Absolutely superb material covered there Craig. I've used an Okito Box for over 40+ years - simply because it plays so well with audiences. However, like a lot of Classics, it's a prop that is so often overlooked by Magicians. It's always surprised me; as Coin Boxes can achieve the same effects as a range of various more expensive gaffed coins. Personally, I prefer the one-hand turnover; or if using two hands, then I think that the Ken Brooke method looks the most natural. Performing this element convincingly is, as you say, key to most routines. Once a turnover move has been achieved successfully then, rest assured, people will not work out what may be perceived as an obvious 'modus operandi'. I can state in absolute honesty, that I have NEVER had anyone state "you're putting the lid on the box when it's upside down". I'm sure you've never had that either. Maybe that is what has put many Magicians off using them? May I just add one point that people may want to consider practicing. When just a single coin is penetrating through the hand during a routine, then I prefer to get the coin into a purse palm. Then by placing the box onto outstretched/straight fingers, it's more natural looking than a closed fist. Moreover, when you get the spectator to push on the box, it immediately releases the coin from the Purse Palm, so the timing of the penetration looks perfect. That little ruse was taught to me by Bobby Bernard, more years ago than I care to remember! I'd recommend anyone to work on this and see if it's something that they feel adds value. Just some older references that may prove useful. The Lewis Ganson Okito 'Teach-in' covers some superb handling and a few easier routines. Slightly more difficult (but not in any way knuckle-busters) are contained within Ed Marlo's booklet 'Coining Magic' (published by Magic Inc.). Marlo covers some very effective routines; particularly using Copper/Silver transpos. I think Magic Inc. still sell the booklet - it's not much money for such a valuable source (it also covers some superb paper/coin fold ideas and routines). Would I like you to produce another broadcast on Coin Boxes? I think you'd have guessed the answer to that one! Well done mate on your ability to deliver such a raft of routines superbly; your passion for the subject is not just very enertertaining but hopefully, extremely encouraging for those willing to 'give it a go'. Best regards, Barry Allen.
There was a point in time when people buying the coin box set would receive the printed instructions and routines that made up roughly 1/3 of David's "Expert Coin Magic" book along with the 3 boxes and 1 lid. Now you get the link to the video instructions. Having grown up prior to the age of video recorders and players, I have found that I prefer printed instructions and tutorials. I love videos for watching performances, but the written word is generally my choice for learning new skills. Additionally, this is a great video about coin boxes. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into its production. I will refer to it often.
This is a great resource for coin box magic. And all the routines are so well performed. Thanks for taking the time to do this Craig it must have taken forever. 🙏
Thanks ! I've been looking for some *encyclopedia* or manual for Okito boxes for a while without any luck, until today. I will definitely ask you to go deeper in another video. Really enjoyed.
Bravo Craig - you are gloriously informative (without spilling too many beans) and also entertaining. I now have lots of new ideas to play around with using my wonderful (and apparently, rather rare) set of four Stainless Steel half-dollar Chazpro "Buddha" boxes (Okito, Boston, Slot and a "Chopped" Okito) ...
Brilliant video. I hate how you had to start every video saying the same thing about exposure, l wish people would leave you alone. Lots of great routines and knowledge about the coin box, thanks Craig 👏
You missed out Dave Neighbours when you spoke about other coin magicians. He was said to arguably have created many different techniques and was better than Roth, or at least as good.
Great video. Very inspiring. Thank you Craig!!
Absolutely superb material covered there Craig. I've used an Okito Box for over 40+ years - simply because it plays so well with audiences. However, like a lot of Classics, it's a prop that is so often overlooked by Magicians. It's always surprised me; as Coin Boxes can achieve the same effects as a range of various more expensive gaffed coins. Personally, I prefer the one-hand turnover; or if using two hands, then I think that the Ken Brooke method looks the most natural. Performing this element convincingly is, as you say, key to most routines. Once a turnover move has been achieved successfully then, rest assured, people will not work out what may be perceived as an obvious 'modus operandi'. I can state in absolute honesty, that I have NEVER had anyone state "you're putting the lid on the box when it's upside down". I'm sure you've never had that either. Maybe that is what has put many Magicians off using them? May I just add one point that people may want to consider practicing. When just a single coin is penetrating through the hand during a routine, then I prefer to get the coin into a purse palm. Then by placing the box onto outstretched/straight fingers, it's more natural looking than a closed fist. Moreover, when you get the spectator to push on the box, it immediately releases the coin from the Purse Palm, so the timing of the penetration looks perfect. That little ruse was taught to me by Bobby Bernard, more years ago than I care to remember! I'd recommend anyone to work on this and see if it's something that they feel adds value. Just some older references that may prove useful. The Lewis Ganson Okito 'Teach-in' covers some superb handling and a few easier routines. Slightly more difficult (but not in any way knuckle-busters) are contained within Ed Marlo's booklet 'Coining Magic' (published by Magic Inc.). Marlo covers some very effective routines; particularly using Copper/Silver transpos. I think Magic Inc. still sell the booklet - it's not much money for such a valuable source (it also covers some superb paper/coin fold ideas and routines). Would I like you to produce another broadcast on Coin Boxes? I think you'd have guessed the answer to that one! Well done mate on your ability to deliver such a raft of routines superbly; your passion for the subject is not just very enertertaining but hopefully, extremely encouraging for those willing to 'give it a go'. Best regards, Barry Allen.
Wow! Barry thanks for such an in-depth reply and helping with some really exceptional crediting.
Thank you so much.
There was a point in time when people buying the coin box set would receive the printed instructions and routines that made up roughly 1/3 of David's "Expert Coin Magic" book along with the 3 boxes and 1 lid. Now you get the link to the video instructions. Having grown up prior to the age of video recorders and players, I have found that I prefer printed instructions and tutorials. I love videos for watching performances, but the written word is generally my choice for learning new skills.
Additionally, this is a great video about coin boxes. Thank you so much for all the time and effort you put into its production. I will refer to it often.
This is a great resource for coin box magic. And all the routines are so well performed. Thanks for taking the time to do this Craig it must have taken forever. 🙏
Thanks Tiffany. I know you do coin box magic so that means a lot.
Well done Craig. I got my first Okito box 50 years ago and the only instructions was in BOBO. Maybe I should go look for it again!
The thing about coin box magic is it is so fun to perform.
I know what I’m going to start working on! Thank you!!!
You are more than welcome.
Nice one again !
Am on board for the next box vid.
Cheers
Working on it and doing the research right now.
Excellent! Looks like I'm going to get out my coin box
And practice. Love the purse routines.
Thanks ! I've been looking for some *encyclopedia* or manual for Okito boxes for a while without any luck, until today. I will definitely ask you to go deeper in another video. Really enjoyed.
I’m working on the next video at the moment. Thanks very much.
Bravo Craig - you are gloriously informative (without spilling too many beans) and also entertaining. I now have lots of new ideas to play around with using my wonderful (and apparently, rather rare) set of four Stainless Steel half-dollar Chazpro "Buddha" boxes (Okito, Boston, Slot and a "Chopped" Okito) ...
What a fantastic video! Well done.
Thanks Eric. Took a long time to put it together.
Fantastic routines & sleight of hand Craig..! 🎩🙏
Thanks very much David.
Thanks for the video, Craig! Would love to see more coin box videos from you.
I’ve been waiting for this Craig, thank you very much I can see you’ve put a lot of work into this. 🙏👍
Thanks. I’m really glad you like it.
Brilliant! I suggested a coin box video in the comments of your flipper coin video and hope I helped you decide to do this.
I remember. You defiantly pushed me in the right direction.
Thanks very much.
Amazing!
Did you do performance of PO BOX?
great video with great variety. would love to see a part 2 and see your rendition Doug brewers stand up box routines.
That matrix routine with the okito box was brill.
Where can I learn it?
Vanishing INC mate.
amazing
Brilliant video. I hate how you had to start every video saying the same thing about exposure, l wish people would leave you alone. Lots of great routines and knowledge about the coin box, thanks Craig 👏
It’s frustrating Me Harmon but after the flipper video I felt I had to. Glad you liked the video though.
Craig, where do you get your custom
Close up pads?
Propdog I guess
Prop Dog. They can do anything and everything.
Omg I’m old I’d be dead by the time I learned all this🤣
Lol! Pick one and start with that. My favourite is Out In Out.
cool your daughter helping also kodak magical everyone
Is there a box that you can recommend for use with £2 coins please?
The Tango half dollar box would work great and is inexpensive.
Thanks Craig, great video by the way 😃
Thanks very much.
Eventually, All of Craig's children will grow up to be professional magicians.
You missed out Dave Neighbours when you spoke about other coin magicians. He was said to arguably have created many different techniques and was better than Roth, or at least as good.
Could someone name all the kinds of boxes that are reviewed? okito box, boston box and, and ?
Shame on you! Using your kids as marks. Cheating her out of 10 quid. 🤣
That matrix routine with the okito box was brill.
Where can I learn it?
Thanks Flash. It’s available as a download on Vanishing Inc. Just search Okito Reversemly