple fanboy too.
This should wake up sony, with their overpriced phones being beaten by midrange phones. Ai camera is must now.
I agree as long as it is kept well apart from the photo pro app. Give all the AI stuff to people who want that and a separate photo pro app which leaves the photo as raw as possible 👍
Sony master of electronics
I love my Sony Xperia 1 V mobile camera is a natur photos No AI ❤👍
Glad you enjoy it 👍
I really cannot take that MK dude seriously.
I do value his level of production and the charisma marques has, as well as the amount of thinking and work that goes in his videos. I personally think he knows a thing or 2 when it comes to photography, he wouldn't be where he is if he didn't, but it is the nature of the test I guess, not his input.
@@UpsideLensto be completely fair. I'm sure mkbhd and the huge team behind knew only pixel done true tone for dark skin people and yet they decided to proceed with this extremely one dimension dark skin portrait alone shows how manipulative they are.
Blind test show nothing if the test sample itself is extremely biasedly one dimensional
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Thank you 😊👍
I regret moving from sony 5ii to samsumg s23 regarding the camera .
The S23 is not a bad phone overall (I had the ultra version) far from it actually, but I can see the appeal of the Xperia in terms of cleanliness of the shots. Still you can get some proper good shots with it 😊
Enjoying this from my Mark V 😂
Hope you enjoy it ☺️
Thank you
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He simply cannot operate the device 🫣
I genuinely don't think it was a case of not using it properly as it was just set to basic auto mode and they allegedly repeated the test a few times. It's just a combination of not updating to the latest Android 14 as well as limitations of the software. I would not say there was any foul play here
@@UpsideLens Unfortunately, most RUclipsrs just use basic mode on Sony cell phones and the result is of course nothing special.But if you're not completely stupid, you'll know that when you buy a Sony cell phone.So I think that's extremely unfair. The guy has such range. If he could handle the device properly then the Sony cell phone would have ended up in first place, I'm sure.
@sosiehtesaus2652 completely get you but here every single phones were used in their auto mode just like they did with the Xperia, that was the point of the blind test. Then millions of voters picked the photo they thought looked best. The test was not based on manual mode, only automatic
@@sosiehtesaus2652 Stop being such a childish Sony simp. The point of the test was to see how different phones would operate if people just wanted to point and shoot something, without fiddling with the settings. It's a given fact Xperia phones are crap when it comes to P&S. Oh, I own a Xperia 5 III btw.
@@pastichiorocker If you want point and shoot then buy a Google Pixe Or something similarl. If you buy an Xperia then you know why you are buying it.Or what do you want to say😅 But if you buy it or test it, you should know how. Otherwise it makes no sense
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