I would like to personally give thank to Dr Michael Brown because I was deceived by Rabbi Tovia Singer and lost my faith in Jeshua. It was Dr Michael Brown , who by the grace of the Lord brought me back to Jeshua through his scolarly defense of the NT. Thank You Dr Brown for your ministery!❤
Yes well i do street evangelism in the UK and i got talking to a Jewish lady a couple of weeks ago and i pointed her to your books. So please i do need you to keep your integrity !! that is what this is about....
Hey Brother that is what they want us fighting or calling out people. Granted some of them have been burned by charismatic ministers and now theae critics have a vendetta against all charismatics. If we countinue will end up chasing our tails like dogs or playing waca mole it's exhausting. These critics will never be satisfied, at times is like an obsession for them. They like to be right all the time like the Pharisees of Jesus time. Blessings
Thank for your video covering this. I had to watch the whole thing after the chunk you showed. God really convicted me through this. It felt amazing. It'd been awhile since I'd felt that. Been a rough few years
Dr. Brown, this made my day! This is funnier than a stand up comedy special I’ve watched, lol. I always find these heretic hunters are all smoke and no fire. They’re like the two old men from the muppets, always have something to say, but will never do anything about it. Great video
So if there is a "christian" man fleecing the flock, teaching false docrtrines, and scamming and abusing people. im just supposed to shut up and focus on my lane?
This video is really an inspiration and encouragement for us as youngsters not to be lazy and toil for the kingdom of God. Dr. Michael Brown I've been blessed much by your ministry and this is now a real motivation for me to put all I have and serve the lord. Thank you for all you have rendered towards our edification and God bless you and your ministry more our lovely doc.
..but surely you research peoples doctrine and character before you appear on stage with them authenticating their ministry..... if you dont have time to do that then you shouldnt appear on stage with them... ..this doesnt really wash....
To all those *”Christians”* that criticize Charismatics I want you to show me *WHERE* did Jesus said that the miracles were going to cease 🙏🙏🙏. Last time I checked Jesus said *”Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and GREATER works than these he will do”*
You know exactly where in the scripture it states that it would stop and it did. You can't rationalize with irrational people, when the gifts stopped for over 1000 years. The evidence of facts weighs against all of you. When you are done being spiritually drunk, then we can have a rational conversation, until then, it will be impossible to discuss.
Thank you Dr. Brown for all the great work that you have done throughout the years! Sadly, these critics are only focused on attacking Dr. Brown for something that another person does.
Since I became a christian I have looked for leadership from people that are messianic jews. Unfortunately I was baptized in a church that follows John Macarthur. So thanks for all of these resources! Sincerely.
brother, friendly critic here. I think you are missing the center of the point. We are all thankful for your contributions, really. However, the fact is that you, along with folks like Sam Storms, are always cited by charismatic preachers as being the in-house scholars who give credibility to their viewpoints. That is how you are branded by the internet. And, one of the most egregious and famous charismatic preachers still to this day is Benny Hin. Through international icons like JESUS IMAGE, Benny Hin has retained popularity among millions of young charismatics. Please do them all a favor and recognize your simple responsibility to fairly analyze this guy and stop making excuses for how busy you are. Respectfully, you sort of walked into this by appearing on the round table that specifically brought up Benny Hin. No one is asking you to call out all the false teachers.
Ask him how much money he made from the books. It goes both ways, you have a platform that speaks to millions of people, if you see heresy, you call it out to warn people. That’s it and it wouldn’t hinder your main goal or focus. It’s funny the team quickly posted the link that happened a few weeks ago. But like you said, no one is condemning browns work or his calling, he agreed to the round table, he agreed for American Gospel, claims to not be associated with NAR, but he’s not part of the film anymore for a few reasons. At the end of the day, are all Charismatics bad? No. Do we have some that preach absolutely Heresy? Yes Do we have some that oppress the pour? Yes And do they need to be called out? Yes
I admire Dr Brown for all the hard work he has put in and the incredible breathtaking output in terms of books... unfortunately my life resembles Justin Peters more than Michael Brown meaning I watch RUclips videos and write critical comments about people.....
ON PROPHESY: If you host a Roundtable on prophesy, I put myself forward to be at the table, as I've written and published on the meanings of "prophesy", and now understand that God has made me a prophet ... BUT I'M NOT of the "everyone who wants to be a prophet can be" group, nor is Benny Hinn a prophet. God has verbally spoken to me, like little Samuel, and one vision, and other encounters. I didn't seek it out. Corrie Ten Boom told her story at the tiny 35 person church I attended as a boy. Also, an author named John Langer hears from God regularly. I consider Johnathan Cahn a prophet, although I've never spoken to him and I don't know if he accepts that mantle. The late Chuck Smith was a prophet. Prophets do not hear from God at their own will, and even Bible prophets seldom heard from God.
WOW!! ALL I can say to this is, "Verily, verily I say to you, I am a disgusting, pathetic walking waste of skin!" - Thank you for your dedication, Dr Brown! Nicely run race!
Hopefully this helps clear things up for all sides. This is Dr. Brown's position on the Benny Hinn issue as of now. (Quotes below from his live broadcast 4/2/24 "Does Benny Hinn Need To Repent?") Summary: Dr. Brown speaks on specific events if God calls him to, and he has addressed this general principle before. He will not judge Benny's salvation, but leaves that to God. He will not condemn this particular Benny issue because he has not done enough research for himself, to make sure all the evidence presented by Justin Peters is in the correct context. If it all is in correct context, Dr. Brown considers Benny to be a false teacher, heretic, shouldn't be in ministry. He agrees that Benny's own pledge he publicly announced is now condemning Benny based on his recent actions - Benny must repent and be accountable. He believes giving to a specific ministry to achieve financial breakthrough via God is sinful, abusive, and manipulative, and anyone who peddles this to get wealthy is sickening and abusive - God will judge. 39:00 I do address these things as God brings them to my attention, as I feel burdened to. Otherwise, I've addressed the issues. We've laid these things out for years. 39:36 As to judging the man's soul? No, God's his judge. That's my line that I draw, right here. 22:14 [Justin Peters et al.] read me a list of this, this, this, this, and I said, categorically... when they read their statements, categorically, I said if all that's true, then that person is a false teacher, that person is a heretic, that person should not be in ministry, categorically. So that's it. Where do I stand? That's where I stand, if all that's true, that's where I understand. 22:20 I've not done the research that Justin's done... he's done 100 times, 1000 times more research than i have, but I can't go by someone else's research unless I check for my [self]. You, if you're going to make public statements, you've got to check, you've got to verify, right? 12:40 I am saying his own words condemn him. He's done the exact opposite of what he's pledged never to do. He must repent and be accountable. 21:00 If you tell believers that the key to their financial breakthrough is for them to give to your ministry, that is sinful, abusive, and manipulative. Worse still, if you then use their money to enrich yourself, that is sickening and detestable. You will give account to God! 33:30 His own words are condemning him, in terms of what he's saying.
I appreciate all the books you have written. There is some great stuff there. I personally don't do all that because I'm not in fulltime ministry. I work on my business. But even if I were fulltime, I doubt I could do all that research. Having said all that, John MacArthur has done a lot of work and built a seminary and college etc. He has preached through the entire NT and many OT books. RC Sproul did a lot too. Yet, they criticize the charismatic movement as well. I personally spend a lot of time in my mid to late 20's fighting legal battles for the right to street preach in Australia. Fought all the top Australian Barristers and Queens Councils in the High Court of Australia without using a lawyer and won the right to street preach Australia wide. I also spend a number of years in the Muslim NO-GO Zones in the UK witnessing to Muslims in their homes.
But see that is exactly the problem. When MacArthur "call's out" charismatic error he does little to no personal research and whatever "calling out" he does is clearly not done in good faith. Michael Brown will not tell someone off without understanding clearly what they are about and what they are teaching. He is saying that calling someone else out appropriately in a way that will allow his conscience to be clean before God on judgement day is going to take time and dedication that he simply does not have. And it is deeply concerning that so many Christians think it is that simple. (edit : in M Brown's list of books there are quite a few books written naming others by name whenever it becomes absolutely necessary - including one in which he ironically calls MacArthur out for false teaching on the gifts of the Holy Spirit)
Cessationist arguments are old and just re-packaged. literally every argument has been answered by genuine charismatics (to specify that there are obvious false 'charismatic' teachers). The bible is continuationist. Do some abuse it? Of course. But that's why Paul wrote 1 Corinthians- because of abuse. Does that mean we just throw out what God has called us to live in? No. We correct the falseness biblically and live God fearing bible obeying lives.
and by the way, the point of the video went right over your head. Not only is it the time that it takes to work on other material but the primary point of the video is the calling. He doesn't feel that's the primary calling the LORD has placed on him.
Well said! Thank you for taking time to love them and have discussions with them despite their continued demand for more. Glad you reminded us of what God’s grace has accomplished in your life. Sadly, like Paul, you had to list your ministry accomplishments and God ordained priorities. Their pet peeves in ministry are not anyone else’s priority accept those called to it. Your humility was and is appreciated. ❤ Romans 14:4, “Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.”
@MixhaelBaez Brother, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Copeland and Dollar are not the focus of my walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!” Jesus says to every one of us Who are baptised in His Name to "Follow Him". He who has an ear [anyone who is a child of the living God], let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’ ”
Anytime you disagree with Justin Peters and JMAC, you are going to get whacked on. Beware of the leaven of the Scribes and Pharisees. “The God Picture” is an entire systematic theology for regular people.
You 're right ,there IS a proverb says:"dogs bark when the caravan moving on". Justin Peters has the time to watch the videos of Benny hinn ,Joyce Mayer and others for finding something to critisize....that reminds me about the story of a blind man in John 9:13-34.
Well said, we all think we know it all because we can research. Sure, make educates choices but we are burdened with knowledge and still need experts, actual experts who have proven their abilities and value like Dr. Brown. Something is happening where we are falling into extremes and losing our ability to see the fruit of the ministry. He has the fruit people and the academic work to prove it. Amen and thank you, sir.
I’m not aware of all of the criticisms, but you chose to come on a show to talk about this very issue. I don’t think anybody’s asking for you or anyone to make “calling out charasmatics” to be part of their ministry. That being said, Someone like Benny Hinn is one of the most egregious. I was concerned over a year ago, when I continued to see Bethel and others give him a platform…The charismatic church loses credibility when they don’t police their own…Almost Zero discipline..This comes off as “gaslighting”.
Appreciate your contribution to the Body Dr. Brown! When I wanted to study cessationsim and continuationism I read both "Strange fire" and "Authentic fire" and I was really blessed by that. God bless 🤠
Dr Brown did just like Paul, if any man have confidence in the flesh, I more. Go ahead off on everyone Dr Brown. Keep up the good work brother. The Lord bless you richly.
That's a lot of books you've written. No-one could accuse you of being lazy. You have remained true to your calling and have not been sidetracked into areas to which the Lord has not called you. Good on you bro. Keep up the good work.
Dr. Brown as much as I love Dr. James White's materials, I firmly believe that God has equipped you so much in expansion of his kingdom. Thank you for your ministry God bless!
I read moody handbook of messianic prophecies a few weeks ago and what you did for that book was no small contribution. I’m sure you could have put more books on that table.
Michael Brown also agrees that 'the church' needs to call out those who contradict sound doctrine..... his point is that it is not his calling.... judging by the stack of books in front of him.... he has been very busy!!!
What you might be missing is Dr. Brown's definition of false teachers from the Bible. The same standard you use would also mean that Luther was a false teacher. He clearly departed from sound doctrine in way worse ways than Hinn does. Why aren't Justin Peters and others willing to label Luther a false teacher? To be clear, I find Hinn detestable and to be a false teacher, but I'm not demanding that Dr. Brown use my exact words towards Hinn like others are.
The irony is that Hinn, Copeland and their ilk are doing precisely what the Roman Church did in Luther's day - telling people if they pay them money then God will bless them and their families. Luther was utterly sound on the essence of the gospel - charlatans like Hinn and Copeland are not - I utterly condemn Luther's comments against the Jewish people, but still believe he was a genuine Christian and one used to advance the cause of God and Truth more than virtually anyone else in church history. Additionally, he showed immense courage and knew that his stand for the gospel was highly likely to result in his being burnt alive, but he stood firm for the gospel despite that very real threat - the only thing that Hinn and Copeland are concerned about is fleecing vulnerable people put of their money. I used to have a lot of respect for Dr Brown and have found many of his books to have great value, but this is a terrible cause to fight for in the way that he is.
@Sansho1954 What cause is Dr. Brown fighting for that you disaprove of? He hasn't defended Hinn. He called Hinn out publicly, along with others over the years. Concerning Luther Do you really believe that telling people to burn down homes and kill people is not as bad as asking for money? He actually said that God told him to kill people. You're applying an unequal standard. If you demand that people come out extremely harsh towards Hinn, then the same should apply to Luther.
Many of these evangelical critics want blood. They demand charismatic leaders condemn to hell those charismatics whom these evangelical leaders have targeted. When charismatics refuse, these particular evangelicals become piously indignant. Part of the shaking we are in has to do with God exposing judgmental attitudes in us which are akin to Moses shouting "must WE bring forth water for these rebels?!" and striking the rock. The door for these leaders to repent of this sort of thing is closing. It's one thing to address doctrinal errors or certain behaviors while not passing final eternal judgment on those teaching it. Questioning the why and the how of doctrine and behavoir, yes absolutely but unless the person is in blatant sin, we can't declare them to be "false brethren". If they are in sin, it should be handled the way Todd Bentley's situation was eventually dealt with. So those who won't heed the still small voice of the Holy Spirit in these matters are going to find their spiritual lives drying up. God requires we be faithful in that which is least. If we are so callous as to pass these kinds of unrighteous eternal judgments that are a false weight against people, God WILL NOT trust us with His power and His anointing.
Claiming expertise based on the number of books written, undermines the value of the written word. Many books argue that the Earth is flat, deny the moon landing, or suggest 9/11 was an inside job. Despite the amount of books these ideas remain false. Similarly, writing thousands of books on any topic, like Jesus being the Jewish messiah, doesn't inherently make the claims true. I see the argument of "look how many books I have written" being a very unintelligent one. I don't remember watching a rabbi bragging about the amount of books he has written. Secondly, you may have expertise on one thing but not on another. Let's say that you are a good scientist, that doesn't make you a good theologian or vice versa. You may have written good books about human rights or LGBT, but as far as I can tell all your books written about Jesus and or Judaism, have no merit. It doesn't prove anything. It's just a word salad, pressed together in books. The only time I could see someone bragging about books, is the amount of endorsements he received. Let's say you claim that 10 ultra Orthodox Jewish Rabbis have been convinced by your books, that would be something. Brother, you haven't. Books are meaningless. Unless it's a book that teaches you for exemple how to fly an Airplane. And you see people actually taking off based on a book.
THIS BROUGHT ME GREAT JOY AND ALSO IT IS REALLY SAD ! I HAD GREAT JOY BECAUSE YOU SAID WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID. IT'S REALLY SAD THAT WE HAVE CALLED OURSELVES CHRISTIANS AND HAVE NOT LEARNED FROM THE CHRIST. THE ASKING OF CHRIST STILL REMAINS . I AM LOWLY AND HUMBLE ,TAKE MY YOKE AND LEARN FROM ME. SO MANY FALSE BROTHERS AND SISTERS . THAT'S WHAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT . TIME TO GET REAL WITH THE LORD ,STOP RUNNING A GAME UP IN HERE. GOD'S NOT FOOLIN ,YOU THINK MR BROWN GETTING A LITTLE HOT (HE'S NOT) HE'S COOL AS A CUCUMBER . YET I KNOW ONE WHO GOT FIRE IN HIS EYES ,SO YOU BEST BE WATCHING THOSE LIES GUYS.
" ... for I know Whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He Is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day." 11Timothy 1:12b
Dr Brown you make a good point at tge same times the wolves are ravaging the sick and poor making commerce of them and you should take the warnings from people who study the topic seriously. I love you but you give those wolves cover. You’re brilliant and I love you as an elder of the faith. I pray one day you take some time to really study those wolves you already know a lot in all those things you wrote about. If you wanna see revival Dr Brown. Take the time just a little time it won’t take long and call out those blatant blasphemers in your camp and I bet you would see revival as charasmatics come out of the teaching of those wolves. Then maybe true repentance leading to revival would come and true fire from heaven would light the altar
Don’t trust your feelings (nor other’s feelings). He was humble and very clear to why he showed the books. He wasn’t making an argument but asking the critics to use equal measures. For example, there is a reason why Peters doesn’t confront Islam- he is being faithful to his specific calling. Brown is being faithful to his and others need to stop expecting him to do what they think he should do. Don’t judge another man’s servant- that’s Bible, you can trust that 😉 Romans 14:4, “Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.”
Nothing you say will make a difference to them. You should just ignore the little minded gnats like Justin Peters and Seiko Woods and they will all eventually fade away. Your calling is not to find fault in others and publicly shame the. Stay in your own lanes. Stop lowering yourself to their level. You are better than this. Stop feeding the trolls. Please. Amen.
I am a big fan of Dr Brown, but Justin Peters (who I don't always agree with) does make a good point that you should be able to admit that Benny Hinn is unqualified for ministry. If you have time to write all these books (that are good) you should have time to make a statement that Benny Hinn is a wolf and unqualified for ministry.
Well, then Justin Peters should write a commentary as well.... If JP has so much time to be watching RUclips videos and criticising charismatics.... then he should surely have the time to write a commentary.
Agreed. All I could think, as a pastor who has appreciated the books I have read by him, is that while watching this long drawn out piling up of credentials and accomplishments is how it doesn’t take almost any knowledge and discernment to identify wolves like Benny Hinn. It doesn’t take studying all of his sermons or listening to his financial appeals and twisting of Scripture. It takes maybe 5 minutes of research. No more than an hour at most. And it doesn’t require a special calling to answer this. I knew the answer as a new believer just by reading the New Testament. I didn’t need to publish a book to spot an obvious false prophet or warn people about one. Some other people are not as obvious though.
..so with all that work it is even more important that you are seen to be above board in who you mix with and who you give the right hand of fellowship to... assuming that you are honest yourself...
Dr Brown you done shy away from the issues even if they are delinquent. In this situation can or should Matthew 10:14 be applied? Can one tell these critics move on and basically say, ‘I explain my feeling on your issue as it appears in the Word, go bother someone else?’ Please. Lovely video.
Dr Brown ,u are an Amazing man of God .cessationists have nothing to do except critising and stucking in their own limited thoughts and their poor psychology....
Although I admire the work Justin Peters does, the only thing I will take from him is the criticality of discerning what people teach in the name of God and the things they do, for that I am thankful. That's all, and no cessationism. To me he seems more wrath and condemnation than paving a way for that person to turn back to God. I don't see any love for the person he is criticizing although he says so. I am not an American, if people were to reach out to the lost and confused in country like mine, the way Justin ministers, you would have more haters of God than actual repentance. You have to be creative like Paul. You can't just come and say sinners prayer in the face while being full of wrath. I don't buy how cessationists determine for God what God can and can't do. We in our country have seen works of God that will shake you to the core with fear of God. And when I hear cessationists talk about how God has stopped working nowadays, I see their arguments as empty as an abandoned house. If hyper charisma becomes major will cause problems. If cessationism becomes major that also is a problem because then christianity will be just another religion that is as dull and empty as the rest.
I have to doubt that you watched or else paid little attention to Justin's videos. Very often in his videos he makes appeals directly to those in error to repent. I don't have a good measuring stick on "love", so we'll have to leave that as more subjective. And since you brought up Paul, Paul called out people by name when he was deserted by those who were brothers, or turned on him, or spread sinful talk (which he said would spread like gangrene). Dr. Brown does work in reaching out to the Jewish community and defends his perspective on the gifts. Great. Justin Peters is an evangelist and travels all over to give presentations for the gospel. You are within your rights to criticize Justin on cessationism if you like. It is also fair to criticize Dr. Brown for providing cover for those who abuse people in the name of God, like Sid Roth, Benny Hinn, and Ken Copeland.
@@sneaksyranger You have understood me wrong. I am not against what Justin is doing, I said "I admire his work" didn't I?. But I am not fond of the way he approaches. If you come straight with sinners prayer and say things like you will burn in hell and heres the sinners prayer, although that may be true for that person it will 9/10 push that person further away and make them blinder as they'll just avoid you. Just recently, Justin posted a video on Kanye, I agree everything he said but not how he approached by slamming sinners prayer at the end of video. Making people hear sinners prayer is not how gospel reaches people. Never. Look at that video, and say honestly if Kanye were to watch it would he turn back and reflect? NO, You would just push him away. Im not against calling out people, people in error should be corrected.
If all the servants would gather to be united by the Spirit of Elohim as the genuine body of Messiah, their service would be much more effective. Rather, they work as independent ministries which too often end up distracting and dividing believers instead of gathering the body to be united by the Spirit of Elohim in Yeshua's Name. The Scriptures Old and New clearly state that Elohim expects His servants to unite and work cohesively as one. Yeshua prayed for us to be one as He and His Father are One. That is Biblical unity, not the shameful mess we see today. Elohim expects His congregation to have and maintain this level of unity just as His Son Yeshua earnestly prayed for it. That being the case the cohesive, schism-free unity is possible for those who choose to believe and obey Elohim to focus getting whosever wills to gather together for the purpose purged of self and sin to be united as the spotless body and bride of Messiah. Then the Everlasting Arms of Elohim will show forth His Beneficence and Power through us. Then the world will know that Elohim has indeed sent His Uniquely Born Son Yeshua the Elect One in the world.
The issue is that when some one has done the research to show that Kenneth Copland is a false teacher, you say that you have not done the research... which means that you should either defer to research done by others, or you should actually do the research to show how they are wrong. You are wanting to both defend Sid Roth based on your relationship alone. We know that relationship alone is not enough, you have just told us this fact when you pointed to Judas. Therefore if you want to defend Sid Roth, actually watch his videos. If you want to defend Kenneth Copland watch his videos. Do the research before you defend these people. If you do not have time because of the calling that God has put on your life, then ok. If however you want to defend them, then you need to do the work of researching them.
I have listened to a bit of Kenneth teaching on youtube, seems fine to me, anything you can point out to me specifically since you are calling him a false teacher? All I remember him talking about is healing, do not fear or worry its as sin, stand on Gods word, check everything he says with scripture, don't trust him trust scripture. Do not accept anything contrary to Gods word. Since you are accusing him publicly I would like some evidence. From what I heard Michael brown never brings up these subjects of defending these people and he says as far as I know they are a brother or I don't know. Maybe he is preoccupied with doing what God called him to do not find every bad thing people do.
Dr. Brown did agree that they would be false teachers if what Justin said is true. He said that numerous times. You claimed that Dr. Brown is defending them. Do you have some examples of Dr. Brown defending them?
I know this most likely won’t be read, and that’s okay, just remember, and bring to mind, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, who was, is, and forever will be God, our Savior, 100 % God 100% man, was questioned by Satan at 3 different times directly just in one example to his face. He questioned his credentials, his deity, his Title, his Godliness in all forms and fashions, and yet what does Jesus do, that is different than any man’s typical reply???? Nothing…… but scripture! He doesn’t give him his Title, His status, anything because that all stems from the root of prideful, arrogance, boastfulness, and an evil place in general. So if Jesus being perfect, doesn’t have to respond back when being questioned ,which, if anyone has the right too it is him, yet, he didn’t, what are we doing????? If Jesus didn’t have to defend him self, like a lamb lead to the slaughter, didn’t have to make a defense for himself, because he knows who he is, he has trust in his Father and his established place, we don’t. We do it out of anger, pride, arrogance, yet our savior if we truly cared about walking in his foot steps should realize we should pray for those who speak badly against us not coming out of a defense when we know it is the evilness of this earth who that really is at the end of the day, just like Jesus did and didn’t make a defense or felt like he had to give one! - Matthew 4 - Isaiah 53
I am a big fan of Michael Brown. I really appreciate him as a leader in the body of Christ, but yes, this does seem a bit of a put down. Might have been better not to have made it.
Dear Dr. Brown, it is sad to see you disregard the prophets and prophecies that God gave his servants to guide and give clarity to the church in this long season of change for America and the entire world. Why would you say they should not be listened to? The word clearly says in 2 Chronicles 20:20 - Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. Just because things didn't turn out as was expected does not mean they lied or did not hear God. In the Bible, God gave a prophecy that the children of Israel would only be in Egypt for 400 years; they ended up being there for 430. It doesn't mean God lied or that his will didn't come to pass. God's word is true and doesn't work alone; He works with the church, and even if circumstances don't seem to line up, God's word remains true. By the way, why are you concerned about how the church 'looks' to unbelievers? They are in darkness and they are under the influence of their father the devil. Our job is to be the salt and light to them so that they can be delivered into the kingdom of light; we are not called to cater to their disdain for the church. Why did you go and answer to them and participate in the secular article they wrote, 'apologizing' to them on behalf of the church? Who asked you to do that? Did God tell you to do that? What made you feel the need to help Him 'clean up' His image. You reached out to many leaders in the body of Christ and made them 'repent' and apologize because Trump was denied his rightful seat when the elections were stolen. When did you take the time to go into God's presence and ask Him and He told you the prophets were all wrong? It is not your place to 'call out' prophets and judge them. You have a lot of following and you are influencing many people to be scared of prophecies and the leadership of the Holy Spirit to His church at large. It is still God's will for Trump to be president again; the church needs to understand this, stand in the place of prayer and stand against corruption. God on the other hand can defend Himself and His image.
Dr Brown. With all respect, it would be fine if you refused to denounce people as false this or that if you said I don’t consume their content so I couldn’t say tie the way. But you do say either way. You speak positively, you promote, you encourage, you rebuke criticism, you abhor the language used - but then when someone say “but… then your book table comes out”. Yes our critics are not prolific authors. But you’re playing games here. Yes you have called people out - yes you have made public issues you find. But when someone does their homework, which is what you’re almost mocking here, on those who prove to be outside of orthodox either praxis or belief, then you simply brush it off as either an over reach (but you haven’t read/watched their content) or you couldn’t say either way because you don’t know them personally to make that critique. Your point here is clear. But you’re missing the primary issue raised by others. Mike winger is a good example - he sees massive issue with Benny Hinn, does an expose and then suddenly you pay attention and have time to process the content. Your ministry is greatly appreciated, but you really have missed the point of the issues being presented. That said, thank God for your fine work. I hope it’s the last time you ever put it on display in this manner as I truly believe you went down to the level of Jp and the others often come across as haughty. I trust God will continue to use you, especially in the evangelisation of Jews. God bless!
I’ve never got a good answer from Continuists. If tongues continues, and by that I mean tongues is to be the normative Christian experience, then why isn’t the Acts 2 version of tongues normative? Why isn’t the normal evangelistic problem of witnessing to someone whose language you cannot speak, the gift of tongues. The only normative tongues out there is gibberish, yo say I need to believe by faith is an actual language. There is a way to prove your point. Show Acts 2 kind of tongues is normative among your version of Christianity.
@@kellydarrius They are not. I believe Paul was rebuking the Corinthian church for the misuse of tongues. But let’s assume I’m wrong. Acts 2 tongues is a type of tongues that is interpretive. It allows a person to communicate with someone who he could not communicate because of a language barrier. Therefore, there would need to be two kinds of tongues in the Bible. Both would need to be the normal Christian experience. One for prayer, one for evangelism. Where is interpretive, Acts 2 tongues the normal evangelistic experience among Pentecostals?
@mikeyant2445 Wherever is Acts 2 tongues biblically set forth as a normal (e.g. common) experience? We see it demonstrated nowhere else other than Acts 2. Besides that, Acts 2 tongues happened spontaneously under an intense move of God, likely without the awareness of the speakers knowing they were communicating universally. Until we see a move of God not unlike Acts 2. I wouldn't expect to hear any such tongues. I've heard of it happening from one reliable witness I know (who is quite critical of charismtaic excesses), but I don't understand where you get the idea of this being a normal Christian experience.
@@kellydarrius You’ll understand why that sounds like special pleading to Cessationists. Acts 2 is where Tongues is defined. Even in I Cor Paul defers to this interpretation; he says both that he spoke in tongues more than all of them, and that his tongues involved the spirit and understanding. How does one man speak in tongues more than you all, or unless theirs is not real tongues. At any rate…it is not for no reason we don’t believe in modern tongues.
@@mikeyant2445 His tongues did not involve understanding. 1 Corinthians 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. To assume otherwise is to fundamentally misunderstand 1 Corinthians 14.
Just subscribed to your channel, Dr. Brown. Despite some theological disagreements, I have high respect for your and your ministry and I’m praying God continues to bless you and your listeners. Your love for Christ and proclaiming the gospel is unmatched, especially compared to those critics. Keep fighting for the truth!
Minute 14:00 yes, that pose right there is called checkmate! But because Dr. Brown is humble he won't make that flex. I found the line of fire on the radio when I used drive home from work. That was my 1st introduction to Dr. Brown. I've listened to his conversion testimony more than once. I've learned a lot from this man of God. Thank you Sir! You are certainly living on purpose, Godly purpose ✨️ 🙏🏾 🙌🏾 I can bet you really didn't want to make this kind of a video but sometimes we have to stand up for ourselves and check some folks.
That’s a strawman cessationist calls out nonsense that brings shame to the Gospel found in the charismatic movement with the nonsense people call the gifts of TGE spirit
@@MixhaelBaezbrother perhaps some cessationists. But a decent amount I’ve seen seem to disrespect charismatics and call us deluded for believing what the word of God explicitly teaches. As far as I agree that we as charismatics have been too charitable to charlatans who abuse gifting.
@@joshuapizarro3231 I was a Charasmatic for years. I can speak in youngest, have “prophecied” and seen “visions” my church used to call me a “seer”. My old pastor still thinks I’m a prophet. The reality is that there is a lot of craziness in the movement.
Well said addressing this Dr Brown!!! Someone needs to address how the reality is they are just Slandering in a religious spirit those they disagree with on the things of the Spirit. To justify themselves they say these men are hell bound just because they hate their ministry practices and theology. Do I agree or you agree with it all no absolutely not, But that doesn’t make someone Biblically a false teacher! Loved Daniel Kolenda videos on calling our cessationism of the heresy it is as a doctrine itself. Not to say those men are not saved. But I believe their sinful slander and gossip and false witness of leaders they don’t agree with needs to be actually adressed for what it is! Justin Peters actually and the other guy because of this they actually truly need to be called to repentance and correction. The way they are going about their slandering trying to justify with what they have conviced themselves out of their own deception is actually sin. Great video Dr brown! I love you and you have always been a blessing to me! I remember when you came and I talked to you to our church in Fredericksburg Virginia. ❤
I’d like to see a video response from your critics on this video. Oh, I forgot it’s not their calling, and it’s not their gifting and they don’t have the time to do so. I see, I see..
Dr. Brown, please ignore these people. Everyone wants to hear opinions instead of the Word of God. It’s unfortunate that people are known more for what they are against than for their faith. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (Romans 10:17). All this Paul vs. Apollos crap needs to stop. I pray our brothers and sisters across various denominations desire the Word more than Social Media Wars between people of faith. Philippians 1:15-18 King James Version 15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will: 16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds: 17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel. 18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Dr Brown, I completely understand your frustration ! I would recommend that during your intro that you state that you are an independent preacher/ teacher/ evangelist, that you are not affiliated with any other pastors and do not endorse them unless specifically stated. It’s a shame that we have men that claim to be promoting Christ.. but are doing the opposite. The reason they are so aggressive with their criticism is because they are members of a dying denomination / group. I grew up in a dead church, we read about miracles but never discussed them. At the age of 18 as a high school failure, a useless pot head I walked into an Assembly Of God Church, the pastor preached boldly in the spirit. He spoke of Sin, miracles and redemption. The third Sunday I attended when they gave the alter call, I knew that if I didn’t answer the call, I would probably never walk into church again. I accepted Christ that day, with no thought about quitting marijuana, I quit that day because the desire was gone, I finished high school and went on to get a degree in Engineering. ( sad note of interest, Justin Peters even criticized the students praying at the alter during Asbury revival) Cessation churches have little to offer a broken person that desperately needs Christ.
I would like to personally give thank to Dr Michael Brown because I was deceived by Rabbi Tovia Singer and lost my faith in Jeshua.
It was Dr Michael Brown , who by the grace of the Lord brought me back to Jeshua through his scolarly defense of the NT.
Thank You Dr Brown for your ministery!❤
Yes well i do street evangelism in the UK and i got talking to a Jewish lady a couple of weeks ago and i pointed her to your books. So please i do need you to keep your integrity !! that is what this is about....
Hey Brother that is what they want us fighting or calling out people. Granted some of them have been burned by charismatic ministers and now theae critics have a vendetta against all charismatics. If we countinue will end up chasing our tails like dogs or playing waca mole it's exhausting. These critics will never be satisfied, at times is like an obsession for them. They like to be right all the time like the Pharisees of Jesus time. Blessings
this was amazing 🤣🤣🤣
Thank for your video covering this. I had to watch the whole thing after the chunk you showed. God really convicted me through this. It felt amazing. It'd been awhile since I'd felt that. Been a rough few years
fr. You put me on to Dr. Michael Brown. Bros smooth as butter w the critics. Please have him on your stream. I will give you ten super fans
Thank you Dr Brown for your incredible output of work for the kingdom. 😇😇😇
Dr. Brown, this made my day! This is funnier than a stand up comedy special I’ve watched, lol. I always find these heretic hunters are all smoke and no fire. They’re like the two old men from the muppets, always have something to say, but will never do anything about it. Great video
It's much easier to criticise than to make a useful contribution. God bless you Dr. Brown. Thank you for your work in the Kingdom of God.
So if there is a "christian" man fleecing the flock, teaching false docrtrines, and scamming and abusing people. im just supposed to shut up and focus on my lane?
This video is really an inspiration and encouragement for us as youngsters not to be lazy and toil for the kingdom of God. Dr. Michael Brown I've been blessed much by your ministry and this is now a real motivation for me to put all I have and serve the lord. Thank you for all you have rendered towards our edification and God bless you and your ministry more our lovely doc.
Thank you for all you do for our Lord’s Kingdom! ❤ It has helped so many in their walk of faith.
..but surely you research peoples doctrine and character before you appear on stage with them authenticating their ministry..... if you dont have time to do that then you shouldnt appear on stage with them... ..this doesnt really wash....
To all those *”Christians”* that criticize Charismatics I want you to show me *WHERE* did Jesus said that the miracles were going to cease 🙏🙏🙏. Last time I checked Jesus said *”Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and GREATER works than these he will do”*
And remember - 'greater' does not mean more profound works. Greater speaks of volume.
@@richardthelionheart01 However you want to put it , Jesus doesn’t say that it would stop
You know exactly where in the scripture it states that it would stop and it did. You can't rationalize with irrational people, when the gifts stopped for over 1000 years. The evidence of facts weighs against all of you. When you are done being spiritually drunk, then we can have a rational conversation, until then, it will be impossible to discuss.
@@HAChrist -“You know -*-EXACTLY-*- “- No I don’t because no such idiocy exists
@@HAChrist -“The evidence of -*-FACTS-*- “- You probably also believe in pre tribulation and a fairy tale 3rd Temple
Dr. Brown. Thank you for serving as a scribe and the good you do for the real body of Messiah.
There has never been, and shall never be a man of God, doing God‘s work, who is not maligned And attacked. Usually by those who do nothing.
Thank you Dr. Brown for all the great work that you have done throughout the years! Sadly, these critics are only focused on attacking Dr. Brown for something that another person does.
Since I became a christian I have looked for leadership from people that are messianic jews. Unfortunately I was baptized in a church that follows John Macarthur. So thanks for all of these resources! Sincerely.
brother, friendly critic here. I think you are missing the center of the point. We are all thankful for your contributions, really. However, the fact is that you, along with folks like Sam Storms, are always cited by charismatic preachers as being the in-house scholars who give credibility to their viewpoints. That is how you are branded by the internet. And, one of the most egregious and famous charismatic preachers still to this day is Benny Hin. Through international icons like JESUS IMAGE, Benny Hin has retained popularity among millions of young charismatics. Please do them all a favor and recognize your simple responsibility to fairly analyze this guy and stop making excuses for how busy you are. Respectfully, you sort of walked into this by appearing on the round table that specifically brought up Benny Hin. No one is asking you to call out all the false teachers.
From the Line of Fire team: In case you missed this, ruclips.net/user/live-_bLSbnpfDA.
Ask him how much money he made from the books. It goes both ways, you have a platform that speaks to millions of people, if you see heresy, you call it out to warn people. That’s it and it wouldn’t hinder your main goal or focus.
It’s funny the team quickly posted the link that happened a few weeks ago. But like you said, no one is condemning browns work or his calling, he agreed to the round table, he agreed for American Gospel, claims to not be associated with NAR, but he’s not part of the film anymore for a few reasons. At the end of the day, are all Charismatics bad? No.
Do we have some that preach absolutely Heresy? Yes
Do we have some that oppress the pour? Yes
And do they need to be called out? Yes
Don’t demean yourself with all this justification.
Love you bro!
I admire Dr Brown for all the hard work he has put in and the incredible breathtaking output in terms of books... unfortunately my life resembles Justin Peters more than Michael Brown meaning I watch RUclips videos and write critical comments about people.....
Love your book on Job Dr Brown it gave me the courage to name my son Job
ON PROPHESY: If you host a Roundtable on prophesy, I put myself forward to be at the table, as I've written and published on the meanings of "prophesy", and now understand that God has made me a prophet ... BUT I'M NOT of the "everyone who wants to be a prophet can be" group, nor is Benny Hinn a prophet. God has verbally spoken to me, like little Samuel, and one vision, and other encounters. I didn't seek it out. Corrie Ten Boom told her story at the tiny 35 person church I attended as a boy. Also, an author named John Langer hears from God regularly. I consider Johnathan Cahn a prophet, although I've never spoken to him and I don't know if he accepts that mantle. The late Chuck Smith was a prophet. Prophets do not hear from God at their own will, and even Bible prophets seldom heard from God.
WOW!! ALL I can say to this is, "Verily, verily I say to you, I am a disgusting, pathetic walking waste of skin!" - Thank you for your dedication, Dr Brown! Nicely run race!
Thank you Dr. Brown! Well said!
Hopefully this helps clear things up for all sides. This is Dr. Brown's position on the Benny Hinn issue as of now. (Quotes below from his live broadcast 4/2/24 "Does Benny Hinn Need To Repent?") Summary: Dr. Brown speaks on specific events if God calls him to, and he has addressed this general principle before. He will not judge Benny's salvation, but leaves that to God. He will not condemn this particular Benny issue because he has not done enough research for himself, to make sure all the evidence presented by Justin Peters is in the correct context. If it all is in correct context, Dr. Brown considers Benny to be a false teacher, heretic, shouldn't be in ministry. He agrees that Benny's own pledge he publicly announced is now condemning Benny based on his recent actions - Benny must repent and be accountable. He believes giving to a specific ministry to achieve financial breakthrough via God is sinful, abusive, and manipulative, and anyone who peddles this to get wealthy is sickening and abusive - God will judge.
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I do address these things as God brings them to my attention, as I feel burdened to. Otherwise, I've addressed the issues. We've laid these things out for years.
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As to judging the man's soul? No, God's his judge. That's my line that I draw, right here.
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[Justin Peters et al.] read me a list of this, this, this, this, and I said, categorically... when they read their statements, categorically, I said if all that's true, then that person is a false teacher, that person is a heretic, that person should not be in ministry, categorically. So that's it. Where do I stand? That's where I stand, if all that's true, that's where I understand.
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I've not done the research that Justin's done... he's done 100 times, 1000 times more research than i have, but I can't go by someone else's research unless I check for my [self]. You, if you're going to make public statements, you've got to check, you've got to verify, right?
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I am saying his own words condemn him. He's done the exact opposite of what he's pledged never to do. He must repent and be accountable.
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If you tell believers that the key to their financial breakthrough is for them to give to your ministry, that is sinful, abusive, and manipulative. Worse still, if you then use their money to enrich yourself, that is sickening and detestable. You will give account to God!
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His own words are condemning him, in terms of what he's saying.
Great job!! Actual facts instead of conjecture.
@@clayw70 thanks! Everyone piling on from both sides was bugging me.
I appreciate all the books you have written. There is some great stuff there. I personally don't do all that because I'm not in fulltime ministry. I work on my business. But even if I were fulltime, I doubt I could do all that research. Having said all that, John MacArthur has done a lot of work and built a seminary and college etc. He has preached through the entire NT and many OT books. RC Sproul did a lot too. Yet, they criticize the charismatic movement as well. I personally spend a lot of time in my mid to late 20's fighting legal battles for the right to street preach in Australia. Fought all the top Australian Barristers and Queens Councils in the High Court of Australia without using a lawyer and won the right to street preach Australia wide. I also spend a number of years in the Muslim NO-GO Zones in the UK witnessing to Muslims in their homes.
But see that is exactly the problem. When MacArthur "call's out" charismatic error he does little to no personal research and whatever "calling out" he does is clearly not done in good faith. Michael Brown will not tell someone off without understanding clearly what they are about and what they are teaching. He is saying that calling someone else out appropriately in a way that will allow his conscience to be clean before God on judgement day is going to take time and dedication that he simply does not have. And it is deeply concerning that so many Christians think it is that simple. (edit : in M Brown's list of books there are quite a few books written naming others by name whenever it becomes absolutely necessary - including one in which he ironically calls MacArthur out for false teaching on the gifts of the Holy Spirit)
Cessationist arguments are old and just re-packaged.
literally every argument has been answered by genuine charismatics (to specify that there are obvious false 'charismatic' teachers).
The bible is continuationist.
Do some abuse it? Of course. But that's why Paul wrote 1 Corinthians- because of abuse.
Does that mean we just throw out what God has called us to live in? No. We correct the falseness biblically and live God fearing bible obeying lives.
and by the way, the point of the video went right over your head.
Not only is it the time that it takes to work on other material but the primary point of the video is the calling. He doesn't feel that's the primary calling the LORD has placed on him.
Well said! Thank you for taking time to love them and have discussions with them despite their continued demand for more. Glad you reminded us of what God’s grace has accomplished in your life. Sadly, like Paul, you had to list your ministry accomplishments and God ordained priorities. Their pet peeves in ministry are not anyone else’s priority accept those called to it. Your humility was and is appreciated. ❤
Romans 14:4, “Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.”
Dr Michael Brown you already doing a lot, please pay these non working critics no mind. Continue to love what you are doing
Do you like Copeland and dollar?
@MixhaelBaez Brother, I do not regard myself as having laid hold of it yet; but one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and reaching forward to what lies ahead, I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus. Copeland and Dollar are not the focus of my walk with the Lord Jesus Christ. Jesus said to him, “If I want him to remain until I come, what is that to you? You follow Me!” Jesus says to every one of us Who are baptised in His Name to "Follow Him". He who has an ear [anyone who is a child of the living God], let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’ ”
@@leslieasaiah-asher that’s not an answer
@@MixhaelBaez Have you looked at the landfill you have in your brain before looking at a spec of dust a brother might have in their eyes?
Anytime you disagree with Justin Peters and JMAC, you are going to get whacked on. Beware of the leaven of the Scribes and Pharisees.
“The God Picture” is an entire systematic theology for regular people.
You 're right ,there IS a proverb says:"dogs bark when the caravan moving on". Justin Peters has the time to watch the videos of Benny hinn ,Joyce Mayer and others for finding something to critisize....that reminds me about the story of a blind man in John 9:13-34.
The Pharisees were working outside the scriptures! Not teaching people to hold to the scriptures.
Well said, we all think we know it all because we can research. Sure, make educates choices but we are burdened with knowledge and still need experts, actual experts who have proven their abilities and value like Dr. Brown.
Something is happening where we are falling into extremes and losing our ability to see the fruit of the ministry. He has the fruit people and the academic work to prove it. Amen and thank you, sir.
A lot of times it’s ok to not answer the critics. A lot of great men of God like Kenneth Hagin took this approach.
This is such a slam dunk, dude XD
I’m not aware of all of the criticisms, but you chose to come on a show to talk about this very issue. I don’t think anybody’s asking for you or anyone to make “calling out charasmatics” to be part of their ministry. That being said, Someone like Benny Hinn is one of the most egregious. I was concerned over a year ago, when I continued to see Bethel and others give him a platform…The charismatic church loses credibility when they don’t police their own…Almost Zero discipline..This comes off as “gaslighting”.
Appreciate your contribution to the Body Dr. Brown!
When I wanted to study cessationsim and continuationism I read both "Strange fire" and "Authentic fire" and I was really blessed by that.
God bless 🤠
Dr Brown did just like Paul, if any man have confidence in the flesh, I more. Go ahead off on everyone Dr Brown. Keep up the good work brother. The Lord bless you richly.
That's a lot of books you've written. No-one could accuse you of being lazy. You have remained true to your calling and have not been sidetracked into areas to which the Lord has not called you. Good on you bro. Keep up the good work.
Dr. Brown as much as I love Dr. James White's materials, I firmly believe that God has equipped you so much in expansion of his kingdom. Thank you for your ministry God bless!
I read moody handbook of messianic prophecies a few weeks ago and what you did for that book was no small contribution. I’m sure you could have put more books on that table.
Dr. Brown is your commentary on the book of Jeremiah available for purchase? I really appreciate your ministry! Thanks.
Stop being so lazy Dr Brown 😂!
Wow, to see all of the works Dr Brown has done in the name of the Lord makes me feel like less of a Christian.
A lot of your critics are pastors who agree with Apostle Paul that the Church must call out those who contradict sound doctrine.
Michael Brown also agrees that 'the church' needs to call out those who contradict sound doctrine..... his point is that it is not his calling.... judging by the stack of books in front of him.... he has been very busy!!!
We are all called to discern truth from error. Listening to 5 minutes of Benny Hinn or Copeland etc should be ample time to discern correctly.
What you might be missing is Dr. Brown's definition of false teachers from the Bible. The same standard you use would also mean that Luther was a false teacher. He clearly departed from sound doctrine in way worse ways than Hinn does. Why aren't Justin Peters and others willing to label Luther a false teacher? To be clear, I find Hinn detestable and to be a false teacher, but I'm not demanding that Dr. Brown use my exact words towards Hinn like others are.
The irony is that Hinn, Copeland and their ilk are doing precisely what the Roman Church did in Luther's day - telling people if they pay them money then God will bless them and their families.
Luther was utterly sound on the essence of the gospel - charlatans like Hinn and Copeland are not - I utterly condemn Luther's comments against the Jewish people, but still believe he was a genuine Christian and one used to advance the cause of God and Truth more than virtually anyone else in church history. Additionally, he showed immense courage and knew that his stand for the gospel was highly likely to result in his being burnt alive, but he stood firm for the gospel despite that very real threat - the only thing that Hinn and Copeland are concerned about is fleecing vulnerable people put of their money.
I used to have a lot of respect for Dr Brown and have found many of his books to have great value, but this is a terrible cause to fight for in the way that he is.
@Sansho1954 What cause is Dr. Brown fighting for that you disaprove of? He hasn't defended Hinn. He called Hinn out publicly, along with others over the years.
Concerning Luther
Do you really believe that telling people to burn down homes and kill people is not as bad as asking for money? He actually said that God told him to kill people. You're applying an unequal standard. If you demand that people come out extremely harsh towards Hinn, then the same should apply to Luther.
Hehe, this was tooo funny! 😁 😂 very true, and God bless 🙌 🙏 😊
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Dr Mike's own version of 2 Corinthians 11
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Many of these evangelical critics want blood. They demand charismatic leaders condemn to hell those charismatics whom these evangelical leaders have targeted. When charismatics refuse, these particular evangelicals become piously indignant. Part of the shaking we are in has to do with God exposing judgmental attitudes in us which are akin to Moses shouting "must WE bring forth water for these rebels?!" and striking the rock. The door for these leaders to repent of this sort of thing is closing. It's one thing to address doctrinal errors or certain behaviors while not passing final eternal judgment on those teaching it. Questioning the why and the how of doctrine and behavoir, yes absolutely but unless the person is in blatant sin, we can't declare them to be "false brethren". If they are in sin, it should be handled the way Todd Bentley's situation was eventually dealt with. So those who won't heed the still small voice of the Holy Spirit in these matters are going to find their spiritual lives drying up. God requires we be faithful in that which is least. If we are so callous as to pass these kinds of unrighteous eternal judgments that are a false weight against people, God WILL NOT trust us with His power and His anointing.
Johns books are primarily summaries of his sermons. Very small percentage of his books are from scratch.
I was rolling! This was such a great response and video. Well done. 2 Corinthians 11:16 onward. You nailed it.
Claiming expertise based on the number of books written, undermines the value of the written word. Many books argue that the Earth is flat, deny the moon landing, or suggest 9/11 was an inside job. Despite the amount of books these ideas remain false. Similarly, writing thousands of books on any topic, like Jesus being the Jewish messiah, doesn't inherently make the claims true.
I see the argument of "look how many books I have written" being a very unintelligent one. I don't remember watching a rabbi bragging about the amount of books he has written.
Secondly, you may have expertise on one thing but not on another. Let's say that you are a good scientist, that doesn't make you a good theologian or vice versa.
You may have written good books about human rights or LGBT, but as far as I can tell all your books written about Jesus and or Judaism, have no merit. It doesn't prove anything. It's just a word salad, pressed together in books.
The only time I could see someone bragging about books, is the amount of endorsements he received. Let's say you claim that 10 ultra Orthodox Jewish Rabbis have been convinced by your books, that would be something. Brother, you haven't.
Books are meaningless.
Unless it's a book that teaches you for exemple how to fly an Airplane. And you see people actually taking off based on a book.
THIS BROUGHT ME GREAT JOY AND ALSO IT IS REALLY SAD ! I HAD GREAT JOY BECAUSE YOU SAID WHAT NEEDED TO BE SAID. IT'S REALLY SAD THAT WE HAVE CALLED OURSELVES CHRISTIANS AND HAVE NOT LEARNED FROM THE CHRIST. THE ASKING OF CHRIST STILL REMAINS . I AM LOWLY AND HUMBLE ,TAKE MY YOKE AND LEARN FROM ME. SO MANY FALSE BROTHERS AND SISTERS . THAT'S WHAT THIS IS REALLY ABOUT . TIME TO GET REAL WITH THE LORD ,STOP RUNNING A GAME UP IN HERE. GOD'S NOT FOOLIN ,YOU THINK MR BROWN GETTING A LITTLE HOT (HE'S NOT) HE'S COOL AS A CUCUMBER . YET I KNOW ONE WHO GOT FIRE IN HIS EYES ,SO YOU BEST BE WATCHING THOSE LIES GUYS.
" ... for I know Whom I have believed, and am persuaded that He Is able to keep that which I have committed unto Him against that day." 11Timothy 1:12b
Dr Brown you make a good point at tge same times the wolves are ravaging the sick and poor making commerce of them and you should take the warnings from people who study the topic seriously. I love you but you give those wolves cover. You’re brilliant and I love you as an elder of the faith. I pray one day you take some time to really study those wolves you already know a lot in all those things you wrote about. If you wanna see revival Dr Brown. Take the time just a little time it won’t take long and call out those blatant blasphemers in your camp and I bet you would see revival as charasmatics come out of the teaching of those wolves. Then maybe true repentance leading to revival would come and true fire from heaven would light the altar
I love Dr. Brown and I agree with 99% of what he teaches, but this feels like a 20 minute 'argument from authority' fallacy
I felt the same way but towards the end I started to understand it was a time thing and not necessarily an authority thing.
Don’t trust your feelings (nor other’s feelings). He was humble and very clear to why he showed the books. He wasn’t making an argument but asking the critics to use equal measures. For example, there is a reason why Peters doesn’t confront Islam- he is being faithful to his specific calling. Brown is being faithful to his and others need to stop expecting him to do what they think he should do. Don’t judge another man’s servant- that’s Bible, you can trust that 😉
Romans 14:4, “Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.”
Nothing you say will make a difference to them. You should just ignore the little minded gnats like Justin Peters and Seiko Woods and they will all eventually fade away. Your calling is not to find fault in others and publicly shame the. Stay in your own lanes. Stop lowering yourself to their level. You are better than this. Stop feeding the trolls. Please. Amen.
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I am a big fan of Dr Brown, but Justin Peters (who I don't always agree with) does make a good point that you should be able to admit that Benny Hinn is unqualified for ministry. If you have time to write all these books (that are good) you should have time to make a statement that Benny Hinn is a wolf and unqualified for ministry.
Well, then Justin Peters should write a commentary as well.... If JP has so much time to be watching RUclips videos and criticising charismatics.... then he should surely have the time to write a commentary.
Agreed. All I could think, as a pastor who has appreciated the books I have read by him, is that while watching this long drawn out piling up of credentials and accomplishments is how it doesn’t take almost any knowledge and discernment to identify wolves like Benny Hinn. It doesn’t take studying all of his sermons or listening to his financial appeals and twisting of Scripture. It takes maybe 5 minutes of research. No more than an hour at most. And it doesn’t require a special calling to answer this. I knew the answer as a new believer just by reading the New Testament. I didn’t need to publish a book to spot an obvious false prophet or warn people about one. Some other people are not as obvious though.
If this happened to Obama congress would call for a investigation into spousal abuse of the president.
..so with all that work it is even more important that you are seen to be above board in who you mix with and who you give the right hand of fellowship to... assuming that you are honest yourself...
Dr Brown you done shy away from the issues even if they are delinquent. In this situation can or should Matthew 10:14 be applied? Can one tell these critics move on and basically say, ‘I explain my feeling on your issue as it appears in the Word, go bother someone else?’ Please. Lovely video.
Dr Brown ,u are an Amazing man of God .cessationists have nothing to do except critising and stucking in their own limited thoughts and their poor psychology....
Although I admire the work Justin Peters does, the only thing I will take from him is the criticality of discerning what people teach in the name of God and the things they do, for that I am thankful.
That's all, and no cessationism. To me he seems more wrath and condemnation than paving a way for that person to turn back to God. I don't see any love for the person he is criticizing although he says so. I am not an American, if people were to reach out to the lost and confused in country like mine, the way Justin ministers, you would have more haters of God than actual repentance. You have to be creative like Paul. You can't just come and say sinners prayer in the face while being full of wrath.
I don't buy how cessationists determine for God what God can and can't do. We in our country have seen works of God that will shake you to the core with fear of God. And when I hear cessationists talk about how God has stopped working nowadays, I see their arguments as empty as an abandoned house. If hyper charisma becomes major will cause problems. If cessationism becomes major that also is a problem because then christianity will be just another religion that is as dull and empty as the rest.
thank you, I agree fully.
I have to doubt that you watched or else paid little attention to Justin's videos. Very often in his videos he makes appeals directly to those in error to repent. I don't have a good measuring stick on "love", so we'll have to leave that as more subjective.
And since you brought up Paul, Paul called out people by name when he was deserted by those who were brothers, or turned on him, or spread sinful talk (which he said would spread like gangrene).
Dr. Brown does work in reaching out to the Jewish community and defends his perspective on the gifts. Great. Justin Peters is an evangelist and travels all over to give presentations for the gospel. You are within your rights to criticize Justin on cessationism if you like. It is also fair to criticize Dr. Brown for providing cover for those who abuse people in the name of God, like Sid Roth, Benny Hinn, and Ken Copeland.
@@sneaksyranger You have understood me wrong. I am not against what Justin is doing, I said "I admire his work" didn't I?. But I am not fond of the way he approaches. If you come straight with sinners prayer and say things like you will burn in hell and heres the sinners prayer, although that may be true for that person it will 9/10 push that person further away and make them blinder as they'll just avoid you.
Just recently, Justin posted a video on Kanye, I agree everything he said but not how he approached by slamming sinners prayer at the end of video. Making people hear sinners prayer is not how gospel reaches people. Never. Look at that video, and say honestly if Kanye were to watch it would he turn back and reflect? NO, You would just push him away.
Im not against calling out people, people in error should be corrected.
I see your real problem, Doc...you simply sleep too much. If you would stop doing that, you would have plenty of time to attack Charismatics...😊
Lol your sarcasm burns /
Mic drop moment
If all the servants would gather to be united by the Spirit of Elohim as the genuine body of Messiah, their service would be much more effective. Rather, they work as independent ministries which too often end up distracting and dividing believers instead of gathering the body to be united by the Spirit of Elohim in Yeshua's Name.
The Scriptures Old and New clearly state that Elohim expects His servants to unite and work cohesively as one. Yeshua prayed for us to be one as He and His Father are One. That is Biblical unity, not the shameful mess we see today.
Elohim expects His congregation to have and maintain this level of unity just as His Son Yeshua earnestly prayed for it. That being the case the cohesive, schism-free unity is possible for those who choose to believe and obey Elohim to focus getting whosever wills to gather together for the purpose purged of self and sin to be united as the spotless body and bride of Messiah. Then the Everlasting Arms of Elohim will show forth His Beneficence and Power through us. Then the world will know that Elohim has indeed sent His Uniquely Born Son Yeshua the Elect One in the world.
Talk dat SH... Dr Brown lol haha
Clever way to silence the arrogant.
😂Excellent
The issue is that when some one has done the research to show that Kenneth Copland is a false teacher, you say that you have not done the research... which means that you should either defer to research done by others, or you should actually do the research to show how they are wrong.
You are wanting to both defend Sid Roth based on your relationship alone. We know that relationship alone is not enough, you have just told us this fact when you pointed to Judas. Therefore if you want to defend Sid Roth, actually watch his videos.
If you want to defend Kenneth Copland watch his videos.
Do the research before you defend these people.
If you do not have time because of the calling that God has put on your life, then ok. If however you want to defend them, then you need to do the work of researching them.
I have listened to a bit of Kenneth teaching on youtube, seems fine to me, anything you can point out to me specifically since you are calling him a false teacher? All I remember him talking about is healing, do not fear or worry its as sin, stand on Gods word, check everything he says with scripture, don't trust him trust scripture. Do not accept anything contrary to Gods word. Since you are accusing him publicly I would like some evidence. From what I heard Michael brown never brings up these subjects of defending these people and he says as far as I know they are a brother or I don't know. Maybe he is preoccupied with doing what God called him to do not find every bad thing people do.
Dr. Brown did agree that they would be false teachers if what Justin said is true. He said that numerous times. You claimed that Dr. Brown is defending them. Do you have some examples of Dr. Brown defending them?
If these goofball weren't literally asking for it, this would be a bit petty lol. But the asked for it, so 🤷♂️
All Babel
I know this most likely won’t be read, and that’s okay, just remember, and bring to mind, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, who was, is, and forever will be God, our Savior, 100 % God 100% man, was questioned by Satan at 3 different times directly just in one example to his face.
He questioned his credentials, his deity, his Title, his Godliness in all forms and fashions, and yet what does Jesus do, that is different than any man’s typical reply????
Nothing…… but scripture! He doesn’t give him his Title, His status, anything because that all stems from the root of prideful, arrogance, boastfulness, and an evil place in general.
So if Jesus being perfect, doesn’t have to respond back when being questioned ,which, if anyone has the right too it is him, yet, he didn’t, what are we doing?????
If Jesus didn’t have to defend him self, like a lamb lead to the slaughter, didn’t have to make a defense for himself, because he knows who he is, he has trust in his Father and his established place, we don’t. We do it out of anger, pride, arrogance, yet our savior if we truly cared about walking in his foot steps should realize we should pray for those who speak badly against us not coming out of a defense when we know it is the evilness of this earth who that really is at the end of the day, just like Jesus did and didn’t make a defense or felt like he had to give one!
- Matthew 4
- Isaiah 53
"hit piece" ... a little sour grapes maybe?
I am a big fan of Michael Brown. I really appreciate him as a leader in the body of Christ, but yes, this does seem a bit of a put down. Might have been better not to have made it.
@@matt76716 It doesn't help that it is a reupload at that. I saw it come out a few days ago as well.
Dear Dr. Brown, it is sad to see you disregard the prophets and prophecies that God gave his servants to guide and give clarity to the church in this long season of change for America and the entire world. Why would you say they should not be listened to? The word clearly says in 2 Chronicles 20:20 - Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper. Just because things didn't turn out as was expected does not mean they lied or did not hear God. In the Bible, God gave a prophecy that the children of Israel would only be in Egypt for 400 years; they ended up being there for 430. It doesn't mean God lied or that his will didn't come to pass. God's word is true and doesn't work alone; He works with the church, and even if circumstances don't seem to line up, God's word remains true.
By the way, why are you concerned about how the church 'looks' to unbelievers? They are in darkness and they are under the influence of their father the devil. Our job is to be the salt and light to them so that they can be delivered into the kingdom of light; we are not called to cater to their disdain for the church. Why did you go and answer to them and participate in the secular article they wrote, 'apologizing' to them on behalf of the church? Who asked you to do that? Did God tell you to do that? What made you feel the need to help Him 'clean up' His image. You reached out to many leaders in the body of Christ and made them 'repent' and apologize because Trump was denied his rightful seat when the elections were stolen.
When did you take the time to go into God's presence and ask Him and He told you the prophets were all wrong? It is not your place to 'call out' prophets and judge them. You have a lot of following and you are influencing many people to be scared of prophecies and the leadership of the Holy Spirit to His church at large. It is still God's will for Trump to be president again; the church needs to understand this, stand in the place of prayer and stand against corruption. God on the other hand can defend Himself and His image.
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Dr Brown. With all respect, it would be fine if you refused to denounce people as false this or that if you said I don’t consume their content so I couldn’t say tie the way. But you do say either way. You speak positively, you promote, you encourage, you rebuke criticism, you abhor the language used - but then when someone say “but… then your book table comes out”.
Yes our critics are not prolific authors. But you’re playing games here. Yes you have called people out - yes you have made public issues you find. But when someone does their homework, which is what you’re almost mocking here, on those who prove to be outside of orthodox either praxis or belief, then you simply brush it off as either an over reach (but you haven’t read/watched their content) or you couldn’t say either way because you don’t know them personally to make that critique.
Your point here is clear. But you’re missing the primary issue raised by others. Mike winger is a good example - he sees massive issue with Benny Hinn, does an expose and then suddenly you pay attention and have time to process the content.
Your ministry is greatly appreciated, but you really have missed the point of the issues being presented.
That said, thank God for your fine work. I hope it’s the last time you ever put it on display in this manner as I truly believe you went down to the level of Jp and the others often come across as haughty.
I trust God will continue to use you, especially in the evangelisation of Jews. God bless!
I’ve never got a good answer from Continuists. If tongues continues, and by that I mean tongues is to be the normative Christian experience, then why isn’t the Acts 2 version of tongues normative? Why isn’t the normal evangelistic problem of witnessing to someone whose language you cannot speak, the gift of tongues.
The only normative tongues out there is gibberish, yo say I need to believe by faith is an actual language.
There is a way to prove your point. Show Acts 2 kind of tongues is normative among your version of Christianity.
Show me that Acts 2 tongues are the same tongues referred to by Paul.
@@kellydarrius They are not. I believe Paul was rebuking the Corinthian church for the misuse of tongues.
But let’s assume I’m wrong.
Acts 2 tongues is a type of tongues that is interpretive. It allows a person to communicate with someone who he could not communicate because of a language barrier.
Therefore, there would need to be two kinds of tongues in the Bible. Both would need to be the normal Christian experience. One for prayer, one for evangelism. Where is interpretive, Acts 2 tongues the normal evangelistic experience among Pentecostals?
@mikeyant2445 Wherever is Acts 2 tongues biblically set forth as a normal (e.g. common) experience? We see it demonstrated nowhere else other than Acts 2.
Besides that, Acts 2 tongues happened spontaneously under an intense move of God, likely without the awareness of the speakers knowing they were communicating universally.
Until we see a move of God not unlike Acts 2. I wouldn't expect to hear any such tongues. I've heard of it happening from one reliable witness I know (who is quite critical of charismtaic excesses), but I don't understand where you get the idea of this being a normal Christian experience.
@@kellydarrius You’ll understand why that sounds like special pleading to Cessationists. Acts 2 is where Tongues is defined. Even in I Cor Paul defers to this interpretation; he says both that he spoke in tongues more than all of them, and that his tongues involved the spirit and understanding. How does one man speak in tongues more than you all, or unless theirs is not real tongues.
At any rate…it is not for no reason we don’t believe in modern tongues.
@@mikeyant2445 His tongues did not involve understanding.
1 Corinthians 14:14
For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful.
To assume otherwise is to fundamentally misunderstand 1 Corinthians 14.
Just subscribed to your channel, Dr. Brown. Despite some theological disagreements, I have high respect for your and your ministry and I’m praying God continues to bless you and your listeners. Your love for Christ and proclaiming the gospel is unmatched, especially compared to those critics. Keep fighting for the truth!
Minute 14:00 yes, that pose right there is called checkmate!
But because Dr. Brown is humble he won't make that flex.
I found the line of fire on the radio when I used drive home from work. That was my 1st introduction to Dr. Brown.
I've listened to his conversion testimony more than once.
I've learned a lot from this man of God.
Thank you Sir!
You are certainly living on purpose, Godly purpose ✨️ 🙏🏾 🙌🏾
I can bet you really didn't want to make this kind of a video but sometimes we have to stand up for ourselves and check some folks.
WOW LOL. That´s what Jesus does to a person.
I love you, dr Michael!! God Bless you!
Thank you, Dr. Brown, for always being solid with scripture backing guidance. Thankful for you.
Beautiful work. Glory to God.❤
Cessationism teaches you to be ashamed of The Gifts of The Lord that He has Ordained.
That’s a strawman cessationist calls out nonsense that brings shame to the Gospel found in the charismatic movement with the nonsense people call the gifts of TGE spirit
Do you like Copeland and Dollar
@@MixhaelBaezbrother perhaps some cessationists. But a decent amount I’ve seen seem to disrespect charismatics and call us deluded for believing what the word of God explicitly teaches. As far as I agree that we as charismatics have been too charitable to charlatans who abuse gifting.
@@joshuapizarro3231 I was a Charasmatic for years. I can speak in youngest, have “prophecied” and seen “visions” my church used to call me a “seer”. My old pastor still thinks I’m a prophet. The reality is that there is a lot of craziness in the movement.
@@MixhaelBaezI do and that in no way strengthens the cessationist position because I believe about spiritual gifts what I believe based on God’s word.
Well said addressing this Dr Brown!!! Someone needs to address how the reality is they are just Slandering in a religious spirit those they disagree with on the things of the Spirit. To justify themselves they say these men are hell bound just because they hate their ministry practices and theology. Do I agree or you agree with it all no absolutely not, But that doesn’t make someone Biblically a false teacher! Loved Daniel Kolenda videos on calling our cessationism of the heresy it is as a doctrine itself. Not to say those men are not saved. But I believe their sinful slander and gossip and false witness of leaders they don’t agree with needs to be actually adressed for what it is! Justin Peters actually and the other guy because of this they actually truly need to be called to repentance and correction. The way they are going about their slandering trying to justify with what they have conviced themselves out of their own deception is actually sin. Great video Dr brown! I love you and you have always been a blessing to me! I remember when you came and I talked to you to our church in Fredericksburg Virginia. ❤
I’d like to see a video response from your critics on this video.
Oh, I forgot it’s not their calling, and it’s not their gifting and they don’t have the time to do so. I see, I see..
Well….they did an excellent response video on this bragging video.
THANK YOU! Please Pray that I would be as prolific, and work as diligently. When you get your 10+ cities to rule over, I am coming to visit...
Dr. Brown, please ignore these people. Everyone wants to hear opinions instead of the Word of God.
It’s unfortunate that people are known more for what they are against than for their faith. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God (Romans 10:17).
All this Paul vs. Apollos crap needs to stop. I pray our brothers and sisters across various denominations desire the Word more than Social Media Wars between people of faith.
Philippians 1:15-18
King James Version
15 Some indeed preach Christ even of envy and strife; and some also of good will:
16 The one preach Christ of contention, not sincerely, supposing to add affliction to my bonds:
17 But the other of love, knowing that I am set for the defence of the gospel.
18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached; and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Dr Brown,
I completely understand your frustration ! I would recommend that during your intro that you state that you are an independent preacher/ teacher/ evangelist, that you are not affiliated with any other pastors and do not endorse them unless specifically stated. It’s a shame that we have men that claim to be promoting Christ.. but are doing the opposite.
The reason they are so aggressive with their criticism is because they are members of a dying denomination / group.
I grew up in a dead church, we read about miracles but never discussed them. At the age of 18 as a high school failure, a useless pot head I walked into an Assembly Of God Church, the pastor preached boldly in the spirit. He spoke of Sin, miracles and redemption.
The third Sunday I attended when they gave the alter call, I knew that if I didn’t answer the call, I would probably never walk into church again. I accepted Christ that day, with no thought about quitting marijuana, I quit that day because the desire was gone, I finished high school and went on to get a degree in Engineering.
( sad note of interest, Justin Peters even criticized the students praying at the alter during Asbury revival)
Cessation churches have little to offer a broken person that desperately needs Christ.
Eish! Let me write a few books then I'll come back to you 🫣 Wow! Amazing work🙏🏽