A thousand-sided object is a jagged circle in my mind, each individually side labeled as an aspect of a character i.e. Life outlook, how self-aware he is, Career, dreams, opinions, experience, etcetera.
@@intellectually_lazy Oh, boy - do I agree with you! But my comment was for fun. If we are talking about writing - know what you are writing about, let that dictate your characters, let your characters paint what you're writing about, let your characters drive your plot. If it doesn't work, your characters aren't good for your theme. P. S. Theme = Charactes = Plot
From an objective point of view that may be true. From the subjective and authors point of view it is important. And that’s where tension and suspense can be created. Things are not always like they appear. Character A may rescue Character B, who’s in distress and trapped in their house. And you think on the surface, wow, Character A is a hero who’s motive was to save Character B. But really Character A wanted to steal something from Character Bs house. Motivation matters… definitely to the author writing the story and eventually to the reader/watcher when the true motivation is revealed.
That visual of the 1000-sided object is great! Character development can generate a LOT of information, too much to put into a story, and this helps me trust I can pare down in a smart way.
One of my characters wants independence from her family because she views herself as being morally superior to them, but she is also too afraid and reluctant to leave the luxuries of her wealthy household because she sees what the world is like for the poor outside her family's estate. Her stalemate of wants makes writing her character development hard, but your videos have been helping
I'll go to TV world (forgive me). Ron Swanson from Parks and Rec. He has open distain for government and does not think his department should exist. But he treats his workers well and helps them become better workers. So his core decency won't allow him to treat his workers poorly even when they are engaged in a business he hates.
Vito Corleone. A great, intelligent father who was unable to deter his children from entering the life of crime. Instead they entered crime due to him, resulting in one son being gun down, one son being killed by his brother, one son died alone and a daughter who suffer by the son-in-law. Such a great father. A crimelord that was deeply respected by almost all.
when i catch my characters acting uncharacteristically, i ask myself why - i've developed plot and character like this - sometimes it just needs to be changed, but sometimes it turns out there's a reason, it might be the conflict to which you referred, or a motive hidden from the audience, other characters and/or the character themselves, or maybe something else altogether. i know where to look because it nags me, even before i can identify it
i have a character who has real byronic hero energy, another that's pure id, and i think they're both analogous to relatable in their over-the-top ways, but the third character is real co-dependant, comparatively sensible, reliable. i think a lot more people can relate to the third, not so much me, but i do know a lot of people like that
i heart the hell out of duncan idaho, and half-cocked jack, and "jerk-ass" homer. i don't have to like everything they do or agree with their worldviews to love them as great (over-the-top) characters
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A thousand-sided object is a jagged circle in my mind, each individually side labeled as an aspect of a character i.e. Life outlook, how self-aware he is, Career, dreams, opinions, experience, etcetera.
I sorta few a character as a stone that’s been knocked around, thrown from place to place, eroded by rivers and streams. No two stones are alike.
Most diamonds are cut to have 58 facets but we only need to see a dozen or so points of light scattered by one in order to be dazzled.
You are good, never stop writing.
A thousand-sided object -- excellent. Thank you.
5:24 - This very same plot device was used in The Verdict with Paul Newman. It was a very powerful part of the film.
All D&D players can imagine a 20-sided object :D
right, and they make 100 sided dies too, even tho' we all know 2d10 will do the same thing
@@intellectually_lazy Oh, boy - do I agree with you! But my comment was for fun.
If we are talking about writing - know what you are writing about, let that dictate your characters, let your characters paint what you're writing about, let your characters drive your plot.
If it doesn't work, your characters aren't good for your theme.
P. S. Theme = Charactes = Plot
Aristotle said that in Greek Tragedy that motive is not important but rather what will a character do next . That is narrative drive .
Yeah, well, Aristotle is dead, this fella's alive. I'll take the live one.
Aristotle was an idiot. He thought everything could be explained by reasoning and refused to experiment, and he was wrong on pretty much everything.
When it came to his poetics he laid the foundation for aesthetics in the arts . That has never been outdated like his metaphysics and physics .
From an objective point of view that may be true. From the subjective and authors point of view it is important. And that’s where tension and suspense can be created. Things are not always like they appear.
Character A may rescue Character B, who’s in distress and trapped in their house. And you think on the surface, wow, Character A is a hero who’s motive was to save Character B. But really Character A wanted to steal something from Character Bs house. Motivation matters… definitely to the author writing the story and eventually to the reader/watcher when the true motivation is revealed.
@@StepbyStepPhotographyandVideo If this guy were to die, would his opnion suddenly be invalid?
What did you enjoy most about this video?
Confidence man by Melville
the genius at work
That visual of the 1000-sided object is great! Character development can generate a LOT of information, too much to put into a story, and this helps me trust I can pare down in a smart way.
I like gaining insight into character development. It's been a big help with my own series, "D-Storm Journals".
When you said thousand-sided object I thought of a disco ball, a big one
ja, am i the only one who's sick of being told what i can't envision? has anyone ever heard of speak for yourself? don't dictate my experience to me?
Can you think of an example of a character contradiction?
One of my characters wants independence from her family because she views herself as being morally superior to them, but she is also too afraid and reluctant to leave the luxuries of her wealthy household because she sees what the world is like for the poor outside her family's estate. Her stalemate of wants makes writing her character development hard, but your videos have been helping
I'll go to TV world (forgive me). Ron Swanson from Parks and Rec. He has open distain for government and does not think his department should exist. But he treats his workers well and helps them become better workers. So his core decency won't allow him to treat his workers poorly even when they are engaged in a business he hates.
Vito Corleone. A great, intelligent father who was unable to deter his children from entering the life of crime. Instead they entered crime due to him, resulting in one son being gun down, one son being killed by his brother, one son died alone and a daughter who suffer by the son-in-law. Such a great father. A crimelord that was deeply respected by almost all.
Ricky Phitts' Dad in American Beauty Colonel Phitts played by Chris Cooper. He was so anti-gay, but turned out to be gay.
Dr Hannical Lecter. A Psychiatrist who understands the minds of serial killers and he is himself a cannibalistic serial killer.
Great advice!
when i catch my characters acting uncharacteristically, i ask myself why - i've developed plot and character like this - sometimes it just needs to be changed, but sometimes it turns out there's a reason, it might be the conflict to which you referred, or a motive hidden from the audience, other characters and/or the character themselves, or maybe something else altogether. i know where to look because it nags me, even before i can identify it
oh yeah, and i give serious consideration to what rare feedback i do get too. i don't always take the advice, but i seriously consider all of it
i have a character who has real byronic hero energy, another that's pure id, and i think they're both analogous to relatable in their over-the-top ways, but the third character is real co-dependant, comparatively sensible, reliable. i think a lot more people can relate to the third, not so much me, but i do know a lot of people like that
I'm guilty of calling myself simple🤣
Same here!
@@filmcourage i'm one of those complicated women like howard moon is into
This man appreciates the music of Alannis Morissette I'd wager.
Don't we all?
@@wexwuthor1776 not the newspaper editor in reality bites... or bender
I want the Skylar and IT worker story. Can we crowd source to make this happen?
i heart the hell out of duncan idaho, and half-cocked jack, and "jerk-ass" homer. i don't have to like everything they do or agree with their worldviews to love them as great (over-the-top) characters
Yes, I'm a simple person!
i can envision an object with one, and yet infinite sides facing in all directions
it's called a sphere
ja, i keep thinking how much lisa from the room's friends all suck
i really don't think that's what wiseau intended, but who can really tell about that?
and dr. frankenstein is a deadbeat dad, but eh, that might be what mary intended. idk
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This fellow seems to be making things more complicated than they have to be.
How do you develop complex characters?
@@filmcourage I take the more zen approach. Be still and let the muse do what she does best. That's the flow where the story writes itself.
@@jonlittle5032 A story can be complex. The road to writing it doesn't have to be.
Agreed. I’d appreciate more examples if they’re unable to simplify the concept
He takes his craft seriously and puts in a great deal of thought, and asks others to do the same. That is a feature, not a bug.