Who Killed Little Gregory Villemin? | True Crime Recaps
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- This unsolved case will leave you not only heartbroken but absolutely mind-boggled...
On October 16th 1984, in Lépanges France, Christine Villemin was busy with household chores while her four-year-old son played outside in the yard. That evening little Gregory Villemin vanished. He was later discovered in a river with his hands and feet bound.
The nightmare at the Villemin family household began long before the toddler’s body was found. For years, the Villemin family was being terrorized by threatening calls from an anonymous man who seemed to know everything about the family’s darkest history…
The unfolding of this case went through a rollercoaster of suspects, witnesses and hearsay, but to this day, the real killer of little Gregory is still unknown…
Our question is: who really killed little Gregory Villemin and will we ever know?
Stay tuned for today’s True Crime Recap where we’ll be uncovering everything we know about the case.
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⏱️CHAPTERS⏱️
00:00 - 00:54 - Intro
00:54 - 04:20 - Preceding events
04:20 - 06:27 - The death of Gregory
06:27 - 07:45 - Investigation
07:45 - 15:26 - Bernard Laroche
15:26 - 16:57 - Jean-Marie & Christine arrests
16:57 - 25:47 - Recent events
25:47 - 26:13 - Outro
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Have you heard about this heartbreaking case before, or seen the Netflix documentary?
I've never heard of this heartbreaking case, and even though we have Netflix, I prefer You and Amy for bringing me the knowledge, of Gregory Villemin. Your compassion and thoughtfulness is so very much, appreciated. Our hope is, that he and his true loved ones get the justice he so deserves 💌💝🤍🙏🤍💝
@@AlexaCBrown amen to that Alexa!
Great channel isn't it😊
No
@@marthaohare8590 it certainly is 💌☀️💝💌
Yes. Very disturbing. Appreciate a channel that would cover this !! Horrendous, heinous, hard to watch !!
No child should ever be held responsible for any wrong, real or perceived, of their parents.
I agree with You completely.. Children are innocent. So sad
You have very weird perception. This child was never held responsible for anything his parents did or did not do. What’s wrong with you?
@@MaureenKo1 it specifically stated in the video that the caller was mad about something the "boss" and his family had done. And that he, the caller, was going to make them pay. When he threatened the child and got a reaction to that, he then killed the child. Did you even listen to this video? I don't know how you got anything different than the child was murdered to pay for whatever wrong the caller felt the family had done. If you got something different, explain your thoughts. Don't just disagree and not explain WHY you disagree.
@@MaureenKo1 The child literally was killed "for what the family has done", according to the person who stalked and threatened them and told them they "had to pay". One day after the child's body was found the killer also stated "I have taken vengeance!"
How else do you perceive that?!
Wtf is wrong with YOU, besides your comprehension issues? Talk about weird!
There's exceptions to every rule.
In this case the exception is; If your name is Kerry, you're absolutely held responsible for your parents actions.
The quick recap your channel does isn’t too long but you get the story facts. I appreciate that from a true crime channel.
Thank you very much!
me too!
I always go looking for more info.
HE LOOKS LIKE THE LITTLE BOY IN ONE OF SHIRLEY TEMPLES MOVIES
@@jennifermyers66 yes!!!! You are right!
Could you imagine having to go on living in a Village where your Child was Murdered, your Husband was now a Murderer and people thought you Murdered your own Child? Yikes! Hard to wrap your Head around that level of Horror and Humiliation! 😱
I'm French an here in France this case is everything. Everyone knows about it and has their opinion about it.
You summed up the case really well
thank you!
Sounds like a plot from a mystery novel. Can't imagine what it would be like to have to live it. Brutal case. Thanks for another great recap. Very informative.
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching.😁
I can't imagine the terror that boy must have experienced.
Great job Chris! Hello Amy! Thank-you again for all you do. 💝
Thank YOU Victoria!
@@TrueCrimeRecaps qqqq
Did you miss the detail about the insulin syringe? If it was used as part of the murder, the child would have slipped off into a coma. Literally fallen into a deep sleep and totally unaware of the crime being committed against him. That would explain his peaceful facial expression. Drowning alive would have produced a ghastly face. This child appeared to have been fast asleep, and probably was when he died.
@@MaureenKo1 That makes sense. I must not have heard that. Thank-you!
@@MaureenKo1 I do hope his death was painless, even though it was cruel he was killed. Drowning would of been so horrible, it doesn’t make the situation any better but you always hope the victims didn’t suffer much in the end.
His tiny shoes in the police evidence bag are heartbreaking.
Yes. It's unfathomable to even imagine what this poor, little boy suffered. RIP precious, little Gregory.🌹❤🌺
I just can’t wrap my head around how someone could hurt a child like that.
That child was so precious. I can’t wrap my head around how murderers, rapists, kidnappers can do what they do. How do they disconnect themselves and their private lives from the horrible crimes that they perpetrate? They have people in their lives that they love, but they can take others’ lives so easily.
I’m not sure how the women do it, I just watched the one about the stepmom suspecting of killer her stepson and crazy to think how she could of killed a child she lived with!
Psychopaths don’t have feelings like you or I have they lack empathy everything is for their sick pleasure no matter the cost to others
@@johnscanlon2598 true. I just don’t understand the inability to empathize for others.
@@jewisley me neither it’s completely foreign to me
Ego.. The roots of all evils
Such a beautiful little boy, I hope someday his family will get the answers they deserve.
I would love for this to be solved. It is a heartbreaking story.
Such a precious,beautiful little boy. Who would harm a child. I think that Muriel’s story holds truth. Because eyewitnesses saw her get into a car and said she definitely wasn’t on the bus. The driver she said was driving the bus didn’t work that day, and she stated the color of the roof. Was the house’s rooftop RED? If so, how would she know? This story is so shady. I know one person that knows the truth, and He says “ vengeance is mine, I will repay.” So we do know that the person or persons that harmed this baby WILL be punished to the FULLEST extent
Kind of bizarre, French authorities, and their "handwriting experts," said two different people/genders wrote the note. Whenever things get political, and the bosses have a lot of pressure on them, "solving the case" can often take precedence over finding the perpetrator. What is it, 1/15 old cases that have testable DNA exonerate the guy charged with the crime?
@@jeaniecreswell8708 Nope. The witness who claimed she saw Murielle going in a car was wrong. She said "I remember that day because it was the same day my day had eye operation at the hospital" Problem is that her father was actually at Hospital the 22 not the 16..
There are tons of elements that make Bernard innocent. Even the DNA is not Bernard's. Netflix documentary is garbage.
Journalist Jean Querre twist the reality to save his reputation. Like the sketch. Firts sketch presented wasn't the one with a moustache (or he lied or he confused ) The Sketch witha moustache was made by Bernard Cousin! He said "I know my cousin , if it was him I would have said "hi" and started a conversation with him 🤷♀
Technically it's impossible that Bernard could have done such stuffs in such short period of time .
Who would have taken so many risks
_the worst route!
_So many witnesses
_driving 3 times in front of villemin's house and neighbours , that doesn't make any sense.
Sorry for my english , we have tons of proofs that make Bernard innocent.
Jean Marie is still searching for who committed the murder. Ti this day.
If you have any question I'll give some answers.
There are so many mistakes in the netflix documentary..
I’ve been wanting to watch the documentary on Netflix but I don’t have time to read the subtitles! I love this channel, amazing content, straight to the facts, and I could seriously listen to both of y’all’s voice forever.
So nice of you to say! Thanks a million!
It’s not subtitled on Netflix it’s English dubbed.
Muriel told the truth at first, but then she was afraid to be murdered too.
What kind of animal could do this to a child?!😡
Not an animal…. The devil himself…
@@srfnma6813 The raven's voice is diabolical on the recordings even if he distorted it so as not to be recognized.
I was a child when i heard this story , i followed it since i became a grown woman, Netflix documentary is very good. To me it s my opinion Bernard Laroche is the perpetrator and Murielle Bolle is hiding something there's many people involved.
I m surprised that foreigners channel is covering it , that's great. May this little Gregory be in heaven ❤️ the parents went through much
Do you know what the Netflix documentary is called?
@@TCASpeaks who Killed little Gregory
@@thatgardeninggirl2864 thank you
I was a child too when gregory was cruelly murdered and i grew up with that tragic case. Gregory' s parents have been failed by everyone involved : investigators , judge Lambert , journalists , some of their own family members . Mainstream medias have made so much dammages to that investigation and to gregory's family ! I agree with you about Bernard Laroche being the murderer. It s important to know Boile changed her testimony AFTER spending time at ( Laroche) home. No doubt her sister asked her to lie to protect her husband. She also knows who wrotte those disgusting letters but would probably never tell the truth.
J-Marie and Christine managed to build a family filled with love. So admirable !
@@S_8- it s a very sick crazy story ,all this by jaleousy. Some people get divorced some get stronger
Seeing that poor mothers face crying looking down at her sons coffin, is beyond heartbreaking. Idk what to say other than too sad. The family's heartbreak, fear, & anger for them is beyond comprehension
Unbelievable what monsters can do out if just jealousy and hate
RIP Angel 🕊🌾🧸❤
God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊💕💕💕
Sheer and seering pain
@@lmartinyale Exactly 👍🏻unbelievable. God bless 👑🙏🏻🕊
That poor child. May he R.I.P. Thanks for the recap.
I haven't got Netflix at the moment, my budget and 46 cats don't allow for it, so it was great to get all the facts of the sad and still unsolved case in half the time from the best in the business on RUclips! Thanks Chris, and Amy too, for everything you do to make it easy to watch and understand every case you post. Take care and stay safe lots of love from your Aussie friend Ann xoxo 🇦🇺🤠🏡💖
Thank you so much for letting us know! It makes us feel great that we can make connections so broadly. We love hearing from our friends in Australia! Have wonderful day!🌞🌞🌞
I hope you can provide vet care & spay & neuter. And have hygienic conditions with that many cats. Otherwise it's hoarding & neglect.
@@sarahholland2600 don't assume to know anything about me or my cat family! Each and every member of the family is treated with respect and has a wonderful vet, is fed better than any other animal or person I know. I don't normally bother to reply to your type of comment but I've just finished feeding, cleaning and playing with my furbabies for the morning and I saw your comment and saw red!
@@crazycatladyoftullamore5176 I think she was worried because of you saying your budget doesn't allow you to have Netflix hun.. don't think she was trying to be mean. If she was and I am wrong, I'm sorry, it just didn't seem that way. Bless
I just finished reading her comment.. she could have not added the ending. I can see why you got upset with that part
It's one in the morning here, needed something to watch in bed. Thanks.
Glad we could be there for ya!👍
Going to fix that thanks Vern!
We are pretty twisted ppl that we watch murder mystery to rest 😩🤣🤣
@@effortlesslye1921 I’ve had my ear buds in the last few nights listening to these guys in bed until I just pass out lol , started to think it’s seriously affecting my dreams lol
@@johnscanlon2598 you are crazy lol. If I listen while I’m sleep I always have somebody chasing me in my dreams and I’m getting murdered 😂. I always turn on cartoons once I’m ready to go to sleep.
I had seen that little boy’s picture before and he has a striking resemblance to my sun at that age. Never knew the story behind it before. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼😊
I feel the same way when I see pictures of Caylee Anthony. My daughter looked just like her as a toddler so it just hit even harder.
That is the most convoluted story ever and you did a great job breaking it down. Someone giving them self a nickname and the way poor Gregory was found...seems very personal.
Chris and Amy find crimes we wouldn’t know about. Love their videos. Wen I watch these my husband says I go into a trance 😂 I’m so into the story their telling us
😂😂😂 Glad you enjoy them! Thanks for watching.
This case is pretty famous in Europe, and mostly France.
It's just evil to kill an innocent gorgeous little toddler. 🥺
My forensics class is doing a podcast and I chose this case for my group. This was so helpful, thanks!
Love both you guys!! The best channel for true crime in half the time!!!
Thanks Kystal, we love you too!
so sad when an innocent little one is torn away from his family in such a terrible way and there's no resolution for the parents...
that is such an emptiness with no closure...I can't begin to imagine their pain and loss...
I truly hope that the truth comes out somewhere along the line it's a terrible thing to have to live with 😢
Chris, absolutely love these longer videos! Much love, thank you!
Me as well... The longer the better, but if they must be, or are short, I will take it💌☀️
This video needed to be long with all the suspects and questions. Sadly I think the water washed away the evidence of the killer(s) I’m not even sure which suspect was the killer.
I do appreciate how you know what cases need a bit longer to share. I do enjoy your longer vids too. Thank you
Another video! You guys are the best! This is the only channel i have the notifications turned on for- love you guys!
Hey there Holly! Thanks so much for taking the time to hang with us!😁 Have a great evening.
I always look for this channel because I love the quick recaps. I get the facts without dragging out the video. They are a delightful couple to watch and listen to.
Hi, french here. I think one of the impacts of this case is how even nowadays we're all saying who did what as soon as a new case appears. Through social networks, as soon as something appears in the news and as soon as we have a couple of interview of people involved in the case, TONS of people here talk about how they feel and what they think. And it can be pretty deep with people saying how things happened, why, when etc. And they brag about it on social networks. Its amazing to see. And I guess this happens everywhere in the world, but in France the trauma of the Gregory Villemin case is unique. I really believe that most of us here know about this case, how it went (with medias, global hysteria, justice failures, the fact that we can't tell the truth etc) and that it has an effect on how we deal with ALL cases.
Y'all do great work. Thank you for your focus on the children
And I always thought my family was awful....RIP sweet boy Gregory. 💕💗💕
Love u guys so much! I find myself going thru old videos if I need a true crime fix...or a fix of Amy or u chris. Thanks for the great work. Hope u all have a good week!
Thank you Amanda! Love hearing from you, and you have a great week as well!
So glad you could spend some time with us!!😊🌞
Thank you you brought this sad story back , dear boy , you guys are great !
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching!
Such a sad case, I hope it one day is solved. I feel for the parents.
They shouldn’t have let him out of his sight knowing what they knew. It’s 100% the parent’s fault
@@michealknight3776 I blame the killer who killed the kid.
@@whitedragoness23 well him too
@@michealknight3776 erm no it's 100% the killer's fault, have some respect for a grieving family.
@@michealknight3776 The worst part about Cosby was the hypocrisy.
I've never heard of this case. Great job on telling it! You and Amy are awesome!
You're the best! Thanks!
what a messed-up family 🤨
RIP little Gregory hope you find peace & justice soon sleep tight little angel 😇 💔🙏🕊⚘
Love this channel! Great recap
Glad you enjoy it! Thank you!
Excellent 👍🏽 I like this longer video. Even though I fell for your quick recaps in the beginning 😁🌹
What a great channel. Thank you for this
Thank you, glad you are here with us!
Perhaps time will tell... thank you Chris/Amy for sharing this episode with us.
Thank you very much!
I love the way you and Amy present your recaps. Two of my favourite RUclipsrs.
Wow, thank you!🙌
Hi Chris and Amy. Thanks for this very on point analysis of petit Gregory murder. I do think that most of French people (and I) are thinking that, it is a family conspiracy due to jalousers and envious of jj and Christine's success in life. I have been living in such place in france, I'm the age that Gregory would be. May I say, silence is gold for most of people in such secluded places. I do think Murielle is the key of this situation. And I do think the biggest mistake was coming from the Judge Lambert who released her from custody for a whole weekend back into her family. When she came back home after she stated Bernard laroche was involved, she surely, obviously, had a proper beat up or threat for her life, so much, that she's gone mute from this, even to this day!! For being so stubborn and shut into this silence nowadays she's infuriating but understandably she's in fear cause they aren't all dead. It is so frustrating to see her even lately giving interviews and being faking she doesn't know a thing rather we all know she holds it all in herself though. At some point you'd want to come up to her, and say hey, yes or no. Silenced and reddish of shame as for the last 30 years. Famous video is : "mon beau Frere est innocent". Find it and see for yourself. But it was too late. And we all know. Seriously. It involves a lot of people from this clan. I do think this is a bad joke gone wrong and not an action from a sole demented person... Sorry for the whole "I do think" thingy. But this case needs owned opinions and not vague suppositions.
Hi Elise. Thanks for your in depth opinion here. We will take a look at "mon beau Frere est innocent" Sounds very intriguing.
Hi Chris 👋. Brilliantly told story today. You and Amy really take me on a journey. Love you guys. ❤
So glad to hear it! Thank you!!
Have you'll ever thought about live streaming? I would like to donate to you both, or a patron?
You both are my favorite presenters.
I would like to support you so you all can keep making such great videos.
love this channel
I feel like this is common in cases where a family member is the culprit.
Like what is common?
Best channel. Amazing writing and voices.
Appreciate you so much! Thanks!
Wow what a case! Great job. 💙
Thank you! 🤗
Real mystery. Thank you.
I can see how hard you guys work and I'm glad it's paying off - you'll be at half a million in just a few months I bet 🤩
When I saw this video come up, I decided to watch the Netflix series instead. Found out it was in French (I like foreign films, but I usually speed up viewing but didn't go well with subtitles) and almost 5 hours long. So, thank you for the recap!
You got it!🙌
Happy Sunday everyone hope y'all having a wonderful Sunday these stories have me wondering if this will ever end thanks again amy and christ for your great work🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
You're very welcome Janet!🙌
Love your channel
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I don't think anyone could forget this little guys face if they saw it before. Gregory deserves justice! And the person who did this has or had to live with themselves.💔
I burst out crying when I saw his little shoes. This is so heart breaking. Poor thing
From the outback if Australia, love you guys!!
"Handwriting expert" they thought it was the first guy then the lady? If they are not absolutely sure then they should not point the finger
Can't imagine the pain for parents. Shocking the person got away with this cruel murder
When I started watching this I'm thinking, Oh, I've seen a video on this story before. But Geez Chris. After hearing this version compared to the one I watched previously. What I knew was like comparing a pamphlet to a novel. Thanks Man !
Aww this poor little boy.
I love True crime
You guys do such a good job
Best wishes ✌❤
You and Amy ( who by the way gets more beautiful every time I see her ) are the BEST storytellers! I absolutely have loved your channel from day one, y’all are killing it! ❤️✌️🕵🏻♂️
You are a sweetheart Loura. Thank you so much for spending some time with us.😊
That's so sad I hate seeing or hearing about little kids. I have 2 little granddaughters,
Poor baby and the family
Hey Chris! ❤️
Hi there!
Why was there no DNA on the letters. Would the perpetrator thought not to put their DNA on it? I mean, DNA wasn't really a thing back then, was it?
I remember this, wasn't the mother a suspect and many others.
A very strange case, the little boy was so cute and it was a mess with relatives and the whole village.
I never forgot about the little boy ❤
Crimes of Passion - France acknowledges that people are driven by emotions and the sentence is a lot less than it would be for a normal murder. RIP little Gregory,
Great recap (as usual)! Could you please tell me the name of the automated software they used to compare alibis? Was it ANACRIM? Am I mis-spelling it? And thanks!
Anacrim, you’re correct.
@@Ami-a-Plumes Thank you!
What happened to Gregory was awful. The investigation seems to have done nothing but make it all worse. You can't let the murderer off, but innocent people should not be harassed, especially to the point of miscarrying another baby.
I watched that Netflix documentary thinking that by the end I would know who killed Gregory, but no, no answer. then you made me think we had an answer, but no, once again nothing.
So sad
I watched the Netflix documentary before seeing this. Great job condensing this convoluted case with the main facts! Like Chris said, this case has everything. An innocent child was a victim due to jealousy & evil between the adults.
Muriel knew..
This is a mystery very sad
Great job on this story. So heartbreaking 💔
Why don't Chris and Amy do these shows together anymore? You 2 make a great team!
Wow 🤩 another true crime recap!! Amazing! Happy 4th of July!! 🇺🇸
Happy 4th!!
Bernard definitely did it and it sounds like Muriel tried to tell everyone what happened but she was bullied into being quiet.
Great channel, what a cute little boy.
"The damage to her reputation?" How about the fact she miscarriaged? Surely THAT was punishment?
that raven guy is almost like the circleville ohio letter writer
Very interesting! Will have to check it out!
@@TrueCrimeRecaps thanks - i hope you or your wife or both of you will do a video about that - if you get a chance , check out the unsolved mysteries with robert stack that was done about that - have a great weekend and happy 4th of july too
Happy 4th of July Amy & Chris. Fantastic coverage Chris. RIP Gregory🙏. The police failed miserably clutching at straws all the time a total rubbish investigation. I do hope that they can find the answers to this brutal crime.👊👍🇬🇧🇺🇸
Us too! Happy 4th!
@@TrueCrimeRecaps Many Thanks
That hurts me to see those shoes in that bag..😢
Poor Gregory. With how peaceful his body appeared to be, I’m assuming it was someone he knew.
What if it turns out it was a massive coincidence. Someone in the family was The Raven. Someone in the family talked about it. Some random loony made this a crime of opportunity. Maybe no one in the family killed him. Just an idea. Stranger things have happened.
It's such a mystery and anything is possible. Makes the imagination run wild!
I am debating it, which if that’s the case it would lead to false leads because there will be guilty people wanting to hide their actions and not be found guilty of murder. I wouldn’t put it pass a stranger or some friend of the family to have killed the boy. After it it didn’t seem like he was attacked
So Sad AND WHY? Bc MONSTERS are among us. I'm gonna watch this. rest in peace sweet baby Gregory
So they have never heard from the Raven again. It really doesn’t seem like there was anything that any of these suspects had that would seem to have been so egregious he would take a little boy‘s life. It’s very strange, and it would seem to me that there would have to be something really dark in the past for this to of happened. Y’all have such great recaps! I’m going to have to think about this one! Take care and many blessings!
WOW WHAT A STORY HAPPY 4TH
Happy 4th!!🌞
I think the uncle Michel never received a phone call telling him Gregory is in the river. He knew because he’s the crow, but that’s my theory.
I'm here because of an episode Walter presents series on channel 4. Still cannot believe it is a real story and not a TV drama/crime thriller! The poor innocent little boy died a terrible death for the sins of his own family members consumed by jealousy... RIP Little Angel ❤💔🤍
hi dear Chris...i had to take couple of pills to calm me down after listening to this story....thanks as always ....
Chris and Amy are the best!
Omg! I watched this on Netflix last night...
It's a very complex case with a secret that may comes from the 50's or even before.
You sound french (insight). Tell us more.
your story reminds me of the Fude of the Hatfield's and Mc Coys I wonder if she was abused at home.
Was there any audio or video of the police investigation? Still a very tragic case.