Vatican Fashion Show - Federico Fellini (Roma)
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
- Federico Fellini demonstrates his ecclesiastic fashion designs. Some of the scenes were censored by the Vatican, which I've found and reinserted into Federico Fellini's clip "defilé di moda ecclesiastica" from the film "Roma" (1972).
Please vote for your favorite model in the comment section, below.
E' una delle piu' belle scene mai girate per il cinema, la vera essenza del c.d. stile felliniano, come tutto il film, del resto: la rappresentazione della chiesa come parata e del papa come un faraone.
Fellini was himself a Catholic, yet a freethinker and the greatest of all movie directors.
Fellini underwent a Catholic education and his works are certainly aimed at demolishing the Catholic institution, because he understood that the church is far from the legacy of Jesus
What I like about this scene - and with Fellini in general - is how it's a perfect depiction of a dream. It starts with some "logic", although a bit absurd (the fashion show for the Vatican), and then some elements start to slowly change, kinda like in a dream things start to drift away into something else in a visual stream of consciousness; the announcer vanishes, the clothes get more bizarre until it's this elaborate depiction of hell with no one inside, and then the pope appears like a Messiah, and the scene starts to fade out slowly but still cuts to a wider shot and a close shot while fading.
You're definitely right on the use of the stream of consciousness by Fellini in general ("Juliet of the spirits" is a fine example), but I prefer to see this particular scene as an absurd-ish and carnivalesque version of a burlesque show. It certainly has this dreamy element, but I wouldn't go as far as to trace specifically the "stream of consciousness" technique. However, it may employ the modernist "mythical method" to some extent (past and present synchronize, the dead walk among us, possible intertextual references).
Be it as it may (it's not mandatory that we agree), your comment is very interesting :)
I did not even notice the announcer vanishing :D
Well put. I think this is why it's one of my favorite sequences in any film. It transports you as it progresses until you are in a realm you were not anticipating being in when you had started. This sort of phenomenon shows up in other films that I love. The Club Silencio sequence in Mulholland Drive gives me the same sensation. It's interesting that both sequences take place in a theater setting.
True it does seem ludicrous towards the end.Pope,Christ beneath the flesh? No wonder the Vatican is the most priest ridden place.
Fellini Dominique with out the French version in this video all is lost.
Absolutely hilarious. The ridiculous pomp and symbolism. The aggrandizement and extravagant adornment. Fellini nailed it.
This is religious intolerence
@@HB-ej6iq and as Christians we are instructed to tolerate none of these false religions, nor their vain traditions of men.
Yep Sacred and Profane a favored personal pairing...
@@hahna77 yes this being both your Calvanist stance that was made by Martian Luther and the tradition that the still have but also by the criticism leveled as such grapple with...the Layaty...the Faithful ..the priest and the further extension of the Priesthood right up to the Pope even today still grapple...that is why the current Pope Francis would not wear the traditional red shoes...but maintains the pragmatic brown that represent the branch of the order he comes from...and who cast criticism that Martin did much later to the Pope in person...you know. St Francis... The guy who basically pinned the order that let them to poverty obedience Chastity you know the three things that a priest must do at this point.. and he made those before you complained about it and he didn't have to call them satanic to do it so get off your f****** high horse you calvinist and stop calling them satanic it's stupid you are more than them that you will even admit or your church leader will admit if you query him on this.. and I'm an apostate and a witch and I know what I'm talking about so shut off and I really really detest that I'm having to defend this issue to you on their behalf because I spit in the one God's eye decades ago to become an apostate and I don't appreciate having to put you in school because your little petty beef that you brought to this level of demonic so they're not Christians yeah you know why you can't get it together you Christians it's because you can't agree with each other on what constitutes Christ's directive on how to follow him and maybe you should take that to your priest or your pastor or whoever you think you follow another problem that you don't want to admit because that's the problem with the church too and you can ask him to f*** you with it how about that..
Cardinals on roller skates
Nino Rota's music is just perfect
"Little Sisters of the Purgatory's Temptation"!
as always
It's inspired
Che genio Fellini! Un vero capolavoro questo episodio.
This whole movie is structured like it's a dream. I have never seen a movie that captured the weird, stream of consciouns-like setting of a dream as well as Fellini had.
more exciting than any Victoria's Secret show... Vatican is King is Secrets...
+deFetus Attitude ,votre icone,est porteuse de signifiant,félicitation.
Federico Fellini transgresor , onírico psicoanalitico , un genio para su época de colección excelente maestro gracias por el talento
Gorgeous atmosphere of dream and reverie in the movie! Only Fellini can create such a thing!
One of the most unsetting scenes ever
Amazing that this is now the cri du coeur at the Metropolitan Museum in New York in 2018! Bravo Fellini!
The "Winged nuns" for me.
Fellini was a true genius
Davvero un capolavoro.
Too bad that the audio is so poor-- Fellini was a genius, and his contribution to western culture that was dramatically evolving into modernity was powerfully significant in understanding an emerging zeigeist
I don't think Fellini's intent was to make fun of ancient Catholic ceremonials or criticize pump and so on...on the contrary, I bet he, as an esthete, was fascinated by these aspects, and created his dreamlike - or nightmarish, if you prefer - version of them.
We studied this film at University in Year 3 at UL as part of 'How to Read a Film'. Still trying to understand it years on.
You have to be Catholic to understand the high-camp ridicule of this scene.
Wow, I'm wondering what theories you heard about this movie at university?
Genius!
PHENOMENAL!
Thank you
One of the most memorable scenes in Roma was when the subway workers discovered underground paintings, then lose them!
La scena può essere accostata per analogia al "Principio di indeterminazione": un avvicinamento è una influenza deformante. Capolavoro.
Обожаю Феллини и итальянский юмор👏
Thank you. That brings the new pope into a proper perspective.
Marvelous!
This was the Vatican II we needed.
Bollshit
Le pire c'est que ce n'est pas si loin de la réalité!
a seriously fantastic and artistic rendition of the opulence and lunacy of the roman catholic church
Spettacolare
spezzone meraviglioso grazie! \wonderful frame thanks!
Il nuovo "Impero Romano", l'impero della Chiesa
Smoke a couple bowls and watch this. Takes it to next level and beyond. Trust me.
Whoa. This is bonkers. In an awesome way
fantastisch!!
Enough to give you nightmares!
Magic!
The scene would have given me nightmares as a child
Either brilliant or totally messed up. I want to see the movie now.
me, watching this out of pure curiosity and has no idea who Frederico Fellini was: this was pretty damn bizarre and unsettling... i love it
This scene, the combination between music, the images, costume, is fucking ipnotic.
Duuude!, . . ..this is some SPOOKY SHIT MAAAAN!!!
Had never seen the censored scene. Do you have the deleted scenes from Fellini Satyricon?
GENIAL. BRILHANTE. ÚNICO. SURPREENDENTE.
The music seems to creates a very creepy atmosphere.
Hole film is about a historically common conflict between generations, time and eventfullness that are divided us. Critique to the typical father-to-son notations about the morality and the cultural decay. Resulted in this visualisation of the getting more and more grotesque pseudo sanctity (last line of defence of dying generation or even world, against the changes and the upcoming future), gradually becoming more and more seen as a complete insanity. And, in the end, showing symbolic of death as pure opposite to life, which you can see right after this scene on the Rome's streets. To put it simply: this scene is about people who are getting out of touch with the reality. With the life. Choosing, eventually, death instead.
andiamo a casa va........(grazie di cuore).
Genial.
the shinky ones are the coolest minute 5:38 and the one that follows, it's like a pink and awsome ghost
Without the song Dominique in French version the video is second rate second rate now, now.The best version to date is with Dominique in French the song provides the best background to date bar none.
this is what last year's Met tried and failed to be like
The Vatican must have wanted his head for this in the early 70's
Mmmm, no.
Nah. Christianity painted itself into a corner when it stopped using violence and portraiting itself as good and peaceful. Islam, on the other hand, kept the absurd violence on it's dogma and is doing wonders to sell it's lies. Christianity's lies are now difficult to get across because they are limited to a few methods to enforce it. So, no, they couldn't go after this, same as they couldn't go after Life of Brian.
nice one bravo
What's with the sound? I can't hear a thing, even with my speakers turned all the way up.
Roy F. Yeah true, what a pity
Love
FF. The genius... ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks! I'm sorry, I did some research, but couldn't figure out were it belongs. My guess is at the end; after the last models (around 8:08 of my video).
A few if not Many steps down from the Dominique in French version of this I've questioned my catholicism.
the audio level is too low, can't hear the music which is important to the scenes.
A scene censored is missing. It appears in RUclips as Defilee censurato 2. Do you know where this scene corresponds?
😂😂😂Magnifico
The song Dominique is missing, and that sinks the entire video!
Martin Luther must be laughing , spinning , rolling at his grave
People in Hell don't laugh.
@@Arthur_McGowan Quite true. F*** Martin Luther!
USE the RUclips Studio - to reMaster the audio tracks ...
Is there something wrong with the sound or is it just my computer?
Now go check out the disco Dominique version of this video.
... chiaramente di ispirazione per Benigni ed il "modello giuditta"
I get it
cool
Lindo.
Shout out for De Roomse Loper!
Missing the French version of Dominique, singing nuns version!
Missing the song Dominique 🎵 and Missing the crux of the matter.
Pontos de vista... :)
Met Gala 2018
magnifique...😂
happy Friday the 13th 2016
Kościół jest dokładnie w tym miejscu jak na filmie z roku1972 .Oni zajmują się już tylko sobą i swoimi przyjemnościami.Lud Boży jest już im nie potrzebny.
So far ahead of his time! For fun, you might want to look at the abbreviated clip that the musical group Vision Fantom called Eternity 2000. I think even Fellini would approve. The updated music actually goes better with it than the original. ruclips.net/video/EqGidcm0NR4/видео.html
This is why I am catholic. This is why the true catholicism killed itself by the reforms, i.e. when this mindset was lost.
Is that supposed to be Pius XII resurrected at the end?
No. It goes on 6:31.
An artist's expression of something is never a literalistic presentation. Here, Fellini is illustrating with absurdity something he apparently sees as absurd (ecclesiastical review of clerical garb). I'm sure the Church leadership reviews any changes to religious vestments(ie to prevent any wayward cleric from wearing a speedo to celebrate Mass), but come on, think about it: Roller skating priests hand-in-hand... literal fact or literary device?
AmericanBerean I know personally catholic priests who make up before mass, wear fake eyelashes, and spend a fortune on branded clothes and shoes. What seemed like something absurd at the time of fellini, as you rightly point out, is becoming more and more a reality. I think Fellini is somehow an Italian Orwell, for some aspects.
Is that Ratzinger
Fellinni was right but who kia after city of woman
And some people thinks moschino is fashion
The art of human display, visual hierarchy by inessential adornment is a phenomenon thousands of years old, (seen also in the animal kingdom). The film mocks not only the Catholic church but also the absurd behemoth of the multi million £ Western fashion industry that continues to ply its fantastical trade, year in year out, persuading us we might like to impress by wearing an inverted coal scuttle on our heads. This is absurdist cinema taken to extremes
heee heee! :-D "What happens in the Vatican stays in the Vatican!"
Not anymore, thanks to Paolo Gabriele and wikileaks, some of the Vatican's very dirty laundry has been made public. God damn maggots!
Actually is strange they don´t censored the whole think, the catholic church, like las vegas.
When done ethically, I absolutely consider confession to be a sacrament. To the extent this is necessary, all clergy are replaced by bots of myself and Mark D. Jordan
For the endeavor to overcome one's own evil, which we all have, even me, in conversation with a compassionate another and in ritual with which one feels communion with the divine is beyond sacred
All necessary shame (which is different than sin, something else for Lilith and Sophia) is rooted in trauma, that which even and especially Christ shares, and with which he weeps for all of you even now as I act humbly as his speaker
For what is important to understand about incarnation, always divine and never immaculate, is that it is a deep exploration and communion with error
Blasphemy will always be a sacrament for me
For how can we all craft our own truths as divinities otherwise
pés no chão e os olhos no céu, e não o contrário ;- )
Did he copy the roller-skating priests from Monty Python or was it the other way round?
Fellini's Roma was released in 1972, while Monty Python was in 1975
@@Marcello0821 Thank you. I think Monty ended in 1974.
Il voĺume è troppo basso... va inciso più alto!,,
Longe do céu, perto dos pecados terrestres...
por lejos, minuto 6...
I'm a Rabid Apostate and though I still have fond Love of some things that are the Sphere that comprises the Mother Church...hell I've been to the Holy see and dint burst into flame...all the elaboration of ornamentation and decoration did give me a splitting headache but I attest...the Baldaccio Canopy and the sculpture of the Pope's Chair that floats as Altar piece behind it are worth the pain and potential wrath of the OneGod for this Witch ....but as with this...I'd kill for the Fur collard Surplice, I'd go to confession again to see that Bride of Christ Wedding dress as it would be worn by the layaty..ok that's sin confess.so next is...give me a minute it's been so long...absolve yeah that about right...I'd absolve I'd absolve..ooo I'd absolve Mother Teresa herself to see her in the Winged number or even the tropical fabric offering...considering she was in Calcutta the last makes total sense and really would pop with that bright blue double banding...imma just going to genuflect and make the sign of the cross now...Gods damn it old habits die without last rights...and purgatory is a place that always seems to never really change...maybe I'll do a decade or two bout it...eh whatevs..ohh .. penance? I forgot.. .well looks like that couple of decades just got longer...I'd do the whip myself with the cat if nine thing but why mess with my sex life... Didn't the mother Church do that enough when I was still more in its purview? The gall..
ooffff imma bad bad Witch...and it feels soooo...goooooddd...maybe the Catechism did more to me then I thought...eh whatevs, why punish myself...? Ohhh imma sooo bbbaaadddd....ok it's official ...I want clemency...no not really...imma just playing hard to Martyr you know...
9:07 Pius XII ? xd
Almost a twin of him, esp. the eyeglasses. Stunning scene, one of the most brilliant in Italian cinema!
Missing Mussolini, anyone?
@@yecril71pl All of his contemporaries are dead or in unconscious state.
So it is not clear to whom you are asking the question
Yes me 😎😎
all is mode
Nuns with the wing hats. Very hand maids tale
She just had to have a moire ending!?
Contrairement a cquon crois Fellini ne dénonce pas les fastes insensés de l'église;il fait un constat de ce faste qui est indissociable de l'aspect de cette ville.rome s'argumente sur un decorum tjrs puissant et d'une mise en scène dramatique (les rues les églises;basiliques cryptes et autre catacombes sont là et s'imposent dans le paysage et dans les esprit avec puissance le génie de Fellini est de démontrer ce decorum en le mélangeant au concept de fashion week qui était(et l'est tjrs dailleur)le symbole d'une jet set décadente...il utilise un support moderne et futile pour démontrer l'emphase du decorum de cette ville sublime.
HHAHAAA LOL
lol!
THE END PAUL VI
Nahh Is me pope puis but in a bad copy
Not Pius XII? They kinda look alike