When im done im going to launch a quick optimization pack for original hardware like this. It should help performance by about 15%. There is some stuff in memory the devs added that you cant even see thats just wasting video memory bandwidth. I also remove some stuff you generally cant see even if you are looking for it to speed up the render. Will be using the Prey editor too. The performance on that GPU is such trash it makes me think you could maybe do something in the cvars to fix it (preyconfig). The memory bandwidth isnt the issue. I know the Radeon 9800 Pro is a beast vs FX gen, but it shouldnt be that pathetic.
Thank you! Youre right! Prey needs something like GTX 7900 X2 for stable Framerate and some eye candy. But i like the oldschool AGP Pipeline Era. And im really amazed what the Radeon (2002 stuff) can do. ☺
@@blastfromthepast3073 Patch is in the description. It only applies to one level. Full game optimization version will come soon which im using for a RTX 4090 but it scales to any machine.
@@blastfromthepast3073 yeah, I switched from SN45gV2 3200+Barton R9800pro to an C2D IntelMini with GMA950...it was a hell of a ride. After that I switched to iMac 24" and later 27" now I am using a M1-Mini. That CPU/GPU is VERY! powerfull and totally silent even under 100% load. Best Mac I got so far.
Can you check if this card will operate correctly in XP with the old 45.32 driver? I'm trying to figure out whether the NV38 is truly a new chip (as evidenced by the Quadro FX 1300 not booting with 4.532), or just a clock-bumped NV35 as rumored back in the day.
Im currently running a FX5900 and Quadro FX3000 with 43.45 on WinXP and it works just fine. I believe that the NV38 is just oced 35. I can check it out in future.
@@blastfromthepast3073 The FX 5900 base model and Ultra are NV35 for certain. It's the lower-cost and PCIE versions, that is, FX 5900XT/ZT, PCX 5900 and their Quadro counterparts, that are in question, while the FX 5950 Ultra is the ur-example of NV38. Different sources disagree on whether these are NV35 or NV38, and I can personally attest to the Quadro FX 1300 not booting on anything below 52.xx, although this could be related to the PCIE interface instead, which is why I would like to see this tested on the AGP "known or suspected NV38" cards as well.
Dig up carcase of FX 5950 ultra and kill it again with Prey and ATI Fine wine card. And if FX 5950 Ultra is blower style well you suffered enough just for this video :) Prey is such underrated game. And it runs on new hardware out of box.
@@blastfromthepast3073 So its FX jet engine style, but keep it in good condition 5950 ultra rare very rare. Yeah most people do not even know it exists, and when they discover it they love it. Doom 3, Quake 4 but Prey is the best in my opinion, Great video thanks for that.
@@RaPtOr9600 Thank you my friend! I will hold that card in good condition for sure! To keep it alive i use a normal Quadro FX 3000 instead of Ultra. But it's nice to know that im not the only one who like Prey. Back in the days it was mindblowing. Even today.
@@blastfromthepast3073 Yes it is, some dark moments in the game and some incredible effects, those portal effects and gravity changing are still impressive. I always fire up Prey on old GPU just to see how it would run.
Forcing shader model versions is probably not possible with opengl like it is with directx simply renaming dxversion and even if we mean dx8 hardware, shader model is direct x technology. Opengl is its own thing technically.
MSi build the 9800XXL for a german Discounter. Its a 9800XT with 128MB and a little slower Memory. Best buy if you like to have a 9800. Cheap and fast.
This is ATi fine wine. ☺
When im done im going to launch a quick optimization pack for original hardware like this. It should help performance by about 15%. There is some stuff in memory the devs added that you cant even see thats just wasting video memory bandwidth. I also remove some stuff you generally cant see even if you are looking for it to speed up the render. Will be using the Prey editor too. The performance on that GPU is such trash it makes me think you could maybe do something in the cvars to fix it (preyconfig). The memory bandwidth isnt the issue. I know the Radeon 9800 Pro is a beast vs FX gen, but it shouldnt be that pathetic.
Doom 3 engine based games sure aged supprisingly well. They are still looking fine even in 2021.
Yes! Games with IDtech4 still look awesome!
@@blastfromthepast3073
This game has a memory leak on the level All Fall Dall that I just fixed which will help the performance of those GPUs.
What an amazing game! But I see that it’s probably played best on newer hardware… Ha, ha.
Thanks for the insightful benchmark!
Thank you! Youre right! Prey needs something like GTX 7900 X2 for stable Framerate and some eye candy. But i like the oldschool AGP Pipeline Era. And im really amazed what the Radeon (2002 stuff) can do. ☺
@@blastfromthepast3073 Indeed, so am I.
Ahhh aha I still have a FX5950U laying around. Should fire it up some day haha.
Thats a nice and unique Graphics Cards! Maybe its not fast in shader intensive Games but very fast in older Stuff with AA enabled. Keep it alive!
I have one in a Athlon XP 2600+ Windows XP pc as well. Didn't even know it was a rare card till now.
@@blastfromthepast3073
Patch is in the description. It only applies to one level. Full game optimization version will come soon which im using for a RTX 4090 but it scales to any machine.
What monitoring program do you have?
@@valentinhorvath6602 MSI After Burner my friend ✌️
I played that first on MacMini with GMA950 :) Was not a good experience. On later integrated chips like 9400m/320m it was quite good.
You have to be crazy to play Prey on intel GMA. 😅 Even Doom3 is horrible on GMA. But you're right! Prey runs fine on 9400M.
@@blastfromthepast3073 yeah, I switched from SN45gV2 3200+Barton R9800pro to an C2D IntelMini with GMA950...it was a hell of a ride. After that I switched to iMac 24" and later 27" now I am using a M1-Mini. That CPU/GPU is VERY! powerfull and totally silent even under 100% load. Best Mac I got so far.
Launched a basically patch for this game to improve the graphics.
Can you check if this card will operate correctly in XP with the old 45.32 driver? I'm trying to figure out whether the NV38 is truly a new chip (as evidenced by the Quadro FX 1300 not booting with 4.532), or just a clock-bumped NV35 as rumored back in the day.
Im currently running a FX5900 and Quadro FX3000 with 43.45 on WinXP and it works just fine. I believe that the NV38 is just oced 35. I can check it out in future.
@@blastfromthepast3073 The FX 5900 base model and Ultra are NV35 for certain. It's the lower-cost and PCIE versions, that is, FX 5900XT/ZT, PCX 5900 and their Quadro counterparts, that are in question, while the FX 5950 Ultra is the ur-example of NV38. Different sources disagree on whether these are NV35 or NV38, and I can personally attest to the Quadro FX 1300 not booting on anything below 52.xx, although this could be related to the PCIE interface instead, which is why I would like to see this tested on the AGP "known or suspected NV38" cards as well.
@@NetRolller3D Im very sure that i used Forceware below 50 for 5950Ultra.
Dig up carcase of FX 5950 ultra and kill it again with Prey and ATI Fine wine card.
And if FX 5950 Ultra is blower style well you suffered enough just for this video :)
Prey is such underrated game.
And it runs on new hardware out of box.
Thanks for pinup!
Haha yes FX Blower Design is quite noisy. I don't know why Prey is so underrated its a brilliant Game! Its so much better than most of modern stuff.
@@blastfromthepast3073
So its FX jet engine style, but keep it in good condition 5950 ultra rare very rare.
Yeah most people do not even know it exists, and when they discover it they love it.
Doom 3, Quake 4 but Prey is the best in my opinion,
Great video thanks for that.
@@RaPtOr9600 Thank you my friend! I will hold that card in good condition for sure! To keep it alive i use a normal Quadro FX 3000 instead of Ultra. But it's nice to know that im not the only one who like Prey. Back in the days it was mindblowing. Even today.
@@blastfromthepast3073
Yes it is, some dark moments in the game and some incredible effects, those portal effects and gravity changing are still impressive.
I always fire up Prey on old GPU just to see how it would run.
Hello. What processor was used in the rig?
Hi. I used a Athlon X2 6000+
Can you disable shader 2.0 and enable 1.4 on the FX card? The difference in performance should be huge.
Forcing shader model versions is probably not possible with opengl like it is with directx simply renaming dxversion and even if we mean dx8 hardware, shader model is direct x technology. Opengl is its own thing technically.
ATI Radeon 9800LE? PRO? XT?
Its a normal 9800 Vanilla.
@@blastfromthepast3073 awesome. R3xx, R4xx and R5xx are amazing
@@Stermy57HW yes they are ☺
Apparently there's a Radeon 9800XXL.
I'd like to see someone benchmark that eventually.
MSi build the 9800XXL for a german Discounter. Its a 9800XT with 128MB and a little slower Memory. Best buy if you like to have a 9800. Cheap and fast.
Ati power, the 9800 is over twice as fast
i remember trying the demo on a fx5500 and it was horrible
I did that with a 5200Ultra too. Absolutly no chance for a good gameplay. 🤣
@@blastfromthepast3073 it was the same result with the quake 4 demo 🤣 I finally played it with Intel HD 4000 and I couldn't even get 60fps 🤣
@@crocodilegamer93 the funny think is, that q4 runs quite good even on GeForce 4ti. 🤣
What was the point in testing on such a demanding game? FX 5950 Ultra struggles hard and definitely the game is not playable using FX 5950 Ultra.
That's the Point.
It really shows how the ATI was just the better option in that series.... the FX Series from Nvidia really struggled there :)
I really like FX but ATi was the better option for sure!
Fx gpus had a lot of issues especially with dx9
@@troglodude980only sm2.0, openGL and older games runs better on FX cards.
Nvidia even tried software cheating with drivers to get more performance at the cost of quality haha