Is Kali Good For Knife Defense?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Today I am having a discussion with Coach Danny Terrell to see if Kali is good for knife defense. Please let me know what you think in the comment below!
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What do you think is effective for knife defense?🤔🤔
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Pepper spray.
Ask Ryan hoover or Craig douglas
a .45 and about 10 ft. of distance.. I've got 40 years experience in all this mess-- in jungles, in gangland areas, and military all over-- and it doesn't matter HOW freakishly good you might be-- in a knife deal- you WILL GET CUT-- I've been in several involving a knife- and I survived and WON-- but YES I still got cut. I'm not talking legalities-- if that person has a knife- and you're empty hand- you are justified-- PERIOD. Forget the damn law-- you can get out of jail easier than you can get out of a 6ft. hole!!!
Well the things, that were said there sounded like the principles of wing chun
His brand of Kali is a no nonsense style of modern Kali. Effective and good usage of angles.
Cody broussard here, long time student of SiFu Danny, tell him I said hello!!!
if you know your weapon well, even a kali on a knife fighting wont be effective, kali will give you a time to survive, until you found a weapon equal to your opponent or above the level of what he is using.
Is kali good for anything? 🤔
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Yes, but it has to be trained just as intensive as an athlete trains sports such as Boxing, Greco-Roman Wrestling, Fencing, la canne, kendo, arnis, kalinda, single-stick. The main thing is to gain experience by competing in stickfighting as many rule sets as possible along with fencing & boxing if you want to actually use these arts. When I learned it was with rolled newspapers, switches, spatula with flipflops stuck to it then bamboo which is less dense than rattan. It wasn't until I was in my 20s that I was training and completing with rattan. Train how you compete & fight.
If you wanna go to jail faster. Since it ain't a martial arts for self defense. It's a killing art.
@@kevionrogers2605 explain to me how Bruce lee was so good when it’s actually well known he didn’t mix martial arts, regardless if he trained in quite a few? JKD is not mma.
@@axelstone3131 I'm not a JKD practioner. My training with JKD instructors was specifically in Kali. My base martial art was Cardojitsu (USA Goju with Judo) thru Amato's Karate & Weapons followed by Tiger Schulmann's Martial Arts (Kickboxing with Jiujitsu). My focus was Judo & Gracie Jiujitsu. The FMA styles I put the most time in are
Kuntaw Kali Kruzada, Inosanto, Ilustrisimo, Sayoc Kali, FCS, PTK. My striking is primarily Kickboxing & Goju-ryu.
No, because kali is not a self defense martial arts. It's a killing art. It is designed to kill the opponent the quickest possible time. That is why it is primarily based using weapons.
Well stated.
I've seen it used in a real street fight here in the phils a long time ago it was spectacular..knife vs FMA,knife guy attacks like a madman the FMA guy redirects the knife like it was nothing it happened so fast i coud not believe the FMA guy walks away without a scratch if it was a normal guy it would a horrible scene..
Definitely agree with what you said about the FMA guy.
I fail to see why it would be a horrible scene if it was an average guy.
Balanced and intelligent. This does not belong on the internet 🤣
I liked that the grip is not on the wrist but on the hand itself. Focusing on the wrist, as mentioned, does not limit the rotation of the hand and therefore the knife can still cut you. This mistake is quite common in general teaching of self defense against knives when "instructors" only half learn the technique and think that's how they should teach it.
I also liked the emphasis on mobility and hitting rather than just control. Those have always seemed underrated to me. That is, if you have the opponent under control and within reach, what stops you from attacking the face, the eyes, for example?
Excellent video.
AMEN- and a quick way to get your OWN wrist slit!!!
knife holder - just jam the knife point up into his forearm, he WILL immediately let go of the grip!
This is a great reminder of what to do when defending against a knife… As Krav Maga instructor… I appreciate this video for refreshing my memory… 💪🏾💪🏾 Love it
Thanks for demo, guro! You emphasized the importance of footwork, as the filippinos are saying: " your hands beat the enemy, but your feet save your life!"
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Absolutely love this. It's not fancy. Evade, getting off the line, the stun, this is all solid information. When you see these fancy disarms or people charging in grappling, they're going to be in the ER if they're lucky enough to make it that far. Distance and timing and actually practice this ish. And most importantly carry an equalizer a gun or knife yourself, unarmed knife defense is a fast track to the cemetery.
All you need to do with an attacker with a blade is run away. If you stand and fight, you're a moron and you deserve what happens to you.
Love Sifu Danny Terrel! He is far and away the best instructor I've ever worked with. In his classes, he has such a keen sense for when he can turn a drill into a limit-testing, humbling moment. We were working some wrestling drills, a mount escape, I think. Sifu shut my escape down and simply put his hands on my throat--not an especially effective attack. But, at that point in my training, I wasn't able to respond to the visceral stress response and completely failed to defend myself. He knew he could (safely) present that test, going off the script, and gave me the chance to humble myself.
To this day, I remember (with confidence) many ways to escape that (admittedly ineffective) attack. Collapsing the arms, levering one arm at the elbows...
Such a knowledgeable teacher with an incredible eye for testing limits and facilitating breakthroughs.
Guro for Kali not Sifu
how about.. try to selfdefense from a real situation knife attack
Very consistent to almost all who teach kali... run, escape or evade. Very true. Engaging only happens on very specific situation where one could not evade, run or escape. Even then, the next option is truly to get another weapon. And if all else fails, only then you apply the techniques in close combat.
Guru Danny is amazing, thankyou for sharing and inspiring us all to train hard and smart
One of the most advanced technologies for knife is the Filipino Martial Arts. Proven. Battle tested and respected by people who know.
Misdirecting the arm is useless. Just like all other knife defence techniques. Don't listen to this BS. Regardless of how skilled you are, 99% of people who are in a knife fight don't even know the other guy has a knife until they are stabbed several times because the knife was concealed.
Learn to read body language, improve your situational awareness, so you can prevent this situation in the first place, and of course learn to run.
Kali is the 2nd most effective against a blade. The number one most effective is running away fast. Build up that cardio and improve your sprint and that blade will never touch you
90% of knife attacks, the attacker grabs to get leverage.
I could see Kevin was itching to grab a few times.
People don't realize kali will make any art better. What most never see is the little things matter the most. They can only be taught with a very good instructor.
What the clowns on RUclips don't understand watching a video doesn't give you enough to bad mouth something. Funny thing it's usually jujitsu guys that should understand feeling is showing.
I've watched countless idiots bad mouth knife defenses then show you they don't have a clue what their talking about.
That to me is all the evidence you need to prove BJJ isn't a self defense. They teach so many things that will get you killed. Going to the ground in the hood will get you brain stomped.
The fact that these people who bad mouth knife defence always seam to spout out one of a handful of quotes no matter how irrelevant they are in the context of the question/video - often with the exact same words that have been used elsewhere says all you need to know which is most of them don't know what they are talking about.
The way i see most kali systems is basically fencing with knives,all about keeping distance and maintaining control while trying to dish out punishing attacks,the second you get close thats when your going to get cut almost no Matter what
Pekiti Trisia is very a very good discipline for blades stuff... Thanks Guro Danny
people don't really hand switch on knife fighting, you would think they would, but they don't.
You can tell he's a GREAT teacher, because he starts with very slow basics, and as the video progresses and he gets comfortable, he starts showing some lighting fast sparks of true Kali. Great video.
Great lesson on defending against the knife ❤
You can tell Kevin's arm is sore by the end of this.
"Legally justified" is definitely NOT #1.
I'd rather be alive in prison than dead.
As someone whose been in prison for third party defense I disagree.
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No you don't.
You'd have killed yourself if you did.
What ever your knife training - you also need need to spar at speed and intent (with safe training knife and protective gear) and a judge.
I could not make that Corte/medio stuff work in free fighting, largo works! I discovered Lastra Arnis and things changed. Weapons work tools make things easier.
Such a great video. And I love how "careful" you where when picking up the knife in the end, not breaking eyecontact.
Having just watched the knife episode of the ultimate self defence challenge there stuff here id like to see in that context.
You'll never see a Kali guro in that competition because they'd be exposed and lose their hustle.
I train in kali, for many years, (mostly heaven and earth Drills on trees), and for the last 8 years Kutao silat Forms. Don't have anyone to spar against, so i use the biorhythms of music to help my sensitivity. if someone has a blade, i feel the need to have a stick, chain, or even a bottle, or some great track shoes, knives are no joke.
I’ve known you a long while now Kevin! Your videos are always on point. Keep making our lineage proud!🙏🙌🙌
I would never want to be fighting against a Kali master or practioner... those guys are always armed and ready to ruin your arm.
Lol oh Kev Kev, you should know anyone dedicated to FMA always has a blade somewhere.
OK, Gentlemen,
How about making levels at first least by moverments:
-Beginners, -say distance ,
- intermediate -sideways and
-Advanced - active interception.
But , keeping to the beginnersś position, what I missed most is not employing environmental weaopons, if nothing a walking stink , umbrella, handbak, suitcase or an overcoat, etc.
Best regards. Paul, 67,retired isntructor fo Karate
of course it is, Kali or FMA is bladed style..they do incorporate suntukan, sikaran and dumog for hand to hand. They also have stick and staff as weapons..
I learned arnis in school here in the Philippines our guro always teach if we encounter knife always run if theres no chance fight them our guro teach us outside school with knife fighting and hand to hand combat.
Someone show this clip to all the people of Louisiana This guy is insane ! in all the good ways ofc
The reason grappling arts like wrestling or Jiu jitsu touch on knife defense( If it’s not the usual Jiu jitsu self defense ) is because people who willingly attack people with knives usually grab you. If that person knows how to grapple and you don’t, you’re not gonna create distance. That’s why they “fight the knife”. It’s not about where you wanna be with an armed person, it’s about where they put you. Create distance from any physical altercation, that’s self defense. Learn to fight, that’s combat sports.
I saw one stabbing, it was horrible. Dude held on to the victims clothing and just poked him a bunch of times in a frantic spastic way.
I also notice in all these demos the other limbs are dead, he's not trying to hit, grab and kick while stabbing.
I also notice the same bullshit, what if glass on the ground? If any other Martial art said this they would be laughed at.
He's trying to kill me? Why am I worried about broken glass on the ground?
Multiple people? Yea this isn't going to work either, you're fucked.
@@RAPEDBYBLACKS... I've seen numerous in the penitentiary and many happened the way you described.
BTW: Your RUclips account name is quite disturbing. I hope you didn't suffer such an atrocity.
THANK YOU for mentioning the LAW during a knife lesson!!!!
Needless to say that all these moves require fine motor skills that will never work under adrenaline rush at 160+ pulses per second.
Also known as “green moves”, because of the colour of the dollar.
Just stay away from these nonsense, if you are interested in real self defence.
The Guru is right, especially considering that you're already stabbed or cut by the time you know you're being attacked!
Again and again. I can't say it often enough: you can not defend Knife Attacks with Blocks. If someone Attack you and you have not the Option to run, train to do Sidesteps and direct Attack then The Agressor to The Eyes, Throat, outside of Knee etc.pp. But the most important Thing is, train again and again and again non complicatet Things and train How to not become The Fear
None of that is any good with a trained knife fighter, your gonna get cut. But your move backed up against the wall was better. Don’t ever assume a person with a knife don’t know how to use it. And whatever happened to low kicks, a leg break will slow him down, but the knife welder can kick you while your trying to control the knife hand. Speed is everything, and lots of training. I’ve got 68 years in the arts and I still train.
This old guy is smart... Though in a face to face and I am the knife guy, I usually target the arms and wrist if I can and kinda do a jab slash stroke... Hopefully those that has experience can correct my way cause I want to learn more...
Wouldn't it be more cheaper to learn Drumming? Percussion for concussion! Just learn how to do Van Halen's "Hot for Teacher" Drum intro, and carry chopsticks with you.
Great video! Thanks for being a great martial artist Kevin.
I can 100% agree with this. I train Kali Sikaran International with Johan Skålberg. Very similar ideas!
Here's something noone will tell you about real kali fights. Old kali masters always carry chili powder, pepper powder or even a small baggy of talcom powder in their pockets. If they have none, they always go for dirt to target the opponents eyes or at the least aim at the forehead area. my lolo (granpa) even told me, he bit his own lip to use his own blood to spray his opponents face. Then he picked a stone and threw it at his opponent.
My point is this, kali is not all about techniques. Look at yout surrounding and make calculation to use it at some point to your advantage or as an exit point.
Good video, and lots of good common sense information. My only added information would be utilize what's in your environment to not only create and maintain distance, but also create obstacles and barriers helping you maintain distance; or see what is available to turn into an improvised combative tool, that would allow you to damage their arms (thus they lose the ability to hold and utilize the weapon), their legs (thus they lose the ability to close distance), and of course their head (thus by becoming unconscious or at least disoriented (thus they lose the ability to continue the attack fully, or at least continue the attack effectively). Hence giving you increased chances to get away.
This is done by adrenaline when you are attached ,no need to learn
looks like aikido ... aikido could benefit from the kali drills because we do the things after the drills
It isn't.
Best cell defense is what hes saying keep your distance do short attack attack and then get away after you do a short attack that has The person with the knife backing off.
What I have seen, not... Kali is good for attacking with the knife, not for knife defense.. But I need to watch the video...
Against powerful fast retracting knife attacks, switching, it wont work
That was pretty awesome hell yeah and yes an attacker with or without a weapon is dangerous and it's scary people may not want to admit it but training is one thing having fun on all that but when somebody seriously wants to hurt you for real it makes you feel different you move different you breathe different because now you understand I'm in danger even if it's just beating getting beat up or just getting punched once or twice you don't know what those hits are going to do what they're going to do after those hits so it is scary
Big man with various martial art practice is a tank. FMA has long history in war times.
what if you dont have a weapon? we learn a defence against switching hand
The very 1st rule and the most basic of knife defense in kali is to run away.
that looks very usable., pretty sumilar to Wing Chun.
Excellent instruction! Thank you for sharing this, Kali Rocks!
there isnt any effective empty handed knife defenses out there
Thank you Kevin Lee in my opinion that is reality blend of life time of knowledge🙏🙏
I am no fan of kali, but what he said was just right. A lot of MMA (jiujitsu guys) think that grappling is much more effective in the real world. In all honesty, Jiujitsu is good in 1 on 1 but you can grapple 2 to 3 opponents all at the same time, and I think having a martial arts like Kali can actually be effective in multiple attackers, then again use kali not the traditional arts but try to incorporate different styles that is more pragmatic rather than looking fancy.
yes thats the modification
I don't know where you saw or who showned/taught you Kali but the Kali I know is simple n' direct.. It's not the Art that makes you a good/bad fighter, it's the person. Same thing with teaching, The art is not what makes it a "Mc Dojo", it's the teacher.. There are no bad students, only bad teacher's.. That applies to life in general, with your own life, kids, pets, work, etc.. I'm a Chef, and I've seen/met Chef's who claimed to have been taught n' trained by certain Chef's but turns out to be idiots!!
Bjj isnt for bringing street fights to the ground, but for helping you get up when you are forced to the ground. Kali is a synonym for eskrima, arnis, baston, yantok, etc - they are all the same group of martial arts. Whether the training is practical or not is up to you and your instructor, but best to know the difference between facts, opinions, and myths.
The traditional ones are deadlier. Probably you are referring to the 'modernized', newer ones that adds fancy moves to attract students for $$. The old/traditional ones are effective in guerilla warfare that is why it was respected by those who know and is taught to US and Philippine special forces and marines because of the proven effectivity in real life situations.
@@antondelacruz9362 the only problem is that icy Mike say some of bjj practitioner WOULD bring a fight to the ground instead of using it as last line of defense.
Great martial atr teacher and he makes great knives. Get one!!!
a lot of martial artist said that kali is not for selfdefense
It's for killing the fastest way possible 😂.
Everything he said after get away was pure fantasy
Well, he did stay at a Holiday Inn Express.
Then the opponent retracts and stabs again multiple times or punches with the other hand, then stabs, and it's all over. Gramps can go back to his drills in his living room armchair.
must have missed the part where he stressed you should run away or make space to pull your own weapon
So I have a question and maybe this can be a topic for another video. In confined spaces like trains, small cafes etc I feel like some of the kali training can be useful but *what are some basic training movements that are essential to knife defense?* I feel like a video on specific drills or movements would be interesting to see.
footwork is very stressed atleast in coach danny's classes so that might help in that situation
@@daddiskrub I did notice that. There was a huge focus on getting out of the way of the attacker
@@strystyl yes it is extremely important and helps with more than just excaping
What happens if the attacker is physically bigger and stronger than you are and they have a knife out? Also you don't have the opportunity to escape and you can only fight back. What then?
The answer is, just get ready to die. At least you die fighting rather than dying as a victim. hehe!
Then fight back. Fight dirty. go for the balls, bust the knee cap, gouge out the eyes, whatever. grab a rock or something. Hahaha. That's the only choice I have.
evry tactic will usefull if you able to execute.
They use a knife in both hands up this way
great to see sifu danny here
training at his gym is one of the best experiences of my life
bjj will always be able to take that knife away easy.
Great philosophy and techniques of self defense 👍
No experienced in real knife 😂
3:12, does he live in Ohio?
BLA,BLA, BLA,.... SRANJE.
Coach Danny is a super fascinating dude. I had him on The Fight House Talks Podcast as a guest and had an amazing conversation. I am looking forward to touching hands with him someday!
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6:59 is a good one...
Wisdom....it's a priceless thing....thank you, both of you. BE well.
Nice know how
Kali, Arnis, and Eskrima are best and maybe there are a few better.
The explanation is to long, e-v-a-d-e is about three steps too damn many.
Here is a slightly different question. Do you think the mentality of "self defense" is wrong? So much of what is taught as self defense is a reactive mentality. "if the opponent does this then you do this" kind of choreography almost. Is it not better just to learn to fight and the combatives that go along with the mentality you develop from knowing how to fight?
My interest (because so few people train it) is the unorthodox techniques with the pikal blade indexing. I understand why the orthodox techniques are always shown but as someone who has trained in that pikal style, I wonder how these techniques would need to be altered to compensate to combat someone who uses that style. Also his methods and understanding are brilliant and you are really good at interviewing and giving people room to demonstrate, so kudos to you.
Fantastic artist and teacher. it would be a dream to have all of the great sensei's come around show proper defense for everyone to see. Having sensei fong spar with this guy would be so good for learning in all fronts. Thanks Kevin! You and Jeff chan should set something up like this. Both of you are legends in teaching us and showing us valuable info to improve ourselves.
Kali is used by our ancestor to fight spaniard and japaness and other enimeis... A thousand year ago.
Just seen a knife video, this just come up after. I wonder what Mike thinks of this one ?
Awesome Video...A lot of great information shared. Love what you are doing with your channel Kevin!
Simple, usted trate aprender todo lo que pueda referente a este asunto de usar cuchillos y defenderse contra ataques de cuchillos, la realidad es que uno no sabe a que hora, lugar y en que condiciones lo van atacar con un cuchillo si es que es con cuchillo, un arma de fuego, un palo, una botella o con cualquier objeto, la verdad es que un ataque con un cuchillo existe la posibilidad de un 95% que lo puedan cortar o sea que usted debe pensar y tratar de convertir el 5% que le queda de no ser cortado en una probabilidad de un 95% de no ser cortado, amigos a la hora de la verdad, es muy fácil decirlo que hacerlo, nunca se limite a un solo sistema o arte marcial, recuerde no se trata de que es lo mejor, se trata de que es lo mas efectivo y funcional posible para tratar de sobrevivir a un ataque de cuchillo. Porque se trata de sobrevivir, no se trata de que aquello es mejor o o es mejor esto otro, usted entrene con conciencia y con lo que favorece y lo que tiene en contra cuando usted aprenda técnicas de defensa contra cuchillos así de simple. Nadie es Superman, si tiene la oportunidad de sacar un objeto sea le que sea para defenderse de un atacante con un cuchillo, pués hágalo es su vida la que está de por medio, no se ponga a usar solo las manos por querer demostrar que sabe, esto se trata de sobrevivir como sea y llegar a su casa o al hospital lo mas sano posible pero vivo para seguir con su vida otro día mas.
This is a very great video. Thanks so much, Kevin.
Guro Danny's holiday Inn express joke got me
I didn’t catch that one on the set. 😭😭😭
@@KevinLeeVlog 😭😭
This is a nice entertaining way to showcase self defense, they even got Dana White to participate.
All that arm control stuff at the end and the wall work is grappling
just like Guro Johan from Arnis Sikaran
DannyTerrell really knows his stuff in Kali!
Kevin Lee, why you're no longer in UFC? Why did you go to Eagle Fighting Championships? XD
Bro is to small to compete in UFC.
It's great knowledge. 👍 I love the lesson in the video.
Yes.. but a broom or a shovel is better 😂
Sifu Danny!!!