Canon provided us with the incorrect pricing for the battery grips ahead of launch. The correct prices are below: BG-R20: $349 BG-R20EP: $499 CF-R20EP (the one with the fan): $399
Do you think there is a realistic chance that Canon will give us a firmware update enabling 8K oversampled 4K 60p? We had oversampled 4K60p years ago in the R5C and the competition has it but it is NOT in the new R5 Mark II? What a shame....I'm really disappointed in Canon to artificially cripple the R5 II in such a way. Hopefully, a firmware update will fix that!
Yeah you can buy a Nikon Z8 and their amazing 24-120mm f/4 S lens for $4399 right now. An arguably better camera and absolutely the better deal as the Nikon Z-mount 24-120mm is an amazing lens.
@@patricksmith2553 I was tempted by the Nikon Z system but when I held the Z6 and Z7 they felt a bit too like my Sony A7R III which ergonomically dug into my hand a bit, the Z8 looks great but I haven't held one. I'm not changing from Canon R5 anytime soon but I have a soft spot for Nikon because I loved the D750 and D810 If I was buying new I think the Z8 and 24-120 for that price would be an easy decision over a body only R5 II
Wow, there seems to be a lot of hating on these cameras. I'm a Nikon Z shooter so I'm only looking out of interest, but they seem pretty great to me. Maybe I'm just dumb, but both of the latest releases here would get me literally all of the photos I would ever attempt to get. If what people are hating is that the numbers on the specs are not bigger than they would like I think that is silly. These cameras will be so much more than what most photographers need. What is more important is do you love using them. Do they feel good in your hand. Are you excited to get out there and shoot with them. It's a real shame if specification statistics are making you not want to pick up your camera.
@@torngrasp this is a silly argument, specs are just a numerical representation of what the camera can do in comparison to one another. These cameras cost a lot of money. I’m sure if Canon listed the R5mii for $500 everyone would say it’s clearly the best camera at that price point. So it’s not the specs that people are upset with it’s the fact that this “capable” camera is more than other equivalently capable cameras.
As a Z8 owner, I wonder what makes you say that? I wouldn't ditch all my lenses and jump ship for it, but the R5 II definitely seems like the superior camera. From what I heard, the AF is best in class, 30 FPS RAW and Pre-Capture RAW, those are all things I'd pay extra for.
Crazy that both R5ii and R1 are such a let down. Really thought Canon had something in the bag to go against Sony. Im sorry but A1 that came out almost 4 years ago is still better, and A9iii is in a leauge of its own, R1 really feels more like R3 ii than a flagship. They havent offered anything new that prior cameras didnt already have... ESPECIALLY at that price point.
@@PetaPixel Do you think there is a realistic chance that Canon will give us a firmware update enabling 8K oversampled 4K 60p? We had oversampled 4K60p years ago in the R5C and the competition has it but it is NOT in the new R5 Mark II? What a shame....I'm really disappointed in Canon to artificially cripple the R5 II in such a way. Hopefully, a firmware update will fix that!
It’s give you the option for what kind of shorter you are don’t have to buy the 3 but definitely gives you the opportunity to customize accordingly to your needs. And at the end of the day, if you don’t need it, you don’t buy it.
I was waiting for this and ended up getting the panasonic S5 IIx instead even though I do photography primarily. So much cheaper and I don't need 8K. I think most folks will be happier with the Z8 in all aspects.
@@fjallmann same. I actually finally purchased the Lumix S5IIX the day Canon announced the R5 Mark II with that laughable price. People have to realize that if you want any good native Canon RF lenses, you're easily spending $6,000 to $8,000 between their overpriced L lenses. Canon played themselves by not allowing third-party lenses. I hope they lose a lot of the enthusiast crowd. I can see why professionals would stick with them if they're heavily invested in the Canon ecosystem.
Slower readout speed vs Nikon Z8. Video specs are identical with 8K/60 RAW, but you can get a mint Z8 for $2900 or $3499 new thus saving you anywhere from $800 or more.
I could see eye control af being a big deal for sports and wildlife but yeah, quite unexciting. I'm glad because I have zero upgrade desire, R5 is still perfect for me
Overall a very pedestrian set of improvements when compared to today's competition and ridiculously overpriced. Further exacerbated by Canon's anti competitive strategy of not offering third party lenses, forcing you to buy extremely overpriced Canon lenses. Hard pass
Perfect! Making the full disclosure VERY clear at the beginning of the video for any newbies who don't yet know your professionalism. We know you are required by law to disclose this, but not everyone makes it THAT clear.
@@GungKrisna12 they could be, question is how many people would be willing to pay it. Obviously if you want the specs and you already have lots of RF glass it will be a no brainer.
True, but then what more can a camera possibly do for stills portraiture photography? Do we not already have essentially the best camera its possible to make for that kind of work.
The vastly reduced rolling shutter giving the ability to use electronic shutter without distortion and artifacts is not a major feature? Having used ES on my R3, I would absolutely hate to have to go back to mechanical shutter with all its noise and vibrations.
@@willherondale6367I would like to see improved AF and improved focus on multiple subjects. The R5 does not pick up a multiple face af like the newer Sony does The eye AF is cool but I don’t think it’s a need for a camera I’d rather just have a better AF system with better tracking for single and multiple subjects
I have r5 mk1, but mk2 has a stacked backlit sensor better dynamic range and lowlight + the better autofocus and raw buffer. The latter i thought we would get in a firmware upgrade fornmk1 though. But all in all, as a hobby photographer that does little video the upgrade is not worth it for me at the current price
Shutter speeds now faster than 1/8000sec with the electronic shutter are very usefull if you shoot portraits with fast lenses (f/1.2 etc.) in bright, sunny conditions! I love this feature on my R3! So you don't need ND filters or have to stop down.
I don't know. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I'm not impressed. Sure, are great cameras, better than prior generation, but the competition offer similar goodies for far less price
Question for Jordan- how are the video assist features compared to a GH7? Will you still use the GH to produce videos or is the R5 mk II a viable candidate?
@@GiulioSciorio That's bad news about Canon sacking Rudy Winston. I'm hoping that it was done amicably and that Rudy has got a good pension? It will be difficult to replace his in depth knowledge and the way that he put over highly technical information in a user friendly way.
@@GiulioSciorio Not always. If I had to guess, I would say it is more likely than not that Canon has a retirement plan and not just some minor contribution match to a 401k.
@@GiulioSciorio If you're saying that you _know_ Canon doesn't offer a retirement plan, then I defer to your experience, Giulio. I was obviously speculating.
The R5 II is 30 fps where the z8 is only 20 fps in raw ... how is that slower? 🙄Also the Canon has waaaaay better AF (even the older Canons like the R6 II has way better AF than the z8) and the dynamic range especially for photos will also be way better. The z9 and z8 had noticeably worse dynamic range than even the old R5. The R5 II also has way better video than the z8.
@@77drisBro, I'm about to buy one and it was between the Z8 and the R5II, do you recommend the Canon, what about the lenses, does Canon have little variety?
dunno, it could actually be that the old batteries cannot discharge (pump out enough amps at their rated voltage) fast enough to keep the sensor/processor fed at thier highest data thoughput. it should be tested to be sure, you can't really know otherwise
That is the only thing Nikon has going for it the sensor readout speed of the Z8 is 4ms, the R5ii is somewhere around 6 ms might be less but that's it... 2ms doesn't make a whole lot of difference.. And Canon R5 ii has a Mechanical shutter which is of course a 4ms readout speed as well..
As my occasional assistant said to me the other day. The rumoured specs don't look that different to the R5 (which is an excellent camera). This seems to be the thing. Yes, I am sure the R5II is going to be better then the R5, and the R1 is going to be better than the R3, but the differences I can't see that many photographers going, 'wow' I need to get these.
I mean photography tech is basically maxed out. The most important thing is autofocus and the R5II and R1 have the best on the planet right now. Video is where there are huge upgrades and that is what seems to sell these days.
@@77dris How do you figure that the tech is nearly "maxed out"? Like I understand there are laws of physics but I am just not seeing it. Can you explain your reasoning?
@@dominator2117 It’s maxed out in the sense that everything takes great photos. No one can see a few megapixels here or there if the photographer is good
@@77drisyou mean Canon’s technology is maxed out. The other brands seem to be pulling ahead. Nikon said screw it and put a Sony sensor and look how well that turned out. Canon at this point should just accept reality. A better Sony sensor in these Cameras would make them beasts. Instead they’ll try to keep it in house and slowly fall behind milking their user base as they go down.
Everyone is saying the R5 II is the true flagship over the R1. The narrative is the R1 is more like a R3 II. May be sports photographers don't need more than 24MP, but not for wildlife, at least not for birds. If the AF is virtually the same or may be just tad off the R1, I would take the R5 II. But, since I already have the R5, I don't think the R5 II has enough for me to want to upgrade to. Honestly, if Canon were to put the R5 II specs into the R1 uni-grip body with the 2 x CFexpress Type B card slots, that might be worth it for many R5 users to upgrade to.
@@lesnayalesichka Just not super excited about it. For US$3.8K, I could put it towards my HiFi system. May be get a really decent DAC or upgrade my SACD/CD transport. But, that's just me.😃
It's so cool to see Chris and Jaron side by side shooting an event @ 0:44. Not a view we see very often! Also, great to see them name the battery after Petapixel. Great marketing!
Hi C&J, questions for the full review: • Does the stack sensor change affect DR? How does it compare vs A7RV, D8? • Is the in camera up res and NR better than software options? • how does in camera up res compare to R5 pixel shift and A7RV pixel shift in terms of producing high res, cleaner, better colour images? (For static subjects) Thank you!
The DR question is a critical one for me. The R3's stacked sensor didn't seem to affect its DR performance. Hopefully that is true with the R5 II as well. If it turns out that Canon has produced a Nikon Z6 III in terms of DR, it's game over as far as I'm concerned. I will never accept reduced DR in favor of readout speed. As far as the other questions go, I don't know why Canon wastes R&D on functionality that is better done on a computer. There are so many other things they could be focused on.
I have both A7RV and R5M1 A7RV AF always struggle in low light and low contrast A7RV viewfinder performs badly (noisy, laggy, poor output quality especially low light) A7RV read out and FPS is slow A7RV in camera long exposure NR will take 2nd shoot (30s than another 30s omg) that I really dont like A7RV tilting mon is nice A7RV has wider choice of lens A7RV has more customizable buttons/dials A7RV 61MP is nice
@@ian2nekoMore than anything else, I was disappointed that the R5 II didn’t something similar to the A7R5’s rear LCD. It is a superior design with no downside.
@@timothylinn yes, and some simple software features that are user friendly missing in R5 I (hopefully R5 II has it): -+ 5EV exposure compensation M mode extending shutter up to 900s instantly closing shutter on shutdown
5:44 still shows IBIS wobbles at 26mm. I was really hoping Canon would fix this issue. Its a bit of a dealbreaker for me which is a bummer because I was really excited about Clog2 and the potential DR improvements over the original R5.
As an R3 owner, the megapixel count is why I'm going with the R3 over the R1 (along with the improved video features). The R1 feels like it falls short as a replacement for my R3 whereas the R5MKII feels like a welcome addition.
Canon is just so boring. I say that as an owner. When I switched from fujifilm, I’m not sure what I was thinking. I didn’t think the closed mount would affect me, but realized over last year I spent 10,000 on lenses that can only be used on the canon none of my other cameras. I would happily sell my stuff. I just hate to lose this much money.
I came from X-T3 to R5 and don't regret it. I also got much better lenses with the ability to use anything EF mount. Sure, they are expensive but so far I think it has been worth it. 28-70/2, light and compact 70-200/2.8, the ultimate telephoto 100-500, the 1.2 primes and so on.
@@DrpftnstSony lens work on Nikon with a small adapter that you can barely even notice. You get the use all the features like auto focus, programmable buttons, aperture rings, etc.
Очередной нытик! 🤦Я уже 24 года снимаю на Canon, и меня всё более чем устраивает! Продай систему и перейти на Sony, и ты ныть будешь гораздо сильнее! 😁 Поверь, многие обожглись. А Canon - отличная компания, которая,выпускает отличные камеры!
No one care for the 8k, give us some great 4k up to 120fps. The line skipped image is going to be soft and prone to aliasing. The Z8 is much more complete for video.
The Sony A7RV can do 61MP not 45MP, does 16bit output, has a 9.44m dot EVF not 5.76m dot EVF, has a fully articulating screen, dual CF express and SD card slots not just one CF express and one SD, is $800 cheaper and 2 1/2 years old. And you can basically get the same images quality from the A7CR for $3000. Now does are there some things that would make the R5mii better? Sure. But that assumes Sony and Nikon aren’t going to update their cameras that are now years old. This camera is average at best now and will be far behind the competition in a year.
Mechanical shutter is a big advantage over the Z8 and Z9 for some flash applications. Both of those cameras exhibit banding with high speed sync flash.
I can't believe they didn't include 8K oversampled 4K 60p I'm extremely disappointed in Canon. STILL ONLY oversampled 4K30p. The R5C offered 8K oversampled 4K at 60fps and so does the Nikon Z8. Canon didn't even match their own R5C...
@@77dris No, Canon decided to ARTIFICIALLY CRIPPLE the specs of the R5 Mark II in a last-minute move. This is a really bad look! EVEN all the Canon Germany employees at the presentation were surprised and even the first press release stated that the R5 Mark II would feature 4K60p oversampled from 8K. I linked the video of the German RUclipsr who attended the official Canon presentation. He talks about it starting from minute 21:06 until 22:10 and he. It's in German but you can read the original press release which is in English (he shows it at minute 21:28). This was what Canon originally put out but they changed course last minute surprising even their own employees. ruclips.net/video/GOuqv4x99Uo/видео.htmlsi=kto346VoMpeBBIlU&t=1288 This is an extremely frustrating move by Canon. Artificially crippling a camera is a really bad look. This was one of the most important features to me and while I love everything else I'll have to go for the Nikon Z8 which offers 8K oversampled 4K60p. Unless we can convince Canon to release a firmware update enabling this feature. Their image processor CAN handle 4K60p oversampled from 8K as the R5C has proven!!! I'm very disappointed as this is a dealbreaker for me.
Perhaps too much heat and processing power, I mean the 4K HQ mode in R5 was the most demanding one already. But why bother when you can record in 8K and process it in post?
@@jan.tichavsky Well, the competition can do it. The years-old R5C can do it. There is no excuse for Canon not to include it in the R5 Mark II. Recording in 8K oversampled 4K60p or recording in 8K60p RAW is arguably a huge difference. It's sometimes simply impractical to shoot in 8K RAW. And once again. The competition offers 8K oversampled 4K60p so there isn't really an excuse. I'm really disappointed.
Right from point one, if the readout speed is slower than the Z8 then this camera is a fail. The rest of it looks like a me too product next to the Z8, but you don't get access to Z glass. Good luck moving volume at $4300. This will see substantial discounts very soon.
I mean, why? There is no rolling shutter at all. LOL. And z glass is inferior to RF glass... plus you can access all the EF lenses too and unlike with Nikon (or Sony), Canon's adapted system works just as well as native glass.
@@77drisalso from all your comments in every video related to these 2 cameras, apparently we are all stupid as fuck and you seem to know it all and better than anyone else in this industry
I find the change interesting. Canon was always ahead of Nikon in terms of technology, but since Nikon's Z series, that has completely reversed. If I had to guess who is most likely to close down their camera division, I would guess Canon. They are continuing to play their ridiculous game of passing on features to lower manufacturers and not accepting lenses from other manufacturers. Who really cares?
It has all these excellent features, but does it have one of the most simple features that has been found on even cheap cameras from other brands for over a decade (that has been missing from most Canon cameras)? That is, can you keep the horizon level on during recording video? It may seem silly, but this one feature will decide whether I purchase one or not. I know it has some self-leveling IBIS thing, but that isn't what I'm asking. I just want to be able to make the camera level myself, because I can see the level on the screen. Any clue if it can do that?
I think most experienced shooters have developed a good sense of balance/eye that such a feature isn't required. I've never had an issue a level horizon. My Sony has a feature to show balanced horizon, have tried putting it on a few times just to see - more of a distraction than aid from my experience.
Until Canon opens the RF mount to third party makers, the brand is dead to me. I get why they’d focus on high-end glass with a new mount; they are serving the professional market. Even the limited opening on the RF-S mount, too little to late for Canon on APS-C; they shouldn’t have forgotten that sensor size in the EF mount days. I started with Canon; I want to like Canon, but it’s hard to support them with the way they are approaching the market. They make a good product, but do they really want to be the “Apple” of the camera industry? Sure seems it.
I have a technical question on the 30fps cripple while using the older batteries. My thinking is that since 24fps is not half of the 60Hz refresh rate that it requires more processing power. I remember 24fps being a big achievement when Lucas was working with Sony on digital Cinema cameras. Am I over complicating this in my thinking? Is it as simple as the sensor capturing 6 less frames and packing them into a video file, is it more taxing on the system to algorithmically alter the sensor’s native refresh rate, or is this all a ploy by Canon to sell more batteries? Thanks to anyone with an answer.
Like the Z8 the R5 mkii ticks all the boxes for an all round camera for pro’s. As amateur l am appreciating the compactness of my OM-1 mkii. It’s smaller, yet offering razor sharp fast lenses, for less weight, smaller size and far less money.
This camera really pissed me off guys. Therefore, I will leave a second comment. The thing is that I don't see at all why I should pay that kind of money compared to the current price of the first R5. 4 years have passed, and there are practically no improvements or they are minor. When the first R5 came out it was a big event and a leap for Canon. But now it's just another update. It's as if the iPhone just got a little better. But not in a year, but in 4 years.
The video frame grab information that you guys talked about yesterday on your panel and stated it was in 1080p is not correct. Canon'a website states that an 8k image can be taken by pressing the shutter button while recording video. Not simply 1080p
😂 Jealous of what? Lack of innovation, horrible feel and look of the camera, overpricing? My old nikon d3400 has a better image than these new canon plastic toys. Are you really shooting in 8k? Useless garbage
It feels like there will be an R5C II - or another C-something based on this with a fan inside and a little more video tricks. And at the same time there won't, we can get a fan. It's weird. Waiting for more on the 4K S-Raw analysis because the moire in CVP's preview was scary.
Canon firmwares are always very stable when a new camera is released! My R6 and R5 still have their first firmware 1.1.0 from 2020 and they both work flawless and perfect since almost four years now with more than 100,000 shots!
That r5 mark ii fits my needs as a sports photographer and fine art printing, that 30 fps would be so nice for volleyball and the 4k oversampling would be awesome for my video endevours. I see this as the best option because the only competition in my mind is the z8 and a1 because the a7rv just wouldnt be able to keep up with my sports stuff. And the nikon has good glass its just the 70-200 isnt great for moving as fast as i want to and there isnt a 28-70. I dont need an open mount cause i only need 2 to 4 lenses and canon has good glass. Plus i hate compressing my photos cause i am a data hoarder and i can always buy another 8 tb for 100 bucks
Always exited to see new video features, also me watching most youtube videos on my computer in 480p to save on CO2 emission. Hey at least we got the choice
I am glad they've released a new camera, but I must admit that I am happier that probably the price on the mk1 will now drop and I can finally afford it! :)
I would really like to buy the r5 mkii, but I can’t find information anywhere whether Canon has finally enabled focus bracketing with a flash :( I mainly work in macro photography and this function should have been available in cameras for $4000+ for a long time.
Thank you for the video. Very useful. One comment though: there is one screen saying: 5.76M Dot EVF (1600x1200). But 1600x1200 is about 1.9 million not 5.76 million. And 1600x1200 is 4x3 aspect ratio not 3x2.
So $4299, plus $500-$730 grips 😂 typical Canon product. Huge price for nothing groundbreaking. All hype and they deliver a huge price tag. Just read what Canon shooters are saying on the forum. Both cameras are a massive disappointment, and many are actually leaving Canon altogether for Nikon or Sony.
Please review the "Capture video and stills simultaneously with no interruption." in final review. How it compare to competitor or other Canon? Also again: Hi res mode. Does it like any other brand? Or does it really new inovation that can be used in most normal situation hand held? --> it has been a bit showen in R1 video
@@HokgiartoSaliem if you shoot video at 1080p. The sills will be electronic shutter only and at the shutter you are capturing the video. It’s a pointless trick when you can extract 8K frame from an 8K raw video.
I'm also interested in the hires mode and I mead pixel shift, not the upscaling nonsense. The original R5 was pretty bad because you need sturdy tripod and absolutely no movement in the image to have good result. Anything with water is a no go.
How much !! The prices have now reached such a silly level they have priced out casual photographers. I could literally buy a pretty good car for that money…
That was always the case. I mean, were you also outraged that the 1DS launched for $8000 (equivalent to $13,550 in 2023) back in the day? In my country the suggested price for R5 II is actually slightly lower than for R5 launch. I will see if it holds.
@@jan.tichavsky The 1D series were always ridiculously priced but they were Canons very top tier cameras that were aimed at working professionals. The 5D series were always below that and were always obtainable by the serious amateur. They USED to be obtainable. However at £4.3k where as Fuji and and Olympus and I am sure many other brands have competing cameras priced at around £1500-£1700 its hardly a surprise they are going to get few camera sales until second hand sales perhaps become a thing.
What an amazing camera. I’ve got the R5, but I think Amazon Prime day 2027 when the R5II is like $1000 off is the time to buy. When the dust settles, please get Jordan to do a “waveforms for dummies” video?
I just bought a 5D mk1 "Classic" for $200 and remembered that, allowing for inflation over 19 years, the 5D mk1 was way more expensive at launch than this R5 mk2. The 5D basically takes (beautiful) 13Mp images and that's it. It's fundamentally just a film camera with a sensor stuck in. The sheer amount of progress, technically, in 19 years to give us the R5mk2, for less money than the 5D is extraordinary. 8K video, 8 stops of IBIS, 40 frames a second, eye controlled auto focus !!!! I can't afford one, but the way things work out it will be $1,000 in a few years. Until then I'll hang on to my 5D, 5D-SR & 6D.
@@johnny_blz because it's frickin big and heavy for travel and people don't like if you show up with a pro camera on the streets, but they smile when they see a retro style or film camera.
The problem is, you can buy a 10 year old camera and it has enough features to get to know for the next 10 years. Cameras today are already overloaded with features. At certain point, too many features becomes a drain to learn and figure out. Today a typical camera has 50 modes for focusing to choose from and another 30 metering options, all kinds of secondary functions button to overload your senses and make your head spin. And then you need a special book, and 8 more hours of youtube videos to understand what each mode is designed to do, and in which scenarios to activate one mode over another.
Canon provided us with the incorrect pricing for the battery grips ahead of launch. The correct prices are below:
BG-R20: $349
BG-R20EP: $499
CF-R20EP (the one with the fan): $399
Do you think there is a realistic chance that Canon will give us a firmware update enabling 8K oversampled 4K 60p? We had oversampled 4K60p years ago in the R5C and the competition has it but it is NOT in the new R5 Mark II? What a shame....I'm really disappointed in Canon to artificially cripple the R5 II in such a way.
Hopefully, a firmware update will fix that!
I was going to say - those were insane prices for grips.
Was about to say those prices were outrageous 😂
seems to be BG-R10 still supported
they try to sell it higher first but unsuccessful
My favorite feature on the R5 Mark II is the price drop on the R5 Mark I.
Enjoy, I will be selling mine as soon as I get the mark II.
@@jan.tichavsky enjoy your useless JPG denoiser and crappy ballsports AF for 2K
Yeah you can buy a Nikon Z8 and their amazing 24-120mm f/4 S lens for $4399 right now. An arguably better camera and absolutely the better deal as the Nikon Z-mount 24-120mm is an amazing lens.
@@patricksmith2553 I was tempted by the Nikon Z system but when I held the Z6 and Z7 they felt a bit too like my Sony A7R III which ergonomically dug into my hand a bit, the Z8 looks great but I haven't held one. I'm not changing from Canon R5 anytime soon but I have a soft spot for Nikon because I loved the D750 and D810
If I was buying new I think the Z8 and 24-120 for that price would be an easy decision over a body only R5 II
Best feature of these two cameras
Wow, there seems to be a lot of hating on these cameras. I'm a Nikon Z shooter so I'm only looking out of interest, but they seem pretty great to me. Maybe I'm just dumb, but both of the latest releases here would get me literally all of the photos I would ever attempt to get. If what people are hating is that the numbers on the specs are not bigger than they would like I think that is silly. These cameras will be so much more than what most photographers need. What is more important is do you love using them. Do they feel good in your hand. Are you excited to get out there and shoot with them. It's a real shame if specification statistics are making you not want to pick up your camera.
@@torngrasp this is a silly argument, specs are just a numerical representation of what the camera can do in comparison to one another. These cameras cost a lot of money.
I’m sure if Canon listed the R5mii for $500 everyone would say it’s clearly the best camera at that price point.
So it’s not the specs that people are upset with it’s the fact that this “capable” camera is more than other equivalently capable cameras.
It's the value proposition given the incremental benefits. Canon jacked up the price $300 just days before the announcement.
@@torngrasp stick to Nikon. Z8 is better than R5ii
I've been working in sports and photojournalism with an R5 almost since its release, and I am thrilled this R5mk2 is this good for my objectives here!
This just makes the Z8 so much more appealing.
Especially as the R5 II yet again has a screen for vloggers, not photographers. Z8 does both. Usability over ridiculous frame rates any day!
..and the R5 I for 2.5K new
At least the Canon has mechanical shutter 🥲
@@petouserbecause it has a slower sensor. “Only” 12 fps with mechanical shutter. The Z8 doesn’t need one. That’s the difference.
As a Z8 owner, I wonder what makes you say that?
I wouldn't ditch all my lenses and jump ship for it, but the R5 II definitely seems like the superior camera. From what I heard, the AF is best in class, 30 FPS RAW and Pre-Capture RAW, those are all things I'd pay extra for.
Now it´s so easy to stick with my R5 Mark I for many years to come. Thank you Canon
What did you expect from the MK II?
@@heiner71 Canon R5 II in 2024 should be at least up to Sony A1 level.
Crazy that both R5ii and R1 are such a let down. Really thought Canon had something in the bag to go against Sony. Im sorry but A1 that came out almost 4 years ago is still better, and A9iii is in a leauge of its own, R1 really feels more like R3 ii than a flagship. They havent offered anything new that prior cameras didnt already have... ESPECIALLY at that price point.
the ai af system isn't new enough?
@@kevc.2958 cameras had that for years now. They are just playing catch up, no inovation.
The prices on those extra grips are insane.
The prices that Canon gave us were incorrect it turns out. The correct prices:
BG-R20: $349
BG-R20EP: $499
CF-R20EP (the one with the fan): $399
@@PetaPixel Okay. That's a little better. I about fell off my chair when I saw the earlier prices.
@@GarrettLucasWV Oh, us too. We were flabbergasted.
@@PetaPixel Do you think there is a realistic chance that Canon will give us a firmware update enabling 8K oversampled 4K 60p? We had oversampled 4K60p years ago in the R5C and the competition has it but it is NOT in the new R5 Mark II? What a shame....I'm really disappointed in Canon to artificially cripple the R5 II in such a way.
Hopefully, a firmware update will fix that!
It’s give you the option for what kind of shorter you are don’t have to buy the 3 but definitely gives you the opportunity to customize accordingly to your needs. And at the end of the day, if you don’t need it, you don’t buy it.
I was waiting for this and ended up getting the panasonic S5 IIx instead even though I do photography primarily. So much cheaper and I don't need 8K. I think most folks will be happier with the Z8 in all aspects.
@@fjallmann same. I actually finally purchased the Lumix S5IIX the day Canon announced the R5 Mark II with that laughable price. People have to realize that if you want any good native Canon RF lenses, you're easily spending $6,000 to $8,000 between their overpriced L lenses. Canon played themselves by not allowing third-party lenses. I hope they lose a lot of the enthusiast crowd. I can see why professionals would stick with them if they're heavily invested in the Canon ecosystem.
Это только ты так думаешь. Думаешь и ошибаешься! Впрочем, всегда так, но практика показывает обратное! 😀
Slower readout speed vs Nikon Z8. Video specs are identical with 8K/60 RAW, but you can get a mint Z8 for $2900 or $3499 new thus saving you anywhere from $800 or more.
It's an iterative improvement that's hard to be excited about with the $4,299 price tag.
This will be almost 5k euros in europe. Vs 4k euros for z8 with grip.
I could see eye control af being a big deal for sports and wildlife but yeah, quite unexciting. I'm glad because I have zero upgrade desire, R5 is still perfect for me
Overall a very pedestrian set of improvements when compared to today's competition and ridiculously overpriced. Further exacerbated by Canon's anti competitive strategy of not offering third party lenses, forcing you to buy extremely overpriced Canon lenses. Hard pass
@@windriver456 I mean, it's better than the competiton (z8, A1) and it's the same price (z8) or cheaper (A1) than the competition...
In my EU country the R5 II price is actually lower than R5 launch price so I can't complain.
Perfect! Making the full disclosure VERY clear at the beginning of the video for any newbies who don't yet know your professionalism. We know you are required by law to disclose this, but not everyone makes it THAT clear.
Damn, now Nikon officially wins the Legendary battle between Canon and Nikon.
@@Gu9udan24 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Cute...
your grandma must be stoked :)
@@DamianHanley239 😂
@@DamianHanley239 good ratio
Similar but not better specs than Z8, yet the price is a lot higher to what Z8 can be had for today… just saying 🤷♂️
Which is also, well...
A press camera
@@mytrollchildren6715 I’m talking about not surpassing the competition while charging a premium
@@LiveMyJourneyTomMaybe they charge a premium for eye control AF
@@GungKrisna12 they could be, question is how many people would be willing to pay it. Obviously if you want the specs and you already have lots of RF glass it will be a no brainer.
Z8 is cheap is because Nikon have to fight the market share lost to Sony.
R5ii is a better hybrid than Z8
There seems to be absolutely zero incentive to get this over the R5 as a stills portrait shooter, which is great because I'll be saving some $$'s
True, but then what more can a camera possibly do for stills portraiture photography? Do we not already have essentially the best camera its possible to make for that kind of work.
The vastly reduced rolling shutter giving the ability to use electronic shutter without distortion and artifacts is not a major feature? Having used ES on my R3, I would absolutely hate to have to go back to mechanical shutter with all its noise and vibrations.
@@willherondale6367I would like to see improved AF and improved focus on multiple subjects.
The R5 does not pick up a multiple face af like the newer Sony does
The eye AF is cool but I don’t think it’s a need for a camera I’d rather just have a better AF system with better tracking for single and multiple subjects
I have r5 mk1, but mk2 has a stacked backlit sensor better dynamic range and lowlight + the better autofocus and raw buffer. The latter i thought we would get in a firmware upgrade fornmk1 though. But all in all, as a hobby photographer that does little video the upgrade is not worth it for me at the current price
Shutter speeds now faster than 1/8000sec with the electronic shutter are very usefull if you shoot portraits with fast lenses (f/1.2 etc.) in bright, sunny conditions!
I love this feature on my R3!
So you don't need ND filters or have to stop down.
I don't know. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I'm not impressed. Sure, are great cameras, better than prior generation, but the competition offer similar goodies for far less price
Question for Jordan- how are the video assist features compared to a GH7? Will you still use the GH to produce videos or is the R5 mk II a viable candidate?
Rudy’s last gig before Canon axed him (and likely messed up his retirement)
@@GiulioSciorio That's bad news about Canon sacking Rudy Winston.
I'm hoping that it was done amicably and that Rudy has got a good pension?
It will be difficult to replace his in depth knowledge and the way that he put over highly technical information in a user friendly way.
@@PartisanZoya1941pensions have been gone for decades. It’s likely they let Rudy go to save money and that’s all
@@GiulioSciorio Not always. If I had to guess, I would say it is more likely than not that Canon has a retirement plan and not just some minor contribution match to a 401k.
@@timothylinn My comments come from my experience as one who worked closely with camera and accessory companies for years
@@GiulioSciorio If you're saying that you _know_ Canon doesn't offer a retirement plan, then I defer to your experience, Giulio. I was obviously speculating.
The launch of these two cameras has been like opening your Christmas presents and finding out everyone gave you socks.
😂😂😂😂
r5 ii is better than I thought but the r1 is worse than I thought lol pretty much an r3 ii
Nice update. Not excited about the price increase.
The R5 was $3900 at launch in 2020. If you adjust for inflation, that'd be $4700 in 2024 dollars. So, not really a price bump.
I think it's still the cheapest camera with a stacked sensor
@@falxonPSN You forgot Japanese Yen is in toilet now.
canon’s answer to the Z8 ($3496 USD) but a lot more expensive and tad bit slower
Are we pretending that the autofocus system in the Z8 is on par with this camera?
The R5 II is 30 fps where the z8 is only 20 fps in raw ... how is that slower? 🙄Also the Canon has waaaaay better AF (even the older Canons like the R6 II has way better AF than the z8) and the dynamic range especially for photos will also be way better. The z9 and z8 had noticeably worse dynamic range than even the old R5. The R5 II also has way better video than the z8.
@@80-80. you'll still get the shots for $800 less.
@@77drisBro, I'm about to buy one and it was between the Z8 and the R5II, do you recommend the Canon, what about the lenses, does Canon have little variety?
The best feature is how the Z8 is $800 cheaper.
You can get a minty used Z8 for $2900 and get a great 2.8 S lens. The Z8 still has a faster readout speed as well.
@@autoexoticswestcoast You don't even need a 2.8 lens anymore with how good ISO control is on the Z8 and modern tools like DxO/Topaz/LR.
and the Lumix G9ii is £1000 cheaper than the Z8...
@@JoeMaranophotography ew no
@@scotttucker9613 haha your loss 😆
8K only with new batteries? That sounds like artificial software limits again xD
dunno, it could actually be that the old batteries cannot discharge (pump out enough amps at their rated voltage) fast enough to keep the sensor/processor fed at thier highest data thoughput.
it should be tested to be sure, you can't really know otherwise
@@salmiakki5638 Maybe yes, with a stacked sensor and more advanced AF features, it's probably hungrier on battery power.
Only sounds like it if you are deaf. See other comments on the matter.
I think they mean 8k60fps which this camera is capable of. 8k30fps you can do on the old batteries still
Pray for some third party guys did a grip wich will holds cheap NP-Fs to feed a R5/R6/R6ll/R5ll/R5C
WTH 4300$ !!! With slower sensor than Nikon z8 ?
Are you sure Z8 is faster? 20fps RAW in Z8, 30fps in R5ii. No gimmick like Sony a1 30fps.
@@zegzbrutal sensor readout, yes the Z8 is faster
@@zegzbrutal Readout speed and burst rate are two different things.
That is the only thing Nikon has going for it the sensor readout speed of the Z8 is 4ms, the R5ii is somewhere around 6 ms might be less but that's it... 2ms doesn't make a whole lot of difference.. And Canon R5 ii has a Mechanical shutter which is of course a 4ms readout speed as well..
Otherwise the Canon R5 II surpasses the Z8 in every regard... AF, burst speed, video, IBIS and more..
Sadly it still overheats without the grip 😥
Kolari guys fixed an overheating issue with a copper heatsink on R5, hope they'll do the same on Mark2
As my occasional assistant said to me the other day. The rumoured specs don't look that different to the R5 (which is an excellent camera). This seems to be the thing. Yes, I am sure the R5II is going to be better then the R5, and the R1 is going to be better than the R3, but the differences I can't see that many photographers going, 'wow' I need to get these.
I mean photography tech is basically maxed out. The most important thing is autofocus and the R5II and R1 have the best on the planet right now. Video is where there are huge upgrades and that is what seems to sell these days.
@@77dris How do you figure that the tech is nearly "maxed out"? Like I understand there are laws of physics but I am just not seeing it. Can you explain your reasoning?
@@77dris just wish it had the DGO sensor dang.
@@dominator2117 It’s maxed out in the sense that everything takes great photos. No one can see a few megapixels here or there if the photographer is good
@@77drisyou mean Canon’s technology is maxed out. The other brands seem to be pulling ahead.
Nikon said screw it and put a Sony sensor and look how well that turned out. Canon at this point should just accept reality. A better Sony sensor in these Cameras would make them beasts. Instead they’ll try to keep it in house and slowly fall behind milking their user base as they go down.
Is the dynamic range better than the original?
Curious between the R5ii and R1 which camera has the best Dynamic Range??
Everyone is saying the R5 II is the true flagship over the R1. The narrative is the R1 is more like a R3 II. May be sports photographers don't need more than 24MP, but not for wildlife, at least not for birds. If the AF is virtually the same or may be just tad off the R1, I would take the R5 II. But, since I already have the R5, I don't think the R5 II has enough for me to want to upgrade to. Honestly, if Canon were to put the R5 II specs into the R1 uni-grip body with the 2 x CFexpress Type B card slots, that might be worth it for many R5 users to upgrade to.
it could be good enough for upgrade for 3600-3800$
@@lesnayalesichka Just not super excited about it. For US$3.8K, I could put it towards my HiFi system. May be get a really decent DAC or upgrade my SACD/CD transport. But, that's just me.😃
Phoenix in the middle of summer? Definitely saving some money that way.
Yeah, but they put them up at the Biltmore, so I don't think savings were the main goal for Canon
Finally Clog2, interested for video
ANd 8K 60p raw video, the best of both worlds.
And overheat problems still there 😂😂
It's so cool to see Chris and Jaron side by side shooting an event @ 0:44. Not a view we see very often! Also, great to see them name the battery after Petapixel. Great marketing!
Hi C&J, questions for the full review:
• Does the stack sensor change affect DR? How does it compare vs A7RV, D8?
• Is the in camera up res and NR better than software options?
• how does in camera up res compare to R5 pixel shift and A7RV pixel shift in terms of producing high res, cleaner, better colour images? (For static subjects)
Thank you!
Great questions. I want to know this too
The DR question is a critical one for me. The R3's stacked sensor didn't seem to affect its DR performance. Hopefully that is true with the R5 II as well. If it turns out that Canon has produced a Nikon Z6 III in terms of DR, it's game over as far as I'm concerned. I will never accept reduced DR in favor of readout speed.
As far as the other questions go, I don't know why Canon wastes R&D on functionality that is better done on a computer. There are so many other things they could be focused on.
I have both A7RV and R5M1
A7RV AF always struggle in low light and low contrast
A7RV viewfinder performs badly (noisy, laggy, poor output quality especially low light)
A7RV read out and FPS is slow
A7RV in camera long exposure NR will take 2nd shoot (30s than another 30s omg) that I really dont like
A7RV tilting mon is nice
A7RV has wider choice of lens
A7RV has more customizable buttons/dials
A7RV 61MP is nice
@@ian2nekoMore than anything else, I was disappointed that the R5 II didn’t something similar to the A7R5’s rear LCD. It is a superior design with no downside.
@@timothylinn yes, and some simple software features that are user friendly missing in R5 I (hopefully R5 II has it):
-+ 5EV exposure compensation
M mode extending shutter up to 900s
instantly closing shutter on shutdown
5:44 still shows IBIS wobbles at 26mm. I was really hoping Canon would fix this issue. Its a bit of a dealbreaker for me which is a bummer because I was really excited about Clog2 and the potential DR improvements over the original R5.
OMG! The prices on Canon's battery grips are insane! For a minute, I thought those were for real....
As an R3 owner, the megapixel count is why I'm going with the R3 over the R1 (along with the improved video features). The R1 feels like it falls short as a replacement for my R3 whereas the R5MKII feels like a welcome addition.
Really become a fan of the podcast. Keep it coming. Take care.
Need to know the video Dynamic range numbers (the R5 was very low) and recording formats
I really want to know this
they told it's 16. For those who believes
Canon is just so boring. I say that as an owner. When I switched from fujifilm, I’m not sure what I was thinking. I didn’t think the closed mount would affect me, but realized over last year I spent 10,000 on lenses that can only be used on the canon none of my other cameras. I would happily sell my stuff. I just hate to lose this much money.
I came from X-T3 to R5 and don't regret it. I also got much better lenses with the ability to use anything EF mount. Sure, they are expensive but so far I think it has been worth it. 28-70/2, light and compact 70-200/2.8, the ultimate telephoto 100-500, the 1.2 primes and so on.
@@DrpftnstSony lens work on Nikon with a small adapter that you can barely even notice. You get the use all the features like auto focus, programmable buttons, aperture rings, etc.
just spend some bucks on adapter/speedbooster
Очередной нытик! 🤦Я уже 24 года снимаю на Canon, и меня всё более чем устраивает! Продай систему и перейти на Sony, и ты ныть будешь гораздо сильнее! 😁 Поверь, многие обожглись. А Canon - отличная компания, которая,выпускает отличные камеры!
@@lesnayalesichka I did adapt some of my older lenses but I honestly found it a little clunky
For this to be a real video camera it’s a 5k USD camera when you factor in the cooling grip plus new batteries.
how does this camera compare with the Nikon z8
Nikon z8 better overall camera for 1000 $ less
No one care for the 8k, give us some great 4k up to 120fps. The line skipped image is going to be soft and prone to aliasing. The Z8 is much more complete for video.
The nikon z8 better camera in every aspect for less money
Canon is getting spit roasted by Sony and Nikon 😂
Schade das hier die RUclips Plattform mit blödsinnigen Aussagen zugemüllt wird. Von Pissnelken die nicht annähernd das Geld für so eine Kamera haben.
The Sony A7RV can do 61MP not 45MP, does 16bit output, has a 9.44m dot EVF not 5.76m dot EVF, has a fully articulating screen, dual CF express and SD card slots not just one CF express and one SD, is $800 cheaper and 2 1/2 years old. And you can basically get the same images quality from the A7CR for $3000.
Now does are there some things that would make the R5mii better? Sure. But that assumes Sony and Nikon aren’t going to update their cameras that are now years old.
This camera is average at best now and will be far behind the competition in a year.
Does it have a built in GPS receiver? That is something I really missed when I switched from a 5DIV to R5
Would have been nice, but no.
Mechanical shutter is a big advantage over the Z8 and Z9 for some flash applications. Both of those cameras exhibit banding with high speed sync flash.
Clog looks like old canon colors - love the way Jordan graded
Thanks, but you should check out Tyler Stalman’s LUTs. I used them for all this footage.
- Jordan
I can't believe they didn't include 8K oversampled 4K 60p
I'm extremely disappointed in Canon.
STILL ONLY oversampled 4K30p. The R5C offered 8K oversampled 4K at 60fps and so does the Nikon Z8. Canon didn't even match their own R5C...
They didn't?! Even my R6 Mark II has 6K oversampled full frame 4k60. It's fantastic!
@@77dris No, Canon decided to ARTIFICIALLY CRIPPLE the specs of the R5 Mark II in a last-minute move. This is a really bad look!
EVEN all the Canon Germany employees at the presentation were surprised and even the first press release stated that the R5 Mark II would feature 4K60p oversampled from 8K. I linked the video of the German RUclipsr who attended the official Canon presentation. He talks about it starting from minute 21:06 until 22:10 and he. It's in German but you can read the original press release which is in English (he shows it at minute 21:28). This was what Canon originally put out but they changed course last minute surprising even their own employees. ruclips.net/video/GOuqv4x99Uo/видео.htmlsi=kto346VoMpeBBIlU&t=1288
This is an extremely frustrating move by Canon. Artificially crippling a camera is a really bad look. This was one of the most important features to me and while I love everything else I'll have to go for the Nikon Z8 which offers 8K oversampled 4K60p.
Unless we can convince Canon to release a firmware update enabling this feature. Their image processor CAN handle 4K60p oversampled from 8K as the R5C has proven!!! I'm very disappointed as this is a dealbreaker for me.
Perhaps too much heat and processing power, I mean the 4K HQ mode in R5 was the most demanding one already. But why bother when you can record in 8K and process it in post?
@@jan.tichavsky Well, the competition can do it. The years-old R5C can do it. There is no excuse for Canon not to include it in the R5 Mark II.
Recording in 8K oversampled 4K60p or recording in 8K60p RAW is arguably a huge difference. It's sometimes simply impractical to shoot in 8K RAW. And once again. The competition offers 8K oversampled 4K60p so there isn't really an excuse. I'm really disappointed.
Perhaps Canon crippled it deliberately at the request of the cine cameras department?
Right from point one, if the readout speed is slower than the Z8 then this camera is a fail. The rest of it looks like a me too product next to the Z8, but you don't get access to Z glass. Good luck moving volume at $4300. This will see substantial discounts very soon.
I mean, why? There is no rolling shutter at all. LOL. And z glass is inferior to RF glass... plus you can access all the EF lenses too and unlike with Nikon (or Sony), Canon's adapted system works just as well as native glass.
@@77dris You clearly haven't shot on the z8 or z9. I used the original r5 for years and the zoom lenses are horrible compared to the Nikon ones.
@@77dris Yeah, no. Basically nothing you said is true.
@@77drisz glass inferior to Rf glass? hahaha man you really are a pathetic fanboy that has to resort to lying :D
@@77drisalso from all your comments in every video related to these 2 cameras, apparently we are all stupid as fuck and you seem to know it all and better than anyone else in this industry
Hey Jaron, it looks like you are using the R5mkII with the 24-105 2.8. Were you able to test if the aperture ring works in photo mode? Thanks
If only there were affordable RF lenses
I find the change interesting. Canon was always ahead of Nikon in terms of technology, but since Nikon's Z series, that has completely reversed. If I had to guess who is most likely to close down their camera division, I would guess Canon. They are continuing to play their ridiculous game of passing on features to lower manufacturers and not accepting lenses from other manufacturers. Who really cares?
It has all these excellent features, but does it have one of the most simple features that has been found on even cheap cameras from other brands for over a decade (that has been missing from most Canon cameras)? That is, can you keep the horizon level on during recording video? It may seem silly, but this one feature will decide whether I purchase one or not. I know it has some self-leveling IBIS thing, but that isn't what I'm asking. I just want to be able to make the camera level myself, because I can see the level on the screen. Any clue if it can do that?
I think most experienced shooters have developed a good sense of balance/eye that such a feature isn't required. I've never had an issue a level horizon.
My Sony has a feature to show balanced horizon, have tried putting it on a few times just to see - more of a distraction than aid from my experience.
If it's too early to test overheating... it's too soon to buy. Besides at $4300... it's a non starter.
I can’t wait to buy this in 2 years!
Haha, named it after Petapixel...love it! :)
Until Canon opens the RF mount to third party makers, the brand is dead to me. I get why they’d focus on high-end glass with a new mount; they are serving the professional market. Even the limited opening on the RF-S mount, too little to late for Canon on APS-C; they shouldn’t have forgotten that sensor size in the EF mount days. I started with Canon; I want to like Canon, but it’s hard to support them with the way they are approaching the market. They make a good product, but do they really want to be the “Apple” of the camera industry? Sure seems it.
Say "Peta Pixel Podcast" 10 times real fast without getting tongue twisted. Haha!
I have a technical question on the 30fps cripple while using the older batteries. My thinking is that since 24fps is not half of the 60Hz refresh rate that it requires more processing power. I remember 24fps being a big achievement when Lucas was working with Sony on digital Cinema cameras. Am I over complicating this in my thinking? Is it as simple as the sensor capturing 6 less frames and packing them into a video file, is it more taxing on the system to algorithmically alter the sensor’s native refresh rate, or is this all a ploy by Canon to sell more batteries? Thanks to anyone with an answer.
Sweet, now I can wait for the R7M2 because this sure ain't worth the price
Like the Z8 the R5 mkii ticks all the boxes for an all round camera for pro’s. As amateur l am appreciating the compactness of my OM-1 mkii. It’s smaller, yet offering razor sharp fast lenses, for less weight, smaller size and far less money.
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Hello how is the low light performance between the mark 2 vs the mark 1? Thank you
Can't wait to hear what Jaron has to say about the new cameras in the podcast.
I think I would rather have a R5C for $1300 cheaper (once you add the fan to the R5II)
Should be a nice update for people in that tier of camera. 👍
This camera really pissed me off guys. Therefore, I will leave a second comment. The thing is that I don't see at all why I should pay that kind of money compared to the current price of the first R5. 4 years have passed, and there are practically no improvements or they are minor. When the first R5 came out it was a big event and a leap for Canon. But now it's just another update. It's as if the iPhone just got a little better. But not in a year, but in 4 years.
Here is the EOS R5 which I have attached to my lens
The video frame grab information that you guys talked about yesterday on your panel and stated it was in 1080p is not correct. Canon'a website states that an 8k image can be taken by pressing the shutter button while recording video. Not simply 1080p
Yes, but that will black out the video capture. If you want uninterrupted video capture, it can only do so while recording 1080P.
- Jordan
Never seen so many jealous Nikon fanboys in one place.
😂 Jealous of what? Lack of innovation, horrible feel and look of the camera, overpricing? My old nikon d3400 has a better image than these new canon plastic toys. Are you really shooting in 8k? Useless garbage
Ikr LOL
@@SasaM85too much yaps... just wait for the comparison once the final is out... i bet the z8 will turn to dust
Dang that EVF is HUGE, tha't's awesome.
It feels like there will be an R5C II - or another C-something based on this with a fan inside and a little more video tricks. And at the same time there won't, we can get a fan. It's weird. Waiting for more on the 4K S-Raw analysis because the moire in CVP's preview was scary.
Isn't the price a bit high compare to Z8?
Any improvement in ibis
No
Chris said in the R1 video that the R5 II shares the R1's IBIS
Imagine if Insta360 flew you guys to a location and there'd be a caveat the way you disclose the arrangement.
How "early" ist the firmware if the cameras are available in a few weeks? 🤣
Canon firmwares are always very stable when a new camera is released!
My R6 and R5 still have their first firmware 1.1.0 from 2020 and they both work flawless and perfect since almost four years now with more than 100,000 shots!
Hope the price comes down a bit soon to make it a more compelling option. PS. Full size HDMI in a Canon mirrorless camera, finally!
That r5 mark ii fits my needs as a sports photographer and fine art printing, that 30 fps would be so nice for volleyball and the 4k oversampling would be awesome for my video endevours. I see this as the best option because the only competition in my mind is the z8 and a1 because the a7rv just wouldnt be able to keep up with my sports stuff.
And the nikon has good glass its just the 70-200 isnt great for moving as fast as i want to and there isnt a 28-70. I dont need an open mount cause i only need 2 to 4 lenses and canon has good glass.
Plus i hate compressing my photos cause i am a data hoarder and i can always buy another 8 tb for 100 bucks
does eye control work with glasses? i cant find a test or review on this anywhere. Canon states that it does but i really doubt it...
Always exited to see new video features, also me watching most youtube videos on my computer in 480p to save on CO2 emission. Hey at least we got the choice
I am glad they've released a new camera, but I must admit that I am happier that probably the price on the mk1 will now drop and I can finally afford it! :)
4300 usd in the US, 4800 EUR in the eu, what are they smoking? I also dont think the image quality is better then the original R5....
I would really like to buy the r5 mkii, but I can’t find information anywhere whether Canon has finally enabled focus bracketing with a flash :( I mainly work in macro photography and this function should have been available in cameras for $4000+ for a long time.
Thank you for the video. Very useful. One comment though: there is one screen saying: 5.76M Dot EVF (1600x1200). But 1600x1200 is about 1.9 million not 5.76 million. And 1600x1200 is 4x3 aspect ratio not 3x2.
There are three dots to every pixel, and the EVF is indeed 4X3 (despite the sensor being 3X2)
- Jordan
Very expensive
So $4299, plus $500-$730 grips 😂 typical Canon product. Huge price for nothing groundbreaking. All hype and they deliver a huge price tag. Just read what Canon shooters are saying on the forum. Both cameras are a massive disappointment, and many are actually leaving Canon altogether for Nikon or Sony.
Wait a min there is Rudy Canon USA in there at 0:46....
For stills shooters, what do you estimate the dynamic range to be for stills? Much better than the R5?
Please review the "Capture video and stills simultaneously with no interruption." in final review. How it compare to competitor or other Canon?
Also again: Hi res mode. Does it like any other brand? Or does it really new inovation that can be used in most normal situation hand held? --> it has been a bit showen in R1 video
@@HokgiartoSaliem if you shoot video at 1080p. The sills will be electronic shutter only and at the shutter you are capturing the video. It’s a pointless trick when you can extract 8K frame from an 8K raw video.
I'm also interested in the hires mode and I mead pixel shift, not the upscaling nonsense. The original R5 was pretty bad because you need sturdy tripod and absolutely no movement in the image to have good result. Anything with water is a no go.
There is no high-res mode. Not even the shitty one on the R5.
How much !! The prices have now reached such a silly level they have priced out casual photographers. I could literally buy a pretty good car for that money…
That was always the case. I mean, were you also outraged that the 1DS launched for $8000 (equivalent to $13,550 in 2023) back in the day? In my country the suggested price for R5 II is actually slightly lower than for R5 launch. I will see if it holds.
@@jan.tichavsky The 1D series were always ridiculously priced but they were Canons very top tier cameras that were aimed at working professionals. The 5D series were always below that and were always obtainable by the serious amateur. They USED to be obtainable. However at £4.3k where as Fuji and and Olympus and I am sure many other brands have competing cameras priced at around £1500-£1700 its hardly a surprise they are going to get few camera sales until second hand sales perhaps become a thing.
Yeah- orange skin tone..nice..
5:50 yeah Sony 🤨 wth
Can the R5II shoot bracketed exposures with the electronic shutter?
What an amazing camera. I’ve got the R5, but I think Amazon Prime day 2027 when the R5II is like $1000 off is the time to buy. When the dust settles, please get Jordan to do a “waveforms for dummies” video?
I just bought a 5D mk1 "Classic" for $200 and remembered that, allowing for inflation over 19 years, the 5D mk1 was way more expensive at launch than this R5 mk2.
The 5D basically takes (beautiful) 13Mp images and that's it. It's fundamentally just a film camera with a sensor stuck in. The sheer amount of progress, technically, in 19 years to give us the R5mk2, for less money than the 5D is extraordinary. 8K video, 8 stops of IBIS, 40 frames a second, eye controlled auto focus !!!!
I can't afford one, but the way things work out it will be $1,000 in a few years. Until then I'll hang on to my 5D, 5D-SR & 6D.
Tech is about the only thing that has got cheaper overtime. Sadly can't say the same about everything else
can you make a test with the camera on 8K Raw 14 Bit, I love to see the resolution out of that, please?
Will I be able to see blinkies through the viewfinder before I shoot (like I can in some Fuji and Sony cameras) or only after I take the photo?
So basically the R5II is now a press camera?
And with eye control AF for candids?
R5 Mark 1 is a popular press camera...
It's basically for everything except travel and street.
@@johnny_blz because it's frickin big and heavy for travel and people don't like if you show up with a pro camera on the streets, but they smile when they see a retro style or film camera.
The problem is, you can buy a 10 year old camera and it has enough features to get to know for the next 10 years. Cameras today are already overloaded with features. At certain point, too many features becomes a drain to learn and figure out.
Today a typical camera has 50 modes for focusing to choose from and another 30 metering options, all kinds of secondary functions button to overload your senses and make your head spin. And then you need a special book, and 8 more hours of youtube videos to understand what each mode is designed to do, and in which scenarios to activate one mode over another.
When you’re shooting video and photos at the same time, is the photos JPEG or Raw? 😊
I’m dying to know. How is the noise in clog in low light? Does it keep up with Sony???
Its almost like all these videos are saying the stuff, you just have to choose who's delivery you like best