@@fpjesus2000 This isn't for proving the effectiveness of techniques against an aggravated but skilled opponent instead of someone who just stands there and takes instructions? Well I guess I'll be able to stop some bozo from stabbing me but some guy who took a month of MMA can stab me 👍
@@etagged Ok so: "Duel" sports such MMA are worlds apart from a street/life-or-death (or bad injury) situation. The mindset is just pretty much the complete opposite. People have this obsession that you need sparring to "prove" the effectiveness of any combat system. Reality is, if you find yourself in a situation where you're being attacked on the street, that will look absolutely nothing at all like a round of sparring does. Someone with the intention to hurt you is not going to square up, get their guard up and stand just outside your striking ranges. They're going to go in and commit to one strong blow. Combat sports are rational - fighters go in with a strategy, caution and composure, usually with nothing but respect for their opponent. Getting attacked on the street will be either an emotional response out of anger or a desperate attempt at stealing from you. And guess what, a very angry dude is just irrationally gonna throw a haymaker, not strategise on how to defeat you in a duel setting. The point of this kind of systems is that you want to build the reflexes and muscle memory to avoid getting hit and hit back almost simultaneously, and hopefully incapacitate the attacker for long enough to just get the fuck out of there or move on to the next attacker. If you are in situations where you get into an all out duel fight outside of a gym, you should ask yourself why the fuck you have even allowed that to happen. In that case, the solution is to just throw something at them and run away as fast as you can. If you are ever at "sparring range", you are essentially at "run the fuck away from there" range. Not to mention that there is a high likelihood that in a situation like that, you'd get jumped from the back by one of his mates while you're focusing on your "duel" vs the hypothetical MMA guy. Another fact is that statistically speaking, if you get attacked on the street, the likelihood of the attacker being a trained fighter is slim to none. Mostly it's drug addicts and drunks, really. Systems like these (Kali e.t.c), if taught properly with the right intensity, mindset and intension, tackles this kind of "bar fight" style attacks/altercations, where you really don't know where the next hit is going to be coming from, and random objects/weapons could be involved. If you plan to go and provoke one-on-one fights with random dudes on the street, then MMA is definitely more suitable. I know this was a long rambling text but I do think this is something that everyone involved in martial arts/combat sports should have a think about.
@@fpjesus2000 1) mma is nothing like street fighting - wrong. Bruce Lee said that the problem with traditional martial arts is that they don’t incorporate full out sparring (which can be 10 sec’s btw, they just have to be all out). I was a loss prevention officer who arrested shoplifters, my wrestling background was invaluable. The stress of sparring actually changes the nature of the techniques you use, the fallacy is that they look different so they’re not integral to each other. 2) running - if you’re going to run, join a running group, don’t waste your time with JKD. The argument that you need a martial art to hit the opponent once so you can run away is misguided. If you think you need to train years and years to whack an unsuspecting person so you can run away - you don’t. 3) the attacker - this might have been true decades ago, but now learning how to fight on RUclips or in hopping into a gym for fun is much more common. There are many videos on the internet now of people with skills street fighting. Even if it is statistically rare.. do you want to take that chance? That who the person is dictates how safe you feel? I know a double or a single leg will work on every human being on the planet, that reduction of anxiety is the start of my self-defense.
@@etagged Ok 1) I feel like I have made my point clear, so go in more detail here but no sparring is really "all out". You are training for a sport scenario. If you're talking about literally trying to kill or seriously injure your training partner in training, well I have not heard of that being done anywhere. Not many would be interested in that I'm pretty sure. 2) That's not how it works. If you physically cannot run from a situation, that's where all this comes in - essentially a last resort. If you randomly get hit or jumped by someone without expecting it, you need to have the reflex to defend and strike back quickly, just so you can get to safety. Ego should not be a factor, even if you're certain that you can easily take this guy on and knock him out or take him down, you never know what is going to happen (like the guy stabbing you without you even realising) or who is around you, and what their intentions are. If you're willingly going into or staying in a fight when you have the opportunity to simply get out of there, you're just putting yourself in unnecessary danger, no matter how skilled you are. If that is something you like, I don't fault you and can almost say I understand you, but what if while you were wrestling one of those shoplifters to incapacitate him, his buddy sneaked up on you and hit you on the back of the head with a baseball bat? What if he suddenly pulled a knife from his back pocket and stabbed you while you're struggling on the floor or locking him up? In these circumstances, you are never really safe. And I also think you are misunderstanding a big appeal of this kind of systems - you train for years out of interest, passion, self-development, coordination and fitness and a drive to learn just as much as you train to protect yourself. If one was to train this stuff and their single goal was to solely protect themselves effectively, training would look very different and would not be as enjoyable for many. There is a cultural side to it as well. 3) While it is true that it is more common that someone will have some kind of training these days, it is significantly more likely that they will have a knife or some kind of weapon, for instance. If you are street fighting in any way, you are *always* taking a massive risk, regardless of whether you're fighting Mike Tyson or a random druggie looking for cash to score their next dose. While in a sport-setting, I would surely dominate the druggie but get knocked out in 5s by Tyson. Training in martial arts does mitigate the risk of serious injury, but no matter how good you are - a serious situation is not a duel nor a sport. You are always at a high risk, and just have to do your best to avoid injury or even death. A lot of that also comes from awareness and knowing when you can get out. A proper single or double leg takedown will definitely work on the vast majority of people, but are you really sure you want to be tying yourself down to one guy, when his mate could be right behind you kicking you in the head? There is a bigger picture to this whole thing than "I know I can definitely take down 99% of people". Please know I am not just talking out of my ass either, while I am by no means an expert I do have quite relevant experience in both Kali (and similar systems) as well as in Savate (essentially kickboxing) and Sambo (the place I train at delivers this stuff as complements to each other which is quite interesting). Generally what I have realised is that in a street scenario, grappling in almost any form is extremely dangerous and should almost always be reserved for sports or controlled fighting. Not to say you will always get hurt if you grapple on the street - but you are certainly in an incredibly high risk for that to happen. Also, don't think I'm trying to be disrespectful - I really am not. I do understand your points too and do agree with some stuff. But for a lot of it I do have to respectfully disagree. I have enjoyed thinking about the other side of this though! If you're interested, I recommend checking out a guy called Maul Mornie - he is a Silat guy and has a lot of instructional videos around YT. I have personally trained with him myself and the guy is absolutely deadly, and his philosophy on all this is great as well. I will try to find a specific video I remember of him talking about something similar and link it. Take care,
It's all right but almost useless. Why? Because it's not practiced in real sparring. This means that there is not, and never will be, a sustainable skill in applying such traumatic techniques. The world has not invented a methodology for preparing for such sparring and the rules for conducting them. Nowhere. That is why it is all correct, beautiful but almost useless.
@Tony I spent many years in Pekiti Tirsiya Kali. And now I'm on the subject🤗. Don't waste your time. You had better take off your rose-coloured glasses and take a critical look at the whole thing.
@Tony You and your kind don't understand anything. You are doing the Kali thing, which has already become a bad sport. All your sparring is entirely sporting. Any boxer or Thai boxer would knock out anyone who does Kali very quickly. But you don't understand that because you don't understand at all what I wrote about sparring.Repeat for fools like you. There is no technique in the world that allows you to use in a sparring most of the techniques that are in the OLD KALI. Nowhere in the world. :)))) And instead of developing one, you're wasting your time on sports nonsense.
@Tony английский (Соединённое Королевство) And any normal athlete who practices fencing - sabre, epee - will slaughter any Kali practitioner in five seconds if you use a long edged weapon.
Quick physical reactions or reflexes and good timing are essential to pull this off in an actual fight or self-defense scenario
I like his footwork, body motion, and blocks
Great job, Kevin!!!! Happy new year, my friend!!!
Thank you! Happy New Year!
Very good techques
Happy New Year,
Master Lee.
Happy New Year to you too!!
Do you have any videos of sparring matches with a practitioner from another martial art?
That ain’t what this is for
@@fpjesus2000 This isn't for proving the effectiveness of techniques against an aggravated but skilled opponent instead of someone who just stands there and takes instructions? Well I guess I'll be able to stop some bozo from stabbing me but some guy who took a month of MMA can stab me 👍
@@etagged Ok so: "Duel" sports such MMA are worlds apart from a street/life-or-death (or bad injury) situation. The mindset is just pretty much the complete opposite. People have this obsession that you need sparring to "prove" the effectiveness of any combat system. Reality is, if you find yourself in a situation where you're being attacked on the street, that will look absolutely nothing at all like a round of sparring does. Someone with the intention to hurt you is not going to square up, get their guard up and stand just outside your striking ranges. They're going to go in and commit to one strong blow. Combat sports are rational - fighters go in with a strategy, caution and composure, usually with nothing but respect for their opponent. Getting attacked on the street will be either an emotional response out of anger or a desperate attempt at stealing from you. And guess what, a very angry dude is just irrationally gonna throw a haymaker, not strategise on how to defeat you in a duel setting.
The point of this kind of systems is that you want to build the reflexes and muscle memory to avoid getting hit and hit back almost simultaneously, and hopefully incapacitate the attacker for long enough to just get the fuck out of there or move on to the next attacker. If you are in situations where you get into an all out duel fight outside of a gym, you should ask yourself why the fuck you have even allowed that to happen. In that case, the solution is to just throw something at them and run away as fast as you can. If you are ever at "sparring range", you are essentially at "run the fuck away from there" range. Not to mention that there is a high likelihood that in a situation like that, you'd get jumped from the back by one of his mates while you're focusing on your "duel" vs the hypothetical MMA guy.
Another fact is that statistically speaking, if you get attacked on the street, the likelihood of the attacker being a trained fighter is slim to none. Mostly it's drug addicts and drunks, really. Systems like these (Kali e.t.c), if taught properly with the right intensity, mindset and intension, tackles this kind of "bar fight" style attacks/altercations, where you really don't know where the next hit is going to be coming from, and random objects/weapons could be involved. If you plan to go and provoke one-on-one fights with random dudes on the street, then MMA is definitely more suitable.
I know this was a long rambling text but I do think this is something that everyone involved in martial arts/combat sports should have a think about.
@@fpjesus2000 1) mma is nothing like street fighting - wrong. Bruce Lee said that the problem with traditional martial arts is that they don’t incorporate full out sparring (which can be 10 sec’s btw, they just have to be all out). I was a loss prevention officer who arrested shoplifters, my wrestling background was invaluable. The stress of sparring actually changes the nature of the techniques you use, the fallacy is that they look different so they’re not integral to each other.
2) running - if you’re going to run, join a running group, don’t waste your time with JKD. The argument that you need a martial art to hit the opponent once so you can run away is misguided. If you think you need to train years and years to whack an unsuspecting person so you can run away - you don’t.
3) the attacker - this might have been true decades ago, but now learning how to fight on RUclips or in hopping into a gym for fun is much more common. There are many videos on the internet now of people with skills street fighting. Even if it is statistically rare.. do you want to take that chance? That who the person is dictates how safe you feel? I know a double or a single leg will work on every human being on the planet, that reduction of anxiety is the start of my self-defense.
@@etagged Ok 1) I feel like I have made my point clear, so go in more detail here but no sparring is really "all out". You are training for a sport scenario. If you're talking about literally trying to kill or seriously injure your training partner in training, well I have not heard of that being done anywhere. Not many would be interested in that I'm pretty sure.
2) That's not how it works. If you physically cannot run from a situation, that's where all this comes in - essentially a last resort. If you randomly get hit or jumped by someone without expecting it, you need to have the reflex to defend and strike back quickly, just so you can get to safety. Ego should not be a factor, even if you're certain that you can easily take this guy on and knock him out or take him down, you never know what is going to happen (like the guy stabbing you without you even realising) or who is around you, and what their intentions are. If you're willingly going into or staying in a fight when you have the opportunity to simply get out of there, you're just putting yourself in unnecessary danger, no matter how skilled you are. If that is something you like, I don't fault you and can almost say I understand you, but what if while you were wrestling one of those shoplifters to incapacitate him, his buddy sneaked up on you and hit you on the back of the head with a baseball bat? What if he suddenly pulled a knife from his back pocket and stabbed you while you're struggling on the floor or locking him up? In these circumstances, you are never really safe.
And I also think you are misunderstanding a big appeal of this kind of systems - you train for years out of interest, passion, self-development, coordination and fitness and a drive to learn just as much as you train to protect yourself. If one was to train this stuff and their single goal was to solely protect themselves effectively, training would look very different and would not be as enjoyable for many. There is a cultural side to it as well.
3) While it is true that it is more common that someone will have some kind of training these days, it is significantly more likely that they will have a knife or some kind of weapon, for instance. If you are street fighting in any way, you are *always* taking a massive risk, regardless of whether you're fighting Mike Tyson or a random druggie looking for cash to score their next dose. While in a sport-setting, I would surely dominate the druggie but get knocked out in 5s by Tyson. Training in martial arts does mitigate the risk of serious injury, but no matter how good you are - a serious situation is not a duel nor a sport. You are always at a high risk, and just have to do your best to avoid injury or even death. A lot of that also comes from awareness and knowing when you can get out. A proper single or double leg takedown will definitely work on the vast majority of people, but are you really sure you want to be tying yourself down to one guy, when his mate could be right behind you kicking you in the head? There is a bigger picture to this whole thing than "I know I can definitely take down 99% of people".
Please know I am not just talking out of my ass either, while I am by no means an expert I do have quite relevant experience in both Kali (and similar systems) as well as in Savate (essentially kickboxing) and Sambo (the place I train at delivers this stuff as complements to each other which is quite interesting).
Generally what I have realised is that in a street scenario, grappling in almost any form is extremely dangerous and should almost always be reserved for sports or controlled fighting. Not to say you will always get hurt if you grapple on the street - but you are certainly in an incredibly high risk for that to happen.
Also, don't think I'm trying to be disrespectful - I really am not. I do understand your points too and do agree with some stuff. But for a lot of it I do have to respectfully disagree. I have enjoyed thinking about the other side of this though! If you're interested, I recommend checking out a guy called Maul Mornie - he is a Silat guy and has a lot of instructional videos around YT. I have personally trained with him myself and the guy is absolutely deadly, and his philosophy on all this is great as well. I will try to find a specific video I remember of him talking about something similar and link it.
Take care,
from dose pares moves its similar to pangamot and panantukan
Thank you Mr. Lee. Excellent video, sir. If I may ask where you got the forearm protector?
Thank you! I got it a very long time ago from Lameco Kali. But I don’t know if they still make it.
Hey Kev, are you an actor ? You seem real familiar.. hm
thanks a lot!!
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Translation for the word gunting in filipino is scissors
It's all right but almost useless. Why? Because it's not practiced in real sparring. This means that there is not, and never will be, a sustainable skill in applying such traumatic techniques. The world has not invented a methodology for preparing for such sparring and the rules for conducting them. Nowhere. That is why it is all correct, beautiful but almost useless.
Tell that to the filipinos killing spaniards in the jungle doing this shit lol
@Tony 😂This is not an answer, this is empty emotion and nothing more.
@Tony I spent many years in Pekiti Tirsiya Kali. And now I'm on the subject🤗. Don't waste your time. You had better take off your rose-coloured glasses and take a critical look at the whole thing.
@Tony You and your kind don't understand anything. You are doing the Kali thing, which has already become a bad sport. All your sparring is entirely sporting. Any boxer or Thai boxer would knock out anyone who does Kali very quickly. But you don't understand that because you don't understand at all what I wrote about sparring.Repeat for fools like you. There is no technique in the world that allows you to use in a sparring most of the techniques that are in the OLD KALI. Nowhere in the world. :)))) And instead of developing one, you're wasting your time on sports nonsense.
@Tony английский (Соединённое Королевство)
And any normal athlete who practices fencing - sabre, epee - will slaughter any Kali practitioner in five seconds if you use a long edged weapon.