Meet Pulitzer-Winning Stanford Professor (Richard Powers Interview)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @DavidPerellChannel
    @DavidPerellChannel  Месяц назад +115

    Richard Powers won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction.
    He's one of the best novelists alive today. This interview is a detailed look at his writing process, inspired by the class he used to teach at Stanford - and he's never done an interview quite like this.
    Here are 17 lessons:
    1. When you're sure what you're looking at, look harder.
    2. There are ultimately only three kinds of novels: (1) Person vs. person, (2) person vs. society, and (3) person vs. environment.
    3. Person vs. Person: This is the psychological novel.
    4. Person vs. Society: This is the sociological novel.
    5. Person vs. Environment: This type of novel has gone out of style, and Richard is bringing it back.
    6. Clear out the clutter in your life so you can focus on your writing. The fewer complications you have, the more rich and textured your creative process can become.
    7. The best writing advice he's ever received? “Keep your petri dishes open.” Don't tie down your plans or outlines too tightly.
    8. There are two kinds of writers: Top-Down and Bottom Up.
    9. Top-Down writers: Start with the theme and the formal shape that'll drive the story.
    10. Bottom-Up writers: Start with people, faces, voices, and local events… then gravitate toward the design of the book.
    11. How do you create compelling characters? Push them to the wall. Make them choose between their top two core values.
    12. English speakers are innately bilingual because they can use Latin-inspired words and Anglo-Saxon ones.
    13. Editing is the art of excavating what your subconscious mind already knows.
    14. When writing dialogue, read it out loud to yourself. That's how readers will read it, too. They'll subvocalize.
    15. For years, Richard wrote and wrote and wouldn't leave the computer until he had 1,000 words on the page.
    16. “If you would learn the secrets of nature, you must practice more humanity.”
    17. “The best arguments in the world won’t change a single person’s mind. The only thing that can do that is a good story.”
    And finally, what's his goal as a writer? Here it is: “We have this sense that structure is inimical to emotion or that systems are inimical to individuals, that a book can either be a heart book or a head book. And my desire is to write something that's like us, namely an all-in-one.”

    • @Btain
      @Btain Месяц назад

      Once he said "white and privileged" I stopped watching.

    • @Beshladilawal
      @Beshladilawal 24 дня назад

      Thank you 🙏

    • @Atjayvang21
      @Atjayvang21 17 дней назад

      ​@@Btainseems about white

    • @ThaoPhan-km3sn
      @ThaoPhan-km3sn 10 дней назад

      0😊0⁰😊

  • @asteroidmonger
    @asteroidmonger Месяц назад +81

    I had never heard of this author until a few hours ago thanks to your video. I rushed to a bookstore and purchased Overstory 30 minutes before they closed. I will start reading it tomorrow.

    • @DavidPerellChannel
      @DavidPerellChannel  Месяц назад +7

      The writing is so incredibly beautiful. Here are two of the quotes I referenced in the episode:
      1) “The farm was where Nick first started sketching. The penciled dreams of boys-rockets, outlandish cars, massed armies, imaginary cities, more baroque with detail each year. Then wilder textures, directly observed-the forest of hairs on a caterpillar’s back and the stormy weather maps in the grain of floorboards.”
      2) “Each child’s tree has its own excellence: the ash’s diamond-shaped bark, the walnut’s long compound leaves, the maple’s shower of helicopters, the vase-like spread of the elm, the ironwood’s fluted muscle.”

  • @AnaKravic
    @AnaKravic 16 дней назад +13

    One must admire the guest for suffering the host's plasticky worldview with such grace. A masterful demonstration of empathy in action, I am awed. Thank you 🙏

    • @ronricooandasan9612
      @ronricooandasan9612 7 дней назад +3

      Yes. I thought I was the only one who noticed. I wish the way the host sat was less irreverent too, but that’s just me.

    • @opuskalin8251
      @opuskalin8251 День назад

      Me too. I was gonna say, "i hate looking at it" ​@@ronricooandasan9612

  • @Daxgil
    @Daxgil Месяц назад +77

    One of the best literary podcasts I’ve seen in awhile. Thank you for such a great discussion. I’ve had his book “Overstory” sitting on the desk ready to begin…

    • @DavidPerellChannel
      @DavidPerellChannel  Месяц назад +3

      He's really, really articulate

    • @billyalarie929
      @billyalarie929 Месяц назад +1

      Yeah, he really knows how to instruct on the technical nuances of the how-to of the thing.
      Thanks for this one. Honestly, congrats on landing the interview with the man.

    • @Daxgil
      @Daxgil Месяц назад

      @@billyalarie929seriously, what an honor

    • @agreenelephant
      @agreenelephant Месяц назад

      It’s the sort of instruction you spend countless hours on RUclips looking for.

    • @monasalama479
      @monasalama479 14 дней назад +1

      I totally agree ! And I listen to so many!

  • @darrengagliardi1540
    @darrengagliardi1540 Месяц назад +24

    The Overstory really impacted me - I didn’t really notice it happening while reading it, but by the time I finished, and and now a few years later, I just have a deeper connection and love for trees and nature. Great book.

    • @DavidPerellChannel
      @DavidPerellChannel  Месяц назад +2

      Yep, yep... his writing has a way of bringing nature to life

  • @Sabamonster
    @Sabamonster 25 дней назад +10

    What an absolutely brilliant man. He's a joy to listen to and he's incredibly articulate; which is obviously not surprising at all.

  • @DanielBadosa
    @DanielBadosa Месяц назад +12

    "First there was nothing. Then there was everything."
    And here Iam bawling my eyes out with those few but powerful words. Amazing interview, for sure one of the most enlightining author podcast I head in a long time. Congratulations and please keep up the marvelous work.

  • @sherribar
    @sherribar Месяц назад +12

    I listened to this twice this weekend already. It’s a really incredible interview. I paid a lot of money for a weekend online workshop from another well known author recently, and I learned so much more about writing from this podcast. Thank you for giving him this forum.

  • @MichaelKilmanAuthor
    @MichaelKilmanAuthor 26 дней назад +6

    What a wondeful conversation. Thank you for hosting it

  • @tahaboukemia1434
    @tahaboukemia1434 Месяц назад +7

    Great interview ! And as a voice over script writer I kept saying his voice is soooo perfect for VOICE OVER 😅 ... HE MUST CONSIDER THIIIIIS!!!

  • @thatonepersononmars4873
    @thatonepersononmars4873 Месяц назад +6

    I admit i was a bit skeptical before getting into this podcast because my library of books ive read -though very limited- does not include The Overstory but you can bet on my life that I am going to give his book a read. His words are so articulate and his insight is absolute treasure for us aspiring writers. i LOVE diving into the "psychoanalytical" aspect of writing and mr Richard here made me fall in love with it even more! So thankyou to both of you for sharing this gem of a podcast!

  • @anvitan7896
    @anvitan7896 15 дней назад +1

    He is a great tracher and the interviewer does a great job - its sincere and flows organically

  • @kamlikachandlafineart
    @kamlikachandlafineart 3 дня назад

    The best talk I’ve heard on writ I’m in a long long time! Thank you both, the facilitator and the guest.

  • @tomsterdaniels
    @tomsterdaniels Месяц назад +12

    Niiiiiiice, stoked to listen to this one. Overstory forever changed the way I look at trees...

  • @LizKeye
    @LizKeye 19 дней назад +21

    I know this isn't relevant, but he looks fucking great for 67.

  • @user-mc9sg9fw3w
    @user-mc9sg9fw3w Месяц назад +26

    Great interview! Really glad the algorithm overlords recommend this. Can’t wait to read The Overstory now!

    • @DavidPerellChannel
      @DavidPerellChannel  Месяц назад +1

      Me too. I was legitimately worried this one wouldn't do well

  • @billyalarie929
    @billyalarie929 Месяц назад +3

    Might be the best deep dive into the process I’ve ever seen.

  • @NILESWORD
    @NILESWORD Месяц назад +5

    my favorite part of this podcast is David's thoughtful questions which are a result of his active listening of the guest

  • @mikezonebyzone
    @mikezonebyzone 28 дней назад +2

    Outstanding interview. It blew my mind so many times. So many beautiful insights, tips, and quotes. Thank you for asking beautiful questions and creating the conditions for inspiring answers. Well done. 🙌

  • @TheParadoxDestroyer
    @TheParadoxDestroyer Месяц назад +6

    Amazing masterclass. I am most certainly going to apply many of these principles and reshape some of my perceptions of writing due to this podcast.

  • @JennyProzell-gf4xk
    @JennyProzell-gf4xk 25 дней назад +1

    The best literary talk on RUclips that I have listened to! I have learned so much from this. Thank you!

  • @jessateoxon4563
    @jessateoxon4563 5 дней назад

    This is a gem. Thank you for this insightful conversation!

  • @Crusoe40
    @Crusoe40 24 дня назад +1

    What a pleasurable watch. Thanks.

  • @menezesnatalia
    @menezesnatalia День назад

    This interview is very enjoyable to watch.

  • @DougRigsby-tf2xw
    @DougRigsby-tf2xw 29 дней назад +1

    I like his expression of splitting the predication as it lends suspense or tension to the thought on the page.

  • @swatisikka7396
    @swatisikka7396 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for this wonderful masterclass. So many craft concepts, so simply and masterfully explained. Loved his humanity and humility - marks of a true genius. Looking forward to reading the book.

  • @nazrinasyraf0000
    @nazrinasyraf0000 Месяц назад +5

    This was such a great episode. And i heard it on audio first 👌🏼

  • @karinasalazar6778
    @karinasalazar6778 27 дней назад +1

    This was beautiful, informative, eloquent. Thank you both

  • @jerrypeters1157
    @jerrypeters1157 Месяц назад +3

    exceptional interview! Thank you!

  • @derrickweeks
    @derrickweeks Месяц назад +2

    Best interview thus far. Thank you!

    • @davidperell3407
      @davidperell3407 Месяц назад

      Nice, glad you liked it… will try to do more like this one

  • @DougRigsby-tf2xw
    @DougRigsby-tf2xw 29 дней назад +1

    He’s on point. You go back to an earlier work, you want to make changes. Rewrites are never finished but one commits to publication because it’s necessary.

  • @Maggie-y5e
    @Maggie-y5e 27 дней назад +1

    Thank you for this interview ❤

  • @eyeconiclogistics
    @eyeconiclogistics 6 дней назад

    Such an eye opener. I’ll have to put this one on repeat.

  • @zaccrowlands
    @zaccrowlands Месяц назад +3

    This podcast was great! Love the storytelling frameworks and he’s really great speaker.

  • @01Simsy
    @01Simsy Месяц назад +1

    This might be the most useful writing advice I've ever heard. And I'm already loving Overstory. Thank you for sharing! Definitely gonna revisit this one.

  • @jsa-z1722
    @jsa-z1722 Месяц назад +2

    A brilliant fantasy series published in 2001, The Bitterbynde, is set in a world swept by weather and storms and natural elements. An amazing series nominated for Locus Award.

  • @mayaarkhipova3160
    @mayaarkhipova3160 Месяц назад +5

    ❤"We have to know the world the way a Scientist knows the world and we have to know the world the way an Animist or Pantheist Child knows the world"❤ 🤯

  • @watchmakersp9935
    @watchmakersp9935 21 день назад +1

    Excellent - thank you.

  • @nelsonmza9915
    @nelsonmza9915 Месяц назад +1

    Excelente clase. Gracias por compartir ✌🏾

  • @howardkoor9365
    @howardkoor9365 10 дней назад

    Sensational interview

  • @mhw0508
    @mhw0508 Месяц назад +1

    mexican gothic is the only modern novel i can think of with strong human vs human vs nature it had all three.... Excellent interview

  • @BriantWebster
    @BriantWebster Месяц назад

    Thanks for the interview. He sems like a great, sensible writer.

  • @lsnnlmg
    @lsnnlmg Месяц назад

    Such a joy whenever I saw an email or RUclips notification from you. Great work.

  • @mdavidmullins
    @mdavidmullins Месяц назад +1

    Amazing interview.

  • @andriersada
    @andriersada Месяц назад

    this episode is a treasure. Thank you!

  • @julietatonello
    @julietatonello 29 дней назад

    So good. Thank you so much

  • @hawkarae
    @hawkarae 3 дня назад

    Richard Power's protagonists are familiar and surprising...akin to reading a diary of my life, written by another.

    Dozens of R. Powers quotes on neon sticky notes 😅

  • @SanjeevKumar-hn2ml
    @SanjeevKumar-hn2ml 27 дней назад

    Second half of the podcast was great 🔥👌

  • @lordself5665
    @lordself5665 29 дней назад +1

    I still want to be a poet when I will grow up.😅 Could you believe he said that

  • @Ratnakar.Goswami
    @Ratnakar.Goswami 21 день назад

    too good to have listened just once

  • @hakeemahmad1525
    @hakeemahmad1525 11 дней назад +1

    This guy is the truth.

  • @kristinabliss
    @kristinabliss 7 дней назад +1

    "One of the great sadnesses of a novelist ...it becomes this fixed thing."

  • @gabuko_web_studio
    @gabuko_web_studio Месяц назад +2

    Man against nature... my first thought when to The Old Man and the Sea. Ernest Hemingway wrote that in 1951 and it was met with popular acclaim.

  • @MelodieHicks-vn7qd
    @MelodieHicks-vn7qd 27 дней назад +1

    Wonderful interview! What is the name of the poet he quotes on her death bed "First there was nothing, then there was everything." ? Beautiful moment. I think he says her name: Brendon? But I can't hear it fully. Thank you!

  • @jamaicandonz
    @jamaicandonz Месяц назад +1

    Is it just me or can anybody else picture Richard powers reading you a bedtime story😌😌

  • @bishojoo
    @bishojoo 25 дней назад

    Thank you

  • @kravchuxa
    @kravchuxa 3 дня назад

    What a diamond! 😮❤

  • @Phoenix_Rises
    @Phoenix_Rises Месяц назад +2

    Super awesome.

  • @molgallery
    @molgallery 7 дней назад

    It not only about literature but the is also a philosophy beautifully interwoven into this conversation . Thank you for letting me enjoy this interview , Dorota .

  • @ZooDinghy
    @ZooDinghy 11 дней назад

    These passages read like a non-fiction book to me. It doesn't sound like literary fiction at all. I don't see how that can bring tears to anybody's eyes... And I thought I knew what moves people.

  • @vangelisp.4546
    @vangelisp.4546 28 дней назад +1

    he looks like professor Bishop (Fringe tv series) of course he's a genius

  • @avtpro
    @avtpro Месяц назад

    Really Amazing and I'm only 24 mins in.

    • @DavidPerellChannel
      @DavidPerellChannel  Месяц назад

      Nice, let me know if anything sticks out from the rest of the episode

  • @budiardjo6610
    @budiardjo6610 28 дней назад

    he definitely had really good name

  • @ShubhamKumar-uv6ri
    @ShubhamKumar-uv6ri Месяц назад

    Awesome 👍

  • @ronricooandasan9612
    @ronricooandasan9612 7 дней назад

    Richard Powers sounds like a movie narrator somewhere.

  • @davidfleming4052
    @davidfleming4052 10 дней назад

    There was a story of icons in conflict about Alfred North Whitehead. A friend of Gertrude Stein who co-authored Mathematica Principia with Bertrand Russell, sitting across from Ramanujan at Trinity. Who was ANW's math student at Harvard 1923-24? J. Robert Oppenheimer. Who was ANW's chief critic? Henry Nelson Wieman. What was the subject of MLK Jr's PhD? Henry Nelson Wieman's Creative Interchange. So, here are icons of intelligence vs. wisdom, love and power.
    Was Wieman a good man? Nope. A horrible father, possessed by his work. A tragic figure.

  • @ratnadipabiswas1999
    @ratnadipabiswas1999 Месяц назад +1

  • @FaisalKhan-vg5el
    @FaisalKhan-vg5el 27 дней назад +1

    Is anyone interested in joining the virtual community to have like-minded readers from around mother earth?

  • @tomaseriksson5430
    @tomaseriksson5430 Месяц назад +7

    Just when I thought I was out, David pulls me back in

  • @erikhristev2613
    @erikhristev2613 26 дней назад

    Video would be slightly better if the host didn’t say “hmm” after every sentence the guest says

  • @mariarahelvarnhagen2729
    @mariarahelvarnhagen2729 Месяц назад

    can one commit identity theft in playwrighting ?

  • @KarlFreeman-fe1nd
    @KarlFreeman-fe1nd 12 дней назад

    Hemingway

  • @11b11b1
    @11b11b1 18 дней назад

    1:00:21

  • @taradeleeuw2344
    @taradeleeuw2344 Месяц назад

    My story

  • @darenlarsen
    @darenlarsen Месяц назад

    I am still unclear about why Jack London is not literary. His stories rarely assume men won over nature.

  • @HillTopThinker
    @HillTopThinker 29 дней назад +2

    Why does he look like Stephen King

    • @Nhlakuneepo
      @Nhlakuneepo 26 дней назад +1

      😂Thought I was the only one

  • @TheSciollio
    @TheSciollio Месяц назад

    Professor’s got an almost identical voice as Ethan Hawke

  • @JonCampos-kh2bw
    @JonCampos-kh2bw Месяц назад

    I thought that was Stephen king.

  • @HeyQuinton
    @HeyQuinton Месяц назад +1

    21 thumbnail changes...geeeeez lol

  • @GrassCatStudio
    @GrassCatStudio Месяц назад

    I swear I just saw a quote from Ursula Le Guin that it is a stunted and revealing paradigm that people assume that “plot=conflict.” So unfortunately, I didn’t make it past the intro to this interview.

  • @iLoveWriting365
    @iLoveWriting365 Месяц назад

    👀👀👀

  • @ccwoodlands1565
    @ccwoodlands1565 3 дня назад

    One thing about writers that always turns me off is their lack of humility or struggle with their craft. This is too preachy and feels heavy handed.

  • @toriajustice605
    @toriajustice605 22 дня назад

    🤍

  • @fireandseed
    @fireandseed 22 дня назад

    Nice socks 🥰

  • @jeanclod8810
    @jeanclod8810 8 дней назад

    Very difficult to follow for an award winning story teller.

  • @explodechan
    @explodechan 11 дней назад

    Sorry to say this, but that Nemo example was completely useless lool no offense

  • @shashinkawthale6534
    @shashinkawthale6534 23 дня назад +1

    The sitting arrangement is not suitable for guest and host that actually distrubing the flow of assimilation of thoughts.

  • @MacSmithVideo
    @MacSmithVideo 21 день назад

    Jesus is this what passes for literature these days?

  • @marimuthuelakkuvan1011
    @marimuthuelakkuvan1011 27 дней назад

    gud

  • @joejoyce8031
    @joejoyce8031 Месяц назад

    I’d hate to see what’s on that guys computer tho lmao

  • @opuskalin8251
    @opuskalin8251 День назад

    Bro, the way you put your feet with shoes on the sofa is so irritating.

  • @thisricardopalma
    @thisricardopalma Месяц назад

    His net worth is not that much. Awards can be deceiving in any industry.

    • @danco9738
      @danco9738 Месяц назад +7

      Net worth doesn't always equal the value of their knowledge

    • @thisricardopalma
      @thisricardopalma Месяц назад

      @@danco9738 that's correct. But these days with A.I. knowdledge is a dime a dozen

  • @sinfall5280
    @sinfall5280 Месяц назад +2

    At some point ..you just gotta stop trying to have conversations about GOD without saying the word GOD and just...go there. Talk about GOD directly. If not, you just end up confusing people.

    • @violentfox
      @violentfox Месяц назад +2

      Not everyone wants to talk fairy tales.

  • @dalandanie_
    @dalandanie_ Месяц назад

    Learned more on this podcast than any college lit class 🥹 thank u for this