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Mean-lookin' little fighter! Down low, a fairly competent pilot could beat a Mustang in single combat. No chance for it above 15,000 feet though. Having said that, the Yak-3 and P-51 were designed round different combat roles. Dogfights over the Eastern Front were generally at very low level in support of ground offensives and to ward off German ground attackers. In the West, the role was generally to fly cover for high-altitude bombers.
The wing planiform no doubt aided in the roll rate of this light weight fighter, and the lack of the usual number of guns American types used helped as well, especially for just dogfights, where often just a few hits would bring down the opposition. some P-47 groups took 4 of their 8 50 cal. guns out, which allowed for greater performance, hence their new term for these converted fighters....."SuperBolts" !
FDR was in double ring of Russian intelligence, controlled US; YAK planes a like whole US Automobile industry were powered by American designs/discoveries, YAK vs Curtiss... In Russian version planes have been under-powered and with low quality... But the pilots have been shooting enemies and planes have been the tool only....
From My research , the first NA-73X / P-51 prototype first flew in 1940. Remembering a P-51 book from years ago, there was info in it from 1939. The Yak 3 prototype is listed of first flying in 1941. Looking at the gear stance, leading inboard edges of the wings, under fuse cooling fairing, and outlet scoop , ect, ect, just seem more than just a coincidence to me.
The Yak-3 comes from the development of the Yak-1. And Yak-1s protype (I-26) flew before than that of the P-51 (January 1940 vs October 1940). And there you can see the underside radiator (also present in earlier Soviet desings like the LaGG-1 and MiG-1). But still both initial prototypes are quite different from the late variants the planes came out to be. Either way these features aren't something 'unique' to start calling for copying and such, they are just the results of aerodynamic research and optimization. For example both Ju-87 Stuka and D3A Val landing gear covers are almost identical, but their development was separate and there wasn't any relationship, both projects got the same results.
Both the Yak-1 and the Yak-7 flew before the P-51. They both had the cooling scoop on the bottom. The Yak-3 was developed from the earlier Yaks so I don't think they copied the Mustang. Perhaps the other way around, but I won't make that claim since I don't know. Also the P-51 was famously designed in record time starting in April 1940 (not 1939). The British had originally wanted North American Aviation to build P-40s for them but the company made a counter proposal to design and all new fighter.
P51's Mustangs did not use Allison engines.!!!!!!!! These are not replicas however they are using Allison engines. Even the restored Il-2 Stormovic which is now flying is powered by an Allison engine
One of these aircraft came to Oamaru yesterday (29 November) for the annual Santa parade, and made two fly-bys down the main street at 300 feet and 200+ mph. Fabulous! I read once, some time ago, that when these aircraft were restored, the original Soviet-era engines were no longer available, so they were fitted with Allisons. Can anyone confirm this?
MarsFKA dmvh is wrong, they are Rolls Royce Merlins (Spitfire/P51). They don't sound anything like P40's which used Allisons. I think almost current Yak 3 and 9 is using a Merlin.
Further to this, I was at the Omaka Classic Fighters air show at Easter. These two Yaks were performing there, as well as two Merlin-powered Spitfires and a P51 and I have to say that neither of the Yaks’ engines sounded anything like the Merlins in the other three aircraft. There were also two P40s there, which sounded identical to the Yaks. Just to be sure, I looked up the New Zealand Yaks and they are, indeed, fitted with Allisons.
+audigod Both Yaks are new-build Yak-3s constructed in Russia in the early 1990s and all were delivered with Allison V12 engines. i.ytimg.com/vi/9op5stePXDU/maxresdefault.jpg
Taildraggers are easier to handle on grass. The drag from the tailwheel (or skid for really old types) tends to straighten out any wobbles. It's like having a string attached to the tail. On a hard runway, imagine a shopping trolley with a magnetic attraction to runway edges and you will have some idea of a taildragger's handling characteristics.
if you are asking why those planes were capable to land on grass airfields the answer is because those were way cheaper to build than a concrete one. those air craft were capable to land on take off from those airfields. not so with the incoming jets though
@MrSteeleye, no need to shout ;-) At the beginning the P51 had Allions V-1710 engines. They where later removed from the P-51 Mustang and replaced (because lack of power at high altitude) with the Rolls-Royce Merlins.
These warbirds are designed to land on gras stripes and in take off runs and while touching down they are much better controllable on gras than on concrete.
Great Planes, I love them.
Awesome footage m8!Was there in 2012, but my cam wasn't cooperating, so quite pleased to see this.Cheers 4 sharing!
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+Historical Aviation Film Unit Just browsed through your channel and.., it's like walking into a candy-store and being told you can have anything you want. So spoiled myself with a subscription. Yooz'll keep me busy for a long long time!
Love the colors.
Excellently!!!
Sounds like these 2 aircraft have Merlin engines installed , Great video :-)
Alison v-1710 engines in these two.
Mean-lookin' little fighter! Down low, a fairly competent pilot could beat a Mustang in single combat. No chance for it above 15,000 feet though. Having said that, the Yak-3 and P-51 were designed round different combat roles. Dogfights over the Eastern Front were generally at very low level in support of ground offensives and to ward off German ground attackers. In the West, the role was generally to fly cover for high-altitude bombers.
The wing planiform no doubt aided in the roll rate of this light weight fighter, and the lack of the usual number of guns American types used helped as well, especially for just dogfights, where often just a few hits would bring down the opposition. some P-47 groups took 4 of their 8 50 cal. guns out, which allowed for greater performance, hence their new term for these converted fighters....."SuperBolts" !
it was the best Russian fighter in WW2, he is a fantastic maneuverability
Better than the spitfire and mustang.
Watch this with your sub-woofer strapped to your chest to get a good impression.
P51 Mustangs did have Allison engines and also had Merlin engines
Красота!!!
Эх жаль, не с родными движками летают. :(
The best
Its not Russian its soviet
Nice!
Nice. I'm from Finland
Why did they land in the dirt instead of the runway?
Magnificent
Great planes.
Самолет мечта ,лучший в мире Боец...
Recheck your info on when the Merlin joined the P-51 airframe
Original engines?
Klimov M-105? It sounds like an Allison....
Modified Alison - not Alison! Changed fuel type, climatic parameters, other changes ...
FDR was in double ring of Russian intelligence, controlled US; YAK planes a like whole US Automobile industry were powered by American designs/discoveries, YAK vs Curtiss... In Russian version planes have been under-powered and with low quality... But the pilots have been shooting enemies and planes have been the tool only....
Looks like the Russians took some ideas from the P-51.
Which ideas? The development of the Yak-3 features were previous to the P-51
From My research , the first NA-73X / P-51 prototype first flew in 1940. Remembering a P-51 book from years ago, there was info in it from 1939. The Yak 3 prototype is listed of first flying in 1941. Looking at the gear stance, leading inboard edges of the wings, under fuse cooling fairing, and outlet scoop , ect, ect, just seem more than just a coincidence to me.
The Yak-3 comes from the development of the Yak-1. And Yak-1s protype (I-26) flew before than that of the P-51 (January 1940 vs October 1940). And there you can see the underside radiator (also present in earlier Soviet desings like the LaGG-1 and MiG-1). But still both initial prototypes are quite different from the late variants the planes came out to be.
Either way these features aren't something 'unique' to start calling for copying and such, they are just the results of aerodynamic research and optimization. For example both Ju-87 Stuka and D3A Val landing gear covers are almost identical, but their development was separate and there wasn't any relationship, both projects got the same results.
Both the Yak-1 and the Yak-7 flew before the P-51. They both had the cooling scoop on the bottom. The Yak-3 was developed from the earlier Yaks so I don't think they copied the Mustang. Perhaps the other way around, but I won't make that claim since I don't know. Also the P-51 was famously designed in record time starting in April 1940 (not 1939). The British had originally wanted North American Aviation to build P-40s for them but the company made a counter proposal to design and all new fighter.
Way Kool
HhhaaA....hhh ....not applicable used for anykind of muffler...deadly choked ur engine
A hell of a beauty!
P51's Mustangs did not use Allison engines.!!!!!!!! These are not replicas however they are using Allison engines. Even the restored Il-2 Stormovic which is now flying is powered by an Allison engine
I think I'm going to have to move to New Zealand !
Sounds like a couple p-51s!
VNice yaky's..
That is because they use the same Allison engine for these replicas.
One of these aircraft came to Oamaru yesterday (29 November) for the annual Santa parade, and made two fly-bys down the main street at 300 feet and 200+ mph. Fabulous!
I read once, some time ago, that when these aircraft were restored, the original Soviet-era engines were no longer available, so they were fitted with Allisons. Can anyone confirm this?
Yes, they are using allisons.
Thanks.
MarsFKA dmvh is wrong, they are Rolls Royce Merlins (Spitfire/P51). They don't sound anything like P40's which used Allisons. I think almost current Yak 3 and 9 is using a Merlin.
Further to this, I was at the Omaka Classic Fighters air show at Easter. These two Yaks were performing there, as well as two Merlin-powered Spitfires and a P51 and I have to say that neither of the Yaks’ engines sounded anything like the Merlins in the other three aircraft.
There were also two P40s there, which sounded identical to the Yaks.
Just to be sure, I looked up the New Zealand Yaks and they are, indeed, fitted with Allisons.
+audigod
Both Yaks are new-build Yak-3s constructed in Russia in the early 1990s and all were delivered with Allison V12 engines. i.ytimg.com/vi/9op5stePXDU/maxresdefault.jpg
p-51A B and C models used the allison. The D was the first to get a packard built merlin.
I think the B and C both used to the Merlin not the Allison. The D was the first version with the bubble canopy.
Tough airplanes!
Both are powered by Allison V1710s
Just wondering why they landed on the grass? Inertia of the grass to assist in braking?
+A Repas It's just generally easier on the aircraft and tyres.
Taildraggers are easier to handle on grass. The drag from the tailwheel (or skid for really old types) tends to straighten out any wobbles. It's like having a string attached to the tail.
On a hard runway, imagine a shopping trolley with a magnetic attraction to runway edges and you will have some idea of a taildragger's handling characteristics.
if you are asking why those planes were capable to land on grass airfields the answer is because those were way cheaper to build than a concrete one. those air craft were capable to land on take off from those airfields. not so with the incoming jets though
@MrSteeleye, no need to shout ;-) At the beginning the P51 had Allions V-1710 engines. They where later removed from the P-51 Mustang and replaced (because lack of power at high altitude) with the Rolls-Royce Merlins.
These warbirds are designed to land on gras stripes and in take off runs and while touching down they are much better controllable on gras than on concrete.
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Absolutely. The A-36 and the P-51A both had the Allison engine.
OK, so these are original replicas? ;-)
Freakin' GREAT sound!
Impressive!