His abdication was the best thing to happen to the British monarchy. He was so morally compromised and his brother was the picture of morality. King George and then Queen Elizabeth saved the Monarchy
Yes! And there wouldn’t be scandals with illegitimate children trying to claim the throne once Windsor passed away, which we all know would’ve happened!
David and Wallis definitely give off the same train wreck vibes that Harry and Meghan do. I’m enjoying this book and your review tremendously! Thank you so much.
I agree totally with the queen mother's position as allowing the exiled David back to the UK and given any formal role would have undermined her husband
I didn’t know that it the the Queen Elizabeth then who was at the forefront of exiling the couple. Was this decided just after he stepped down before the coronation? I know she was bitter about his abdication bc she felt that the responsibility put on her own Husband would be too much for him. He was a gentle soul. As it happened WWII was just around the corner, snd it was definitely a strain. He smoked a lot for his nerves, and it was the main reason for his untimely death. I’m surprised that his dr didn’t tell Elizabeth that her father was going down hill fast. Was this exile open and definite, passed by the government? If so, when?
This is how David had money. Remember he was the Prince of Wales and as such got all the revenues from the Duchy of Cornwall for years and he kept all of it for himself and he wasn’t taxed on it, and did not go towards any expenses, so he squirreled all that away and hid that amount from his brother when he abdicated. Also, as king, he owned Sandringham and Balmoral outright as those are not Crown Estates and the new King had to BUY these from him and the King was obligated to pay David back in installments. So he had LOTS of 💰.. The parallels between these two pathetic Windsors and the whingeing Sussexes is just eerie..
King George v is reported as having said " After l am dead Edward ( David ) will ruin himself within 12 months.I pray to God my eldest son will never marry and have children,and that nothing will come between Bertie and Lilibet and the throne ".
About the hotel living situation. This would be much different than yours. They were in a suite of rooms. Imagine if you spent your summer in a penthouse suit with every amenity and the cash to do whatever you wanted. Full on concierge room service. Dining in swanky upscale restaurants. Full staff. The works. They were not suffering.
To spare the current King blushes for his grandfather, King George VI was actually named Albert (called Bertie by the family) and used his 4th name, George, as his name regnant. He was never called Prince George…before becoming King, he was Prince Albert, Duke of York. He and David had a younger brother with the first name of George (George Edward Alexander Edmund), who was later named the Duke of Kent. This brother with the first name of George is the Prince George who was being blackmailed by the gigolo. He had a scandalous reputation. He died in an air crash in 1942. His wife was Princess Marina and he was the father of the current Duke of Kent.
How interesting. I feel so ignorant about my own Royals. What a confusing way of using their names. I totally would not have thought that the late queen's father did bad things though. He stuttered and seemed studious and no hell raiser. He left that to the others.
The then Prince ALBERT, Duke of York, when his brother abdicated, was strongly advised that, he should minimise his subjects distress, by using his late father's name, George, as his reginal name, to make the royal transition easier. Poor Bertie wasn't expected to be a very good King...
The Queen Mother was smarter than just about anyone. She knew exactly who the Windsors were & was intent on being her husband's strongest supporter. She was absolutely correct in arguing against their return. I don't know if this anecdote is true but my mother always claimed that Hitler called her "Europe's most dangerous woman".
There is no greater protector of the family than the woman. And that what Queen mother was. You can go as far back and as the early years of the monarchy in Britain and you will see all the matriarchs power and forces in protecting the children and their family
It’s crazy how a former royal’s life decisions can make me feel better about my life. 😂 I have it pretty darn good being in a wheelchair. I’m not married to someone who is never happy, I’m happy. I’m not associated with any extremist political parties. It’s all perspective, people! 😊
As the queen mother said to a journalist at a little tea gathering....there can only be one king in a country at one time. And she never forgave David for the stress he cause King George that she felt hastened his death. George VI was a wonderful, much loved king and gave us a most memorable monarch besides himself, his beautiful Elizabeth II.
...something I have realized as I grew older is that around the world, members of royal families and prominent politicians have a proclivity of carrying on with or marrying women that have questionable pasts (i.e. basically had been sex workers at one time). As a child I had seen these women through the media lens as graceful, poised, moral, elegant, and high classed - but in actuality it's a complete eliza doolittle moment for many of these women when you start looking into their lives. I just read that after Wallis' death, her jewels went up for auction - at that time it was found that several pieces of jewelry for sale had actually been claimed as stolen in London in 1946 - so David and Wallis participated in insurance fraud as she never again wore the jewels in public after collection of insurance claim funds.
As I have gotten older my instant criticism of immoral young women who have turned to prostitution. We don’t know the backgrounds they have it why they may have turned to what we consider a degrading and dangerous way to make a living. Drugs snd alcohol addiction can destroy natural inhibition. You don’t know what they experienced growing up. If you criticize the women who end up in these situations, shouldn’t you criticize the men who partake of the way they use these women?. Poverty and drug addiction can lead people to do all sorts of things we find repugnant. Desperation and despair can drive people in many bad directions. I do think the extremely wealthy people who jet set around the world, doing frugs on huge yachts or mansions. M… there is definitely an element of that. The poor may be more prime to the same thing. They have nothing to lose. The middle class who are doing all they can to work hard, keep up a house, and do their best for their children… they don’t have time to be indiscreet! And possibly their mores are more ingrained within their culture. With social media news spreading like crazy, most of us somewhere in the middle class are more apt to stick to the rules. I think if Catherine, Princess if Wales snd what a wonderful job they did with their 3 children, and then down to their grandchildren. Their hime was full of warmth and love. Their children were taught to be their best selves. They also created an enormous company with huge profits, which enabled them to educate their children at the finest in the UK. I am in awe of them. Covid took their children’s party pieces down and they have had to sell out. They created their own destiny, and gave their children self confidence, a love of the outdoors, and the importance of Family. We should all be so lucky to have a solid foundation like that growing up. I think that may have been part of William’s enchantment with Catherine.
Regarding the bit about their neighbor, the one who retrieved the blackmail letters for his brother George … remember, all the royal children had other names before they got a title. The “George” in this instance is their youngest brother - a playboy who I think was later killed in an air fight during WWIi. Duke of Windsor’s younger brother who became King George VI was actually named Albert and called Bertie in the family. Let’s not blacken that poor, decent man’s reputation with the blackmail letters of their youngest brother who was really named George. (These family names do make for a real jumble though, don’t they? 😂 )
Yes, I was just about to make the same point but decided to check first whether someone else had noticed. By the way, the name Bernard as in George Bernard Shaw, in Ireland and England is BERNəd, not BernAHD.
George did die in a plane crash, though not in battle. He was on a quasi-diplomatic trip to Iceland, but there are numerous questions surrounding that flight.
You are such a luxury and treat to spend time with! We moved from Dallas last year to living off grid in the Ozarks. While I do love this lifestyle in my late 50’s, it is such a treat to listen to your reviews and reading the comments. It’s like a book club in the middle of nowhere. I’ve certainly been praying that you and your family are feeling comfortable and settled in and making new friends!
I was so confused for ages that King George VI name wasn't really George, and that had a younger brother who's name was really George (Duke of Clarence)!
Wallis called Elizabeth “Cookie”? Can you imagine how Elizabeth felt meeting Megan? That same kind of disrespectful, cheap trollop? Like a recurring nightmare!
Cheere Denise is a GREAT STORY TELLER! I love her analysis, her explanations and attention to little interesting details and summations… can’t wait for more after this book!
……to read why W & E called her ‘Cookie’, may I suggest you read book, ‘The Queen Mother’, by Lady Colin Campbell. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was a narcissist. She was a truly nasty piece of work. She was manipulative, conniving & dangerous, same as someone else currently. The book is a real eye-opener into her horrid character…………
This has become my Sunday treat so I brew a coffee and sit and enjoy. I have to say I googled the alleged illegitimate son, the actor Tim Sealey and he definitely looked like Windsor. The thought that his offspring and descendants where and are scattered over the world is shocking, I wonder how many of them know.
So many similarities to H&M. No jobs, gave up royalty while still pretending to be a royal, big house, servants, security. Then there's Henry himself. No friends, spare to TW etc. Theu wven took pictures in HM doll house. It's almost like they're doing this on purpose.
Wallis grew up as Maryland elite. Her mother and she was supported by a rich/business man uncle. She married a pilot who was alcoholic and divorced him so uncle cut her off. She hung out with her best friend then married Earnest who treated her great. He was half British and went to England. That's in a nutshell. Earnest married the best friend.
I think you are so right about a life of wealth and leisure becoming boring. When every one of your darkest fantasies have been fulfilled, what is left for them to live for? Nothing in life is exciting. Many millionaires actually commit suicide.
10:30pm on Sunday night over here in Australia! Time to listen! I remember reading the chapter about David's alleged worldwide network of illegitimate children and frankly being surprised that he could manage it if you know what I mean. The guy is such a sook. Does not give "sire of many" vibes lol
Prince George, who apparently was being blackmailed, was NOT the later king George VI, who used to be prince Albert, but decided to take his father's name (and his own fourth name) to restore faith in the monarchy, as far as I have understood. Prince George was David's and king George VI's youngest brother.
Thelma,Lady Furness was an extremely famous American with a twin sister who became the mother of Gloria Vanderbilt, thus a great aunt of Anderson Cooper. There are books written about her exploits.
Sadly, this decadence is still the norm of the elite. It doesn’t change the fact that it is disgusting and should be revealed so it can be renounced and restoration can happen. Makes my skin crawl.
I swear there is a certain level of wealth which trips a switch in the brain and turns our taste dial to 'Dictator Chic'. Every now and again, as you read, it strikes me that we're talking about the 1930s and that the Depression was barely over, certainly not recovered from, and what a bizarre, out of touch, compassion-free life they lived.
Cheere, I could read the book but i would miss the brilliant insights you provide.i really look forward to your weekend readings. You are such a treat.Thank you .
The government and the church wanted him gone due to him being such a threat...so, they forced his hand and actually knew he would make the choice he did. The world was better for it.
But, when he began seeing Camila seriously after the divorce, he would phone her husband would answer and just hand over the phone like, ‘it’s him’. And she’d go into the other room to chat as long as Charles wanted to. That went on until the ‘tampon’ scandal when her husband had to divorce her from embarrassment. Charles could have whatever he wanted. And her husband had to go along. That’s how it works with royalty even now.
You've got it wrong- Diana was fan-girling after Charles. She set out to snare her older sister's leftovers. Aided & abetted by her grandmother (Lady Fermoy, friend & Lady-in-Waiting to t Queen Mother) & Charles' grandmother (the said Queen Mother). Diana was not an innocent wallflower; she wanted to be Queen one day. She grew up reading Barbara Cartland's Regency romances (like the books the Bridgertons Netflix series are based upon). Cartland was Diana's step-grandmother. They wanted an illustrious match for the Spencer girl; that's how it was in those circles in those days. So stop believing that Diana was NOT complicit in snaring her real life Prince!! She could've settled for a lesser rank, bit she aimed for the most eligible bachelor in the world & got him! The rest is history....
I didn't know he was an infantilist, I wonder how far he took it? Did she give him a dummy (pacifier) to stop him crying, maybe put him in a nappy (diaper)? The mind boggles.😵💫
The little girl's pearl necklace story sounds typical - I'll be Wallis would take a dim view of letting any jewellery escape. What was shocking to me was how un-kingly and un-noble it was. You'd expect a king (or king-to-be) to have a feeling of loftiness. This was petty - snatching goodies from a child. But he was a petty person. I think a lot of people didn't want to believe that; they were invested in the idea of kingship and wouldn't admit that David was just a bum who happened to be born in cushy circumstances.
Alexander Larman's book The Windsors at War, published this year, has even more details about this critical time period. Very well written! Highly recommend!
Amen-I’m traveling and can’t keep up as much as I want. Thank you for bringing them up in prayer. (…and to think I’m freaking out because my face has decided to break out. Sheesh). 🙄
I am saying prayers. Very worried for all-out War., I don’t understand how Israel had no clue. A daughter spoke to news. Said they were there as a family to celebrate Yom Kippur. They are huddled in a hotel. Safest place for now.!if Hamas shoots an American plane taking people out, I assume Biden will retaliate. If he gets it at all. Last time he saw Netanyahu he did the sign if the cross.
@@DebbiSmithDCdon’t worry about your face,, it’s a matter of a few days and you will be fine, yes this is all Bidens fault he provided the Money for the attack on Israel!!!
There really is an instant replay w H&M‼️ Sense of entitlement is astounding 😤 really enjoying ur videos especially appreciate ur values, which seem rare today 💜❤️💙
Just finishing off Revenge and can't wait to start on this one! Thank you for your insightful, humour filled take on these books - it is a delight to listen to you ❤
Kabosh my new favorite word🤣🤣🤣 not surprised the elite pass each other around its been happening for centuries. Henry VIII and the Boleyn sister's just an example of parents using their offspring to cement themselves with the crown. It's mind boggling how peasants have a higher moral compass since they are merely peasants after all. Love listening to you! Your sarcastic comments are plucked right out of my mouth 😘😘😘😘😘
Exactly what I want to know! When Wallis saw where David was going, why didn’t she say “I’m not marrying you so just cool your jets and keep that throne.”
I'm not sure what i enjoyed more in this episode - the constant stream of revelations proving the money doesn't buy class or the schadenfreude I derive from your reactions and commentary 😂. Oh wait, it's definitely the commentary! Thank you for putting so much fun energy in to these posts.
Thoroughly enjoying your reading and review of this book and learning so much in the process. What a pair of deluded fools these two were and the parallels with the Gruesome Twosome are somewhat unnerving. Looking forward to the next chapter 👍😊
9:15 or thereabouts: The Duke's brother George was likely Prince George the Duke of Kent, not George VI whose names were Albert Frederick Arthur George and who picked George as his titular name to link back to George V. Prince George Duke of Kent has long been rumored/believed to have have been gay and once went into the officers' mess wearing a dress but not as a joke which it would have been passed off at the time, as homosexual activity between men was illegal at the time and cross dressing was just SCANDALOUS. So he would have got a royal pass. (It is said that lesbian activity was not made illegal either because Queen Victoria did not believe it happened or the courtier who got to explain that legislation to her did not want to describe the activity to her. Or maybe both. oh, and not saying George VI might not have had some hanky-panky (with M or with F) in his past but it would have been hushed or the other party would have remained silent. Lady C has said he favored women, in her biography of the Queen Mother. BTW Prince George died in 1942 in a plane crash, he was the pilot I believe.
Abdication was absurd for such a woman. I never knew so much stuff!!! So, abdication was not for love, it was self indulgence of a worthless man. Your commentary is brilliant!
Your book reviews are beyond entertaining. When you said "the dictator whisperer," I almost spit out my coffee. Though I've read this book, hearing your thoughts is much better. Thank you for a fun way to start Sunday. If you're interested in the background of Wallis Simpson, I'd recommend the book That Woman.
I’ve never known a man who was into “Miniatures”. Women, yes, we are always charmed by doll house furniture, Hallmark Christmas ornaments and even the little McDonald toys but Men - Not so much!
I think it depends upon how you define “miniature”, if you believe that a miniature means porcelain figurines of ladies in fancy dress, then yeah collecting miniatures is more common among women. But since miniature means something reproduced in a smaller scale than in real life, model railroads are miniatures and are far more collected by men than women. Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars are miniatures, Star Wars action figures are miniatures, and so are collections of tin soldiers, and all are generally more popular with men than women. So I disagree with you, men collect miniatures equally or nearly just as much as women because something being smaller than in real life does not describe a gender, it describes a size.
Sorry, I didn’t realize that Cheere had said essentially the same thing. I hadn’t gotten that far in three video when I wrote my comment above. I do stand by men collect miniatures too, but I wouldn’t have bothered to point it out to you had I know when the comment started.
Hello. It's nighttime and the end of a very busy day. I am exhausted and just laid down for the night. Listening to you is so calming and relaxing as well as funny..youn ewws and yucks made me laugh. Very enjoyable and entertaining the way you narrate and break down the lifestyle of this couple. The parallels with Hand M are astounding, ecen down to the way they used the press Thank you for sharing.
I don't think he wanted to be King. That's why he insisted on marrying her. I don't think everyone knew back then. I do understand why the church,politicians and the royal family rejected the union during that Era.
I think there was so little social mobility back then, that 'what everyone knew' was probably all too true - many families would have had a son or daughter who was in service up at the big house and knew what went on.
I always wondered if David and/or Wallis knew they would be in exile. They can’t go back to England! I wondered about children for the too. I’m not surprised that he was bisexual . Wallis grew up in Baltimore. She was with the 2 older women. Aunt Bess and other. I think she simply determined she wanted more. Not as crass as Meghan Markle but a similar situation. I have not read her biography for years. Probably should read it again. There certainly are a lot of bi-sexual or Gay. Oscar Wilde was pretty racy and coarse, but in the salon set in London. My life feels so Boringly upper middle class. Unsure how they determine economic class.
Lady Frieda was expecting her daughter to have a pearl necklace with with around 20 pearls from David (though easily fewer, depending how old she was when the custom started) after he'd given her one per year on her birthday till she grew up? LOl.. I hope they were very LARGE pearls. As entertaining and easy to listen to as you are, you must be a GREAT school teacher. A long, long time ago when I was in school, if a teacher was entertaining my attention was captured. Alas, there weren't many like that in my schools, it was also pre-ritalin et. al.. Most often my thoughts flew out the window after the first five minutes, no matter how hard I tried to restrain them from doing that.
What is it with Royalty, they have everything money can provide yet they toy around with the extremes of human reproduction behaviour. To extremes! Maybe everyday poverty is not so bad after all.
Your right it is always morally wrong to have an affair. It’s heartbreaking to me. Possibly they justified it because often they didn’t marry for love. Maybe that’s why it happened so frequently.
No the brother being blackmailed was the youngest brother George, King George didn't take that name until he became King. Kind of confusing. As for Thelma Furness, she was the Maternal Aunt of Gloria Vanderbilt, Great Aunt of Anderson Cooper. There are so many stories about David's sexual conquests, when he was Prince of Wales, instead of greeting the hostess who was throwing a party for him, he instead was too busy carrying out the seduction of a local official's wife. When he received word that his father was sick and possibly dying, David shrugged and went on to spend the night and most of the day in bed, again, with someone else's wife. I've never heard the bisexual angle but considering that he and his youngest brother George (Not King George VI) ran with a crowd who slept with whatever and whoever struck their fancy, and who all indulged in rampant drug use, I guess it's possible. Prince George, actually went through detox with David there with him taking care of him. King George V, actually commended David for his loyalty to his family. David is a very confusing figure, because you're never 100% certain what his motives were for doing the things he did, both good and bad.
I too, would like to hear more about Wallis Simpson. She was clearly the brains of the outfit. David really seems to have been not just morally defective, but intellectually disadvantaged as well.
Here's the thing though. Wallis was still married when she started the affair with David. David concocted the plan to marry Wallis when she was still married. To be honest, I can see why the powers that be were like, no, we will not countenance you marrying a divorced a woman when you are the one who engineered her divorce to suit yourself. Shades of another King David and Uriah the Hittite.
I don't think it was about him doing the right thing by wanting to marry her. He was the head of the church of England & she was a divorcee. The church of England would never recognize the marriage b/c of her divorces. So he would then be bringing his mistress out into the public a his queen. The church could not allow it! I haven't had time to read this book yet, but does it talk about how parliament walked out on him? Had he not abdicated, he would have thrown England into chaos as a king without a government?
Except for George V and George VI, they all had mistresses AND were head of the Church of England. Such were the times. Great video, thank you very much.
I didnt think I could learn something new about the Windsors... but the children???? I had no idea he was spreading his seed hither and thither - Wow! Thanks for another brilliant episode xx
Honestly, his children are probably better off without him, other than money. It’s true that there was a tradition of Royal men/the Gentry having affairs, generally these lasted for a while. That doesn’t excuse it. David’s bisexuality was an open secret. I admire that Wallis also had affairs, although the people she chose to have them with were questionable. It was grubby all the way around. Though there was no place for David & Wallis, or point to their lives. Maybe we should expect them to have found trouble and intrigue, as a substitute for excitement, wherever they could. Their stipend from the Royal Family was £20000 a year. At the time it was a huge income.
I am shocked that I didn’t know this. He is scum. If he won’t be there for them, you bet he needs to come up with $$. How many many kids? I am disappointed. Did Wallis know about these kids? All I’m aristocracy, or staff, prostitutes?!
Princess Grace Kelly married in Monaco. Not long into the marriage he began to chest. Do these people have no expectations of moral behavior? After some time, Grace got her apt in Paris and had her own lovers. She had had lived in Hollywood, as young as she was.only saying this because it seems the rich are different than you and I. Their mores are just not the same.
Your commentary makes me think deeper on these subjects. I love that. I don’t know if it would be worth your time but another interesting set of books that involve some of these people. Consuelo Vanderbilt , the American heiress married the 9 th Duke of Marlborough. By marriage she was cousins with Winston Churchill: throughout her life she was among the rich royalty set and knew almost everyone that were prominent of that era. The duke, later married Gladys Deacon. Another fascinating person , who knew almost every prominent person of that era. Hugo Vickers’ book, “ Sphinx” and Consuelo Vanderbilt Balsan wrote The Glitter and the Gold. James Brough: portrait of an American Heiress which picks up where Consuelo’s book left off and cover the rest of her life. I’d love to hear your commentary on those , but I realize not everyone is fascinated by them lol .
As far as 'Who's bringing in the money?', I hazard a guess that he probably had a huge stipend from his brother plus a large payoff when he abdicated. Possibly inherited money too.
Something that has always struck me when the comparison is made between the Windsors and the Sussex's is Frogmore Cottage. One couple is buried there and it's the other couples official residence in the UK as stated on the RF website (still current as of November 2023)
Tim Seely, the rumoured illegitimate son of David, died in May 2024. Pictures of him early on in his career as an actor show a remarkable resemblance to David.
His abdication was the best thing to happen to the British monarchy. He was so morally compromised and his brother was the picture of morality. King George and then Queen Elizabeth saved the Monarchy
His brother also chose a good wife who understood duty.
As Denise said, a good man raised Elizabeth...the best thing that ever happened to England
Agreed.
Yes! And there wouldn’t be scandals with illegitimate children trying to claim the throne once Windsor passed away, which we all know would’ve happened!
Amy ~ ABSOLUTELY! xD
David and Wallis definitely give off the same train wreck vibes that Harry and Meghan do. I’m enjoying this book and your review tremendously! Thank you so much.
She’s the best. I want too be her assistant!!! She’ll need one in 6 months min
Minus the moonbumps:)
I’m talking about Denise LOL
Other way around. 😁 Harry and Harry's Wife are giving off The Duke and Duchess of Windsor 'vibes'.
Totally agree!!!!!
Holy Crap the complaints about the places they are staying, and trying to find a home, sounds just like Meghan with the whining about Frogmore.
I agree totally with the queen mother's position as allowing the exiled David back to the UK and given any formal role would have undermined her husband
Absolutely! I was proud of her
Also there were two other brothers that were available to help. In fact having David out of the way was a blessing
I agree with all three of those comments and there they’re really good points
I didn’t know that it the the Queen Elizabeth then who was at the forefront of exiling the couple. Was this decided just after he stepped down before the coronation? I know she was bitter about his abdication bc she felt that the responsibility put on her own
Husband would be too much for him. He was a gentle soul. As it happened WWII was just around the corner, snd it was definitely a strain. He smoked a lot for his nerves, and it was the main reason for his untimely death. I’m surprised that his dr didn’t tell Elizabeth that her father was going down hill fast. Was this exile open and definite, passed by the government? If so, when?
@@susanmoorhead8762 Go watch the Kings speech with Colin Firth and it’s factually correct
This is how David had money. Remember he was the Prince of Wales and as such got all the revenues from the Duchy of Cornwall for years and he kept all of it for himself and he wasn’t taxed on it, and did not go towards any expenses, so he squirreled all that away and hid that amount from his brother when he abdicated. Also, as king, he owned Sandringham and Balmoral outright as those are not Crown Estates and the new King had to BUY these from him and the King was obligated to pay David back in installments. So he had LOTS of 💰.. The parallels between these two pathetic Windsors and the whingeing Sussexes is just eerie..
What you wrote about David is true. He had the money from the Duchy and sold the private estates back to his brother. So few people know this detail.
King George v is reported as having said " After l am dead Edward ( David ) will ruin himself within 12 months.I pray to God my eldest son will never marry and have children,and that nothing will come between Bertie and Lilibet and the throne ".
About the hotel living situation. This would be much different than yours. They were in a suite of rooms. Imagine if you spent your summer in a penthouse suit with every amenity and the cash to do whatever you wanted. Full on concierge room service. Dining in swanky upscale restaurants. Full staff. The works. They were not suffering.
To spare the current King blushes for his grandfather, King George VI was actually named Albert (called Bertie by the family) and used his 4th name, George, as his name regnant. He was never called Prince George…before becoming King, he was Prince Albert, Duke of York. He and David had a younger brother with the first name of George (George Edward Alexander Edmund), who was later named the Duke of Kent. This brother with the first name of George is the Prince George who was being blackmailed by the gigolo. He had a scandalous reputation. He died in an air crash in 1942. His wife was Princess Marina and he was the father of the current Duke of Kent.
How interesting. I feel so ignorant about my own Royals. What a confusing way of using their names. I totally would not have thought that the late queen's father did bad things though. He stuttered and seemed studious and no hell raiser. He left that to the others.
The then Prince ALBERT, Duke of York, when his brother abdicated, was strongly advised that, he should minimise his subjects distress, by using his late father's name, George, as his reginal name, to make the royal transition easier.
Poor Bertie wasn't expected to be a very good King...
And the father of Prince Michael of Kent. 😊
Just commented on this. You beat me to it ❤
@@Paula-Galgo
Prince George, Duke of Kent was also the father of Princess Alexandra of Kent ❤
The Queen Mother was smarter than just about anyone. She knew exactly who the Windsors were & was intent on being her husband's strongest supporter. She was absolutely correct in arguing against their return. I don't know if this anecdote is true but my mother always claimed that Hitler called her "Europe's most dangerous woman".
@onmylastnerve282 I have heard that Hitler called the Queen Mother that too! She was indeed the most astute member of the royal family!
There is no greater protector of the family than the woman. And that what Queen mother was.
You can go as far back and as the early years of the monarchy in Britain and you will see all the matriarchs power and forces in protecting the children and their family
He did. She had the love of her people and that terrified him.
She was indeed known by thst moniker
As Georg Hegel (German philosopher) said: “The only thing that we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history “.
Sadly true! WHY????😞
My favorite is "History is written by the victors." Churchill is usually credited with first saying this, but its actual origins are unknown.
@@flyonthewall8122 Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.” Winston Churchill
It’s crazy how a former royal’s life decisions can make me feel better about my life. 😂 I have it pretty darn good being in a wheelchair. I’m not married to someone who is never happy, I’m happy. I’m not associated with any extremist political parties. It’s all perspective, people! 😊
As the queen mother said to a journalist at a little tea gathering....there can only be one king in a country at one time. And she never forgave David for the stress he cause King George that she felt hastened his death. George VI was a wonderful, much loved king and gave us a most memorable monarch besides himself, his beautiful Elizabeth II.
...something I have realized as I grew older is that around the world, members of royal families and prominent politicians have a proclivity of carrying on with or marrying women that have questionable pasts (i.e. basically had been sex workers at one time). As a child I had seen these women through the media lens as graceful, poised, moral, elegant, and high classed - but in actuality it's a complete eliza doolittle moment for many of these women when you start looking into their lives. I just read that after Wallis' death, her jewels went up for auction - at that time it was found that several pieces of jewelry for sale had actually been claimed as stolen in London in 1946 - so David and Wallis participated in insurance fraud as she never again wore the jewels in public after collection of insurance claim funds.
Oh my gosh that’s true so true I forgot that
Their money & prestige protects them. Many, if not most, of our celebrities have a good bit of shadiness going on as well.
She was a piece of work, and so was he.
Gross. Imagine being so rich and living in such mental squalor.
As I have gotten older my instant criticism of immoral young women who have turned to prostitution. We don’t know the backgrounds they have it why they may have turned to what we consider a degrading and dangerous way to make a living. Drugs snd alcohol addiction can destroy natural inhibition. You don’t know what they experienced growing up. If you criticize the women who end up in these situations, shouldn’t you criticize the men who partake of the way they use these women?. Poverty and drug addiction can lead people to do all sorts of things we find repugnant. Desperation and despair can drive people in many bad directions.
I do think the extremely wealthy people who jet set around the world, doing frugs on huge yachts or mansions. M… there is definitely an element of that. The poor may be more prime to the same thing. They have nothing to lose. The middle class who are doing all they can to work hard, keep up a house, and do their best for their children… they don’t have time to be indiscreet! And possibly their mores are more ingrained within their culture. With social media news spreading like crazy, most of us somewhere in the middle class are more apt to stick to the rules. I think if Catherine, Princess if Wales snd what a wonderful job they did with their 3 children, and then down to their grandchildren. Their hime was full of warmth and love. Their children were taught to be their best selves. They also created an enormous company with huge profits, which enabled them to educate their children at the finest in the UK. I am in awe of them. Covid took their
children’s party pieces down and they have had to sell out. They created their own destiny, and gave their children self confidence, a love of the outdoors, and the importance of Family. We should all be so lucky to have a solid foundation like that growing up. I think that may have been part of William’s enchantment with Catherine.
Regarding the bit about their neighbor, the one who retrieved the blackmail letters for his brother George … remember, all the royal children had other names before they got a title. The “George” in this instance is their youngest brother - a playboy who I think was later killed in an air fight during WWIi.
Duke of Windsor’s younger brother who became King George VI was actually named Albert and called Bertie in the family.
Let’s not blacken that poor, decent man’s reputation with the blackmail letters of their youngest brother who was really named George.
(These family names do make for a real jumble though, don’t they? 😂 )
Yes, I was just about to make the same point but decided to check first whether someone else had noticed.
By the way, the name Bernard as in George Bernard Shaw, in Ireland and England is BERNəd, not BernAHD.
George did die in a plane crash, though not in battle. He was on a quasi-diplomatic trip to Iceland, but there are numerous questions surrounding that flight.
George died in plane crash in Scottish Highlands on a 'diplomatic' mission to Iceland.
You are such a luxury and treat to spend time with! We moved from Dallas last year to living off grid in the Ozarks. While I do love this lifestyle in my late 50’s, it is such a treat to listen to your reviews and reading the comments. It’s like a book club in the middle of nowhere. I’ve certainly been praying that you and your family are feeling comfortable and settled in and making new friends!
I was so confused for ages that King George VI name wasn't really George, and that had a younger brother who's name was really George (Duke of Clarence)!
Harry makes Norman Bates seem so well adjusted
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My Sunday treat!
I agree with that 100% she is to me a little angel that dropped into my phone
Ditto ❤
Wallis called Elizabeth “Cookie”? Can you imagine how Elizabeth felt meeting Megan? That same kind of disrespectful, cheap trollop? Like a recurring nightmare!
W called the Queen Mother, who was Queen Elizabeth then, 'Cookie" not the then Princess Elizabeth. But yes, exactly the same kind of trollop!
@@user-vj8it1qk5w oh thank you for the correction! It’s hard for me to picture timelines…
Cheere Denise is a GREAT STORY TELLER! I love her analysis, her explanations and attention to little interesting details and summations… can’t wait for more after this book!
……to read why W & E called her ‘Cookie’, may I suggest you read book, ‘The Queen Mother’, by Lady Colin Campbell. Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon was a narcissist. She was a truly nasty piece of work. She was manipulative, conniving & dangerous, same as someone else currently.
The book is a real eye-opener into her horrid character…………
@@debbiekerekes4209 As we say in NZ (regardless of gender) 'Cher, Bro' means 'no wucking furries' xo
This has become my Sunday treat so I brew a coffee and sit and enjoy. I have to say I googled the alleged illegitimate son, the actor Tim Sealey and he definitely looked like Windsor. The thought that his offspring and descendants where and are scattered over the world is shocking, I wonder how many of them know.
I do look forward to this on Sundays as well 🙂
I almost missed it. My days got mixed this week & I've been thinking today was Saturday, so I'm snuggled down in bed at 10:00pm to watch.💜
My darling..ugh. I'll never forget when MM called out to H saying " My love.." when they were taking a picture after seeing Hamilton...🤢
MM properly only called Harry ‘My love..’ because she couldn’t remember his name!
Please, my love, was her talking to the money, not h
So many similarities to H&M. No jobs, gave up royalty while still pretending to be a royal, big house, servants, security. Then there's Henry himself. No friends, spare to TW etc. Theu wven took pictures in HM doll house. It's almost like they're doing this on purpose.
Also the Mulroney name sounds the same 😂😂😂
@@atharvaveda87 I noticed that too. 👍
Creepy
Can you believe the perpetual boredom that leaves a person so wanting for excitement that literally Anything is acceptable?
Omg Harry has a mother complex... baby talk is a turn off. 😮
baby talk is a red flag in a relationship
"Dictator whisperer..." I died laughing!!
Listening to this all I think that Britain really got away with a terrible person who could have been a monarch. Thank goodness.
Wallis grew up as Maryland elite. Her mother and she was supported by a rich/business man uncle. She married a pilot who was alcoholic and divorced him so uncle cut her off. She hung out with her best friend then married Earnest who treated her great. He was half British and went to England.
That's in a nutshell. Earnest married the best friend.
I think you are so right about a life of wealth and leisure becoming boring. When every one of your darkest fantasies have been fulfilled, what is left for them to live for? Nothing in life is exciting. Many millionaires actually commit suicide.
Then you go to Epstein's island to mess with kids or fly Instagram models to be pooed on
Thanks for all the hard work you put in to make this book so enjoyable.
210% agreed
10:30pm on Sunday night over here in Australia! Time to listen! I remember reading the chapter about David's alleged worldwide network of illegitimate children and frankly being surprised that he could manage it if you know what I mean. The guy is such a sook. Does not give "sire of many" vibes lol
🤣 no he absolutely doesn’t! Shocked so many women were looking to cozy up to his skinny little self
Well, there are plenty of women who would cozy up to the Prince of Wales and wouldn't care that he was a skinny little simp.
I would if his descendants are still running around NZ haha
I agree. Although I can see him being bisexual, he gives off those vibes
@@thatsfunny2051it was apparently in Dunedin, I’m there today I’ll keep my eyes peeled 😂😂
Prince George, who apparently was being blackmailed, was NOT the later king George VI, who used to be prince Albert, but decided to take his father's name (and his own fourth name) to restore faith in the monarchy, as far as I have understood. Prince George was David's and king George VI's youngest brother.
Thank you!
@@cheeredenise Sorry, I meant to write "David's and George VI's (sixth) youngest brother"... which I now has corrected in my original comment.
“, , , I never should have thought about taking Austria . . . “. LOL!!! Your imitation of Hitler is just SO DARN CUTE!!!
Thelma,Lady Furness was an extremely famous American with a twin sister who became the mother of Gloria Vanderbilt, thus a great aunt of Anderson Cooper. There are books written about her exploits.
Sadly, this decadence is still the norm of the elite. It doesn’t change the fact that it is disgusting and should be revealed so it can be renounced and restoration can happen. Makes my skin crawl.
This is awesome! I'm really enjoying your book review and your fun sense of humor. 🍁
I swear there is a certain level of wealth which trips a switch in the brain and turns our taste dial to 'Dictator Chic'. Every now and again, as you read, it strikes me that we're talking about the 1930s and that the Depression was barely over, certainly not recovered from, and what a bizarre, out of touch, compassion-free life they lived.
Frieda Dudley Ward survived the Titanic
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Cheere, I could read the book but i would miss the brilliant insights you provide.i really look forward to your weekend readings. You are such a treat.Thank you .
Thank you so much!
The government and the church wanted him gone due to him being such a threat...so, they forced his hand and actually knew he would make the choice he did. The world was better for it.
Great episode!!!
The sister triangle reminds me of Charles dating Lady Sarah Spencer and meeting her underage sister, Lady Diana Spencer.
That comparison is a bit of a stretch 😅
But, when he began seeing Camila seriously after the divorce, he would phone her husband would answer and just hand over the phone like, ‘it’s him’. And she’d go into the other room to chat as long as Charles wanted to. That went on until the ‘tampon’ scandal when her husband had to divorce her from embarrassment. Charles could have whatever he wanted. And her husband had to go along. That’s how it works with royalty even now.
You've got it wrong- Diana was fan-girling after Charles. She set out to snare her older sister's leftovers. Aided & abetted by her grandmother (Lady Fermoy, friend & Lady-in-Waiting to t Queen Mother) & Charles' grandmother (the said Queen Mother). Diana was not an innocent wallflower; she wanted to be Queen one day. She grew up reading Barbara Cartland's Regency romances (like the books the Bridgertons Netflix series are based upon). Cartland was Diana's step-grandmother. They wanted an illustrious match for the Spencer girl; that's how it was in those circles in those days. So stop believing that Diana was NOT complicit in snaring her real life Prince!! She could've settled for a lesser rank, bit she aimed for the most eligible bachelor in the world & got him! The rest is history....
The best thing to ever happen to the RF was the abdication of David....and in turn George VI became king,
Gigolo to his brother George, not Bertie, King George VI
Thank you! I wondered even as I uttered that sentence if I might be messing that up
Prince George, Duke of Kent was the younger brother of David and Bertie. Died in a plane crash in 1942. Rumoured to have been bi-sexual.
I’ve rarely laughed more than I do when I am listening to you, Cheere! Thanks for all you do for your listeners. 🙏🙏🙏
You are so welcome!! I love doing it!
Lady Cs book on the Queen mother fills in the blanks a whole lot with Wallis and Edward.
I didn't know he was an infantilist, I wonder how far he took it? Did she give him a dummy (pacifier) to stop him crying, maybe put him in a nappy (diaper)? The mind boggles.😵💫
@british.scorpion I bet he even made her spank his little bottom - LOL!
The little girl's pearl necklace story sounds typical - I'll be Wallis would take a dim view of letting any jewellery escape. What was shocking to me was how un-kingly and un-noble it was. You'd expect a king (or king-to-be) to have a feeling of loftiness. This was petty - snatching goodies from a child. But he was a petty person. I think a lot of people didn't want to believe that; they were invested in the idea of kingship and wouldn't admit that David was just a bum who happened to be born in cushy circumstances.
My reaction to this chapter: Oh what a tangled webb we weave. Looking forward to the next chapter!!
David may not have expected that he would not get his own way by threatening abdication. Possibly thought he could "have his cake, and eat it".
Alexander Larman's book The Windsors at War, published this year, has even more details about this critical time period. Very well written! Highly recommend!
If this isn’t OG H&M, I don’t know what is. Very disturbing stuff. Wonder how many kids H has.
I've often wondered the same.
I just want to say prayers for Israel right now . 🙏😭 . I do enjoy your book reviews & recaps
Amen-I’m traveling and can’t keep up as much as I want. Thank you for bringing them up in prayer. (…and to think I’m freaking out because my face has decided to break out. Sheesh). 🙄
I am saying prayers. Very worried for all-out War., I don’t understand how Israel had no clue. A daughter spoke to news. Said they were there as a family to celebrate Yom Kippur. They are huddled in a hotel. Safest place for now.!if Hamas shoots an American plane taking people out, I assume Biden will retaliate. If he gets it at all. Last time he saw Netanyahu he did the sign if the cross.
@@DebbiSmithDCdon’t worry about your face,, it’s a matter of a few days and you will be fine, yes this is all Bidens fault he provided the Money for the attack on Israel!!!
Lord protect Israel.
Amen!
When I was a little girl, I collected miniatures and had a playhouse… but then I grew up and got real ones. I don’t think David ever actually grew up.
Plus, it does seem unmanly🤮
Makes me think of Andrew & his teddy bears.
I collect swarovski miniatures and I'm 53... I don't travel with them, though😉
I opened RUclips and got all excited. I look forward to your episodes every week🎉
Love your moral compass and logic, Cheere. Really enjoying this. 🌹
There really is an instant replay w H&M‼️ Sense of entitlement is astounding 😤 really enjoying ur videos especially appreciate ur values, which seem rare today 💜❤️💙
Yes!
Great story teller. Love listening to you read.
Just finishing off Revenge and can't wait to start on this one! Thank you for your insightful, humour filled take on these books - it is a delight to listen to you ❤
Thanks for listening to Revenge!!!
@@cheeredeniseOh that was amazing!!! (But for the music, which got stuck in my head.)
Kabosh my new favorite word🤣🤣🤣 not surprised the elite pass each other around its been happening for centuries. Henry VIII and the Boleyn sister's just an example of parents using their offspring to cement themselves with the crown. It's mind boggling how peasants have a higher moral compass since they are merely peasants after all. Love listening to you! Your sarcastic comments are plucked right out of my mouth 😘😘😘😘😘
Exactly what I want to know!
When Wallis saw where David was going, why didn’t she say “I’m not marrying you so just cool your jets and keep that throne.”
Cause he threatened to unalive himself.
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I’d risk it.
I'm loving your reading and interpretation of this book!! What a hot mess these 2 were. Look forward to each new chapter!! 😊 ☕️
I'm not sure what i enjoyed more in this episode - the constant stream of revelations proving the money doesn't buy class or the schadenfreude I derive from your reactions and commentary 😂. Oh wait, it's definitely the commentary! Thank you for putting so much fun energy in to these posts.
So he used Wallis to get out of being in the throne
Thoroughly enjoying your reading and review of this book and learning so much in the process. What a pair of deluded fools these two were and the parallels with the Gruesome Twosome are somewhat unnerving. Looking forward to the next chapter 👍😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
“Middle class condescension!” Sounds like Markle.
That was fascinating denise.your character shines through your commentary, and that shapes up as fine
Thank you Cheere Denise, you read so well and add so much to each chapter. I love it.
The parallels with the hakles is astonishing. I bet that she demands staff to treat her as a queen. Idiocy!
9:15 or thereabouts: The Duke's brother George was likely Prince George the Duke of Kent, not George VI whose names were Albert Frederick Arthur George and who picked George as his titular name to link back to George V. Prince George Duke of Kent has long been rumored/believed to have have been gay and once went into the officers' mess wearing a dress but not as a joke which it would have been passed off at the time, as homosexual activity between men was illegal at the time and cross dressing was just SCANDALOUS. So he would have got a royal pass. (It is said that lesbian activity was not made illegal either because Queen Victoria did not believe it happened or the courtier who got to explain that legislation to her did not want to describe the activity to her. Or maybe both. oh, and not saying George VI might not have had some hanky-panky (with M or with F) in his past but it would have been hushed or the other party would have remained silent. Lady C has said he favored women, in her biography of the Queen Mother. BTW Prince George died in 1942 in a plane crash, he was the pilot I believe.
Another great aspect of this community is the informative & thought-provoking comments!💜
Abdication was absurd for such a woman. I never knew so much stuff!!! So, abdication was not for love, it was self indulgence of a worthless man. Your commentary is brilliant!
Your book reviews are beyond entertaining. When you said "the dictator whisperer," I almost spit out my coffee. Though I've read this book, hearing your thoughts is much better. Thank you for a fun way to start Sunday.
If you're interested in the background of Wallis Simpson, I'd recommend the book That Woman.
I've read that one too! I second the recommendedation
I'm currently reading "Wallis on Love" but I'll check out the one you mentioned.
@@cliftafrizzell4687 Wallis In Love by Andrew Morton? That's in my to be read pile. I buy books faster than I can read them. Are you enjoying it?
@@thatsfunny2051 Do you have any other suggestions for books on the Windsors?
Gah! So many books & not enough lifetime lol
My list gets longer & longer. I'm going to have to figure out how to prioritize.
He doesn’t have a job just like Harry this is unbelievable. I’m so glad I tapped into this.
I’ve never known a man who was into “Miniatures”. Women, yes, we are always charmed by doll house furniture, Hallmark Christmas ornaments and even the little McDonald toys but Men - Not so much!
I think it depends upon how you define “miniature”, if you believe that a miniature means porcelain figurines of ladies in fancy dress, then yeah collecting miniatures is more common among women. But since miniature means something reproduced in a smaller scale than in real life, model railroads are miniatures and are far more collected by men than women. Hot Wheels and Matchbox cars are miniatures, Star Wars action figures are miniatures, and so are collections of tin soldiers, and all are generally more popular with men than women. So I disagree with you, men collect miniatures equally or nearly just as much as women because something being smaller than in real life does not describe a gender, it describes a size.
Sorry, I didn’t realize that Cheere had said essentially the same thing. I hadn’t gotten that far in three video when I wrote my comment above. I do stand by men collect miniatures too, but I wouldn’t have bothered to point it out to you had I know when the comment started.
Hello. It's nighttime and the end of a very busy day. I am exhausted and just laid down for the night. Listening to you is so calming and relaxing as well as funny..youn ewws and yucks made me laugh. Very enjoyable and entertaining the way you narrate and break down the lifestyle of this couple. The parallels with Hand M are astounding, ecen down to the way they used the press Thank you for sharing.
Those people back then sure did live interesting lives.
SO agree about the politics of him getting married instead of sleeping with a divorced woman!
I don't think he wanted to be King. That's why he insisted on marrying her. I don't think everyone knew back then. I do understand why the church,politicians and the royal family rejected the union during that Era.
Anne Sebba's book That Woman gives an interesting view of Wallis.
I think there was so little social mobility back then, that 'what everyone knew' was probably all too true - many families would have had a son or daughter who was in service up at the big house and knew what went on.
Just popped up on my tablet, I'm going to watch you on my tv, ❤️❤️
This is my Sunday chill with a coffee before manic week ahead! A wonderful weekly treat ! 🇮🇪🇺🇸
I always wondered if David and/or Wallis knew they would be in exile. They can’t go back to England! I wondered about children for the too. I’m not surprised that he was bisexual . Wallis grew up in Baltimore. She was with the 2 older women. Aunt Bess and other. I think she simply determined she wanted more. Not as crass as Meghan Markle but a similar situation. I have not read her biography for years. Probably should read it again. There certainly are a lot of bi-sexual or Gay. Oscar Wilde was pretty racy and coarse, but in the salon set in London. My life feels so
Boringly upper middle class. Unsure how they determine economic class.
Lady Frieda was expecting her daughter to have a pearl necklace with with around 20 pearls from David (though easily fewer, depending how old she was when the custom started) after he'd given her one per year on her birthday till she grew up? LOl.. I hope they were very LARGE pearls.
As entertaining and easy to listen to as you are, you must be a GREAT school teacher. A long, long time ago when I was in school, if a teacher was entertaining my attention was captured. Alas, there weren't many like that in my schools, it was also pre-ritalin et. al.. Most often my thoughts flew out the window after the first five minutes, no matter how hard I tried to restrain them from doing that.
Thank you...I would have NEVER picked this book up on my own.
It's like an excellent bookgroup!
What is it with Royalty, they have everything money can provide yet they toy around with the extremes of human reproduction behaviour. To extremes! Maybe everyday poverty is not so bad after all.
Sexual immorality is most definitely not just the province of the affluent. They just have the means to facilitate their desires on a grander scale.
@@iwillstom money and power doesn't change you, it just shows your real nature.
Your right it is always morally wrong to have an affair. It’s heartbreaking to me. Possibly they justified it because often they didn’t marry for love. Maybe that’s why it happened so frequently.
Yes and it didn’t bother the present King and Queen that their relationship started as an affair.
it actually started before either of them were married. But Charles didn't want to commit and Camilla went off to marry another man @@7jarrow
No the brother being blackmailed was the youngest brother George, King George didn't take that name until he became King. Kind of confusing. As for Thelma Furness, she was the Maternal Aunt of Gloria Vanderbilt, Great Aunt of Anderson Cooper. There are so many stories about David's sexual conquests, when he was Prince of Wales, instead of greeting the hostess who was throwing a party for him, he instead was too busy carrying out the seduction of a local official's wife. When he received word that his father was sick and possibly dying, David shrugged and went on to spend the night and most of the day in bed, again, with someone else's wife. I've never heard the bisexual angle but considering that he and his youngest brother George (Not King George VI) ran with a crowd who slept with whatever and whoever struck their fancy, and who all indulged in rampant drug use, I guess it's possible. Prince George, actually went through detox with David there with him taking care of him. King George V, actually commended David for his loyalty to his family. David is a very confusing figure, because you're never 100% certain what his motives were for doing the things he did, both good and bad.
I too, would like to hear more about Wallis Simpson. She was clearly the brains of the outfit. David really seems to have been not just morally defective, but intellectually disadvantaged as well.
Reminds you of H&M. They needed all that house for 2 adults & 2 children only to have their dreams dashed & now having to downsize
Here's the thing though. Wallis was still married when she started the affair with David. David concocted the plan to marry Wallis when she was still married. To be honest, I can see why the powers that be were like, no, we will not countenance you marrying a divorced a woman when you are the one who engineered her divorce to suit yourself. Shades of another King David and Uriah the Hittite.
Wallis's husband's reaction was not dissimilar to Queen Camilla' reactions come to think of it. It's like they both just stepped aside
I don't think it was about him doing the right thing by wanting to marry her. He was the head of the church of England & she was a divorcee. The church of England would never recognize the marriage b/c of her divorces. So he would then be bringing his mistress out into the public a his queen. The church could not allow it!
I haven't had time to read this book yet, but does it talk about how parliament walked out on him? Had he not abdicated, he would have thrown England into chaos as a king without a government?
I didn't know that abt parliment - thank you for this info
Denise impersonating Hitler was not on my bingo card this year😂😂 but it is definitely welcome
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I think we're learning that David had a freak flag, and he flew it high and proud! Thanks for another great chapter!
Except for George V and George VI, they all had mistresses AND were head of the Church of England. Such were the times.
Great video, thank you very much.
“Whew, whew… ewwww”… my thoughts exactly on ‘baby talking’!!! 🤮 yuck.
♥️ this review; sending support your way.
I didnt think I could learn something new about the Windsors... but the children???? I had no idea he was spreading his seed hither and thither - Wow! Thanks for another brilliant episode xx
Honestly, his children are probably better off without him, other than money.
It’s true that there was a tradition of Royal men/the Gentry having affairs, generally these lasted for a while. That doesn’t excuse it.
David’s bisexuality was an open secret.
I admire that Wallis also had affairs, although the people she chose to have them with were questionable.
It was grubby all the way around.
Though there was no place for David & Wallis, or point to their lives. Maybe we should expect them to have found trouble and intrigue, as a substitute for excitement, wherever they could.
Their stipend from the Royal Family was £20000 a year. At the time it was a huge income.
I am shocked that I didn’t know this. He is scum. If he won’t be there for them, you bet he needs to come up with $$. How many many kids? I am disappointed. Did Wallis know about these kids? All I’m aristocracy, or staff, prostitutes?!
@@susanmoorhead8762mostly aristocracy, some were workers. The aristocrats didn’t necessarily need his money. The workers did, they didn’t get it.
Princess Grace Kelly married in Monaco. Not long into the marriage he began to chest. Do these people have no expectations of moral behavior? After some time, Grace got her apt in Paris and had her own lovers. She had had lived in Hollywood, as young as she was.only saying this because it seems the rich are different than you and I. Their mores are just not the same.
@@susanmoorhead8762 didn't know that abt grace kelly and hubbie
@@susanmoorhead8762 whilst not in ideal circumstances, I am glad that Grace Kelly was able to live in Paris. I hope she found her happiness.
Your commentary makes me think deeper on these subjects. I love that. I don’t know if it would be worth your time but another interesting set of books that involve some of these people. Consuelo Vanderbilt , the American heiress married the 9 th Duke of Marlborough. By marriage she was cousins with Winston Churchill: throughout her life she was among the rich royalty set and knew almost everyone that were prominent of that era. The duke, later married Gladys Deacon. Another fascinating person , who knew almost every prominent person of that era. Hugo Vickers’ book, “ Sphinx” and Consuelo Vanderbilt Balsan wrote The Glitter and the Gold. James Brough: portrait of an American Heiress which picks up where Consuelo’s book left off and cover the rest of her life. I’d love to hear your commentary on those , but I realize not everyone is fascinated by them lol .
As far as 'Who's bringing in the money?', I hazard a guess that he probably had a huge stipend from his brother plus a large payoff when he abdicated. Possibly inherited money too.
I doubt if there is such a thing as a gilded stone bathtub in Bucks House. Sounds like Versace to me 😂
Something that has always struck me when the comparison is made between the Windsors and the Sussex's is Frogmore Cottage. One couple is buried there and it's the other couples official residence in the UK as stated on the RF website (still current as of November 2023)
Tim Seely, the rumoured illegitimate son of David, died in May 2024. Pictures of him early on in his career as an actor show a remarkable resemblance to David.