Eric I just finished this job with all your tips in this video. My Van was a Honda 2002 Odyssey. Appreciate your channel & your website. Staying dirty here Alabama.
you sound like you have so much fun with the impact and especially the torch... "AND NOW BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED SHOCK MAINTENCE ALREADY IN PROGRESS"
Since the bottom stud is at a weird angle the manual states to compress the shock to clear the top part of the frame and you can maneuver it better. Takes a lot less hammering to get it off. Same thing on putting it on. Compress first and it slides right on the stud.
Eric do a great job. Maybe someone mention that before in comments. I want to add that you all should tight mounting points of a shock absorber when car is standing on wheels. That prevents twisting of rubber.
7:00 Eric you could've just compressed the shock all the way and slipped in on the lower stud, then re-orientate the top of the shock into the top mount. This would have saved you 30sec of beating it with a hammer.
Good video. Maybe I'm the only one who noticed, but when Eric was jacking up the van, (fast motion) I happened to look over to the right, and noticed the Elvis clock legs going and got a giggle out of it! lol
He likes to keep it real. 99% of his viewers don't have a lift so he uses jack stands to show how to do it in your driveway. Also, lifts are expensive. I think he talked about it in an ETCG1 segment or something.
a hammer is invaluable for suspension parts(ball joints, ect.) and drum brakes, also useful for pushing pistons into cylinders(with the handle pushing against the piston head) and a myriad of other things. also a hammer and punch help start a hole for drilling.
I used a torch and an impact to take off the exhaust bolts off the manifold/cat of a 2001 honda civic lx. yea, 11 years of road salt from Pa / Oh. one came out, the other snapped off, good times.. Had to extract the bolt by drilling it out once I got the Manifold out. I have a little MAP gas tank and torch end I use all the time, I don't even mess with a tierod end until its lock nut is glowing.
I have been told that copper anti-seize is more appropriate for high-temperature applications (like brakes) than silver, but if you look at the packaging, they are usually rated for the same temperature range anyway.
I'd rather use PB Blaster or Kroil than an oxy-actelene torch. Risk of fire, and usually it will change the temper- making things very hard & brittle. I've seen many fasteners snap under load after being hardened- especially suspension fasteners & points. You must be very experienced when using hi temp. Propane or MOX is usually enough to expand metal to loosen. Please remember, Eric- you got Newbees here too.
I thought they were called shocks. I was not aware they had to show oil dripping on them. Maybe all the oil came out a long time ago and they're dry now. My 2002 Odyssey is now 22 years old and in the metro Minnesota gets a lot of salt
True. My mom had a early 00's Chrysler TC. Leaf springs on the rear and a weak 3.3L pushrod V6. We had it because we couldn't afford a Honda minivan. Honda minis are better in every way but quite a bit more money. (The TCs made today are much better though)
The use of the torch probably resulted in damaging the insulation layer on the car in that region. I have never had to use the torch (at least yet). A bit of wire brushing and a good soaking with penetrating fluid does the job, and we really do have a lot of salt on the roads in witertime. A torque wrench is a must. This is not a very sensitive area, vut on a gearstick linkage, improper toque results in poor gearshifting. I do most of the mechanical work on my car (all, except timing belts).
You are right, I replaced the rear 'shocks' with a known brand but non Honda item, and the ride was harsher. The vehicle is a JDM 99 V6 Odyssey. Sold new in Japan but contains a lot of 'Made In USA' parts on it. Go figure.
I was thinking it might work well for you to use a GoPro around your head to allow you to film easier and just leave your other camera stationary. Would free up your hands and still allow for good viewing. Just a thought.
10:00 Also remember NOT to heat that Brake line, cas tank(or pipes) or that Shock (all 3 seen left from the nut). If you do, you may hear bang and hurt your self.
Nice video Eric. I prefer Shocks to Dampers. I really must get an impact gun for my compressor...I can think of 10 dozen jobs that would have been easier with one *looks at the crank bolt*. When you were heating the stubborn nut was that the fuel filler pipe over to the left?!
Wow that helps, I thought KYB supplies Honda for OE shocks, and what is that black thing in between the coils it almost looks like an air bag but Its not, I have an 05 ody and mine are orange. Thanks, great vid
Well, last I checked Odysseys have horrid transmissions as well. Not only did they wear quickly, some could lock up and bring the vehicles to a halt on the highway. Not sure Caravans were that bad, and they are considerably cheaper than an Odyssey.
I have heard of electrical induction type heaters that are supposed to work well and are much safer than an open flame, but I have never used one. What is your opinion on them?
Hi Eric, I noticed you use impact tools on these jobs as you mentioned. Do you recommend Mac impact sockets or Snap on impact sockets? I know Snap On has a lifetime warranty but which brand do you use? Which brand is the best investment that will last a long time? Thanks, Marc
Eric, i have a question i have the same van and year u have...what cause it when i go over bump is have a clunk sound from the rear back .. I just replace 2 new shock on the back but seen still not solve the problem. Please lmk what cause it. Thank you.
Thanks, Eric. Would my need for new dampers be evidenced by leaking fluid and a slight crunchy pulsing noise at low speeds from the rear drivers wheel? I'm experiencing a crunchy noise when brakes are applied at under 15mph. Brakes and rotors appear to be fine but fluid is definitely leaking from the damper.
Eric, I know this has absolutely nothing to do with the video, but I feel like I have to know; do you still enjoy working on cars? In one of your other videos you said it's not quite as fun when you do it for a living....now, you're no longer a dealer tech where you're doing it everyday, so has some of that fun come back? Thanks
Eric, I have a 2hp 40 litre air compressor and impact ratchet. Problem is it's pretty gutless. Is 40 litres too small to effectively drive the ratchet? Your advice would be much appreciated,
I'm looking to Change my rear springs because I carry alot of weight in the back of my van and would like to put in some extra heavy duty springs for that reason so do you recommend any or what size or thickness or brand ... I do understand thT it will sit higher some without the weight and should I put different shocks also along with the rear ???
Until you hit 100k miles and the transmission quits. My mom's made it to 100k but it was getting unreliable. the steering parts were pretty badly worn out and had just been replaced. Then we crashed and totaled it.
Working as ETCG is the best job I've ever had, hands down. It's defiantly renewed my interest in auto repair.
Eric I just finished this job with all your tips in this video. My Van was a Honda 2002 Odyssey. Appreciate your channel & your website. Staying dirty here Alabama.
Thank you for showing you can hammer on the shock to force it into place. Great video 👍
Great video, Eric. You just mentored me in changing my shocks on my 04, including the torch on the LH side! Thanks so much.
you sound like you have so much fun with the impact and especially the torch... "AND NOW BACK TO OUR REGULARLY SCHEDULED SHOCK MAINTENCE ALREADY IN PROGRESS"
Since the bottom stud is at a weird angle the manual states to compress the shock to clear the top part of the frame and you can maneuver it better. Takes a lot less hammering to get it off. Same thing on putting it on. Compress first and it slides right on the stud.
Eric do a great job. Maybe someone mention that before in comments. I want to add that you all should tight mounting points of a shock absorber when car is standing on wheels. That prevents twisting of rubber.
7:00 Eric you could've just compressed the shock all the way and slipped in on the lower stud, then re-orientate the top of the shock into the top mount. This would have saved you 30sec of beating it with a hammer.
Just did this work on my '02. Your video was key. Had to heat up both upper bolts with a torch. Thanks man.
That shot when you lit the torch was perfect
Wow your stuff never stops getting better. Thanks.
Compress the shock and quickly install (slide on) on the bottom bolt, you don't have to hammer it in.
Good video. Maybe I'm the only one who noticed, but when Eric was jacking up the van, (fast motion) I happened to look over to the right, and noticed the Elvis clock legs going and got a giggle out of it! lol
my amigo i love your videos because i have honda odyssey 2001 god bless you
I've driven by the Showa factory in Blanchester a hundred times..never knew what they made, now I know Honda parts.
Taking that wheel off in fast motion looked like the NASCAR guys, haha
editing skills and pov`s are getting better and better. torch action was on point too, sir!
He likes to keep it real. 99% of his viewers don't have a lift so he uses jack stands to show how to do it in your driveway. Also, lifts are expensive. I think he talked about it in an ETCG1 segment or something.
10:20 I expected a little bit of oil or a trick and he used HELL FIRE
Great video eric
a hammer is invaluable for suspension parts(ball joints, ect.) and drum brakes, also useful for pushing pistons into cylinders(with the handle pushing against the piston head) and a myriad of other things. also a hammer and punch help start a hole for drilling.
I used a torch and an impact to take off the exhaust bolts off the manifold/cat of a 2001 honda civic lx. yea, 11 years of road salt from Pa / Oh. one came out, the other snapped off, good times.. Had to extract the bolt by drilling it out once I got the Manifold out. I have a little MAP gas tank and torch end I use all the time, I don't even mess with a tierod end until its lock nut is glowing.
I have been told that copper anti-seize is more appropriate for high-temperature applications (like brakes) than silver, but if you look at the packaging, they are usually rated for the same temperature range anyway.
I have to say that is the first time I've seen anything on a Honda be easy access when it comes to the suspension.
To anyone interested, standard Toyota OEM shocks/struts are KYB. (Upgrades are often billsteins or something else)
I know I'm not Eric, but I own one of these:
Harbor Freight: Electric Impact Wrench Item Number: 68099
It's never let me down. Amazing what it can do.
I like your sense of humor Eric!
I'd rather use PB Blaster or Kroil than an oxy-actelene torch. Risk of fire, and usually it will change the temper- making things very hard & brittle. I've seen many fasteners snap under load after being hardened- especially suspension fasteners & points. You must be very experienced when using hi temp. Propane or MOX is usually enough to expand metal to loosen. Please remember, Eric- you got Newbees here too.
Chrysler vans are technologically archaic but they are pretty bulletproof and still sold in crazy quantities.
As that bolt came out a little working it back in and out many times will safely remove it. Just take more time. Sorry on grease is a good help.
Great video, I like the part where you used the torch; real shock value in that.
Read the post I put on my forum as to why I don't have a lift.
That torch was badass!
Eric, the car guy.
Eric the car, guy.
Eric, the car, guy.
They both work the same. I just use the copper cause it's handy.
I thought they were called shocks.
I was not aware they had to show oil dripping on them. Maybe all the oil came out a long time ago and they're dry now. My 2002 Odyssey is now 22 years old and in the metro Minnesota gets a lot of salt
Now why did i expect you to say "Smokin" after the hot bolt came out ha ha :-)
Eric, I'd love to learn about proper blow torch use, especially in tight spaces, such as the senario here in this video. Thanks.
Maybe. You really need to get stuff cherry red for heating to be effective.
True. My mom had a early 00's Chrysler TC. Leaf springs on the rear and a weak 3.3L pushrod V6. We had it because we couldn't afford a Honda minivan. Honda minis are better in every way but quite a bit more money. (The TCs made today are much better though)
Good video Eric
Yes.
Oh my....sorry I missed that! Thanks for replying.
The use of the torch probably resulted in damaging the insulation layer on the car in that region. I have never had to use the torch (at least yet). A bit of wire brushing and a good soaking with penetrating fluid does the job, and we really do have a lot of salt on the roads in witertime. A torque wrench is a must. This is not a very sensitive area, vut on a gearstick linkage, improper toque results in poor gearshifting.
I do most of the mechanical work on my car (all, except timing belts).
if the spring is sagging, yes. sagging springs have reduced load and shock absorbancy capacity.
Eric, please make a "how-to" video on engine mount inspection and repair. There aren't any good videos that address both issues! Thanks :)
Sold it.
You are right, I replaced the rear 'shocks' with a known brand but non Honda item, and the ride was harsher. The vehicle is a JDM 99 V6 Odyssey. Sold new in Japan but contains a lot of 'Made In USA' parts on it. Go figure.
Antiseize seem to come in two main flavors, copper and nickel. Can you tell me when you would want to use one over the other?
you got such a great sop, why dont you have a car lift? everything is so much easier with it
because WE don't have car lifts. And as such Eric is showing us how to do things with regular joe's tools.
My wife wants to lift her 2014 odyssey about 2 inches. Thoughts and suggestions? Thanks for this video.
For a more performance-oriented setup, would the single-tube type dampers/shocks be better than the double-tube type ones?
I was thinking it might work well for you to use a GoPro around your head to allow you to film easier and just leave your other camera stationary. Would free up your hands and still allow for good viewing. Just a thought.
RIP Eric the Car Guy 2013
@ 9:49 Eric uses his torch right next to the fuel filler hose.
Eric do you do this because it's your job or because it's your passion?
I have 2. One leaks, the other doesn't.
Cool stuff found.
Aftermarket is often fine for Chevy but not for Hondas.
Hammer is the king of tools!
I see people setting their cars alight.
10:00 Also remember NOT to heat that Brake line, cas tank(or pipes) or that Shock (all 3 seen left from the nut). If you do, you may hear bang and hurt your self.
I want to see what's up with that DA9 Teg in the background!
yes, it's KYB that make the OE shocks for hondas!
If you do not have access to an acetylene oxygen torch, would a MAPP gas torch work on a rusted fastener?
Music can anger the RUclips gods which is why I don't use it often.
Nice video Eric. I prefer Shocks to Dampers. I really must get an impact gun for my compressor...I can think of 10 dozen jobs that would have been easier with one *looks at the crank bolt*.
When you were heating the stubborn nut was that the fuel filler pipe over to the left?!
Wow that helps, I thought KYB supplies Honda for OE shocks, and what is that black thing in between the coils it almost looks like an air bag but Its not, I have an 05 ody and mine are orange. Thanks, great vid
Well, last I checked Odysseys have horrid transmissions as well. Not only did they wear quickly, some could lock up and bring the vehicles to a halt on the highway. Not sure Caravans were that bad, and they are considerably cheaper than an Odyssey.
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!!!
And Ody's are on Trans #?
Some say there worse then the ChryCo trans.
There both terrible.
Hey Eric. Unless it's broken, does the rear spring ever need to be replaced?
Do u torque the bolts ??
I have heard of electrical induction type heaters that are supposed to work well and are much safer than an open flame, but I have never used one. What is your opinion on them?
How about a electric impact gun? R they as good as the air powered ones?
You need a nickel based anti-seize. Good up to 2400℉.
cant wait till next Friday!
Thanks Eric, that's awesome :)
Hi Eric, I noticed you use impact tools on these jobs as you mentioned. Do you recommend Mac impact sockets or Snap on impact sockets? I know Snap On has a lifetime warranty but which brand do you use? Which brand is the best investment that will last a long time? Thanks, Marc
Eric, i have a question i have the same van and year u have...what cause it when i go over bump is have a clunk sound from the rear back .. I just replace 2 new shock on the back but seen still not solve the problem. Please lmk what cause it. Thank you.
Independent rear coil suspension.
Such a daft concept to Dodge/Chrysler in regards to their Minivans. lol.
Thanks, Eric. Would my need for new dampers be evidenced by leaking fluid and a slight crunchy pulsing noise at low speeds from the rear drivers wheel? I'm experiencing a crunchy noise when brakes are applied at under 15mph. Brakes and rotors appear to be fine but fluid is definitely leaking from the damper.
Check out the video link in the description.
Eric, I know this has absolutely nothing to do with the video, but I feel like I have to know; do you still enjoy working on cars? In one of your other videos you said it's not quite as fun when you do it for a living....now, you're no longer a dealer tech where you're doing it everyday, so has some of that fun come back? Thanks
Eric,
I have a 2hp 40 litre air compressor and impact ratchet.
Problem is it's pretty gutless. Is 40 litres too small to effectively drive the ratchet?
Your advice would be much appreciated,
I'm looking to Change my rear springs because I carry alot of weight in the back of my van and would like to put in some extra heavy duty springs for that reason so do you recommend any or what size or thickness or brand ...
I do understand thT it will sit higher some without the weight and should I put different shocks also along with the rear ???
How long do suspension parts normally last on a minivan? I have a 2011 Kia Sedona with 55,000 miles and it is getting noisy/bouncy.
is it full of stars?
Until you hit 100k miles and the transmission quits. My mom's made it to 100k but it was getting unreliable. the steering parts were pretty badly worn out and had just been replaced. Then we crashed and totaled it.
Check out the forum post on my website, "Why EricTheCarGuy doesn't have a Lift".
And were might the gas tank be, during all this happiness with the torch?
Eric, Just wanting to know what type of impact wrench your using? I'm looking for a new one and wanted your thoughts on what you use. Thank you.
very nice thank you
are you left or right handed Eric?
How do you tell if the spring is sagging?
But the music you made for ETCG1 was great!
Did you prime the shocks?
ERIC YOU ARE A HONDA FANBOY HAHA, COOL VID
Hey Eric. I cut my honda on the other day after a jump. Once i did it started to smoke in the engine area. What could it be?
6:20 HAHA is that Elvis dancing?
My main question is where can I get that clock on the wall?