Your assessment of the Passport is spot on, David. We had a '16 Pilot Touring that we purchased in August of 2015. It was a fabulous vehicle, probably the best I've owned in what is now 55 years of purchasing new vehicles. We needed the room to haul grandkids & the 7 passenger Pilot worked well for us. When we decided it was time to trade 6 years later, we no longer needed a 7 passenger vehicle, but wanted to stay with roughly the same hauling capacity. The only SUV we even considered at the time was a new Passport. No one else had anything comparable. Our '21 Passport Elite is a fantastic SUV. It is essentially identical to the Pilot, but 6" shorter with more luggage space behind the rear seats than the Pilot & nearly as much luggage room with the rear seats folded down. It surpasses the qualities of our Pilot and has been a great stablemate to our '15 Subaru Forester Touring, (another great little SUV) In July this year we gave our Forester to one of our daughters & bought a new '23 RAV4 Limited Hybrid. My goodness, what a fantastic vehicle. I truly believe we now own 2 of the finest vehicles in our price category that money can buy. You mentioned that the new Pilot is a better buy than the Passport. That may well be, IF you need to haul more than 5 people. However, the Passport still fills a need that no one else offers. I wish Toyota would follow suit now that they have the Grand Highlander, they should remake the Highlander into a 5 passenger vehicle to compete with the Passport. If they would do that & offer a true off road variant, they would dominate the market.
I own a 2022 passport and a 2020 highlander. Honestly, the big difference is the passport has a stiff ride and handles like a truck. The highlander drives like a car. But, I love both of them.
I have a Passport, but three things: One, I'm single, so I don't need or even want the extra seats nor video players, nor back cabin voice. Two: I did want the J35 engine, because it's legendary and probably the last iVTEC V6 (you can keep ur turbos thx). Three I live in Canada in a snowbelt, and the iVTM4 with quality snow tires is sublime in the snow. Unless you try it in snow +asphalt you may not truly understand the strengths of the Passport.
Just bought a new 2023 Passport EX-L and my experience has been very similar to your review. I love the new look and feel and as a former BMW X5(2018) owner, I'd honestly have to say that I'm losing almost NOTHING in features and comfort with this new Passport. It's a great value and I'm almost kicking myself for not making the switch sooner!
With a 2020 Ridgeline I agree with Dave, It's a little out of date maybe but is just about exactly what we needed, And a very good driving Vehicle, You forgot to mention the V6 most of us like over turbo fours. 🇺🇸👍
I miss my 2019 Passport, now driving a 2023 Pilot. Yes, the new body style is nice… But, my Passport had such better handling and road manners, very similar to a former BMW X3. It really drove quite well. The new Pilot’s engine is not as good, it is weaker, and the new transmission shifts abruptly 1-2 and overall is inferior compared to the 9-speed on the Passport. Fuel mileage is much worse, I can barely get 24mpg on the highway, whereas the Passport would be upper20’s all day long.
Yes, plus with the Passport you get a true auto transmission, no cvt. I hope for 2025 Honda incorporates the power and mpg improvements that are in the current Pilot. I’ll wait for that to happen.
Unfortunately, the v6 honda's come with timing belts, a very expensive repair indeed. Just got an estimate for my ridgeline from dealer...$3850. I love my truck but would not have bought had I known this. Buyer beware.
@@tomcharbonneau9788 The entire timing belt and water pump job goes around $1,250 at Honda dealers near me. We also have a few highly reputable independent shops that specialize on Hondas who'll do it for around $800. These are 2024 prices. I paid $800 to have it done at the dealer in 2019.
We have a 23 exl passport and we love it. We needed something big but did not need a 3rd row. We also wanted a v6. It’s a super smooth and spacious car. It drives great. I love the powertrain. It will last us a very long time like our old pilot did.
I bought a 2023 passport a year ago and I love it! All wheel drive during my Midwest winter was fantastic. This is a very good vehicle all the way around.
I bought a 2024 passport after considering other options like the Mazda CX-5/50 because it was the largest suv I could fit inside my garage and was the most comfortable to sit in. The Mazda’s are nice cars but I felt cramped in it, the headroom for a driver above 6’2” was terrible. Yes, the Honda isn’t perfect but it offers the most comfortable ride, most storage in its class. I could do without the button shifters, but aside from that I love it.
@@johnbatson8779 that sucks for you. Buy/keep a Subaru Outback then. I only compared against the Mazda since it had a length less than 190”. The outback is longer than that and also a bit uglier IMO.
This is a good video. What is a failure is the Pilot is a much larger drive feeling than the Passport. He made a great point in the video - the Passport handles better than the Pilot, steers better, and is more fun to drive. I agree. We love our Passport.
David: thinking about the newer Pilot drivetrain and platform compared to the previous drivetrain and platform still in the Passport, which engine and transmission version do you prefer? Do you think the Passport will be updated in 2025 to the newer 3.5 engine, 10 speed transmission and lighter/stronger platform?
I have a 2020 Passport, it is a great all around vehicle. Terrific driver and road trip car, I installed 18” Pilot wheels to allow for more sidewall and a less harsh ride. My only complaint is the button shifter, to say I’m not a fan is an understatement. I also feel it is a safety issue, I have frequently turned off my wife’s RAV4, without shifting it to park (learned behavior from my Passport). I would love to buy another but that probably will deter me.
Had a 17 Ridge built at the Alabama plant and now a 24 CRV EXL built at the Canada plant. The CRV without a doubt has tighter gaps, better closing doors and paint looks perfect and feels like it has a good thickness.
Love the content, David and the presentation is spot-on. As a point, I hear you when you say the Pilot offers more space, is bigger, and only costs a bit more than the Passport; however, bigger is not always better, regardless of the upfront investment. The Pilot would have been our choice when we were still hauling kids around, but at this point in our life, the extra space in the Pilot, and subsequently, the additional cost, albeit it minimal, would be wasted. For us, the Passport checks off all the boxes.
I think you should comment about capabilities versus the CRV, which has a much lower payload/hauling capability. I would say, opt for the passport, if you are looking for those things.
I love the size of the Passport and it still has the V6! It needs the newer infotainment screen and an interior upgrade. I wish they offered a brown leather interior.
Have Passport and concur with all findings. But- as an engineer, i found the emphasis on fit&finish useless. Tell me about the transmission and AWD. How does the suspension actually work? What lumens/candlepower are the headlights? So much actual engineering left out!
I test drove a pilot and liked it but it was too big and heavy for me. I could tell it was a well built and a nice vehicle. It felt like a tank. It was slow to accelerate and I have absolutely no use for third row seating. I need something that will fit my very large dog and golf clubs together comfortably and need the extra hp & torque over a cr-v for boat towing. Thanks for the content. I watch a lot of your critiques.
The passport will get the same new interior upgrades of the pilot and will look great in the trailsport next year. Im still getting the new 4Runner next year but love the V6 in the Passport. Great reviews David.
I really like the Passport, but google transmissions and Honda. You will find there is a class action lawsuit about the 9 gear transmission. You will also notice the newer Pilot went from the 9 to a 10 gear transmission. Game changer for me. Even though it is a 3 row and more $$$, I am considering a Toyota Highlander now.
I have been considering the Passport for its vastly superior towing capacity over the CR-V (5000 lb vs 1500 lb) and don't need the third row of seating. For the money, it's about the best way to get 5000 lb of towing capacity and all wheel drive in the entire vehicle market.
Would be interested in hearing comments on how Honda is sticking with the normally aspirated V6 over Toyotas V4 turbos in the Highlander, and also comments on the 9 speed tranny? Many mixed reviews on this transmission, next generation Passport will surely have the Pilots 10 speed.
Rick, there are no V4 engines currently produced. “V” refers to the positioning of the cylinders in the engine block. The 4-cylinder engines are all mostly “I4”, which is inline-4. The exception is Subaru’s boxer 4-cylinder, where the cylinders are horizontally opposed. Just my 2cents
Looking for a replacement someday for my 2010 RAV4 V6 and this is definitely at the top of my list. What are the main reasons being the J series V6 engine. I keep my vehicles for a long time so the one big negative I could see is a timing belt at 105k. I would get used so I would be closer to the mileage than new. I’ve seen quotes up to $2000 to replace.
I didn't need the 3rd row of the Pilot but NO WAY wanted a CRV transmission. The Passport Elite AWD is perfect for me. I'm 65 widower and do some light towing and solo camping. I put Sumo Springs on the rear and a skid plate up front. Swapped out the low prof OE tire and put on 265/50r20 Falken Wildpeak AS/AT tires. I can handle BLM and logging roads just fine. And the Honda J35Y VTec mated to the 9 speed conventional (no crv) trans is rock solid reliable. I looked at the KIA, Hyundai, and even a Ford. Honda all day. Mine is Sonic Gray. It did take a bit to get used to the pushbutton shifter. The only think I wish it had was a always-displayed compass. And it is wider that it appears.
Thank You for your insightful review. We are just in the beginnings of replacing our 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe. Yes, we purchase a vehicle and keep it long term. It looks like the Passport is a contender for us.
The rear hatch height of the new Pilot, has been severely lowered over the prior generation, to the point where it is barely 28" on the sides and 30" in the center. MUCH lower height than the Passport. Putting it differently, the new Pilot, can NOT fit a 30" full-sized dog crate in the hatch area, while the Passport can fit it like a charm. Passport has a MUCH more practical rear hatch area, vis-a-vis the new Pilot, and is practicality not a major aspect to getting an SUV ?
Just the right size and everything else except cannot abide the fakakata shifter. A shame - so close to the perfect midsizer for those not needing / wanting a third row and the extra length/weight that usually suggests.
I like your reviews very much. Please keep them coming. No one else makes a comment on paint thickness and compares it with Toyota plus the panel gaps. I’m unclear why the CR V doesn’t have a flat floor with the seats folded down and I have concerns about the longevity of the 1.5 liter turbo engine. Nothing I’ve heard so far addresses those concerns completely.
You videos are incredibly helpful. I am trying to decide between a 2024 passport & 2024 bronco sport heritage. I feel the passport is a predictable ride, the bs heritage is a little more fun. I have been driving a honda element for over 15 years. The honda braking and driving were a little more familiar. The ford felt like a ford!
The passport offers you more amenities for the price than a 4 runne. Only the limited edition comes close. It also offers more for the price than the hylander.
You only change Timing Belt every 100,000 miles. Unless you're towing or driving extreme temperatures, then sooner. That price dealers quote also covers new water pump. Timing Chains also have problems see on internet.
2025 passport will be a new gen. Honda is pushing 24 model year to aggressively get them off the lot to make room. Almost every dealerships are giving the Passport incentives and discounts.
We have a 21 Passport Touring and love it. Having a normally aspirated V-6 as well a "real" 9 speed transmission (as opposed to CVT) were major considerations. Also having a compact spare as opposed to an air pump kit that some others (like Acura) are using was extra peace of mind. Consistent Honda quality and reliability were other factors in our purchase decision.
@@LoveLikeaHurricane Our Passport is FWD but for emergency purposes I don't think it would make a difference if the spare was put on either the front or the rear. Just so that the vehicle could be safely driven to get the full size tire repaired.
2024 blk edition with HPD grille and rims. Passport perfect for me, wife and 3 weens in the back. Plenty of room for them. So three seats are useless for me. Nice V6 and transmission (NO CVT) perfect again. Not to many negative. MPG's. I don't care too much because I also drive a 2017 Ram 3500 dually so MPG's are not a big problem..
I'm surprised you didn't delve into the drivetrain. The V6, 9-SPD transmission and IVTM-4 was a major factor when i chose the Passport. Many crossovers on the market now are offering 4 cyl, CVT transmissions and not as sophisticated of an AWD System.
I bought a new Pilot in 2011 that rode very well but was kind of boxy and didn’t handle curves all that well. In 2016 I purchased a new Pilot Elite and it was all I could ask for. Even the gpm surprised me with 21 in town and 27 on the road. In 2021 I purchased a new Passport Elite and it’s the best vehicle I have ever owned considering over all performance. It’s a little stiffer ride than my Pilots were but it really hugs the road and it is pretty darn quick. Didn’t need the 3rd row but still needed space for luggage on trips to Florida. With the 2nd row down I think there is every bit as much space as my Pilots had with there 2nd and 3rd row down. I will definitely purchase a Passport again as long as they keep the 3.5 naturally aspirated engine. Never a problem with any of them. My only problem with it is the front row arm rest which they have now changer with the 2024 model. 2nd row is very comfortable and easily accommodates larger people. Plenty of charging ports and cup holders all around and a/c controls for rear passage as well as heated seats on the upper models. Front row has heated and ventilated seats on the Elite. Also very high ratings on safety all the way around.
I think the Passport is a great option and alternative for the Pilot, for those who don't need the 3rd row, but don't want something as small as a CR-V. Great for an adventure vehicle. Moreover, like how the Ridgeline is a truck for non-truck people. The Pilot is an adventure vehicle, without having to deal with the inefficiencies of a body on frame vehicle, like a 4Runner. It may not out-perform a 4Runner, off-road, but it'll get really close, and do much better than a Rav4 or Highlander. Plus, that shorter rear overhang is going to help a lot, off-road. This thing is basically as good as the Defender, off-road. Its off-road management is at least as good as Toyota's newest system, but definitely better than Toyota's previous system. I just don't know why they haven't updated the body design to the new platform yet. This old design should be on clearance already. IMO, they should update the Passport to the new Pilot platform, and slightly change it to have more features from the previous Element; a more squared design and split tailgate. It'll be everything Element fans would want: more space, more power, 4 full doors, and that split tailgate.
That's really a great idea! I loved our Element, but there was a lot of road noise and let's face it, it wasn't very good at fuel consumption, thought it did everything else great!
Low tech and overpriced. After adding a few options to the Trailsport including the trailer hitch, it comes within 3 grands of the Pilot Trailsport. I don't know who would buy this over the Pilot with much better resale value.
Spot on. I have switched to Honda vehicles for the reasons you have given. Thoughtful design that are well engineered They use high quality materials and construction. High on my list for any vehicle I own is ride and handling. My Honda vehicles outclass others in that category. Honda's ride and handling is surprisingly good. All of these qualities make them a pleasure to drive and own for a long time.
I am purchasing the Passport over the Highlander due to standard features and the other items that make the Passport a better value all things considered. The engine is well proven and quite powerful for a mid sized SUV. Most folks never use the third row seating so they stay folded. When you fold the back seats in the Passport you can sleep a 6 foot 5 guy in the back!
my 23 passport is great at everything .... except it is terrible in parking lots with uneven pavement and speed-bumps! if you hit something uneven at any kind of angle it just throws you around!
Hey Thank you for you input. I am looking at this today along with a gmc acadia. I have never bought a chevy nervous about quality. I think the passport is right up my ally. I want a smooth engine with no turbo and I do not like cvt Transmissions.
You do an engineering review yet you say nothing about the engine, nine-speed automatic transmission, or the AWD system😂😂 You compare this to the Toyota products and as far as I'm concerned the biggest difference is in the drive trains. Toyota offers modern hybrid and turbo drivetrains which are in high demand. This vehicle and the Pilot only have one naturally asperated V6 engine. I would skip the 2023 version and get the 2024 when it gets all the pilot features. Speaking about the Pilot, the average American family has 2 children, why anyone would need a 7 passenger vehicle is beyond me.
If you travel on vacation with adults or children. If you carry a lot of stuff. My elderly handicapped parent who passed away a few years ago. She used wheelchair and walker. Throw those 2 items in with luggage, and your cargo space will diminish. My sister had Dodge minivan in the 1990s. It's replacement was Honda Ridgeline Pickup Truck with Tonneau Cover over its bed. So it can haul a lot of stuff and always taking trips. I picked the Ridgeline and have used for myself. It's a multi-purpose vehicle. Drives like a SUV with a bed but it's beefed up. I will be replacing my personal 20+yr old Acura sedan next month. They didn't redesign the Ridgeline this year. So I'm getting 2024 Pilot Elite. I did alot of deep searching in my mind. I absolutely love the Ridgeline. For years said it would be my personal next vehicle. Although prior to 2017 the Acura MDX was on my radar. So no full redesign of Ridgeline that faded months ago. I had already started looking at Pilot ever since redesign release 2023. You fold that 3rd Row of seats down and use for cargo space.
I see turbo and I know there will be problems, I see hybrid and I see no fuel advantages when factoring the replacement battery cost, it's a short sighted wasteful technology.
This is my first time viewing your site. I was very interested in your engineering review. I never thought that much about the paint and the gaps of alignment. I appreciate that you think that Honda does a good job especially with the paint thickness. I currently drive a 2006 pilot. 194,000 miles I’ve considered replacing it. The pilot has gotten longer by 6 inches… Which I don’t need in my garage. And I never use the third row. In 18 years I think we’ve used the third row one time. I like the height in the pilot and the passport. Very important for me to sit up high but I agree with you that unfortunately Honda just doesn’t give you the features that, for example, Hyundai does in its Santa Fe calligraphy model. I want those folding side mirrors so I don’t clip them off entering my garage that happened one time and I want the standard shifter and the wireless iPhone Apple CarPlay. That said I think that for reliability you can’t beat that Honda. Unfortunately, as you said the styling is so boring. It barely looks different from my 2006 model. but reliability is really number one.
Why didn't you get into the engine and transmissions in your review. I know it is a normally aspirated V6 with a real 9 speed transmission, and a lot of people like that combination.
If anyone wants to buy the Passport and can wait they should. I believe the next gen will be released for 2025 and then should be able to get this gen on discount.
I heard the 2025 passport will be all new with the new engine and tranny that the new pilot has, so i will wait for that and the only thing i don't like is the vcm , but you can buy a s-vcm that will shut that off, i would for sure add that on it.
I own a 2023 pilot elite and a 2008 ford f150 ,at first I did look down to shift or up ,but after a few weeks I don't have that problem. Muscle memory is amazing
I owned a 2020 touring and just exchanged it for a 2024 Touring. As you can tell, I absolutely love it. The engineering behind it and how it drives is great. The Honda i-VTM4 All-Wheel Drive makes all the difference. The 9-speed V6 is a gem. Longevity and reliability !
Awkward stance, wheel/tire combo seems way too small, almost looks like the wheels aren't centred in the wheel wells; like the exterior styling of the body is too big for the wheelbase.
David, I really enjoy your educated reviews. Between Honda and Toyota what do you consider to be the better manufacturer? I've owned both for long periods of time and consider it a toss up.
Great review! Agreed that the interior technology is outdated. I have a 22’ Pilot Trailsport and I definitely love the steering feel of it. How would you compare the 22’ to 23’? Is it a big improvement?
David, I a agree with you. I think both the Pilot and Passport have the same drivetrain. Also, I don't like the push button shifter. If you have to react 'fast' then the regular shifter is the best...you don't have to look down to find the button to press and therefore take your eyes off the road.
Engineering review comes up really short, nothing about the Power train and the key features that buyers should be aware of like : V6 Engine still has a Timing Belt (Costly replacement), Stop & start feature, Cylinder deactivation which has issues (Called VSM) which most buyers don't care for & are not really much of a fuel savings. Also the chronic issue with the GDI Engines (Carbon built up on the Intake Valves) which Toyota did something about by incorporating a Dual Injection System (Port Injection with GDI). Honda Passport is a beautiful SUV, but would be better offer with Toyota Power train. I don't like the Push Button Shifters, I don't see the safety measures in this feature, much prefer a shifter so I can quickly move mechanically. The Honda CR-V is not much better either with 1.5Liter Turbo (Stay away from Turbos). All these New Vehicles with Plastic parts and so much drive by wire Components cost a heck of a lot of money to fix & I am convinced we better start keep some of the older Generation Vehicles because they were made better and cost less to repair.
Nice review! I like how you approach the different areas that other reviews don't mention. I'm also looking forward to the 2025 Ridgeline. I hope they can update it!
I'm 6'5" and the Ridgeline is so uncomfortable for me. I weigh between 220-225 so it's not like I'm way overweight. I wish, hope, they just use the Pilot for doing the next truck.
I was actually looking at a Passport and thought the exact same thing. It's good looking on the outside and rather spartan on the inside and you're absolutely correct about the lack of tech features that even a few subcompact CUVs offer is embarrassing and there's no excuse, I agree. So, as much as I like it, the Pilot is more money, but also more for the money. I think I'll check out that Venza now....🐰
@chrissullivan5752 Actually, the FIRST Venza was built off of the Camry platform (AV10). The latest Venza has been built on the XU80 platform since 2020, and is a parts bin CUV with elements of the RAV-4 and the Lexus NX; neither of which are Camry-based.
Very good and thorough review. Wish you would've included thoughts and opinions regarding engine/transmission pros, cons, common failures, reliability... Since the Passport is most likely due for a redesign and complete refresh in 2025, it would've been nice to hear what this generation got right and what the next generation needs to address, fix and or change in terms of engine and transmission. Not a critique or complaint, just wanted more of your thoughts regarding what's under the hood. Thankyou for sharing this helpful breakdown of the Passport.
David, it would be appreciated for manufacturers to give customers a choice to have Apple Car Play, or use a physical cable if that is preferred to connect the phone to the vehicle. Many customers prefer using only a cable, however, it would be nice to have a choice to be able to have Apple CarPlay, or the physical cable. My choice would be the Pilot for the additional storage area, Apple Car Play, and other Pilot features.
I think the premium trim (2024 Passport Black Edition) has the wireless capability; plus, a few other functions like heated steering, heated rear seats, …
Thanks, for the review. We a have a good friend who has a 2023 Passport and have rode in it with him this summer and fall. Compared to our 2019 CX-5 Signature it is roomier and nice, but it felt and looked spartan and leathers were stiff, not as comfortable or luxury feeling as our car. I found the shifter odd and like the traditional shift of the Mazda better. I also found the although roomier, the backseat was uncomfortable with a low seat height or high floor height. Overall the Mazda fits our needs well, it could use a little more back seat room but we don't have rear passengers very often. Still prefer the quality and luxury of the Mazda for the price. Thanks, again for your reviews.
The only vehicles I’ve ever had paint problems with are Honda’s. Big, circular, flaky, cancerous-looking paint chips started bubbling up & falling off. I babied that Honda, too. Also, the transmission went out at 76k miles. There’s a reason that Toyota/Lexus are at the top of the charts 📊 in reliability (engineering) & Honda/Acura are not. It’s disappointing how much Honda/Acura have slipped over the last two decades. Also, Toyota/Lexus does not require manual valve adjustments. Honda needs to reinvent this as they produce more engines than any other car manufacturer. I’ve read/heard that they maybe doing this sooner than later.
Bought a new Passport Touring in April 2021. Absolutely love the powertrain. Not so much in love with the technology. The push button shifter is slow to respond compared to a mechanical system and the navigation is often lucky that I'm not holding a hammer in my hand when its most common response is .....Pardon?😂 Have an 06 Odyssey with 215k on it and it operates nearly as new. Change the timing belt myself and its not really that difficult for an average DIY mechanic.
Your assessment of the Passport is spot on, David. We had a '16 Pilot Touring that we purchased in August of 2015. It was a fabulous vehicle, probably the best I've owned in what is now 55 years of purchasing new vehicles. We needed the room to haul grandkids & the 7 passenger Pilot worked well for us. When we decided it was time to trade 6 years later, we no longer needed a 7 passenger vehicle, but wanted to stay with roughly the same hauling capacity. The only SUV we even considered at the time was a new Passport. No one else had anything comparable. Our '21 Passport Elite is a fantastic SUV. It is essentially identical to the Pilot, but 6" shorter with more luggage space behind the rear seats than the Pilot & nearly as much luggage room with the rear seats folded down. It surpasses the qualities of our Pilot and has been a great stablemate to our '15 Subaru Forester Touring, (another great little SUV) In July this year we gave our Forester to one of our daughters & bought a new '23 RAV4 Limited Hybrid. My goodness, what a fantastic vehicle. I truly believe we now own 2 of the finest vehicles in our price category that money can buy. You mentioned that the new Pilot is a better buy than the Passport. That may well be, IF you need to haul more than 5 people. However, the Passport still fills a need that no one else offers. I wish Toyota would follow suit now that they have the Grand Highlander, they should remake the Highlander into a 5 passenger vehicle to compete with the Passport. If they would do that & offer a true off road variant, they would dominate the market.
Thank you for sharing your experience about the Pilot and Passport!
Until the Passport is is upgraded to come the level of the Pilot, there is no reason to buy a Passport. You don't ever have to use the 3rd row.
@@matrixist but it’s at 6 inches in length that I don’t want in my garage because I will barely be able to fit it
I own a 2022 passport and a 2020 highlander. Honestly, the big difference is the passport has a stiff ride and handles like a truck. The highlander drives like a car. But, I love both of them.
I have a Passport, but three things: One, I'm single, so I don't need or even want the extra seats nor video players, nor back cabin voice. Two: I did want the J35 engine, because it's legendary and probably the last iVTEC V6 (you can keep ur turbos thx). Three I live in Canada in a snowbelt, and the iVTM4 with quality snow tires is sublime in the snow. Unless you try it in snow +asphalt you may not truly understand the strengths of the Passport.
Just bought a new 2023 Passport EX-L and my experience has been very similar to your review. I love the new look and feel and as a former BMW X5(2018) owner, I'd honestly have to say that I'm losing almost NOTHING in features and comfort with this new Passport. It's a great value and I'm almost kicking myself for not making the switch sooner!
With a 2020 Ridgeline I agree with Dave, It's a little out of date maybe but is just about exactly what we needed, And a very good driving Vehicle, You forgot to mention the V6 most of us like over turbo fours. 🇺🇸👍
Yes, a big plus
I miss my 2019 Passport, now driving a 2023 Pilot. Yes, the new body style is nice… But, my Passport had such better handling and road manners, very similar to a former BMW X3. It really drove quite well. The new Pilot’s engine is not as good, it is weaker, and the new transmission shifts abruptly 1-2 and overall is inferior compared to the 9-speed on the Passport. Fuel mileage is much worse, I can barely get 24mpg on the highway, whereas the Passport would be upper20’s all day long.
Biggest selling feature is the naturally aspirated v6. Toyota has moved away from v6 in the highlander/rx and smaller suvs.
Yes, plus with the Passport you get a true auto transmission, no cvt. I hope for 2025 Honda incorporates the power and mpg improvements that are in the current Pilot. I’ll wait for that to happen.
Unfortunately, the v6 honda's come with timing belts, a very expensive repair indeed. Just got an estimate for my ridgeline from dealer...$3850. I love my truck but would not have bought had I known this. Buyer beware.
@@tomcharbonneau9788Don’t go to the stealership. 1000$ job.
Your mom was naturally aspirated last night!
@@tomcharbonneau9788 The entire timing belt and water pump job goes around $1,250 at Honda dealers near me. We also have a few highly reputable independent shops that specialize on Hondas who'll do it for around $800. These are 2024 prices. I paid $800 to have it done at the dealer in 2019.
We have a 23 exl passport and we love it. We needed something big but did not need a 3rd row. We also wanted a v6. It’s a super smooth and spacious car. It drives great. I love the powertrain. It will last us a very long time like our old pilot did.
I’ve owned dozens of cars and my 21 Passport is one of my all time favorites. It’s a great all around vehicle.
I bought a 2023 passport a year ago and I love it! All wheel drive during my Midwest winter was fantastic. This is a very good vehicle all the way around.
I’d wait for the Passport redesign coming within a year.
Hopefully the previous generation still on the lots will get discounted 👍
I bought a 2024 passport after considering other options like the Mazda CX-5/50 because it was the largest suv I could fit inside my garage and was the most comfortable to sit in. The Mazda’s are nice cars but I felt cramped in it, the headroom for a driver above 6’2” was terrible. Yes, the Honda isn’t perfect but it offers the most comfortable ride, most storage in its class. I could do without the button shifters, but aside from that I love it.
Me and my daughter are 6'2' and the front will not allow for our long legs to be comfortable, as compared to a Subaru Outback
@@johnbatson8779 that sucks for you. Buy/keep a Subaru Outback then. I only compared against the Mazda since it had a length less than 190”. The outback is longer than that and also a bit uglier IMO.
I have a 2022 Passport , very nice to tow with on vacation
This is a good video. What is a failure is the Pilot is a much larger drive feeling than the Passport. He made a great point in the video - the Passport handles better than the Pilot, steers better, and is more fun to drive. I agree. We love our Passport.
Your review misses an overview of the powertrain, cargo space & fuel economy. Much more important than the paint quality for most.
David: thinking about the newer Pilot drivetrain and platform compared to the previous drivetrain and platform still in the Passport, which engine and transmission version do you prefer? Do you think the Passport will be updated in 2025 to the newer 3.5 engine, 10 speed transmission and lighter/stronger platform?
I have a 2020 Passport, it is a great all around vehicle. Terrific driver and road trip car, I installed 18” Pilot wheels to allow for more sidewall and a less harsh ride. My only complaint is the button shifter, to say I’m not a fan is an understatement. I also feel it is a safety issue, I have frequently turned off my wife’s RAV4, without shifting it to park (learned behavior from my Passport). I would love to buy another but that probably will deter me.
I agree. I prefer a real shifter. I hate buttons.
Great review i like the Passport, the wheel base and overall vehicle is similar to the 1-2 generation Pilot without the 3rd row seat!
I really don't like CRV's 1.5 turbo, the hybrid doesn't have a backup tire, too bad
Had a 17 Ridge built at the Alabama plant and now a 24 CRV EXL built at the Canada plant. The CRV without a doubt has tighter gaps, better closing doors and paint looks perfect and feels like it has a good thickness.
Love the content, David and the presentation is spot-on. As a point, I hear you when you say the Pilot offers more space, is bigger, and only costs a bit more than the Passport; however, bigger is not always better, regardless of the upfront investment. The Pilot would have been our choice when we were still hauling kids around, but at this point in our life, the extra space in the Pilot, and subsequently, the additional cost, albeit it minimal, would be wasted. For us, the Passport checks off all the boxes.
I think you should comment about capabilities versus the CRV, which has a much lower payload/hauling capability. I would say, opt for the passport, if you are looking for those things.
I love the size of the Passport and it still has the V6! It needs the newer infotainment screen and an interior upgrade. I wish they offered a brown leather interior.
Have Passport and concur with all findings.
But- as an engineer, i found the emphasis on fit&finish useless. Tell me about the transmission and AWD. How does the suspension actually work? What lumens/candlepower are the headlights? So much actual engineering left out!
I test drove a pilot and liked it but it was too big and heavy for me. I could tell it was a well built and a nice vehicle. It felt like a tank. It was slow to accelerate and I have absolutely no use for third row seating. I need something that will fit my very large dog and golf clubs together comfortably and need the extra hp & torque over a cr-v for boat towing. Thanks for the content. I watch a lot of your critiques.
The passport will get the same new interior upgrades of the pilot and will look great in the trailsport next year. Im still getting the new 4Runner next year but love the V6 in the Passport. Great reviews David.
I really like the Passport, but google transmissions and Honda. You will find there is a class action lawsuit about the 9 gear transmission. You will also notice the newer Pilot went from the 9 to a 10 gear transmission. Game changer for me. Even though it is a 3 row and more $$$, I am considering a Toyota Highlander now.
I have been considering the Passport for its vastly superior towing capacity over the CR-V (5000 lb vs 1500 lb) and don't need the third row of seating. For the money, it's about the best way to get 5000 lb of towing capacity and all wheel drive in the entire vehicle market.
I’m 6’3, Crv too small, no little children so don’t need 3rd row, perfect fit for me and my wife.
Would be interested in hearing comments on how Honda is sticking with the normally aspirated V6 over Toyotas V4 turbos in the Highlander, and also comments on the 9 speed tranny? Many mixed reviews on this transmission, next generation Passport will surely have the Pilots 10 speed.
Turbos don’t last as long as naturally aspirated engines like the one on Passport. Turbos need more TLC; if not it’ll give you issues down the road.
Rick, there are no V4 engines currently produced. “V” refers to the positioning of the cylinders in the engine block. The 4-cylinder engines are all mostly “I4”, which is inline-4. The exception is Subaru’s boxer 4-cylinder, where the cylinders are horizontally opposed. Just my 2cents
Ok thanks for clarifying that I didn’t realize we’re getting all specific technically, I’m sure the majority basically get my point.
The problem is all the stealerships pricing addendums over the MSRP on all these Hondas.
Not everywhere. Where I live, Honda prices are in line but Toyotas are all priced even higher than during car shortages.
@@makb5354 that’s only allowed if uninformed buyers allow it to happen.
Looking for a replacement someday for my 2010 RAV4 V6 and this is definitely at the top of my list. What are the main reasons being the J series V6 engine. I keep my vehicles for a long time so the one big negative I could see is a timing belt at 105k. I would get used so I would be closer to the mileage than new. I’ve seen quotes up to $2000 to replace.
I didn't need the 3rd row of the Pilot but NO WAY wanted a CRV transmission. The Passport Elite AWD is perfect for me. I'm 65 widower and do some light towing and solo camping. I put Sumo Springs on the rear and a skid plate up front. Swapped out the low prof OE tire and put on 265/50r20 Falken Wildpeak AS/AT tires. I can handle BLM and logging roads just fine. And the Honda
J35Y VTec mated to the 9 speed conventional (no crv) trans is rock solid reliable. I looked at the KIA, Hyundai, and even a Ford. Honda all day. Mine is Sonic Gray. It did take a bit to get used to the pushbutton shifter. The only think I wish it had was a always-displayed compass. And it is wider that it appears.
Thank You for your insightful review. We are just in the beginnings of replacing our 2007 Hyundai Santa Fe. Yes, we purchase a vehicle and keep it long term. It looks like the Passport is a contender for us.
The rear hatch height of the new Pilot, has been severely lowered over the prior generation, to the point where it is barely 28" on the sides and 30" in the center. MUCH lower height than the Passport. Putting it differently, the new Pilot, can NOT fit a 30" full-sized dog crate in the hatch area, while the Passport can fit it like a charm. Passport has a MUCH more practical rear hatch area, vis-a-vis the new Pilot, and is practicality not a major aspect to getting an SUV ?
Just the right size and everything else except cannot abide the fakakata shifter. A shame - so close to the perfect midsizer for those not needing / wanting a third row and the extra length/weight that usually suggests.
I like your reviews very much. Please keep them coming. No one else makes a comment on paint thickness and compares it with Toyota plus the panel gaps. I’m unclear why the CR V doesn’t have a flat floor with the seats folded down and I have concerns about the longevity of the 1.5 liter turbo engine. Nothing I’ve heard so far addresses those concerns completely.
Crv is hybrid so battery under the seats
Why didn’t you comment on the engine or the performance of the Passport over the CRV, pilot, or comparable Toyota products.
You videos are incredibly helpful.
I am trying to decide between a 2024 passport & 2024 bronco sport heritage. I feel the passport is a predictable ride, the bs heritage is a little more fun. I have been driving a honda element for over 15 years. The honda braking and driving were a little more familiar. The ford felt like a ford!
Lol… you sound like me. About to replace my 2007 Element, top 2 contenders are bronco sport and passport. Did you end up picking one of those?
Doesn't the Passport have a 6 cylinder ? Compared to the 4 in the CRV ? I wished you would have spoke on the engines a little more.
I’m an engineer as well and like your approach to reviews. I’m considering a 2024 Passport because I like the size, engine and AWD system.
The passport offers you more amenities for the price than a 4 runne. Only the limited edition comes close. It also offers more for the price than the hylander.
Very true!! I traded a 2023 4Runner for a '21 Passport and ZERO regrets! Love my Passport!
Great review. I have a 2019 Honda CR-V and am very happy with Honda products in general.
Too bad Honda likes to stick with timing belt instead of chain like Toyota. Belt replacement is very expensive. .
You only change Timing Belt every 100,000 miles. Unless you're towing or driving extreme temperatures, then sooner. That price dealers quote also covers new water pump.
Timing Chains also have problems see on internet.
Love your videos. Please do one for the new gen Honda Pilot.
I have a 2023 but wish it was more polished and refined for the price. Thanks for the review
What you and I are asking for is this engine in the Acura RDX.. I know. ..sigh.
Honda fit and finish is not what it used to be
Would you share a link to paint meter? I need to buy one 🙏🏼
Honda makes fantastic cars hands down
2025 passport will be a new gen. Honda is pushing 24 model year to aggressively get them off the lot to make room. Almost every dealerships are giving the Passport incentives and discounts.
We have a 21 Passport Touring and love it. Having a normally aspirated V-6 as well a "real" 9 speed transmission (as opposed to CVT) were major considerations. Also having a compact spare as opposed to an air pump kit that some others (like Acura) are using was extra peace of mind. Consistent Honda quality and reliability were other factors in our purchase decision.
Do you put the compact spare in the front or rear due to the AWD?
@@LoveLikeaHurricane Our Passport is FWD but for emergency purposes I don't think it would make a difference if the spare was put on either the front or the rear. Just so that the vehicle could be safely driven to get the full size tire repaired.
2024 blk edition with HPD grille and rims. Passport perfect for me, wife and 3 weens in the back. Plenty of room for them. So three seats are useless for me. Nice V6 and transmission (NO CVT) perfect again. Not to many negative. MPG's. I don't care too much because I also drive a 2017 Ram 3500 dually so MPG's are not a big problem..
I'm surprised you didn't delve into the drivetrain. The V6, 9-SPD transmission and IVTM-4 was a major factor when i chose the Passport. Many crossovers on the market now are offering 4 cyl, CVT transmissions and not as sophisticated of an AWD System.
I bought a new Pilot in 2011 that rode very well but was kind of boxy and didn’t handle curves all that well. In 2016 I purchased a new Pilot Elite and it was all I could ask for. Even the gpm surprised me with 21 in town and 27 on the road. In 2021 I purchased a new Passport Elite and it’s the best vehicle I have ever owned considering over all performance. It’s a little stiffer ride than my Pilots were but it really hugs the road and it is pretty darn quick. Didn’t need the 3rd row but still needed space for luggage on trips to Florida. With the 2nd row down I think there is every bit as much space as my Pilots had with there 2nd and 3rd row down. I will definitely purchase a Passport again as long as they keep the 3.5 naturally aspirated engine. Never a problem with any of them. My only problem with it is the front row arm rest which they have now changer with the 2024 model. 2nd row is very comfortable and easily accommodates larger people. Plenty of charging ports and cup holders all around and a/c controls for rear passage as well as heated seats on the upper models. Front row has heated and ventilated seats on the Elite. Also very high ratings on safety all the way around.
I think the Passport is a great option and alternative for the Pilot, for those who don't need the 3rd row, but don't want something as small as a CR-V. Great for an adventure vehicle.
Moreover, like how the Ridgeline is a truck for non-truck people. The Pilot is an adventure vehicle, without having to deal with the inefficiencies of a body on frame vehicle, like a 4Runner.
It may not out-perform a 4Runner, off-road, but it'll get really close, and do much better than a Rav4 or Highlander. Plus, that shorter rear overhang is going to help a lot, off-road.
This thing is basically as good as the Defender, off-road. Its off-road management is at least as good as Toyota's newest system, but definitely better than Toyota's previous system.
I just don't know why they haven't updated the body design to the new platform yet. This old design should be on clearance already.
IMO, they should update the Passport to the new Pilot platform, and slightly change it to have more features from the previous Element; a more squared design and split tailgate. It'll be everything Element fans would want: more space, more power, 4 full doors, and that split tailgate.
That's really a great idea! I loved our Element, but there was a lot of road noise and let's face it, it wasn't very good at fuel consumption, thought it did everything else great!
Low tech and overpriced.
After adding a few options to the Trailsport including the trailer hitch, it comes within 3 grands of the Pilot Trailsport. I don't know who would buy this over the Pilot with much better resale value.
Spot on. I have switched to Honda vehicles for the reasons you have given. Thoughtful design that are well engineered They use high quality materials and construction. High on my list for any vehicle I own is ride and handling. My Honda vehicles outclass others in that category. Honda's ride and handling is surprisingly good. All of these qualities make them a pleasure to drive and own for a long time.
I am purchasing the Passport over the Highlander due to standard features and the other items that make the Passport a better value all things considered. The engine is well proven and quite powerful for a mid sized SUV. Most folks never use the third row seating so they stay folded. When you fold the back seats in the Passport you can sleep a 6 foot 5 guy in the back!
my 23 passport is great at everything ....
except
it is terrible in parking lots with uneven pavement and speed-bumps! if you hit something uneven at any kind of angle it just throws you around!
The-only thing your review is missing is a focus on the powertrains & the. MPGs.
People need real world fuel economy specs & power ratings.
Hey Thank you for you input. I am looking at this today along with a gmc acadia. I have never bought a chevy nervous about quality.
I think the passport is right up my ally. I want a smooth engine with no turbo and I do not like cvt Transmissions.
Appreciate so much you sharing your knowledge and expertise with us thank you so much.
Hopefully they will upgrade the engine and technology for 2025”. The pilot is too big for me!
Great review, David! Do you have any renderings of what the 2025 Passport will look like?
You do an engineering review yet you say nothing about the engine, nine-speed automatic transmission, or the AWD system😂😂 You compare this to the Toyota products and as far as I'm concerned the biggest difference is in the drive trains. Toyota offers modern hybrid and turbo drivetrains which are in high demand. This vehicle and the Pilot only have one naturally asperated V6 engine. I would skip the 2023 version and get the 2024 when it gets all the pilot features. Speaking about the Pilot, the average American family has 2 children, why anyone would need a 7 passenger vehicle is beyond me.
You obviously don’t have kids, for which you also take their friends to and from sports and other events.
If you travel on vacation with adults or children. If you carry a lot of stuff. My elderly handicapped parent who passed away a few years ago. She used wheelchair and walker. Throw those 2 items in with luggage, and your cargo space will diminish.
My sister had Dodge minivan in the 1990s. It's replacement was Honda Ridgeline Pickup Truck with Tonneau Cover over its bed.
So it can haul a lot of stuff and always taking trips.
I picked the Ridgeline and have used for myself.
It's a multi-purpose vehicle.
Drives like a SUV with a bed but it's beefed up.
I will be replacing my personal 20+yr old Acura sedan next month.
They didn't redesign the Ridgeline this year. So I'm getting 2024 Pilot
Elite. I did alot of deep searching in my mind. I absolutely love the Ridgeline. For years said it would be my personal next vehicle.
Although prior to 2017 the Acura MDX was on my radar.
So no full redesign of Ridgeline that faded months ago. I had already started looking at Pilot ever since redesign release 2023.
You fold that 3rd Row of seats down and use for cargo space.
I see turbo and I know there will be problems, I see hybrid and I see no fuel advantages when factoring the replacement battery cost, it's a short sighted wasteful technology.
This is my first time viewing your site. I was very interested in your engineering review. I never thought that much about the paint and the gaps of alignment. I appreciate that you think that Honda does a good job especially with the paint thickness. I currently drive a 2006 pilot. 194,000 miles I’ve considered replacing it. The pilot has gotten longer by 6 inches… Which I don’t need in my garage. And I never use the third row. In 18 years I think we’ve used the third row one time. I like the height in the pilot and the passport. Very important for me to sit up high but I agree with you that unfortunately Honda just doesn’t give you the features that, for example, Hyundai does in its Santa Fe calligraphy model. I want those folding side mirrors so I don’t clip them off entering my garage that happened one time and I want the standard shifter and the wireless iPhone Apple CarPlay. That said I think that for reliability you can’t beat that Honda. Unfortunately, as you said the styling is so boring. It barely looks different from my 2006 model. but reliability is really number one.
Why didn't you get into the engine and transmissions in your review. I know it is a normally aspirated V6 with a real 9 speed transmission, and a lot of people like that combination.
Find it interesting how with Toyota people are like yeah it’s dated but reliable. With Honda it’s dated who cares about the reliability.
If anyone wants to buy the Passport and can wait they should. I believe the next gen will be released for 2025 and then should be able to get this gen on discount.
I heard the 2025 passport will be all new with the new engine and tranny that the new pilot has, so i will wait for that and the only thing i don't like is the vcm , but you can buy a s-vcm that will shut that off, i would for sure add that on it.
I own a 2023 pilot elite and a 2008 ford f150 ,at first I did look down to shift or up ,but after a few weeks I don't have that problem. Muscle memory is amazing
Have same car if only Honda would fix over sensitive collision mitigating system- worst part of my ridgeline and passport
I owned a 2020 touring and just exchanged it for a 2024 Touring. As you can tell, I absolutely love it. The engineering behind it and how it drives is great. The Honda i-VTM4 All-Wheel Drive makes all the difference. The 9-speed V6 is a gem. Longevity and reliability !
Awkward stance, wheel/tire combo seems way too small, almost looks like the wheels aren't centred in the wheel wells; like the exterior styling of the body is too big for the wheelbase.
Thanks for the car review!
Honda is probably the reliable BMW)), and the Honda Ridgeline is the best overall car for me."
Thank you for the great information ❤
Nice job. Thank you for the detailed review
David, I really enjoy your educated reviews. Between Honda and Toyota what do you consider to be the better manufacturer? I've owned both for long periods of time and consider it a toss up.
I'm a honda product guy, the 2023 honda pilot elite is my best yet. After 8, 000 miles the more I drive it the more I love it
IM CONSIDERING BUYING THIS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR REVIEW
Great review! Agreed that the interior technology is outdated. I have a 22’ Pilot Trailsport and I definitely love the steering feel of it. How would you compare the 22’ to 23’? Is it a big improvement?
That interior is horrible! Hopefully they use the new pilot interior for the new model.
6 cylinder good power. Gas mileage not great!!!!!
I can see the same mismatch in color of the body and bumpers in this model that you review as the model I own.
I have this same vehicle and I agree the paint is way better than my Tundra and Tacoma .
How can I reach you, havelock questions
An a person find a Japanese built Honda to buy in Canada?
My wife had this Passport when it came out, it was very dated then when it was a new model.
If only Acura would offer this J35 or the newer 3.0 Turbo V6 in the RDX. Don't understand why they don't.
Because the RDX is based off the CR-V.
David, I a agree with you. I think both the Pilot and Passport have the same drivetrain. Also, I don't like the push button shifter. If you have to react 'fast' then the regular shifter is the best...you don't have to look down to find the button to press and therefore take your eyes off the road.
Passport had 9 speed and the old engine from the pilot. 23 pilot and newer have a 10 speed and the new v6
Engineering review comes up really short, nothing about the Power train and the key features that buyers should be aware of like : V6 Engine still has a Timing Belt (Costly replacement), Stop & start feature, Cylinder deactivation which has issues (Called VSM) which most buyers don't care for & are not really much of a fuel savings. Also the chronic issue with the GDI Engines (Carbon built up on the Intake Valves) which Toyota did something about by incorporating a Dual Injection System (Port Injection with GDI). Honda Passport is a beautiful SUV, but would be better offer with Toyota Power train. I don't like the Push Button Shifters, I don't see the safety measures in this feature, much prefer a shifter so I can quickly move mechanically. The Honda CR-V is not much better either with 1.5Liter Turbo (Stay away from Turbos).
All these New Vehicles with Plastic parts and so much drive by wire Components cost a heck of a lot of money to fix & I am convinced we better start keep some of the older Generation Vehicles because they were made better and cost less to repair.
Also stay away from CVT transmissions (Honda CRV) .
That was a better review than the engineer gave. How about the good 0 wheel drive system left out a lot of stuff in the review.
@@Von-b2h Honda doesn't have issues with their CVT's
Nice review! I like how you approach the different areas that other reviews don't mention. I'm also looking forward to the 2025 Ridgeline. I hope they can update it!
I'm 6'5" and the Ridgeline is so uncomfortable for me. I weigh between 220-225 so it's not like I'm way overweight. I wish, hope, they just use the Pilot for doing the next truck.
Is there a rugged version ?
I was actually looking at a Passport and thought the exact same thing. It's good looking on the outside and rather spartan on the inside and you're absolutely correct about the lack of tech features that even a few subcompact CUVs offer is embarrassing and there's no excuse, I agree. So, as much as I like it, the Pilot is more money, but also more for the money. I think I'll check out that Venza now....🐰
Venza Is the same as a Camry
@chrissullivan5752 Actually, the FIRST Venza was built off of the Camry platform (AV10). The latest Venza has been built on the XU80 platform since 2020, and is a parts bin CUV with elements of the RAV-4 and the Lexus NX; neither of which are Camry-based.
@@1_Papa That’s probably what I was looking at because it was a couple years ago. I’ll have to check the new one out
I enjoyed the review but, no comments on those VCM issues seem an oversite.
VCM issues are a thing of the past
Nice neighborhood!
Very good and thorough review. Wish you would've included thoughts and opinions regarding engine/transmission pros, cons, common failures, reliability... Since the Passport is most likely due for a redesign and complete refresh in 2025, it would've been nice to hear what this generation got right and what the next generation needs to address, fix and or change in terms of engine and transmission. Not a critique or complaint, just wanted more of your thoughts regarding what's under the hood. Thankyou for sharing this helpful breakdown of the Passport.
The zf 9 speed has always had complaints. So if the new passport gets the pilots 10 speed it will be an improvement
David, it would be appreciated for manufacturers to give customers a choice to have Apple Car Play, or use a physical cable if that is preferred to connect the phone to the vehicle. Many customers prefer using only a cable, however, it would be nice to have a choice to be able to have Apple CarPlay, or the physical cable. My choice would be the Pilot for the additional storage area, Apple Car Play, and other Pilot features.
Call me crazy but I like the cable as sometimes on the fly my wife wants to take over the music from her phone lol
@@srm6130 Since you explain it that way, I see how a cable would work well in your situation. Would be easy to take turns sharing the music.
@@elizabethwhite4606 yes on my accord it’s wireless and we have to pull over to connect her phone if we want to change up the music
I don’t find it a major issue. I usually plug it in anyway.
I think the premium trim (2024 Passport Black Edition) has the wireless capability; plus, a few other functions like heated steering, heated rear seats, …
North American built 👎
Its my big issue when the vin doesn't start with J
Thanks, for the review. We a have a good friend who has a 2023 Passport and have rode in it with him this summer and fall. Compared to our 2019 CX-5 Signature it is roomier and nice, but it felt and looked spartan and leathers were stiff, not as comfortable or luxury feeling as our car. I found the shifter odd and like the traditional shift of the Mazda better. I also found the although roomier, the backseat was uncomfortable with a low seat height or high floor height. Overall the Mazda fits our needs well, it could use a little more back seat room but we don't have rear passengers very often. Still prefer the quality and luxury of the Mazda for the price.
Thanks, again for your reviews.
The only vehicles I’ve ever had paint problems with are Honda’s. Big, circular, flaky, cancerous-looking paint chips started bubbling up & falling off. I babied that Honda, too. Also, the transmission went out at 76k miles. There’s a reason that Toyota/Lexus are at the top of the charts 📊 in reliability (engineering) & Honda/Acura are not. It’s disappointing how much Honda/Acura have slipped over the last two decades. Also, Toyota/Lexus does not require manual valve adjustments. Honda needs to reinvent this as they produce more engines than any other car manufacturer. I’ve read/heard that they maybe doing this sooner than later.
Bought a new Passport Touring in April 2021. Absolutely love the powertrain. Not so much in love with the technology. The push button shifter is slow to respond compared to a mechanical system and the navigation is often lucky that I'm not holding a hammer in my hand when its most common response is .....Pardon?😂 Have an 06 Odyssey with 215k on it and it operates nearly as new. Change the timing belt myself and its not really that difficult for an average DIY mechanic.