I gotta agree with you Savo, the 2007 doesn't get enough love! One of my biggest beefs with the original Halloween is that Michael Myers isn't a character, he's just this unstoppable force. I appreciated Rob Zombie giving him a backstory and getting to see the reason he becomes so evil. For me it makes it scarier and more "realistic". I know some will disagree.
I agree partially, it’s good to build structure for a character by showing some early events, however if you over explain it feels like it sends the wrong message of why the character is why he is. This is all just my opinion and I respect anyone else’s
Also I’m not saying I don’t like these movies. If I truly despised them I wouldn’t watch they’re movies. I do appreciate them I just don’t prefer they’re arc
for a lot of people all that did was just make him less scary. It just makes people more sympathetic towards him which is kind of lame imo. Halloween 07 is basically a spinoff imo but lacks the fear factor of the original where he’s that mysterious unstoppable force
2018 Michael was vicious and over the top just like RZ Halloween movies. The only difference is they brought back the mystery and boogeyman aspect back to this new trilogy
Honestly I've never been a fan of the original Halloween movies because I never found it scary. I get bored watching it and always end up looking for something more interesting. I enjoyed Rob Zombie's remake because the back story added a missing element in my case. The remake made Michael scary - the brutality gets your blood pumping & I love it. I will admit I didn't like parts of the second Halloween movie, but he went with his vision.
Rob Zombies Halloween movies are incredibly underrated the first one just fascinated me in a way Zombie did a great job at having you feel an emotional way about the characters as well they were greatly developed the casting choice was amazing as well the whole red neck thing could have had it’s tweaks but other than that I loved them
I like the Rob Zombie one but I think it waste too much time trying to give Michael a history and motivation when what was so terrifying in the original was that he just seemed like an unstoppable force of nature. It also followed the mistake of making Laurie Strode his sister instead of a random person that he wanted to kill.
Great job, once again Savo! This is why I like your channel you fight for what you believe in & you're not afraid to speak your brutally honest opinion regardless of what People say or think, whether it's an unpopular opinion or not. And I agree with some of the points you said about The 2007 Rob Zombie Remake of Halloween being scarier and have some great scenes/moments that many people and reviewers didn't give it credit for or overlooked it.
John carpenters Halloween is my all time favourite film and there's nothing with wrong zombies version! I love his Michael and how vicious he is and even more so in the second
I feel like all the things they added in Halloween 2018 was fan service. Rather than just wipe away the other sequels they took pieces of each one as call backs for the fans.
I feel what you mean with the retelling of his childhood in the 07 remake but what makes me like it so much is how demented he is as a child. the original depicts him as a dumb ordinary child who is possessed and doesn't even understand or know what he does or did, but in the 07 remake he knows what he is doing and he means it. A kid who is neglected from the beginning and gets pushed more and more until he snaps, and snaps hard. And i really like that, its understandable. I hated the ''possessed kid'' story. its dumb and unrealistic. but yeah, it takes some of the mystery away but in my eyes its worth it for a more understandable telling of why he gets to be the monster he becomes.
I love Halloween (1978) and Halloween (2007) is absolutely underrated. However, i still prefer Halloween 2 (1981) over Halloween 2 (2018). Halloween 2 (2018) didnt impress me at all. I thought it was overrated garbage and Laurie basically became crazy cat lady in it. So yeah, much prefer Halloween 2007 over Halloween 2 (2018)
I honestly really enjoyed the 2007 film. I remember seeing it the cinema after school with a friend, and I watched a few scenes through my fingers. 🤣 In Halloween 2018, I think making Laurie not his sister anymore takes away his motive. Why the hell would he care about killing some random girl??
@@DisgustingDiscracw why should that be a shocker the one before it 2018 and the one's before the Rob Zombie one's were in the 90s and 00s were awful the only good one's out of the whole series are the original, Halloween II, Halloween 4, Halloween 5, and the two Rob Zombie Halloweens.
Always enjoyed the 2007 film. But a return to form is what Halloween needed. 2007 was more creative but 2018 was scarier. Michael is a silent killer. There doesn’t need to be any creativity to the story. People aren’t watching for the plot
I’d love to hear what you think of Halloween Kills and especially Ends because that film mostly does it’s own thing without borrowing from any of the others.
Love the part on forced comedy. Why is forced comedy a reoccurring trend nowadays in non-comedy movies? It doesn't add anything to the story, and it releases tension. Halloween 2018 is a great example. If the director removed the comedic elements, the movie would be better.
I have to say that I came to this video already knowing exactly what it was going to be, but I wanted to watch it anyways. With that being said, I agree. I hate that I agree honestly, because I wanted to love the 2018 remake so much, but it just wasn’t that scary. Furthermore, I do think that it is more entertaining to watch, but Rob Zombie definitely doesn’t get enough credit for trying to do something different and change up the formula. I love both movies, but 07 is surely the superior movie. Thank you for this video🙏🏾
i stopped reading once u said scary lol the worst argument anyone can say, it’s a sign ur not a horror fan bc horror fans don’t watch horror for scary bc their desensitised
I hated the fact that they got rid of the brother sister connection. It gave Michael purpose... so now he just chasing after some random girl that got away...
@@gunpuppy3533 Actually, your wrong. The withered appearance of his mask is similar to what somebody would imagine a real life Frankenstein, and someone called The Boogeyman to look like. I'd piss my pants, and be sure there'd be escape from death for me, if I saw The bigger Michael Myers, compared to the 18 Michael Myers.
I've been a fan of the franchise since '02....I was 12....and Resurrection was the first one I saw and I loved it at the time. 😅 I wanted to watch them all as soon as I could and I did. All of them still entertain me but the first 2 have always been my favorites. I agree there was nothing wrong with making Lori and Michael siblings. I felt the newest one should've at least kept Halloween 2 relevant. As far as Rob Zombie goes...I'll watch them and I do enjoy the back story content he did. My biggest issue with it is how big of a douchebag Dr Loomis was turned into by the second one. He was always my favorite in the series cuz he was always warning everyone they're in danger and that Michael is very much alive and will return....in Zombie's he's just a screaming jerk and just wanting to profit off his story. That's the most annoying change Zombie made in my opinion.
Good points. Sounds similar to what I went through with Halloween 6. I saw that movie with friends in junior high and we had such a fun time watching it. It's one of my favorites just based on nostalgia and how atmospheric it is. But I know as far as the story goes, it's just not a true Halloween tale. I don't mind that the 2018 movie did something new with taking off right after the original. I liked that aspect since the previous two timelines both included being continuations from the 1981 sequel. It's just the 2018 film lacked atmosphere. And you could tell it was made by someone very new to horror. There's so many scenes that should have been edited. Zombie's suffers from poor dialogue but I have to agree with the guy in the video, it was certainly its own thing and it was pretty hard to watch at times due to how intense it was. The ending was far more climactic than it was in the 2018 movie but Michael definitely was an improvement and more in line with the original, which I preferred.
Me quedo con el de 2018. No solo por que sea mi favorito, sino porque fue el primero que vi, y me encantó lo siniestro y sanguinario que puede ser. Me encanta esa frialdad con la que mata a las víctimas sin decir palabra alguna. Luego vi otras versiones y no me gustaron las de poderes o maldiciones, a Michael lo quiero más humano, pero la versión de Rob Zombie aunque me gusta, no es mi favorita porque al final siente empatía por su hermana y después quiere vengarse, en la original ya se mostraba que Michael quería matar a su hermana a toda costa. Aunque dije que lo de las maldiciones no me gusten, si me encantó el hecho de que sea "La reencarnación del mal" implantada el un humano. Esas son las cosas que me gustaron, aunque Rob Zombie quiso hacer a Michael más humano, no me convenció del todo.
I appreciate the zombie film but still like 2018 better and the original. I’m not a big fan of knowing the whole backstory I think the not knowing is more eerie and disturbing.
Both films have hits and misses. I agree that Halloween RZ was a great movie for a young audience who needed to re-fear the character Michael Myers after a mess like Resurrection. But RZ makes a fatal mistake and it is to try to explain the character, transforming him not only into the cliche of the American psychopath but also making him a victim himself. Rob Zombie's Michael Myers is a victim in every sense of the word and that easily anyone would think that in a different context he could have been a good person. Which does not make it terrifying in my opinion, rather it hurts. This is the only contribution that Rob Zombie could give because after the childhood of Michael Myers, the film is almost a copy of the original from 78 but with some stupid versions of the other characters, it is a film with the half made by order because they never left that Rob Zombie had total control of the film (in h2 I realized why), it shows that it is not a film made with feeling. The film is pretentious in many moments with unnecessary situations and I think that even though it worked at the time, the errors become more evident over time. H18 could have been a better movie, it is a mix of all the sequels together and I think there are many aspects that can be better, but it has a huge success. It really feels like a Halloween movie, and beyond giving a "new version of the character" it brought to the table the value of the first movie for new generations who had even only seen the two Halloween remakes. And that, my friend, is something that no sequel since H2 has ever accomplished.
I must concur and would also like to add my own thoughts on this subject matter. A couple of things to note about the the remake, original and what the 2018 addition brought to the franchise. 1. His size! While some may suggest Tyler Manes size and height brought an imposing factor to the character I felt as though it did not and rather made him into a stereotypical brutish type character which isn't completely what The Shape is about. In the original he was only 5 ft 10 and his build was average and the character was part human part supernatural. The Shape in a physical form was just a "normal" guy who was an unstoppable force who could appear anywhere at anytime and that's difficult to do when you're 6 ft 8 and have a large build! If anything for me it makes him less scary having him so physically large. 2. The Backstory. While I appreciate the attempt Rob tried to make in explaining the backstory of the character it had one fundamental flaw and that was the attempt at trying to explain it in the first place. One of the key aspects that made the original scary was that you didn't know his backstory other than what we are told through the opening and Dr Loomis' psychoanalysis of the character. For me one way to build better tension and suspense is to have the suspense and information be told through others which can convey fear as opposed to seeing it for yourself which Rob did with The Shape. It takes away the mystique and process of being told something and having it flow through your head instead of seeing it and getting a definitive sight of what is being done. 3. The Violence. Of coarse as with any horror movie there will be violence in some form or another. As much as I am a fan of violence in horror films and viewing the various ways of how people die within these movies, too much and extensive violence becomes less scary and just plain right stupid. In the original and the 2018 version the kills were subtle yet effective in the true form of The Shape and in the way he deals with people. One thing I didn't like about Rob's version was that in Michael's killings he seemed more human than this part human part supernatural force and just straight up brutish which isn't wasn't the Shape is about at all. In his killings he grunts and makes noises and the death scenes are too drawn out with extensive blood and violence which begins to lose it's fear factor and instead you're going "oh not this again". With the original and the 2018 there was less blood in contrast to Zombie's remake and the kills were quick and not drawn out with extensive violence, though they were of coarse violent but within the limits of what The Shape is truly capable of and really captures the characters ways of dealing with people. Excessive violence and blood isn't what makes a horror film contrary to what many may believe, it's a culmination of things such as atmosphere, tension and suspense etc qualities I felt Zombie's remakes did not have.
wouldnt call him a victim persay, he was just crazy. i mean the whole "villans arent born, they are made" thing applys to alot of ppl. and yeah its a cliche i get it, but what would you want from a micheal myers movie? find out hes a demon? no. even the original halloween said that micheal was a crazy kid and grew up to be a phycopath man. RZ just dove deep into that part.
@@paramidea6812 sociopaths and psychopaths aren't crazy though they are completely sane and know the consequences of their actions Psychotics are the crazy people and suffer from psychosis which is a variety of mental disorders that mess with the victims perception of reality like schizophrenia for example Psychopaths suffer from psychopathy and are born that way because it is psychological and hereditary Sociopaths suffer from sociopathy and they are made that way from environmental factors such as abuse, bullying, broken home, neglect, etc.
I really like Rob Zombies Halloween movies. I don't think they get the proper respect they should get. Granted the 2nd Halloween by Zombie is not as good, but it's also not as bad as people say.
A little heavy on the exposition here (lots of words at a fast pace in the first couple of minutes) but nonetheless a well made video, as usual. Maybe a little bit of an odd request, but maybe you should make a slasher short film. You’ve been doing videos on classic horror flicks for years and I’d be curious to see what you could put together.
One thing I hated about the 2018, kills is the stupid scenes where the characters clearly have an opportunity to kill Myers but don't take it. In the 2018, Laurie clearly could have shot Myers repeatedly in the face/head with all her guns. After shooting off part of his hand was an opportunity but no let's go and run and hide in cellar. In kills, Laurie daughter stabs Myers in back with pitchfork, falls face first on the ground with a clear opportunity to take the pitchfork and ram it into the back of his skull but no, let's take my girly foot and step on his head lol. And the mob scene 😆 dont even get me started with that stupidity. Zombies works bc Myers is brutal, scary and more believable.
As a die hard Halloween fan i can't agree with you i mean numbers say it all aswell Rob Zombie's Halloween movies dont even hold a candle towards 1978 or 2018 no way man
2018 Halloween is horrible but I can agree with the original Halloween definitely my favorite but I don't get all the hate for Rob Zombies Halloween it's not that bad I like how they make Michael more intimidating
The problem with robs version is that he has too many obnoxious characters, Michaels Origins are too cliché. And the second half of the movie is just a shot for shot remake of the original Halloween with more gore and nudity added. It’s a guilty pleasure.
Ooooh man, hard disagree on Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers not having atmosphere. It's the only one on the franchise that I own on DvD and the only one I find myself even caring to rewatch anymore. Has a very 90s strobe lights Haunted House like vibe to it and that's the kind of Horror I grew up with.
That one is Erie for sure. But most agree it’s pretty out of whack and all over the place. I think it’s actually the one the general audience knows the least.
@@savocentral6579 I'd say Resurrection is the one that's the least known. Fell right in the middle of 2 defining generations for the character (Halloween 6/H20 and Zombie's remake) so it really didn't have any audience or following to latch onto. That's the funny thing about that franchise. I personally know die-hard fans for every single one of those films EXCEPT Resurrection. That one only gets embraced in a "so bad, it's good" kinda way like with Batman & Robin or something.
It depends like Rob Zombies Michael would probably fair well against Jason while the others I don't know about. I like the Halloween franchise more and my favor slasher villain is Michael but I'd take Jason to win
The sister timeline came into play in 2 onward,so to make a alternate ending trilogy that never goes to the hospital or shows him escape was a the perfect niche to just have a alternate angle of getting John Carpenter and JLC back and I understand your fondnoess to zombies film but what he got right in the first 2 acts fails once it becomes the original Halloween sped up for a ending.....had 07 did a totslly diffferent ending love it more......but it just showed me how flawed the whole film was.......the 78 film had 90 min to make the last act work mostly from Laurie's perspective....not rushing her perspective...2018 had some tone issues sure but overall it's the closest a sequel has ever got to the original tone and feel of uncertainty like a great white shark with no motive.....that's Myers to me not ted bundy or gacy style backstory making me feel sympathetic to someone who didnt need that backstory to be scary to start with.
The original is the only one I really enjoy. I couldn’t get through the Rob Zombie version. I liked the 3rd one for being different. I skipped so many of these but if the original comes on I have to watch some of it.
You’re saying the rob zombie’s halloween remake is piece of sh*t? But i know that halloween are talking about is michael myers in the franchises kills,brutals,horror even more scarier like the other movies. Plus the may sequels of the John Carpenter’s Halloween Movies which is making a Halloween Returns in 2018 is much better than the Rob Zombies’ Halloween Remake in 2007 & 2009. It will ingore the Halloween 4 to 6 horror movies and not featurette by michael myers in Halloween 3 Season Of The Witch. I watched the Original Movie Halloween 1 made the movie film by John Carpenter & playable character of main Antagonist The Shape as Nick Castle. The Ending of halloween 1 the unmasked of michael myers age 23 as Tony Moran who’s played unmasked.
in my opinion Halloween 2007 is a terrible movie, with very bad dialogue and extremely caricatured and poorly made characters, this movie seems to me like a child begging for attention to show how dark and violent it is, and this becomes so recurrent that I just can't take this movie seriously, like, Michael capturing Laurie and showing her a picture in the cheesiest way possible. Michael in this movie seems more like Jason than the original Michael himself, the disproportionate size and the fact that he has feelings is something totally stupid, everything becomes so exaggerated to the point of not being able to take anything seriously and being extremely tiring to watch. it's really a remake of the 78 original, but soulless, bland, with characters you can't care about and even worse dialogue, rating 4 for this movie is still very high.
I gotta agree with you Savo, the 2007 doesn't get enough love! One of my biggest beefs with the original Halloween is that Michael Myers isn't a character, he's just this unstoppable force. I appreciated Rob Zombie giving him a backstory and getting to see the reason he becomes so evil. For me it makes it scarier and more "realistic". I know some will disagree.
I agree partially, it’s good to build structure for a character by showing some early events, however if you over explain it feels like it sends the wrong message of why the character is why he is. This is all just my opinion and I respect anyone else’s
Also I’m not saying I don’t like these movies. If I truly despised them I wouldn’t watch they’re movies. I do appreciate them I just don’t prefer they’re arc
It was a good idea to flesh out the character I just think he took to long to get to the murder of his sister
it's not bad give to Michael a backstory.
But turn him into a poor devious child it's a bad idea for an evil personification.
for a lot of people all that did was just make him less scary. It just makes people more sympathetic towards him which is kind of lame imo. Halloween 07 is basically a spinoff imo but lacks the fear factor of the original where he’s that mysterious unstoppable force
2018 Michael was vicious and over the top just like RZ Halloween movies. The only difference is they brought back the mystery and boogeyman aspect back to this new trilogy
The horror version of Rocky, I love that!!
Honestly I've never been a fan of the original Halloween movies because I never found it scary. I get bored watching it and always end up looking for something more interesting. I enjoyed Rob Zombie's remake because the back story added a missing element in my case. The remake made Michael scary - the brutality gets your blood pumping & I love it. I will admit I didn't like parts of the second Halloween movie, but he went with his vision.
I love them all. Good, dumb gory fun
Rob Zombies Halloween movies are incredibly underrated the first one just fascinated me in a way Zombie did a great job at having you feel an emotional way about the characters as well they were greatly developed the casting choice was amazing as well the whole red neck thing could have had it’s tweaks but other than that I loved them
I like the Rob Zombie one but I think it waste too much time trying to give Michael a history and motivation when what was so terrifying in the original was that he just seemed like an unstoppable force of nature.
It also followed the mistake of making Laurie Strode his sister instead of a random person that he wanted to kill.
would you rather a straight copy and paste?
You’re opinion in this makes logical sense and I agree on what you said :)
Great job, once again Savo! This is why I like your channel you fight for what you believe in & you're not afraid to speak your brutally honest opinion regardless of what People say or think, whether it's an unpopular opinion or not. And I agree with some of the points you said about The 2007 Rob Zombie Remake of Halloween being scarier and have some great scenes/moments that many people and reviewers didn't give it credit for or overlooked it.
Halloween 2007 is underrated for sure definitely one of my favorite Michael myers dude was brutal
John carpenters Halloween is my all time favourite film and there's nothing with wrong zombies version! I love his Michael and how vicious he is and even more so in the second
So you like hillbilly myers? Jesus
@@michaelmyers457 love the nasty but from what I hear HK might just top it
I feel like all the things they added in Halloween 2018 was fan service. Rather than just wipe away the other sequels they took pieces of each one as call backs for the fans.
I feel what you mean with the retelling of his childhood in the 07 remake but what makes me like it so much is how demented he is as a child. the original depicts him as a dumb ordinary child who is possessed and doesn't even understand or know what he does or did, but in the 07 remake he knows what he is doing and he means it. A kid who is neglected from the beginning and gets pushed more and more until he snaps, and snaps hard. And i really like that, its understandable. I hated the ''possessed kid'' story. its dumb and unrealistic. but yeah, it takes some of the mystery away but in my eyes its worth it for a more understandable telling of why he gets to be the monster he becomes.
I love Halloween (1978) and Halloween (2007) is absolutely underrated. However, i still prefer Halloween 2 (1981) over Halloween 2 (2018). Halloween 2 (2018) didnt impress me at all. I thought it was overrated garbage and Laurie basically became crazy cat lady in it. So yeah, much prefer Halloween 2007 over Halloween 2 (2018)
What would you have done differently?
Then your tastes are severely lacking.
Rob zombie Michael Myers is his own version not a straight copy from the original
I honestly really enjoyed the 2007 film. I remember seeing it the cinema after school with a friend, and I watched a few scenes through my fingers. 🤣 In Halloween 2018, I think making Laurie not his sister anymore takes away his motive. Why the hell would he care about killing some random girl??
He wasn’t. It was the doctor that drove him to Laurie’s house. Also, Michael doesn’t need a motivation. He just kills.
he never went after laurie stupid he just killed anyone he got his hands on
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5:21 Well you would be Scared of Michael Myers if he was In Real Life.
Busta Rhymes comes in and beat his ass….
1. HALLOWEEN (1978)
2. HALLOWEEN II (1981)
3. HALLOWEEN III (1982)
4. HALLOWEEN ENDS (2022)
5. HALLOWEEN KILLS (2021)
6. HALLOWEEN (2018)
7. HALLOWEEN 4 (1981)
8. HALLOWEEN 20 years later (1998)
9. HALLOWEEN 5
10. HALLOWEEN 6
11. HALLOWEEN (2007)
12. HALLOWEEN Resurrection (2002)
13. HALLOWEEN II (2009)
Why are you putting Halloween ends on that list not to mention high up on that list it hasn't even came out yet it doesn't come out till October 14th
@@tristencoon8198I wonder what he thinks of ends now 😂
11. Halloween 6
10. Halloween 2007
9. Halloween 5
8. Halloween H20
7. Halloween 2 2009
6. Halloween Resurrection
5. Halloween 2
4. Halloween 2018
3. Halloween 3
2. Halloween 4
1. Halloween
Man Halloween kills was so bad 🤣
Agreed I was really disappointed
@@DisgustingDiscracw why should that be a shocker the one before it 2018 and the one's before the Rob Zombie one's were in the 90s and 00s were awful the only good one's out of the whole series are the original, Halloween II, Halloween 4, Halloween 5, and the two Rob Zombie Halloweens.
Always enjoyed the 2007 film. But a return to form is what Halloween needed. 2007 was more creative but 2018 was scarier. Michael is a silent killer. There doesn’t need to be any creativity to the story. People aren’t watching for the plot
I’d love to hear what you think of Halloween Kills and especially Ends because that film mostly does it’s own thing without borrowing from any of the others.
I enjoyed them all just a big Halloween fan
Rob zombies Michael Myers was scarier and more brutal
I know right.
that was the entire point with 2018... all of us real fans wanted micheal back not some rob zombie bs
Rob zombies Halloween is the best horror movie ever made it gets way too much hate
Love the part on forced comedy. Why is forced comedy a reoccurring trend nowadays in non-comedy movies? It doesn't add anything to the story, and it releases tension. Halloween 2018 is a great example. If the director removed the comedic elements, the movie would be better.
Halloween 4 is my favorite sequal
I have to say that I came to this video already knowing exactly what it was going to be, but I wanted to watch it anyways. With that being said, I agree. I hate that I agree honestly, because I wanted to love the 2018 remake so much, but it just wasn’t that scary. Furthermore, I do think that it is more entertaining to watch, but Rob Zombie definitely doesn’t get enough credit for trying to do something different and change up the formula. I love both movies, but 07 is surely the superior movie. Thank you for this video🙏🏾
2007 made no sense at all whatsoever the movie isn't about being scary its about giving some characters we will like first of all
@@michaelmyers457 The Rob Zombie Michael Myers is more Scary then all of the other Michael Myers.
i stopped reading once u said scary lol the worst argument anyone can say, it’s a sign ur not a horror fan bc horror fans don’t watch horror for scary bc their desensitised
I hated the fact that they got rid of the brother sister connection. It gave Michael purpose... so now he just chasing after some random girl that got away...
That's why it makes it more scarier though
They got rid of it because having a motivation for killing goes against Michael Myers whole character. Evil doesn’t have a reason.
no he’s not he doesn’t care
Micheal never had a purpose.
the 07 version of Michael Myers is scarier to me
“Scarier” only because he’s bigger. He’s way too human in the 07 version. Michael Myers should be pure evil.
@@gunpuppy3533 Actually, your wrong. The withered appearance of his mask is similar to what somebody would imagine a real life Frankenstein, and someone called The Boogeyman to look like. I'd piss my pants, and be sure there'd be escape from death for me, if I saw The bigger Michael Myers, compared to the 18 Michael Myers.
@@soygarnagan1634 the 07 Michael Myers is more like Jason Vorhees than Michael Myers. A massive mountain boy with mommy issues.
@@gunpuppy3533 SO! Why do you care? The Rob Zombie Michael Myers is more Scary then all of the other Michael Myers.
Imma stop you with h20. H20 is a very good movie and one of the best Halloween films
You on crack
This was an incredibly well done video! Amazing job, and great comparison of the films. To be honest, I am not fond of resurrection AT ALL!
I've been waiting for this for some time now
I love all ov them except resurrection what ever one you grow up with you’ll love.we should be happy there still making them.
The remake was much better than the new trilogy to me
The 2007 one was far better
Nope hallwoeen 2018 is cool
@@noobmasterguy854 DUDE! The Kid can have it's own opinion, All of the Halloween Movies are Amazing.
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I've been a fan of the franchise since '02....I was 12....and Resurrection was the first one I saw and I loved it at the time. 😅 I wanted to watch them all as soon as I could and I did. All of them still entertain me but the first 2 have always been my favorites. I agree there was nothing wrong with making Lori and Michael siblings. I felt the newest one should've at least kept Halloween 2 relevant. As far as Rob Zombie goes...I'll watch them and I do enjoy the back story content he did. My biggest issue with it is how big of a douchebag Dr Loomis was turned into by the second one. He was always my favorite in the series cuz he was always warning everyone they're in danger and that Michael is very much alive and will return....in Zombie's he's just a screaming jerk and just wanting to profit off his story. That's the most annoying change Zombie made in my opinion.
Good points. Sounds similar to what I went through with Halloween 6. I saw that movie with friends in junior high and we had such a fun time watching it. It's one of my favorites just based on nostalgia and how atmospheric it is. But I know as far as the story goes, it's just not a true Halloween tale. I don't mind that the 2018 movie did something new with taking off right after the original. I liked that aspect since the previous two timelines both included being continuations from the 1981 sequel. It's just the 2018 film lacked atmosphere. And you could tell it was made by someone very new to horror. There's so many scenes that should have been edited. Zombie's suffers from poor dialogue but I have to agree with the guy in the video, it was certainly its own thing and it was pretty hard to watch at times due to how intense it was. The ending was far more climactic than it was in the 2018 movie but Michael definitely was an improvement and more in line with the original, which I preferred.
Me quedo con el de 2018.
No solo por que sea mi favorito, sino porque fue el primero que vi, y me encantó lo siniestro y sanguinario que puede ser.
Me encanta esa frialdad con la que mata a las víctimas sin decir palabra alguna.
Luego vi otras versiones y no me gustaron las de poderes o maldiciones, a Michael lo quiero más humano, pero la versión de Rob Zombie aunque me gusta, no es mi favorita porque al final siente empatía por su hermana y después quiere vengarse, en la original ya se mostraba que Michael quería matar a su hermana a toda costa.
Aunque dije que lo de las maldiciones no me gusten, si me encantó el hecho de que sea "La reencarnación del mal" implantada el un humano.
Esas son las cosas que me gustaron, aunque Rob Zombie quiso hacer a Michael más humano, no me convenció del todo.
The biggest problem with Rob Zombie's Halloween is that it led to the batshit crazy Halloween 2
I love all the Halloween movies even Rob zombie Halloween movies and I've never lost interest in them
I appreciate the zombie film but still like 2018 better and the original. I’m not a big fan of knowing the whole backstory I think the not knowing is more eerie and disturbing.
Both films have hits and misses. I agree that Halloween RZ was a great movie for a young audience who needed to re-fear the character Michael Myers after a mess like Resurrection. But RZ makes a fatal mistake and it is to try to explain the character, transforming him not only into the cliche of the American psychopath but also making him a victim himself. Rob Zombie's Michael Myers is a victim in every sense of the word and that easily anyone would think that in a different context he could have been a good person. Which does not make it terrifying in my opinion, rather it hurts. This is the only contribution that Rob Zombie could give because after the childhood of Michael Myers, the film is almost a copy of the original from 78 but with some stupid versions of the other characters, it is a film with the half made by order because they never left that Rob Zombie had total control of the film (in h2 I realized why), it shows that it is not a film made with feeling. The film is pretentious in many moments with unnecessary situations and I think that even though it worked at the time, the errors become more evident over time. H18 could have been a better movie, it is a mix of all the sequels together and I think there are many aspects that can be better, but it has a huge success. It really feels like a Halloween movie, and beyond giving a "new version of the character" it brought to the table the value of the first movie for new generations who had even only seen the two Halloween remakes. And that, my friend, is something that no sequel since H2 has ever accomplished.
I must concur and would also like to add my own thoughts on this subject matter. A couple of things to note about the the remake, original and what the 2018 addition brought to the franchise. 1. His size! While some may suggest Tyler Manes size and height brought an imposing factor to the character I felt as though it did not and rather made him into a stereotypical brutish type character which isn't completely what The Shape is about. In the original he was only 5 ft 10 and his build was average and the character was part human part supernatural. The Shape in a physical form was just a "normal" guy who was an unstoppable force who could appear anywhere at anytime and that's difficult to do when you're 6 ft 8 and have a large build! If anything for me it makes him less scary having him so physically large. 2. The Backstory. While I appreciate the attempt Rob tried to make in explaining the backstory of the character it had one fundamental flaw and that was the attempt at trying to explain it in the first place. One of the key aspects that made the original scary was that you didn't know his backstory other than what we are told through the opening and Dr Loomis' psychoanalysis of the character. For me one way to build better tension and suspense is to have the suspense and information be told through others which can convey fear as opposed to seeing it for yourself which Rob did with The Shape. It takes away the mystique and process of being told something and having it flow through your head instead of seeing it and getting a definitive sight of what is being done. 3. The Violence. Of coarse as with any horror movie there will be violence in some form or another. As much as I am a fan of violence in horror films and viewing the various ways of how people die within these movies, too much and extensive violence becomes less scary and just plain right stupid. In the original and the 2018 version the kills were subtle yet effective in the true form of The Shape and in the way he deals with people. One thing I didn't like about Rob's version was that in Michael's killings he seemed more human than this part human part supernatural force and just straight up brutish which isn't wasn't the Shape is about at all. In his killings he grunts and makes noises and the death scenes are too drawn out with extensive blood and violence which begins to lose it's fear factor and instead you're going "oh not this again". With the original and the 2018 there was less blood in contrast to Zombie's remake and the kills were quick and not drawn out with extensive violence, though they were of coarse violent but within the limits of what The Shape is truly capable of and really captures the characters ways of dealing with people. Excessive violence and blood isn't what makes a horror film contrary to what many may believe, it's a culmination of things such as atmosphere, tension and suspense etc qualities I felt Zombie's remakes did not have.
@@johnnycahill3363 Exactly. Totally Agree.
wouldnt call him a victim persay, he was just crazy. i mean the whole "villans arent born, they are made" thing applys to alot of ppl. and yeah its a cliche i get it, but what would you want from a micheal myers movie? find out hes a demon? no. even the original halloween said that micheal was a crazy kid and grew up to be a phycopath man. RZ just dove deep into that part.
They explained Michael and the way he was in Halloween the curse of Michael Myers with the cult of thorn
@@paramidea6812 sociopaths and psychopaths aren't crazy though they are completely sane and know the consequences of their actions
Psychotics are the crazy people and suffer from psychosis which is a variety of mental disorders that mess with the victims perception of reality like schizophrenia for example
Psychopaths suffer from psychopathy and are born that way because it is psychological and hereditary
Sociopaths suffer from sociopathy and they are made that way from environmental factors such as abuse, bullying, broken home, neglect, etc.
I really like Rob Zombies Halloween movies. I don't think they get the proper respect they should get. Granted the 2nd Halloween by Zombie is not as good, but it's also not as bad as people say.
Ele não conhece o Michael Myers, por isso que os Halloween dele foi uma merda
They don't deserve any respect because they're garbage.
A little heavy on the exposition here (lots of words at a fast pace in the first couple of minutes) but nonetheless a well made video, as usual.
Maybe a little bit of an odd request, but maybe you should make a slasher short film. You’ve been doing videos on classic horror flicks for years and I’d be curious to see what you could put together.
I'm planning one! Just need to find the money and time and it would be a feature!
Great video bro
One thing I hated about the 2018, kills is the stupid scenes where the characters clearly have an opportunity to kill Myers but don't take it. In the 2018, Laurie clearly could have shot Myers repeatedly in the face/head with all her guns. After shooting off part of his hand was an opportunity but no let's go and run and hide in cellar. In kills, Laurie daughter stabs Myers in back with pitchfork, falls face first on the ground with a clear opportunity to take the pitchfork and ram it into the back of his skull but no, let's take my girly foot and step on his head lol. And the mob scene 😆 dont even get me started with that stupidity. Zombies works bc Myers is brutal, scary and more believable.
All very fair criticisms! Very fair.
As a die hard Halloween fan i can't agree with you i mean numbers say it all aswell Rob Zombie's Halloween movies dont even hold a candle towards 1978 or 2018 no way man
2018 Halloween is horrible but I can agree with the original Halloween definitely my favorite but I don't get all the hate for Rob Zombies Halloween it's not that bad I like how they make Michael more intimidating
Would luv to hear ur thoughts on Halloween Kills!
Lol people can’t shoot at all in that movie
I feel like if u cut down on the language in the remake 2007 people would like it a lot more and see what zombie was actually going for
Fair point. 🤷🏻♂️
The problem with robs version is that he has too many obnoxious characters, Michaels Origins are too cliché. And the second half of the movie is just a shot for shot remake of the original Halloween with more gore and nudity added. It’s a guilty pleasure.
halloween 2018 was better to me Michael is old sure but this verson of Michael will always be the best
Ooooh man, hard disagree on Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers not having atmosphere.
It's the only one on the franchise that I own on DvD and the only one I find myself even caring to rewatch anymore. Has a very 90s strobe lights Haunted House like vibe to it and that's the kind of Horror I grew up with.
That one is Erie for sure. But most agree it’s pretty out of whack and all over the place. I think it’s actually the one the general audience knows the least.
@@savocentral6579 I'd say Resurrection is the one that's the least known. Fell right in the middle of 2 defining generations for the character (Halloween 6/H20 and Zombie's remake) so it really didn't have any audience or following to latch onto.
That's the funny thing about that franchise. I personally know die-hard fans for every single one of those films EXCEPT Resurrection. That one only gets embraced in a "so bad, it's good" kinda way like with Batman & Robin or something.
Wow
Michael Myers vs Jason Voorhees. Place your bets!
It depends like Rob Zombies Michael would probably fair well against Jason while the others I don't know about. I like the Halloween franchise more and my favor slasher villain is Michael but I'd take Jason to win
Jason wins
@@tristencoon8198rob zombie michael died of getting shotted by many guns. Jason had the same treatment but he’s still alive
You should make a sly discord or something
cool concept, please do more!
The sister timeline came into play in 2 onward,so to make a alternate ending trilogy that never goes to the hospital or shows him escape was a the perfect niche to just have a alternate angle of getting John Carpenter and JLC back and I understand your fondnoess to zombies film but what he got right in the first 2 acts fails once it becomes the original Halloween sped up for a ending.....had 07 did a totslly diffferent ending love it more......but it just showed me how flawed the whole film was.......the 78 film had 90 min to make the last act work mostly from Laurie's perspective....not rushing her perspective...2018 had some tone issues sure but overall it's the closest a sequel has ever got to the original tone and feel of uncertainty like a great white shark with no motive.....that's Myers to me not ted bundy or gacy style backstory making me feel sympathetic to someone who didnt need that backstory to be scary to start with.
Is this even a question? 2018 & I fw RZ H07 heavy.
Great job on the video.
No point in these videos. There´s only one worth Halloween movie, and that´s John Carpenter´s. Period.
The only good John Carpenter one's are the first five
The original is the only one I really enjoy. I couldn’t get through the Rob Zombie version. I liked the 3rd one for being different.
I skipped so many of these but if the original comes on I have to watch some of it.
i agree dude
2018
Haloween 2018 is way between in my opinion
2007
I haven't seen any of the movies wear should I start?
The very first one which is Halloween 1978 then work your way though it
King Of Evil Ganondorf Dragmire Gotcha. Is it available on Hulu or Netflix?
The first halloween movie 1978
2018 is better and it’s the Michael myers from the original
2018 much better. Rob zombie just strange take on Michael Myers.
But in all the movies thwy. Ould have come up with some medical reason of why he can't die. Something simple and believable.
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Yeah Zombies films were BA to bad I lost them movies, I gotta get em again lol I have all the old ones N I havent seen 2018s....yet.
You’re saying the rob zombie’s halloween remake is piece of sh*t? But i know that halloween are talking about is michael myers in the franchises kills,brutals,horror even more scarier like the other movies. Plus the may sequels of the John Carpenter’s Halloween Movies which is making a Halloween Returns in 2018 is much better than the Rob Zombies’ Halloween Remake in 2007 & 2009. It will ingore the Halloween 4 to 6 horror movies and not featurette by michael myers in Halloween 3 Season Of The Witch. I watched the Original Movie Halloween 1 made the movie film by John Carpenter & playable character of main Antagonist The Shape as Nick Castle. The Ending of halloween 1 the unmasked of michael myers age 23 as Tony Moran who’s played unmasked.
in my opinion Halloween 2007 is a terrible movie, with very bad dialogue and extremely caricatured and poorly made characters, this movie seems to me like a child begging for attention to show how dark and violent it is, and this becomes so recurrent that I just can't take this movie seriously, like, Michael capturing Laurie and showing her a picture in the cheesiest way possible. Michael in this movie seems more like Jason than the original Michael himself, the disproportionate size and the fact that he has feelings is something totally stupid, everything becomes so exaggerated to the point of not being able to take anything seriously and being extremely tiring to watch. it's really a remake of the 78 original, but soulless, bland, with characters you can't care about and even worse dialogue, rating 4 for this movie is still very high.
That's what they say Jill tried to do in Scream 4.
I didn't like Halloween very much until Zombie's
The 07 movie made Michael less mysterious
I liked the 2018 film more