It's a shame GM decided to pull out of Australia because we were making some bloody awesome cars here the likes we will never see again, Holden forever.........
@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907 They're amazing cars to drive, I had a Gen F GTS W507 at the time, exactly the same expect for 3 components(engine, suspension and tyres) and completely different beasts to drive. Wasn't the engine that changed it like I thought it would. Was the bespoke Supashock suspension setup and super sticky Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R tyres (first road car in the world to have them fitted as standard, was only available as an option on the McLaren P1 at the time).
Were not selling enough cars, small market in Australia , trying to compete with imports with no import tarrifs on them thanks to the labor governments of the late 80s early 90s removing import taxes on imports. And of course Holden and Ford Australia building big petrol eating cars and not focusing on more economic vehicles
HSV even though HSV was brought out by walkingshaw, officerly its walkingshaw, but by name sake its Holden Special Vehicles. :) Yet all the workers will still all Holden special vehicles and management not all were still HOLDEN, not walkingshaw, now any Original Holden Special Vehicles are worth a mint?
Not really mate as it's near completely built on Holden's assembly line in Adelaide and sent to HSV in Melbourne to have the wheels, catch can and carbon fibre intake, supashock suspension and badges fitted.
Body was made in Australia. Holden is a subsitary of GM - General motors. GM put LS engines in holdens , in australia from 1998 onwards . Hence why its Australian made
Great guy and great car but like the man said. " I can't drive it fast because we are on the road". Awesome car but just not practical to own unless you can afford to leave it in the shed. What's the point of 474kw's on our streets.😭 Highway patrol and mobile and fixed speed cameras everywhere. 🙄
OMG just imaging how hard the suspension is, John Bowe is bouncing around in that seat, yet its just a normal road conditions which we all drive on? To think that a 800K car now days if you want to buy 1 is so uncomfortable, IMHO, yet think of what you can buy with 300K which has more power and more options and faster as well & a lot more comfortable as well ,like AMG Audi or BMW?
It’s not built for comfort, if you want comfort, buy a merc as you said, I’m pretty sure not one person has brought a W1 for comfort what a dumb argument
Reason its stiff is it has Supashock racing suspension just like all V8 Supercars now use instead of the Gen 3 magnetic ride control shocks in standard GTSR's and all GTS's since 2013 which has tour, sports and track settings. Also there's only 275 of these in Australia and 25 in NZ. Where as the number of AMG E63s and BMW M5 built a year is about 25000-30000
Came for performance data proof - just got a lot of opinion/superlatives and hollow statements. Yes it’s an excellent car that looks good, sounds good and makes you feel good. Now if you’re the sensitive type stop reading now………Before we get all emotionally teary eyed about these cars - for comparison sake - don’t expect to gap a stock, untuned, Mk8 Golf R on the street from the🚦 These WERE muscle cars, now they are just very very expensive garage queens that have been overtaken by technology and are easily beaten by German hatchbacks. That’s why you’ll never see a GTSR or W1 (or GTS LSA) owner use a Dragy.
@@supraJZA80s - sadly these once muscle cars new competition are slightly faster four cylinder hatchbacks. It’s a crazy world. If that freaks you out, wait until electric cars are common…
@@MrTroytroy are you talking 0-100 times? 650hp is a serious amount of power and still comparable to some of the fastest of today's performance cars. 0-100 aside, there's not much to be excited about with a golf...
@@supraJZA80s I’m not saying a golf is exciting. It’s just faster that’s all. Just a couple of common bolt ons and a tune and it will be running 11’s on the street while the HSV will be wheel spinning it’s way to a solid 12 on the street. They don’t come into their own until 200km/h. Pretty much all S/C V8 cars on street tyres are 12sec cars. Dyno sheets are last decade stuff. Dragy times are what matters. LSA HSV’s are too heavy, have compromised traction, shit gearing and if manual, appalling acceleration compared to DCT or Auto cars. They were great cars for their time.
Amazing to see such a legendary driver being impressed by a car, it must be good.
A honest analysis coming from a Ford man. Us HSV owners gotta be happy with that 👍👌
I’ve always respected Bowey… regardless of the make he tells it how it is, if it’s awesome it’s awesome.. if it’s shit it’s shit
@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907 cool
Love my HSV GTS hence why my chan is based around it
@CurtisLSA yes mate watched a lot of your content 👍 i have a red vz r8 maloo great car 🤙
That car needs to do a Nürburgring lap
Shame There was Not a Car Company 2 take Over .But what a Car . i'm a Pom in UK. Have a HSV/VXR8 6.2 .440/bhp Cheers Guys
He maybe a ford man but I’ve always loved John Bowe… he calls a spade a spade.. regardless of the colour. A true car enthusiast
Ausome old style v8 rumble!
That thing sounds ferocious...
not like a golf gti lol its the sound that matters
Australian dream car, and the best!
I just want one!
Do it on the track Legend
Try the 580 kW upgrade!
Dude in the mustang at 2:17 was having a look haha
It's a shame GM decided to pull out of Australia because we were making some bloody awesome cars here the likes we will never see again, Holden forever.........
Legend car
Drove one. We couldnt do 0-100 in under 5 sec
I think this is the harp upgraded one for sure?
It only has a standard LS9 mate, hasn't been upgraded
@@geoffreytazprice5091would still be an awesome thing to drive!
@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907 They're amazing cars to drive, I had a Gen F GTS W507 at the time, exactly the same expect for 3 components(engine, suspension and tyres) and completely different beasts to drive. Wasn't the engine that changed it like I thought it would. Was the bespoke Supashock suspension setup and super sticky Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R tyres (first road car in the world to have them fitted as standard, was only available as an option on the McLaren P1 at the time).
Plenty of private roads or closed courses to give it a boot full JB! They are easy to find.😏
private roads are great lol
why did they stop makeing holdens i dont get it
Were not selling enough cars, small market in Australia , trying to compete with imports with no import tarrifs on them thanks to the labor governments of the late 80s early 90s removing import taxes on imports.
And of course Holden and Ford Australia building big petrol eating cars and not focusing on more economic vehicles
@@CurtisLSA Australia made the best cars bar none
Hence why there up as high as half a mill today 😫
The holy grail falcon upgrade matches this W1, and much cheaper.
let Bowe loose on a race track with it FCS!
Worth too much coin these days to take it on a track
HSV even though HSV was brought out by walkingshaw, officerly its walkingshaw, but by name sake its Holden Special Vehicles. :) Yet all the workers will still all Holden special vehicles and management not all were still HOLDEN, not walkingshaw, now any Original Holden Special Vehicles are worth a mint?
Not really mate as it's near completely built on Holden's assembly line in Adelaide and sent to HSV in Melbourne to have the wheels, catch can and carbon fibre intake, supashock suspension and badges fitted.
Nice
How can it be made in Australia if the engine is American?
They had a factory in australia where they build the actual car and put the motor and drive train in it.
Body was made in Australia. Holden is a subsitary of GM - General motors. GM put LS engines in holdens , in australia from 1998 onwards .
Hence why its Australian made
🤬good on you GM🖕 you destroyed Holden.
Great guy and great car but like the man said. " I can't drive it fast because we are on the road".
Awesome car but just not practical to own unless you can afford to leave it in the shed. What's the point of 474kw's on our streets.😭
Highway patrol and mobile and fixed speed cameras everywhere. 🙄
The point is that you own a piece of Australian motoring history. You’d have to be a few beers short of a 6 pack to use it as a daily driver
OMG just imaging how hard the suspension is, John Bowe is bouncing around in that seat, yet its just a normal road conditions which we all drive on? To think that a 800K car now days if you want to buy 1 is so uncomfortable, IMHO, yet think of what you can buy with 300K which has more power and more options and faster as well & a lot more comfortable as well ,like AMG Audi or BMW?
Mate😂😂😂 there’s fuck all of these things getting around hence the price tag on them. Ya goose
It’s not built for comfort, if you want comfort, buy a merc as you said, I’m pretty sure not one person has brought a W1 for comfort what a dumb argument
Do you know how much it went for?
Reason its stiff is it has Supashock racing suspension just like all V8 Supercars now use instead of the Gen 3 magnetic ride control shocks in standard GTSR's and all GTS's since 2013 which has tour, sports and track settings. Also there's only 275 of these in Australia and 25 in NZ. Where as the number of AMG E63s and BMW M5 built a year is about 25000-30000
Sure it’s got grunt but I just don’t see these plastic cars becoming classics like the much earlier Holden’s!
Came for performance data proof - just got a lot of opinion/superlatives and hollow statements. Yes it’s an excellent car that looks good, sounds good and makes you feel good. Now if you’re the sensitive type stop reading now………Before we get all emotionally teary eyed about these cars - for comparison sake - don’t expect to gap a stock, untuned, Mk8 Golf R on the street from the🚦 These WERE muscle cars, now they are just very very expensive garage queens that have been overtaken by technology and are easily beaten by German hatchbacks. That’s why you’ll never see a GTSR or W1 (or GTS LSA) owner use a Dragy.
You're comparing this with a Golf R 🤦♂️
@@supraJZA80s - sadly these once muscle cars new competition are slightly faster four cylinder hatchbacks. It’s a crazy world. If that freaks you out, wait until electric cars are common…
@@MrTroytroy are you talking 0-100 times? 650hp is a serious amount of power and still comparable to some of the fastest of today's performance cars. 0-100 aside, there's not much to be excited about with a golf...
@@supraJZA80s I’m not saying a golf is exciting. It’s just faster that’s all. Just a couple of common bolt ons and a tune and it will be running 11’s on the street while the HSV will be wheel spinning it’s way to a solid 12 on the street. They don’t come into their own until 200km/h. Pretty much all S/C V8 cars on street tyres are 12sec cars. Dyno sheets are last decade stuff. Dragy times are what matters. LSA HSV’s are too heavy, have compromised traction, shit gearing and if manual, appalling acceleration compared to DCT or Auto cars. They were great cars for their time.
@@MrTroytroy I understand where you're coming from. But I prefer to look at it as smiles per gallon instead.
Horrible colour Flu Cough Mucus Green
I still wouldn’t say no…!
So you'd prefer a baby spew yellow of a 4 cylinder hyundai would you lol
@@CurtisLSA I drive a cammed VY SS champ didn't know i wasn't allowed to dislike a colour you communist.
@@CurtisLSA Naaaa Baby poo yellow is much nicer Champ
@@AndrewMitchell001 no worries champ
Nice American muscle