He runs at 30 mph that's not at all impressive compared to a Spartan. Also Captain America has had broken bones before so would likely suffer broken bones in either Gen1 or Gen 3 MJOLNIR armor. He could however wear Gen 2 armor tailored to him. Which Gen 2 armor is generally tailored to the individual.
@@John2r1 you're talking comics he is talking MCU because that's what the video is talking about. Which I haven't read the comics but I've seen the animations that get it close to the comics, and he is not as powerful in combat in the marvel animations, his strength really plays towards being a good commander in those.
@alexanderglass2057 The comic version was actually stronger than the MCU movies version. Also, the MCU version doesn't explain how the serium works in the first place. Another point with the MCU is that Captain America struggles to fight Tony, aka Ironman. Who is just a human in an exoskeleton made of titanium. Master Chief unarmed would rip Tony apart as would any other Spartan in the time it takes Tony to blink. And that's not a joke. Spartans are described in the lore as being a blur of slashing motion when in combat. " On the top of the bunker, John was a blur of slashing motions. A second guard’s exosuit erupted in a fountain of hydraulic fluid and then collapsed under the armor’s weight. The last guard on the bunker turned to fire at John. Halsey gripped the edge of her chair. “He’s at point-blank range! Even stun rounds can kill at that distance!” As the guard’s gun fired, John sidestepped. The stun rounds slashed through the air, a clean miss. John grabbed the weapon’s armature - twisted - and with a screech of stressed metal, wrenched it free of the exoskeleton. He fired directly into the man’s chest and sent him tumbling off the bunker. The remaining quartet of perimeter guards turned and sprayed the area with suppression fire. A heartbeat later, the lights went out. Mendez cursed and keyed the mike. “Backups. Hit the backup lights now!” A dozen amber floods flickered to life. Not a Spartan was in sight, but the nine trainers were either unconscious or lay immobile in inert battle armor. The red flag was gone." - Halo: The Fall of Reach by Eric Nylund, pp 88-94. That was at age 14 just after augmentation. Those trainers were in Mark 1 exoskeletons capable of running at thirty-two KPH, lift two tons, and have a thirty-millimeter minigun mounted on self-targeting armatures with the latest motion sensors and IR scopes. And needless to say, their armor is quite impervious to standard light weapons. It would have taken two or three platoons of conventional Marines to take that bunker. Spartan 2s at age 14 took it within minutes of starting their attack. There were a total of 9 guards in power armor with 30 mm miniguns. So picture Tony's war machine suits minigun mounted on a more heavily armored exoskeleton. And the Spartans were unarmored and unarmed. So in either case Captain America would have major issues using either Gen 1 or Gen 3 MJOLNIR without extensive augmentation that the serium simply couldn't provide. However with MJOLNIR Gen 2 the armors systems can be calibrated to suit his physiology. Essentially, Captain America would be physically an equal to a Spartan 4 in some regards. What is said about the serium in the MCU is that the Super-Soldier Serum was developed during World War II as a top-secret experiment by Dr. Abraham Erskine. The serum was designed to enhance a person's physical and mental attributes to their peak potential. Peak potential means the peak of their human potential. An absolute peak human in theory can lift 1.5 tons. However in the MCU Captain America runs 26 mph comfortably and sustainably. The 'Fastest Man Alive', Usain Bolt, clocks in at around 28 mph for his 100 meter sprint. Sprinting, Steve could easily surpass 40 mph. According to official Marvel Database, Captain America's full limits of strength is lifting up to 1,200 lbs with maximum effort. So there's your physical stats Captain America can sprint 40 plus mph and lift 1,200lbs according to the MCU. Compare that to a Spartan who can run at 60 plus mph and easily lift over 3 tons unarmored. And you start to understand why MJOLNIR Gen 1 or Gen3 which use the same movement system, would rip Captain America apart. However Gen 2 armor was made for Spartan 4s which unarmored are closer to Captain America's stats.
it's a interesting theory; the Spartans were augmented to have greater COMBAT ability but the super soldier serum enhances EVERY aspect of a human body. likely if a Spartan took the serum it would be like a fine tuning of the existing augmentations to be more compatible to individual Spartans biology.
The super soldier serum makes good great and bad worse, so it may make Chief mentally unstable because Chief never got a healthy upbringing that instilled him with good morals like Steve. Chief was molded into a weapon of the UNSC so it's possible he would become even more robotic and cold hearted in his thinking.
Idk man,out of armor both chief and mcu steve seem to be equal,chief novel feats have nothing that steve hasn’t done,in armor then yes chief or even an average spartan II is much faster and stronger than steve roger which will put them equal to his comic book counterparts
Cap is said to be "peak human" after receiving the super soldier serum and the vita ray treatment. Yet he consistently performs feats of strength, agility and endurance that are clearly superhuman, just as the Spartans have done over the course of the franchise. Cap in Powered Armor would be a sight to see. Excellent video, keep it up.
He's described as the peak of human potential with peak human potential. It's the potential part where they get you, potential could could mean any level of strenght. It's purposely described vague so you dont think too much about it. But overall cap seems in the same strenght, durability and speed range as c'thalla is outside his armor
That's comic Captain America. In the MCU, Captain America _is_ superhuman, hence the term, "supersoldier". If he were peak human, he wouldn't be holding back an entire helicopter.
Peak human could have varying descriptions, peak human could be what an evolved/advanced human could be when the human body and mind are tuned to maximum potential, or it could just be peak all round athlete like how Batman is often described. We are capable of making some rather strong individuals right now, but there would detrimental side effects, look at individuals who pump steroids making themselves really strong but slow/lumbering and putting a massive strain on things like their hearts, they often die of heart failure quite young. Peak human could just means all the pluses without any of the detrimental side effects.
Due to Cap's unique augmentations it'd be interesting to see what kind of armor he'd wear. On the one hand his insane natural speed could be improved with specialized armor making him a complete speed demon. On the other hand, his reduced healing ability may cause him to need additional protection compared to the average spartan. Also because of his below average vision for a spartan he may get issued some form of spartan grade "glasses" integrated into his helmet and that sounds hilarious.
At a bare minimum, Cap would fit in with the Spartan IV's. He fits a lot of the criteria for the IV's. The Gen II Mjolnir armor would help compensate for lower augmentations.
Don’t forget: Cap’s enhancements are 500 years older than Spartans’… and he wasn’t chosen due to genetic superiority; on the contrary, he was inferior in a physical and, maybe, even genetic sense, making the Super Soldier serum even more impressive
yes but halo is based on somewhat possible science while cap is stupid comic book none sense, they say he at peak human but does things that are straight impossible even with human peak power.
By that 'logic', the Federation from Star Trek would scale below that UNSC because they're 'only' from the 22nd and 23rd century even they scale above the UNSC in basically every respect except for travel speed at this point.
I'd honestly be curious to see what additional augmentations Steve Rogers would need to shore up the differences between him and the spartan 2s. It seems he more than meets the musculoskeletal requirements, but since he lacks the neural lace and many of the less physically impressive sensory augmentations, I'd guess he'd need to start with some pretty invasive surgeries which his enhanced physiology would allow him to survive with impunity. Additionally, I'd be very interested in seeing Halsey's reaction to Steve being dumped in the Halo universe and being inducted into the spartan program. In the MCU, we have proof that using Steve's blood, the US was able to reverse engineer the original supersoldier serum, so I have no doubt that Halsey would be able to replicate this feat. How would the introduction of novel chemical augmentation meeting or exceeding many of the physical requirements of the Spartan 2s affect the Spartan 4 and maybe even Spartan 5 programs going forward?
@@JoseRodriguez-eu5ez No. He'd be WAY MORE than ANY Spartan program in both the lower price tag and lower logistical footprint AND functionality. ANY Spartan programs are the ones lacking 'a few extra parts' compared to even early, baseline, Ironman armors.
The issue is would Halsey have any idea what the hell Vita Rays are? That's the one half of the super soldier program that has yet to be rediscovered. She would have the formula but once Steve tells her about Vita rays and how they work would she be able to recreate them?
Great video once again, really appreciate the Installation 00 approach being taken to these topics. Cap's drop from a Quinjet into the ocean sans parachute from an indeterminate height at the beginning of The Winter Soldier could yield some interesting results regarding bone and connective tissue strength.
@@Gartos_CZaugmentations only cover certain aspects of their biology and often they are biochemichal not genetic while super soldier serum augments all the cells in the body on a genetic level so yeah they would stack
@@commentsectionman6231monsters I tell you utter monsters also hey there been a discussion about combining the aspects of nano suit and mjolnir in space battles just search this title along with adding space battles Merging the Nanosuit 2 & MJOLNIR armor.
I always thought Cap was 2-3 times more powerful than a regular human in peak physical condition. I didn't realize just HOW powerful he really is. Makes me enjoy him even more honestly.
Comics Cap is actually considered the peak of human physicality without being superhuman at this point. The serum made him superhuman originally, but he eventually regressed to where he is now. Example is he can press 900 lbs over his head. It's considered superhuman once you go over 1000. But putting 900 over your head means you can just lift much more.
It really wouldn’t be much of a difference. The S-IVs are a lot weaker than the S-IIs and S-IIIs. It’s really their armor that allows them to even keep up with the other 2, better Spartans
Man, now I miss that old first person Avengers game that was being made ages ago. Imagine tossing a shield around at the Covenant and Banished! And it bounces from one to the other like they’re pinball bumpers!
Now I'm imagining Steve Rogers wearing MJOLNIR while wielding _Mjolnir._ Yeah, I agree with the results of the video that Captain America could be a Spartan.
Aside from the Cap is my favorite MCU character of old comics through modern movies the outcome of your comparison wasn't a surprise. I love that you did this as Steve has always ranked in my eyes with John or the Spartans. In essence not just the original super soldier but truly a Spartan. No I dont want to see a crossover lol. This was however exceptionally well done as I would expect from you. Great job, now time for a sweet William and a glass of Glen.
I always thought caps super soldier serum resembled the Spartan 3s augmentations more, it’s nice to you explore these topics I only ever thought about 😂
I've always thought of MC and Cap as being very similarly built characters with their augmentations, capabilities, and where they act as being inspirational super soldiers. Seeing an actual comparison is pretty cool
Based on how chief is now, they're definitely pretty similar. Remember almost everything in here was when the spartan IIs were 14. Later in CE chief is flipping a 3 ton warthog with seemingly one hand
@@proper7439 cap isnt even close to that strong, he can canonically lift 1,200 pounds at max effort. chief could do that outside of his armor and more easily.
I thoroughly enjoyed this video and would absolutely love to see more like it. Though I honestly have no idea who you might compare. On a bit of a side note, it would be very interesting to see a video in which you design a super soldier and armor.
You have posed interesting comparisons with very thought out conclusions. Very well done. Iron Man and Master Chief have their armor, both are impressive. But the comparison I’m interested in is the controlling AI Jarvis and Cortana.
Poorly. There. Saves you a video. Ironman armor in the MCU starts off significantly better than Spartan armor and only get worse to the point that Ironman by Infinity War and Endgame himself could have turned the tide of Reach, at least until the covvie navy started glassing.
@@VunderGuy I realize that, but you could have said the same thing about Captain America. I went into this video knowing for sure he could be a spartan but it was still very interesting to see him break everything down and compare it. That’s the fun of these videos.
@@tylerp4130 Well let's see the iron man suits states. It can fly, is extremely maneuverable, can tank tank (lol) shells for days, and has enough built in fire power to level a city block.
Arguably, the MCU super serum is superior to the Spartan II augments. It out performs Halsey's work is several areas, but most importantly, it's minimally invasive. We don't have any data on how it would work for people who aren't Steve Rogers, but, if he isn't an anomaly, it's conceivable that the serum would produce a higher rate of success than the Halsey method. That also makes mass production far easier. This seems more in the direction of Forerunner Gene mods like we see in the Forerunner books than the augments we see in the game's.
@@voomvoom4522 Definitely not. Forerunner Combat Skins are so far beyond anything that exists in Marvel. Stark's most advanced armor in or out of comics couldn't scratch real Forerunner equipment.
@@bable6314 buddy, Iron Man's most advanced suits were capable of taking down universe ending GODS, meanwhile, the Diadact, who presumably had the best suit that the forerunners had available, had his suit pierced by a regular COMBAT KNIFE.
It kinda feels like the spartens are already super soldiers and arnt they about as strong as cap, they also honestly make more sense than cap does as far as i can see. They are far more based in possible future science with a small mix of outlandish sci fi. Its one of the reasons spartens are so cool to me, because we may one day have real life spartens.
He comparing 14 years old spartans to cap, when they are adult they outclass him by a lot even out of armor, hell chief squatted a worthog size granite boulder while having a fist size hole in one of his leg.
I've always felt that MCU Captain + Iron Man armor = Master Chief/SPARTAN-IIs. Glad to know my gut feeling on this has some basis in qualitative facts and speculation. I've thought about this kind of stuff for years, always found it interesting that SPARTAN-IIs cover cybernetic augments, MCU Cap covers chemical augments via SSS, and say the Augments like Khan or Julian Bashir from Star Trek cover genetic augments. If you combine all those into a single regimen...that would be something terrifying...
From a meta point of view Captain America is one of the many inspirations for the Spartan Program. So Captain America can be considered a proto-spartan. But then again placing them in the same universe hardly works because if humanity had achieved a Super Soldier during WWII the Spartan program would have been far beyond anything we can even begin to imagine by the 26th century.
@@Gat720Dua ANY version of a Spider-Man would walk over the Spartans, much as I love them. The Spiders are faster, stronger, and more perceptive (except Miguel) than the Spartans, and there are indicators that they heal faster than normal humans as well, though how fast is debatable.
@@tmac2744 What gives Spider-Man the advantage over most characters isn’t the speed, strength, intelligence it’s he’s Spider sense if you take that one ability away from him he gets his ass handed in most fights.
John: So why is there a Spartan that looks like a bat and another Spartan who has a shield and sports the colors of the American flag? Captian America and Batman: 😐 Cortana: They're your new partners 😃
Imagining Steve Rogers in a combat scenario against the covenant is very interesting. I wonder how well his shield is at blocking plasma, I assume his original vibranium shield, would be capable, and given his overall combat prowess using it, he may very well be able to make use of banking the shield off objects, contributing to multiple KIAs in a single throw. Might even be capable of piercing Elite shields and killing them in the process.
I’d love to see if Samus Aran from the Metroid franchise could be a Spartan. Some of her specifics might require a bit of detective work, but hey, she’s definitely one of the other iconic armored one-person-army protagonist from videogames.
Can I get a video on the potential changes to the hand? Or mjolnir gauntlet breakdown? I always find it interesting how super strength isn’t shattering your hand with each punch. Lots of tiny bones, not great for compression but good at grabbing things.
You should do a follow-up video diving into exactly how well he could perform based on his Baseline stats if he also went under the Spartan augmentation in addition to his base super soldier abilities. Also how effective would his vibranium Shield be in combat in the Halo Universe and potentially how powerful would his armor be if it was made out of vibranium
cap shield will cut through the mjonir armor outershell like a knife through butter though,we saw him multiple time dismembering opponent with just as strong if not stronger defense than a spartan armor such as ultron and his drone,all of them are made from the same material as iron man armor,the mjonir best feats without it shield it stopping pretty much all ballistic projectile from small arm weapon to dmr but high velocity round such as the anti material round of the sniper rife just shred right through it with shield the mjonir can take hit that vaporized other being such as that of the setinel and forerunner monitor and the armor shell is made out of a modified titanium alloy (yes i know johnson wasn't vaporized but probably because spark didnt want to kill him) so i would say the shield will be a very very effective against spartan armor but with a spartan in it probably not so much because bucky can easily catch cap shield so i dont think it would be a problem for most spartan to counter it as long as they don't get hit in the head
It definitely was what I was expecting special with an MCU type of Captain America. I’m surprised you didn’t mention anything about my previous post that scene, and also falcon and the Winter soldier since their primary opponents were super soldiers. As for another character, I kind of have to agree with the others. Black Panther would be a good choice since so we probably be sticking with the MCU versus comic book although maybe trying to compile data on Bucky Barnes wouldn’t be a bad idea as a winter soldier
Imagine Cap and MC working together in the battlefield. Just thinking about it gives me chills. They can both adapt their styles to support each other and watching their 6s while giving punishments to their opponents.
what I would very much like to see is if Green Arrow, the Punisher, or the Republic Commandos would make for good Spartan program candidates, &which ones they would best fit in with I really most sincerely hope you read this, Installation00
Green Arrow (Oliver Queen), could be either an Orion candidate, or a Spartan IV. He could even have been one of the baselines that the Orion's and II's were measured against, physically and genetically, if he predates the program. If later, his acquired skills would make him a valuable asset to any Spartan IV team, though his mouthiness and lack of respect for a chain of command would probably prevent him from being considered for either program. In short, I would think he would likely be a proto-Orion Candidate. The Punisher is DEFINITELY a Spartan IV, based on his background. While a case could be made for him being an Orion, similar to the one above for Green Arrow, his combat background would fit better with the IVs. In fact, a Punisher aimed at the Covenant and/or forces that are working to attack humanity would be an interesting idea. Getting him going would be no problem. Getting him to STOP would be. As for the Republic Commandos, it would entirely depend on which time frame you are pulling from. The Clone trooper versions would best fit in with the Spartan IIs. The Commandos seen during Episodes IV-VI probably fit better with the IIIs or IVs, and the Commandos post Endor MIGHT fit the Spartan IV category. Just because, Mandalorians would likely fall in the Orion category of Spartans, especially with Jango Fett being the final genetic selection for creating the Clones.
@@tmac2744 RC from the Clone Wars would need additional augmentations, but their genetics are likely already superior to the average S-II candidate. They COULD be Spartans, but they can't just jump in MJOLNIR and call it a day like Captain America could.
In an AU where the MCU and Halo is in the same universe, a Spartan accidentally traveling to either the 1940s 0r 2010s is gonna have a serious mind fuck when they see a literal grandpa doing shit with pure muscle... when it still takes their entire armor to do the same thing.
I remember having a conversation along these lines after the 1st or second Captain America Movie. It's best that you stuck to MCU Cap, since the comic version's abilities had some...shenanigans depending on who wrote him.
The one aspect of Steve that I think would counter certain aspects is that it enhances specific thought processes too. Good becomes great, bad becomes worse. So Steve wouldn't have any issues following orders until it clashes with his ideology.
So he technically has a slower healing factor but it doesn't seem to be that relevant as the beating he took from Thanos seemed to be something he could walk off in a few moments. Dude was shot through his stomach twice and was lifting some insane weight. To be able to engage your core that much after it was shot twice suggests a higher healing factor or just some insane pain tolerance/endurance.
Both are pretty well matched, but chief can react faster, is stronger, faster, likely more durable, has a built in iron halo (energy shield), and can use a spartan laser, arc-920, spnkr, 14mm sniper rifle, or steal covenant plasma weaponry
@@charles-vi7qb Well, keep in mind the banging arsenal the grimdark boyscouts are packing. Plasma weapons that are similar to and in some cases more powerful than Halo plasma weapons, pysker powers, bolters, chainswords (not really that powerful, but definitely cool) and other flavors or bolters like their bolter lmg (can’t remember the name) storm bolter, bolt pistol, and I think a bolt sniper rifle? Oh also they have melts weapons which are a absolutely nuts. But the grimdark boyscouts, while not as fast, lithe, or even as strong as Chief (only by a small amout) are crazy durable. Like, why would anyone make someone able to withstand that level of punishment? They can have their legs ripped off and the entrails dangling out and keep fighting. Also they can lose limbs and be unphased.
@@ThatOneAudioTeam well yeah, of course they have weapons that can kill spartans, though bolters would be limited in their effectiveness due to mjolnir’s tailored durability towards ballistic attacks, on both the titanium plating and the energy shielding. Honestly in terms of ability to eat damage unfazed, I’d say master chief having a good portion of his leg melted through, and continuing to fight at nearly 99% efficiency after engaging movement assist is a pretty good example of such. And while unsc weaponry is limited in what could be used against space marines, between handheld rail guns, a dollar store lascannon, glorified world II anti tank rifle fired at far higher velocities, and the literal marathon rocket launcher, he does have a good chance at beating a space marine, or punching it to death at least
You forgot some thing the multi story drop the Captain America made in count America, the Winter soldier from the top floor, elevator to the ground level, even with the shield being made if I bring him yeah there was still some transfer of force, and it took some thing out of them, but he got up and ran off so I would definitely say yeah no positive bone reinforcement probably joint reinforcement. You might want to check that footage again.
I would like to point out in terms of bone density that there is a bit of inconsistency within the MCU pertaining to the super soldier serum giving enhanced bone density. John Walker who was the second captain America actually had his left arm snapped relatively easily compared to the feats that Steve Roger performed. It is said that the serum Walker took was an even more enhanced version that Steve took which made Walker stronger, faster, and more durable than Rogers was. Thankfully you only looked at Steve’s feats rather than Walker’s but it still goes to show that the MCU is inconsistent with its power scaling for durability and strength of super soldier serum users
Is not inconsistent Steve Rogers received the original serum of Eriksen while walker and others received copies that aren’t as good and complete as the original one
I think it's safe to say that Cap, starting from an extremely deficient state before his transformation, versus the Spartan candidates being handpicked for their superior potential to others before augmentation, is impressive in and of itself. The possibly horrifying idea is giving a Spartan the Super Soldier Serum after their initial augmentation; I think that that would require a while new advanced class of Mjönir Armour. Also, missed detail is that Cap's overall mental facilities and senses have been greatly increased, it's never specified by how much, but obviously enough that he never needs tech assist and easily calculated angles on the fly.
Great video always thought cap fit the deception of a Spartan 3 almost to a T. Got a video idea for you. Spartan time v.s the ''zone'' athlete's and gamers all know. I record my games a lot and there will be times for example someone is thrusting straight at me and i melee them in the visor. when i review the footage its not exactly clear what happened but i remain positive i punched the other guy in the visor. Granted i play on a 240hrtz panel but only record at 60. I think it would be cool to see a video comparing the two to give a better understanding of what its like to be a Spartan.
Because Captain America is already strong enough without armor to rip a car door from its car (in Captain America: The First Avenger, right after he gets augmented and is chasing a hydra terrorist through the streets), as well as kick a truck into an enemy hostile on the opposite side (somewhere around the beginning of Captain America: Civil War), he either is already strong enough to wear MJOLNIR armor without being crushed by its compressing effect, and/or already is stronger than an armorless Halo spartan. A spartan can bench press around 870 to 1,160 lbs without armor on as it says they can carry four times their own weight. Master Chief is 290 lbs without the armor on, so you can do the math from that as to how much he could lift without wearing armor. WITH armor though, it’s 870/1,160 lbs times five in GEN 1 MJOLNIR armor (not sure what it is with GEN 2, and what it is with the new GEN 3). But anyways, 870 to 1,160 lbs is pretty strong, but I don’t know if that’s strong enough to rip a car door off (also, real life Patrik Baboumian is so strong that he can bench press 1,350 lbs, which is insane, and if Patrik isn’t the strongest man in the world then I don’t know how much the strongest man in the world could bench press. Does this mean Baboumian could withstand the compression effect of the MJOLNIR armor? If his muscles are this strong then his bones must be too, or else his bones would already be causing too much stress and crushing on his bones). I’m not sure if this about the Spartans is correct, but this information is what I remember learning when I looked it all up.
great video man, I might have a suggestion for another one of these videos, Could Arkham batman be a spartan, In my personal opinion I think yes he can but it would be interesting to see you make a video on it. thanks for reading my comment
I hope the ONI goon are smart enough to know that cap has strict morals keep him far far away from anything that smells shady or he might just overthrow the government. While the war is ongoing I don’t think they’d have to much issue with him as there are more pressing priorities but post war is a little more questionable. He’s definitely go awol if he thought that oni was being too shady.
-Suit of power armor -Big and green -Augmented super-soldier -Wields MJOLNIR -Taken at a young age by a shadowy intelligence agency -Skilled at aiming long-range weapons A SPARTAN-II is all six original Avengers in one.
I always assumed the master chief was physically superior to captain America but I guess I didn’t look enough into it. I think the comic version is “peak human” while the MCU version is a super soldier. But peak human always means super human in comic books.
So basically, Captain America was effectively a short yet very fast Spartan with poorer eye sight and slower healing capabilities roughly 600 years before the events of Halo CE. That's pretty impressive.
This is more or less what I expected imagine hybridizing the processes though I may be misremembering I'm fairly certain kelly 087 can do 65 mph but that's in armor Edit: right number wrong unit of measurement kph not mph
Given there are versions of Captain America with a healing factor on par with wolverine and strength on par with hulk, it was probably wise to restrict your consideration to MCU Captain America.
Captain America as a spartan would be right up there with Masters Chief! Only he would probably be focused on preserving human life than going for the mission objective that might sacrifice more human lives. If Chief is the soul of the Halo franchise, Cap would be the heart of it.
I had no doubts that Cap would be Spartan material, indeed one of the best especially compared to Mark 3s and 4s who were adults when augmented My primary concern was the cybernetic enhancements, whether Cap even needed them and how much stronger he would be with the whole Spartan package, A.I companion included....... Who would be Cap's A.I, Stark or Carter
@@stormichow5325 in what universe? they are about as fast, have about the same reaction speed, but spartan are way stronger and resistant then cap is, all the numbers in this vid are from just after the augmentation when they are 14.
@@angerskarin9222 No. Wolverine tanked hits from Thor, Juggernaut and Hulk. Those 3 characters alone are more powerful than the precursors would ever be. Black Panther can survive machine gun fire, fought on Par with blade, Luke cage and hulk as well.
You know I think this is a cool idea, seeing if other people from other franchises could be a spartan. Another video could be V or David Martines from Cyberpunk, would be interesting too since they use cybernetic augmentations rather than chemical or biological augmentations.
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Given his smaller size, unparalleled speed and theoretically higher reaction time, he'd make a damn good head hunter
He runs at 30 mph that's not at all impressive compared to a Spartan.
Also Captain America has had broken bones before so would likely suffer broken bones in either Gen1 or Gen 3 MJOLNIR armor.
He could however wear Gen 2 armor tailored to him. Which Gen 2 armor is generally tailored to the individual.
@@John2r1 Thought the video said he ran at near 60 mph
@@John2r1 you're talking comics he is talking MCU because that's what the video is talking about. Which I haven't read the comics but I've seen the animations that get it close to the comics, and he is not as powerful in combat in the marvel animations, his strength really plays towards being a good commander in those.
@alexanderglass2057 The comic version was actually stronger than the MCU movies version.
Also, the MCU version doesn't explain how the serium works in the first place.
Another point with the MCU is that Captain America struggles to fight Tony, aka Ironman. Who is just a human in an exoskeleton made of titanium.
Master Chief unarmed would rip Tony apart as would any other Spartan in the time it takes Tony to blink.
And that's not a joke. Spartans are described in the lore as being a blur of slashing motion when in combat.
" On the top of the bunker, John was a blur of slashing motions. A second guard’s exosuit erupted in a fountain of hydraulic fluid and then collapsed under the armor’s weight.
The last guard on the bunker turned to fire at John. Halsey gripped the edge of her chair. “He’s at point-blank range! Even stun rounds can kill at that distance!”
As the guard’s gun fired, John sidestepped. The stun rounds slashed through the air, a clean miss. John grabbed the weapon’s armature - twisted - and with a screech of stressed metal, wrenched it free of the exoskeleton. He fired directly into the man’s chest and sent him tumbling off the bunker. The remaining quartet of perimeter guards turned and sprayed the area with suppression fire.
A heartbeat later, the lights went out.
Mendez cursed and keyed the mike. “Backups. Hit the backup lights now!”
A dozen amber floods flickered to life.
Not a Spartan was in sight, but the nine trainers were either unconscious or lay immobile in inert battle armor.
The red flag was gone." - Halo: The Fall of Reach by Eric Nylund, pp 88-94.
That was at age 14 just after augmentation. Those trainers were in Mark 1 exoskeletons capable of running at thirty-two KPH, lift two tons, and have a thirty-millimeter minigun mounted on self-targeting armatures with the latest motion sensors and IR scopes. And needless to say, their armor is quite impervious to standard light weapons. It would have taken two or three platoons of conventional Marines to take that bunker.
Spartan 2s at age 14 took it within minutes of starting their attack.
There were a total of 9 guards in power armor with 30 mm miniguns.
So picture Tony's war machine suits minigun mounted on a more heavily armored exoskeleton. And the Spartans were unarmored and unarmed.
So in either case Captain America would have major issues using either Gen 1 or Gen 3 MJOLNIR without extensive augmentation that the serium simply couldn't provide. However with MJOLNIR Gen 2 the armors systems can be calibrated to suit his physiology.
Essentially, Captain America would be physically an equal to a Spartan 4 in some regards.
What is said about the serium in the MCU is that the Super-Soldier Serum was developed during World War II as a top-secret experiment by Dr. Abraham Erskine. The serum was designed to enhance a person's physical and mental attributes to their peak potential.
Peak potential means the peak of their human potential.
An absolute peak human in theory can lift 1.5 tons.
However in the MCU Captain America runs 26 mph comfortably and sustainably. The 'Fastest Man Alive', Usain Bolt, clocks in at around 28 mph for his 100 meter sprint. Sprinting, Steve could easily surpass 40 mph.
According to official Marvel Database, Captain America's full limits of strength is lifting up to 1,200 lbs with maximum effort.
So there's your physical stats Captain America can sprint 40 plus mph and lift 1,200lbs according to the MCU.
Compare that to a Spartan who can run at 60 plus mph and easily lift over 3 tons unarmored. And you start to understand why MJOLNIR Gen 1 or Gen3 which use the same movement system, would rip Captain America apart. However Gen 2 armor was made for Spartan 4s which unarmored are closer to Captain America's stats.
@@John2r1 in the video he said the Captain could move at 60 mph
If you want more MCU characters for a future video then Black Panther and the Winter Soldier are perfect candidates.
I thought the same thing but I was thinking he’d probably come to the same conclusion considering they’ve all been shown to be pretty evenly matched
I would propose the green goblin as well
@@alexanderdesocio8081”marvel Spartan-3”, you mean?
Wolverine would be perfect!! The hulk would be hilarious….
and he could contact wernissage for their spartan armor
it's a interesting theory; the Spartans were augmented to have greater COMBAT ability but the super soldier serum enhances EVERY aspect of a human body.
likely if a Spartan took the serum it would be like a fine tuning of the existing augmentations to be more compatible to individual Spartans biology.
The super soldier serum makes good great and bad worse, so it may make Chief mentally unstable because Chief never got a healthy upbringing that instilled him with good morals like Steve. Chief was molded into a weapon of the UNSC so it's possible he would become even more robotic and cold hearted in his thinking.
@@jollygoodfellow3957 That's the MCU version of super soldier Serum. The comic book version doesn't have that limitation.
Idk man,out of armor both chief and mcu steve seem to be equal,chief novel feats have nothing that steve hasn’t done,in armor then yes chief or even an average spartan II is much faster and stronger than steve roger which will put them equal to his comic book counterparts
@@decade9026If you've listen to the Video he already surpassed some Spartan IIs parameters in Armor.
Cap is said to be "peak human" after receiving the super soldier serum and the vita ray treatment. Yet he consistently performs feats of strength, agility and endurance that are clearly superhuman, just as the Spartans have done over the course of the franchise. Cap in Powered Armor would be a sight to see. Excellent video, keep it up.
I don’t think holding a helicopter in place and jump like 5-8m into the air count as peak human 🗿
He's described as the peak of human potential with peak human potential.
It's the potential part where they get you, potential could could mean any level of strenght.
It's purposely described vague so you dont think too much about it.
But overall cap seems in the same strenght, durability and speed range as c'thalla is outside his armor
Well, peak human in marvel is basically being able to lift over 1000lbs and lift an elevator.
That's comic Captain America. In the MCU, Captain America _is_ superhuman, hence the term, "supersoldier". If he were peak human, he wouldn't be holding back an entire helicopter.
Peak human could have varying descriptions, peak human could be what an evolved/advanced human could be when the human body and mind are tuned to maximum potential, or it could just be peak all round athlete like how Batman is often described. We are capable of making some rather strong individuals right now, but there would detrimental side effects, look at individuals who pump steroids making themselves really strong but slow/lumbering and putting a massive strain on things like their hearts, they often die of heart failure quite young. Peak human could just means all the pluses without any of the detrimental side effects.
Due to Cap's unique augmentations it'd be interesting to see what kind of armor he'd wear. On the one hand his insane natural speed could be improved with specialized armor making him a complete speed demon. On the other hand, his reduced healing ability may cause him to need additional protection compared to the average spartan.
Also because of his below average vision for a spartan he may get issued some form of spartan grade "glasses" integrated into his helmet and that sounds hilarious.
At a bare minimum, Cap would fit in with the Spartan IV's. He fits a lot of the criteria for the IV's. The Gen II Mjolnir armor would help compensate for lower augmentations.
Now I want to see a spartan who specializes in using a shield. It would also make sense given the context because of his weaker healing abilities.
@@EagleTopGamingshields... we might be able to integrate that into the Mk5's.
@@NauticalCoffin2404 I Mean LIke A Physical Shield Or Something More Akin To The Jackal Gauntlets?
Project CASKLOOM, Type-II A Buckler, and the Deaconcrest Shield Node would all like a word with you @@slayer6498
Don’t forget: Cap’s enhancements are 500 years older than Spartans’… and he wasn’t chosen due to genetic superiority; on the contrary, he was inferior in a physical and, maybe, even genetic sense, making the Super Soldier serum even more impressive
yes but halo is based on somewhat possible science while cap is stupid comic book none sense, they say he at peak human but does things that are straight impossible even with human peak power.
I dont think he was inferior in the genetical sense, he was healthy and smart, he was just skinny
@@quantumspark343 Smart yes, but his body was weak and had several illness in the MCU. Not someone you could describe as "healthy"
@@quantumspark343Dude was suffering from several illnesses some of which were genetic. He was definitely not cream of the crop material.
By that 'logic', the Federation from Star Trek would scale below that UNSC because they're 'only' from the 22nd and 23rd century even they scale above the UNSC in basically every respect except for travel speed at this point.
I'd honestly be curious to see what additional augmentations Steve Rogers would need to shore up the differences between him and the spartan 2s. It seems he more than meets the musculoskeletal requirements, but since he lacks the neural lace and many of the less physically impressive sensory augmentations, I'd guess he'd need to start with some pretty invasive surgeries which his enhanced physiology would allow him to survive with impunity.
Additionally, I'd be very interested in seeing Halsey's reaction to Steve being dumped in the Halo universe and being inducted into the spartan program. In the MCU, we have proof that using Steve's blood, the US was able to reverse engineer the original supersoldier serum, so I have no doubt that Halsey would be able to replicate this feat. How would the introduction of novel chemical augmentation meeting or exceeding many of the physical requirements of the Spartan 2s affect the Spartan 4 and maybe even Spartan 5 programs going forward?
Seriously. Just stick Cap in an Ironman and you'd get a much better product for a much cheaper and less surgery intensive price.
@@VunderGuy
He'd be exactly what the Spartan 3 program was aiming for. Just lacking a few extra parts.
@@JoseRodriguez-eu5ez
No. He'd be WAY MORE than ANY Spartan program in both the lower price tag and lower logistical footprint AND functionality. ANY Spartan programs are the ones lacking 'a few extra parts' compared to even early, baseline, Ironman armors.
The issue is would Halsey have any idea what the hell Vita Rays are? That's the one half of the super soldier program that has yet to be rediscovered. She would have the formula but once Steve tells her about Vita rays and how they work would she be able to recreate them?
@@darklightimages Best she would be able to figure is it is a positively bio-reactive radiation.
Great video once again, really appreciate the Installation 00 approach being taken to these topics. Cap's drop from a Quinjet into the ocean sans parachute from an indeterminate height at the beginning of The Winter Soldier could yield some interesting results regarding bone and connective tissue strength.
A combo of the Spartan program + the super soldier serum would be interesting.
Would spartan even be altered by the serum after he/she was augmented?
SPARTAN program, super soldier serum, CryNet Nanosuit 2.0.
@@Gartos_CZaugmentations only cover certain aspects of their biology and often they are biochemichal not genetic while super soldier serum augments all the cells in the body on a genetic level so yeah they would stack
@@scientistx5717hell ya i bet of chief got the super serum it would have been him spanking the didact in halo 4 instead of getting tossed around.
@@commentsectionman6231monsters I tell you utter monsters also hey there been a discussion about combining the aspects of nano suit and mjolnir in space battles just search this title along with adding space battles
Merging the Nanosuit 2 & MJOLNIR armor.
I always thought Cap was 2-3 times more powerful than a regular human in peak physical condition. I didn't realize just HOW powerful he really is. Makes me enjoy him even more honestly.
Comics Cap is actually considered the peak of human physicality without being superhuman at this point. The serum made him superhuman originally, but he eventually regressed to where he is now. Example is he can press 900 lbs over his head. It's considered superhuman once you go over 1000. But putting 900 over your head means you can just lift much more.
@@chadwhitfield6946cap in comics is superhuman by feats
@@Jondoe297.. tbf, most totally human superheroes in comics do superhuman feats regularly.
Imagine a combination of SPARTAN IV augmentation with captain america.
It really wouldn’t be much of a difference. The S-IVs are a lot weaker than the S-IIs and S-IIIs. It’s really their armor that allows them to even keep up with the other 2, better Spartans
I'd pay for that thumbnail skin.
Man, now I miss that old first person Avengers game that was being made ages ago.
Imagine tossing a shield around at the Covenant and Banished! And it bounces from one to the other like they’re pinball bumpers!
Now I'm imagining Steve Rogers wearing MJOLNIR while wielding _Mjolnir._
Yeah, I agree with the results of the video that Captain America could be a Spartan.
Aside from the Cap is my favorite MCU character of old comics through modern movies the outcome of your comparison wasn't a surprise. I love that you did this as Steve has always ranked in my eyes with John or the Spartans. In essence not just the original super soldier but truly a Spartan. No I dont want to see a crossover lol. This was however exceptionally well done as I would expect from you. Great job, now time for a sweet William and a glass of Glen.
I always thought caps super soldier serum resembled the Spartan 3s augmentations more, it’s nice to you explore these topics I only ever thought about 😂
I've always thought of MC and Cap as being very similarly built characters with their augmentations, capabilities, and where they act as being inspirational super soldiers. Seeing an actual comparison is pretty cool
Based on how chief is now, they're definitely pretty similar. Remember almost everything in here was when the spartan IIs were 14. Later in CE chief is flipping a 3 ton warthog with seemingly one hand
@@proper7439 3 tons? That's heavy for a scout vehicle.
@@altechelghanforever9906 I thought so too, that's what the wiki said though
@@altechelghanforever9906 Its the armor, worthog are still war truck even if they are mostly for scouting.
@@proper7439 cap isnt even close to that strong, he can canonically lift 1,200 pounds at max effort. chief could do that outside of his armor and more easily.
This was awesome! I would love a tech comparison between which are better the shields in stargate or halo.
Master chief and Captain America just running around during a morning workout "on your left" brings a smile to me
Ok that “Spartans assemble” was cool
I thoroughly enjoyed this video and would absolutely love to see more like it. Though I honestly have no idea who you might compare. On a bit of a side note, it would be very interesting to see a video in which you design a super soldier and armor.
You have posed interesting comparisons with very thought out conclusions. Very well done. Iron Man and Master Chief have their armor, both are impressive. But the comparison I’m interested in is the controlling AI Jarvis and Cortana.
Cortana wins, easily. A human brain is not to be trifled with, and Cortana is a human brain freed from its body.
Very cool breakdown, well done. I’d be curious to see how the Mjolnir stacks up against the Iron Man armor.
Poorly. There. Saves you a video. Ironman armor in the MCU starts off significantly better than Spartan armor and only get worse to the point that Ironman by Infinity War and Endgame himself could have turned the tide of Reach, at least until the covvie navy started glassing.
@@VunderGuy I realize that, but you could have said the same thing about Captain America. I went into this video knowing for sure he could be a spartan but it was still very interesting to see him break everything down and compare it. That’s the fun of these videos.
@@tylerp4130 Well let's see the iron man suits states. It can fly, is extremely maneuverable, can tank tank (lol) shells for days, and has enough built in fire power to level a city block.
Arguably, the MCU super serum is superior to the Spartan II augments. It out performs Halsey's work is several areas, but most importantly, it's minimally invasive. We don't have any data on how it would work for people who aren't Steve Rogers, but, if he isn't an anomaly, it's conceivable that the serum would produce a higher rate of success than the Halsey method. That also makes mass production far easier. This seems more in the direction of Forerunner Gene mods like we see in the Forerunner books than the augments we see in the game's.
Give cap a cerebral chip, and he can intergrate with mjolnir rather easily.
He's basically a suped up spartan3 (chem implants)
Idea for the next video
How advanced would be Spartan armors if Stark took part in it
And also compare his armors to Spartan armors
Bro, even the MCU suits would give the freaking forerunners a run for their money. If were talking comics well... the space Voldemorts had a good run.
@@voomvoom4522 Definitely not. Forerunner Combat Skins are so far beyond anything that exists in Marvel. Stark's most advanced armor in or out of comics couldn't scratch real Forerunner equipment.
@@bable6314 buddy, Iron Man's most advanced suits were capable of taking down universe ending GODS, meanwhile, the Diadact, who presumably had the best suit that the forerunners had available, had his suit pierced by a regular COMBAT KNIFE.
In a raw strength test, I feel like it’s fair to say that cap could snap master chief in half if they were both in civilian clothing
At the expense of vision and reaction. At Brubaker's run, Steve said that he dodges and fights off bullets so easily because he sees them very easily.
He's using MCU Cap, not 616/comic book Cap. That would be a stomp in Cap's favor.
It kinda feels like the spartens are already super soldiers and arnt they about as strong as cap, they also honestly make more sense than cap does as far as i can see. They are far more based in possible future science with a small mix of outlandish sci fi. Its one of the reasons spartens are so cool to me, because we may one day have real life spartens.
He comparing 14 years old spartans to cap, when they are adult they outclass him by a lot even out of armor, hell chief squatted a worthog size granite boulder while having a fist size hole in one of his leg.
I've always felt that MCU Captain + Iron Man armor = Master Chief/SPARTAN-IIs. Glad to know my gut feeling on this has some basis in qualitative facts and speculation.
I've thought about this kind of stuff for years, always found it interesting that SPARTAN-IIs cover cybernetic augments, MCU Cap covers chemical augments via SSS, and say the Augments like Khan or Julian Bashir from Star Trek cover genetic augments. If you combine all those into a single regimen...that would be something terrifying...
From a meta point of view Captain America is one of the many inspirations for the Spartan Program. So Captain America can be considered a proto-spartan. But then again placing them in the same universe hardly works because if humanity had achieved a Super Soldier during WWII the Spartan program would have been far beyond anything we can even begin to imagine by the 26th century.
Not to mention all the super heroes and villains roaming around XD
@@Gat720Dua ANY version of a Spider-Man would walk over the Spartans, much as I love them. The Spiders are faster, stronger, and more perceptive (except Miguel) than the Spartans, and there are indicators that they heal faster than normal humans as well, though how fast is debatable.
@@tmac2744 What gives Spider-Man the advantage over most characters isn’t the speed, strength, intelligence it’s he’s Spider sense if you take that one ability away from him he gets his ass handed in most fights.
@@lewislewis4240😂 Really!!
Bro you know nothing about Spiderman!!
@@tmac2744Wait!! HOW
Isn't Miguel the one of the Strongest Spiderman
John: So why is there a Spartan that looks like a bat and another Spartan who has a shield and sports the colors of the American flag?
Captian America and Batman: 😐
Cortana: They're your new partners 😃
This was actually an interesting video I didn't know I wanted! Glad to see your content diversifying as long as it's interesting for you 😊
If you want to be technical, Capt would be considered as a SPARTAN III considering his enhancement was a chemical enhancement baseline....
Now the question is if Steve Rodger after his super soldier serum. Could he get the Spartan Augmentations and increase his abilities even further.
The spartan 2 one no, the spartan 4 yes, they removed a lot of the risky augmentation and made it safer for adults.
@@angerskarin9222 he'd survive the 2 probably
@@aryeng3004 He's too old, though. You need to be in the middle of puberty for the augmentations to work.
@@bable6314you don’t need to be a child to have the augments work, it was just a higher chance of they were kids
Really been enjoying how you’ve been experimenting with new video formats keep up the good work
Imagining Steve Rogers in a combat scenario against the covenant is very interesting. I wonder how well his shield is at blocking plasma, I assume his original vibranium shield, would be capable, and given his overall combat prowess using it, he may very well be able to make use of banking the shield off objects, contributing to multiple KIAs in a single throw. Might even be capable of piercing Elite shields and killing them in the process.
It’s funny you made this, since after the Chief vs Noble Six video I was hoping for a Chief vs Cap video
I’d love to see if Samus Aran from the Metroid franchise could be a Spartan. Some of her specifics might require a bit of detective work, but hey, she’s definitely one of the other iconic armored one-person-army protagonist from videogames.
Can I get a video on the potential changes to the hand? Or mjolnir gauntlet breakdown? I always find it interesting how super strength isn’t shattering your hand with each punch. Lots of tiny bones, not great for compression but good at grabbing things.
You should do a follow-up video diving into exactly how well he could perform based on his Baseline stats if he also went under the Spartan augmentation in addition to his base super soldier abilities. Also how effective would his vibranium Shield be in combat in the Halo Universe and potentially how powerful would his armor be if it was made out of vibranium
cap shield will cut through the mjonir armor outershell like a knife through butter though,we saw him multiple time dismembering opponent with just as strong if not stronger defense than a spartan armor such as ultron and his drone,all of them are made from the same material as iron man armor,the mjonir best feats without it shield it stopping pretty much all ballistic projectile from small arm weapon to dmr but high velocity round such as the anti material round of the sniper rife just shred right through it with shield the mjonir can take hit that vaporized other being such as that of the setinel and forerunner monitor and the armor shell is made out of a modified titanium alloy (yes i know johnson wasn't vaporized but probably because spark didnt want to kill him) so i would say the shield will be a very very effective against spartan armor but with a spartan in it probably not so much because bucky can easily catch cap shield so i dont think it would be a problem for most spartan to counter it as long as they don't get hit in the head
Damn. Very IMPRESSIVE video. Excellent analysis of MCU Cap.
Steve stands in the burning wreck of reach as wave after wave of covenant try to kill him off… “I can do this all day..”
It definitely was what I was expecting special with an MCU type of Captain America. I’m surprised you didn’t mention anything about my previous post that scene, and also falcon and the Winter soldier since their primary opponents were super soldiers. As for another character, I kind of have to agree with the others. Black Panther would be a good choice since so we probably be sticking with the MCU versus comic book although maybe trying to compile data on Bucky Barnes wouldn’t be a bad idea as a winter soldier
Imagine Cap and MC working together in the battlefield. Just thinking about it gives me chills. They can both adapt their styles to support each other and watching their 6s while giving punishments to their opponents.
what I would very much like to see is if Green Arrow, the Punisher, or the Republic Commandos would make for good Spartan program candidates, &which ones they would best fit in with
I really most sincerely hope you read this, Installation00
I Mean Punisher Would Make A Good Spartan IV Due To His Previous Special Forces Training, Physical Conditioning, And His Age.
Green Arrow (Oliver Queen), could be either an Orion candidate, or a Spartan IV. He could even have been one of the baselines that the Orion's and II's were measured against, physically and genetically, if he predates the program. If later, his acquired skills would make him a valuable asset to any Spartan IV team, though his mouthiness and lack of respect for a chain of command would probably prevent him from being considered for either program. In short, I would think he would likely be a proto-Orion Candidate.
The Punisher is DEFINITELY a Spartan IV, based on his background. While a case could be made for him being an Orion, similar to the one above for Green Arrow, his combat background would fit better with the IVs. In fact, a Punisher aimed at the Covenant and/or forces that are working to attack humanity would be an interesting idea. Getting him going would be no problem. Getting him to STOP would be.
As for the Republic Commandos, it would entirely depend on which time frame you are pulling from. The Clone trooper versions would best fit in with the Spartan IIs. The Commandos seen during Episodes IV-VI probably fit better with the IIIs or IVs, and the Commandos post Endor MIGHT fit the Spartan IV category.
Just because, Mandalorians would likely fall in the Orion category of Spartans, especially with Jango Fett being the final genetic selection for creating the Clones.
@@tmac2744 RC from the Clone Wars would need additional augmentations, but their genetics are likely already superior to the average S-II candidate. They COULD be Spartans, but they can't just jump in MJOLNIR and call it a day like Captain America could.
I always wondered this and Now I know. Awesome video as always man.
Actually, the 38.5 mph is IN their armor, not out. And MC ran at 70mph in Mk5, not 58mph.
I would like to see Wolverine, and Spiderman.
That awkward moment when a WWII super soldier outclasses a futuristic super soldier w/o power armor.
In an AU where the MCU and Halo is in the same universe, a Spartan accidentally traveling to either the 1940s 0r 2010s is gonna have a serious mind fuck when they see a literal grandpa doing shit with pure muscle... when it still takes their entire armor to do the same thing.
Steve Rogers in armor is great, but it's really Frank Castle i'd wanna give it to =)
Frank Castle wears the War Machine armor in one of the comics!
The real question is? Would he be the shortest Spartan? Are there any Halo cannon Spartans shorter than Captain America?
I remember having a conversation along these lines after the 1st or second Captain America Movie. It's best that you stuck to MCU Cap, since the comic version's abilities had some...shenanigans depending on who wrote him.
If he wore the spartan armor, he would definitely excel at having the UNSC's ass. But good video! I think Roger's would make the perfect Spartan.
What we really want to know is… how well will the Vibraniam shield hold up to a gravity hammer.
Captain america wouldnt even require the surgery, he'd already be suitable for mjolnir.
can you do deathstroke next please, he would put master chief to shame
The one aspect of Steve that I think would counter certain aspects is that it enhances specific thought processes too. Good becomes great, bad becomes worse. So Steve wouldn't have any issues following orders until it clashes with his ideology.
I sense this is the beginning of a new series
So he technically has a slower healing factor but it doesn't seem to be that relevant as the beating he took from Thanos seemed to be something he could walk off in a few moments. Dude was shot through his stomach twice and was lifting some insane weight. To be able to engage your core that much after it was shot twice suggests a higher healing factor or just some insane pain tolerance/endurance.
Cap would need invasive surgery for mjolnir, but SPI seems fine. The added protection would make him a one man army.
Let’s see a notable space marine vs our boy Chief.
I’m putting my bets on Chief.
Astartes?
Both are pretty well matched, but chief can react faster, is stronger, faster, likely more durable, has a built in iron halo (energy shield), and can use a spartan laser, arc-920, spnkr, 14mm sniper rifle, or steal covenant plasma weaponry
@@thetower8553 yuh
@@charles-vi7qb Well, keep in mind the banging arsenal the grimdark boyscouts are packing.
Plasma weapons that are similar to and in some cases more powerful than Halo plasma weapons, pysker powers, bolters, chainswords (not really that powerful, but definitely cool) and other flavors or bolters like their bolter lmg (can’t remember the name) storm bolter, bolt pistol, and I think a bolt sniper rifle? Oh also they have melts weapons which are a absolutely nuts.
But the grimdark boyscouts, while not as fast, lithe, or even as strong as Chief (only by a small amout) are crazy durable. Like, why would anyone make someone able to withstand that level of punishment? They can have their legs ripped off and the entrails dangling out and keep fighting. Also they can lose limbs and be unphased.
@@ThatOneAudioTeam well yeah, of course they have weapons that can kill spartans, though bolters would be limited in their effectiveness due to mjolnir’s tailored durability towards ballistic attacks, on both the titanium plating and the energy shielding.
Honestly in terms of ability to eat damage unfazed, I’d say master chief having a good portion of his leg melted through, and continuing to fight at nearly 99% efficiency after engaging movement assist is a pretty good example of such.
And while unsc weaponry is limited in what could be used against space marines, between handheld rail guns, a dollar store lascannon, glorified world II anti tank rifle fired at far higher velocities, and the literal marathon rocket launcher, he does have a good chance at beating a space marine, or punching it to death at least
You forgot some thing the multi story drop the Captain America made in count America, the Winter soldier from the top floor, elevator to the ground level, even with the shield being made if I bring him yeah there was still some transfer of force, and it took some thing out of them, but he got up and ran off so I would definitely say yeah no positive bone reinforcement probably joint reinforcement. You might want to check that footage again.
Be cool to see a comparison with Samus from the Metroid series as well
Captain America in mjolnir armor coupled with his shield should make him unstoppable
Anyone else notice the Mass Effect 2 clip that was snuck in? Does this mean we'll get one on Commander Sheppard?
Honestly I figured Spartan III if not Spartan II. Iron man's suit is somewhat comparable to Mjolnir. Speaking of that'd be a great comparison video.
Mcu cap makes the team , but comic book cap stomps a hole squad of Spartans
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That was very interesting thank you!
I would like to point out in terms of bone density that there is a bit of inconsistency within the MCU pertaining to the super soldier serum giving enhanced bone density. John Walker who was the second captain America actually had his left arm snapped relatively easily compared to the feats that Steve Roger performed. It is said that the serum Walker took was an even more enhanced version that Steve took which made Walker stronger, faster, and more durable than Rogers was. Thankfully you only looked at Steve’s feats rather than Walker’s but it still goes to show that the MCU is inconsistent with its power scaling for durability and strength of super soldier serum users
Is not inconsistent Steve Rogers received the original serum of Eriksen while walker and others received copies that aren’t as good and complete as the original one
The big issue would be not having the neural interfrace to control the armor.
LOL...fusion Cap' with M.C., and you get a match for Ur-Didact.
I think it's safe to say that Cap, starting from an extremely deficient state before his transformation, versus the Spartan candidates being handpicked for their superior potential to others before augmentation, is impressive in and of itself. The possibly horrifying idea is giving a Spartan the Super Soldier Serum after their initial augmentation; I think that that would require a while new advanced class of Mjönir Armour. Also, missed detail is that Cap's overall mental facilities and senses have been greatly increased, it's never specified by how much, but obviously enough that he never needs tech assist and easily calculated angles on the fly.
Great video always thought cap fit the deception of a Spartan 3 almost to a T. Got a video idea for you. Spartan time v.s the ''zone'' athlete's and gamers all know. I record my games a lot and there will be times for example someone is thrusting straight at me and i melee them in the visor. when i review the footage its not exactly clear what happened but i remain positive i punched the other guy in the visor. Granted i play on a 240hrtz panel but only record at 60. I think it would be cool to see a video comparing the two to give a better understanding of what its like to be a Spartan.
Crazy thought:You should have use Marvel Comicbook ultimate line Capt.America's son the "Red Skull".
He said Disney! Jail him immediately!
Because Captain America is already strong enough without armor to rip a car door from its car (in Captain America: The First Avenger, right after he gets augmented and is chasing a hydra terrorist through the streets), as well as kick a truck into an enemy hostile on the opposite side (somewhere around the beginning of Captain America: Civil War), he either is already strong enough to wear MJOLNIR armor without being crushed by its compressing effect, and/or already is stronger than an armorless Halo spartan. A spartan can bench press around 870 to 1,160 lbs without armor on as it says they can carry four times their own weight. Master Chief is 290 lbs without the armor on, so you can do the math from that as to how much he could lift without wearing armor. WITH armor though, it’s 870/1,160 lbs times five in GEN 1 MJOLNIR armor (not sure what it is with GEN 2, and what it is with the new GEN 3).
But anyways, 870 to 1,160 lbs is pretty strong, but I don’t know if that’s strong enough to rip a car door off (also, real life Patrik Baboumian is so strong that he can bench press 1,350 lbs, which is insane, and if Patrik isn’t the strongest man in the world then I don’t know how much the strongest man in the world could bench press. Does this mean Baboumian could withstand the compression effect of the MJOLNIR armor? If his muscles are this strong then his bones must be too, or else his bones would already be causing too much stress and crushing on his bones). I’m not sure if this about the Spartans is correct, but this information is what I remember learning when I looked it all up.
When you think about it, a Spartan is is just Captain America in an iron man suit
If Capt is too proud to wear an ironman suit. I doubt Capt would wear a Spartan suit as well... unfortunately.
Without the MOLJNIR armor, Capt America will be killed by the covenant or the Flood.
As a huge Captain America fanboy and huge fan of all things halo lore this video hit just right 🫡
great video man, I might have a suggestion for another one of these videos, Could Arkham batman be a spartan, In my personal opinion I think yes he can but it would be interesting to see you make a video on it. thanks for reading my comment
I hope the ONI goon are smart enough to know that cap has strict morals keep him far far away from anything that smells shady or he might just overthrow the government. While the war is ongoing I don’t think they’d have to much issue with him as there are more pressing priorities but post war is a little more questionable. He’s definitely go awol if he thought that oni was being too shady.
-Suit of power armor
-Big and green
-Augmented super-soldier
-Wields MJOLNIR
-Taken at a young age by a shadowy intelligence agency
-Skilled at aiming long-range weapons
A SPARTAN-II is all six original Avengers in one.
This is gold
Hello Spartans....i would like you all to meet your new combat instructor....STEVE RODGERS👊👊
I always assumed the master chief was physically superior to captain America but I guess I didn’t look enough into it. I think the comic version is “peak human” while the MCU version is a super soldier. But peak human always means super human in comic books.
So basically, Captain America was effectively a short yet very fast Spartan with poorer eye sight and slower healing capabilities roughly
600 years before the events of Halo CE. That's pretty impressive.
This is more or less what I expected imagine hybridizing the processes though I may be misremembering I'm fairly certain kelly 087 can do 65 mph but that's in armor
Edit: right number wrong unit of measurement kph not mph
Comparison between Halo Spartan and Warhammer Space Marine would be dope coming from you
Damn, Cap is a beast.
I would like you to do Wolverine and black panther.
Given there are versions of Captain America with a healing factor on par with wolverine and strength on par with hulk, it was probably wise to restrict your consideration to MCU Captain America.
Captain America as a spartan would be right up there with Masters Chief! Only he would probably be focused on preserving human life than going for the mission objective that might sacrifice more human lives. If Chief is the soul of the Halo franchise, Cap would be the heart of it.
Dr Halsey would have used Cap example. As the stepping stone Template for her SPARTAN program trust that ... HooAh
I had no doubts that Cap would be Spartan material, indeed one of the best especially compared to Mark 3s and 4s who were adults when augmented
My primary concern was the cybernetic enhancements, whether Cap even needed them and how much stronger he would be with the whole Spartan package, A.I companion included.......
Who would be Cap's A.I, Stark or Carter
For some reason I want to see cap and chief team up
A versus between Captain America and Master Chief, both out and in comparable armor, would be interesting to see.
Outside of armor, Cap stomps John. With armor, it can go either way.
@@stormichow5325 in what universe? they are about as fast, have about the same reaction speed, but spartan are way stronger and resistant then cap is, all the numbers in this vid are from just after the augmentation when they are 14.
@@angerskarin9222Captain defeated wolverine and fights on Par with black panther.
@@draco_1876 So?? they both have a little over human strength and speed nothing major.
@@angerskarin9222 No. Wolverine tanked hits from Thor, Juggernaut and Hulk. Those 3 characters alone are more powerful than the precursors would ever be. Black Panther can survive machine gun fire, fought on Par with blade, Luke cage and hulk as well.
You know I think this is a cool idea, seeing if other people from other franchises could be a spartan. Another video could be V or David Martines from Cyberpunk, would be interesting too since they use cybernetic augmentations rather than chemical or biological augmentations.