Boycotting Woke Harley Davidson Will Backfire On YOU

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • There is a lot of talk about boycotting Harley Davidson in the media recently. The woke policies of Harley Davidson corporate are being exposed and people think that not buying a product will make a difference. I think that this strategy will work against you. I think it's time for people to stand up and fight. Let's discuss this important issue and discover what's behind it all.
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  • @OldNotDead-Club
    @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +9

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    • @kennyh5083
      @kennyh5083 23 дня назад +2

      You don't know what your talking about!

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  22 дня назад

      @@kennyh5083 sure, explain it to me then based on what i said in the video

    • @johnnypoprock1
      @johnnypoprock1 15 дней назад

      ​@@kennyh5083 At least be respectful.

  • @robertbean129
    @robertbean129 Месяц назад +312

    Not boycotting them is. Encouraging the nonsense. These companies need to stay out of politics.

    • @stensballe3683
      @stensballe3683 Месяц назад +3

      What are politics even my friend?
      Have u ever heard of the Jacobins during the french revolution?
      Have u ever stopped to think anout who and why “politics” even came about?
      I can help u, its rich and royal families who made it up. 💀

    • @Christian675rx
      @Christian675rx Месяц назад +3

      Missing the point dude

    • @WarAuthority
      @WarAuthority Месяц назад +17

      The whole point is to have consequences for bad actions. Bud light was once the #1 beer, and now they've been humbled by their stupidity. That can occur with any company if they push this non-sense. This hurts everyone, Being known as the ceo of a crippled brand hurts them in every way possible. Who wants the risk of anyone in management who's caused such damage.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +7

      @@WarAuthority OMG you didnt even watch or listen to make that comment

    • @WarAuthority
      @WarAuthority Месяц назад +19

      @@OldNotDead-Club Breezed through your talking points but it's mostly nonsensical bs about how people don't care enough to force change, blah blah blah. People vote with their money. Doesn't matter who or what is driving these companies they can only go so far before it slaps them in the face. You can only f around long enough before karma kicks them in the teeth. Be it another world war, or a civil war, or just a cultural flip. You're saying people didn't care so all this just reached to this level. People have been very vocal about these issues for years, you can only do so much when other people are brainwashed to vote one way. 2016 in the US taught us a lot about media, and how it functions in politics. Fake news was put on notice, regular people who took neither side were now on a side. With everything going on people are sick and tired of everything going on. You're going to see change one way or another. -but to say nothing can happen to any of these companies, or people who run them is just naive.

  • @rjoetting7594
    @rjoetting7594 Месяц назад +73

    Boycotting John Deer and Farm Supply here in the USA did work, and when they changed their policies, their sales came back.
    All Harley-Davidson has to do is the same as the previous company's did, and their support will return.
    If you don't take a stand, then other companies will continue to force their ideologies on people who don't think as they do.
    Here in the USA, our Constitutional Republic dictates the rights of the individual, not the collective.
    That's why we are not a democracy and we are a Constitutional Republic.

    • @harmgregory4560
      @harmgregory4560 23 дня назад

      or not.

    • @jmackinjersey1
      @jmackinjersey1 14 дней назад

      @@harmgregory4560 Or not, what?

    • @davidbunch1080
      @davidbunch1080 12 дней назад

      The whole planet , USA included, is an oligarchy. @ 8:50, the facts start.

  • @greaternysailing8088
    @greaternysailing8088 26 дней назад +33

    We’d still be British subjects if this guys advised George Washington. Boycott will effect change. Your power is in your spending and voting.

  • @chopdog
    @chopdog Месяц назад +215

    How can it backfire on me if I no longer care if the company survives? They have sucked the loyalty out of me. Harley employees can find other jobs, just like I've had to do a few times in the past.

    • @Litehousenation
      @Litehousenation 27 дней назад +2

      I've been laid off twice myself.. 🇺🇸

  • @MonsieurToffeln
    @MonsieurToffeln Месяц назад +57

    I don't see the Japanese giving a shit about wokeness

    • @MiltonBaron-l1i
      @MiltonBaron-l1i 25 дней назад +3

      They care about sales leave the people to decide these matters. Good for them!

    • @lassassin2239
      @lassassin2239 23 дня назад

      That's bcuz the klr650 a stupid readable they don't care about harley lol

    • @ArneAsada69
      @ArneAsada69 17 дней назад

      Japan is a homogeneous society. U.S. is a melting pot of different nationalities, cultures, and religions.

    • @jmackinjersey1
      @jmackinjersey1 14 дней назад +1

      Uhm, you might want to look into that a little bit more. You'll be surprised at how they are doing it, but at a more subdued manner.

    • @Tig3rj
      @Tig3rj 12 дней назад

      Because in Japan 98% are all the same ethnic and think alike! In US, how many different ethnics, cultures, religions are there here??? Many!
      Watch the video "Why Can't Japan Accept Mixed-Race?" from Oriental Pearl where the one girl is Mix Japanese and yet the Japanese culture thinks she is a foreigner yet she was born and raised in Japan.

  • @charlesscholton5252
    @charlesscholton5252 Месяц назад +210

    I do not boycott, I just completely walk away.

  • @roamingwolf6985
    @roamingwolf6985 Месяц назад +111

    One man was cast into a fire by the tyrant king, the spectacle was met with horror by a small bird. It spread its wings and soared to a nearby river, where it filled its beak with water. The bird carried these meagre drops to where the fire was lit before going back for more. The water it fetched was of course, not enough to quell the raging flames. An arrogant crow mocked the bird's scurrying efforts and haughtily told him:
    ‘How can you hope to douse the fire with such little water. Surely you realize that there is nothing you can do?’
    The bird remained unperturbed and calmly replied:
    ‘When I meet with God, He will not ask me whether I was able to put out the fire, He will only inquire whether I did my part to see that it was extinguished.’
    Starbucks, Mc Donalds are loosing their sales. There are reasons. Are those, who are boycotting suffering? No. They switched to local, small brands with much better quality food. Can you fight these Vanguards and Black Rocks? Surely. You just need to want.

  • @klz4377
    @klz4377 Месяц назад +82

    The larger problem: Weak men make hard times. This is how we got to this point.

    • @dang2473
      @dang2473 Месяц назад +2

      Hopefully what follows is that hard times will once again make strong men!

    • @xdtac9
      @xdtac9 28 дней назад +1

      @@dang2473 Yes the survivors will be.........

    • @carlmizell5930
      @carlmizell5930 12 дней назад

      @@klz4377 a country will have this kind of society when the country has a long period of time without military conflicts. A ( cleaning).

    • @Hellbentbiker
      @Hellbentbiker 10 дней назад

      ⁠@@carlmizell5930I guess you didn’t serve because it hasn’t been that long.
      It doesn’t clean anything anyway because the weak and soft men never go fight.

    • @carlmizell5930
      @carlmizell5930 9 дней назад +1

      @@Hellbentbiker the longer our country goes without military conflicts or a war like (Vietnam) the less appreciative the young people of our country appreciate the freedoms our volunteer military gives our citizens.

  • @ZaraLou-b3w
    @ZaraLou-b3w Месяц назад +34

    If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything...
    I own 2 pre-woke Harleys, they will be the last Harleys I own. And as for buying $50 (USD) T-shirts, that will be one boycott I can easily get behind....

    • @rickherman4539
      @rickherman4539 28 дней назад +4

      I have 3 pre woke Harleys

    • @davidhill588
      @davidhill588 12 дней назад

      pre woke harleys are like a gay guy before he comes out.. same difference..

    • @rickherman4539
      @rickherman4539 12 дней назад

      @@davidhill588 pretty brave

    • @davidhill588
      @davidhill588 12 дней назад

      @rickherman4539 going to trade my pre-woke harley in in about an hour. got a shit ton of clothes and other merchandise if you know anyone interested

    • @davidhill588
      @davidhill588 12 дней назад

      @@rickherman4539 yeah it's like finding out the woman you have been married to for 10 years was born with a penis.

  • @daveruff47
    @daveruff47 Месяц назад +106

    Sorry dude. Boycott them.

  • @Boondockinit
    @Boondockinit Месяц назад +24

    I'm finished with Harley Davidson. We're selling both of our bikes. Bye bye Harley. You're WEAK.

  • @joemills950
    @joemills950 Месяц назад +34

    Remember when we were proud that Harley's were American iron and American made.

    • @carlmizell5930
      @carlmizell5930 15 дней назад

      @@joemills950 instead of being loyal in their customers and their heritage they support the customers that su*k each other. What a nasty shame. Anti-christian and politically correct.

    • @davidhill588
      @davidhill588 12 дней назад +1

      yeah, now it feels like you are wearing a rainbow cape with high heels on when you ride one.. haven't ridin mine in the daylight in a month.

  • @RedDogTexas
    @RedDogTexas Месяц назад +133

    You are wrong. The only way to express our disagreement with Harley's WOKE policies is to stay away from the dealerships and spending our money supporting the independent shops and suppliers instead of buying from H-D. You are sounding like a company man to me.

    • @LiveWire_Guy
      @LiveWire_Guy Месяц назад

      I agree that he's both wrong and he's sounding like a HD shill. We are in a war. HD and he--with his defense of HD--are cowards who don't that the stomach for the righteous fight. They are the French in WWII surrendering to the Nazis. They are the "cheese eating surrender monkeys" we deride. I am going to call "the motor company" Vichy Davidson. If they don't have the balls to fight, their "tough guy" images is just posing and they deserve the rightful scorn the French got for aiding and abetting the Nazis.

    • @dismaljester
      @dismaljester Месяц назад

      Talk to dealerships. The ones I've heard from tend to have the same problems and frustrations with the moco that you do... The dealerships are your neighbors. The moco does not care about you as a customer, most dealerships do.

    • @leonardobacchi1464
      @leonardobacchi1464 24 дня назад

      My opinion is that Indian will become THE iconic USA bike in the future. Harley has made a mistake with this woke orientation and Polaris will take advantage on it. Moreover: Indian can satisfy both issues: the masculine aspect of the bikers, because Indians were great warriors, and, at the same time, show respect for native americans, now a minority, which fits very well into the woke narrative.

    • @september1683
      @september1683 22 дня назад

      Spitting in the face of the buyer and non-brainwashed customer is not good for most companies. Isn't it enough that universities have now degenerated into cadre schools for socialism? Why does a company like Harley Davidson have to bow to this trend? The woke movement has already caused enough damage in the western world. Anyone who goes along with it is also guilty. Boycott them to the limit!

  • @morningstarx5340
    @morningstarx5340 Месяц назад +18

    Buy a used twin cam from your buddy down the road. Let the new bikes rot on the showroom floor.

  • @Gunga-ct9nz
    @Gunga-ct9nz Месяц назад +18

    If you do not like the company do not give them your money.

  • @rollandklontz
    @rollandklontz Месяц назад +21

    No corporation is being forced to go "woke" or to implement dei policies.
    Corporations only understand the bottom dollar.
    Boycotting them is the only option.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +2

      Lol

    • @willemdiepeveen2580
      @willemdiepeveen2580 29 дней назад +1

      @@OldNotDead-Club someone hasn’t got all the lights on ……….

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  29 дней назад +1

      @@willemdiepeveen2580 FAAAARK you are either stupid or you just commenting without watching the video

    • @willemdiepeveen2580
      @willemdiepeveen2580 29 дней назад

      @@OldNotDead-Club excuse me ? I was talking about @rollandklontz but okay, I'll take it ...../?

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  28 дней назад

      @@willemdiepeveen2580 lol sorry - you tagged me on the reply so i thought it was for me?

  • @Ittoqqortoormiit
    @Ittoqqortoormiit Месяц назад +45

    Harley Davidson cannot survive too much Longer due to the Cost of their bikes and bike designs that riders do not want .

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +3

      As I said in the video, check the share price

    • @frankfurther3828
      @frankfurther3828 Месяц назад +2

      They make overpriced, over-teched, undertested, partially offshore, Gold Wing wannabe bikes that idle like Honda CB-350s.

    • @johnludmon510
      @johnludmon510 Месяц назад +6

      @@OldNotDead-ClubThe share price has been kept up by the company buying back the shares things are not all rosy with the company that way.

    • @johnludmon510
      @johnludmon510 Месяц назад +2

      The first thing I looked at was the person making accusations and what’s in it for them and do they really care about the damage they will do to the company or is it just a look what I’ve done self promotion campaign and I think it is one of them . I have sat through at work interminable hours of company core values, inclusion/anti discrimination and environmental impact presentations most of which can be summed up by the Biffa lorry driver putting all our carefully separated paper ,plastic,cans etc. Rubbish straight into the compactor in no particular order ,but we were seen to do something. This whole thing to me has more to do with where American politics is at this moment which appears to be very polarised and like the UK there are “influencers”who don’t need to rely on facts or the truth to make accusations .

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад

      @@johnludmon510 Buy backs happen when companies have spare cash and theres nothing else thats better to buy. The buy back just decreases the number of small investors, the major players end up with a bigger % slice of the pie and eventually make more money from that.

  • @damo2664
    @damo2664 Месяц назад +162

    I totally disagree I think your opinion is really weak. The only power we have against this agenda is our wallets. I will never buy another Harley. What you’re saying is just like saying I’ll keep selling Hitler gas because I don’t want the delivery guys to run out of work. We need to stand up for what is right.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +8

      Lol you obviously either didn't watch the video or don't understand the concept?

    • @damo2664
      @damo2664 Месяц назад

      @@OldNotDead-Club I did watch it. And I couldn’t disagree more. These people are taking away every freedom we have. It is the businesses fault if people lose their jobs. We should never fund terror which is what this is at the end of the day. I haven’t eaten McDonalds since they pushed woke books on our children a year ago. I don’t eat food that is halal blessed. I won’t be watching the olympics and I will never buy another Harley. I am a Christian I know exactly what is going on with the great reset and the new world order but I will only support business’s that support my views. Giving evil money so small businesses don’t run out of work does not make sense. I agree with some of your points but supporting evil companies does not make sense.

    • @fatdaddy-viii-8672
      @fatdaddy-viii-8672 29 дней назад

      I hope you're right.

    • @loydchambers6129
      @loydchambers6129 29 дней назад

      Well pus​hing woke is agreeing to allow children. Sick sick sick . You can say the wrong people will be hurt but right now the company is sick to agree to push woke, buy the way I stopped watching football to with the past disrespect to the American flag.

    • @loydchambers6129
      @loydchambers6129 29 дней назад +4

      Lol they took out what said about children so I guess RUclips agrees it's wrong

  • @westcoast3595
    @westcoast3595 Месяц назад +87

    Screw Harley. Build a motorcycle. Buy an independent build. Buy an Indian.

    • @sunnydaze-z4b
      @sunnydaze-z4b Месяц назад +3

      and byu yuengling

    • @jayteesgear
      @jayteesgear Месяц назад +3

      Good point but Indian is as woke as Harley

    • @TjCaron978
      @TjCaron978 Месяц назад +4

      ⁠@@jayteesgearif they’re woke they should change their name… remember “Indian” is “offensive”.

    • @MrJruta
      @MrJruta 26 дней назад +1

      @@jayteesgearyep. That’s the point everyone is missing

    • @Notimetoplaywu
      @Notimetoplaywu 25 дней назад

      Indian has always been the superior American anti woke motorcycle 🇺🇸

  • @NeverDoubtMe23
    @NeverDoubtMe23 27 дней назад +9

    People whose whole identity is being a Harley rider are hard coping right now by making excuses on why not to boycott....
    It is like listening to an addict say he has his drinking problem under control...sad.

    • @brucem8129
      @brucem8129 25 дней назад +1

      I'm a owner, no excuses, but I won't buy another.

  • @paulmoss7940
    @paulmoss7940 Месяц назад +74

    Disagree. HD fans should buy used or aftermarket. Do not support a bad company by buying their new products. Actually , they have been circling the drain for a while. To hell with HD.

    • @aammdj
      @aammdj Месяц назад +4

      LOL~!

    • @denniscross2515
      @denniscross2515 4 дня назад

      HD makes money by charging aftermarket companies for use of the Harley name and logo.

    • @paulmoss7940
      @paulmoss7940 4 дня назад

      @@denniscross2515 No one wants that now. Folks are de-badging their bikes.

  • @xmastoast8003
    @xmastoast8003 Месяц назад +21

    Go woke go broke, look at Bud light, Harley needs to understand that pandering to the idiots of the world will mean loss of sales

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +1

      Lol yep check the bud light share price

    • @xmastoast8003
      @xmastoast8003 Месяц назад +2

      @@OldNotDead-Club now or during? 🤣🤣

    • @bmwlane8834
      @bmwlane8834 Месяц назад

      The is doing fine! Just a few blowhards crying about bud making one can of beer for a gay! Lol

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад

      @@xmastoast8003 lol thats the point, we are fighting the wrong enemy

    • @michaelcrowder9575
      @michaelcrowder9575 18 дней назад

      lol! Haters are gonna hate!

  • @Flamadiddle2
    @Flamadiddle2 Месяц назад +21

    Buell and the Japanese bikes are not woke. Who would have thunk that Japanese bikes would one day be considered more American than Harley? Crazy times!

    • @tonyb.3902
      @tonyb.3902 25 дней назад +3

      Yeah, the Vulcan cruiser is actually made in America

    • @davidhill588
      @davidhill588 12 дней назад +1

      same with cars

    • @Hellbentbiker
      @Hellbentbiker 10 дней назад

      This is not true. Where did you get this information from?
      If you do a little research you will find that Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, Triumph, Ducati, BMW and Indian (yes still) are all doing the same things.
      It’s literally everywhere from major automotive manufacturers, retail stores, grocery stores, clothing brands, food brands, banks, sports teams, movies, music and anything else you can think of.

  • @Johnclark300
    @Johnclark300 Месяц назад +14

    Harley Davidson is owned by Blackrock, do your research into who Blackrock is.

  • @thorick590
    @thorick590 Месяц назад +7

    Did the Boycott against Budweiser have any effect ? Yes, it did, the company got the message...

  • @darrellteague8629
    @darrellteague8629 Месяц назад +16

    I own a pre woke Harley. Im not going to buy anything else from them.

  • @132byrdman
    @132byrdman Месяц назад +39

    So this video actually confirms we need to boycott Harley Davidison. Thanks man

  • @NicePantsLance
    @NicePantsLance Месяц назад +20

    Harley's worst quality is their customer base blindly accepting whatever the company does. Hence why they've been playing catch-up with technology, performance, and prices are as high as ever

    • @fatdaddy-viii-8672
      @fatdaddy-viii-8672 29 дней назад

      @@NicePantsLance AMEN!

    • @tonyb.3902
      @tonyb.3902 25 дней назад +3

      What you’re missing is no one was buying blindly into Harley. They were buying into a culture and now that culture is gone which means Harley will be gone.

    • @fatdaddy-viii-8672
      @fatdaddy-viii-8672 25 дней назад +1

      @@tonyb.3902 we can only hope!

  • @charlesscholton5252
    @charlesscholton5252 Месяц назад +21

    Let the shareholders and investment companies feel it. Walk away from being a customer.

  • @bigronwaggles404
    @bigronwaggles404 Месяц назад +54

    People are now laughing at you if you ride a HD bike, it's like painting your bike pink and putting feathers on it.

    • @aammdj
      @aammdj Месяц назад +3

      LOL!

    • @dismaljester
      @dismaljester Месяц назад

      Found one of the folks who rides a bike only because he thinks it makes him look cool.

    • @dbarrett666
      @dbarrett666 25 дней назад

      I don't ride for you or anyone else, so what it looks like to you is irrelevant, as you are, irrelevant

    • @KHuggins-vy1im
      @KHuggins-vy1im 25 дней назад

      That laughing shit might just be unhealthy. At my age a life sentence ain’t worth working up a sweat over…

    • @metcruza5536
      @metcruza5536 9 дней назад

      So you don't drink Coke, go to Starbucks or Costco who support DEI and LGBTQ ???
      Don't think so .

  • @marcmcdaniel7559
    @marcmcdaniel7559 Месяц назад +6

    American Corporations are firing employees bc they have independent, personal views on woke issues if they offend anyone in the organization. I was a victim of this policy…best thing that ever happened to me. I was going to have a heart attack dealing with these Human Resources morons. Retired…and living again.

  • @Charger1908
    @Charger1908 Месяц назад +71

    Well it worked for Budweiser. As far as share holders I couldn’t give a rip. Harley is slowly moving all of their building and motor clothes out of the USA anyways. So there really aren’t any people left in the US to hurt. I’m not saying I’m going to burn my bike I’m just saying I’m not going to buy a new one or buy any parts from the company. I’ll keep my bike and I can just about build a new one with aftermarket parts. Sturgis is the largest rally in our country and Harley’s booth is empty this week. It’s already been boycotted. Tractor supply is a large company here and they went woke and after being boycotted they saw the error of their ways and got rid of DEi and all of the other crap that goes along with wokeness. So when Harley see’s their company taking a dive they will change or go bankrupt. We are not going to be nice about this shit anymore.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +6

      Check the Budweiser parent company share price before you settle on your answer

    • @CB500Xoo7
      @CB500Xoo7 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@OldNotDead-Clubit comes down to principle. If I am going to feel like I am betraying myself by drinking a bud light or whatever then I won’t do it. Look at it this way. Younger riders or middle aged like myself looking to get another bike have many options. I’m quite shocked at your defeatist “everyone’s doing it” thought process. Our power is in spending our money and hopefully in voting and we will not go down without a fight standing up against all this crap. I do agree on other points about the media and politicians. If we the people would unite and stop bickering we could work together to stop us getting screwed over at the local, state and federal level. Miami Dade county fiscal budget for 2024 is 11.7 billion and every year they tax more and waste more.

    • @WarAuthority
      @WarAuthority Месяц назад +12

      @@OldNotDead-Club The #1 beer is no longer the #1 beer. Yet for whatever reason you think the share price of a parent company matters. That's a ruined brand, that could take generations to rebuild itself. They could easily lose the rest of their shared assets if they decided to double down.

    • @karnijj1
      @karnijj1 Месяц назад +2

      @@WarAuthority OldNotDead is exactly right. They didn't care about Budweiser, cause tons of people continued to buy beer from other brands still underneath their corporate ownership, so ultimately, they still profited. Like he said, check the parent company share price before you make your assertions.

    • @sunnydaze-z4b
      @sunnydaze-z4b Месяц назад

      i wonder if the quality will go up once they move. Maybe they can manufacture them better so that they actually run smooth and quiet without leaking oil everywhere.

  • @harleyhawk7959
    @harleyhawk7959 Месяц назад +5

    harley didn't care about their loyal fan base as soon as they became a profitable company. It was all about the profits.

  • @1satisfiedmind
    @1satisfiedmind Месяц назад +11

    Nah, it won't backfire. Boycotts work, and no energy is required to not spend your money. HD has been able to turn a deaf ear to HD riders for to long. Calling corporate, tweeting, even picketing, are all things they can weather. Empty showrooms is something they can not. People aren't going to get rid of their HD, they will not buy new ones, apparel, gear. You are right about the investors/shareholders, though. But imagine if sales drop 25-50%, imagine stock prices plummeting, imagine people ignoring HD tents at Sturgis, Daytona, Myrtle Beach, and events wherever they're held. Make them sweat. Vote w your money, and vote in politics, break the mindset that you NEED a new HD to be happy. Dont be led, lead. Great video.
    PS Imaging if HD was actually run by people to love the bikes, not the revenue from them, imagine if they understood the culture rather than try to change it. Its easy if you try.

  • @billyoung8797
    @billyoung8797 Месяц назад +8

    So, all the comments disagree with you. Must be different down under. Boycotting will make a difference look at tractor supply and john deere.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +2

      Thats why they are winning and we are losing

  • @thomaslemay8817
    @thomaslemay8817 27 дней назад +4

    Not boycotting HD is a bigger problem. When HD is gone, it will have no impact on me at all . However, having DEI people making production decisions will put my life at risk every day. So, no DEI . It is the responsibility of the shareholders to get the trash out of the board room. Shipping jobs to Thailand is a big problem.

  • @redbull5181
    @redbull5181 Месяц назад +5

    Old Not Dead, said in this video " It's easier to give up Bud Light than Harley Davidson.". Apparently he has never met an alcoholic.

  • @BigTimberLodge
    @BigTimberLodge 28 дней назад +10

    You are trying to gaslight us, but i wouldn't figure anything else from a man who is from a country with a 2-teir policing system. Americans walked away from the UK, and it cost us then, and we are willing to walk away from Harley. Your argument is the same argument Bud-Light used about hurting the little man by boycotting the brand, but it worked. Also, let's be honest, Sturgis just ended, and this is Harley's best time of year for sales. I own 2 Harleys and am willing to sell them both and move over to Indian who was willing to drop the DEI and focus on making "American" made bikes.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  28 дней назад +2

      Very naive response, just because a company erases it from a website doesnt make it true. You are being played again!

    • @CherylLesley-q9i
      @CherylLesley-q9i 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@OldNotDead-ClubPeople aren't big critical thinkers now days and most of them have the attention span of a toddler

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  13 дней назад

      @@CherylLesley-q9i spot on!

  • @mrman487
    @mrman487 Месяц назад +11

    I disagree completely with you. You can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. You're looking at an insurmountable mountain and thinking it's too big to topple. Thats quitter talk. I will keep my bike, but instead of extending my warranty and getting upgrades, I'll spend it elsewhere. I'm 54 and couldn't give a crap about Harley anymore.

  • @TXLorenzo
    @TXLorenzo 29 дней назад +6

    This guy doesn't understand how loyalty works.

  • @jamesshepard4743
    @jamesshepard4743 Месяц назад +12

    Two of the largest individual shareholders of Harley Davidson stock are Vanguard ,(about 14 million shares ) and black rock , ( about 12 million shares ) two of the largest financial power houses behind the woke movement.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +1

      that's correct

    • @wave6413
      @wave6413 25 дней назад +2

      And Indian are built by Polaris. Who do you think the major shareholders are…..? So you swap from HD to Indian - the big end of town still get their dividends and bonuses. As George Carlin said “it’s a big club and you ain’t in it “

    • @jamesshepard4743
      @jamesshepard4743 24 дня назад +1

      @@wave6413 if I were to get a modern American, cruiser, I would more than likely opt for the Buell super cruiser over an Indian

    • @wave6413
      @wave6413 23 дня назад +1

      @@jamesshepard4743 - I saw the prototype of that bike. It’s amazing.

  • @kenstephens7366
    @kenstephens7366 Месяц назад +7

    Well I DID sell my Harley , 6 months ago . I’m sorry if workers are affected . But Harley’s direction is WOKE now . Sad . And yes I bought an Indian , I think everyone wanting to buy a Harley NOT do it . And there are plenty of great options. So I don’t agree with this guy . We all should take a stand .

  • @SB-mw1bg
    @SB-mw1bg Месяц назад +11

    Just buy used, Harleys are all over the place. Marketplace, for example.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +1

      Buying used is great irrespective of what HD is doing. If everyone buys used there won't be HD later on

  • @JamesRomano-c1e
    @JamesRomano-c1e Месяц назад +11

    yeah, your wrong....obviously you do not trade stocks. the boycott will crush the company and you are right, blackstone, vangaurd etc will move on....and so will shareholders of compsnies they manipulate....that's the great thing about capitalism...we have a choice.

  • @jameskellam2980
    @jameskellam2980 Месяц назад +7

    This guy must work for the CEO of HD.

  • @colewalters5336
    @colewalters5336 27 дней назад +7

    Oh so we're supposed to continue to support them? Yeah right

  • @lorimccaulley2117
    @lorimccaulley2117 Месяц назад +5

    We are standing up to the woke establishment any way we can. Little by little day by Day. We have to start showing Courage. Courage by speaking out is the only way change is going to happen. WE can lay down now.

  • @skibumm47
    @skibumm47 Месяц назад +5

    Bud light went woke, lost major market share, then came crawling back with Pro American messaging, which began recouping losses. Target moved their children's trans clothing from the front of the store. The paying customer does and should have a say. Our dollars do the speaking for us. Chin up, keep up the fight in any small way you can. Courage is contagious. Remember, the Revolutionary War was won with only 3% of the total population participation.

  • @chrisfrank4267
    @chrisfrank4267 Месяц назад +18

    This guy is a schill for wokeness

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад +3

      Lol, did you even watch the video? Beyond your comprehension?

  • @mitchellmckenzie8138
    @mitchellmckenzie8138 Месяц назад +7

    I'm not boycotting Harley. I just can't afford a new bike.

  • @tbone6293
    @tbone6293 Месяц назад +11

    Boycotting worked good for the leftists over the decades. Feel bad for the workers but their company doesn’t feel bad for them at all. How many lost their jobs because of the color of their skin or who they have sex with. Most are sick of the nonsense that’s being pushed by the world economic forum. I have an older Harley and was looking at getting a new one. Not now. There are plenty of great bikes other than Harley.

  • @mike8748
    @mike8748 Месяц назад +5

    I mean the bud light thing seems to make a difference when people boycotted it! It is hard to predict what would happen, but if you do nothing, nothing will happen!

  • @paddleboatman3767
    @paddleboatman3767 Месяц назад +16

    Tractor supplies caved into a boycott. Americans are a lot more pissed off. Australia is irrelevant in this. Let's see new bike sales in 12 months. Clothing sale will hurt them to. I just bought a bike so irrelevant although if buying today could make an indian look good.

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 Месяц назад +1

      Have you seen those new sequined HD T-Shirts and Kevlar fishnet stockings? I don't think Beverly Davidson is going out of business any time soon with fashion like that, darling.

    • @martinhaskell376
      @martinhaskell376 28 дней назад

      It’s funny you know, Triumph shifted much of their production to Thailand, doesn’t seem to have affected them too much…

  • @tonyasjdhdu4267
    @tonyasjdhdu4267 Месяц назад +4

    Harley do not understand their customers or they don't care. A large majority of bikers are conservative. We believe in earning a position, speaking your mind and standing up for what is right. This DEI and gay pride bullshit is not what we are about.

  • @frankopanklaric
    @frankopanklaric 27 дней назад +5

    No one has a "right" to your money. If they can't give you a product you want then just walk on by.

  • @sunnydaze-z4b
    @sunnydaze-z4b Месяц назад +4

    This guy has some serious issues with reality. If you refuse to spend your money with a company, they feel it . If you think that boycotts don't work , ask bud light. No company can stay in business for long if everyone refuses to buy their products.

  • @ccw-cs6xb
    @ccw-cs6xb Месяц назад +5

    Wrong, boycott is the answer. For reliability, the bikes need to be rebuilt with aftermarket parts anyway.

  • @BangChief_AllIsOne
    @BangChief_AllIsOne Месяц назад +10

    Didn't watch. Saw the title n dropped in to say, you're wrong. Absolutely.
    Salute

  • @johnconnors3883
    @johnconnors3883 Месяц назад +24

    Generally agree with you but its not going to stop me from boycotting Harley Davidson, i was in the process of buying a trike but told dealer principle i wasn't going forward with the purchase, i have 4 other harleys and a Buell but enough is enough.
    I am small fry but had enough of this woke bullshit. Harley is gone in my view way before this, aging core customer base, increase of price per unit and reducing number of units for sale, no decent intro bike, honestly how thick are these people, look at the new triumph 400cc bike, selling hand over fist. Just look at Geelong Harley with the new franchise look, cost a bomb and all the older bikes given the arse....well its my time to give a new purchase the arse.

    • @elbowsout6301
      @elbowsout6301 Месяц назад +2

      The core customer base hasn't actually aged it's still primarily the 45 year old's that are buying them. (I just bought my first one at age 48). The latest video at "Spikes Corner" goes over this and he talks about how Harley plans to buy back $1 Billion over the next couple of years. Perhaps there hope is to go woke drive prices of shares down before they start buying them back.

    • @bluddyrowdy8757
      @bluddyrowdy8757 Месяц назад

      @John
      A trike ? Seriously ?
      The advantage of a MoCycle is it fits in-between the Cars, and on footpaths !
      You Lose alla that advantage with a Trike = might as well buy a Car......

    • @johnconnors3883
      @johnconnors3883 Месяц назад +2

      @@elbowsout6301 just watched it, never thought about the buy back of stock and pump the price, thanks

    • @johnconnors3883
      @johnconnors3883 Месяц назад +2

      @@bluddyrowdy8757 yep mate, can see your point but wanted to ''future proof'' for riding , i liked the look of the freewheeler, the others did nothing for me, wanted the the abillity to take my girl out in comfort.

    • @bluddyrowdy8757
      @bluddyrowdy8757 Месяц назад

      @@johnconnors3883
      so comfort, that still = buy a Car ?
      My Missus bought her own Harley, I was stoked, BUT, she reckoned it 'saved fuel' to get on the back of Mine always heheheh..
      Sissy-bars are called that for a Reason, to stop the 'sissy' on the back coming orf..not that i have ever worn one, but my Missus did have the habit of sleeping on long journeys.. ( freaked me out sometimes ). We are All individuals Matey, so good on You Brother woteva You choose !

  • @bobrod5834
    @bobrod5834 Месяц назад +3

    The ceo just told millions of customers they can be replaced with a younger group. Hd is turning their back on the people who keep them in business. If the board doesnt realize their base is their bread and butter, i wont feed their agenda or buy their product.

  • @Chainsaw2373
    @Chainsaw2373 Месяц назад +5

    I disagree with you, look at what your approach has done to England. You have to fight on end up where they are.

    • @martinhaskell376
      @martinhaskell376 28 дней назад

      What’s happened in England then? I live here and I have no idea what you’re talking about…

  • @thebruiser4114
    @thebruiser4114 25 дней назад +5

    What kind of twisted logic is this? Boycotting will backfire on the consumer? I think not. Gaslighting nonsense.
    Better yet -- just avoid the company forever. "Fool me once...."

  • @johnnycfi
    @johnnycfi Месяц назад +22

    Sorry Pal, you are wrong. Never give up! Fight!

  • @User98938
    @User98938 Месяц назад +5

    Way to pick the unpopular opinion lol. Of course you need Harley for your channel to survive

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад

      Incorrect I can do a channel on almost any subject, most would pay more

  • @pantera29palms
    @pantera29palms 25 дней назад +5

    True capitalism is fueled by competition. Last time I checked, Harley Davidson does not have a monopoly on American culture and fun. Boycott whatever the F you want and go elsewhere people.
    👍

  • @brentmatheson4729
    @brentmatheson4729 Месяц назад +2

    I have been looking for a touring bike for my wife and me. I do not own one. I was looking at a HD and now I am not. They are off my list. I have cash to buy and now I won't. Let's be honest. This is just the latest move in the long history of HD making poor business decisions. I teach a class in equity valuation at a university and I remember using HD as an example of a company that is so iconic yet just can't get out of its own way and make good decisions. The key thing that HD had was customer loyalty and identity. Love it or hate it, HD riders are HD riders and they owned it. Good for them. Now if that loyalty is tested again and again, the company deserves....all companies deserve to face the ramifications of ignoring their customers.

  • @theodavies8754
    @theodavies8754 Месяц назад +12

    It's binary.
    There is either a zero or a one. As an individual you are a 1. As a sovereign being you have only yourself. People like to think they belong to something to feel less alone in a relatively large universe.
    Time is our most precious resource, don't waste it on trivia.

  • @lowmopar265
    @lowmopar265 Месяц назад +17

    Realy i dont give a shit i have a 97 heritage had for 12 yrs got a 2021ultra made in usa Im fighting Cancer so got bigger things to worry about... been riding 50 yrs trying to get few more...
    FTW

    • @davidmurray9193
      @davidmurray9193 Месяц назад

      Hope you have a speedy recovery

    • @sunnydaze-z4b
      @sunnydaze-z4b Месяц назад

      i had colon cancer and cured it with Fenbendazole. Available on Amazon. costs about 80 bucks but it works. I hope it will work for you. I wish you a fast recovery.

    • @SonicMegaUltra1234
      @SonicMegaUltra1234 Месяц назад

      Hang in there Bro. I beat throat cancer back in January 2022. You can beat it. Be positive and use the law of attraction. It worked for me. And ride on!

    • @KHuggins-vy1im
      @KHuggins-vy1im 25 дней назад

      God bless brother.,..

  • @mattdonna9677
    @mattdonna9677 Месяц назад +6

    Some of us got wise and gave up on H-D decades ago. Their bikes are more of a status symbol. Other companies have been making better motorcycles than H-D For a long time. My Honda can beat up your Harley. 😊

    • @leswhite3846
      @leswhite3846 7 дней назад

      My yamaha shits on harleys daily.

  • @paparalph4
    @paparalph4 Месяц назад +9

    I live in Milwaukee and drive a Harley. The engine plant located here, Harley is moving most of the production the plant does to Thailand. Is that going to reduce the cost of a Harley? NO! Are the workers in Thailand going to get the same wages as the workers in Milwaukee made? NO!! It's just corporate greed. I as well as several of my ridding buddies have taken our Harley emblems off our bikes, and so far any parts needed to keep our bikes running, we have some local shops that make comparable parts as well as repair shops to work on our bikes. So my bike may have started as a Harley, it may have an S&S engine and so on. Might seem small, but this can grow and maybe, just maybe Harley can buy itself back from these outside owners.

  • @dwaynestomp5462
    @dwaynestomp5462 Месяц назад +15

    Fuck 'em. My '87 Softail is in tip-top shape.....

    • @thekrutchinator
      @thekrutchinator Месяц назад +1

      My 75 Shovel still tearing up the road!

    • @EdwardTillotson-hj5pk
      @EdwardTillotson-hj5pk Месяц назад +2

      And you can keep it running forever without having to buy a fucking THING from the Motor Company

    • @WalkaboutPhilippines
      @WalkaboutPhilippines Месяц назад

      Still riding my 1983 FLHS, got it new in 1983​@@thekrutchinator

    • @PineRidgeRez
      @PineRidgeRez Месяц назад +1

      Evo's forever.

  • @renesten2980
    @renesten2980 Месяц назад +3

    One reason Harley stock price is high is due to their buying back of shares and reducing the number of shares available.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  Месяц назад

      thats correct but that just means they have plenty of cash and they have nothing outside to buy. Eventually less shares means a greater % holding for the major shareholders

  • @kevinsmith4585
    @kevinsmith4585 29 дней назад +8

    It takes zero energy to boycott something.

    • @OldNotDead-Club
      @OldNotDead-Club  29 дней назад

      thats is correct but human behaviour dictates that people will think "the job will be done" and the real problem will just grow

  • @wboeren1
    @wboeren1 Месяц назад +11

    In short, be a motorcycle family, unite in that.

  • @1wesleydb
    @1wesleydb Месяц назад +8

    Im keeping my bike, I'll probably change insurance from HD to something else, I will refinance or payoff early to avoid paying HD more intrest,and buy aftermarket parts.
    It's not the same as switching beer but I don't want to fund hurting kids... Id rather walk

    • @thekrutchinator
      @thekrutchinator Месяц назад +2

      I've got 3 Harleys from Shovelhead to Roadking and all used purchases so the Corporate puppets have none of my coin and I'll never buy another Harley-Davidson stubby holder ever again!

  • @kirk32216
    @kirk32216 Месяц назад +9

    You are correct about media quit watching in 2016. Amazing what you see and hear when you do

  • @kellanhills1972
    @kellanhills1972 Месяц назад +8

    “Don’t boycott Harley Davidson” says the man who makes money from promoting Harley Davidson. 😂😂. Ridiculous. Boycott the woke fools. It’s the only power we have. Besides Australia is already far left and far gone.

  • @josephgriffin1065
    @josephgriffin1065 Месяц назад +2

    Harley needs its customers way more than the customers need Harley, there is nothing you can’t buy or modify outside of the company, Harley has an aftermarket support system that most other companies could only wish for.

  • @BigVeegs
    @BigVeegs Месяц назад +9

    Spitting lots of valuable truth here. Good pointing out the long term plan of those who seek to do us harm. Centuries of planning. There’s so much more to come but a lot of people are like boiling frogs.

  • @TheDallasdeadeye
    @TheDallasdeadeye 25 дней назад +6

    by the way trump 2024!

  • @berettaguy5414
    @berettaguy5414 Месяц назад +11

    Buy an Indian and buy a lot more guns.

    • @Jonathan-L
      @Jonathan-L Месяц назад

      Royal Enfield are 'made like a gun' in India. That's as Indian as you can get :)

  • @SteveCaruana-u9l
    @SteveCaruana-u9l Месяц назад +1

    I had two Harleys in the past and I’m thinking of buying another one and I guarantee you it won’t be Harley boycotting completely

  • @leonmichaels3368
    @leonmichaels3368 26 дней назад +3

    Wanna really fight
    Educate yourself
    Vote in ur local elections
    Disregard legacy media
    Don’t buy their shit 😮

  • @johnmacdonald1878
    @johnmacdonald1878 Месяц назад +17

    If you don't like the company policy don't by its stock. If the head they them or whatever in charge at Harley is woke or not WTF would I care. Ride the Bike you enjoy.
    WTF would you let a bunch of F wits influence your choice of ride.
    I drink Real Budweiser from the Czech Republic and ride a BMW. I could care less about their politics. I gave up worrying about the alphabet when they got to Q now its just meaningless bollocks. Just live your life and treat people the way you would like to be treated.
    Enjoy Your Ride

    • @chrisnevergrowold330
      @chrisnevergrowold330 Месяц назад +2

      This. Mind your own damn business, live the life you want. Don't fret about what others do, certainly not what other corporations do. Dump your ride because you dont like what a corporation does? So silly. Cheers to you!

    • @robertbishop5164
      @robertbishop5164 Месяц назад

      @@chrisnevergrowold330

    • @ducttapetech
      @ducttapetech Месяц назад

      I agree to a point. When they force all of their employees to follow their bs politics. Not good.

  • @kevinahern7818
    @kevinahern7818 27 дней назад +3

    Will the new electric Harley's vibrate like the old Harley's? I guess the "woke crowd" will love that.

    • @KHuggins-vy1im
      @KHuggins-vy1im 25 дней назад

      I heard from a good source that the electric bike they marketed sold less than 10 world wide and dealers can’t park them inside their showrooms because of a fear of burning there business down.

  • @hatchetjack1031
    @hatchetjack1031 Месяц назад +3

    I've got a KTM. caught it prancing around in track tires last night. Now it's " transing" into a GP bike. Should have known when it showed up dressed in orange!

    • @jeffreyyeater1780
      @jeffreyyeater1780 29 дней назад +2

      I have a fat bob and a ktm 1190 adventure R. Lol. My pronouns are RED NECK.

  • @JohnETobin
    @JohnETobin Месяц назад +4

    This channel used to be about riding didn't it?

  • @RicoMoneybags
    @RicoMoneybags 28 дней назад +2

    dont listen to this guy... boycotting is the only way

  • @shmodzilla
    @shmodzilla Месяц назад +5

    Yeah dont do anything, works great. Have fun on your rainbow electric harley quiin bikes.

  • @Rebelliosaurus
    @Rebelliosaurus Месяц назад +3

    Unfortunately enough you are right, the wrong people are hurt by a boycot! We also hurt ourselves if we ride older Harley's by devaluating our own bikes! By stockprices dropping we do the very very rich owners a favour. Like you said, we are being played!

  • @pj4433
    @pj4433 Месяц назад +3

    No it won’t. Obviously it won’t but this video begs the question. Did they pay you?

  • @dustyw
    @dustyw Месяц назад +1

    Obviously as an American, I 100% disagree with your view on the boycott. The employees will understand, go woke go broke. Will NOT buy another Harley or the merch until they walk back this woke bs. Will be buying aftermarket American made parts, taking off all Harley badges and emblems on my bike. Unfortunately boycotting is the only way to fight for change. I could care less about the stock holders. The stock market is rigged anyways. My investment is which bike I buy, and if a company goes woke against the backbone of their supporters then they can bet im a lost customer. Anyways, boycotting works, there is options on different bikes that are not political like custom made. 👍 Nice sales pitch on the pants btw... American made?

  • @jayteesgear
    @jayteesgear Месяц назад +3

    I’ve thought of all your points. MANY companies are using DEI to dumb down employees. Bravo on showcasing the “Tiers”. It is all true. I myself will still Boycott Harley and Indian. Unfortunately it will hurt mechanics and good dealers but they should stand tall as well. No hate my brother but I am boycotting both companies

    • @dennismoraisus4187
      @dennismoraisus4187 Месяц назад

      You have to, man, This author is out to lunch. Boycotts do work. And yes, scumbag Polaris is just as bad as Homo-Davidson. This isn't even about stock prices or layoffs - THOSE ARE THE DISTRACTIONS. You see what this guy is doing? This about good vs evil. Plain and simple.

  • @DriftlessinWisconsin
    @DriftlessinWisconsin 14 дней назад +1

    I don’t give money to companies that hate me. Period. That’s capitalism for you.

  • @FrenchFace88
    @FrenchFace88 26 дней назад +3

    Never liked HD in the first place

  • @MiltonBaron-l1i
    @MiltonBaron-l1i 25 дней назад +1

    A guy with an Australian accent is telling me not to boycott woke Harley Davidson. Go woke go broke! brother!

  • @michaelfuller2378
    @michaelfuller2378 27 дней назад +4

    This from a guy who lives in a country that has surrendered their right to self defense and firearm ownership. What other great advice do you have to offer, buy Amalgamated Iron at 26?

  • @YeahNahMaybe947
    @YeahNahMaybe947 Месяц назад +3

    Got ya chef's hat on again Ayem 😁, & cooking up a pot of woke vs anti woke stew. (Rant begins) Generally speaking of course, Mate I couldn't eat another bite I'm quite sufficiently replenished (read I've had a bloody gut full ). Passionate Harley rider who watches motorcycle channels (in the vain) hope of getting away from all that BS. Cards on the table, I'm centre left (a very rare unprotected critter & on a Harley so they tell me) with zero animosity to those of the centre right. Mate its the lunatic fringe on BOTH SIDES have commandeered & cleared the towns square of all common sense compromise between the centre right & centre left. Its been dragged out into the street & had the living sh!t kicked out it by the lunatic fanatics on both sides of politics (Rant ends) . Fear is like fire a little bit in the right place keeps your family warm on those cold winter nights to much in the wrong place & it will burn your house down to the ground.

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    @qporiffopr 26 дней назад +1

    Harley's got 7 billion in debt and only 4 billion in revenues that aren't growing.
    They are hosed!