I really believe men need to focus first on what defines a man and learning what leadership means. It's too many males having these conversations, creating RUclips channels for views, but lack the mental and intellectual development to logically assess a 50/50 partnership. A lot of these "men" want to be seen as lions, when they're mentally and emotionally cubs.
Interesting you used lions as your analogy. Female lions in the pride do the hunting yet "submit" to the male for protection. That's their nature, they don't have to learn how to submit or learn what it is to be a female lion.
@@7thlion1 Great, then the men asking for 50/50 should not be. Can’t be asking for 50/50 for bills, and then when it comes to other responsibilities, suddenly, “there’s no 50/50 in life”. LMAO. That’s just hypocrisy.
I’ve never heard of a man who does 50 percent of chores at home and childcare, they might help some but they don’t do it like us. That’s because there’s biological differences between men and women and they are not conscientious like us so 50/50 often leads women to resent men bc she’s tired from working and feels it’s unfair split at home
We want a wife and a mother than supports us and peace..if you work you think you just get to keep all your money..😂😂😂 ignorance at its best..just not help at all..then stay the fk home and raise your children
I don’t know where you come from, but there’s no woman on earth who wouldn’t try to lead 50% of the time EVEN if shes not bringing in any money. Women by nature are not submissive, I don’t know why everyone in this comment section is acting like they are.
@@Tb-gz4qt It makes me think of men who wrongly assume that Eastern European and Filipina women are 'submissive.' I've NEVER met a submissive Eastern European or Filipina woman in my life LOL.
I have learned dealing with many females. That most women wants to feel safe. Meaning that she wants a man too, support her. So she can build up her nest up. So if the relationship ends she will have a bag saved. It’s like a 401(k) for relationships. But most of the time, I have seen women when they build up that 401(k) for relationship it end. She’s will lose respect for her man. Because she don’t need hes money anymore. As in guys, we all need to stop paying for everything and start do 50-50. because when the relationship. Ever guys are going to realize, they did everything for their females and have nothing left to show for it. Because you spend it all on her.
@Tb-gz4qt women are natural submissive which is why we are very attracted to dominant men. We are also selective by design which prevents us from submitting to a man until he has provided an environment for which it is safe to do so.
My mother made almost 300k a year and my father about 55k. He was the one doing the housework and raising me while she was traveling for work. Now years later they have nightly fights over how he hates her because she never had a hot meal waiting for him when he came home as well as low libido because she was so exhausted being gone 3 weeks a month. I've been hearing about their fights over their lack of a sex life and his metaphorical castration since I'm about 7. It's caused alot of mental damage to me. Men who want women who bring 50%+ be ready to reclaim your feminine side otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure.
I feel like you father had a lot of nerve asking for meals when got home. Where is that written? Was your mother born with a spatula? Female slavery, but yet these men are the first ones to complain about white men enslaving them. Any man that wants to eat with a wife that works justine he does needs to know how to cook and feed himself. Ps feminine side does not translate into cooking and cleaning. If you are mentally damage from this,go get counseling from a license counselor. Don't run to church for it.
Bruh. How dense are you? They were fighting cuz she had ZERO respect for him because of the salary discrepancy and she was obviously effing somebody else and not him. Being tired was a lie.
@@massagemodality366 I'm not religious. Also men and women have their respective roles to play. You want a man to court you, protect you, provide for you? Cooking a meal is the least you can do. Women act so tough because they pay car bills and can keep the lights on meanwhile all men do that and more for women
Strange, I am the total financial support system for my woman. My wife does the shopping, most of the housework and some errands and she helps handle finances. I realize what she is doing is work. What she does is not easy and It is greatly appreciated and needed. Some may call it traditional but it works for us. I do not ever expect my wife to pay for anything.
This also largely depends on where one lives and what their purpose is. Not everyone lives in a country, region or city where it’s affordable to get ahead on one income.
I have a friend that makes more money than her husband. When they had the child, she stayed home for 8 weeks, that’s all the time she was given before she would be without leave. But her money keep the household afloat. Sooooo she went to work and he stayed home with the baby. When I tell you it came with so many problems. Because even though he knew financially it made sense for him to stay home with the baby, he couldn’t help but feel emasculated. It’s hard to see himself as the head when he’s being a house dad while his wife go out to work and bring home the money. When men realize their ability to provide financially is connected to them being the head and getting the respect they desire, they’ll stop asking women for 50% of the bills. What’s practical doesn’t always feel right. Of course, she had a lot to say about how the money was spent because it was mostly his money. Even though he also had a voice in the decision making, he said he doesn’t feel like he can have the final say on things. Because deep down he knew he wasn’t paying for it. Until men understand how women work, they’ll understand that a expecting on your woman to pay half of everything isn’t going to bring the ultimate respect you truly desire.
That's dumb. Marriage is about team work, and if her going to work is the right choice, then be it. The well being of the child is more important than anyone's pride.
I’m not the head and my girl is not the neck we are both the whole body and mind, we both contribute in every aspect. This line of thought is so immature and just shows why people have bad relationships and have no communication. We cook together , we clean together, we budget together because that’s what a relationship is…being together, working together 100/100. All and everything she does is beautiful to me, even snoring her brains out when I got to be up at 6am 😂
100/100 sounds about right, however there may be some caveats from time to time, and that’s okay. Who wants 50% of anything or anyone? It’s trash talk and makes no sense. Just thoughtless rhetoric parroted over and over again. In relationships, the parties involved are to step up accordingly. It’s a union, and if the 2 parties are invested, naturally they’re going to put in the work, picking up where the other leaves off or may slack, or may not be capable of doing.
@@d.shidon I agree with you whole heartedly. It gets depressing when people try to trivialize it or pretend we’re not all humans in this world learning to work together. I think to many people just have bad relationships and tend to blame the other side. They aren’t realizing if they looked at it without bias that bad relationships really stem from immaturity and lack of communication. Nothing can be perfect but those things help immensely.
Thank You, basic common sense. Too many women these days want Traditional Roles but don't want to be told what/how to do bcus it's "misogyny". If you both have to work then you both have to work. It is what it is but chores still need to be done regardless. You were doing when you were single so what's the problem now. This isn't a thing you can cherry pick at, do the work that needs to be done Together and move forward
Honestly! I’d love to help budget with my husband and cook with him and clean with him. The problem is that so many issues pop up due to lack of communication within couples
Paying all a womans bills... Bring that its my child energy.. Lol.. U want traditional men but u dont want to be a traditional woman.... Western women... Lol... Dumb as fuck
Finally, this part of the conversation is getting more light. As men we can’t expect for women to submit, and be a great homemaker, while at the same time, asking her to be a career woman. If she’s doing both, then you have to do both as well.
There are men who are intimidated with 50+. I’ve experienced that and it created some tension in the relationship. Us women have to be extra careful to not to select a man who will feel insecure about it.
She just made a point for us men. When women are expected to carry their own weight in a relationship they become bitchy. Using the word energy to cover up what we know as irritation is just face saving.
@@adolphus2002I don’t believe in using money to be bossy. If a woman acts like that, then she does not need to be with a man and vs versa. Relationships should be enjoyable. A person cannot enjoy a relationship with a bossy person.
I'm here thinking i don't even always feel like giving 50 to myself. I think that's why I'm good being alone. I don't have the mental, emotional, & physical space for someone else. Not even to date casually. I BARELY want to go out with friends. Never thought I'd grow up to be that single childless auntie, but i have zero desires rn to commit to anything, pet included, and i don't see that changing anytime soon. I don't even like committing to plans for the weekend. If i want to stay home, bum out in pajamas, and watch TV, i like knowing i can decide to do so. Being stuck in doors quarantined from everyone during peak COVID was not an issue for me. Guess I'm a loner by choice, social if i have to.
Men, you can date 50/50 if you want, but be realistic and don’t expect her to be fit, feminine, and cooperative. Fit, feminine and submissive energy is what provider men receive, you can’t get it if you are 50/50.
what in the blue-pill simpery are you TALKING about? no they dont ; they get " settled for" until the next chad/tyrone enters the playing-field. not unless you're a house-hold-name-level rich and famous ; and even that isnt any type of guarantee.
So basically don’t ask for a women to take care of herself or be a good person unless you pay all the bills? Lmao y’all don’t even deserve that because you bring ntn to the table.
So why would being 50/50 affect her fitness? Or anything else? Those are commodities you purchase and not personality traits a woman already has or not?
@@sandracastillo3317 "feel like"??? it is.... and he expects intimacy. You cannot give a man intimacy and your body with 50/50. BW need to stop making decisions out of low self-esteem.
But women are partners so....... what is the point here? We are here to originally help each other through life. Just choose a woman who understands that. Simple.
Keep paying 100 fellas. When she files for divorce she’s taking 50 maybe more with alimony. FOH with this bs, I can’t believe they agreed with the bs coming out of her mouth. She was smirking the whole time she don’t even believe that bogus claim. Head energy my ass
I was raised by a family that worked together, my mother wasn't a scrounge. They've been together 40 years. My mum earned more. They pool there money together and it's both of therew. No arguments. If I want to pay money for a woman to be in my life, I'll go see a whore
Modern men want traditional women without being traditional themselves. This is what my husband calls reverse feminism. So many brothers in this comment section upset that women want to be provided for so they can adequately look up to them and honor them. If you want 50/50 just know that she will see you as her equal. Men with wisdom understand this. It's clear single motherhood has not only effected women but it has effected men as well. Bc all they've ever seen was their mom working her ass off.
If a man has to be traditional by providing and protecting then he should get a traditional woman in return. THAT'S CALLED A VIRGIN . If you are not one then adjust your requirements ladies
@@MR.DREAM333, if you think a virgin is all it takes, the man can look for a Virgin in peace and carry out his full duties of protection and providing.
@@Jenken297 ...a man should get what he pays for. If she is not a virgin then she must go 50/50. Wealthy men and pretty women are the only ones that have privilege . It's funny to me how average and below average looking women think they can demand ANYTHING
Mind set is key to any situation ! I have been married for 30 years. My husband have always taken care of his family. My husband had a massive heart attack in 2020. I am now the breadwinner. My husband is not able to work like he did previously. Now l do more. When you make vows before The Most High we are to uphold those vows until death do us part. I believe that 50/50 is the mindset of a carnal person. I and my husband work together. The Most High makes sure all of our needs are met. We give the Lord the Glory !! Amen 🙏
How old is your husband when he suffered a heart attack? The thing is I'm worried about how hard my husband works and we both work full time but he works longer hours and doesn't get much sleep
@@zraj3433 have you bought that concern to him? I know I would To my husband! If he could afford to work less hours or you guys have a strict budget so he’s not working himself to death
Men here in Sweden want 50/50 and it is the first culture shock I got when I came here. I went for a date one time and the guy asked me to pay him 250kr for the flowers he got me 😢 we went to a very classy coffee shop that he had suggested and he only bought himself coffee, since I didn’t have high expectations I bought myself some coffee too. He never heard from me again
Men.. If you want a woman who happily splits the bills.. go find her… ladies if you want a man who pays 70% of bills.. go find him. I don’t think anyone is wrong. Not everyone is for everyone 🤷🏾♀️ we all have preferences.
Exactly! People doing way too much shaming, when they should just get with people they mesh with. I notice people who do that, are always single and miserable.
Spot on. Something happens in a woman’s mind when she has to bring half. I can’t explain it but it’s like you get into a different head space. She’s soo right
The father and mother must bring all their resources into raising the family. What the hell has happened to people? This is how kids end up failing to go to college because parents didnt work hard enough to save anything for them.
even if a wife works to buy groceries and stuff for her husband, herself and the kids she still has to do the cooking, cleaning, DISHES, Laundry, take care of the Kids and take care of her husband's needs and be in shape and be feminine put makeup fixed hair nice nails, feet that is exhausting everything takes TIME and EFFERT. No wonder ALOT of women would rather be single.
@@chulacanija You say that but ignore that in most marriages, the man is having to work extra hours so the woman can afford to get extra time at home to do all those things. I mean lets just be real for a second, would you rather be at work for an additional 16 hours each month or spend more time at home doing all those things you mentioned? Coz if society didn't shame us, men would chose that any day.
@James E I see and yes we're all mad here j/k everyone is exhausted maybe that is why there's so many divorces nowadays days. And it doesn't help when there is no communication.
Each person in a relationship has to bring 100%. They don’t have to put their needs above their partners, but they have to 100% of the time consider how their behavior and their choices will affect their partner. Each partner is 100% committed to being considered of the other person’s perspective. They do not have to agree on everything they do not have to like the same things. They do not even have to compromise. They need to find a third option. We’re both of them get their needs, met without any resentment.
I do Not believe that a woman is supposed to be going 50/50 with her husband. We wear a lot of hats as women. We are the nurturers of the family, we are the nurse when the children and husband is sick, we go through the 10 month process of childbearing (the 1st four weeks we don’t even know we are pregnant) we are the ones who adds a woman’s touch to make a house a home, and lot of us work outside the home including myself, and we still make time to ensure everyone has clean clothes, in some cases we are Chef and find time to cook. Yes, some men cook too if they have time to, but most times the women take on that responsibility and we also have to keep up our appearance, make sure to try best to stay looking beautiful: hair and nails and try to stay physically healthy, be great lovers between the sheets and still EXPECTED go 50/50. That’s definitely a man trying to send you to an early grave ⚰️
@@ebonymiller3545 Okayyyy! Absolutely Nuts! They Grown Man/Children are not ready for a relationship, they are looking for a roommate they can have sex with! NOT happening over here 😅😅
I mean……😂😂😂 Men in general do more inna relationship then women. If ur in relationship where u feel ur doing everything either ur masculine, or the guy u picked is only on attractiveness and no other qualities. Protection isn’t 50/50, 100% the man or else we all die. Leadership isn’t 50/50 unless children are involved and even with that in mind decision making majority of time in a healthy relationship men have the final say. But for some reason every time I hear 50/50 it’s always related to money 🤦🏾♂️. Gotta stop putting this narrative out there. It’ll only lead to more singleness and bitterness for no reason.
@@ebonymiller3545 😂😂😂🤣🤣… Lol @ not going to stress you out! Well some do and some are not bad. I’m married, but my husband doesn’t NOT have the 50/50 mentality. So I’m good… have the most generous and caring husband.
I remember when my ex and I broke up. I got a higher paying job doubling my salary. He wanted to get back together and I thought we could work it out. But he wouldn't stop asking me how much money I made. I never wanted to share that info because we weren't married or living together. He got mad cause I wouldn't share my salary info with him. He only wanted to know so he could get me to pay for more stuff. He rarely paid for anything and I never signed up to be the breadwinner. Some men want women to carry the load. It's a lot
@@vonking9118 If you have to use "cap" for the term lie then you're not intelligent. Men do this all the time with nurses. It's called "nurse with a purse." Some of these travel nurses are pulling $8,000- $10,000 a WEEK and their partners are at home sitting down. Even staff nurses are making $40/hr as new staff nurse. Then you factor in the overtime and the differential pay for the weekends or working night shifts and your talking $65-$70/hr. I went on a date with a guy and I made the mistake of saying my income because he asked randomly but then his eyes bugged out of his head. Next date he made me pay for his food and my food. When the check came the guy serving us gave him the check then he looks at me and was like "hey bri the check" and he came up with a lame excuse of why he couldn't pay. I paid, but that was the last time we went on a date and I never saw him again and don't ever plan to lay my two eyeballs on him again.
50/50 is bringing the, I’m not doing all the cooking/cleaning/laundry energy. And the I’m going to have my own bedroom because you’re my roommate energy.
This is so true. Men don’t realize that being fifty fifty means fine I’ll be fifty with you but most women who make money also do most of the cooking, cleaning, errands, child rearing, etc. which is not fifty percent! They want a woman to do all the traditional things at the same time adding a modern twist that does not support the traditional things you want to see with your woman.
And women never touch mowing the yard, servicing the car, taking out the trash, killing spiders, lifting anything, putting anything together, opening jars....
@@DeadlyPlatypus lol yikes. I don’t know anyone that’s so incompetent that they can’t put together some ikea furniture. You know they make grips to help open jars? They’re
@@chunli99 "Servicing the car is just going to have the car looked at." Yikes... Standard minimization of any male contribution by just claiming a woman can just pay ANOTHER man to do it for her...that's how women "do it themselves. "
This is a fair statement and women need to understand what is expected when a man is paying 100%. Nobody’s financing your life for non compliance, not even your employers.
A woman also doesn't wanted to be treated like a doormat because you're financing her life. Some men let their provider status go straight to their heads and become arrogant.
@@symonelewis1690 A woman isn’t a doormat for complying. She’s a supporter/submissive/subservient to the man and the family. Just as I let him take the lead and “let it go to his head”, I take the support and humbly be proud of it. Yes I make moves that help my husband save. Yes I homeschool and take care of my kids. It’s a worth deserving of pride- to be both a leader or a supporter. While I don’t agree with stating claiming “ownership” to women, upon the general rule isn’t a modern man that I know who thinks this way. Leadership is by setting the example, not being a tyrant. You have to know the man you choose to lay with, and sub out those minorities from your selection. Edit: I changed supporter/subservience to supporter/submission/subservience Choose what you see fit.
@@symonelewis1690 How much money anyone makes doesn’t give anyone the right to treat anyone like a doormat, man or woman. Btw some women act the same with finances, I’d say its a people thing. That being said BOTH men and women CHOOSE the people they want to be with and the QUALITIES that come with them which includes the way they treat you/finance your life. So if you have a problem with the way a man or woman is treating you, financing or NOT financing your life the power is in your hands to move forward rather than give that person any more of your time no? Otherwise once you choose a person you innately are choosing to comply with them both men and women. If you dont want to comply/cooperate stay single and take care of your own finances. I think we can all agree that neither men or women are entitled to anything even funerals cost money🤷♀️
This is a message that real men already understand. It’s the men with mommy and daddy issues, who need to learn. If you want a traditional woman, you must be a traditional man.
My father is traditional and my mother brings 50 and she is still very feminine with him. So she supposed to act masculine because she has a life too? Lmfao wtf
I agree 100%! You can’t have it both ways you can’t have it that we’re equal whenever it is time for you not wanting to fit the bill fully but we’re not equals whenever you wanna throw your weight around and you want shit to go your way or the highway.
The problem is in these conversations we’ve turned life love and relationships into a paycheck. We live in a society where inflation is crazy. I’ll make enough money to pay all of my family’s bills and I told my wife to work and continue to build her career because you never know what may happen next And the day may come where she makes more money than I do that has nothing to do with leadership in my house. A lot of women are holding men hostage to a paycheck and if you’re going to do that, just go find a man that is rich and you won’t have to worry about that. If you have a man in your life that you don’t respect, then you don’t need to be with him but let’s stop making this about a paycheck.
Sir, you do know that the way you presented it is not bad. Obviously, there is inflation, but the people she is talking about are men who do not lead but want 50/50 and to lead with no plan. You sound like you are a man with a plan. There are also people who just put her money to work in other areas but focus on living on one income to ensure the pressure remains lower. Anyhow, I don’t believe her message is for you. I think you get a pass.
@@Regina.Clarke I think my issue is times have changed and women want to choose between what’s convenient for them in a given situation. No woman really wants to be dominated anymore like the 60s and women have fought for equal rights and empowerment rightly so. So I don’t think that this should be a conversation because women have the same earning power as men do but I think women have to be selective and be with men that understand who they are what they want and they’re able to lead without dictating. Because we’re living in the day where women don’t want to be dictated to leadership with understanding and empathy and not dictatorship. 50-50 does not make you a roommate. It makes you partners building a legacy for the future. It’s just all about how you view it and how it’s set up in your home.
The sister is absolutely right! A sister who brings “50 plus” to the table is a breadwinner, intelligent and can think for herself and now she’s to play the submissive wife, that makes absolutely no sense.
So your saying just because she bring 50% she don't have to be submissive, and still do wifey duties, then the man don't owe her protection, or anything else. If u women honestly think this way, get a cat and die alone, ur logic is stupid as fuck.
Plus wtf are we supposed to be submitting to like what are they leading I'm so confused on what's going on and what people are asking for like I could have swore relationship was about love and not control
If you’re paying 50% as a woman you don’t have to submit, just know why and what you’re in the relationship/roommate situation for get yours and do you
They say a roommate but vvomen want a janitor, a man to clean up their debt, poor choices in life and erase their body count magically 😅 Basically, they want a free ride still...
I do agree with you. However I do find it amusing that modern women strives for equality where it’s convenient and undermines it when it’s inconvenient.
@@justlynn5693 I believe the man is the head and leader of the household. Much of the responsibility falls on the man. We are called to provide a vision for the family as well as safety, shelter, nourishment etc. This is achieved in partnership with his wife however a man has to take responsibility for his family. My comment about equality was a tongue in cheek remark about modern feminism and equality as it opposes stable family foundation.
@@SammyNdlovu1212 it's really not the same. A man in a woman's friend zone is a loser. He is spending time and resources on a woman who isn't giving him any. I could care less about a simp in the bushes. The question is there a top tier successful man willing to Wife up my leftovers a day after I've bust inside of her. If so... Good luck to that man lol males and females are just not the same. A man's drive is to get as many women as possible to show his worth. Women want the best possible man they can get to commit and provide for her.
Lol woman can provide for themselves, where have you been?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Women are just saying don't demand a women who will, clean, cook, look after children etc, working and paying half of bills while u think, u are still the head of the house 😳😳😳😳😳😳.
@Kimberly Taylor no disrespect, but please stop thinking that everybody just wants what's best for you. Divide and conquer is a VERY real strategy. The most organic form of security that every person on earth has is Family. It's the best safety net in the world. Once that safety net is destroyed, and everyone is cast upon their own resources with no one to help if things go left; the only one who wins is the one who makes the rules. It's not about people having money. It's about power. Let's stop listening to false narratives, reestablish our families, and bring power back to our communities.
You having sex w/ your roommate? You marrying your roommate? You think your roommate is dying for you? Fighting for you? Also, in the court system in 2022, if the man pays for everything he also has to pay alimony. If bills are 50-50 he is less likely to pay alimony since both parties carried the bills.
So since you not giving up 50/50 Then what is the woman's role to become equal in a healthy relationships? There's more to being a woman than having children& being a homme maker. The way i hear it nowadays females feel that they are the prize and don't need to add/ bring anything to the table.
This is one reason why modern day relationships don’t last. Both people are competing thinking as individuals instead of thinking as a team. This rhetoric is being pushed everyday but it’s getting relationships nowhere. Many don’t even make it past the honeymoon phase. Why do y’all insist on doing the same 💩that hasn’t worked?
Why is your understanding of this automatically “competing”? Do you really think women don’t have great idea and insights? My husband and I come together to make decisions and it works wonderfully. I have some experiences he doesn’t and Vice versa. So sometimes we agree my approach males more sense. Sometimes his does. How is this concept so foreign and automatically bring you notions of strife? 🤣. It’s working together eith someone. Very simple. Kids learn to do this in elementary school lol.
My Mom worked & she paid specific bills like insurance, all, cheaper through her job & still stayed submissive 💯‼️❗CAP, JUST BC A WOMAN CONTRIBUTES DOESN'T AUTO GIVE UP SUBMISSION 💯 MY MOM STAYED FEMININE & HELPMATE NO MATTER WHAT 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Preach you literally get what you pay for❤They want a hybrid situation they want her income but still want to run everything and tell her what to do and make all the decisions including finances and have her care for the kids and home 99% of the time
So men are paying MORE to end up with a broke girl who will just leach off him. So you're saying that marrying a bum is the best value? LOL girl, tell me you're broke without telling me you're broke.
@@skinnyguy7773 That’s what you got out of my comment 🙃 A couple of things In no way am I being condescending I will explain it better since you missed the point in its entirety. I often hear men say things such as “my grandmother cooked cleaned and took care of the kids I want traditional”. So I ask them well did your grandmother work they always say no. Then I ask well the way this economy is set up are you able to provide for the family while the woman stays at home most say no. My parents were married until my dad passed my mother didn’t work outside of the home other than getting a few dollars at a department store around the holidays for gifts. She did all the cooking all the cleaning and helped us with homework etc. BUT SHE DID NOT WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME My dad worked he never had to come home cook or anything because she took care of that as it should be. Sadly I know women who will work just like the man sometimes making more money who literally drive themselves into the grave early because they work and come home and do EVERYTHING driving kids to activities ALL the cooking all the cleaning. They let themselves go they lack sleep they gain weight too exhausted for frequent sex and they work themselves to sickness while the man who works just like them sits back and relaxes and doesn’t do much some of these men won’t even cut grass they pay someone or worse some women do it. So when I say hybrid situation that’s what that is. So basically a hybrid situation is a situation where most men can’t afford traditional but demand traditional by having the woman do everything traditionally instead of ONLY taking care of the home and family AS her only job she STILL works a full time job outside the home. Hats off to women who don’t take care of themselves, I plan to be here for my grandkids not dying early because of slave labor. If she takes care of them home and kids pretty much 100 percent and doesn’t not work that’s fine and ideal But if she does ALL of that while a man is there and she works just like he does she is being used. He will contribute helping with kids and cleaning I have no problem cooking all the meals but there is no way in hell I would work FULL TIME LIKE HIM AND COME AND DO EVERYTHING
Sistas please just Divest lol I promise you, they don’t have those “50/50” “Struggle love, ride or die” convos over here. (Unless they’re dusty identified) My husband of 3 years, is Italian-Caprese & Sicilian and the way he’s exemplified what true Manhood & Leadership is, is Ineffable! In his culture, it’s an insult, for a man to financially survive off of a woman. There is no honor, for an adult male, who can’t or won’t provide, for his family. I adore, respect & revere him, like the king of all Kings & he lays every glorious wonder, of this world, at my feet 🤎🤎 Tesoro mio!
That's funny because alot of white women work. If you think the majority of white women married or in a relationship, are sitting at home, and living lavish then you are delusional 🤣🤣🤣. I live in socal, and just about everyone white couple i know, who are living in lavish live in a dual income household.
Serious question: were you childless when you married him? Many BW can't "divest" with another man's children in tow. We have to be honest that it's cultural and not racial.
🤦🏽♂️ Don’t come selling these women false illusions like “just divest”. Just bc one outcasted Italian couldn’t get a woman of his own race and decided to dive through the dumpsters of the black community and found you in the gutter.. doesn’t mean that every black woman would be so fortunate. Black women have the highest obesity rates and are known as the poster child’s for bad attitudes and combativeness, that’s why no man of ANY race is checking for yall. You’re setting your sistas up for failure. Bw can get smashed and passed around by European men at best. And stop talking about divesting like it’s some brand new strategy, bw been gagging on pink sausage since Loving Vs Brown, but only .00001% of y’all will actually marry a snow king. You will always be considered the most unattractive to men of other races. The only thing is that now even black men are realizing that we can’t continue to set our standards this low, with a passport we can get a non western black woman who isn’t built like Lizzo and doesn’t wear red weaves and bonnets in public. Pasa buena ✌🏾
I have a question... as young male ( 18 ) who is starting his male adulthood journey, i recognise the fact that my role in my future family would be to Protect and Provide while the woman cooks and cleans... But if my future wife is also working a job, do i lose the expectation that she has to cook and clean? Because, nowadays, i dont see how one could provide for a family yearly and keep up with expenses and holidays with just 1 persons wages ( average 50 k ). So wouldnt you need both people in the relatioship to work? ( and therefore she could make the argument that she doesnt need to carry out her role? or is that a sign of a bad woman? Cuz if the man is protecting, but only providing to the point where all his wages go into bills and no extra things like holidays, pets, kids. hobbys, vacations, then should the woman have to work aswell? And even if the woman works... im protecting my family.... so should i still expect my woman to cook and clean for me? and take care of the house and the kids? Thanks!
My husband was not down with that 50/50 thing from the beginning. But he knew it was the thing I needed in the beginning to feel safe. Once I saw he was a safe person for me to trust, I no longer did the 50/50, and it enabled me to also trust him enough to reproduce with him and let him handle all of the bills while I was so vulnerable.
It's OK to go Dutch in the beginning. In fact men prefer it as well to avoid getting scammed by Free meal ticket 304s. Once the guy knows that the girl is safe to be around and not scamming him then they can enter their masculine and provide.
Yes If I have to bring 50% your no longer wearing the pants probably some capris! But not pants! Because at that point I'm doing all my job AND half yours!!
Do you now the system has designed it this way do men find to hard to get a job But the woman can, To break up the black home and you ppl.are falling for it.
Our nationality is the only nationality having this type of conversation! This is a cultural thing. African Americans do not have cultural culture, unfortunately, because we were born in the States and not born and raised in our native countries. Our nationality really needs a lot of healing. 🙏🏾🌈🦋
The partners have to really analyze their situation. Before my late husband died he worked so I could stay home with the kids. We ended up starting a business. When this happened I was still at home with kids, household chores, running the back office, setting up the business on the back end, being the customer service rep, and still going on jobs with him and did physical labor. At that point I thought it would become 50/50 and he would help me out around the house or at least with the kids, dinner something. But I still ended up having to do it on my own. Men need to be upfront with what they really want from that woman. But the biggest aspect is knowing they can't have their cake and eat it too.
I’m so glad to hear someone else say this….thank you. It makes absolutely no sense for a man to want an alpha female, then try to turn her into a submissive
That's important as advice right there don't listen to that mess as a woman you could bring a hundred and still keep a man on a pedestal. I'm 33 years in a marriage and currently I bring 100 my husband is still my head and feels 100% in control because I know how to give him the reins!
My wife makes over $200K a year. I also know 20-25 women bringing in six figures. And none of them act the way woman speaks of. And the majority of them make more money than their husbands.
I’m that woman who brings 80-100% and remain a lady holding my own. That means I can have it all with you or without you while maintaining it all if you decide to leave. Pick your poison sir. 💁🏽♀️
I honestly don't gaf what my spouse makes. I make enough on my own to support myself and then some and have for a long time and continue to. Always put money aside as well. The dumb thing is, people acting like money makes you more important in a relationship. I see it as household income "WE" make together despite being a breadwinner or not. Percentage is dumb anyhow in this case as if I make 100k and she makes 500k it's not like either person is gonna be hurting in life. I find you only need so much in life to live by and I always live well below my means. Relationships are way more than money folks.
I understand what she is saying, me splitting everything down the middle makes us equal like roomates because I'm putting in just as much so you wont get the same reverence as being the head or leader of the family. Then there are guys that expect the woman to contribute half but still be responsible for all the cooking, cleaning, and washing...no, that would need to be split as well
It seems based on these comments that women just want to live off men. Live for free and let the man work and spend all his money on them (bills dates trips gifts) and they keep their money. And base "the table " as being being pretty and sex. That's simply not enough. There are too many women that are pretty and giving sex.
@@Mr1Musiclover If a woman wants that then they wouldn't even go half. There are women that desire and want sugar daddies and to each iits own but if you want a roomate then that's what you will get if you expect a women to split bills down the middle. Most women are not going to serve you and put you on a pedestal like a king...plus, if I'm splitting bills the household chores will be split as well. My husband and I have been together for 27 years, married for 20 and he has never asked me to help pay the mortgage. He keeps a roof over our head as a man is required to do Biblically and I pay the bills, but to each its own.
@@LKS-M9323 exactly, if you want 50/50 you want a roomate and not a wife. Men can get a woman that will settle for 50/50 but she's not going to cater to you and put you on a pedestal like a king. A woman should feel like she needs her man and a guy going in 50/50, is replaceable...my sister can move in and go half with me if we ever seperate. You do know that women have only been allowed to work in this country for about the last century (100 years) so prior to that everything was on the man, many countries still don't allow women to work but even the Bible says a man is to provide and shelter his family spiritually and physically. A man had to pay an endowment and bring the woman's family gifts of gold, silver, live stock and other precious things to show he had the ability to take care of her. That's why the father walks her down the aisle and gives her away. He said I have raised, provided for, and protected my daughter and she has carried my last name...I am now handing her over to you to do the same. You will now provide for, protect, and cover her and she will carry your last name. It's a partership and the woman contributes in many other ways than just finacially. My husband says the men at work get jelous of him because while they eat out for lunch and he unpacking pot roast, collards, mac and cheese, and cornbread. Also, I don't mind making him salmon croquettes, grits and eggs before he leaves but if we were going half he could grab a frozen breakfast sandwhich to heat on the way out. It's not the same level of reverance. We've made woman enpowerment, liberation, or being equal to men the norm and that's why the black family and our kids are messed up. I do work but I don't have to stress myself to bring in a salary equal to his because my load is lighter. So far it's worked for us 27 years and his parents were married 35 years before his father passed away. What we are doing now ain't working and the black family is suffering.
She's absolutely correct. As a guy, if I expected my woman to bring 50%, I should also expect a "no" to 50% of my requests and expectations while saying "yes" to 50% of my wife's requests and expectations. I'm happy at about 25% 🤣
The best relationship I ever had was when my ex used to pay and take care of all the bills. I never saw one bill. I rarely asked him for extra money to do this or that. I made sure the house was clean, food was cooked, and his clothes laid out/ironed. I truly appreciated everything he did for me, even til this day. I get what she's saying though because I've definitely had to bring more than 50 percent.
@@Jane5720 yes, he didn't want children and I had a daughter... so obviously I was going to choose my daughter over a man. He thought I was like other women that would leave her kid with her parents all the time and I didn't. If I wasn't working then my daughter was with me.
Marriage will always be 50/50. Even if he pays for the major bills the money you have left behind will still go back to him, in the form of saving for a mortgage, saving for kids tuition, saving for vacation etc...That is what is means to be a family. This is why originally, after a divorce, people split their assets 50/50..it was because they all made contributions.
If it's 50/50 money wise as a permanent arrangement, I will feel like I'm doing more. At least more than I should. Resentment will likely follow, eventually. Even if I earn half of what my husband earns, it's best he covers more of the bills, and more of my extra goes into savings or investments for the family, because of the money I'm also bringing in, in reality. I will still see him as a provider, that way. I will feel taken care of by my husband, if it is configured that way. Even though we 'earn the same amount'. I can't really respect a man who is okay or comfortable seeing me carrying the same burden as him. Rightly or wrongly, that's how I feel.
This money shit is excuse ls for certain behavior to be tolerated. Instead of people just being who they are. With accepting that you might be single, because of who you are, and what you like. Money just enhance who you are. It enhances what already in you.
@@jchapful Simple most men like multiple women correct? A man who has options, but don’t have the Money typically can’t maintain it. So when you got 🍞 it enhances what’s already there. You got money now that man has 2 or 3 women, and is like this is what is or move around.
Yeah ok look who's complaining these are the same one's broke looking for a come up, I don't care how much a woman makes but how much do you owe, most of these broads got huge student loan debt (and Biden ain't going to forgive these loans, thanks to the supreme court) and other debt, you would be a fool to marry someone and don't care what their financial situation is and their spending habits are, that's simp move and then you gon be in jail due to domestic disputes over finances and then she gon take half lol.
You just stated a fact, I have never in my entire life heard or seen a man asking for 50/50 in terms of finance, most men would prefer a supportive woman that can support in her own little way, maybe this picture she is painted is in the USA.
Women don’t like to pay for nothing; even the ones that say they are boss chicks. They want a man to pay for everything. So when you say she should bring 50 50, her 50 comes with disrespect and bossiness.
@@Umeshukitsune It doesn't matter what you have done for a woman, she will still cheat with the pool or some broke ass man and complain that you work too much. Friends with benefits is the only way to go.
When you're married, it IS a team effort. There is no 50%. It's always 100% from both people. I feel sometimes we forget that! Now there are some exceptions to that 100% from each person. If there's a major surgery, maybe death in the family, or some life changing event, then you must pick up the slack from the other person. Therefore it needs to be a team effort.
As an older woman; it shocks me today how young men see women as money making opportunities. Growing up; men WD not let you put your hand in your pocket. They thought it demeaned them. And it was an insulting way to treat you. Literally; even men who had only just met you WD not see you paying for even drinks; taxis; food. They WD always say" We got this". They WD not take money from a woman.
My fiancé and i have a 50/50 arrangement until we’re married and honestly I like it bc for one he ends up paying more monthly anyway. gas, groceries, our outings , my car maintenance my hair and nails etc 5050 may not be so bad as long as your not with a dusty
A key component of this concept is the "ask". A man making a woman brining 50% out the gate no matter what is going to evoke a different response than "I want to give you the world and I'm doing my best but for now we have to work together to make ends meet. " One sounds and feels to the woman that you are not that into her, don't REALLY care about her and are not willing to make any sacrifice. This will produce a woman thT will struggle to relax, and fully trust you. In short it matters WHY you're asking a woman to pay half..
The why (at least for me) is simple…… I just want to know that you’re as equally invested in this as i am. I’m just trying to make sure that I’m not being manipulated and/or used. I’m actually not a person who cares about what a female has on a monetary level, but when it becomes a STIPULATION/OBLIGATION that i finance this relationship…… Houston we have a problem
@Anthony Greer I sincerely understand your logic. But men and women show their commitment and investment differently. Have you considered that requiring that a woman show investment the way a man would is putting her in her masculine energy and thus sabotaging what could be a solid relationship? The point is relationships are a risk men and women do their best to mitigate risk through vetting not insulating themselves with requirements they dont trruly care about, now you're not being yourself either...game players get played. I truly hope you rethink this strategy all the best to you and feel free to share your thoughts!
@@reneebrown4610 They’ll never outright say it, they’ll just beat around the bush & try to shame you into thinking that you’re the one that’s outta pocket by wanting to know that your time isn’t being wasted & what you’ll get for your investment
Facts. Now this is not a contest but Once I started making more than my husband, he made it his mission to go out and make more than me. I asked him why and he said because there cannot be 2 head of the household. When I thought about it I was like I know that’s right. 😂
It’s disgusting that you’re agreeing that just because you make more, that would make you head of household. Put your dick away and let him be the man. You women are weird
@@hospitaladministrator3359 Before I put it away… get on your knees bih. 😂 Plus… my husband agrees. I actually get to rest in all my femininity. 🧖🏾♀️💅🏾💆🏾♀️ 🧚🏾♂️ Don’t be mad. 🤭
Stats don't lie! Who can pay these rent & utility prices alone in this day and age? We're living in inflationary times. It's an easy fix. Just live alone and pay for everything thing yourself so you're solely responsible, so the only energy you have to deal with is your own! These conversations are useless and they present the problems but never any solutions whatsoever.
She doesn’t even realize that she is not making sense , she is basically saying you can pay her to be a good woman but if she has to pay for anything then she is going to give you hell , why would I tolerate such a woman
50 50 doesn’t make sense because how are y’all going to also go 50/50 on the house cleaning, taking care of kids, grocery shopping.. etc. If you’re gonna split the bills then everything else needs to be split for it to be fair. and that’s just impossible.
The purpose of a woman is not to take what she can from man, and then having a judge help you steal from a man. Both the judges and the women they helped bring men down in their favor are all going to Hell.
Hi edagdwg God is soooooo real pay attention to who you are as a women I don't care about what I do with my man in my life I believe in helping each other to live a we life not as a women I'm soooooo blessed to know God for myself as a child of God share love is sharing our life together stay strong and enjoy your life Linda j peace
Women get so worked up when it comes to paying a bill but ready to spend all types of money on shopping and splurging they say happy wife happy life and that's bullshit It's called support one another you got me and I got you it's just that simple
Very true and well said. The expectation men have for a woman to be and maintain being feminine while expecting her to pay 50% is counterproductive. That is what creates competition. Its essentially saying share my role (that is designed by nature) as a man to provide. Maintaining a valuable and healthy womanhood takes more time, money, and energy than the maintenance of manhood. Having to provide automatically puts a woman in masculine energy.
@@jwoods9659 Do just that. Valuable women are not interested and are staying away and single from guys like you. A “real” man is what a valuable woman wants. Dusty 50/50 feminized men are not the prize or in our radar. Thank you for recognizing that it’s best you keep your income and stay in your lane.
@@sade9425 because I don't find giving every single dime I make to you. And God forbid I get sick I can't work any longer you lady's will be gone poof the next day. My mother stood with my step father while he went through cancer I won't hold my breath that I will find a woman that will do the same for me. Men are more than open wallets.
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I really believe men need to focus first on what defines a man and learning what leadership means. It's too many males having these conversations, creating RUclips channels for views, but lack the mental and intellectual development to logically assess a 50/50 partnership. A lot of these "men" want to be seen as lions, when they're mentally and emotionally cubs.
Preach! Too many can barely lead themselves, let alone a woman.
What's a pub? Oh, you mean like a bar or something?
@@7thlion1 she meant "cub" like a baby lion
Interesting you used lions as your analogy. Female lions in the pride do the hunting yet "submit" to the male for protection. That's their nature, they don't have to learn how to submit or learn what it is to be a female lion.
@@michaelturnbull8460 nice try, you want 50/50 then be prepared to be less of a man in which a lot that expect that already are
They only want 50 from the woman on bills...but they dont want to do 50 of everything else like household stuff, child care, etc.
Because in real life there is no 50/50 shit. People do different things in a relationship. In some things it will be 40/60 some 30/70 and so on.
@@7thlion1 Great, then the men asking for 50/50 should not be. Can’t be asking for 50/50 for bills, and then when it comes to other responsibilities, suddenly, “there’s no 50/50 in life”. LMAO. That’s just hypocrisy.
This right here. Exactly.
Or being faithful
I’ve never heard of a man who does 50 percent of chores at home and childcare, they might help some but they don’t do it like us. That’s because there’s biological differences between men and women and they are not conscientious like us so 50/50 often leads women to resent men bc she’s tired from working and feels it’s unfair split at home
They want a remix of the back in the day stay at home moms but with a modern woman paycheck 😂while she get nothing but a roommate
kind of like women want sugar-daddies but dont want to give up the sugar
Funny how we’ve advanced so much individually but our families are non existent
We want a wife and a mother than supports us and peace..if you work you think you just get to keep all your money..😂😂😂 ignorance at its best..just not help at all..then stay the fk home and raise your children
@@vincelorino4394Hahaha right
And yet she will still expect him to put his life on the line to do some superman/ power rangers shit to protect her and that child
I think she should just say it. Don’t ask a woman to bring 50% of the income into the relationship and not expect her to want to lead 50% of the time.
Then women should not ask for equal pay.
I don’t know where you come from, but there’s no woman on earth who wouldn’t try to lead 50% of the time EVEN if shes not bringing in any money. Women by nature are not submissive, I don’t know why everyone in this comment section is acting like they are.
@@Tb-gz4qt It makes me think of men who wrongly assume that Eastern European and Filipina women are 'submissive.' I've NEVER met a submissive Eastern European or Filipina woman in my life LOL.
I have learned dealing with many females. That most women wants to feel safe. Meaning that she wants a man too, support her. So she can build up her nest up. So if the relationship ends she will have a bag saved. It’s like a 401(k) for relationships. But most of the time, I have seen women when they build up that 401(k) for relationship it end. She’s will lose respect for her man. Because she don’t need hes money anymore. As in guys, we all need to stop paying for everything and start do 50-50. because when the relationship. Ever guys are going to realize, they did everything for their females and have nothing left to show for it. Because you spend it all on her.
@Tb-gz4qt women are natural submissive which is why we are very attracted to dominant men. We are also selective by design which prevents us from submitting to a man until he has provided an environment for which it is safe to do so.
My mother made almost 300k a year and my father about 55k. He was the one doing the housework and raising me while she was traveling for work. Now years later they have nightly fights over how he hates her because she never had a hot meal waiting for him when he came home as well as low libido because she was so exhausted being gone 3 weeks a month. I've been hearing about their fights over their lack of a sex life and his metaphorical castration since I'm about 7. It's caused alot of mental damage to me. Men who want women who bring 50%+ be ready to reclaim your feminine side otherwise you're setting yourself up for failure.
Wow, that’s a large salary, what did you mother do for a living, if you don’t mind me asking?
@@13ghosts18 AI for the US government
I feel like you father had a lot of nerve asking for meals when got home. Where is that written? Was your mother born with a spatula? Female slavery, but yet these men are the first ones to complain about white men enslaving them. Any man that wants to eat with a wife that works justine he does needs to know how to cook and feed himself. Ps feminine side does not translate into cooking and cleaning. If you are mentally damage from this,go get counseling from a license counselor. Don't run to church for it.
Bruh.
How dense are you?
They were fighting cuz she had ZERO respect for him because of the salary discrepancy and she was obviously effing somebody else and not him.
Being tired was a lie.
@@massagemodality366 I'm not religious. Also men and women have their respective roles to play. You want a man to court you, protect you, provide for you? Cooking a meal is the least you can do. Women act so tough because they pay car bills and can keep the lights on meanwhile all men do that and more for women
Strange, I am the total financial support system for my woman. My wife does the shopping, most of the housework and some errands and she helps handle finances. I realize what she is doing is work. What she does is not easy and It is greatly appreciated and needed. Some may call it traditional but it works for us. I do not ever expect my wife to pay for anything.
This is beautiful and Biblical. If only more men (& women) understood God's design in it's glory and wisdom.
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Love this
This also largely depends on where one lives and what their purpose is. Not everyone lives in a country, region or city where it’s affordable to get ahead on one income.
This is beautiful , you are appreciated. Had out some lessons to the others
I have a friend that makes more money than her husband. When they had the child, she stayed home for 8 weeks, that’s all the time she was given before she would be without leave. But her money keep the household afloat. Sooooo she went to work and he stayed home with the baby. When I tell you it came with so many problems. Because even though he knew financially it made sense for him to stay home with the baby, he couldn’t help but feel emasculated. It’s hard to see himself as the head when he’s being a house dad while his wife go out to work and bring home the money. When men realize their ability to provide financially is connected to them being the head and getting the respect they desire, they’ll stop asking women for 50% of the bills. What’s practical doesn’t always feel right. Of course, she had a lot to say about how the money was spent because it was mostly his money. Even though he also had a voice in the decision making, he said he doesn’t feel like he can have the final say on things. Because deep down he knew he wasn’t paying for it. Until men understand how women work, they’ll understand that a expecting on your woman to pay half of everything isn’t going to bring the ultimate respect you truly desire.
That's dumb. Marriage is about team work, and if her going to work is the right choice, then be it. The well being of the child is more important than anyone's pride.
@@BumFightsVol5 There gonna be a lot of single women with these mindsets.
@@lennertcornettewhich mindset is gonna leave women single, the one the original comment meant or the one you replied to?
I’ll ask you this then. So if a man pays for 60% of the bills does that mean he gets the final say?
I’m not the head and my girl is not the neck we are both the whole body and mind, we both contribute in every aspect. This line of thought is so immature and just shows why people have bad relationships and have no communication. We cook together , we clean together, we budget together because that’s what a relationship is…being together, working together 100/100. All and everything she does is beautiful to me, even snoring her brains out when I got to be up at 6am 😂
True, both have to give 100%. Not just finances
100/100 sounds about right, however there may be some caveats from time to time, and that’s okay. Who wants 50% of anything or anyone? It’s trash talk and makes no sense. Just thoughtless rhetoric parroted over and over again. In relationships, the parties involved are to step up accordingly. It’s a union, and if the 2 parties are invested, naturally they’re going to put in the work, picking up where the other leaves off or may slack, or may not be capable of doing.
@@d.shidon I agree with you whole heartedly. It gets depressing when people try to trivialize it or pretend we’re not all humans in this world learning to work together. I think to many people just have bad relationships and tend to blame the other side. They aren’t realizing if they looked at it without bias that bad relationships really stem from immaturity and lack of communication. Nothing can be perfect but those things help immensely.
Thank You, basic common sense. Too many women these days want Traditional Roles but don't want to be told what/how to do bcus it's "misogyny".
If you both have to work then you both have to work. It is what it is but chores still need to be done regardless. You were doing when you were single so what's the problem now. This isn't a thing you can cherry pick at, do the work that needs to be done Together and move forward
Honestly! I’d love to help budget with my husband and cook with him and clean with him. The problem is that so many issues pop up due to lack of communication within couples
Its bringing roommate ENERGY
Facts! If you're literally paying 50% of the bills, you could be roomating with one of your girlfriends
@@nikkilangloismetroatlantaa4857 no cooking. Laundry. Cleaning or child rearing. Just being responsible for ones self.
It’s bringing goodbye energy. Why must a woman bring over 50% to the table….?
Paying all a womans bills... Bring that its my child energy.. Lol.. U want traditional men but u dont want to be a traditional woman.... Western women... Lol... Dumb as fuck
I firmly believe this. It's happened to me twice.
Finally, this part of the conversation is getting more light. As men we can’t expect for women to submit, and be a great homemaker, while at the same time, asking her to be a career woman. If she’s doing both, then you have to do both as well.
Great point! You understand, try and impart that wisdom to your fellow men.
A king!! You get it. And in the end it’s not that difficult to grasp.
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Finally a man with common sense
🌬️💨💨💨 If only more men thought like this!💯💯💯
There are men who are intimidated with 50+. I’ve experienced that and it created some tension in the relationship. Us women have to be extra careful to not to select a man who will feel insecure about it.
Not insecure but irritated by her attitude. Men who bring 100 % don't even treat women the way a woman who brings 50% will irritate a man.
She just made a point for us men.
When women are expected to carry their own weight in a relationship they become bitchy.
Using the word energy to cover up what we know as irritation is just face saving.
@@adolphus2002I don’t believe in using money to be bossy. If a woman acts like that, then she does not need to be with a man and vs versa. Relationships should be enjoyable. A person cannot enjoy a relationship with a bossy person.
I'm glad my husband never brought figures into our marriage.
All of this 50/50 talk makes singleness look good.
Amen hahahaha
Thank You
I'm here thinking i don't even always feel like giving 50 to myself. I think that's why I'm good being alone. I don't have the mental, emotional, & physical space for someone else. Not even to date casually. I BARELY want to go out with friends. Never thought I'd grow up to be that single childless auntie, but i have zero desires rn to commit to anything, pet included, and i don't see that changing anytime soon. I don't even like committing to plans for the weekend. If i want to stay home, bum out in pajamas, and watch TV, i like knowing i can decide to do so. Being stuck in doors quarantined from everyone during peak COVID was not an issue for me. Guess I'm a loner by choice, social if i have to.
Then stay single 🙄 lol
@@khumba-hlakhumba-hladevelo342 I don't think you understand that was the whole point.
I’m just tired of these conversations in general 😩😩😩😩
Same
LIKEEEE,,,, HONESTLY!!!!
Facts. Like who cares 🤣🤣
Im with you one this one
Same, I'm so over it.
I am a single mom of 4 children, a licensed massage therapist and a full time nursing student. I don’t date, so I am okay being that 100%. 🤷♀️
If a single women can do that why is it women with help don’t want to lift a finger ?
Men, you can date 50/50 if you want, but be realistic and don’t expect her to be fit, feminine, and cooperative. Fit, feminine and submissive energy is what provider men receive, you can’t get it if you are 50/50.
what in the blue-pill simpery are you TALKING about?
no they dont ; they get " settled for" until the next chad/tyrone enters the playing-field.
not unless you're a house-hold-name-level rich and famous ; and even that isnt any type of guarantee.
So basically don’t ask for a women to take care of herself or be a good person unless you pay all the bills? Lmao y’all don’t even deserve that because you bring ntn to the table.
Creep comment
You think this woman is? She out the house chasing a bag more than you. If she has kids you paying for that
So why would being 50/50 affect her fitness? Or anything else? Those are commodities you purchase and not personality traits a woman already has or not?
50-50 on bills and the housework and kids. Now we are officially roommates. I want my own bedroom.
I have always thought having your own bedroom was not a bad idea.
However, 50/50 does feels like a roomate situation.
So women should do more & men are just to be waited on nahhh
Exactly
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@@sandracastillo3317 "feel like"??? it is.... and he expects intimacy. You cannot give a man intimacy and your body with 50/50. BW need to stop making decisions out of low self-esteem.
I think men must ask themselves if they want a wife or a partner because they are not the same thing.
Bing!! This is the point right here. Very well said. 😉👍🏾
But women are partners so....... what is the point here? We are here to originally help each other through life. Just choose a woman who understands that. Simple.
🏆🏆🏆 This right here is the real deal. Thank you Sir for your nuanced perspective! This comment needs to have 10000 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
They are the same depending on the context.
A wife is suppose to be a partner, just like a husband is suppose to a partner. What the problem here.
Keep paying 100 fellas. When she files for divorce she’s taking 50 maybe more with alimony. FOH with this bs, I can’t believe they agreed with the bs coming out of her mouth. She was smirking the whole time she don’t even believe that bogus claim. Head energy my ass
Right these people are dumb ass hell your paying 100it while she's sleeping with a broke dude who does nothing for her.
A man who expects a woman to pay half the bills, is not ready for a serious relationship.
With women demanding equal pay in the workforce and getting it they are expected to pay their half.
I was raised by a family that worked together, my mother wasn't a scrounge. They've been together 40 years. My mum earned more. They pool there money together and it's both of therew. No arguments.
If I want to pay money for a woman to be in my life, I'll go see a whore
Modern men want traditional women without being traditional themselves. This is what my husband calls reverse feminism. So many brothers in this comment section upset that women want to be provided for so they can adequately look up to them and honor them. If you want 50/50 just know that she will see you as her equal. Men with wisdom understand this. It's clear single motherhood has not only effected women but it has effected men as well. Bc all they've ever seen was their mom working her ass off.
You are exactly right! The family imbalance physically and mentally is ruining our Community.
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If a man has to be traditional by providing and protecting then he should get a traditional woman in return. THAT'S CALLED A VIRGIN . If you are not one then adjust your requirements ladies
@@MR.DREAM333, if you think a virgin is all it takes, the man can look for a Virgin in peace and carry out his full duties of protection and providing.
@@Jenken297 ...a man should get what he pays for. If she is not a virgin then she must go 50/50. Wealthy men and pretty women are the only ones that have privilege . It's funny to me how average and below average looking women think they can demand ANYTHING
Mind set is key to any situation ! I have been married for 30 years. My husband have always taken care of his family. My husband had a massive heart attack in 2020. I am now the breadwinner. My husband is not able to work like he did previously. Now l do more. When you make vows before The Most High we are to uphold those vows until death do us part. I believe that 50/50 is the mindset of a carnal person. I and my husband work together. The Most High makes sure all of our needs are met. We give the Lord the Glory !! Amen 🙏
Exactly these idiots don't understand 50/50 speaks to the entire partnership or union as a while. Not different sub categories
She basically have the mindset that spells out of control attitude. Hold your head still lol
You're a sensible woman.
How old is your husband when he suffered a heart attack? The thing is I'm worried about how hard my husband works and we both work full time but he works longer hours and doesn't get much sleep
@@zraj3433 have you bought that concern to him? I know I would To my husband! If he could afford to work less hours or you guys have a strict budget so he’s not working himself to death
I pay all the bills, I keep all the assets??? I’m pretty sure the "You pay all my bills” club will take issue with this as well 😂😂😂
Men here in Sweden want 50/50 and it is the first culture shock I got when I came here. I went for a date one time and the guy asked me to pay him 250kr for the flowers he got me 😢 we went to a very classy coffee shop that he had suggested and he only bought himself coffee, since I didn’t have high expectations I bought myself some coffee too. He never heard from me again
Nah, you was just undesired, that’s it.
You did good thing
Men.. If you want a woman who happily splits the bills.. go find her… ladies if you want a man who pays 70% of bills.. go find him. I don’t think anyone is wrong. Not everyone is for everyone 🤷🏾♀️ we all have preferences.
Thank you!!! Get in where you fit in 🤷🏽♀️
Exactly!
Exactly! People doing way too much shaming, when they should just get with people they mesh with. I notice people who do that, are always single and miserable.
THANK YOU!!! I wish I could thumbs up this comment a hundred times!
Finally a good comment
Spot on. Something happens in a woman’s mind when she has to bring half. I can’t explain it but it’s like you get into a different head space. She’s soo right
It’s called enabling your toxicity boo..
The father and mother must bring all their resources into raising the family. What the hell has happened to people? This is how kids end up failing to go to college because parents didnt work hard enough to save anything for them.
even if a wife works to buy groceries and stuff for her husband, herself and the kids she still has to do the cooking, cleaning, DISHES, Laundry, take care of the Kids and take care of her husband's needs and be in shape and be feminine put makeup fixed hair nice nails, feet that is exhausting everything takes TIME and EFFERT. No wonder ALOT of women would rather be single.
@@chulacanija You say that but ignore that in most marriages, the man is having to work extra hours so the woman can afford to get extra time at home to do all those things. I mean lets just be real for a second, would you rather be at work for an additional 16 hours each month or spend more time at home doing all those things you mentioned?
Coz if society didn't shame us, men would chose that any day.
@James E I see and yes we're all mad here j/k everyone is exhausted maybe that is why there's so many divorces nowadays days. And it doesn't help when there is no communication.
Each person in a relationship has to bring 100%. They don’t have to put their needs above their partners, but they have to 100% of the time consider how their behavior and their choices will affect their partner. Each partner is 100% committed to being considered of the other person’s perspective. They do not have to agree on everything they do not have to like the same things. They do not even have to compromise. They need to find a third option. We’re both of them get their needs, met without any resentment.
Confident men don’t care if a woman brings 50+ because he’s so secure in his masculinity that hes actually proud of her
Yeah yeah...but is he prepared to do 50% of the cooking, housework and childrearing??? Or is he too masculine for that?
so paying for some 304 is being secure? haha how many only fans you simp for?
No such thing as confidence
His masculinity that doesn't actually exist? Sounds m ental to me.
I do Not believe that a woman is supposed to be going 50/50 with her husband. We wear a lot of hats as women. We are the nurturers of the family, we are the nurse when the children and husband is sick, we go through the 10 month process of childbearing (the 1st four weeks we don’t even know we are pregnant) we are the ones who adds a woman’s touch to make a house a home, and lot of us work outside the home including myself, and we still make time to ensure everyone has clean clothes, in some cases we are Chef and find time to cook. Yes, some men cook too if they have time to, but most times the women take on that responsibility and we also have to keep up our appearance, make sure to try best to stay looking beautiful: hair and nails and try to stay physically healthy, be great lovers between the sheets and still EXPECTED go 50/50. That’s definitely a man trying to send you to an early grave ⚰️
1000 percent agree
@@ebonymiller3545 Okayyyy! Absolutely Nuts! They Grown Man/Children are not ready for a relationship, they are looking for a roommate they can have sex with! NOT happening over here 😅😅
@@nickysunshine8734 yess glad im single they not gon stress me out
I mean……😂😂😂 Men in general do more inna relationship then women. If ur in relationship where u feel ur doing everything either ur masculine, or the guy u picked is only on attractiveness and no other qualities. Protection isn’t 50/50, 100% the man or else we all die. Leadership isn’t 50/50 unless children are involved and even with that in mind decision making majority of time in a healthy relationship men have the final say. But for some reason every time I hear 50/50 it’s always related to money 🤦🏾♂️. Gotta stop putting this narrative out there. It’ll only lead to more singleness and bitterness for no reason.
@@ebonymiller3545 😂😂😂🤣🤣… Lol @ not going to stress you out! Well some do and some are not bad. I’m married, but my husband doesn’t NOT have the 50/50 mentality. So I’m good… have the most generous and caring husband.
I remember when my ex and I broke up. I got a higher paying job doubling my salary. He wanted to get back together and I thought we could work it out. But he wouldn't stop asking me how much money I made. I never wanted to share that info because we weren't married or living together. He got mad cause I wouldn't share my salary info with him. He only wanted to know so he could get me to pay for more stuff. He rarely paid for anything and I never signed up to be the breadwinner. Some men want women to carry the load. It's a lot
That's Cap.
You signup to be the breadwinner when you make the money to support breadwinner lifestyles
@@edavis8560 so she is supposed to continue to live in poverty? lol
@@vonking9118 If you have to use "cap" for the term lie then you're not intelligent. Men do this all the time with nurses. It's called "nurse with a purse." Some of these travel nurses are pulling $8,000- $10,000 a WEEK and their partners are at home sitting down. Even staff nurses are making $40/hr as new staff nurse. Then you factor in the overtime and the differential pay for the weekends or working night shifts and your talking $65-$70/hr. I went on a date with a guy and I made the mistake of saying my income because he asked randomly but then his eyes bugged out of his head. Next date he made me pay for his food and my food. When the check came the guy serving us gave him the check then he looks at me and was like "hey bri the check" and he came up with a lame excuse of why he couldn't pay. I paid, but that was the last time we went on a date and I never saw him again and don't ever plan to lay my two eyeballs on him again.
Lies lies lies all lies stop the cap 🧢
50/50 is bringing the, I’m not doing all the cooking/cleaning/laundry energy. And the I’m going to have my own bedroom because you’re my roommate energy.
Finally! A black woman admits that men “get what they pay for!” It’s ALL about them dollars fellas!!!
So basically, they admit to be prostitutes, got it! 😂
This is so true. Men don’t realize that being fifty fifty means fine I’ll be fifty with you but most women who make money also do most of the cooking, cleaning, errands, child rearing, etc. which is not fifty percent! They want a woman to do all the traditional things at the same time adding a modern twist that does not support the traditional things you want to see with your woman.
And women never touch mowing the yard, servicing the car, taking out the trash, killing spiders, lifting anything, putting anything together, opening jars....
@@DeadlyPlatypus 😆😆😆😆 killing spiders we see your job! Dearly
@@DeadlyPlatypus lol yikes. I don’t know anyone that’s so incompetent that they can’t put together some ikea furniture. You know they make grips to help open jars? They’re
@@chunli99 "Servicing the car is just going to have the car looked at."
Yikes...
Standard minimization of any male contribution by just claiming a woman can just pay ANOTHER man to do it for her...that's how women "do it themselves. "
@@DeadlyPlatypus Neither do most men
This is a fair statement and women need to understand what is expected when a man is paying 100%. Nobody’s financing your life for non compliance, not even your employers.
Facts
A woman also doesn't wanted to be treated like a doormat because you're financing her life. Some men let their provider status go straight to their heads and become arrogant.
@@symonelewis1690
A woman isn’t a doormat for complying. She’s a supporter/submissive/subservient to the man and the family. Just as I let him take the lead and “let it go to his head”, I take the support and humbly be proud of it. Yes I make moves that help my husband save. Yes I homeschool and take care of my kids. It’s a worth deserving of pride- to be both a leader or a supporter. While I don’t agree with stating claiming “ownership” to women, upon the general rule isn’t a modern man that I know who thinks this way. Leadership is by setting the example, not being a tyrant. You have to know the man you choose to lay with, and sub out those minorities from your selection.
Edit: I changed supporter/subservience to supporter/submission/subservience
Choose what you see fit.
@@iCurvaceous 🎯🙏🏽
@@symonelewis1690 How much money anyone makes doesn’t give anyone the right to treat anyone like a doormat, man or woman. Btw some women act the same with finances, I’d say its a people thing. That being said BOTH men and women CHOOSE the people they want to be with and the QUALITIES that come with them which includes the way they treat you/finance your life. So if you have a problem with the way a man or woman is treating you, financing or NOT financing your life the power is in your hands to move forward rather than give that person any more of your time no? Otherwise once you choose a person you innately are choosing to comply with them both men and women. If you dont want to comply/cooperate stay single and take care of your own finances. I think we can all agree that neither men or women are entitled to anything even funerals cost money🤷♀️
As a woman who brings 50 myself, I LOVE this conversation because it’s so true.
This is a message that real men already understand. It’s the men with mommy and daddy issues, who need to learn. If you want a traditional woman, you must be a traditional man.
My father is traditional and my mother brings 50 and she is still very feminine with him. So she supposed to act masculine because she has a life too? Lmfao wtf
They can't choose
@@Xenlacasa45sorry to break it to you but your father is not traditional if your mother HAS to work
@@Tired92he's more than likely lying 😂
Y’all aren’t traditional. Most of y’all on the internet half naked and look up to rappers baby’s moms. Nobody wants to marry that
you going to have to cook these 50% of the food, 50% of the laundry. We are splitting everything 50 smh
Yup if not I can go do it alone it's not hard
50 percent of the time when the car gotta get done, yard work, defending the home, running to the store during storms n shit too
@@marc3030 why not?
@@Danielle.91 y not what?
they never do though. Its literally married womens BIGGEST complain with their husband.
I agree 100%! You can’t have it both ways you can’t have it that we’re equal whenever it is time for you not wanting to fit the bill fully but we’re not equals whenever you wanna throw your weight around and you want shit to go your way or the highway.
The problem is in these conversations we’ve turned life love and relationships into a paycheck. We live in a society where inflation is crazy. I’ll make enough money to pay all of my family’s bills and I told my wife to work and continue to build her career because you never know what may happen next And the day may come where she makes more money than I do that has nothing to do with leadership in my house. A lot of women are holding men hostage to a paycheck and if you’re going to do that, just go find a man that is rich and you won’t have to worry about that. If you have a man in your life that you don’t respect, then you don’t need to be with him but let’s stop making this about a paycheck.
Even if she makes more money that's okay! But it's about not EXPECTING that. Not expecting her to pay
As soon as she makes more money then u shes gonna take all of what u have
Sir, you do know that the way you presented it is not bad. Obviously, there is inflation, but the people she is talking about are men who do not lead but want 50/50 and to lead with no plan.
You sound like you are a man with a plan. There are also people who just put her money to work in other areas but focus on living on one income to ensure the pressure remains lower.
Anyhow, I don’t believe her message is for you. I think you get a pass.
@@Regina.Clarke I think my issue is times have changed and women want to choose between what’s convenient for them in a given situation. No woman really wants to be dominated anymore like the 60s and women have fought for equal rights and empowerment rightly so. So I don’t think that this should be a conversation because women have the same earning power as men do but I think women have to be selective and be with men that understand who they are what they want and they’re able to lead without dictating. Because we’re living in the day where women don’t want to be dictated to leadership with understanding and empathy and not dictatorship. 50-50 does not make you a roommate. It makes you partners building a legacy for the future. It’s just all about how you view it and how it’s set up in your home.
Good point. That's why my wife just buys groceries and stuff for the kids with her money cuz I got all the house stuff on lock.
👏🏿👏🏿 thiSss!!! His WIFE & NOT playing "house"!! 👏🏿👏🏿
Great husband right here ...
Are your kids not a part of your household?
We can do this!!!
Groceries are house stuff...
The sister is absolutely right! A sister who brings “50 plus” to the table is a breadwinner, intelligent and can think for herself and now she’s to play the submissive wife, that makes absolutely no sense.
So your saying just because she bring 50% she don't have to be submissive, and still do wifey duties, then the man don't owe her protection, or anything else. If u women honestly think this way, get a cat and die alone, ur logic is stupid as fuck.
Plus wtf are we supposed to be submitting to like what are they leading I'm so confused on what's going on and what people are asking for like I could have swore relationship was about love and not control
If you’re paying 50% as a woman you don’t have to submit, just know why and what you’re in the relationship/roommate situation for get yours and do you
@@artaviusferguson4985Why even be in a relationship at all? I bet women cant even get turned on sexually by a man like that.
Yeah, they want an independent woman they can boss around????.....lol
Children & pets are taken care of. Grown women get exactly what they give or get nothing. STAY SAVAGE FELLAS😂😂😂😂😂
They say a roommate but vvomen want a janitor, a man to clean up their debt, poor choices in life and erase their body count magically 😅 Basically, they want a free ride still...
A good male friend that says 50-50 in a relationship is never going to work because it takes away from him being the head of the family.
You misunderstand 50-50 which is a basic concept.
Exactly
I do agree with you. However I do find it amusing that modern women strives for equality where it’s convenient and undermines it when it’s inconvenient.
@@atlanta1290 detail/elaborate? Although I get your meaning..I just wanna read your male perspective. 😁
@@justlynn5693 I believe the man is the head and leader of the household. Much of the responsibility falls on the man. We are called to provide a vision for the family as well as safety, shelter, nourishment etc. This is achieved in partnership with his wife however a man has to take responsibility for his family.
My comment about equality was a tongue in cheek remark about modern feminism and equality as it opposes stable family foundation.
she's bringing 50% along with "I'm tired 🚫 tonight" 6days a week.
That's fine.. always have a backup when they actup. The side piece will help out
@@vanderumd11better believe they have a side nigga as well. Remember they can play the game better 🤷🏾♀️
@@SammyNdlovu1212 it's really not the same. A man in a woman's friend zone is a loser. He is spending time and resources on a woman who isn't giving him any. I could care less about a simp in the bushes. The question is there a top tier successful man willing to Wife up my leftovers a day after I've bust inside of her. If so... Good luck to that man lol males and females are just not the same. A man's drive is to get as many women as possible to show his worth. Women want the best possible man they can get to commit and provide for her.
@@SammyNdlovu1212 That’s fine as long as the bills stay 50/50
50% AND a backup? You ain't the one.
These women think we want dependants
Lol woman can provide for themselves, where have you been?😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Women are just saying don't demand a women who will, clean, cook, look after children etc, working and paying half of bills while u think, u are still the head of the house 😳😳😳😳😳😳.
exactly itch you an adult and cried to be treated equal now you are equal and privileged like you wanted
@@powerisknowledgeTVyou gotta a problem with someone wanted to be equal? That’s the same way the white men thought when they were hanging y’all Asses
Then carry 100% of the couch solo
People no longer understand the value of family, the benefits extended to its members, and the kind of sacrifice it takes to maintain one.
Yes. So lost. And it's so sad. Cuz of garbage like this.
Women are making money now. The world has changed
@Kimberly Taylor no disrespect, but please stop thinking that everybody just wants what's best for you. Divide and conquer is a VERY real strategy. The most organic form of security that every person on earth has is Family. It's the best safety net in the world. Once that safety net is destroyed, and everyone is cast upon their own resources with no one to help if things go left; the only one who wins is the one who makes the rules.
It's not about people having money. It's about power. Let's stop listening to false narratives, reestablish our families, and bring power back to our communities.
Well said...
And people don‘t understand love and companionship anymore, there is too much calculacting and underhanded tactics going on.
50/50 is a roommate or homie. I would never take a man seriously that’s looking for this type of dynamic
Equality?
Never! Coochie dry just thinking about it
You having sex w/ your roommate? You marrying your roommate? You think your roommate is dying for you? Fighting for you?
Also, in the court system in 2022, if the man pays for everything he also has to pay alimony. If bills are 50-50 he is less likely to pay alimony since both parties carried the bills.
So since you not giving up 50/50
Then what is the woman's role to become equal in a healthy relationships?
There's more to being a woman than having children& being a homme maker.
The way i hear it nowadays females feel that they are the prize and don't need to add/ bring anything to the table.
If we both make the same amount of money I’m not paying for everything
My parents did 50 50. My parents kept brand new cars, diamonds and gold and brought a brand new house when they was 20.
Women if you broke just say that…. We will cover the bill. I always help the less fortunate.
😂
The fact that you have to have this conversation says leave them right where they are they will figure it out sooner or later . TF!
Indeed.
🤨 Everybody is tough and knows a lot on the internet. 🤣🤣
This is one reason why modern day relationships don’t last. Both people are competing thinking as individuals instead of thinking as a team. This rhetoric is being pushed everyday but it’s getting relationships nowhere. Many don’t even make it past the honeymoon phase. Why do y’all insist on doing the same 💩that hasn’t worked?
What has worked? Lol. Nothing has worked. So new things are going to need to be tried.
Why is your understanding of this automatically “competing”? Do you really think women don’t have great idea and insights? My husband and I come together to make decisions and it works wonderfully. I have some experiences he doesn’t and Vice versa. So sometimes we agree my approach males more sense. Sometimes his does. How is this concept so foreign and automatically bring you notions of strife? 🤣. It’s working together eith someone. Very simple. Kids learn to do this in elementary school lol.
50/50(100/100)is teamwork....equal and fair teamwork....
@@dulaneygibson2014 You just wanted to say something didn’t ya? Nothing about your anecdotal response applies to anything I said.
@@HollyG95if I knew that I’d be a billionaire. Now you tell me what about what this women said was new?
The question remains, what does a man who brings 100-90% get from the deal? Your 'presence' is not the answer.
My Mom worked & she paid specific bills like insurance, all, cheaper through her job & still stayed submissive 💯‼️❗CAP, JUST BC A WOMAN CONTRIBUTES DOESN'T AUTO GIVE UP SUBMISSION 💯 MY MOM STAYED FEMININE & HELPMATE NO MATTER WHAT 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯
Preach you literally get what you pay for❤They want a hybrid situation they want her income but still want to run everything and tell her what to do and make all the decisions including finances and have her care for the kids and home 99% of the time
Preach!!!
That's because so many women currently are doing it just to have a man, and you can't tell the women doing it any different 🤷
So men are paying MORE to end up with a broke girl who will just leach off him. So you're saying that marrying a bum is the best value? LOL girl, tell me you're broke without telling me you're broke.
@@skinnyguy7773 That’s what you got out of my comment 🙃
A couple of things
In no way am I being condescending
I will explain it better since you missed the point in its entirety. I often hear men say things such as “my grandmother cooked cleaned and took care of the kids I want traditional”.
So I ask them well did your grandmother work they always say no. Then I ask well the way this economy is set up are you able to provide for the family while the woman stays at home most say no.
My parents were married until my dad passed my mother didn’t work outside of the home other than getting a few dollars at a department store around the holidays for gifts. She did all the cooking all the cleaning and helped us with homework etc. BUT SHE DID NOT WORK OUTSIDE THE HOME
My dad worked he never had to come home cook or anything because she took care of that as it should be.
Sadly I know women who will work just like the man sometimes making more money who literally drive themselves into the grave early because they work and come home and do EVERYTHING driving kids to activities ALL the cooking all the cleaning.
They let themselves go they lack sleep they gain weight too exhausted for frequent sex and they work themselves to sickness while the man who works just like them sits back and relaxes and doesn’t do much some of these men won’t even cut grass they pay someone or worse some women do it.
So when I say hybrid situation that’s what that is. So basically a hybrid situation is a situation where most men can’t afford traditional but demand traditional by having the woman do everything traditionally
instead of ONLY taking care of the home and family AS her only job
she STILL works a full time job outside the home.
Hats off to women who don’t take care of themselves, I plan to be here for my grandkids not dying early because of slave labor. If she takes care of them home and kids pretty much 100 percent and doesn’t not work that’s fine and ideal
But if she does ALL of that while a man is there and she works just like he does she is being used. He will contribute helping with kids and cleaning I have no problem cooking all the meals but there is no way in hell I would work FULL TIME LIKE HIM AND COME AND DO EVERYTHING
What you just described sounds like a pimp where I'm from lol
Sistas please just Divest lol I promise you, they don’t have those “50/50” “Struggle love, ride or die” convos over here. (Unless they’re dusty identified) My husband of 3 years, is Italian-Caprese & Sicilian and the way he’s exemplified what true Manhood & Leadership is, is Ineffable! In his culture, it’s an insult, for a man to financially survive off of a woman. There is no honor, for an adult
male, who can’t or won’t provide, for his family.
I adore, respect & revere him, like the king of all Kings & he lays every glorious wonder, of this world, at my feet 🤎🤎 Tesoro mio!
That's funny because alot of white women work. If you think the majority of white women married or in a relationship, are sitting at home, and living lavish then you are delusional 🤣🤣🤣. I live in socal, and just about everyone white couple i know, who are living in lavish live in a dual income household.
Sista
Dude is lost. Men are to lead, but bringing what to your feet? 🤣🤣🤣
Serious question: were you childless when you married him? Many BW can't "divest" with another man's children in tow. We have to be honest that it's cultural and not racial.
🤦🏽♂️ Don’t come selling these women false illusions like “just divest”. Just bc one outcasted Italian couldn’t get a woman of his own race and decided to dive through the dumpsters of the black community and found you in the gutter.. doesn’t mean that every black woman would be so fortunate. Black women have the highest obesity rates and are known as the poster child’s for bad attitudes and combativeness, that’s why no man of ANY race is checking for yall. You’re setting your sistas up for failure. Bw can get smashed and passed around by European men at best.
And stop talking about divesting like it’s some brand new strategy, bw been gagging on pink sausage since Loving Vs Brown, but only .00001% of y’all will actually marry a snow king. You will always be considered the most unattractive to men of other races. The only thing is that now even black men are realizing that we can’t continue to set our standards this low, with a passport we can get a non western black woman who isn’t built like Lizzo and doesn’t wear red weaves and bonnets in public. Pasa buena ✌🏾
“You get what you pay for”. And women wonder why they are treated like products. 😅
If you think this means a woman is a product, get help
exactly
I have a question... as young male ( 18 ) who is starting his male adulthood journey, i recognise the fact that my role in my future family would be to Protect and Provide while the woman cooks and cleans... But if my future wife is also working a job, do i lose the expectation that she has to cook and clean? Because, nowadays, i dont see how one could provide for a family yearly and keep up with expenses and holidays with just 1 persons wages ( average 50 k ). So wouldnt you need both people in the relatioship to work? ( and therefore she could make the argument that she doesnt need to carry out her role? or is that a sign of a bad woman? Cuz if the man is protecting, but only providing to the point where all his wages go into bills and no extra things like holidays, pets, kids. hobbys, vacations, then should the woman have to work aswell? And even if the woman works... im protecting my family.... so should i still expect my woman to cook and clean for me? and take care of the house and the kids? Thanks!
If you’re both working, then you’re both cleaning and cooking. Simple.
@@aarontoalet Does that mean both are taking out the garbage, changing car's oil, and facing a home intruder? 🤔
A woman that does 50/50 she'll cheat she'll disrespect him boss him around 😤
My husband was not down with that 50/50 thing from the beginning. But he knew it was the thing I needed in the beginning to feel safe. Once I saw he was a safe person for me to trust, I no longer did the 50/50, and it enabled me to also trust him enough to reproduce with him and let him handle all of the bills while I was so vulnerable.
It's OK to go Dutch in the beginning. In fact men prefer it as well to avoid getting scammed by Free meal ticket 304s.
Once the guy knows that the girl is safe to be around and not scamming him then they can enter their masculine and provide.
Well said I like ur reasoning
Yes If I have to bring 50% your no longer wearing the pants probably some capris! But not pants! Because at that point I'm doing all my job AND half yours!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣Capris...great analogy!
Capris??!! Too funny!!
Capris 😂😂
NOT capris showing his ankles 🤣🤣Dang at least khakis
Do you now the system has designed it this way do men find to hard to get a job
But the woman can,
To break up the black home and you ppl.are falling for it.
I did once and will never do it again
Our nationality is the only nationality having this type of conversation! This is a cultural thing. African Americans do not have cultural culture, unfortunately, because we were born in the States and not born and raised in our native countries. Our nationality really needs a lot of healing. 🙏🏾🌈🦋
The partners have to really analyze their situation. Before my late husband died he worked so I could stay home with the kids. We ended up starting a business. When this happened I was still at home with kids, household chores, running the back office, setting up the business on the back end, being the customer service rep, and still going on jobs with him and did physical labor. At that point I thought it would become 50/50 and he would help me out around the house or at least with the kids, dinner something. But I still ended up having to do it on my own. Men need to be upfront with what they really want from that woman. But the biggest aspect is knowing they can't have their cake and eat it too.
I’m so glad to hear someone else say this….thank you. It makes absolutely no sense for a man to want an alpha female, then try to turn her into a submissive
The moment she brings disrespect because you're expecting her to reciprocate financially, is the moment she's done acting a fool because I'm out.
That's important as advice right there don't listen to that mess as a woman you could bring a hundred and still keep a man on a pedestal. I'm 33 years in a marriage and currently I bring 100 my husband is still my head and feels 100% in control because I know how to give him the reins!
My wife makes over $200K a year. I also know 20-25 women bringing in six figures. And none of them act the way woman speaks of. And the majority of them make more money than their husbands.
Ok girl, do you. If you want to “submit” to a man who brings nothing to you for literally no reason then go ahead!
If I got to pay 50%, fine, then I want my own bedroom.
That’s fine
Exactly
Why not just stay single and pay 100% instead of doing all that?
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@@tsizzle6228 ikr dumb shit
Well, she sounds like a strong independent black modern age woman that don’t need no man, who gives great advice to single women, to keep them single
My money is my money, her money is her money.
I’m that woman who brings 80-100% and remain a lady holding my own. That means I can have it all with you or without you while maintaining it all if you decide to leave. Pick your poison sir. 💁🏽♀️
Right
I honestly don't gaf what my spouse makes. I make enough on my own to support myself and then some and have for a long time and continue to. Always put money aside as well.
The dumb thing is, people acting like money makes you more important in a relationship. I see it as household income "WE" make together despite being a breadwinner or not.
Percentage is dumb anyhow in this case as if I make 100k and she makes 500k it's not like either person is gonna be hurting in life. I find you only need so much in life to live by and I always live well below my means. Relationships are way more than money folks.
I understand what she is saying, me splitting everything down the middle makes us equal like roomates because I'm putting in just as much so you wont get the same reverence as being the head or leader of the family. Then there are guys that expect the woman to contribute half but still be responsible for all the cooking, cleaning, and washing...no, that would need to be split as well
It seems based on these comments that women just want to live off men. Live for free and let the man work and spend all his money on them (bills dates trips gifts) and they keep their money. And base "the table " as being being pretty and sex. That's simply not enough. There are too many women that are pretty and giving sex.
@@Mr1Musiclover If a woman wants that then they wouldn't even go half. There are women that desire and want sugar daddies and to each iits own but if you want a roomate then that's what you will get if you expect a women to split bills down the middle. Most women are not going to serve you and put you on a pedestal like a king...plus, if I'm splitting bills the household chores will be split as well. My husband and I have been together for 27 years, married for 20 and he has never asked me to help pay the mortgage. He keeps a roof over our head as a man is required to do Biblically and I pay the bills, but to each its own.
Some people, practice slavery and endenturement. And some do not.
Lady 50 50 is more than just bills 🤦🏾♂️. that example you gave would be like 70 30
@@LKS-M9323 exactly, if you want 50/50 you want a roomate and not a wife. Men can get a woman that will settle for 50/50 but she's not going to cater to you and put you on a pedestal like a king. A woman should feel like she needs her man and a guy going in 50/50, is replaceable...my sister can move in and go half with me if we ever seperate. You do know that women have only been allowed to work in this country for about the last century (100 years) so prior to that everything was on the man, many countries still don't allow women to work but even the Bible says a man is to provide and shelter his family spiritually and physically. A man had to pay an endowment and bring the woman's family gifts of gold, silver, live stock and other precious things to show he had the ability to take care of her. That's why the father walks her down the aisle and gives her away. He said I have raised, provided for, and protected my daughter and she has carried my last name...I am now handing her over to you to do the same. You will now provide for, protect, and cover her and she will carry your last name. It's a partership and the woman contributes in many other ways than just finacially. My husband says the men at work get jelous of him because while they eat out for lunch and he unpacking pot roast, collards, mac and cheese, and cornbread. Also, I don't mind making him salmon croquettes, grits and eggs before he leaves but if we were going half he could grab a frozen breakfast sandwhich to heat on the way out. It's not the same level of reverance. We've made woman enpowerment, liberation, or being equal to men the norm and that's why the black family and our kids are messed up. I do work but I don't have to stress myself to bring in a salary equal to his because my load is lighter. So far it's worked for us 27 years and his parents were married 35 years before his father passed away. What we are doing now ain't working and the black family is suffering.
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She's absolutely correct. As a guy, if I expected my woman to bring 50%, I should also expect a "no" to 50% of my requests and expectations while saying "yes" to 50% of my wife's requests and expectations.
I'm happy at about 25% 🤣
I thought they WANTED equality?
The best relationship I ever had was when my ex used to pay and take care of all the bills. I never saw one bill. I rarely asked him for extra money to do this or that. I made sure the house was clean, food was cooked, and his clothes laid out/ironed. I truly appreciated everything he did for me, even til this day. I get what she's saying though because I've definitely had to bring more than 50 percent.
Well your relationship ended so something happen
@@Jane5720 sounds like it was her
Fault if she’s bragging about the relationship 😂
@@jericothompson8636 yeah I chose my daughter over a man.. so it was my fault to end it. 😒
@@Jane5720 yes, he didn't want children and I had a daughter... so obviously I was going to choose my daughter over a man. He thought I was like other women that would leave her kid with her parents all the time and I didn't. If I wasn't working then my daughter was with me.
Either way I learned from it all, and I appreciate him regardless of it ending. I've moved on and he moved on. I'm married now.
Any man that says 50/50 to me is automatically a roommate. We ain’t doing no couple shit & you get no priority treatment
No men would want you except simps that's why you just have roommates
Marriage will always be 50/50. Even if he pays for the major bills the money you have left behind will still go back to him, in the form of saving for a mortgage, saving for kids tuition, saving for vacation etc...That is what is means to be a family. This is why originally, after a divorce, people split their assets 50/50..it was because they all made contributions.
If it's 50/50 money wise as a permanent arrangement, I will feel like I'm doing more. At least more than I should. Resentment will likely follow, eventually. Even if I earn half of what my husband earns, it's best he covers more of the bills, and more of my extra goes into savings or investments for the family, because of the money I'm also bringing in, in reality.
I will still see him as a provider, that way. I will feel taken care of by my husband, if it is configured that way.
Even though we 'earn the same amount'.
I can't really respect a man who is okay or comfortable seeing me carrying the same burden as him.
Rightly or wrongly, that's how I feel.
And no sx.
Be careful some guys will accept that and just go find sex some place else most guys don’t want to do the couple shit and holiday extras just sex
Somebody better tell him
I don’t want 50/50…I want 100/100 because I’m bringing ALL of me to the relationship! Of course that means without OUTSIDE PERCENTAGES!
This money shit is excuse ls for certain behavior to be tolerated. Instead of people just being who they are. With accepting that you might be single, because of who you are, and what you like. Money just enhance who you are. It enhances what already in you.
I have said it forever,money doesn’t change people just further adds to what was already there.
Exactly! Money shouldn't be the deciding factor on if you can be a trash person or not.
Money enhance what is already inside of a person how please explain?
@@b.e.r.nnetwork8251 money has made some people worse
@@jchapful Simple most men like multiple women correct? A man who has options, but don’t have the Money typically can’t maintain it. So when you got 🍞 it enhances what’s already there. You got money now that man has 2 or 3 women, and is like this is what is or move around.
Most MEN that I know don’t care about a woman finance and I go into a relationship with the 100% mentally anything she brings to the table is bonus
That’s because those are real men you know.
Lol, what state or country are they in? They’re definitely not up here in this region of the United States (NY, CT, NJ, etc)…
Yeah ok look who's complaining these are the same one's broke looking for a come up, I don't care how much a woman makes but how much do you owe, most of these broads got huge student loan debt (and Biden ain't going to forgive these loans, thanks to the supreme court) and other debt, you would be a fool to marry someone and don't care what their financial situation is and their spending habits are, that's simp move and then you gon be in jail due to domestic disputes over finances and then she gon take half lol.
You just stated a fact, I have never in my entire life heard or seen a man asking for 50/50 in terms of finance, most men would prefer a supportive woman that can support in her own little way, maybe this picture she is painted is in the USA.
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Men didn't ask for women to bring 50%, Women did by demanding equal pay. You've brought it on yourselves ladies 😂
Women don’t like to pay for nothing; even the ones that say they are boss chicks. They want a man to pay for everything. So when you say she should bring 50 50, her 50 comes with disrespect and bossiness.
@joeficent50blogtwr
Say some women NOW today it's some Men want the same thing
I'm Single no worries
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That's the whole point. If you want her to provide like a man then she'll be disrespectful and bossy "like a man."
Contempt, I believe, is the word you are looking for
@@Umeshukitsune It doesn't matter what you have done for a woman, she will still cheat with the pool or some broke ass man and complain that you work too much. Friends with benefits is the only way to go.
exactly they cried for equality but dont want the responsibility that comes with it
When you're married, it IS a team effort. There is no 50%. It's always 100% from both people. I feel sometimes we forget that!
Now there are some exceptions to that 100% from each person. If there's a major surgery, maybe death in the family, or some life changing event, then you must pick up the slack from the other person. Therefore it needs to be a team effort.
She’s talking about provision/protection and their natural effects on both feminine and masculine energy/nature.
Big facts, and I really appreciate the fact you said TEAM EFFORT, that’s the major key
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Exactly 💯
Darnell know darn well he want his woman to cook, clean and take care of the babies majority of the time
So true..... , I had one of those 50/50 men and I never respect him. He proposed and I said No.
Why, what was the reason?
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Why did you stay with him long enough for him to propose? Losing respect for someone should equate to ending the relationship...
yet he got to fk on you for a period of time. yall tell on yourselves. that comment wasnt empowering or a flex.😂
Are you married now?
As an older woman; it shocks me today how young men see women as money making opportunities. Growing up; men WD not let you put your hand in your pocket. They thought it demeaned them. And it was an insulting way to treat you. Literally; even men who had only just met you WD not see you paying for even drinks; taxis; food. They WD always say" We got this". They WD not take money from a woman.
Yall shouldn't have asked for the right to work then. How about that
lets rephrase this.
As an older person it shocks me today how young see people others as money making opportunities.
@@freemanmike47Funny how she didn't say anything about that.
@@ImAgentK those women weren’t sluts and without any modesty so how about that?
@@freemanmike47having the right to work doesn't mean wanting to work it means being able to work. Stop being useless
My fiancé and i have a 50/50 arrangement until we’re married and honestly I like it bc for one he ends up paying more monthly anyway. gas, groceries, our outings , my car maintenance my hair and nails etc 5050 may not be so bad as long as your not with a dusty
A key component of this concept is the "ask". A man making a woman brining 50% out the gate no matter what is going to evoke a different response than "I want to give you the world and I'm doing my best but for now we have to work together to make ends meet. " One sounds and feels to the woman that you are not that into her, don't REALLY care about her and are not willing to make any sacrifice. This will produce a woman thT will struggle to relax, and fully trust you. In short it matters WHY you're asking a woman to pay half..
The why (at least for me) is simple…… I just want to know that you’re as equally invested in this as i am. I’m just trying to make sure that I’m not being manipulated and/or used. I’m actually not a person who cares about what a female has on a monetary level, but when it becomes a STIPULATION/OBLIGATION that i finance this relationship…… Houston we have a problem
@Anthony Greer I sincerely understand your logic. But men and women show their commitment and investment differently. Have you considered that requiring that a woman show investment the way a man would is putting her in her masculine energy and thus sabotaging what could be a solid relationship?
The point is relationships are a risk men and women do their best to mitigate risk through vetting not insulating themselves with requirements they dont trruly care about, now you're not being yourself either...game players get played. I truly hope you rethink this strategy all the best to you and feel free to share your thoughts!
@Nairobi Zebdi so please enlighten us how women show their commitment and investment.
@@TheDatingGame I want to know as well
@@reneebrown4610 They’ll never outright say it, they’ll just beat around the bush & try to shame you into thinking that you’re the one that’s outta pocket by wanting to know that your time isn’t being wasted & what you’ll get for your investment
Facts. Now this is not a contest but Once I started making more than my husband, he made it his mission to go out and make more than me. I asked him why and he said because there cannot be 2 head of the household. When I thought about it I was like I know that’s right. 😂
It’s disgusting that you’re agreeing that just because you make more, that would make you head of household. Put your dick away and let him be the man. You women are weird
@@hospitaladministrator3359 Before I put it away… get on your knees bih. 😂 Plus… my husband agrees. I actually get to rest in all my femininity. 🧖🏾♀️💅🏾💆🏾♀️ 🧚🏾♂️ Don’t be mad. 🤭
@@user-wn2es2ie8g Life is unexpected.
You don't necessarily have to make more money to be the "head". It's really predicated on who is the more powerful sex with is almost always the man.
You have a good man. He wants to provide and not mooch off of you or become your project.
Stats don't lie! Who can pay these rent & utility prices alone in this day and age? We're living in inflationary times. It's an easy fix. Just live alone and pay for everything thing yourself so you're solely responsible, so the only energy you have to deal with is your own! These conversations are useless and they present the problems but never any solutions whatsoever.
This is literally why men should get paid more😂😂😂
Facts! If she’s equal, she’s equal. You clean up, you plan a trip, you pick up the kids. Equal! I don’t need a leader. I need a partner.
Well said Sis! The restraint used in the wording, well done ❤!
She doesn’t even realize that she is not making sense , she is basically saying you can pay her to be a good woman but if she has to pay for anything then she is going to give you hell , why would I tolerate such a woman
50 50 doesn’t make sense because how are y’all going to also go 50/50 on the house cleaning, taking care of kids, grocery shopping.. etc. If you’re gonna split the bills then everything else needs to be split for it to be fair. and that’s just impossible.
It would need to be split over all tasks, not for each individual task. Or do women also want to start fixing roofs, maintaining cars and such?
If you can’t afford a woman leave us alone.
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The purpose of a woman is not to take what she can from man, and then having a judge help you steal from a man. Both the judges and the women they helped bring men down in their favor are all going to Hell.
Period lol
Cool. How much you cost ?
This!!!!!!!!
We’ll said that’s what 50/50 damn near roommate status . Head to head
Hi edagdwg God is soooooo real pay attention to who you are as a women I don't care about what I do with my man in my life I believe in helping each other to live a we life not as a women I'm soooooo blessed to know God for myself as a child of God share love is sharing our life together stay strong and enjoy your life Linda j peace
Women get so worked up when it comes to paying a bill but ready to spend all types of money on shopping and splurging they say happy wife happy life and that's bullshit It's called support one another you got me and I got you it's just that simple
Very true and well said. The expectation men have for a woman to be and maintain being feminine while expecting her to pay 50% is counterproductive. That is what creates competition. Its essentially saying share my role (that is designed by nature) as a man to provide. Maintaining a valuable and healthy womanhood takes more time, money, and energy than the maintenance of manhood. Having to provide automatically puts a woman in masculine energy.
@@jwoods9659 Do just that. Valuable women are not interested and are staying away and single from guys like you. A “real” man is what a valuable woman wants. Dusty 50/50 feminized men are not the prize or in our radar. Thank you for recognizing that it’s best you keep your income and stay in your lane.
@@sade9425 because I don't find giving every single dime I make to you. And God forbid I get sick I can't work any longer you lady's will be gone poof the next day. My mother stood with my step father while he went through cancer I won't hold my breath that I will find a woman that will do the same for me. Men are more than open wallets.
Women producing children are already bring more than 50 percent - the men cannot provide anything of equal value.
@@Lafemmefutile true about the giving birth. Real good men do provide a lot of value though.
No I just have enough sence to know the divorce is planned out before the wedding.