Testing a 1998 Apple Macintosh PowerBook G3

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  • Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
  • This lovely M7109LL/A machine was very kindly donated to LGR recently. 233MHz PowerPC 750 CPU, 32MB PC100 RAM, 4MB of video memory, and a whopping 2GB hard drive. Let's see what it can do!

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  • @LGRBlerbs
    @LGRBlerbs  4 года назад +240

    Seems the power adapters for these were recalled, so that's fun
    www.macworld.com/article/1018310/adapter.html

    • @jorno1994
      @jorno1994 4 года назад +27

      put it in one of those fire proof bags for lipo batteries and call it good enough :)

    • @JohnMiller-mmuldoor
      @JohnMiller-mmuldoor 4 года назад +3

      🤔

    • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
      @JohnSmith-xq1pz 4 года назад +11

      Naturally it has a recall it is a apple product after all 😉

    • @laptop006
      @laptop006 4 года назад +7

      Repeatedly, the iBook UFO chargers were a thing for a while but got recalled too.

    • @Finallybianca
      @Finallybianca 3 года назад +8

      Consider it a space heater not a defect

  • @CodyShell
    @CodyShell 3 года назад +652

    Clint! I was the one who donated you this laptop! Glad to see it go to a new home and getting the attention it rightfully deserves!

  • @kefkafloyd
    @kefkafloyd 4 года назад +131

    This machine is what we call a "Wallstreet," I have one of them in my collection. The hotswap bays originated with the Powerbook 500 as dual battery bays, which you could swap out a PC Card cage for a battery. They improved them a lot since then. These machines had CD-ROMs, batteries, floppies, ZIP, and LS-120 drives that you could swap into the bays. And yeah, the backlights on these screens weren't great back in the day, and age has only made them dimmer.

    • @SuperTed.
      @SuperTed. 4 года назад +8

      Dumass question maybe but Why were they called a wallstreet?

    • @kefkafloyd
      @kefkafloyd 4 года назад +30

      @@SuperTed. Apple products had internal code names until the mid-aughts, Wallstreet is the code name for this model. It was preceded by the Kanga (PowerBook G3 Series) and replaced by the Lombard (PowerBook G3 Bronze Keyboard). Even within the Wallstreets the revision B speedbump versions are named PDQ (Pretty Damn Quick) whose differentiation is having a 66MHz bus speed.

    • @joeconti2396
      @joeconti2396 4 года назад +10

      I must've owned four of these things back in the early 2000's. They were so cheap. Lombard and Pismos to this day are difficult to find at a good price though.

    • @LGRBlerbs
      @LGRBlerbs  4 года назад +33

      More specifically, this is a M7109LL/A, which I believe is a late 1998 PDQ machine :)

    • @donfurioso3566
      @donfurioso3566 4 года назад +2

      Wasn’t it called Pismo ¿

  • @BrokenCircus
    @BrokenCircus 4 года назад +268

    You may have spotted this in the edit, but when you tried to change resolution on Quake, it said "Not enough memory for video mode".

    • @LGRBlerbs
      @LGRBlerbs  4 года назад +104

      Welp, that answers that. Thank you! I wrongly assumed 4MB would be enough to at least _attempt_ running Quake at 256-color XGA resolution, even if it performed badly.

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing 4 года назад +41

      Also fairly accurate. the original 4mb voodoos were designed to tie the resolution to about 640 x 480 IIRC, and we can probably assume whatever passes for an accelerator in this thing is about that ballpark.
      Unfortunately also it's got that early 2000's laptop LCD panel behavior of not scaling up. Run on an external LCD, you should be able to get full screen 640x480 out of it, I guess.

    • @LGRBlerbs
      @LGRBlerbs  4 года назад +45

      @@TheTurnipKing Good point. I think my 3dfx experience is what's throwing me off actually, since I can play Quake at higher resolutions on a Voodoo 1 card no problem. Although mine was a 6MB card now that I think about it, so there'd be a bit more to play with for frame buffering and textures.

    • @92greenz34
      @92greenz34 4 года назад +17

      Interestingly I have a very similar but a bit later, PowerBook G3 mine is the 333mhz the Lombard model with an 8mb rage pro lt. It runs quake very well although there’s actually an issue with the quake Mac soft 1.0 where it doesn’t fully support all of the resolutions you need to install a patch to make it work properly. Once you do that it actually becomes a quite enjoyable way to play the game

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing 4 года назад +13

      @@LGRBlerbs Perhaps I should say that 640 x 480 was the normal default for the voodoo 1 with the Glide API, and since that was about double what you'd realistically be able to get with software rendering, many were happy to leave it at that.

  • @MyMyMicah32
    @MyMyMicah32 4 года назад +36

    This exact model got me interested in old computers. It was the first laptop I ever got to play with as a kid. So many memories flooding back watching this

  • @Poopie420
    @Poopie420 4 года назад +10

    In 1998 I picked up one of these for my CEO boss at my first job from a local Mac shop in NYC. I set it up for him, etc. Was the only time I got to handle it and I was blown away how fast it was. The company paid $3899 for that laptop.

  • @souta95
    @souta95 4 года назад +55

    That machine could probably render the RAVE hardware acceleration of Quake

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 3 года назад +4

      @@slightlyevolved nVidia or not, RAVE works on ATI GPUs. It was the API to use before OpenGL took over. Unreal Tournament for Mac also uses RAVE, and it would be fun to see that running on that PowerBook.

    • @Scioneer
      @Scioneer 3 года назад

      @@desther7975 It will run fine. I have a Clamshell iBook 366mhz with the same amount of vram and a Rage Mobility, likely the same GPU as this Powerbook. It runs UT 99 with RAVE quite well.

    • @desepticon4
      @desepticon4 3 года назад +1

      @@desther7975 UT ran very nicely on the Lombard and Pismo on highest settings so I think the WallStreet could handle it ok.

  • @vatsalgupta4557
    @vatsalgupta4557 3 года назад +17

    BTW,liked the Eye Bee M 😀
    Great work Clint!

  • @snethss
    @snethss 4 года назад +10

    This is my absolutely favorite laptop series if all time. it deserves a full LGR. I'm still getting utility from it, though parts are getting harder to find.

  • @BoyAditya
    @BoyAditya 4 года назад +46

    Yo Clint. Don't forget to upload LGR food... We need that new sandwich videos 😜🤤

  • @domdecosa
    @domdecosa 4 года назад +47

    That laptop should have an ATI chipset that supports RAVE 3D acceleration.

    • @AnonymousFreakYT
      @AnonymousFreakYT 3 года назад +7

      ^^^ "RAVE" was ATI's early 3d accelerator API, much like how Glide was 3dfx's. Since Apple used ATI for a long time in the early 3d era, nearly all Mac games supported RAVE (until Mac OS X made OpenGL standard.) Many *ALSO* supported 3dfx for desktop Macs with add-in Voodoo cards.

    • @domdecosa
      @domdecosa 3 года назад +3

      @@AnonymousFreakYT RAVE was part of QuickDraw 3D, which was made by Apple.

    • @AnonymousFreakYT
      @AnonymousFreakYT 3 года назад

      @@domdecosa D-oh! What's the ATI one I'm thinking of?!

    • @jackedup447
      @jackedup447 3 года назад +1

      @@AnonymousFreakYT ATI's CIF render? Dunno the actual name ive only ever seen it in a few videos.

    • @domdecosa
      @domdecosa 3 года назад +1

      @Alyxx Parke Clint's model (PDQ) has the ATI Rage Pro LT. The later Pismo models had the Rage Pro 128.

  • @rebibotic
    @rebibotic 4 года назад +1

    I have 2 of these, they were top of the line in thier day, only the rich account executives had these. I had to recreate the PRAM battery an make a new one from scratch because I couldnt find one. also if you put in a bigger hard drive the magnetic pull will put the computer in sleep mode and not wake up. it is a cool vintage machine.thanks for the share

  • @bustedbenz
    @bustedbenz 3 года назад +1

    I was 9 in ‘98 and man did I want one of these. It might have been a year or two later when I really got into them because I wanted the Pismo which is a bit newer, but still. The 90’s and early 00’s generation of Macs will always be special to me. Computers were exciting then. They weren’t just slightly tweaked variations on a tired theme... every new generation was really “different”. Our family didn’t choose to spend money on tech upgrades very often but I would go through the Macmall catalog for hours thinking about what I’d get if I could. Thanks for the memory trip.

  • @Richard.Linder
    @Richard.Linder 4 года назад +34

    That sound is surprisingly loud and full, for a laptop.
    Try Quake with 512 x 384 and with "Double Pixels" checked. This is exactly half the width and height of 1024 x 768, so it should scale perfectly and fit that screen's XGA native resolution.
    Also maybe try doing the "Easy" install option and see if it detects and utilises the laptop's 3D capabilities. Or choose "Custom" and check "Quake with 3D Hardware Acceleration". Maybe it supports RAVE. Would love to see how it looks, even if it's just double scaled 512 x 384 in software. That would fill the entire screen with perfect 2:1 integer scaling, and should look really good. :)

    • @crylune
      @crylune Год назад +1

      Even modern MacBooks have such good speakers...

    • @Richard.Linder
      @Richard.Linder Год назад

      @@crylune Yes, they do have really good sound for laptops.

    • @EnjoySynthSounds
      @EnjoySynthSounds Год назад

      Arrghh. Joy! Powermac computing and a brilliantly efficient operating system unlike today's bloated behemoths. I used to play Dark Forces on powermac, a doom style Star Wars game, Quake 2 and others. It's a strange thing- in England full powermac desktops of the G3 era are harder to source with keyboard, monitor, mouse. And don't get me started on sourcing the VGA adaptors. Dang! So expensive. I love the Powermac 6100 Dos but again it's incredibly hard to source in a complete package. I feel Apple messed up going to Os X. They can never replace the genius of these slimline operating systems. My modern iMac needs 8 gig ram for it to run smoothly, but back in the day less than 1 gig could have you in retro heaven. Dang. The only issue for me was the ADB port, which really was useless. Macintosh Garden here we come ;)

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 3 года назад +21

    I ordered the Quake vinyl but got sent the vinyl for The Social Network.
    Still waiting to hear from their store support...

  • @JohnMiller-mmuldoor
    @JohnMiller-mmuldoor 4 года назад +11

    Gotta love the “booooooooong!” Boot chime. Much feels

  • @rawstarmusic
    @rawstarmusic 3 года назад +2

    I had one of these babies. 10 years from 1997 to 2007 when the light was weak. 6 GB HD music production, lot’s of CD’s. Software Cubase 3.5

  • @ZONEsama
    @ZONEsama 3 года назад +141

    I was able to install Rhapsody on one of these as they are from that era where Apple was starting to ship out developer previews of Rhapsody & OS X. Might be a fun idea for you!

    • @nonsensicalfox
      @nonsensicalfox 3 года назад +24

      Wow I didn't expect you to be here, but that's pretty neat

    • @Alf_Pacino
      @Alf_Pacino 3 года назад +12

      LGR now understands he is more famous than he thought he was

    • @Gadgetman1989
      @Gadgetman1989 3 года назад +3

      Glad to see you here 😊

    • @Pheonixco
      @Pheonixco 3 года назад +13

      Oh the people you'll see on LGR.

    • @eccremocarpusscaber5159
      @eccremocarpusscaber5159 3 года назад +2

      ZONE TOONS if it’s the model I had, which I think it is, even then it was too low in power to run it.

  • @PriestsandParamedics
    @PriestsandParamedics 4 года назад +51

    The reason it wouldn't display in full screen at the higher resolution is because it says at 14:58 "Not enough memory for video mode".

    • @unnamedchannel1237
      @unnamedchannel1237 4 года назад +7

      He should just plug in a USB then instant memory to save to

    • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
      @JohnSmith-xq1pz 4 года назад +2

      @@unnamedchannel1237
      🤣🤣🤣
      I thought that was a PC only life hack?

    • @JohnSmith-xq1pz
      @JohnSmith-xq1pz 3 года назад

      @@blitzwing1 🤣🤣🤣

    • @desepticon4
      @desepticon4 3 года назад

      Back then you had to manually allocate extra memory to it from the "Get Info..." panel. This laptop should have no problem running quake (or QIII Arena for that matter.)

  • @saimanhussaini2010
    @saimanhussaini2010 8 месяцев назад

    Wow! I didn’t have vintage laptops like this before, the MacBook Air 2013 was the very first laptop I got to store documents and play games and do my homework on it. So many memories flooding back watching this

  • @little_forest
    @little_forest 4 года назад +1

    Well, here is as good a place as any to mention it: I was watching some very old videos of LGR these days and it was quite nostalgic to hear Clint say things like „So, should you buy this old computer? The beard says yes!“ or „Woopdeedoo for nerdiness.“ ;)
    Not complaining about the professionalism of LGR nowadays, but still... nostalgia... and the progress of time, I guess... :)

  • @QUANTUMJOKER
    @QUANTUMJOKER 4 года назад +3

    Apple definitely bundled games with their Macs in the nineties and early 2000s.
    My family's grey iMac and my various Powerbooks and iBooks all came pre-installed with Nanosaur, Bugdom and Cro-Mag Rally, with developer Pangea Software being a long-time Apple partner and Mac game developer.
    You can actually download several of Pangea's Mac OS games for free from Pangea's website. If you haven't played Bugdom yet, I strongly recommend it, as it's an endlessly imaginative, charming action-adventure and an iconic game for the Mac platform.
    Our LC 575, which was our first computer, came pre-installed with classics such as Sim City 2000, Spectre Challenger, Super Maze Wars and Spin Doctor. My Nana's Performa came with these games as well, but also had Glider Pro and ShadowWraith, which is an awesome top-down cyberpunk-themed arcade shooter.
    Our eMac came pre-installed with Deimos Rising (developed by Ambrosia Softworks, which was also a long-time Mac game developer) and - oddly enough - Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4.

    • @stillnotscaredofspiders
      @stillnotscaredofspiders 3 года назад

      Ah, Super Maze Wars and Spin Doctor. I wish they did Mac OS 8 emulators like DOSBox.

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 3 года назад

      StillNotScaredOfSpiders MACE and Executor are the closest, I’d say. Problem is, Executor is pretty much abandoned, and MACE is closed-source and VERY early in development.

    • @stillnotscaredofspiders
      @stillnotscaredofspiders 3 года назад

      @@MaddTheSane The ones I've tried so far are SheepShaver and Basilisk, and both are an absolute pain to get working on a Windows system.

    • @MaddTheSane
      @MaddTheSane 3 года назад

      @@stillnotscaredofspiders SheepShaver and Basilisk II are difficult to get working on _any_ OS.

  • @lewislauricella1416
    @lewislauricella1416 2 года назад

    I just picked a 12.1 inch Mainstreet G3 PowerBook out of my works eWaste dumpster Yesterday ( had been sitting out in rain, hail and +30°c weather over the Christmas break), and against all odds, it booted first try (after a good teardown and clean that is). Downgraded from 10.2 to 9.2.2, and it's working unbelievably well - So glad to have saved it from landfill 👍

  • @StevenSmyth
    @StevenSmyth 4 года назад +1

    PowerBook WallStreet, 2nd generation G3. The first gen was housed in a 3400 case, this was part of the new design language at Apple. You don’t have enough VRAM to run Quake at 1024x768, but I think it’ll run in 800x600 full screen. This Mac has both S-Video and VGA out on video mirroring, so you should be able to do your own capture of Yoot Tower and it will run no problem. I have a copy and it runs very well on my Strawberry iMac (333) and my Beige G3 Desktop (266). Apple says you can only put 192 MB of RAM in these, unofficially, you can install 512 no problem. Nice pickup.

  • @Nymunariya
    @Nymunariya 4 года назад +1

    Apple used to bundle games and software with their macs. My 6500 (1997) came with Descent II and Mechwarrior 2. Both had little sticker art on the cds that there were supercharged for the 6500!

  • @kathrynradonich3982
    @kathrynradonich3982 4 года назад +2

    I love this design so much I miss my PowerBook pismo

  • @connorPiper0
    @connorPiper0 3 года назад +4

    As a kid I loved playing with KidPix. It was an art software that included some pretty strange sound effects. I know it was often free through Macintosh magazines in the 90s.

    • @Jagerbomber
      @Jagerbomber 3 года назад

      Yup, our school had KidPix and SimTower.... until they banned SimTower after 9/11 due to the bomb threat in it. They threw out the iMacs after 1 year anyways.

  • @porkwilliam
    @porkwilliam 4 года назад +1

    I bought an Apple PowerBook G3 Pismo for £75 ($96) from eBay last week. Absolutely immaculate condition and fully working. I wanted one back in 2000 but couldn’t afford it at the time, so I’m so glad that after 20 years, I finally get to own one! These were outstanding laptops for the time, and everything (ram, processor, hard drive) except for the video card were upgradeable. I think the Pismo can run OSX Tiger, but I’m sticking with OS 9.2.2; brings back memories!

  • @NotJustBikes
    @NotJustBikes 4 года назад +13

    This definitely brings back memories! I had one of these "Wallstreet" laptops, the first Mac I ever bought (but I bought it used in 2000).
    I used this to design rave flyers and do all sorts of other fun Photoshop stuff. I also remember installing the first early betas of OS X on this machine. It was also the last Apple laptop I ever bought that didn't have a tonne of hardware issues that made me switch back to PCs.
    This was either the last, or one of the last, to have the Apple logo "upside down" when it's open.
    Anyhow, these were really great machines. And I believe the screen brightness issue you were having was related to age, because I rmemeber the screen being brighter than most other laptops at the time.

    • @desther7975
      @desther7975 3 года назад +1

      I took one of these old things with me when I studied abroad... in 2008! I ended up buying an iBook while I was there and I still have both machines hanging around. Since I bought the iBook overseas, it has a foreign keyboard!

    • @erikt211
      @erikt211 Год назад

      What program did you use to design the rave posters? I was a DJ at the time and always wondered what people were using to make those cool 3D looking designs!

    • @kinghock
      @kinghock Месяц назад

      I've owned four Apple laptops since 2008, must say the only one that gave me trouble was the polycarbonate White MacBook, that was very flimsy. Any of the unibody aluminium MacBook Pro's (have had a 13" and 2x 15"s) have been very solid and reliable.

  • @AlexanderSiracusa
    @AlexanderSiracusa 3 года назад

    I just got the exact same PowerBook G3 (a base model PDQ series) running OS 8.6 a couple of weeks ago. I find that it’s a good machine for transferring old Mac stuff to newer Macs.
    And I love how easy it is to take apart. Remove the optical drive/superdrive/battery/ and pull open the latches. The keyboard pops up and it can just be moved out of the way (but mind the ribbon cable). Get a screwdriver and remove the shield covering everything and, well, everything’s there.

  • @o_o-_-8639
    @o_o-_-8639 4 года назад +9

    It’s been a while that you didn’t review a Mac.
    Lovely ☺️

  • @livvy94
    @livvy94 4 года назад +7

    My dad had one of these for his job at the local library, it was one of the first computers I ever used. Lots of memories of dialing into the library's collection of useful links, going to PBS Kids' website for the ZOOM community (anyone remember that?) and Cyberchase, and playing that crappy Magic School Bus shockwave game where you're driving around a map and it's totally not pacman 😂
    EDIT: Oh, and going to Apple's website and checking out the brand-new QuickTime VR panoramas of various famous locations!

    • @scruffythejanitor1969
      @scruffythejanitor1969 4 года назад +1

      Believe it or not, Cyberchase is still being made.

    • @SimonQuigley
      @SimonQuigley 3 года назад +1

      @@scruffythejanitor1969 I had completely forgotten about cyberchase, and I don't remember hearing about it since about 1995

    • @xsychoreese9877
      @xsychoreese9877 3 года назад +1

      cyberchase premiered in 2002

    • @desepticon4
      @desepticon4 3 года назад

      Quicktime VR was an amazing tech. I had the Encarta CD-ROM, and would spend hours looking at all the different locations.

  • @Ryodakun
    @Ryodakun 3 года назад +41

    LGR and Druaga1 had a baby, and out came LGR Blerbs.

    • @Damaniel3
      @Damaniel3 3 года назад +18

      "Hey smokers, LGR here..."

    • @thepirategamerboy12
      @thepirategamerboy12 3 года назад +5

      LGR Blerbs actually kinda reminds me of some of his older main channel videos, and that's not a bad thing at all.

  • @Vlad-1986
    @Vlad-1986 3 года назад

    I got the same laptop! some of your questions answered
    -That one is a Wallstreet G3
    -I have the same washed out screen, so unless we got the same problems it is just a bit of a crappy screen.
    -It does support "tap to click", if you don't have the option under mouse options, you can just install standard 8.6
    -It has some sort of Radeon graphics

  • @MaxOakland
    @MaxOakland 3 года назад +2

    I love the way these look. They’re gorgeous

  • @guspaz
    @guspaz 3 года назад +5

    They're quite upgradable, these things. CPU can go up to a G4, RAM can go up to 512MB, HDD can be replaced with an SSD. Sadly there doesn't seem to be an upgrade option for the videocard.

  • @julien2983
    @julien2983 3 года назад +4

    This takes me back to highschool playing Bugdom, Nanosaur, and Cro-mag Racing.

    • @connors3356
      @connors3356 3 года назад

      Julien i loved cro mag racing! No one ever talks about how fun that game was

    • @desepticon4
      @desepticon4 3 года назад

      My highscool was all about Reckless Drivin' (and Kaleidescope themes)

  • @CaveyMoth
    @CaveyMoth 4 года назад +73

    Oh, yeah, playing Quake with just the keyboard like an OG.
    Lol, Jazz Jackrabbit is one of your "fur-vorites." Of course.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 3 года назад +3

      Quake was designed for mouse input. Gamers didn't know how to use mice in games yet, though. (That and mice were unreliable and always skipping around).

    • @NoobixCube
      @NoobixCube 3 года назад +4

      Richard Smith Even Doom was designed with mouse input in mind. Just they hadn’t worked out, then, that we only wanted to look and turn with the mouse, not move with it. If you watch any of the demos play back in a vanilla compatible source port, like Chocolate, you can definitely see the variable turn speed and fine grained motion only possible with a mouse.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 3 года назад +1

      @@NoobixCube Vertical mouse look was definitely not 'a thing' yet, with 'mouse look' moved to a button you had to hold. That can be seen with the perspective abnormalities if you modify the game to force mouse look always on.

    • @NoobixCube
      @NoobixCube 3 года назад +1

      Richard Smith I assume you mean in Quake when you say that, because vertical aiming isn’t something that can be done in vanilla Doom at all. The game compensates for you if you’re in line horizontally and far enough back. Doom looks 3D, but it’s impossible for things to overlap in the vanilla game. I meant turning horizontally with the mouse was part of the originally intended control scheme, but the way mouse input works in Doom, forward and backward movement of the mouse moves the player forward and backward, too.

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 3 года назад

      @@NoobixCube Actually I think I am thinking of Duke3d now that I really think about it. Getting it all mixed up :) The 'fake 3d' a lot of the early first person shooters did, however, was subject to perspective distortion when looking up and down though.
      That game also did the up/down aiming for you, but you could still look up and down, but it was never intended for you to move and look up and down at the same time. Doing this will make you go cross eyed on the original game.

  • @camotech1314
    @camotech1314 Год назад

    Never ever owned a Macintosh, so these videos are amazing thank you!!

  • @wasteddesign1396
    @wasteddesign1396 4 года назад +1

    I have to second the comment you responded to on the Ars thing about your videos being nicely calming. Thanks!

  • @twocvbloke
    @twocvbloke 3 года назад +12

    "Proto-Siri", just as useful as ever, guess it runs in the family... :P

  • @JoseYuri
    @JoseYuri 2 года назад +1

    I drooled over this computer after seeing in on Sex and The City with the glowing logo! This is still a beautiful device! I hope they bring it back - an updated design would easily fit into Apple's design family this decade.

  • @MudPuppit
    @MudPuppit 4 года назад +26

    As for Macintosh software bundles, yes! There was lots. Super maze wars, descent, Eric's solitaire, casualty kid, peter pan and lemmings if u where lucky! Soo many good memories, be sure to check out Macintosh Garden as well :v

    • @TwoToTheSix
      @TwoToTheSix 3 года назад +3

      I remember the Performa (probably a few years before this) we had when I was a kid came with a big plastic book/wallet thing full of CD-ROM games and art programs. I still remember the distinct smell of that wallet, and the feeling of peeling its pages apart to get the Kid Pix CD out

    • @MudPuppit
      @MudPuppit 3 года назад +1

      @@TwoToTheSix yes, yes and yes! Other games to mention. Crystal Caliburn pinball, marathon trilogy, spectre challenge, oxyd and spin doctor. Bonus's: prime target and damage incorporated.

  • @PashPaw
    @PashPaw 3 года назад +3

    It's Happy Mac time!
    Also: That PowerBook G3 is a very early one. It still has the Rainbow Apple. Since you have a MBP according to your statements, use Mactracker to determine the exact model. And my iMacs came with Bugdom!

  • @azershotgun
    @azershotgun 3 года назад +6

    This is quality content, definitely should be on main channel.

  • @darrennorniron
    @darrennorniron 4 года назад +4

    Hey Clint. Love your work!

  • @EriolGaurhoth
    @EriolGaurhoth Год назад

    It's fun watching the absolute master of everything Windows and DOS amused by the OS 8 Control Strip. Classic macs are great to use; I still use my G3 Pismo with some regularity for my retro fix.

  • @FenrirTheGray
    @FenrirTheGray 4 года назад +17

    *_I see Jazz Jackrabbit, I press the Like button._*

  • @reedreinfeld3737
    @reedreinfeld3737 3 года назад

    This is a 1998 Macintosh PowerBook G3 - Wallstreet model. Both bays are hot swappable and can run with two batteries. The floppy drive (Or anything that fits the form factor) can also be used on the left bay. I had the 12.1’ passive matrix model (courtesy of my high school)…
    The power supply that came with that model was actually recalled due to fire issues...

  • @wdavid4
    @wdavid4 3 года назад

    Came for the old tech, but then I saw that copy of Sentinel Worlds I in the background... oh man, I loved that game. Also loved how presumptuous it was to put a "I" in the title.

  • @Ralph-yn3gr
    @Ralph-yn3gr 4 года назад +7

    I wish laptop manufacturers had taken those swappable bays further and created swappable processor and graphics modules so we could upgrade them. A laptop like that would be a real desktop killer.
    Also, I'm sure you know this by now, but just in case I think that thing has some variant of the ATI Rage II in there (holy moly there are so many different versions of that thing. it's like the P-40 of graphics cards).

    • @pedrofelck
      @pedrofelck 4 года назад

      Kinda difficult to put a GPU, memory, heatsink, fan and + in a swappable card.

    • @Alexlfm
      @Alexlfm 3 года назад +1

      Upgrades were already possible with this generation of PowerBooks as you could actually swap the processor out fairly easily (it was on a daughter board) and with the sonnet cards one could even upgrade it to a G4 500 (although OSX support was spotty with those). Out of all the laptops made at this time this was one, if not the, most upgradable all things considered.
      Post G4/PIII I suspect the reason these types of upgrades went away were heat and power draw of newer chips along with more significant bus changes and integration of systems onto the chips. Things just started moving too fast.

    • @Ralph-yn3gr
      @Ralph-yn3gr 3 года назад

      @@pedrofelck You may be correct (I'm no expert), but it's not impossible. It's effectively what graphics cards for desktops already are, just in a different form factor, and if there was a standardized layout (sort of like PCMCIA) card manufacturers wouldn't have to worry about modules not fitting in certain machines and companies could design their laptop cases accordingly. It wouldn't work for all laptops like ultra-thin notebooks, tablets, or low cost ones since it'd probably be more expensive to implement, but if upgrading the GPU in the future is a selling point you're probably getting a bigger, more expensive gaming-type laptop anyways. (It would also make replacing dying fans easier, like the one in my laptop that sounds like an asthmatic jet engine)
      Come to think of it, I'm somewhat surprised Apple hasn't done that with the iMac. It would allow them to make extra money from people, and it would still give them a new planned obsolescence option, since they could change the interface and force people to buy a new iMac after a while.

    • @JuffoWup78
      @JuffoWup78 3 года назад +1

      That actually kind of happened at least for a short time. Alienware used to sell laptops that had removeable gpu modules that you could swap in new ones as upgrade later on. I don't know how much of it was supported, but they did have it. This was before they got bought by dell.

    • @Ralph-yn3gr
      @Ralph-yn3gr 3 года назад

      @@JuffoWup78 Really? Huh. I wonder why it didn't catch on. I should look into those.

  • @monosagitario
    @monosagitario 3 года назад

    This was the first Powerbook that you can work in multimedia field. I have mine still working with the apple power adapter replacement.

  • @ThatConfused1
    @ThatConfused1 3 года назад

    I just like how the preview video for this on the list is nothing but you cleaning the keyboard and screen over and over again.

  • @hafkensite
    @hafkensite 4 года назад +8

    At 14:58 it says 'Not enough memory for video mode', I guess it cant do 1024x768.

  • @Cash0991
    @Cash0991 3 года назад +8

    When you right click every time but then realize the macbooks only have 1 click.

  • @christurcotte4035
    @christurcotte4035 3 года назад

    Picked up a 1999 g3 clamshell from the school I work at with the yoyo charger and it runs like a dream.

  • @Dukefazon
    @Dukefazon 4 года назад +2

    10:21 - YES! I got the vinyl ordered, I saw your tweet about it. Later I saw John Romero tweeting it was sold out 2 hours later. I have all the main albums on CD but I'd love to have them on vinyl, I love NIN.

  • @savagemadman2054
    @savagemadman2054 3 года назад

    It's so sleek looking. I've never owned or even used a Powerbook G3, but always wanted one. I also regret that I gave away my beige Powermac G3 tower ~12 years ago.
    From the early days of Steve Job's return to Apple, long before the reigns were handed to the corporate accountants who don't really seem to care about anything other than money. Apple's computers were still generally user upgradeable until about ~2012, one model year after Apple's current regime took power.

  • @Exelius
    @Exelius 3 года назад

    I had a PowerBook G3 WallStreet when I was in college, very nice machine

  • @cwaldrip
    @cwaldrip 3 года назад

    The PB3400 and the PBG3 were good little machines. I fondly remember mine...

  • @YouWillBe322
    @YouWillBe322 3 месяца назад

    It was so much more cool than the Windows machines back then. I don`t know why, but it gave you privacy or the feeling of having one. I still have my PISMO and waiting on parts to have it run again.

  • @munnsie100
    @munnsie100 3 года назад

    What a great Wallstreet you have there! I was given one by a school friend’s parents when I was about 10 years old, he worked for a school and it was his old work laptop. I remember he also had a //e Platinum (with colour monitor), packed back into their original boxes in his garage.

  • @connors3356
    @connors3356 3 года назад

    I remember these being referred to as the blackbird powerbook. My dad used this exact model of laptop while he was a graphic designer, I don’t remember him using it, since it was upgraded to a powermac g4 sawtooth by the time i was old enough to write to memory. But i found this computer in storage, and he mentioned how nice it was compared to other laptops at the time. He always spoke of fond memories playing quake after work. I’ll always love macs- just upgraded my mac pro to dual radeon rx 580s. I’m excited for what the switch to ARM processors will bring.

  • @mortenborg
    @mortenborg 11 месяцев назад

    I had one of those, a great machine! And back then all Apple laptops had easily replaceable batteries - so Apple actually know how to do it...

  • @TopHatJackStudios
    @TopHatJackStudios 3 года назад

    Oh, that startup ding brings back such memories. My first "modern" computer was a friend's Mac. I was so confused the first time I used a Windows machine.

    • @SimonQuigley
      @SimonQuigley 3 года назад

      Memories from 1984? :-) I was given a macbook to use when I started a new job back in 2012, and found it ridiculous that it still had that sound on it.
      The macbook didn't last long, they are terrible for trying to run Linux on.

    • @TopHatJackStudios
      @TopHatJackStudios 3 года назад

      @@SimonQuigley Well, my specific memories are from the late 90's, but I hear that sound has been a Mac staple for some time.
      Also, always nice to meet a fellow Linux aficionado.!

  • @ReverendLinc
    @ReverendLinc 3 года назад

    That is a G3 Wallstreet. Great little laptops the were! Good looking machines.

  • @TanaraKuranov
    @TanaraKuranov 3 года назад

    I used to use a similar model back in the day, but it was the Pismo model, so faster, but still in the same family. (Not my very first computer of my own, that was an old SE/30) Used the poor thing until the hinges were giving out and parts inside were dying. I miss those hotswap bays. At home? Plug in a CD and floppy drive. On the go? Slap in two batteries. That's some hardcore nostalgia, takes me back.

  • @kladewilson598
    @kladewilson598 3 года назад

    That friggin Mac power up sound is awesome

  • @joeblow5214
    @joeblow5214 3 года назад

    Man that OS splash screen takes me back. My elementary school had one Mac and two Win98 machines and the Mac was the only one with SimCity 2000 on it so during recess it became my Mac lol.

  • @Evgenii_Fedorovskii
    @Evgenii_Fedorovskii 2 года назад +1

    IT'S INCREDIBLE! This is the speed in Quake on a 98-year-old processor! P2 233 Klamath could not even dream of such a speed even in 640x480, but here you can play on Apple in 1024x768 !!!
    ...
    Although if I found out the price of this laptop in those years, I probably would understand why everything is so good =D

  • @CryMoar_
    @CryMoar_ 3 года назад

    oh man hearing JJ2 again...!

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b 4 года назад +1

    Takes me back to the good old days of Mac users boasting about their much better RISC processors. I feel so old.

    • @RamiKattan
      @RamiKattan 4 года назад +1

      Apple is going back to risc with Apple Silicon and ARM

  • @jessepatterson8897
    @jessepatterson8897 3 года назад

    that is a "wallstreet" Powerbook G3, easily one of apple's best early laptops until the pismo went all thin. I had one i think it was 233mhz. that laptop i had when i started at tekserve. Congrats. It's a fun computer. my fav is a 540c i got from a client years back.

  • @rickkarrer8370
    @rickkarrer8370 3 года назад +1

    Apple did bundle games, and even 3rd party apps with their computers. However, if I'm remembering right, they didn't do it on some business level configurations.

  • @squid11160
    @squid11160 4 года назад +2

    Holy shit, had no idea about the Q1 vinyl. Ordered 2 for myself and my friend. Thank you!

    • @NathanChisholm041
      @NathanChisholm041 3 года назад

      He did a video on it!

    • @mrb692
      @mrb692 3 года назад

      NATH C I thought that was a DOOM bootleg vinyl and not Quake? Or did he cover more game vinyl that I missed?

  • @FrontSideBus
    @FrontSideBus 4 года назад +3

    Just the thing to watch while I format a 30gb 15k IBM scuzzi drive in preparation for a fresh install of Win98SE on it...

  • @BilisNegra
    @BilisNegra 3 года назад

    50K views in like 19-20 hours? Not shabby for a "little insignificant" side-channel at all! Would like to see that happen with the LGR Foods one, which I dearly wish you have not abandoned.

  • @DeadBaron
    @DeadBaron 15 дней назад

    I find it interesting how even going back to the early System versions, Mac OS was so similar for decades. I restored a Macintosh Plus recently and using 6.0.8 feels so similar to OS 9 and even the first OS X, all they did was add the dock.

  • @AureliusR
    @AureliusR 3 года назад +1

    1998, would definitely have used CFL backlighting, and those definitely fade with age. LED upgrade or even a new CFL replacement would make a huge difference.

  • @adamweb
    @adamweb 3 года назад

    Dude I thought those white specs were on my monitor and it was freaking me out when you finally got them!

  • @arladds
    @arladds 3 года назад

    It's really great seeing this - I grew up using Macs of this era (my Dad worked in publishing), and it's really interesting to see someone "new" to the classic Mac OS system using it and being like "What's this for?" the same way I was 25-ish years ago!
    Btw the recalled adaptors were just replaced with iBook yoyo-style ones - they certainly used to be super easy to find on eBay.

  • @kevwang0712
    @kevwang0712 4 года назад +1

    Interesting to see that the box specifically advertised the CPU as a RISC processor. With Apple now transitioning back to RISC architecture with ARM processors, I'm curious to see if they're going to promote this fact again in their marketing.

  • @WalmartMustacheMan
    @WalmartMustacheMan 3 года назад

    So there are a few versions of the g3, the first is the PowerBook G3 Kanga/ PowerBook 3500(this was the worlds fastest laptop for a few months) it had a 250MHz G3 on a 50MHz Bus, it could go up to 160MB of Ram. This are extremely rare and in my opinion are the coolest PowerBooks ever, its essentially a PowerBook 3400 with a G3. Then there is the WallStreet which is what you own, it was completely redesigned and imchanged everything, it has a 233mhz G3 on a 65mhz bus and could go up to a gig of ram, then the wallstreet pdq which only has minor differences, then the Lombard which added the bronze keyboard, increased specs and changed the hot swappable bays. Then the final one, the Pismo, this has a 500mhz g3(there were slower models), this also went up to a gig of ram but was a much faster machine. And then the G4 Titanium was released

  • @da_homunculus
    @da_homunculus 3 года назад

    Awesome to see this, thanks! First computer I ever played around on was my dad's PowerBook G3 500 Pismo. Translucent keyboard, upgraded to OS 9, good stuff.

  • @desther7975
    @desther7975 3 года назад +2

    Play some classic Marathon on there! That and A-10 Attack! from Parsoft were my 90s Mac games of choice. This machine should also be able to run Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 if you want to give them a try. Definitely use RAVE hardware acceleration rather than software whenever a game offers that. Also consider upgrading the OS - you could run anything up to Mac OS 9.2.2 and even early releases of Mac OS X. The cool part, if you do want to put OS X on it, is that it will dual boot, and you can use Classic in OS X to run OS 9 in a virtualized form that will run most software just fine.
    OH, and if you really want to do something cool with it, install Connectix Virtual Game Station and try some Playstation games on it! You could also emulate a PC using Insignia Solutions SoftWindows or Connectix Virtual PC.
    A great source of Mac "abandonware" is Macintosh Garden (.org).

  • @iCarlyfan4534
    @iCarlyfan4534 3 года назад

    Im so glad you made this channel, I love these laid back type videos

  • @MedievalFolkDance
    @MedievalFolkDance 3 года назад

    Ahhh, the G3. The one and only nail that was needed to seal touchpad cursors in a coffin forever.

  • @EriolGaurhoth
    @EriolGaurhoth Год назад

    I'm sure someone else has said this by now, but RAVE is 3D acceleration for ATI on Mac, so it definitely runs Quake smoother on this model. The only downside is that I don't think it goes beyond 640x480 in accelerated mode whereas software gets you better resolutions.
    Also, to answer your final question several years late: Apple did bundle in one of the Tomb Raiders and MDK, I believe with original iMac purchases.

  • @pills-
    @pills- 3 года назад

    I now know more about the settings for Macintosh Quake than anything in know about the Powerbook G3 :D

  • @RGInquisitor
    @RGInquisitor 4 года назад +1

    Oh man! Seeing that Project Eden box in the background brings backs many memories! It was one of my first ever PS2 games besides MGS2, Kinetica and MX vs ATV.

    • @HannahFortalezza
      @HannahFortalezza 3 года назад

      Such a good game! The puzzles were fantastic

    • @RGInquisitor
      @RGInquisitor 3 года назад

      @@HannahFortalezza Yes it was! It was frustrating for me at first because it was such a long game and I didn't have a memory card at that time, so turning off the Ps2 or swapping games meant I had to start over..

    • @HannahFortalezza
      @HannahFortalezza 3 года назад +1

      @@RGInquisitor PC for me so i didn't have such memory issues!

  • @ahandsomefridge
    @ahandsomefridge 4 года назад +1

    12:25 Looks like you created your own industrial soundtrack right there

  • @ActionRetro
    @ActionRetro 4 года назад

    Now THAT'S a heckin' purdy machine!

  • @MarkyShaw
    @MarkyShaw 3 года назад

    Yea buddy. Been occasionally perusing the NIN store for the better part of the past 2 years or so waiting for them to stock that Quake vinyl. Was delighted to finally have them take my money. Here's hoping it arrives OK. I hear it comes with some goodies.

  • @21dazzer
    @21dazzer 3 года назад

    Had one of these. WAY ahead of its time - the hot-swap design is unsurpassed even now.

  • @NickJaime
    @NickJaime 3 года назад

    Lol the moment you said Risk processing i was brought back to the 90's and the movie Hacker's came to mind.

  • @yussafmalik7712
    @yussafmalik7712 4 года назад +7

    Quake 1 only game I ever completed. In my opinion best game ever made.

    • @DaRealKing303
      @DaRealKing303 4 года назад +1

      Just beat it a few months ago, what a GREAT game!

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 года назад

      You should try it in VR!

  • @YakAlmighty
    @YakAlmighty 3 года назад

    I am so jealous of the jazz jackrabbit box in the back

  • @z3r0slugfm
    @z3r0slugfm 3 года назад

    Good stuff. I missed out on the PowerBook G3’s but I have fond memories of working on my two G4’s back in the early 2000s.

  • @salat128
    @salat128 3 года назад +31

    That screen has faster response times than my 2019 Thinkpad..

    • @gllwsclbrtr
      @gllwsclbrtr 3 года назад +4

      Not that anybody but be cares but I think Thinkpads are cool

    • @DrymouthCWW
      @DrymouthCWW 3 года назад +5

      @@gllwsclbrtr butt bee

    • @gllwsclbrtr
      @gllwsclbrtr 3 года назад

      @@DrymouthCWW ?

  • @dos4gwexe
    @dos4gwexe 4 года назад

    Wow, Wasteland in a sealed box! I just searched and found you did a review of the game all the way back in 2013, lol. That was the most important game in my life until Doom came along.