Triumph Speed 400 vs RE Classic & Hunter 350 - which one should you choose and why? | OVERDRIVE
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- While it’s not an apples to apples comparison, we have pit the Triumph Speed 400 vs the Royal Enfield Classic & Hunter 350 to tell which bike excels at what and which one should you choose. Watch the video to understand our perspective and let us know what you think.
#triumphspeed400 #royalenfieldclassic350 #royalenfieldhunter350
0:00 Introduction
2:00 Why Harley X440 Missing
2:41 Why KTM 390 Duke missing
3:01 Husqvarna Coming soon
3:14 Which one for street presence
5:04 Which one is comfortable to ride
6:55 Which one is best for mountain roads
8:26 Which one is most Fuel Efficient
8:51 Introducing Dominar
10:18 Verdict
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I’m not young at 50 ! Got stunned by Speed 400’s price and made an instant decision to book it it even though I didn’t have any plans for a 3rd bike (after Hero Honda Karizma and Kawi Vulcan S)..
Just did a 150 Km breakfast ride today and I can’t be happier with the overall ride quality (smooth engine, linear power delivery, tractability, agility and handling ), so no more regrets, no more guilt (for my impulse purchase) !
Am @50 took speed400. Enjoying it thoroughly till this moment. Having T100 last 5 years. This is different segmentaltogether.
Am @50 took speed400. Enjoying it thoroughly till this moment. Having T100 last 5 years. This is different segment all together.
@@hugecharm347 Glad to know !
What's the real time mileage.
@@sarmakh8688 32 KMPL
At 5.32, he calls it the Tiger400 🤭 that’s how much a tiger 400 is needed for India.
Tiger 400 in the pipeline for sure. May be in a year they'll have it in their portfolio
A Daytona also hopefully
@@nimithkj123 I don't think Daytona is in the work as an adv tourer is the thing India need right now as most of the people are interested in touring. May be in 5 years after India seeks interest in Moto GP, we may see the sports version as well. Whatever it is Indian 300-400 cc is booming like crazy
Pricing is more important for tiger 400 along with performance
He loves Tigers
Tiger 400? yessir I want that too. But this Speed 400 definitely puts a smile on my face.
What a detailed on the point review....just sweet! ❤
Yes it will increase the size of the market rather than pulling in royal enfield customers.
I cant agree more! amazing script and comparison. So on point.
Excellent review... with great insights. Thanks.😊
Gord
The RE reborn quality is way poor. The bike started corroding within a year.
I want to repaint my Triumph Speed 400. Can you suggest me some unique colors seen in expensive bikes that are suitable for this bike? Please reply!
I had an opportunity to test ride X440 a couple of days back mechanically the bike did not seem to have any issues at all was smooth no hiccups nothing....I confirmed with the Harley salesperson who happens to be a friend that there are rumors that this bike is being recalled(test drive units) for some fueling issue...he told me Hero had this plan even before the media rides were organized and pulling off actually allows them to rework on fit and finish issues and get the real customer feedback so that the first batch that comes out is perfect...the unit that I test rode had its throttle cables clipped this shows Hero is trying desperately to ensure quality
I dont know what all these journalists are talking about they say the quality and fit and finish of RE is good..the welds look like bird poo..side stand creaks..breaks squeal all of this is still in abundance on an RE..they may have improved from a 1/5 to 2/5 in quality..but Triumph is a 5/5 in quality and now they are offering that at similar price to RE..so quality drives up price is no longer an excuse..still i like the REs because of the classic design and the J series engines are excellent..but time to improve quality in fit and finish and cable management RE..
Soo happy with my speed 400
.. light and easy to drive.
You're right about the comparison of the Speed 400 with the first gen Pulsar. This is how the new Pulsar should have looked and that is how I view it. Since most of the engineering man-hours were invested by Bajaj, I think the spirit of the Pulsar is within this bike. I have yet to test ride it, though. My views may change then.
I beg to differ I saw the speed 400 and speed 1200 side by side in the triumph showroom and the design elements are clearly taken from the speed 1200
If Rohit Paradkar says the RE will not feel any dent, then so it is, so basically character and aspirational values are two things which RE does absolutely right.
Rajiv Bajaj hinted the launch of the biggest pulsar by the end of this financial year . Hope it will be most exciting pulsar as well
On what basis, you said that Honda H'ness didn't work? I was planing to buy it in Jan 2024
1:23 - Honda Highness (seems to) not have worked just because of the availability in Bigwing showrooms alone. If they can expand their showroom numbers, it will definitely garner higher sales.
That's correct but Honda service charge and overall motorcycle quality adds to the misery of the people
@@divyambhatia6542 RE are doing the same thing but worse. Have read countless user stories feeling disappointed about the overall quality, service quality(not network), looting people in the name of brand emotion, etc. It's like RE is focused only on selling their products and just don't care about after-sales service. You can tell the difference in how the treatment is when you visit an RE showroom vs the premium feel you get when you visit a Bigwing showroom. If that is the case, I don't mind shelling out a few more bucks for a better service experience (limited network is not a problem for me).
@@divyambhatia6542 RE service charges are also on higher side.
An intelligent well- thoughtout review.
Perfect review ❤
I wonder why the Honda CB 350 Highness was missed out in this comparo...
Still feel Harley x440 have it's seperate fan base, the way it sounds and that torque 🔥
If I were to choose between speed 400 and x440 I would definitely go for the harley. That low end grunt and pull is addictive. And there’s not much choice in that category which also can do speeds like 150 and comes at a below 3 lakh price tag. Only possible con is hero’s built quality and aftersales service.
is the hunter's ground clearance too low ?
I can agree with you when comparing the classic with speed 400, but the Hunter I feel gets replaced by the speed 400 hands down. It is marketably better than the Hunter in every aspect of the bike, albeit it engine tuning which is a preference. Plus it is in the same market segment, modern classic. It's an urban commuter with the chops for your weekend countryside ride. And in that aspect the Speed 400 clearly outclasses the Hunter.
Don't forget the sizeable price difference between hunter and speed 400. That tilts the needle in favour of hunter when taken as an urban commuter/occasional weekend rides segment
So it should be better with price that's over 25% more. I would still take the Hunter if I was looking for a bike for city riding over this pretender
I bought the Hunter regardless of price. Looks better and sounds better. Much more fun than my previous Bonneville T 120.
At 65 am itching to get on the Triumph 400 . Was waiting for a long long time for something along these lines . The Honda Highness did not have me enthused enough to buy it . After having done 150000 kms ++ over a 12 year period from 1984 to 1997 on the Yamaha RD350 was missing something sprightly , zippy and quick. There was no way I was going to look at the baba aadam ka stable of bikes from RE after making them eat dirt on the highways for thevtime that I had the RD350.
I love my 2022 classic 350. If the Hunter was 400cc I would have bought it too. Due to some stupid rules in my country, all sub 400cc bikes arent allowed in the Expressways/Tollways. I can ride Classic 350 only because I slapped a “Classic 500” sticker on it. Websites are saying the Speed400 is gonna be available here in January 2024 but I wouldnt be surprised if it gets delayed to April 2024.
If you don't mind me asking. When you say Expressway,, which country are you referring to? Regards
Are you in the PH too? I agree that the stupid regulations in expressways should be updated.
Wanted to see Honda's cb350 in this comparison
I have rent the RE 350 and Thunderbird 500 during my trips. I own a Jawa 42. It feels soo refreshing when I am back from the trip to ride my Jawa 😍 the power is much more than RE. The ride quality, handling and braking is on another level. The weight balance is off on the RE resulting in poor handling. I can easily feel the difference!
Both engines are different. RE has long stroke engine whereas Jawa / Yezdi has a short stroke engine just like KTM .. RE is torque oriented as Jawa is horsepower.
@@trollface7998 true 💯
8:33 for triumph I dono from where you got those numbers
You should have compared it along with cb350 Rs or cb350 higness
While I quite enjoy riding the bike, it has been an absolute disaster till now owning one. Khivraj Triumph Chennai has been absolute rubbish as well. Valvetrain noise which Khivraj Triumph refused to acknowledge and I had to bring the roof down in the showroom, make a scene and write multiple emails to Bajaj/KTM/Triumph before they sent someone from the factory and replaced the entire head assembly - valves, guides, springs, camshafts, rocker arms and all. They were also quite clueless to the cause and have as of now not bothered to disclose the issue which seems to be prevalent on multiple engines to varying degrees though the rhetoric has been.. Do a 1000 kms and the 1st oil change will make it butter smooth. Yeah right. I was born yesterday. Some examples are smooth and refined (esp the ones put on test ride duty) and some are pure garbage and need some serious intervention like mine. Now the cone set has failed and is awaiting replacement (parts are shared with the pulsar NS, yes the part nos match). The bike was delivered with a dent on the tank (tank replaced on Day 1), the odd nuts and bolts loose (exhaust header, exhaust heat shields etc), no coolant in the reservoir, scratch on the instrument console (the buggers wipe it with the same soiled cloth they use to clean the wheels and other muck on delivery day and there were too many other problems to deal with to really fuss about this scratch on day 1), bubbling paint on the headlight rim (awaiting replacement next), bar end mirrors not torqued properly that they would keep spinning around the bar, tyre pressures set to 36PSI front and back (Reco is 26 and 33 respectively) and almost zero fuel in the tank (gauge was not showing a single bar). Talking about fuel and tank, the fuel gauge has a mind of its own. I've owned the 1st gen Caliber, Eliminator 175, Pulsar 200 2nd gen DTSi, Avenger 200 Oil Cooled, 1st gen KTM Duke 200, 2nd Gen KTM Duke 390 all from the Bajaj stable and never faced such issues either with upfront quality or the service center listening to your issues. Put a Triumph sticker on it and they believe the name overshadows crappy quality levels and even crappier service support from Khivraj Triumph Chennai. A huge no of parts are from the Bajaj stable ... yes... part nos match for a huge bunch of components. This bike is an amalgamation of the Duke, Dominar, Pulsars, Avengers and others. Nothing bad about that. Keeps cost down. But stop pretending that this has come all the way from Hinckley. They need to sort the bike out and their dealers out more before people start seeing it for what it really is. I still like the bike tho. Just wish the support was something to crow about.
I used to ride both the Classic 350 and and Bonneville T100 in UK, but trust me, Whenever i pull out the Classic 350 for a spin, People go gaga over it irrepective of their age or gender...
Can i please ask what bike jacket the presenter is rocking?
ROYAL ENFIELD Alpinestars collection. Its ~17k
Comparing two RE with triumph, could have chosen cb350
Rather go for Honda CB350, beautiful machine + a reliable work horse ❤🔥❤🔥‼️‼️🌟
why no one is including cb350rs in comparison?🤔
Guess it's price ?
Speed 400. .. triumph man triumph
I'm manifesting for speed 400 11:11 😇
I will choose cb350 just cauz it had courage to show middle finger to all mainstream auto journalists cartel of India...that to this date it is always given the big "ignore"..
+1, 100% agreed
That bike is a piece of sh*t...doesn't even feel like riding a bike...extremely smooth....it doesn't have the soul like the RE bikes do
i would go for hraley x440
the enfields have used extra weight to their advantage in terms of excellent stability, even the smaller hunter is heavier and more solidly built than speed 400, so even with less engine power they actually are very practical and safer alternative to speed.
RE is better built than Triumph!!.. Wah kya baat hei!! 😛
Indians pls support indian products ... 🤦
@@pravinmurthy all that glitters is not gold
@@leninashok8714bruh sho who told you RE is an indian brand ?
Sounds like some typical "RE is an emotion" fanboy BS.
I can tell you which one I wouldn't have and that's the "Triumph" 400. This bike has very little to do with the Triumph brand and is merely there to fill a gap in their line up. Triumph are a spiteful company that are bitter about the Royal Enfield taking away a large proportion of their classic model line up. Trust me when this thing needs attention you will be looked down upon by the snobbish staff that they now employ at their dealerships. Triumph have lost touch with their customer base and the saddest thing of it all is that they don't even understand why
What's hunter doing here!
RE forever ❤❤❤❤❤
Your review is all balls! Ball talk because your afraid to say anything bad about RE. The 350 Classic struggles to scale the ghats with 2 up. So much for a touring mc!
What kind of comparison is this 🤣🤣
High revving short stroke DOHC with two Long stroke ohc engines instead you could have taken Highness
Triumph among all these bikes doesn't makes sense its from a different category
Speed 400 the Real Boss
I was much more inclined towards speed but scrambler is another beast in handling everything at once.
Being my first bike I believe its the best option easy to learn easy to drive and has good amount of fun plus more to offer than speed 400.
why did you even consider hunter for this comparison?? it should've been just the classic vs the speed! hunter doesn't belind here
Speed400 mileage 28km/ltr
300 to 400 tranding cc in india right now
Biased opinion towards hunter 350
Speed400 reminds me Original Pulsar 180, which I still have in running condition, infact I think it is still better than this Triumph
CB350RS is an amazingly refined bike. It can eat the Triumph 400 for breakfast, lunch & dinner when it comes to in-city efficiency & touring performance. Very rev happy motor.
No jokes please. I also like Honda and have driven hness and 350R. Speed 400 is a monster. Looks deceive. After 130km/hr cb350 sucks. You can just cruise at 140 in speed 400. It's acceleration is 0 to 60 in 2.5 seconds. 0 to 100 is 6.5 seconds. Fit and finish, build quality is top notch. The only motorcycle that made me smile in the last few years is speed 400. I have driven from yezdi, jawa, RE to Duke, bmw, Harley. Nothing comes close to Triumph Speed 400
Speed 400 is far better than RE , you reviewers are just baised towards RE
its a no brainer....
25kmpl on triumph 400 will discourage many owners to travel less . Ktm excels in performance for same fuel consumption.
Honda hness and rs are way better than royal Enfield
Not enough Power the RE....
Honda CB350. What a bike.
Kuch bhi comparison
And the winner is…the BMW G310GS. 👍
All three bikes are useless. Hero Splendor and Activa is the best.
@@mylordplease CB300F owner here.
Any particular reason beside mileage ?
@@lordsixth5944 Heating issues, comfort issues, heavy weight, spare parts issues (Speed 400), and it's hard to get these bikes repaired outside of city.
Needless comparison. Though would've watched if it was a Harley instead of the Triumph.
Triumph is bajaj... end of story rest my case ..
Take it for a ride then comment if it’s a Bajaj or not. By this logic every iPhone is an assembled device with various components manufactured by various manufacturers.
Average Re Fan boy
Re quality is very poor
Harley x440 is the best bike in the market right now trust me
Nah it isn't. It isn't even the second best
It's a hero bike with Harley logo , Harley Davidson ki koi feel hi nhi aati hy ussey