I had a 2018 Subaru Outback 3.6r Touring that I regret trading in for a lease on a Hyundai Tucson Limited. When my lease is up I am getting another Outback! There is nothing that compares to it!
I was comparing cars such as Toyota, Honda Kia, & Nissan, in AWD system, price, options, Subaru came out on top. I'm now the proud owner of a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness, and I'm loving it !!!!! 🏆🏆SUBARU🏆🏆 Best Bang for your Buck 🤑💰
Car prices are ridiculous.....if money matters to you get a base outback gives you everything you need and nothing you dont...if money doesn't matter get what ever you want.
Honda's V-6 has always had a nice gnarly sound when you get on it, so can't agree there. But as far as the Subie having uninspired driving dynamics, and the Honda's lazy throttle, you are spot on
My household has owned 3 Outbacks (1 turbo, NO CVT!), 2 Foresters, and one Impreza wagon. The old Turbo with auto transmission was the best. Formidable acceleration and responsive steering. But every other model I've driven has jumpy CVT (yet i LOVE getting 30 MPG AVG!), and dismal steering feedback. I cannot keep the car straight and I don't know where's going! I've owned 25 cars and Subaru are the only ones that do that.
FYI, OB also has reclining rear seats. And to be clear, @ 16:57 ""Honda has 2 years included maintenance, you can't' get that with Subaru". Absolutely false. We got 2 years included maintenance on our 2015 OB when we bought it new, and also on our 24 OB we bought 3 weeks ago. Probably a regional thing. I'm in the Phoenix area.
No, the Outback is functionally a jacked up station wagon and Subaru's mid-sized SUV/CUV/Crossover or whatever you want to call this category. The Forester is a compact SUV and competes with the CR-V, RAV-4 and not the Passport.
I didn’t know you could turn that off for the first few months of having mine and only when it was off I understood what people were talking about when they liked Honda steering 😂
@@davewilson7602 the first legacy I test drove was awful. Couldn’t figure out why. Ended up with the one I have now and realized not long after I bought it that there was the difference.
Yeah I had it on while using the adaptive cruise control (which works great and will actually come to a complete stop) but I didn't like the auto steering. Just kept it off.
This is the second review I've watched by this person. It sounds like he's a schill for the car he prefers. Watch his video where he compared a $85k Mercedes to a $65k Volvo, and shocker, he likes the Mercedes. The Mercedes costs 25% MORE than the Volvo. Of course, he likes it better! How about if he's paying with his own money? In this "review", he complains about the engine of the Passport, but I think he had earplugs in when he revved the Outback because the Outback is no mouse. He talked about how great the steering is on the Passport (and it REALLY is) and how the Outback wallows (and it does, indeed). He complained because the Passport doesn't give him sufficient engine braking... WHAT?! I don't want my car to use its engine to slow me down. When I'm 2 blocks from a red light, I want to let my foot off the gas and just coast with the engine unstressed and unbraked. I get great gas mileage that way, and it reduces wear on the engine. If I want to slow down my car, I'll use my brakes. Brakes are cheap! I drove both. I bought the Passport. It has excellent steering, powerful engine, 5000 lbs towing, interior and headroom to spare and an I-VTM transmission. I think the Subaru Outback is an outstanding vehicle and might choose it for other reasons than why I picked the Passport but this reviewer's conclusion is nonsense. You can drive both and choose the one that works for you. You may like the Outback or you may like the Passport. You'll certainly like the price of the Subaru better.
The PP Trailsport has paddle shifters!! I use them all the time when descending the mountain passes that I have to travel over for work. Also, it’s very responsive if you put it in sport (S) mode but then your gas milage goes to crap.
I have an Outback Limited XT. I wish I had purchased the Honda. First, other than straight 100% highway driving, the Passport's real world mpg is better than that of the turbo mpg. I've spoken to dozens of XT owners. They average 17 - 18 around town. Further, there is no comparison regarding interior space and real world storage. The manufacturers specs don't translate into reality. The Outback has minimal front row places for pocket books, large drinks, phones, kleenex, etc. The maintenance is more expensive on the Outback due to the symmetrical full time AWD. The most redeeming feature of the Outback is the driver's thigh extension on the leather seat in the Limited and Touring trims only. Being tall, that's what swayed me to the Outback.
I just bought a 2024 touring XT and it has an all black interior option. We liked that better than the brown. I think the steering is great and no body roll while turning.
Literally cannot find any respectable car review outlet ever complain about the sound of Honda’s J35. There are several outlets, however, that complain about the rattling and grumbling noise of the Subaru boxer 4.
I have a 2016 Outback and I love it. I would love to get a new model at some point but I don't like the huge display, or that there are no buttons or nobs for the radio and temp controls and i especially don't like the camera in the car. It's bad enough that there's an onstar speaker in mine.
Test drove the new pilot. Nice vehicle, however the power is just so so transmission is to busy steering is loose and vague and brakes are squishy. Plus stereo stinks and not a fan of mixed gauge types.
Surprised about the OB steering, older Subarus never had that problem, if anything the opposite where they were too heavily weighted. I wonder if this is something that could be adjusted post production?
We have a new 2024 Outback Limited. The steering seems fine to my wife and to me. An other reviewer said the Outback steering wheel "has a little more play than they were used to, but it didn't affect driver control or performance." I don't know--I'll pay more attention to the steering.
Steering can be a little different with the driver assistance technology that helps keep you in your lane. If you tend to drive closer to one side than the other it corrects for that.
I love my Outback, I am on my second, and my current is the 2024. This is from a person who would formerly only buy Hondas. But.....still love my last Honda, the 2008 Pilot.
If you are planning on doing anything "off pavement" go with the Subaru. Obviously if you want to rock-crawl or bash around the big rocks you need a body-on-frame truck or 4x4 with real low range but for 90% of what people call "off roading" a Subaru is going to be just fine, much better than the rest of the crossovers it competes against. There is a reason Subarus are pretty much the only unibody vehicles you see parked at remote trailheads and pull offs in National Forest/federal land
My 31" tall, full-size dog crate, will NOT fit in the Outback. It fits like a charm in the Passport, due to the height of the hatch area. From that perspective, the Passport is a bit of an outlier, since the new Pilot, the new HRV, the Acura MDX, the Subaru Forester, the Subaru Ascent, the Acura RDX, the Mercedes Benz GLE450, the Mercedes Benz GLC300 etc would not fit the same dog crate either. So the big, tall, spacious rear of the Passport, is an "anomaly" and also a god-send. I also like the fact that it is a non-Turbo charged, naturally aspirated V6 engine, with a non-CVT true 9-speed transmission, unlike say the lower-end Honda CRV that has a CVT like the Outback.
The Passport is supposed to get the 10-speed automatic in 2025 like the one in the Pilot. I hear that is a much better transmission... much smoother and far less gear hunting.
I really like my 23 Outback. I will agree, though, that the roof rails create quite a bit of wind noise. I've only used them once to transport an old mattress to the recycle center. I'd rather not have them.
I have a 2020 outback xt limited and 2024 passport trails port. I like the Honda better in every aspect except fuel economy. The driving experience is much better in the passport. Outback has super soft and floaty suspension which is nice off road but not great on road. Honda engine sounds really good, not sure what this guy’s talking about. If I’m going on a long highway drive I would get in my outback. For any other drive on or off road I’d take the Honda.
The Subaru Outback is good for a single guy or a couple with no kids who like to haul a bunch of outdoor gear and kayaks etc . While the Honda passport is better for larger families obviously. Don’t understand why you compare a station wagon to a large suv
Subaru interior looks nicer than Honda especially the brown color leather. I wish Subaru has the optional V6 3.5L engine like Honda. My daily commute is a 2007 Odyssey and I do love that smooth V6 engine.
…and when comparing specs between two vehicles. If you start with the Honda on the left, keep the Honda on the left. Makes it difficult to keep track of which vehicles specs you are looking at.
I agree. Idk what he was complaining about on the loud transmission and engine noise that the passport was giving, when nothing sounds more annoying than a cvt.
Anyone that praises a CVT over a V6 loses credibilty as a car person in my opinion. You don't want to hear the engine when you rev it? Every other car reviewer out there praises that V6.
I agree and disagree, I agree with your thoughts (though blunt and harsh 😂) but everyone gets their own opinion. It’s cool to see a review that’s different from most, I showed to my fiancée and she prefers the Subaru sound also 🤷. She specifically said she doesn’t like the “intense sound” in the Passport lol. In general I think most of us who “care” about the vehicle and what’s under the hood (even just a little bit) will opt for the Honda. I’m waiting for the 2025 Passport refresh and planning to get that or a slightly used 2024!
I would take the Honda over the Subaru based on past Subie nightmares. The Honda J series 6 mated to a zf or Honda tranny is far superior to Subaru’s 2.4 dit boxer with a CVT. Hondas ergonomics are superior too with physical buttons for HVAC, Defrost, etc.; just try dealing with that ridiculous Subaru tablet at 70mph to change a setting. Maybe that’s why the redesign next year is going back to….buttons! Subaru cost cutting is prevalent; removed the acoustic glass on all trims (might explain one of the reasons their windshields shatter so easily but that recent class action settlement should help some owners out), doors are not insulated ditto for floorboard, a and b pillars, no memory seats except on the Touring trim-seriously?, Subaru’s conflicting CVT maintenance schedules on the same tranny-lifetime fill in the US of A but in Canada drain and fill just like in Japan, Australia, etc.. The Passport, Ridgeline may have a boring interior but they are highly engineered from the seats, levers, buttons, steering wheel and too many other points to list. The Honda is quiet too and at 70mph you can have a normal conversation without shouting. When the tranny in my wife’s Outback went at 43,000 miles just outside of warranty we were on our own to replace it. I have too many friends with similar stories between high dollar tranny repairs and failed eyesight systems to ever buy one again. Not sure why Subaru’s rate so high in CR. But to each their own buy what makes you happy just be informed.
Revs the Honda V6 engine and cringes to hear it. What is a big SUV supposed to sound like when stepping on it? An RC race car 😂
He probably drinks kombucha and eats kale
The Pilot sounds much better. Once they update the Passport drivetrain, it too should sound closer to the Pilot.
VTEC just kicked in yo
This is the best sound ever, wow! I love the sound of the J35 plus the VTEC kicking, just amazing 😂
@@sansin6250 no VTEC! the Vtec crossover at 5300 is the best
I had a 2018 Subaru Outback 3.6r Touring that I regret trading in for a lease on a Hyundai Tucson Limited. When my lease is up I am getting another Outback! There is nothing that compares to it!
My 2014 Outback hit 226k miles last week with only occasional headlight replacements
“Lord know Subaru driver would never use premium gas.”
Me hiding because I have a 2023 WRX that requires premium gas 😂😂😂
It's the WRX, you get a pass. 😄
We use 91 for our 2024 xt
Never heard anyone other than him complain about the J35 sound. It actually sounds fantastic at high rpm.
Stupid millennials, spoilt by quietness of Tesla 😆
Seriously. Ripping the J35 is one of the great joys of driving a VTEC engine.
He’s not a true car guy. Blocking the channel.
Exactly, he doesn’t know shit about cars
I have a PP and an Outback. PP is more versatile.
I was comparing cars such as Toyota, Honda Kia, & Nissan, in AWD system, price, options, Subaru came out on top. I'm now the proud owner of a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness, and I'm loving it !!!!! 🏆🏆SUBARU🏆🏆 Best Bang for your Buck 🤑💰
Car prices are ridiculous.....if money matters to you get a base outback gives you everything you need and nothing you dont...if money doesn't matter get what ever you want.
Before this review he already knew which vehicle he was going to favor..
He’s not a true car guy. He’s also the only car guy to ever complain about Vtec. Modern men are not the same anymore.
Honda's V-6 has always had a nice gnarly sound when you get on it, so can't agree there. But as far as the Subie having uninspired driving dynamics, and the Honda's lazy throttle, you are spot on
My household has owned 3 Outbacks (1 turbo, NO CVT!), 2 Foresters, and one Impreza wagon. The old Turbo with auto transmission was the best. Formidable acceleration and responsive steering. But every other model I've driven has jumpy CVT (yet i LOVE getting 30 MPG AVG!), and dismal steering feedback. I cannot keep the car straight and I don't know where's going! I've owned 25 cars and Subaru are the only ones that do that.
I have owned 6 different subaru and love the outback had 3 of them, keep it up Subaru.
Vtec plus no cvt for me.
Are you sure the passport wasn't in Eco mode? My GF CRV drives how you describe when In eco mode....
FYI, OB also has reclining rear seats.
And to be clear, @ 16:57 ""Honda has 2 years included maintenance, you can't' get that with Subaru". Absolutely false. We got 2 years included maintenance on our 2015 OB when we bought it new, and also on our 24 OB we bought 3 weeks ago. Probably a regional thing. I'm in the Phoenix area.
I just bought a 2024 OB Touring XT here in SoCal and we got the 2 year maint plan. Even includes brakes.
Not to call you out, but isn’t the outback a station wagon…..
Wouldn’t the comparison be better with Subaru’s actual SUV, the Forester?
No, the Outback is functionally a jacked up station wagon and Subaru's mid-sized SUV/CUV/Crossover or whatever you want to call this category.
The Forester is a compact SUV and competes with the CR-V, RAV-4 and not the Passport.
Your loose steering could be coming from lane keep assist. Turn that off and try again.
I didn’t know you could turn that off for the first few months of having mine and only when it was off I understood what people were talking about when they liked Honda steering 😂
@@davewilson7602 the first legacy I test drove was awful. Couldn’t figure out why. Ended up with the one I have now and realized not long after I bought it that there was the difference.
Yeah I had it on while using the adaptive cruise control (which works great and will actually come to a complete stop) but I didn't like the auto steering. Just kept it off.
So...where was the offroad comparison?
Are the alignments on the Outback okay? And the tire pressure?
STOP, FIRST OFF If you're going to use a Honda Trailsport Then you Should of Used The OBW !!!!
This is the second review I've watched by this person. It sounds like he's a schill for the car he prefers. Watch his video where he compared a $85k Mercedes to a $65k Volvo, and shocker, he likes the Mercedes. The Mercedes costs 25% MORE than the Volvo. Of course, he likes it better! How about if he's paying with his own money?
In this "review", he complains about the engine of the Passport, but I think he had earplugs in when he revved the Outback because the Outback is no mouse. He talked about how great the steering is on the Passport (and it REALLY is) and how the Outback wallows (and it does, indeed). He complained because the Passport doesn't give him sufficient engine braking... WHAT?! I don't want my car to use its engine to slow me down. When I'm 2 blocks from a red light, I want to let my foot off the gas and just coast with the engine unstressed and unbraked. I get great gas mileage that way, and it reduces wear on the engine. If I want to slow down my car, I'll use my brakes. Brakes are cheap!
I drove both. I bought the Passport. It has excellent steering, powerful engine, 5000 lbs towing, interior and headroom to spare and an I-VTM transmission. I think the Subaru Outback is an outstanding vehicle and might choose it for other reasons than why I picked the Passport but this reviewer's conclusion is nonsense. You can drive both and choose the one that works for you. You may like the Outback or you may like the Passport. You'll certainly like the price of the Subaru better.
Your car reviews are top notch and your opinions solid!👌
The PP Trailsport has paddle shifters!! I use them all the time when descending the mountain passes that I have to travel over for work. Also, it’s very responsive if you put it in sport (S) mode but then your gas milage goes to crap.
Outback for the WIN!!!🏆
Would be nice to have a non-biased video. Thanks.
I have an Outback Limited XT. I wish I had purchased the Honda. First, other than straight 100% highway driving, the Passport's real world mpg is better than that of the turbo mpg. I've spoken to dozens of XT owners. They average 17 - 18 around town. Further, there is no comparison regarding interior space and real world storage. The manufacturers specs don't translate into reality. The Outback has minimal front row places for pocket books, large drinks, phones, kleenex, etc. The maintenance is more expensive on the Outback due to the symmetrical full time AWD. The most redeeming feature of the Outback is the driver's thigh extension on the leather seat in the Limited and Touring trims only. Being tall, that's what swayed me to the Outback.
I just bought a 2024 touring XT and it has an all black interior option. We liked that better than the brown. I think the steering is great and no body roll while turning.
Literally cannot find any respectable car review outlet ever complain about the sound of Honda’s J35. There are several outlets, however, that complain about the rattling and grumbling noise of the Subaru boxer 4.
I have a 2016 Outback and I love it. I would love to get a new model at some point but I don't like the huge display, or that there are no buttons or nobs for the radio and temp controls and i especially don't like the camera in the car. It's bad enough that there's an onstar speaker in mine.
Pretty sure the passport doesn’t have wireless CarPlay
Outback❤
Test drove the new pilot. Nice vehicle, however the power is just so so transmission is to busy steering is loose and vague and brakes are squishy. Plus stereo stinks and not a fan of mixed gauge types.
Thank you for the video. Blessings to you.
Ground clearance always leads to a little sway and wobble.
I love my Subaru outback, my only issue with it is steering and infotainment system and stop and start
Surprised about the OB steering, older Subarus never had that problem, if anything the opposite where they were too heavily weighted. I wonder if this is something that could be adjusted post production?
I have a new 24 OB and the steering is great. Like a European Buick station from the 80s
We have a new 2024 Outback Limited. The steering seems fine to my wife and to me. An other reviewer said the Outback steering wheel "has a little more play than they were used to, but it didn't affect driver control or performance." I don't know--I'll pay more attention to the steering.
Steering can be a little different with the driver assistance technology that helps keep you in your lane. If you tend to drive closer to one side than the other it corrects for that.
I love my Outback, I am on my second, and my current is the 2024. This is from a person who would formerly only buy Hondas. But.....still love my last Honda, the 2008 Pilot.
The dated passport interior is what strayed me away from one.
If you are planning on doing anything "off pavement" go with the Subaru. Obviously if you want to rock-crawl or bash around the big rocks you need a body-on-frame truck or 4x4 with real low range but for 90% of what people call "off roading" a Subaru is going to be just fine, much better than the rest of the crossovers it competes against. There is a reason Subarus are pretty much the only unibody vehicles you see parked at remote trailheads and pull offs in National Forest/federal land
Honda V6 sing and roar well.
That was a loud cabin in the Subaru. They're not well insulated as a brand. They need to work on that
It’s a Subaru. Not a BMW.
@@ryanb8736 yeah we know but you can still make a nice insulated car
You don’t crap about cars bro
The passports of the 90's were made by izusu 😂
My 31" tall, full-size dog crate, will NOT fit in the Outback. It fits like a charm in the Passport, due to the height of the hatch area.
From that perspective, the Passport is a bit of an outlier, since the new Pilot, the new HRV, the Acura MDX, the Subaru Forester, the Subaru Ascent, the Acura RDX, the Mercedes Benz GLE450, the Mercedes Benz GLC300 etc would not fit the same dog crate either. So the big, tall, spacious rear of the Passport, is an "anomaly" and also a god-send. I also like the fact that it is a non-Turbo charged, naturally aspirated V6 engine, with a non-CVT true 9-speed transmission, unlike say the lower-end Honda CRV that has a CVT like the Outback.
The Passport is supposed to get the 10-speed automatic in 2025 like the one in the Pilot. I hear that is a much better transmission... much smoother and far less gear hunting.
I really like my 23 Outback. I will agree, though, that the roof rails create quite a bit of wind noise. I've only used them once to transport an old mattress to the recycle center. I'd rather not have them.
I have a 2020 outback xt limited and 2024 passport trails port. I like the Honda better in every aspect except fuel economy. The driving experience is much better in the passport. Outback has super soft and floaty suspension which is nice off road but not great on road. Honda engine sounds really good, not sure what this guy’s talking about. If I’m going on a long highway drive I would get in my outback. For any other drive on or off road I’d take the Honda.
Love my Passport far better that the Outback we had
Subaru headlights are wonderful the eyesight though goes out in heavy rain.
It does go out in heavy rain or fog but you can turn it off and still use the cruise control.
No way a cvt is a better transmission.
The Subaru Outback is good for a single guy or a couple with no kids who like to haul a bunch of outdoor gear and kayaks etc . While the Honda passport is better for larger families obviously. Don’t understand why you compare a station wagon to a large suv
Your bias is showing
Size matters
No, it's how you use it! 😁
Wow the cabin noise is bad on the Subaru. You can hear it on this video
Actually, I went from a 22 camry to a 21 outback, it's much quieter than the Camry, the Rav4 or any other car I test drove, including the Mazda !
@@loriwitkop1389 Mazda is quieter than a Subaru
@@dustinm8800 Mazda is also a lot less comfortable! ...
Honda needs to update their line. Their interiors are boring for the most part.
Outback takes the W in this comparison.
Subaru interior looks nicer than Honda especially the brown color leather.
I wish Subaru has the optional V6 3.5L engine like Honda. My daily commute is a 2007 Odyssey and I do love that smooth V6 engine.
This channel needs to work on their editing. The...lurching...way this...guy talks...is...annoying.
…and when comparing specs between two vehicles. If you start with the Honda on the left, keep the Honda on the left. Makes it difficult to keep track of which vehicles specs you are looking at.
Ill take my Suberu Touring XT any day over that Honda.
Yuck. Cvt. Why does anyone do that??!! They're all loud and groaning.
Cvt for me is a deal breaker. Always will be
I agree. Idk what he was complaining about on the loud transmission and engine noise that the passport was giving, when nothing sounds more annoying than a cvt.
@@tonystarks3-11 yep
Although the outdated graphics and CVT kill it for me? I'd take the OB out of these two. But Happy with our current STI and Audi S4.
Subaru definitely needs to update tech. Never has been their strong suit
If you think the Passport sounds awful, you should give up reviewing cars. I blocked your channel and others should as well.
I'm surprised how loud that engine is when you floor it in the Honda. Sounds terrible. Subaru was surprisingly quieter and it was loud enough.
Honda has got to work on that sound. That's terrible at full throttle
huh? J35 sounds fantastic at high rpm
Subaru sucks!!!!
Honda is quicker than the Subaru
Really
Anyone that praises a CVT over a V6 loses credibilty as a car person in my opinion. You don't want to hear the engine when you rev it? Every other car reviewer out there praises that V6.
Anyone that automatically despises when they hear CVT praise needs to get a life 😂
I agree and disagree, I agree with your thoughts (though blunt and harsh 😂) but everyone gets their own opinion.
It’s cool to see a review that’s different from most, I showed to my fiancée and she prefers the Subaru sound also 🤷. She specifically said she doesn’t like the “intense sound” in the Passport lol.
In general I think most of us who “care” about the vehicle and what’s under the hood (even just a little bit) will opt for the Honda. I’m waiting for the 2025 Passport refresh and planning to get that or a slightly used 2024!
I would take the Honda over the Subaru based on past Subie nightmares. The Honda J series 6 mated to a zf or Honda tranny is far superior to Subaru’s 2.4 dit boxer with a CVT. Hondas ergonomics are superior too with physical buttons for HVAC, Defrost, etc.; just try dealing with that ridiculous Subaru tablet at 70mph to change a setting. Maybe that’s why the redesign next year is going back to….buttons! Subaru cost cutting is prevalent; removed the acoustic glass on all trims (might explain one of the reasons their windshields shatter so easily but that recent class action settlement should help some owners out), doors are not insulated ditto for floorboard, a and b pillars, no memory seats except on the Touring trim-seriously?, Subaru’s conflicting CVT maintenance schedules on the same tranny-lifetime fill in the US of A but in Canada drain and fill just like in Japan, Australia, etc.. The Passport, Ridgeline may have a boring interior but they are highly engineered from the seats, levers, buttons, steering wheel and too many other points to list. The Honda is quiet too and at 70mph you can have a normal conversation without shouting. When the tranny in my wife’s Outback went at 43,000 miles just outside of warranty we were on our own to replace it. I have too many friends with similar stories between high dollar tranny repairs and failed eyesight systems to ever buy one again. Not sure why Subaru’s rate so high in CR. But to each their own buy what makes you happy just be informed.