Thank you so much for joining the interview way back! Appreciate your pastoral and scholarly approach to ministry. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to reading your book on soteriology!
Thank you for this... It confirms everything I surmised about this movement. So grateful for God's saving grace that through His son Jesus Christ I now am forgiven and indwelt by His Holy Spirit and my faith will grow by the knowledge of His infallible written Word 😊🙏
Thanks for your feedback. As someone from a Pentecostal background, I also love hearing from other theological traditions including Reformed Baptist. God bless. 🙏🏽
The best way to examine our doctrines and our denominational culture is to really compare it with the book of Acts. Everyone is trying to find the full revelation on how to do ministry, how to be a disciple, but we miss it because we justify the disconnect on why our churches don’t look like theirs by creating doctrines to suit what our church is today... instead of taking the scriptures face value and ask ourselves what we’re missing. It has always been the working of the Holy Spirit’s power that we are missing. No matter how much intellect we have, if we are afraid of the Holy Ghost when He moves we will always be stuck in a place and culture of creating human activities to fill in what God has been trying to do, just like what we read in the book of Acts. It’s why we come up with doctrines like cessationism.
Of course they have a theology. They don't throw out half the Bible. They don't deny the power of God and the Holy Ghost. They believe men and women still are used by God. They believe that when it says these signs shall follow those that believe,. ...they don't try to explain it away. In the last days people will have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.
Saying the wrong thing with greater eloquance does not make it more true. I'm just hearing the same baseline false teachings of Pentecostalism wrapped in seminary language. Doesn't change the fact that the movement began with a posessed woman calling chicken-scratch Chinese, and an outright denial of what Paul taught in Corinthians before Acts was even written.
Hi there, thank you so much for your feedback! I'm curious to know what you believe Paul taught in Corinthians would be counter to what Dr. Richie shared about Pentecostal theology? And how does the chronology of the writing of Acts and Corinthians impact Riche's explanation of Pentecostal theology?
@@JoshPSSamuel Paul taught in Corinthians that not everyone has the gift of tongues. This teaching was in public circulation probably 10 years before Acts was published. He also taught that tongues is "not a sign for believers" which means it should not be taught as "initial evidence." Otherwise, it would be a sign for believers to prove you have the Holy Spirit. He also taught that tongues should not be used in the assembly wihtout interpretation, which is the opposite of trying to get people to speak in tongues as proof of receiving the spirit. When Acts was written, it was documented to fulfill the sign that Paul said it was in Corinthians, which was a demonstration that the Gospel would go to the Gentiles after the Jews rejected it. That's why Luke demonstrates the sign happening publically among the Jews, and then among the Gentiles. The outward "sign to unbelievers" was fulfilled. Tongues is just one gift of the Spirit. People may have that gift, or they may have other gifts, which Paul makes clear. He also says that everyone has the Spirit praying through them with groanings "that cannot be uttered" (Romans 8) but that people speak in tongues "as the Spirit gave them utterance." (Act 2) Wrapping flowering language about Orthodoxy doesn't change the fact that Pentacostalism is by Biblical definition a heresy. It teaches something contrary to what the Apostles taught and then causes a division in the church on that basis. Because of their stubborn clinging to this doctrine that was invented by a bunch of superstitious, biblically illiterate people who thought automatic writing chickenscratch was chinese, thought England was Israel, and half-a-dozen other false thigns, you have the majority of Bible reading Spirit filled Christians stuck to choose between cessationist Churches who read the Bible and Charimatic/Pentecostal churches who ignore what it says in every single teaching about the gifts. For those of us who were given the gift of tongues and still acknowledge what the Bible says about the gifts, were left alone with few churches where we fit in.
@@JoshPSSamuel Just another point that you may want to take to Scripture: The Bible clearly deliniates between "believing" and being "saved" or "born again." Believing makes one "justified", but the baptism of the Spirit makes one "saved" (Titus 3:5) The first has to do with their legal standing, the second has to do with their spiritual state. There are people who believe, but never receive the Spirit. They were never born again if they haven't received the Spirit. Because Baptists, Pentecostals, and Reformed Christians equate believing with being born again, Pentecostals make the baptism of the Holy Spirit a "second blessing" and a kind of next-level annointing that some Christians have, and others do not. This causes a division that makes people out to be A-Team and B-Team Christians, which the Bible does not. The disciples in Acts 18 were not born again Christians. They were disciples of Apollos, who Priscilla and Aquilla had gotten up to speed. He was probably a disciple of John the Baptist and had no knowledge yet of the Baptism of the Spirit, so neither did his disciples.
Thanks, Josh, for the opportunity to share. I appreciate those who take the time to view and also those who comment. GBY
Thank you so much for joining the interview way back! Appreciate your pastoral and scholarly approach to ministry. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to reading your book on soteriology!
Thank you, Brothers. Blessings.🌹⭐🌹⭐
Thank you. 🙏🏼
Had Dr. Ritchie as a professor. He is spirit filled and academically extraordinary!
Thank you for this... It confirms everything I surmised about this movement. So grateful for God's saving grace that through His son Jesus Christ I now am forgiven and indwelt by His Holy Spirit and my faith will grow by the knowledge of His infallible written Word 😊🙏
May God bless you in your journey with Christ Shirley. 🙏🏽
Dr/Pastor Tony Richie is both a biblical scholar and anointed minister.
I agree. It's awesome when you have someone who combines both scholarly work with church ministry. So glad for His ministry!
As a reformed baptist i found this interview interesting & thoughtful
Thanks for your feedback. As someone from a Pentecostal background, I also love hearing from other theological traditions including Reformed Baptist. God bless. 🙏🏽
The best way to examine our doctrines and our denominational culture is to really compare it with the book of Acts.
Everyone is trying to find the full revelation on how to do ministry, how to be a disciple, but we miss it because we justify the disconnect on why our churches don’t look like theirs by creating doctrines to suit what our church is today... instead of taking the scriptures face value and ask ourselves what we’re missing. It has always been the working of the Holy Spirit’s power that we are missing. No matter how much intellect we have, if we are afraid of the Holy Ghost when He moves we will always be stuck in a place and culture of creating human activities to fill in what God has been trying to do, just like what we read in the book of Acts.
It’s why we come up with doctrines like cessationism.
Very good video, well done. I also caught and appreciated subtle music soundtrack too. 👍🏽
Hey thanks Jackie, I really appreciate your feedback! Glad you liked the video and music too! :)
Good point about danger of nationalism.
Thanks for your comments Kenneth, good to hear from you. Yes there certainly are dangers of nationalism.
The world needs this ministries included Indonesia we welcome your ministry
Thanks! May God bless you in Indonesia!
thx
No problem. May God bless you. 🙏🏼
A very good and informative interview, deserves more views and subscribers! God bless!
Thanks Ken, glad it was helpful! Appreciate your feedback. May God bless you too!
Thanks for this video, it's scholarly good
Hey thanks for the feedback! Really appreciate it. Glad it can be helpful. Take care and God bless.
Yes, Spirit baptism is the key. Ephesians 5:18-20 is the foundational text.
Spirit baptism is definitely an important teaching to discuss when addressing Pentecostalism.
They have church doctrine and that's what they believe and teach ! I use to attend a holiness/ oneness/Pentecostal church!!!
Is this oneness pentecostal or trinitarian pentecostal?
Hi Leo, Dr. Richie is coming from a Trinitarian Pentecostal perspective. 👍🏽
Of course they have a theology. They don't throw out half the Bible. They don't deny the power of God and the Holy Ghost. They believe men and women still are used by God. They believe that when it says these signs shall follow those that believe,. ...they don't try to explain it away. In the last days people will have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. 🙏🏽
The Apostle Paul was a Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Acts 2 38 hard core puro true bother
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You might enjoy Dr. David Reed's book on Oneness Pentecostalism: amzn.to/3ngWNAu
I wonder if John MacArthur ever met anybody like Tony Ritchie?
Dr. Tony Richie certainly is a solid Pentecostal theologian, grateful for people like him.
Saying the wrong thing with greater eloquance does not make it more true. I'm just hearing the same baseline false teachings of Pentecostalism wrapped in seminary language. Doesn't change the fact that the movement began with a posessed woman calling chicken-scratch Chinese, and an outright denial of what Paul taught in Corinthians before Acts was even written.
Hi there, thank you so much for your feedback! I'm curious to know what you believe Paul taught in Corinthians would be counter to what Dr. Richie shared about Pentecostal theology? And how does the chronology of the writing of Acts and Corinthians impact Riche's explanation of Pentecostal theology?
@@JoshPSSamuel
Paul taught in Corinthians that not everyone has the gift of tongues. This teaching was in public circulation probably 10 years before Acts was published.
He also taught that tongues is "not a sign for believers" which means it should not be taught as "initial evidence." Otherwise, it would be a sign for believers to prove you have the Holy Spirit.
He also taught that tongues should not be used in the assembly wihtout interpretation, which is the opposite of trying to get people to speak in tongues as proof of receiving the spirit.
When Acts was written, it was documented to fulfill the sign that Paul said it was in Corinthians, which was a demonstration that the Gospel would go to the Gentiles after the Jews rejected it. That's why Luke demonstrates the sign happening publically among the Jews, and then among the Gentiles. The outward "sign to unbelievers" was fulfilled.
Tongues is just one gift of the Spirit. People may have that gift, or they may have other gifts, which Paul makes clear. He also says that everyone has the Spirit praying through them with groanings "that cannot be uttered" (Romans 8) but that people speak in tongues "as the Spirit gave them utterance." (Act 2)
Wrapping flowering language about Orthodoxy doesn't change the fact that Pentacostalism is by Biblical definition a heresy. It teaches something contrary to what the Apostles taught and then causes a division in the church on that basis.
Because of their stubborn clinging to this doctrine that was invented by a bunch of superstitious, biblically illiterate people who thought automatic writing chickenscratch was chinese, thought England was Israel, and half-a-dozen other false thigns, you have the majority of Bible reading Spirit filled Christians stuck to choose between cessationist Churches who read the Bible and Charimatic/Pentecostal churches who ignore what it says in every single teaching about the gifts.
For those of us who were given the gift of tongues and still acknowledge what the Bible says about the gifts, were left alone with few churches where we fit in.
@@JoshPSSamuel Just another point that you may want to take to Scripture: The Bible clearly deliniates between "believing" and being "saved" or "born again." Believing makes one "justified", but the baptism of the Spirit makes one "saved" (Titus 3:5) The first has to do with their legal standing, the second has to do with their spiritual state.
There are people who believe, but never receive the Spirit. They were never born again if they haven't received the Spirit. Because Baptists, Pentecostals, and Reformed Christians equate believing with being born again, Pentecostals make the baptism of the Holy Spirit a "second blessing" and a kind of next-level annointing that some Christians have, and others do not. This causes a division that makes people out to be A-Team and B-Team Christians, which the Bible does not.
The disciples in Acts 18 were not born again Christians. They were disciples of Apollos, who Priscilla and Aquilla had gotten up to speed. He was probably a disciple of John the Baptist and had no knowledge yet of the Baptism of the Spirit, so neither did his disciples.
Ignorance...ignorance....ignorance.
23:30 "feel like the lord was reading me to write" (sell heretical books )
Thanks for sharing your feedback Ronald. I pray you have a great day. God bless.
26:50 " patriot " but claims being accurate about our enemies is "un-Amereican "
Thanks for sharing your feedback Ronald. I hope you have a great day. God bless.
Simply wasting time no profound outcome
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