Hi, dont forget that The Hotel was conceived like a Living Entity. The entity comunicates with Halloran, Jack, Wendy and little Dany. This entity is conceived in someway like an evil presence. Yes I confirmed to you guys Mother and Son are both hero. And there is this crazy idea that Jack dies inside the freeze, because its horror, gothic horror. And there are more than one laberinth.
@@juanmanuelbaccino I love that you picked up on the Gothic influence with the 'enormous and microscopic' rule-it’s such a fascinating element in The Shining! Kubrick’s use of vast spaces and tiny, unsettling details really makes the hotel feel like a character itself. Thank you for watching and commenting, your support means a lot!
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The movie doesn't take place in 1975. Jack is seen reading the January 1978 issue of PLAYGIRL magazine in the lobby of the Overlook on Closing Day, so that scene probably takes place later that year in 1978, on October 30th, which was a Monday. It's possible that that issue of PLAYGIRL had been left there in the lobby by someone who'd gotten it more than a year beforehand, which would make this scene happen on 30 October 1979 -- or even two years before, making it on 30 October 1980 -- but odds are the magazine was from earlier that same year, as I can't see the jet-setters who frequent the Overlook Hotel being the types who would be reading PLAYGIRL magazines dating back to more than a year earlier -- but that's just my 'feel' for the vibe of the clientele at the Overlook. I honestly don't know why you would think that THE SHiNING takes place in 1975, especially given that January 1978 issue of the magazine Jack was reading. We also don't know EXACTLY how long that "MONTH" might have been, mentioned in the Title Card: "One Month Later" . . . it could be either 30 or 31 days. As for what day of the week it was when Wendy went to see Jack, only to discover his typescript & hit him with the baseball bat (etc.), you'll remember that she had left Danny up in their Caretaker's quarters/apartment, where he was watching a Road Runner cartoon -- and back then this would've happened only on a SATURDAY morning, when THE BUGS BUNNY ROAD RUNNER SHOW was regularly broadcast on Saturday mornings. This was years before CARTOON NETWORK on Cable-TV or Satellite TV, remember. It's to be remembered that the first scene where we see Danny and Wendy, in the beginning -- during Jack's INTERVIEW, Danny was watching a ROAD RUNNER cartoon as he ate his sandwich and Wendy was reading CATCHER IN THE RYE. So, that day too was a SATURDAY. Danny was lured into Room 237 on 'WEDNESDAY' and, presumably, Jack went into Room 237 later that day to encounter the Woman in the tub (etc.), all while Danny was using his 'Shining' gift to call out to Hallorann. While I would like to believe that Hallorann flew out the very next day from Florida to Denver, the fact is that Danny/Tony was watching SATURDAY MORNING cartoons when Wendy went to see Jack, clobbered him, and locked him in the Pantry. Hallorann arrived there that evening -- he being murdered by Jack when a clock on the wall read "5:25" an hour and 25 minutes after Grady talks with Jack trapped in the Pantry. Hallorann told Larry Durkins that he had phoned Ullman the night before, Ullman supposedly telling him to go up to the Overlook to see whether or not the unreliable Torrances had to be replaced. Hallorann MIGHT have been lying to Larry Durkins, not wanting to let him know that it was a Psychic 'connection' that had led him to make the trip up from Florida, and thus PRETENDING that he'd also been in contact with Mr. Ullman. On the other hand, he also just might be telling him the truth -- that he DID contact Ullman and, after a phone conversation, been given the task of going up to the hotel himself to see if they had to replace the Torrance family. Assuming this did, indeed, happen, then the bulk of Thursday -- the day after 'WEDNESDAY' -- might have involved Hallorann contacting Ullman . . . Ullman calling the Forest Ranger guys, to see if they could contact the Overlook via the radio . . . the Forest Ranger guys attempting to contact the Overlook unsuccessfully, as Jack had damaged the radio . . . Ullman discovering that the radio contact seems to have been lost, perhaps permanently. This runaround back-and-forth involving Hallorann, Ullman, and the Forest Ranger station guys might've lasted until the next day -- Friday -- with Ullman finally telling Hallorann to make the trip up to the hotel the first thing 'tomorrow' -- i.e. on SATURDAY morning, when Danny's watching cartoons. etc. If this is the case, and assuming that this is in the year 1978 -- 10 to 11 months after that PLAYGIRL issue hit the stands in JAUARY 1978 -- then the four Title Cards reading 'THURSDAY' ... 'SATURDAY' ... 'MONDAY' ... and 'WEDNESDAY' would've been for the dates December 7, 1978 ... December 9, 1978 ... December 11, 1978 ... and December 13, 1978, with the final day -- when all hell breaks loose -- being the next SATURDAY, December 16, 1978. Unfortunately, that date would represent Day 48, counting October 30th as Day 1. If we were to suppose that the film takes place the next year, in 1979, then October 30, 1979 was a TUESDAY, and "One Month Later" would have been FRIDAY, November 30, 1979. The snowstorm had to have been on a WEDNESDAY, since the Title card 'THURSDAY' is seen just before we see Wendy and Danny playing in the snow, while Jack glares malevolently at them from inside -- and that 'THURSDAY' would probably represent the date December 6, 1979. This would be followed by 'SATURDAY' = December 8, 1979 . . . then 'MONDAY' = December 10, 1979 . . . then 'WEDNESDAY' = December 12, 1979 . . . with the next SATURDAY being the final day, when Danny/Tony is watching cartoons as Wendy deals with Jack, etc., on the date December 15, 1979, which would be Day 47, counting October 30, 1979 as Day 1. If we were to suppose that the film takes place in 1980 (as many people assume), then October 30, 1980 ('CLOSING DAY') was a THURSDAY, and "A Month Later..." (i.e. November 30, 1980) was a SUNDAY. The next title cards would then be 'THURSDAY' = December 4, 1980 ... 'SATURDAY' = December 6, 1980 ... 'MONDAY' = December 8, 1980 ... and 'WEDNESDAY' = December 10, 1980 . . . with the mayhem happening next SATURDAY = December 13, 1980, beginning with Danny watching his SATURDAY MORNING cartoons, etc. That date, SATURDAY, December 13, 1980, would be Day 45, counting October 30, 1980 as Day 1. I can see why one would want the timeline of the film to stretch from CLOSING DAY to the Big Day for a total of 42 days, what with the prevalence of the number '42' elsewhere in the film, but it just doesn't work. The year 1975 is three years too early at LEAST, given the publishing date of that January 1978 PLAYGIRL magazine, and it's just a plain fact that back in the late '70s the cartoons that Danny was wont to watch were SATURDAY MORNING television programming, back when there were only CBS, BC, NBC, and PBS to choose from. It would be helpful if we could know whether or not the movie "THE SUMMER OF '42" -- released in theaters on 19 April 1971 -- was shown on TV in the afternoon-ish time in early December of 1978 or 1979 or 1980 (etc.) . . . but maybe it's too much to expect that Kubrick would have checked the broadcast times for the network showing of that 1971 film in the Colorado area. For that matter, Kubrick -- by then living in England -- might not have been as aware of the fact that the cartoons Danny watched were shown -- in America -- on Saturday mornings, and wouldn't have been seen on TV on a Wednesday or a Thursday.
Filming for The Shining began in May 1978 and wrapped in July 1979, and the Playgirl magazine Jack is seen with in the lobby is dated January 1978. There’s a chance this was handed to Nicholson as a joke during filming-no solid proof, but it feels plausible. I personally believe 1975 is the intended setting for the story. This aligns with Stephen King's book, which takes place in 1975, and works with the 42-day timeline, as well as the various timestamps Kubrick included. When The Shining was released on video in 1981, viewers didn’t have the technology to zoom in on small details like the magazine date. It likely took decades for audiences to catch this, but knowing Kubrick, he probably anticipated that future viewers would eventually pick up on details like these. His mix of precision, subtle humor, and forward-thinking keeps us analyzing even the smallest choices decades later. Thanks for watching and commenting! - Colorado Kelly I just noticed how long your response was I will respond to your other points soon! Thank you
I saw somebody claim the Miami show is "real life". I'm surprised nobody tried to find the airing date for that. Not that Kubrick couldn't have mixed things up, not caring to keep it "real life".
Great point regarding The Bugs Bunny Road Runner Show airing on Saturday mornings! That would mean Jack’s interview at the Overlook took place on a Saturday too, since Wendy and Danny are watching/listening to Road Runner in the Boulder apartment. You’ve definitely given me a lot to think about. Thanks for your comments and insight-I’ll be making another video about this soon!
It would not surprise me at all if the stay at the Overlook was exactly 42 days. Nothing would surprise me WRT this film. I saw it in the theater when it first came out in 1980 (yes, I'm that old), and it had haunted me ever since. In the years since it has only grown in its influence,
I thought the woman in King's novel committed suicide in the bathtub? I just believe that Stanley took it in a different direction, only my opinion. Thank so much! Kelly
I believe there’s a difference between the two Grady's. Charles Grady, the character Mr. Ullman mentions, had daughters who were 8 and 10 years old. But Delbert Grady, who Jack meets in the bathroom, could be the one associated with the twins. This duality might be Kubrick’s way of playing with timelines and identities, blurring reality in the Overlook Hotel. Thanks so much for commenting! Colorado Kelly
@@laurenanderson61 The Grady twins in The Shining are often interpreted as symbols of duality, mirroring, and the psychological conflicts within Jack and the Overlook Hotel itself. Their appearance as identical twins suggests several layers of symbolic meaning: 1. Duality and Inner Conflict: 2. Mirror Imagery and the Uncanny: 3. Symbolism of Innocence Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Have a nice day! Kelly
@ColoradoKelly actually Kubrick WAS looking to cast an 8 and 12yr old girls but was very impressed Lisa and Louise Burns' audition so he hired them but never changed anything in the films and the girls were still referred to as 10 and 8.
Kubrick certainly had a different sense of humor. Given his track record of acquiring early access to works that intrigued him, it’s conceivable he might have come across The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy pre-publication. Imagining that he saw the humor in making 42 a recurring motif in The Shining aligns well with his playful and meticulous style. It would fit perfectly with his reputation for leaving audiences with hidden connections to ponder. Thank you for watching and commenting! Have a nice day Kelly.
@@ColoradoKellythe old lady letting Jack out of the storage room makes no sense. Delbert Grady wanted Jack to kill his family. Plus he announced himself at the door.
@@ppiorkowski1502 Thank you for your comment. I believe that the 24 year old woman could have let Jack out of the pantry. If ghosts can open doors why would they need Jack to kill Danny? Just a theory?? Thank you so much for commenting! Kelly
Yes, it is the Stanley in Estes Park CO. That is the hotel that Stephen King stayed at and was inspired to write The Shining. It is a beautiful hotel very different then The Overlook in the movie. Have a great day! Kelly
I’ve been working on tongue-twisters to help with my mispronunciations, and using phonetic spelling like ‘Cue Brick’ is a fantastic idea to help! Appreciate the watch and the feedback. Stay tuned for more *Cue Brick* mysteries! Colorado Kelly
I wanted to highlight how the Torrance family’s 42-day stay at the Overlook connects to the significance of the number 42 in The Shining. I focused on the specific timeframe because I believe Kubrick used it to create an underlying sense of mystery. This is just a theory of mine, but I find it fascinating! Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Colorado Kelly
Thanks for the honest feedback on the background audio! I’m always experimenting, so I’ll keep this in mind for future videos. Appreciate you watching despite the audio - Colorado Kelly
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Hi, dont forget that The Hotel was conceived like a Living Entity. The entity comunicates with Halloran, Jack, Wendy and little Dany. This entity is conceived in someway like an evil presence. Yes I confirmed to you guys Mother and Son are both hero. And there is this crazy idea that Jack dies inside the freeze, because its horror, gothic horror. And there are more than one laberinth.
Yes, great point the Hotel is like a Living Entity. This movie has so many layers it's amazing! Thank you for watching and commenting! Colorado Kelly
@@ColoradoKelly The Gothic has this rule of the enormous and the microscopic...amazing! Best Picture Ever!
@@juanmanuelbaccino I love that you picked up on the Gothic influence with the 'enormous and microscopic' rule-it’s such a fascinating element in The Shining! Kubrick’s use of vast spaces and tiny, unsettling details really makes the hotel feel like a character itself. Thank you for watching and commenting, your support means a lot!
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"Aww, thank you! 😊 I'm so glad the vibes came through and brightened your day. That made my day too! Thanks for watching and sharing the love ❤ - Colorado Kelly"
The movie doesn't take place in 1975. Jack is seen reading the January 1978 issue of PLAYGIRL magazine in the lobby of the Overlook on Closing Day, so that scene probably takes place later that year in 1978, on October 30th, which was a Monday. It's possible that that issue of PLAYGIRL had been left there in the lobby by someone who'd gotten it more than a year beforehand, which would make this scene happen on 30 October 1979 -- or even two years before, making it on 30 October 1980 -- but odds are the magazine was from earlier that same year, as I can't see the jet-setters who frequent the Overlook Hotel being the types who would be reading PLAYGIRL magazines dating back to more than a year earlier -- but that's just my 'feel' for the vibe of the clientele at the Overlook. I honestly don't know why you would think that THE SHiNING takes place in 1975, especially given that January 1978 issue of the magazine Jack was reading.
We also don't know EXACTLY how long that "MONTH" might have been, mentioned in the Title Card: "One Month Later" . . . it could be either 30 or 31 days.
As for what day of the week it was when Wendy went to see Jack, only to discover his typescript & hit him with the baseball bat (etc.), you'll remember that she had left Danny up in their Caretaker's quarters/apartment, where he was watching a Road Runner cartoon -- and back then this would've happened only on a SATURDAY morning, when THE BUGS BUNNY ROAD RUNNER SHOW was regularly broadcast on Saturday mornings. This was years before CARTOON NETWORK on Cable-TV or Satellite TV, remember. It's to be remembered that the first scene where we see Danny and Wendy, in the beginning -- during Jack's INTERVIEW, Danny was watching a ROAD RUNNER cartoon as he ate his sandwich and Wendy was reading CATCHER IN THE RYE. So, that day too was a SATURDAY.
Danny was lured into Room 237 on 'WEDNESDAY' and, presumably, Jack went into Room 237 later that day to encounter the Woman in the tub (etc.), all while Danny was using his 'Shining' gift to call out to Hallorann. While I would like to believe that Hallorann flew out the very next day from Florida to Denver, the fact is that Danny/Tony was watching SATURDAY MORNING cartoons when Wendy went to see Jack, clobbered him, and locked him in the Pantry. Hallorann arrived there that evening -- he being murdered by Jack when a clock on the wall read "5:25" an hour and 25 minutes after Grady talks with Jack trapped in the Pantry.
Hallorann told Larry Durkins that he had phoned Ullman the night before, Ullman supposedly telling him to go up to the Overlook to see whether or not the unreliable Torrances had to be replaced. Hallorann MIGHT have been lying to Larry Durkins, not wanting to let him know that it was a Psychic 'connection' that had led him to make the trip up from Florida, and thus PRETENDING that he'd also been in contact with Mr. Ullman. On the other hand, he also just might be telling him the truth -- that he DID contact Ullman and, after a phone conversation, been given the task of going up to the hotel himself to see if they had to replace the Torrance family.
Assuming this did, indeed, happen, then the bulk of Thursday -- the day after 'WEDNESDAY' -- might have involved Hallorann contacting Ullman . . . Ullman calling the Forest Ranger guys, to see if they could contact the Overlook via the radio . . . the Forest Ranger guys attempting to contact the Overlook unsuccessfully, as Jack had damaged the radio . . . Ullman discovering that the radio contact seems to have been lost, perhaps permanently. This runaround back-and-forth involving Hallorann, Ullman, and the Forest Ranger station guys might've lasted until the next day -- Friday -- with Ullman finally telling Hallorann to make the trip up to the hotel the first thing 'tomorrow' -- i.e. on SATURDAY morning, when Danny's watching cartoons. etc.
If this is the case, and assuming that this is in the year 1978 -- 10 to 11 months after that PLAYGIRL issue hit the stands in JAUARY 1978 -- then the four Title Cards reading 'THURSDAY' ... 'SATURDAY' ... 'MONDAY' ... and 'WEDNESDAY' would've been for the dates December 7, 1978 ... December 9, 1978 ... December 11, 1978 ... and December 13, 1978, with the final day -- when all hell breaks loose -- being the next SATURDAY, December 16, 1978.
Unfortunately, that date would represent Day 48, counting October 30th as Day 1.
If we were to suppose that the film takes place the next year, in 1979, then October 30, 1979 was a TUESDAY, and "One Month Later" would have been FRIDAY, November 30, 1979. The snowstorm had to have been on a WEDNESDAY, since the Title card 'THURSDAY' is seen just before we see Wendy and Danny playing in the snow, while Jack glares malevolently at them from inside -- and that 'THURSDAY' would probably represent the date December 6, 1979. This would be followed by 'SATURDAY' = December 8, 1979 . . . then 'MONDAY' = December 10, 1979 . . . then 'WEDNESDAY' = December 12, 1979 . . . with the next SATURDAY being the final day, when Danny/Tony is watching cartoons as Wendy deals with Jack, etc., on the date December 15, 1979, which would be Day 47, counting October 30, 1979 as Day 1.
If we were to suppose that the film takes place in 1980 (as many people assume), then October 30, 1980 ('CLOSING DAY') was a THURSDAY, and "A Month Later..." (i.e. November 30, 1980) was a SUNDAY. The next title cards would then be 'THURSDAY' = December 4, 1980 ... 'SATURDAY' = December 6, 1980 ... 'MONDAY' = December 8, 1980 ... and 'WEDNESDAY' = December 10, 1980 . . . with the mayhem happening next SATURDAY = December 13, 1980, beginning with Danny watching his SATURDAY MORNING cartoons, etc. That date, SATURDAY, December 13, 1980, would be Day 45, counting October 30, 1980 as Day 1.
I can see why one would want the timeline of the film to stretch from CLOSING DAY to the Big Day for a total of 42 days, what with the prevalence of the number '42' elsewhere in the film, but it just doesn't work. The year 1975 is three years too early at LEAST, given the publishing date of that January 1978 PLAYGIRL magazine, and it's just a plain fact that back in the late '70s the cartoons that Danny was wont to watch were SATURDAY MORNING television programming, back when there were only CBS, BC, NBC, and PBS to choose from.
It would be helpful if we could know whether or not the movie "THE SUMMER OF '42" -- released in theaters on 19 April 1971 -- was shown on TV in the afternoon-ish time in early December of 1978 or 1979 or 1980 (etc.) . . . but maybe it's too much to expect that Kubrick would have checked the broadcast times for the network showing of that 1971 film in the Colorado area. For that matter, Kubrick -- by then living in England -- might not have been as aware of the fact that the cartoons Danny watched were shown -- in America -- on Saturday mornings, and wouldn't have been seen on TV on a Wednesday or a Thursday.
Filming for The Shining began in May 1978 and wrapped in July 1979, and the Playgirl magazine Jack is seen with in the lobby is dated January 1978. There’s a chance this was handed to Nicholson as a joke during filming-no solid proof, but it feels plausible.
I personally believe 1975 is the intended setting for the story. This aligns with Stephen King's book, which takes place in 1975, and works with the 42-day timeline, as well as the various timestamps Kubrick included. When The Shining was released on video in 1981, viewers didn’t have the technology to zoom in on small details like the magazine date. It likely took decades for audiences to catch this, but knowing Kubrick, he probably anticipated that future viewers would eventually pick up on details like these. His mix of precision, subtle humor, and forward-thinking keeps us analyzing even the smallest choices decades later.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
- Colorado Kelly
I just noticed how long your response was I will respond to your other points soon!
Thank you
I saw somebody claim the Miami show is "real life". I'm surprised nobody tried to find the airing date for that. Not that Kubrick couldn't have mixed things up, not caring to keep it "real life".
Wow! News to me! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Colorado Kelly
Great point regarding The Bugs Bunny Road Runner Show airing on Saturday mornings! That would mean Jack’s interview at the Overlook took place on a Saturday too, since Wendy and Danny are watching/listening to Road Runner in the Boulder apartment. You’ve definitely given me a lot to think about. Thanks for your comments and insight-I’ll be making another video about this soon!
It would not surprise me at all if the stay at the Overlook was exactly 42 days. Nothing would surprise me WRT this film. I saw it in the theater when it first came out in 1980 (yes, I'm that old), and it had haunted me ever since. In the years since it has only grown in its influence,
That is powerful and I feel the exact same way!!! Thank you so much for commenting and watching! Kelly
The woman in the bathtub in room 237 is based on a woman being murdered in room 217, Stephen King's novel..
I thought the woman in King's novel committed suicide in the bathtub? I just believe that Stanley took it in a different direction, only my opinion. Thank so much! Kelly
For the last time - The Grady Girls aren't twins! 8 and 10, as the film states (Mr. Ullmann.)
I believe there’s a difference between the two Grady's. Charles Grady, the character Mr. Ullman mentions, had daughters who were 8 and 10 years old. But Delbert Grady, who Jack meets in the bathroom, could be the one associated with the twins. This duality might be Kubrick’s way of playing with timelines and identities, blurring reality in the Overlook Hotel. Thanks so much for commenting! Colorado Kelly
But the actresses ARE twins. So what is the symbolic importance of the twins?
@@laurenanderson61 The Grady twins in The Shining are often interpreted as symbols of duality, mirroring, and the psychological conflicts within Jack and the Overlook Hotel itself. Their appearance as identical twins suggests several layers of symbolic meaning:
1. Duality and Inner Conflict:
2. Mirror Imagery and the Uncanny:
3. Symbolism of Innocence
Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Have a nice day! Kelly
@ColoradoKelly actually Kubrick WAS looking to cast an 8 and 12yr old girls but was very impressed Lisa and Louise Burns' audition so he hired them but never changed anything in the films and the girls were still referred to as 10 and 8.
Is the 42 mentions because of hitchikers guide to galaxy?
Kubrick certainly had a different sense of humor. Given his track record of acquiring early access to works that intrigued him, it’s conceivable he might have come across The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy pre-publication. Imagining that he saw the humor in making 42 a recurring motif in The Shining aligns well with his playful and meticulous style. It would fit perfectly with his reputation for leaving audiences with hidden connections to ponder. Thank you for watching and commenting! Have a nice day Kelly.
@@ColoradoKellythe old lady letting Jack out of the storage room makes no sense. Delbert Grady wanted Jack to kill his family. Plus he announced himself at the door.
@@ppiorkowski1502 Thank you for your comment. I believe that the 24 year old woman could have let Jack out of the pantry. If ghosts can open doors why would they need Jack to kill Danny? Just a theory?? Thank you so much for commenting! Kelly
Wow new sub😊
Thank you for watching, have a great day! Kelly
Isn’t it the Stanley hotel in real life?
Yes, it is the Stanley in Estes Park CO. That is the hotel that Stephen King stayed at and was inspired to write The Shining. It is a beautiful hotel very different then The Overlook in the movie. Have a great day! Kelly
Time stamp for the meaning of 42?
Sorry, I don't understand? Kelly
Cue Brick.
I’ve been working on tongue-twisters to help with my mispronunciations, and using phonetic spelling like ‘Cue Brick’ is a fantastic idea to help! Appreciate the watch and the feedback. Stay tuned for more *Cue Brick* mysteries!
Colorado Kelly
What was the point tree nof this video other to remind us of the movie's plot?
I wanted to highlight how the Torrance family’s 42-day stay at the Overlook connects to the significance of the number 42 in The Shining. I focused on the specific timeframe because I believe Kubrick used it to create an underlying sense of mystery. This is just a theory of mine, but I find it fascinating! Thanks so much for watching and commenting.
Colorado Kelly
absolutely unableto enjoy your horrrible choice of background audio lol
Thanks for the honest feedback on the background audio! I’m always experimenting, so I’ll keep this in mind for future videos. Appreciate you watching despite the audio - Colorado Kelly