What I regret the most in my playthough was not saving the bizarre, didn't realize the quest had a time limit to complete. I really liked those people :(
if you save all his kids, you can either side with him(my first ending), and he sends the transports protected and you can choose either to stay or go back to Arizona. I chose to go back to Arizona, you get decorated by the general and you are know as heroes, Kwon, Lucia and Jodie came with, Scotchmo leaves in search for bars or something. Kwon is your liason with the rangers, Lucia with the Hundred Families, Jodie and her folks live happily ever after. Unfortunately I had to kill Angela because I was 9 in kiss ass and the Patriarch didn't want her banished, it was the saddest part, killing her. The general also decorates her as a hero, but they know she was a traitor and they never talk about her again after. The Patriarch tries to reconnect to Liberty, while he keeps a close eye on her, but he never names a successor, and after he will die, colorado will have to fend for itself... and we would probably need to find new suppliers. In the meanwhile, supplies are coming, some get raided, but they are always enough. I'm ok with this ending, it being my first, I liked it a lot, it's bitter sweet!
@@mrmoviemanic1 She is. Her idea was bullshit from start to finish. People are starving back home and she wants to kill the guy who can give them supplies. Yeah I'm sure people of Colorado will be glad to hear that the Rangers have killed their leader and are now taking food and stuff. Oh and her brilliant idea to stay in Colorado to watch over it, as if there isn't a shortage of Rangers back in Arizona
The latest patch drops the loading time to 1/4 or something like that, pretty nice. Too bad I was already 90% through.. finished the game, really good.. best wasteland so far.. :D
@@juniperburton7693 The hardware wasn't the bottleneck; I have Force Series Gen.4 PCIe MP600 2TB NVMe M.2 SSD (4,950MB/s sequential reads) and CPU was 4.5 GHz 10-core i9. What I witnessed when the game was loading was that it took very little CPU and I/O from the disk was really low.. the CPU utilization was less than 10% on one core, other cores were basically idling. What this tells me is that there is a software architectural problem; the code is sleeping on a lock somewhere. Modern hardware require pipelined software architecture; ONE thread should be doing I/O, hammering the storage device - but just ONE thread, so that the threads won't fight over the same resource. As the data becomes available it should be processed simultaneously on other thread(s). If the data arrives too quickly, say, on my case at nearly 5 GB/s it could fill up my 64 GB of RAM in 12 seconds flat. Loading the levels took more like 30-50 seconds, and the IO was closer to 40 MB/s.. so only 1% of the hardware I/O was utilized; it definitely wasn't the bottleneck there. The scenario where you load data as quickly as possible has to be throttled when the back-end cant keep up to avoid filling the RAM with temporary data. It depends, but having 100-200 MB reserved for in-flight data is fairly reasonable. OK, so don't let the pre-fetcher to go too fast. the only problem is when it is too slow, which means you have a hardware bottleneck. This clearly isn't case here. A lot of code is simple to write in linear fashion: first load a file, or open a file for parsing, process and parse it and finally you have data available. Let's say, an image file is opened and read. Then you create a texture, upload the data to the graphics processor and repeat from beginning. The problem with approach like this is that you're utilizing the hardware really poorly. While the image file is decoded the SSD/HDD isn't doing anything, and so forth. So you pipeline the asset loading; break it into logical stages and distribute them when it makes sense. Then, if you have a super-fast SSD like I do, it can load data super fast, so you might want to process multiple image files simultaneously and so on. Seeing 5% CPU utilization and 1% SSD utilization for 40 seconds can be transformed into seeing 100% CPU utilization for 2 seconds when the code is crafted in a way that it used the hardware. A famous computer scientist Donald Knuth is quited saying the "premature optimization is root of all evil" (he didn't say it but it's attributed to him), and that is what you are seeing at play here with the Wasteland 3 and Unity 3D engine. Once the bottleneck was serious enough that it caught consumers attention it caught the developers attention and they fixed it. In short: throwing more hardware at a software problem is not the solution. The solution was that the developers (inXile Entertainment) improved their code. Same hardware, at least 300% faster code.. the game would probably have loaded new areas for 30+ seconds even with 20 times faster CPU and SSD; the problem simply wasn't the hardware but how it was used.
theres another secret ending, which after tutorial mission, you kill patriach after the first meet (using any method), then the slides of songs came by mentioned you "the godly humans"
Yeah and she says "you don't value the rule of law at all" when I stopped her from killing the Dorsey boss and some other traitors that we arrested instead, I arrested all of the Buchanans kids, gave them to the Rangers because the Marshalls are said to be corrupted, preferred every life saving options over looting or money reward...etc. Arrested the cloning guy, arrested the Machine Shop guy. The only one I didn't arrest and killed him was the Casino dude, because when he surrendered he accidentally caught on fire by a Molotov i threw the round before, so it automatically skipped the dialog options and launched combat mode until he died
@@SmithyD86I had it happened on my current playthough. Pretty sure it's because i have "loved" reputation with 100 Families & Lucia's uncle is a Political Advisor at Ranger HQ because i arrested Mama Cotter this playthough. I guess Lucia just hates refugees.
The ending felt really rushed. Like few encounters and that's it. They could let you roam more and talk to everyone at least, for some more lore. Overall, they could do it a bit better, it felt they were really running out of budget near the second half of the game. Making all those allies and enemies didn't meant much. They did not impacted the gameplay really.
for lore , you can go to your ranger hq brig (before you head downtown or the palace) and speak to those who were jailed( if you had send them to ranger HQ) to know what they think about your choices . The gangster boss and patriarch's kids mainly
@@demonspawn5164 Well, just overthrow him "peacefully" by having his police, and other groups to gang up on him. Sadly, that means killing Brygo (win over the police), and turning Machine Commune into isolationism.
@@archieames1968 Not true. You side with them to keep control of Colorado. Plus the Patriarchs whole thing is that he's a sheep pretending to be a wolf.
@@mongooseunleashed no he's fucking not. He single handedly brought stability to Colorado. He is a dictator but a benevolent one. If he was such a manipulative bastard he would have let liberty take control already.
Got the best ending. Hell yeah. Took down the Patriarch without a fight, sent supplies to Arizona thus uniting both CS and AZ under the Rangers banner. All his kids alive and in prison, Bizzare still under Flab's command, max fame, i got the "Loved" status with everyone exept the gippers which i got Neutral with. Very happy about that. Played on "Wastelander" difficulty as it was the first time i touched this game but i will deffo revisit it in the future on higher diff. Did everysingle quest available. A 50 hours playthrough.
Nonetheless it was a good outcome for colorado's stability and ranger's situation banished patriarch and invited general woodson(i reckon he's upset that i had to kill his brother) killed cordite so no bloodshed in kansas destroyed all the gangs in yuma so they were'nt any problem put reagan in ranger hq so gippers kept sending oil worshipping their gods from outside One bad thing is arizona is vunerable to raiders now
@@cagrsengul5701 I think it's just better if you fully support the Patriarch (not kill any of his children). He kept his deal and sent resource over to Arizona HQ regularly. He made none of his children the heir and it was mentioned that Rangers become so trusted that you got to become Kingmaker. Plus, you got 2 forces in both Colorado & Arizona, thriving.
Yee the patriarch may seem like a psychopath/dictator, he makes really good point gotta give it to him.And like some other dude here said he keeps his promise if you don't kill his children and keeps sendin resources to Arizona
Wow, this seems like you can have a lot of different endings and the choices really matter. I just finished siding with Angela and that was a pretty good ending, I arrested Kwon and killed Patriarch and Vic. I wish I saved the bizarre but it wasn't my priority ;/
The ending tested whether or not you're a man of your word, betraying the promise you made to the Patriarch would've just been dishonorable regardless if he had a shady past or not. A promise made is a promise kept.
The best ending in the game is the November Reigns ending and involves betraying the Patriarch. He's a despot, that's a bit deeper than a "shady past" and really it's his shady present and future that are equally as concerning as his past. How can you trust a man who raises twisted maniac kids and hires a special forces unit to do his parenting for him to raise a community? That's why you should never make promises in the first place, you should just tell people where you stand. Betraying your morals is way more spineless than breaking any foolishly made promises.
@@UnvisibleINK "Shady present and future" ? His on his last legs, the fuck are you talking about, "betraying your morals" morality is very subjective, so there are no morals that November had to abide by, besides taking care of their people in Arizona, honor is above morals in any case, November gets to rule Colorado after the Patriarch dies, and as a result the rangers now have 2 cities and can help eachother out whilst not being notorious for betraying their word.
@@aloptuleamagnificanton4983 I swear I already replied to this. Maybe youtube "vanished" my cmment. Anyway, yeah there is totally a Ranger specific morality. It comes up in many dialogue options and is point blank the reason Angela Deth abandoned her mission; because working with tyrants like Buchanan goes against the Ranger ideals. Buchanan's shady future is his legacy. I don't know if you noticed, but Colorado is a horrible place that nobody should want to live in. Also his children are such horrifying maniacs that Buchanan has to hire a special ops unit to run around and do his parenting for him. Dude's not fit to wipe his own butt. Speaking of wiping, Buchanan almost wiped out the entire Dorsey family because they were advocating for democracy and despite being close to death still hasn't prepared for any kind of general election so that the people can elect a leader to replace him. His most likely replacement is his crazy daughter Liberty. He's sown all those seeds, so regardless whether or not he dies, his negative impact on the future of Colorado is still relevant. Lastly you should really just look up the November Reigns ending. It's not in this video. It has the best possible outcomes for both Colorado and Arizona, and it also involves opposing the Patriarch. Not many people get this ending cause you have to get pretty much all the factions to love you but it's clearly the best ending. So yeah, check that ending out first and then get back to me and tell me if you still think the game is trying to preach that honoring a promise made in bad faith is preferable to taking a stand for the greater good.
@@UnvisibleINK Ahhh.. here we go again... "The greater good" (on a side note it just sounds so socialistic), anyway I'm not the type of person who likes to makes friends with everyone, and I also find it rather unrealistic that the Rangers would bother to make themselves liked by everyone, the democracy thing, you can call me whatever you want but democracy has always been a system of deception and manipulation if you want proof of that just look at the US presidential elections, so yeah I am inclined to support a monarchy over a democracy, it just comes down to how you view the world I guess. Besides it's not as if others would start showing their weaknesses when their kids are actively fighting againts them to gain control of your city. Colorado might not be the best example of living standards, but considering the circumstances, I'd say the Patriarch managed to maintain relatively safe that one corner of the world. You could totally go for the good ol'fellas ending and be friends with everyone, the thing that ain't a realistic perspective on things, you would never be able to become friends with everyone, and even if you did you would leave yourself opened for backstabbers that will take advantage of your kindness.
@@aloptuleamagnificanton4983 You're getting way off topic. The point is that the game isn't pushing a "be a man of your word" narrative like you said it was, and that Buchanan is an incompetent buffoon, regardless of how things turn out in the game for Colorado or Arizona. Whatever you think about democracy or whether you would have experienced such and such in your playthrough is irrelevant. Personally, I've never gotten the November Reigns ending either, I just know about it through discussion and know that it is the best ending in terms of outcome for everyone. So whether you address this or not, that means that if the game is pushing a narrative, that narrative is "you can change things for the better but only if you're diplomatic and friendly to everyone, and kind of two faced and a bit of a politician." Whether you agree with that or not, it's the playthrough that gets the best ending. I don't like to be too diplomatic or wishy washy when I play RPGs. I either try to push the game towards my own moral compass to see how the game reacts or I investigate the game's lore to see if there are any in game "philosophies" that align with my own and I play that game that way. This usually causes enemies to made in most RPGs, but also makes them more interesting. But that's also why I think the endings are arbitrary and irrelevant to some extent, because what makes sense in the context of playing the game isn't always recognised in the game code when doling out the ending. For example killing the Gippers somehow makes the oil inaccessible. Why? Is everyone too lazy/incompetent to go to now completely abandoned oil facilities and get all the free oil? And no, I don't advocate wiping out entire tribes of people just because they're nuts/republicans, but it is something that I know happens in the game. Now I'm getting off topic. Point is that the game isn't advocating "promise culture" like you said or telling the player not to rock the boat. Also the game doesn't particularly encourage the player to make nearly as many excuses for Buchanan as you do. Most NPCs either hate him or distrust him, even Kwon, Daisy and Greatski have their doubts about him which is why they help overthrow him in the ending I've been talking about this whole time. I'll say it one more time. I don't know if you've noticed, but Colorado is horrible. The least insane locations are the Bizarre and the Machine Commune. I'm even pretty sure he designers knew that most sensible players would want to overthrow the Patriarch which is why they made it difficult to do successfully, but also made it the best ending in the game.
Guys for my opinion the best option is not to cooperate with cordite nor Angela death both are villains. Cordite want to lead his gang again and destroy everything with his crazzy gang and make chaos everywhere. Angela want to replace the patriarch and take corolado and to do that she will kill innocent ppl, she just using the rangers for her own that's all, And for the last is the deal with the patriarch to save arizona from starvation and death so even if he betrayed you, you still have some cards to make the deal happens bcz its just a deal between the rangers and the patriarch, and for him he just want to make colorado a safe place and protect his own ppl.
8:14 - It's not the Ranger way to help warlords and dictators .............. - then what about Ironclad Cordite - see 11:46 for what Angela Deth unleashed on Kansas and Colorado 10:18 - If only you were smart instead of just a smart ass ...... totally agrees with Patriarch remark on Angela Deth 11:37-Sounds like Angela Deth was trying to subtly get Team November out of Colorado and back to Arizona in the name of protecting the supply route to prevent a slow death of Arizona. The shrew
The whole Angela Deth storyline was the worst part of the game, it made 0 sense. She hated the Patriarch because he's an evil dictator according to her, but she wants us to rescue a man who wants to enslave all of Kansas? Wtf... The worst part is, you can't even tell her this, the game doesn't let you.
@@kylio95 exactly but I guess the creators made her thinking to parallel some real life people's thinking. It shows how our in our reality, some people's thinking are just as messed up as hers.
@@kylio95 Yeah and she has a little rebel army but has zero plan about who will replace the Patriarch nor any political project what so ever about Colorado except "oh, here are some ranger, let's see if they want to take over"
Honestly, this is a great game and all, but the game is so rushed after Vic, the Liberty storyline is not good at all, very underwhelming actually, so is the ending. And what the fuck was that Angela Deth storyline? Sorry but that was so badly written. She literally made me rescue an enslaving warlord who's hellbent on enslaving all of Kansas and creating an imperial empire because the Patriarch is a bad man? Oh please, how fucking stupid is this woman. I shot that prick as soon as he tried to justify slavery and said he's going to build this great gang. Yet I could only tell Angela he died? Why couldn't I tell her WTF? That she completely wasted my time. And on top of that she called me a fucking idiot for killing him later in the game, even though the guy is 100x worse than the Patriarch she wants us to kill. I just don't understand her logic at all. It would be fine if the game allowed your character to tell her all this, but it doesn't. You have to basically tell her "No, I'm on the patriarch's side" and it's pretty shitty.
I had november reigns. Valor lives, Vic explode, Liberty is captured and take Colorado whitout blood bath. Best ending but... I'm not had the change to prove the nuclear armor and the nooka zoka.
realistically the patriarch is an angel compared to all the other cannibal and genocidal robot factions and a lot more feasible than Angela's naive ideas about utopia.
The patriarch is evil, but a necessary evil. On the other hand, Angela is the "Rangers way" (back from Wasteland 2). Whatever you decide, there are no "good" or "bad" ending, which leaves you more or less confused. I've signed up with Angela, and decided to bring supplies to Arizona, saving my people. That being said, i've let Valor live, killed Victory because he was insane, and also killed Liberty because she was a Tyran. From what i see, if you stick to the Patriarch side without bringing back all his children alive, he won't be sending supplies to Arizona and your people will die.
thats a bruh moment yeah, I did it. Tho I don’t know if there is other ways, I did it by sending Reagan to the Machine Commune and killing all of the Gippers, Convincing Vic to join us, and Arresting Liberty instead of killing. I forgot if it required hardass or not to arrest liberty.
I got none of these endings, when I returned to HQ I wasn't greeted by either Angela or Patriarch's crew. The battle there already took place half the people were dead and I was free to roam around. Than at the final battle, Angela was my enemy and all the gangs plus Patriarch's army were my allies for the fight. Once I beat Angela I had a choice to kill Patriarch or not, but what's funny about all of this is that I wanted to side with Angela. I killed 2 out of the 3 children from Patriarch and I guess this was the result? I guess I wasn't really on anybody's side since I neither saved all 3 kids or killed all 3 kids, but than why was Angela my enemy and why were Patriarch's army my allies at the final battle? My ending made no sense at all but it was an awesome game, one of my favorites.
There are several occasions in the game when Angela contacts you and if you didn't do what she said (kill the Patriarch's kids, free Cordite, KEEP Cordite with you, and few other I forgot) she will ask you why, and you have several possibilities to answer, something like "You made us look bad in front of the Patriarch" or " It isn't our mission" or even other random answers. I guess basically the game is trying to understand your point of view, if you are doing it for her and the Colorado people, for the Patriarch, or maybe you aren't sure because you are just following Arizona Rangers orders ? At some point if you have chosen conflicting answer and did not clearly took a side then you probably get your ending. To be honest for me it was very frustrating, because the Patriarch wasn't a good leader but he wasn't evil (not like his daughter and son), so I was ready for Angela to talk and convince me, but she basically say nothing, except that he is a Tyrant. But the crazy part is she didn't even mention who would replace him, and how, which alliance and how that would help Colorado and Arizona, nothing. I liked Angie very much from the OG so I gave her the benefice of the doubt, most of the game I followed what she said but not 100% (Agreed to free Cordite but refuse to ally with a slaver, got himself killed by Liberty at the end, she impaled him on a stick lol, also I agreed to take down Liberty and her gangs because they are dangerous but I said to Angela that I wasn't sure her strategy would help Colorado) At the very end I accepted to side with her but i facepalmed when they said "everyone heard you on the radio and killed each other in the Rangers HQ" like WTF, who even talk about that on open channels lol
i got kinda a good sort of ending. thing i dont understand is why not send supplies back to arizona now that i have all the rangers here in colarado. like wtf
I killed Vic and Liberty, and the only to get the supplies were to hold Valor hostage using Hard Ass or maybe Barter (mine wasn’t high enough to try) and you leave with very bad term with the patriarch.
Was playing through this game with a friend, about 1/3rd in, accidentally got the godfishers to kill the gippers including valor, is my chances with a good ending with the Patriarch ruined??
I ask cause i dont trust the Patriarch or his kids at all but I dont think Angela cares about the people of Colorado like she says, she’s just trying to exploit the situation for the benefits of the rangers and Arizona. I wanted to work towards a peaceful transition of power, or a more peaceful coup for a better leader to benefit both Arizona and Colorado but i think i fucked things up lol, i rushed into a few situations too fast.
Best ending involves siding with Angela, it's just tricky to unlock, but also just because you saw people bail in this video doesn't mean they will in your playthrough. If you help Lucia track down her father and confront him after either killing or arresting Liberty she learns that he massacred the Dorsey family a while back and blames him and the Patriarch for her mother and brother's death. In my game she was so jaded she stuck around to take Buchanan down. Only Jodie and Kwon bailed but they weren't in my active party by then anyway. But yeah, anyway this video is lying when it says "all endings".
@@UnvisibleINK That's weird, in my playthough I did Lucia's quest arresting her father and when I sided with Angela, she attacked my other characters and got shot down by Angela. Maybe because I made her kill her ex boyfriend instead of arresting him?
@@dificulttocure Maybe, there's a few things you gotta do to get the November Reigns ending. To get Lucia to wanna take down Buchanan you have to complete the Dorsey missions so that the leader (I think Nelius, but I could be getting the names mixed up) tells you how the Dorseys entered into the feud with Buchanan (Lucia's father is implicated in the story), then you have to rescue her father from Liberty and ask him about what Dorsey told you. Pretty sure if you do both of those things Lucia agrees to help take down Buchanan even if you don't get the green light from the Marshals. If you can get a loved reputation from the Marshals, and the hundred families and speak to sheriff Daisy about taking down Buchanan then you get the green light to take him down with the help of his own army, on account of all the war crimes and tyranny and stuff. It's not that hard to do, there's just a few key missions you have to complete and you don't have to screw over the refugees that much. You do have to arrest Mama Cotter but she won't stay mad at you forever. As long as you avoid doing things that upset Sheriff Daisy then you can get the November Reigns ending and achievement pretty easily.
yup. definitely noticeably worse than the others. but then, a LOT of the voices were done by professional voice actors with decades of work in games and anime.
What I regret the most in my playthough was not saving the bizarre, didn't realize the quest had a time limit to complete. I really liked those people :(
if you save all his kids, you can either side with him(my first ending), and he sends the transports protected and you can choose either to stay or go back to Arizona. I chose to go back to Arizona, you get decorated by the general and you are know as heroes, Kwon, Lucia and Jodie came with, Scotchmo leaves in search for bars or something. Kwon is your liason with the rangers, Lucia with the Hundred Families, Jodie and her folks live happily ever after. Unfortunately I had to kill Angela because I was 9 in kiss ass and the Patriarch didn't want her banished, it was the saddest part, killing her. The general also decorates her as a hero, but they know she was a traitor and they never talk about her again after. The Patriarch tries to reconnect to Liberty, while he keeps a close eye on her, but he never names a successor, and after he will die, colorado will have to fend for itself... and we would probably need to find new suppliers. In the meanwhile, supplies are coming, some get raided, but they are always enough.
I'm ok with this ending, it being my first, I liked it a lot, it's bitter sweet!
If you stay in Colorado the Rangers become the Patriarch's Successor
Angela I feel was a lost soul by this point, she kills all the refugees and really just feels like she’s more of a chaos bringer.
@@mrmoviemanic1
She is. Her idea was bullshit from start to finish.
People are starving back home and she wants to kill the guy who can give them supplies. Yeah I'm sure people of Colorado will be glad to hear that the Rangers have killed their leader and are now taking food and stuff.
Oh and her brilliant idea to stay in Colorado to watch over it, as if there isn't a shortage of Rangers back in Arizona
I played the game for like 30 hours and I'm sure 10 of that was loading screens lol
The latest patch drops the loading time to 1/4 or something like that, pretty nice. Too bad I was already 90% through.. finished the game, really good.. best wasteland so far.. :D
Having 2 NVME drives in Raid 0 helps with that a lot.
@@juniperburton7693 The hardware wasn't the bottleneck; I have Force Series Gen.4 PCIe MP600 2TB NVMe M.2 SSD (4,950MB/s sequential reads) and CPU was 4.5 GHz 10-core i9. What I witnessed when the game was loading was that it took very little CPU and I/O from the disk was really low.. the CPU utilization was less than 10% on one core, other cores were basically idling. What this tells me is that there is a software architectural problem; the code is sleeping on a lock somewhere.
Modern hardware require pipelined software architecture; ONE thread should be doing I/O, hammering the storage device - but just ONE thread, so that the threads won't fight over the same resource. As the data becomes available it should be processed simultaneously on other thread(s). If the data arrives too quickly, say, on my case at nearly 5 GB/s it could fill up my 64 GB of RAM in 12 seconds flat. Loading the levels took more like 30-50 seconds, and the IO was closer to 40 MB/s.. so only 1% of the hardware I/O was utilized; it definitely wasn't the bottleneck there.
The scenario where you load data as quickly as possible has to be throttled when the back-end cant keep up to avoid filling the RAM with temporary data. It depends, but having 100-200 MB reserved for in-flight data is fairly reasonable. OK, so don't let the pre-fetcher to go too fast. the only problem is when it is too slow, which means you have a hardware bottleneck. This clearly isn't case here.
A lot of code is simple to write in linear fashion: first load a file, or open a file for parsing, process and parse it and finally you have data available. Let's say, an image file is opened and read. Then you create a texture, upload the data to the graphics processor and repeat from beginning. The problem with approach like this is that you're utilizing the hardware really poorly. While the image file is decoded the SSD/HDD isn't doing anything, and so forth.
So you pipeline the asset loading; break it into logical stages and distribute them when it makes sense. Then, if you have a super-fast SSD like I do, it can load data super fast, so you might want to process multiple image files simultaneously and so on.
Seeing 5% CPU utilization and 1% SSD utilization for 40 seconds can be transformed into seeing 100% CPU utilization for 2 seconds when the code is crafted in a way that it used the hardware.
A famous computer scientist Donald Knuth is quited saying the "premature optimization is root of all evil" (he didn't say it but it's attributed to him), and that is what you are seeing at play here with the Wasteland 3 and Unity 3D engine. Once the bottleneck was serious enough that it caught consumers attention it caught the developers attention and they fixed it.
In short: throwing more hardware at a software problem is not the solution. The solution was that the developers (inXile Entertainment) improved their code. Same hardware, at least 300% faster code.. the game would probably have loaded new areas for 30+ seconds even with 20 times faster CPU and SSD; the problem simply wasn't the hardware but how it was used.
SSD drives aren't that pricey now
laoded fine for me and my wooden PC
This game woulda been a 9/10 if my game didn't crash times while i was fighting in the ranger hq
Same here...try it one week. Finally did it
theres another secret ending, which after tutorial mission, you kill patriach after the first meet (using any method), then the slides of songs came by mentioned you "the godly humans"
What is this ending???
Could you make a vid on this cause I haven't been able to find anything similar to this?
Lucia's death was a... WTF for me :')
The only wtf there, was, that I couldnt loot her body to get my stuff back :/
Yeah and she says "you don't value the rule of law at all" when I stopped her from killing the Dorsey boss and some other traitors that we arrested instead, I arrested all of the Buchanans kids, gave them to the Rangers because the Marshalls are said to be corrupted, preferred every life saving options over looting or money reward...etc. Arrested the cloning guy, arrested the Machine Shop guy. The only one I didn't arrest and killed him was the Casino dude, because when he surrendered he accidentally caught on fire by a Molotov i threw the round before, so it automatically skipped the dialog options and launched combat mode until he died
I managed, her staying with Team November. Only Marschal Kwon cant be convinced to fight the Patriach
@@blaubeerprinz5291 how do you manage that?
@@SmithyD86I had it happened on my current playthough. Pretty sure it's because i have "loved" reputation with 100 Families & Lucia's uncle is a Political Advisor at Ranger HQ because i arrested Mama Cotter this playthough. I guess Lucia just hates refugees.
meh, there are a lot of parts to the endings you skipped over. frankly, completely covered this vid should be about an hour and a half long.
The ending felt really rushed.
Like few encounters and that's it.
They could let you roam more and talk to everyone at least, for some more lore.
Overall, they could do it a bit better, it felt they were really running out of budget near the second half of the game.
Making all those allies and enemies didn't meant much.
They did not impacted the gameplay really.
It was an amazing game first 2 or 3 playthroughs but yea I started to feel the same way but guess it couldn't be perfect but more than satisfying
for lore , you can go to your ranger hq brig (before you head downtown or the palace) and speak to those who were jailed( if you had send them to ranger HQ) to know what they think about your choices . The gangster boss and patriarch's kids mainly
You're missing November Reigns. The actual happy ending.
How? Kill both Angela and patriarch?
@@demonspawn5164 Well, just overthrow him "peacefully" by having his police, and other groups to gang up on him.
Sadly, that means killing Brygo (win over the police), and turning Machine Commune into isolationism.
The 'best' ending where you side with the thug police and rich people and show everyone you are a backstabber who reneges on their deals.
@@archieames1968 Not true. You side with them to keep control of Colorado. Plus the Patriarchs whole thing is that he's a sheep pretending to be a wolf.
@@mongooseunleashed no he's fucking not. He single handedly brought stability to Colorado. He is a dictator but a benevolent one. If he was such a manipulative bastard he would have let liberty take control already.
Got the best ending. Hell yeah.
Took down the Patriarch without a fight, sent supplies to Arizona thus uniting both CS and AZ under the Rangers banner. All his kids alive and in prison, Bizzare still under Flab's command, max fame, i got the "Loved" status with everyone exept the gippers which i got Neutral with.
Very happy about that. Played on "Wastelander" difficulty as it was the first time i touched this game but i will deffo revisit it in the future on higher diff. Did everysingle quest available.
A 50 hours playthrough.
How did you piss off the patriarch? I honored the deal with him and he sent the supplies no problem
His sons were killed (bad decision)
I regret siding with angela, patriarch was fully rightious. I just didnt want to kill the og angie
Nonetheless it was a good outcome for colorado's stability and ranger's situation
banished patriarch and invited general woodson(i reckon he's upset that i had to kill his brother)
killed cordite so no bloodshed in kansas
destroyed all the gangs in yuma so they were'nt any problem
put reagan in ranger hq so gippers kept sending oil worshipping their gods from outside
One bad thing is arizona is vunerable to raiders now
@@cagrsengul5701 I think it's just better if you fully support the Patriarch (not kill any of his children). He kept his deal and sent resource over to Arizona HQ regularly. He made none of his children the heir and it was mentioned that Rangers become so trusted that you got to become Kingmaker. Plus, you got 2 forces in both Colorado & Arizona, thriving.
Yee the patriarch may seem like a psychopath/dictator, he makes really good point gotta give it to him.And like some other dude here said he keeps his promise if you don't kill his children and keeps sendin resources to Arizona
It's what's nice with this game, no one's entirely the good person, makes them all the more relatable.
Same. Killing patriach wouldn't be the best thing for him either. He never went extremely bad just letting things happen for good of his community
You miss the best ending, save all his sons and side with him.
Wow, this seems like you can have a lot of different endings and the choices really matter. I just finished siding with Angela and that was a pretty good ending, I arrested Kwon and killed Patriarch and Vic. I wish I saved the bizarre but it wasn't my priority ;/
The ending tested whether or not you're a man of your word, betraying the promise you made to the Patriarch would've just been dishonorable regardless if he had a shady past or not. A promise made is a promise kept.
The best ending in the game is the November Reigns ending and involves betraying the Patriarch. He's a despot, that's a bit deeper than a "shady past" and really it's his shady present and future that are equally as concerning as his past. How can you trust a man who raises twisted maniac kids and hires a special forces unit to do his parenting for him to raise a community? That's why you should never make promises in the first place, you should just tell people where you stand. Betraying your morals is way more spineless than breaking any foolishly made promises.
@@UnvisibleINK "Shady present and future" ?
His on his last legs, the fuck are you talking about, "betraying your morals" morality is very subjective, so there are no morals that November had to abide by, besides taking care of their people in Arizona, honor is above morals in any case, November gets to rule Colorado after the Patriarch dies, and as a result the rangers now have 2 cities and can help eachother out whilst not being notorious for betraying their word.
@@aloptuleamagnificanton4983 I swear I already replied to this. Maybe youtube "vanished" my cmment. Anyway, yeah there is totally a Ranger specific morality. It comes up in many dialogue options and is point blank the reason Angela Deth abandoned her mission; because working with tyrants like Buchanan goes against the Ranger ideals.
Buchanan's shady future is his legacy. I don't know if you noticed, but Colorado is a horrible place that nobody should want to live in. Also his children are such horrifying maniacs that Buchanan has to hire a special ops unit to run around and do his parenting for him. Dude's not fit to wipe his own butt. Speaking of wiping, Buchanan almost wiped out the entire Dorsey family because they were advocating for democracy and despite being close to death still hasn't prepared for any kind of general election so that the people can elect a leader to replace him. His most likely replacement is his crazy daughter Liberty. He's sown all those seeds, so regardless whether or not he dies, his negative impact on the future of Colorado is still relevant.
Lastly you should really just look up the November Reigns ending. It's not in this video. It has the best possible outcomes for both Colorado and Arizona, and it also involves opposing the Patriarch. Not many people get this ending cause you have to get pretty much all the factions to love you but it's clearly the best ending. So yeah, check that ending out first and then get back to me and tell me if you still think the game is trying to preach that honoring a promise made in bad faith is preferable to taking a stand for the greater good.
@@UnvisibleINK Ahhh.. here we go again...
"The greater good" (on a side note it just sounds so socialistic), anyway I'm not the type of person who likes to makes friends with everyone, and I also find it rather unrealistic that the Rangers would bother to make themselves liked by everyone, the democracy thing, you can call me whatever you want but democracy has always been a system of deception and manipulation if you want proof of that just look at the US presidential elections, so yeah I am inclined to support a monarchy over a democracy, it just comes down to how you view the world I guess. Besides it's not as if others would start showing their weaknesses when their kids are actively fighting againts them to gain control of your city. Colorado might not be the best example of living standards, but considering the circumstances, I'd say the Patriarch managed to maintain relatively safe that one corner of the world. You could totally go for the good ol'fellas ending and be friends with everyone, the thing that ain't a realistic perspective on things, you would never be able to become friends with everyone, and even if you did you would leave yourself opened for backstabbers that will take advantage of your kindness.
@@aloptuleamagnificanton4983 You're getting way off topic. The point is that the game isn't pushing a "be a man of your word" narrative like you said it was, and that Buchanan is an incompetent buffoon, regardless of how things turn out in the game for Colorado or Arizona. Whatever you think about democracy or whether you would have experienced such and such in your playthrough is irrelevant.
Personally, I've never gotten the November Reigns ending either, I just know about it through discussion and know that it is the best ending in terms of outcome for everyone. So whether you address this or not, that means that if the game is pushing a narrative, that narrative is "you can change things for the better but only if you're diplomatic and friendly to everyone, and kind of two faced and a bit of a politician." Whether you agree with that or not, it's the playthrough that gets the best ending.
I don't like to be too diplomatic or wishy washy when I play RPGs. I either try to push the game towards my own moral compass to see how the game reacts or I investigate the game's lore to see if there are any in game "philosophies" that align with my own and I play that game that way. This usually causes enemies to made in most RPGs, but also makes them more interesting. But that's also why I think the endings are arbitrary and irrelevant to some extent, because what makes sense in the context of playing the game isn't always recognised in the game code when doling out the ending. For example killing the Gippers somehow makes the oil inaccessible. Why? Is everyone too lazy/incompetent to go to now completely abandoned oil facilities and get all the free oil? And no, I don't advocate wiping out entire tribes of people just because they're nuts/republicans, but it is something that I know happens in the game.
Now I'm getting off topic. Point is that the game isn't advocating "promise culture" like you said or telling the player not to rock the boat. Also the game doesn't particularly encourage the player to make nearly as many excuses for Buchanan as you do. Most NPCs either hate him or distrust him, even Kwon, Daisy and Greatski have their doubts about him which is why they help overthrow him in the ending I've been talking about this whole time.
I'll say it one more time. I don't know if you've noticed, but Colorado is horrible. The least insane locations are the Bizarre and the Machine Commune. I'm even pretty sure he designers knew that most sensible players would want to overthrow the Patriarch which is why they made it difficult to do successfully, but also made it the best ending in the game.
Guys for my opinion the best option is not to cooperate with cordite nor Angela death both are villains.
Cordite want to lead his gang again and destroy everything with his crazzy gang and make chaos everywhere.
Angela want to replace the patriarch and take corolado and to do that she will kill innocent ppl, she just using the rangers for her own that's all,
And for the last is the deal with the patriarch to save arizona from starvation and death so even if he betrayed you, you still have some cards to make the deal happens bcz its just a deal between the rangers and the patriarch, and for him he just want to make colorado a safe place and protect his own ppl.
8:14 - It's not the Ranger way to help warlords and dictators .............. - then what about Ironclad Cordite - see 11:46 for what Angela Deth unleashed on Kansas and Colorado
10:18 - If only you were smart instead of just a smart ass ...... totally agrees with Patriarch remark on Angela Deth
11:37-Sounds like Angela Deth was trying to subtly get Team November out of Colorado and back to Arizona in the name of protecting the supply route to prevent a slow death of Arizona. The shrew
The whole Angela Deth storyline was the worst part of the game, it made 0 sense. She hated the Patriarch because he's an evil dictator according to her, but she wants us to rescue a man who wants to enslave all of Kansas? Wtf...
The worst part is, you can't even tell her this, the game doesn't let you.
@@kylio95 exactly but I guess the creators made her thinking to parallel some real life people's thinking. It shows how our in our reality, some people's thinking are just as messed up as hers.
@@prastagus3 be careful. this is just a game. don't project your own personal beliefs onto it.
@@thomasneal9291 can't help it if there are real life parallels out there but will be careful like you said.
@@kylio95 Yeah and she has a little rebel army but has zero plan about who will replace the Patriarch nor any political project what so ever about Colorado except "oh, here are some ranger, let's see if they want to take over"
Honestly, this is a great game and all, but the game is so rushed after Vic, the Liberty storyline is not good at all, very underwhelming actually, so is the ending.
And what the fuck was that Angela Deth storyline? Sorry but that was so badly written. She literally made me rescue an enslaving warlord who's hellbent on enslaving all of Kansas and creating an imperial empire because the Patriarch is a bad man? Oh please, how fucking stupid is this woman. I shot that prick as soon as he tried to justify slavery and said he's going to build this great gang. Yet I could only tell Angela he died? Why couldn't I tell her WTF? That she completely wasted my time. And on top of that she called me a fucking idiot for killing him later in the game, even though the guy is 100x worse than the Patriarch she wants us to kill.
I just don't understand her logic at all. It would be fine if the game allowed your character to tell her all this, but it doesn't. You have to basically tell her "No, I'm on the patriarch's side" and it's pretty shitty.
What the hell man, you didn’t kill Vic?
I had november reigns. Valor lives, Vic explode, Liberty is captured and take Colorado whitout blood bath. Best ending but... I'm not had the change to prove the nuclear armor and the nooka zoka.
realistically the patriarch is an angel compared to all the other cannibal and genocidal robot factions and a lot more feasible than Angela's naive ideas about utopia.
Sooo my game is still downloading so who are the good guys patrarch or angela
It depends on your view of good, I just beat the main story now. But i think :
Patriarch is the “good” option
The patriarch is evil, but a necessary evil. On the other hand, Angela is the "Rangers way" (back from Wasteland 2). Whatever you decide, there are no "good" or "bad" ending, which leaves you more or less confused. I've signed up with Angela, and decided to bring supplies to Arizona, saving my people. That being said, i've let Valor live, killed Victory because he was insane, and also killed Liberty because she was a Tyran.
From what i see, if you stick to the Patriarch side without bringing back all his children alive, he won't be sending supplies to Arizona and your people will die.
@@riyucooksolenar1932 is it even possable to take all of the children alive
thats a bruh moment yeah, I did it. Tho I don’t know if there is other ways, I did it by sending Reagan to the Machine Commune and killing all of the Gippers, Convincing Vic to join us, and Arresting Liberty instead of killing. I forgot if it required hardass or not to arrest liberty.
Neither of them are good. But Patriarch is the better choice
I got none of these endings, when I returned to HQ I wasn't greeted by either Angela or Patriarch's crew. The battle there already took place half the people were dead and I was free to roam around. Than at the final battle, Angela was my enemy and all the gangs plus Patriarch's army were my allies for the fight. Once I beat Angela I had a choice to kill Patriarch or not, but what's funny about all of this is that I wanted to side with Angela. I killed 2 out of the 3 children from Patriarch and I guess this was the result? I guess I wasn't really on anybody's side since I neither saved all 3 kids or killed all 3 kids, but than why was Angela my enemy and why were Patriarch's army my allies at the final battle? My ending made no sense at all but it was an awesome game, one of my favorites.
Maybe the devs didn't expect your outcome
There are several occasions in the game when Angela contacts you and if you didn't do what she said (kill the Patriarch's kids, free Cordite, KEEP Cordite with you, and few other I forgot) she will ask you why, and you have several possibilities to answer, something like "You made us look bad in front of the Patriarch" or " It isn't our mission" or even other random answers. I guess basically the game is trying to understand your point of view, if you are doing it for her and the Colorado people, for the Patriarch, or maybe you aren't sure because you are just following Arizona Rangers orders ? At some point if you have chosen conflicting answer and did not clearly took a side then you probably get your ending. To be honest for me it was very frustrating, because the Patriarch wasn't a good leader but he wasn't evil (not like his daughter and son), so I was ready for Angela to talk and convince me, but she basically say nothing, except that he is a Tyrant. But the crazy part is she didn't even mention who would replace him, and how, which alliance and how that would help Colorado and Arizona, nothing. I liked Angie very much from the OG so I gave her the benefice of the doubt, most of the game I followed what she said but not 100% (Agreed to free Cordite but refuse to ally with a slaver, got himself killed by Liberty at the end, she impaled him on a stick lol, also I agreed to take down Liberty and her gangs because they are dangerous but I said to Angela that I wasn't sure her strategy would help Colorado)
At the very end I accepted to side with her but i facepalmed when they said "everyone heard you on the radio and killed each other in the Rangers HQ" like WTF, who even talk about that on open channels lol
Guys my games bugged. It won't load the first part of this video where they walk in ranger hq it just sort of freezes? I play on Xbox one s
It did that for me too like 3 times. You just need to do a quick save let it crash a couple time and eventually the game will get the hint
Interesting- I sided with Angela but Pizepi left and Lucia stayed. with me
Well, for me both stayed. Jodie left and Kwo was arrested .
i got kinda a good sort of ending. thing i dont understand is why not send supplies back to arizona now that i have all the rangers here in colarado. like wtf
There's another ending in Steeltown... don't press the big red button haha
Is there an ending where you don't have to side with anyone? Just fuck shit up for shits and giggles?
*Patriarch
what would happen if you only kill vic will patriarch still deny sending supplies?
I killed Vic and Liberty, and the only to get the supplies were to hold Valor hostage using Hard Ass or maybe Barter (mine wasn’t high enough to try) and you leave with very bad term with the patriarch.
I guess if you kill his sons or any he won't keep the deal but you gonna convince him if you captured the others
Was playing through this game with a friend, about 1/3rd in, accidentally got the godfishers to kill the gippers including valor, is my chances with a good ending with the Patriarch ruined??
I ask cause i dont trust the Patriarch or his kids at all but I dont think Angela cares about the people of Colorado like she says, she’s just trying to exploit the situation for the benefits of the rangers and Arizona. I wanted to work towards a peaceful transition of power, or a more peaceful coup for a better leader to benefit both Arizona and Colorado but i think i fucked things up lol, i rushed into a few situations too fast.
Just finished my first play through. Sided with the Patriarch. Felt like the good ending. He was totally reasonable.
Bad writing with Lucia
Damm am I glad I didn’t chose Angela. My whole team would have left me
Best ending involves siding with Angela, it's just tricky to unlock, but also just because you saw people bail in this video doesn't mean they will in your playthrough. If you help Lucia track down her father and confront him after either killing or arresting Liberty she learns that he massacred the Dorsey family a while back and blames him and the Patriarch for her mother and brother's death. In my game she was so jaded she stuck around to take Buchanan down. Only Jodie and Kwon bailed but they weren't in my active party by then anyway.
But yeah, anyway this video is lying when it says "all endings".
@@UnvisibleINK That's weird, in my playthough I did Lucia's quest arresting her father and when I sided with Angela, she attacked my other characters and got shot down by Angela. Maybe because I made her kill her ex boyfriend instead of arresting him?
@@dificulttocure Maybe, there's a few things you gotta do to get the November Reigns ending. To get Lucia to wanna take down Buchanan you have to complete the Dorsey missions so that the leader (I think Nelius, but I could be getting the names mixed up) tells you how the Dorseys entered into the feud with Buchanan (Lucia's father is implicated in the story), then you have to rescue her father from Liberty and ask him about what Dorsey told you. Pretty sure if you do both of those things Lucia agrees to help take down Buchanan even if you don't get the green light from the Marshals.
If you can get a loved reputation from the Marshals, and the hundred families and speak to sheriff Daisy about taking down Buchanan then you get the green light to take him down with the help of his own army, on account of all the war crimes and tyranny and stuff.
It's not that hard to do, there's just a few key missions you have to complete and you don't have to screw over the refugees that much. You do have to arrest Mama Cotter but she won't stay mad at you forever. As long as you avoid doing things that upset Sheriff Daisy then you can get the November Reigns ending and achievement pretty easily.
،This game is for mobile phones, this is for laptops?
The voice acting for Lucia is kind of bad
yup. definitely noticeably worse than the others. but then, a LOT of the voices were done by professional voice actors with decades of work in games and anime.
Not really? Her emotional parts were totally fine. Not sure why you think it's bad.
I found the writing for wasteland 3 to be pretty bad.
So many mis-steps and bugs in this stupid game. Waste of my time and money.