A Bannockburn Story You Don't Hear... Sir Marmeduke de Thweng

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  • Опубликовано: 17 мар 2023
  • One of a series of stories from Scottish history and The Battle of Bannockburn, between the Scots and English, that are often ignored or forgotten. Scottish history tour guide, Bruce Fummey, takes you to another Bannockburn to tell you the story of Sir Marmeduke de Thweng
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Комментарии • 189

  • @ScotlandHistoryTours
    @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад +6

    Another Bannockburn Story ruclips.net/video/P219XUxm40g/видео.html
    Upcoming Live shows www.brucefummey.co.uk/shows.aspx
    Buy me coffee at www.buymeacoffee.com/ScottishBruce

  • @JimiBurleigh
    @JimiBurleigh Год назад +29

    Another great story, well told. We appreciate these bits of Scottish history tying to places outside of Scotland. I was raised in Ayrshire Scotland, but I lived in Kenmore, Washington state most of my adult life. We moved to the Skagit Valley when I retired, which is where we live now.

  • @heatherbaird2041
    @heatherbaird2041 Год назад +4

    I'm so happy you came to New Zealand. I've lived in Dunedin, and roamed all around that area. Great to have you here.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад

      ...and you didn't come to my show last week?

    • @markmanc-zw3td
      @markmanc-zw3td Год назад

      Lovely area visited relatives in Dunedin a few years back, but was quietly told I wasn't welcome in one pub because I was English, but eventually won them round when I advised them my friends in my local are Scots,English,Polish,Irish & African & my own heritage is all bits of the British Isles.
      Anyway overall I found the people as great as the scenery.

  • @chrissaltmarsh6777
    @chrissaltmarsh6777 Год назад +7

    About 3 minutes in, I looked at the date. Is this April 1st? Marmeduke Thweng? Bannockburn on the other side of the world?
    Then I looked it up.
    Brilliant story.

  • @therabbithole-sn5yb
    @therabbithole-sn5yb Год назад +9

    Hell yeah! Another great video Bruce!!! I love when you put out new videos, can't wait for the next 1!!! 🇺🇸🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @therabbithole-sn5yb
    @therabbithole-sn5yb Год назад +7

    😂 got off Scot free!!! I really do love your stories Bruce, thanks again for the great video...

  • @MrEnaric
    @MrEnaric Год назад +9

    Loved these new facts! I read About sir Marmaduke Thweng in Robert Low’s novel ‘The Lion Rampant’. IT shows hoe complex characters, familie Ties and loyalties were in middle age conflicts. Keep telling your stories about real people of yore, you excell in iT!

  • @gerryphilly53
    @gerryphilly53 Год назад +5

    Thanks for another well told bit of history. These stories that focus on participants in the greater events show an aspect of the struggles that often is overlooked. Sir Marmeduke’s relationship to the Bruces highlights the complexity of ties that often occur in border areas. I can only imagine that, for some participants, the possibility of facing a relative in combat must have created added stress.

  • @benjaminlasseter8929
    @benjaminlasseter8929 Год назад +4

    Excellent story. And I am glad your tour in the southern hemisphere is going well.

  • @fullyawakeloyah8844
    @fullyawakeloyah8844 Год назад +1

    Love this Chanel keep the awesome content coming my alba gu brath brother 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

  • @jenningscampbell3475
    @jenningscampbell3475 Год назад

    Thank you for your inspirational and informative stories. I was compelled to research the history of my own ancestors and was surprised to find out we date back to the early Earls of Argyle and splitting off to America in the 17th century. Thank you for your teachings.

  • @charlesmorgan8440
    @charlesmorgan8440 Год назад +3

    Wonderful! The relationships of the middle age aristocracy and monarchies were intriguingly more intertwined than a simple them and us, but I won't parrot on!

  • @johnstuartkeller5244
    @johnstuartkeller5244 Год назад +1

    This is one of, if not, my favorite of the bits of history you've shared, Bruce, and a first rate telling, as always.

  • @joanr3189
    @joanr3189 Год назад

    Good story. Thanks.

  • @invisibleman4827
    @invisibleman4827 7 месяцев назад

    This guy has a really interesting story. I'm glad you covered him because he deserves to be remembered, it adds nuance to those wars that often gets missed.
    Thweng may have well been released or escaped before 1299 since his crest appears on the roll of Falkirk 1298,

  • @angryhistoryguy5657
    @angryhistoryguy5657 Год назад +8

    Speaking of English knights being taken captive, I would love to hear your take on the 1388 battle of Otterburn and the two VERY different ballads that were inspired by it.

  • @leandabee
    @leandabee Год назад +11

    There is a city in Tasmania called Glenorchy. So many Scottish names here, Ben Lomond, Perth, Campbell Town, and a few others I've mentioned in previous vids 😀. See ya on the 14th 😊

  • @annabellamarston448
    @annabellamarston448 Год назад +1

    Love your Saturday morning stories.Something to look forward to.Hope your storied are well received down under.

  • @thecelticprince4949
    @thecelticprince4949 Год назад +7

    An idea for a story for you Bruce. Arthur Thomas was a Scotsman explorer who was commissioned to explore and open up the interior of the State of Parana Brazil and in turn founded the cities of Londrina and Maringa in the north of the State in 1937. He named the city of Londrina (little London) As far as I know it's the only city in Parana that also has an Irish pub. And possibly in all Brazil.

  • @colinharbinson8284
    @colinharbinson8284 Год назад

    "From Yorkshire, in a Norman Knighty sort of way"! which explains one of the reasons why i love this post.

  • @jamesquinn7492
    @jamesquinn7492 Год назад

    Great wee story Bruce , yer 👀 well my man 🥃

  • @mrrhum3311
    @mrrhum3311 Год назад +1

    Another reminder of what family affairs these medieval wars were.

  • @happymonk4206
    @happymonk4206 2 дня назад

    I've always felt a calling to visit Scotland . My ancestry can be traced back to the Picts .Before l die, l will see home.

  • @gordonmcinnes8328
    @gordonmcinnes8328 Год назад +5

    I grew up near Guisborough and worked in Hartlepool where the De-Brus family had lands. You should take a trip down to Teesside Bruce, not as gorgeous as New Zealand but Guisborough priory is certanly worth a visit and it highlights the service the De-Brus's gave to the crown of England for context.

  • @GrahamBlack-xe6yu
    @GrahamBlack-xe6yu Год назад +1

    Fascinating! And made even more enjoyable by the top quality humour :)

  • @djonfonsteen6331
    @djonfonsteen6331 Год назад +2

    Happy days!!

  • @johnmurray2995
    @johnmurray2995 Год назад +2

    Great story well told. Including the dreadful pun at the end!

  • @brucestevenson8797
    @brucestevenson8797 Год назад +1

    That's a great story and good to see you in Central Otago. Hope your tour is going well.

  • @milestogo8451
    @milestogo8451 Год назад +1

    Must be a sair fecht for you, putting up with all that sunny warm weather at this time of year. 😎

  • @melissavancleave8686
    @melissavancleave8686 Год назад

    Lovely to hear of the more personal stories you tell. Glad your tour is going well.

  • @fayelawless2625
    @fayelawless2625 Год назад

    I LOVE LEARNING ALL THE DIFFERENT NAMES OMG! Clydetoon is adorbs and charming. Sorry! But it is!!

  • @wjoyes
    @wjoyes Год назад +1

    I’ve been there!! I’m so excited to see this first video from your recent NZ tour. I’m born and raised kiwi 😁

  • @user-qt8pt7nt7l
    @user-qt8pt7nt7l Год назад

    Fantastic video!!!

  • @gettinglost270
    @gettinglost270 10 месяцев назад

    Outstanding Bruce really enjoyed this episode, well done big man 👏

  • @MackofDuart
    @MackofDuart Год назад

    Couple of years ago I was at Duart Castle on Mull. I met with the Ian McClean who told me that the McVay's were Pikemen at Bannockburn. He told me that Pikemen carried the day. I don't know if it is true but I enjoyed the story.

  • @helenswan705
    @helenswan705 Год назад

    I confess I dont know about it at all, though i have known the name all my life. Looking forward to the story

  • @onbedoeldekut1515
    @onbedoeldekut1515 Год назад +1

    Have you ever considered doing a bit of magnet fishing off Stirling bridge to see if any old English 'trinkets' might be found to adorn your walls?

  • @kirkmorrison6131
    @kirkmorrison6131 Год назад +1

    I really enjoy your stories, you tell them so well. I wish you were some of my History Professors. I would have hung on every word.

  • @alleikat01
    @alleikat01 Год назад +1

    Just watched you in Lost King.

  • @colinprice712
    @colinprice712 Год назад +1

    What fascinated us was passing places with Scottish names - next to Welsh place names!
    Don’t forget the Welsh! - and the sheep dogs…

  • @x9H05Tx
    @x9H05Tx Год назад +1

    He had 3 sons but the first died childless while the other 2 entered the clergy. His eldest daughter Lucia married the Northumbrian Baron Robert of Lumley.
    They named their son Marmaduke and adopted the Thweng coat of arms. Marmaduke's parrots are still flown by the Earl of Scarborough today.

  • @RoberttheFox0001
    @RoberttheFox0001 Год назад

    That was wonderful Bruce and you were right, I hadn't heard it before. Thank You.

  • @seangeppi1839
    @seangeppi1839 Год назад

    Love your stories❤

  • @bullfrommull
    @bullfrommull Год назад

    I used to play with my friends in the Pelsrteam burn.

  • @calgacusofcaledonia
    @calgacusofcaledonia Год назад

    Nice 👍

  • @ritchieblackmore2711
    @ritchieblackmore2711 Год назад

    Best of story Bruce my friend afternoon bud

  • @adamdrake-brockman1889
    @adamdrake-brockman1889 Год назад

    Marmeduke is my hero, thanks for the storyline

  • @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach
    @kennethmacgregor-Gregorach Год назад +2

    1 of 100 knights who made a "heroic escape" at the battle of Stirling Bridge .

  • @NeilClark-FalkirkPiping
    @NeilClark-FalkirkPiping Год назад

    Brilliant! If you can at all, fit in Stewart Island,,, mental! I played there Hogmanay 2009....

  • @elendil7
    @elendil7 Год назад

    Fabulous story. ❤ Looks like you're having perfect weather there.

  • @frmcf
    @frmcf Год назад +8

    For anyone wondering what Bruce says in Gaelic at the end of all his videos, it's an old Gaelic saying that roughly translates to:
    "Don't forget to subscribe and smash the like button."

  • @keithday3658
    @keithday3658 Год назад

    If you are going to Melbourne, there is a Bannockburn about an hour from there.

  • @melissamybubbles6139
    @melissamybubbles6139 Год назад

    That was a good story. Thank you.

  • @eamonnclabby7067
    @eamonnclabby7067 Год назад

    Thank you for sharing this...fascinating stuff...E...

  • @scotsbillhicks
    @scotsbillhicks Год назад

    Great video and I have to chuckle at the memory of Spike Milligan when he trolled Life On Earth. “Here in a 5 star hotel on the Hawaiian island of Ohau, filming Conditions, and expenses, are perfect.” Worth every penny, you, Spike, and Sir David.

  • @whoarewe7515
    @whoarewe7515 Год назад

    Beautiful place.

  • @TheTimelord62
    @TheTimelord62 Год назад

    Hope your enjoying New Zealand. Enjoy

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад +1

      What's not to like?

    • @TheTimelord62
      @TheTimelord62 Год назад

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours trying to find out if any of my family in Auckland are going to see you. Watch out for a shout if they are 👌

  • @Dylan-gx2qw
    @Dylan-gx2qw Год назад

    Would like to see you do a video on the romans in Kirkintilloch

  • @alansmithee8831
    @alansmithee8831 Год назад +1

    A'reyt Bruce. Your soft spot for Yorkshire is showing in this cracking tale from a beautiful location.
    Those Normans were not that well liked here though, after the "Harrying of the North". You can see it from all the place names with "Robin Hood" in them.
    It does give me another chance to mention the RUclips channel of a Yorkshire lass called Catherine Warr, which viewers might like? I mentioned this channel on comments there, after finding it and subscribing. It could do with some more subscribers I reckon.
    P.S. If that is not your kind of thing, then another Yorkshire lass, Lucy on Benidorm Stuff channel did a St Patrick's Day video, as if to prove my saying that if you scratch an Englishman you will find a bit of green.

  • @annasaylor3566
    @annasaylor3566 Год назад

    Great story 😊 ☮️❤️🌹🦋🕯️

  • @cafiend
    @cafiend Год назад

    Love your videos!

  • @loganv0410
    @loganv0410 Год назад

    Ya got me! I did _not_ see that twisty end coming.
    Well punned!

  • @Leon-bc8hm
    @Leon-bc8hm Год назад

    I am Dutch and I am binging all your videos after discovering your channel. Great content. And I even understand most of the jokes... I think.😅

  • @TracyWaller-yp4jb
    @TracyWaller-yp4jb 3 месяца назад

    Hi just found out I am directly related to Marmaduke Twang, so guess to Robert de Bruce too in a round about way.

  • @ewanspeight6226
    @ewanspeight6226 Год назад

    This guy sounds like a badass

  • @Luluhurts
    @Luluhurts Год назад

    My GGGGR John MACDONALD, from island of Eigg. Then immigrated to PICTOU, NOVA SCOTIA 1780..
    I have all the ancestry books from NS.

  • @janetmackinnon3411
    @janetmackinnon3411 Год назад

    Hope your stamina holds out on the tour! Guid fowk are scarce! and we've obviously a fair bit to learn yet...

  • @barry4887
    @barry4887 Год назад

    Aye, nothing like an ice cold Red Stripe during the hot summer days !

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад +2

    Marmaduke de Thweng was the son of Marmaduke Thweng of Kilton and Alice de Brus, who was the great great granddaughter of Adam de Brus, Lord of Skelton, and brother to Robert de Brus, 1st Lord of Annandale, and founder of Guisborough Priory where the chronicle you quoted from was written.

    • @garygalt4146
      @garygalt4146 Год назад

      Hi Neil you sound very knowledgeable. So perhaps you can help me. I have a stupid Brain disease which, one side effect from tablets is brain fog. I have seen the coat of arms. Somewhere and can’t remember and it’s driving me up the wall. I’m Lancashire lad but have family in Yorkshire and have always visited historic sites. And I just know I’ve seen his coat of arms. Hope you can help.

    • @neiloflongbeck5705
      @neiloflongbeck5705 Год назад

      @@garygalt4146 a silver background divided in thirds by a red bar with two green parrots above the bar and 1 below. These arms are now carried by his desendant the Earl of Scarborough. I'm from that part of Yorkshire that the de Brus family held.

    • @x9H05Tx
      @x9H05Tx Год назад +1

      ​@@garygalt4146 Marmaduke had 3 sons, one died childless and the others joined the church. His eldest daughter married the Baron of Lumley who adopted the crest, since it was quite famous after Stirling Bridge. It's now used by his descendants the Earls of Scarborough.
      Marmaduke's great-grandson Ralph was beheaded after the Epiphany rising plot against Henry IV.

  • @SkeletalRemains2
    @SkeletalRemains2 Год назад +1

    This is incredible, my son just sent me a link to this video to watch, as Marmeduke de Thwenge is our ancestor! There is another earlier Marmeduke in our family tree born in 1100 in England and I am a 33rd generation descendant of his. I’ve never counted to find out how many generations we are descended from the Marmeduke who was in the Scottish Freedom Wars, but I know he is in my line. That coat of arms blew me away as well because that is my family’s coat of arms lol. Great video!!!

  • @WarlockHolmes420
    @WarlockHolmes420 Год назад +1

    We love ya Bruce! Come down here anytime bro ❤.

  • @christopher-ke9nj
    @christopher-ke9nj Год назад

    There was another first knight De Argentine sire I have never run from a fight nor will I do now spurring to the nearest schiltrom, dies gallantly

  • @paulmuir2184
    @paulmuir2184 Год назад

    Class video bruce - any plans to do something on Myton on Swale or Old Byland? Two battles people need to know more about that followed on fron Bannockburn! 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад

      Did think about the big anniversary last year, but was in Normandy filming

    • @paulmuir2184
      @paulmuir2184 Год назад

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours still time to do it when you get back mate 😛 no one better to do it than you!

  • @lynnemurphy114
    @lynnemurphy114 Год назад

    💚

  • @stephencairns5967
    @stephencairns5967 Год назад

    I wish you were doing some NSW gigs.

  • @Luluhurts
    @Luluhurts Год назад

    Hey Bruce,
    Love your Shows.. guess who my great great great
    Great grandfather is?

  • @womobewo
    @womobewo Год назад

    The great king was very humane. God bless his legacy 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿♥️🌹👍👍😊

  • @niespiebozwiedzamszkocje
    @niespiebozwiedzamszkocje Год назад

    I like the face painting 😂

  • @stevewiles7132
    @stevewiles7132 Год назад

    Looking forward to the 14th.

  • @DH.2016
    @DH.2016 Год назад

    Good story. 👍
    (p.s. I had heard of Marmaduke Thweng, btw - once heard, it's not a name you're likely to forget! 😄).

  • @Wee_Langside
    @Wee_Langside Год назад

    Thanks for another great story, you're right about not knowing it. That New Zealand scenery looks very like our part of Perthshire, amazingly so in fact, made me homesick.
    As a diversion I'm going to try and find out why 13th century Anglo-Norman nobility should chose green parrots for their symbol of holy trinity.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад +1

      It did surprise me

    • @Wee_Langside
      @Wee_Langside Год назад +1

      @@ScotlandHistoryTours according to the Internet first recorded in mid 13th century for that family. In the time of Henry III.
      The parrot was known as a popinjay at that time.
      So thanks again, it's a bad day when when you don't learn something new

    • @janetmackinnon3411
      @janetmackinnon3411 Год назад +1

      @@Wee_Langside "Shooting at the popinjay", a collection of coloured feathers at the top f a high pole, was a sport. Maybe the first Baron Thweng won an important match?

  • @kentaylor4242
    @kentaylor4242 Год назад +3

    Another Bannockburn 😮 you’ll tell me next there is another Cumbernauld 😅

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад +1

      What are they called?😂

    • @tconbo4514
      @tconbo4514 Год назад

      Naw, there'll never be another cumbernauld, it would go against the laws of nature or physics, or god. . .

  • @coreymckay6929
    @coreymckay6929 Год назад

    Hey Bruce, my names Corey and I’ve commented before I love your videos and you are so much like my uncle humour wise.. but I was wondering if you could talk about my Family Clan the Gunn Clan if you can? I know I was born In Inverness but I’ve always wondered why the clan isn’t really talked about as much as other clans. You’re an amazing person Bruce… latha math a bhith agad

  • @jrtomlin1805
    @jrtomlin1805 Год назад

    Ralph de Monthermer who tradition says warned (later King) Robert the Bruce that he had been betrayed to King Edward I was also released without ransom. Many take that as proof that there is at least some truth to the tale.

  • @cyankirkpatrick5194
    @cyankirkpatrick5194 Год назад +1

    Haste ye back.

  • @djsexking
    @djsexking Год назад

    As a proud Scot, I'm not sure if it shows chivalry or not. Sounds more like family ties mean more than the fight for independence.

  • @franushbloodaxe6408
    @franushbloodaxe6408 Год назад

    Drat, only just discovered you were here in nz. Hope you enjoy antipodes.

  • @b.griffin317
    @b.griffin317 Год назад +1

    Boy, you sure get around Bruce. First Shetland, now New Zealand. I half expect to next hear you're on the Moon (I'm sure you'll find a part of the Moon with a Scottish connection somewhere).

    • @CailenCambeul
      @CailenCambeul Год назад +1

      Supporters of Bonnie Prince Charlie after Bannockburn built a steam rocket and headed off to form a Highland Empire on the dark side of the moon.

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад +2

      😜

    • @ScotlandHistoryTours
      @ScotlandHistoryTours  Год назад +2

      For sure

    • @janetmackinnon3411
      @janetmackinnon3411 Год назад +1

      Neil Armstrong? and (oh dear!) Richard Nixon. Both Border names.

  • @Nastyswimmer
    @Nastyswimmer Год назад

    "The better part of valour is discretion, in the which better part have I saved mine own life" (Falstaff in Henry IV part I). It doesn't actually mean that discretion is part of valour, but rather that it is its counterpart - its opposite - but better because it allows Falstaff (a blustering, comedic coward) to survive.

  • @TheMightyAsterix
    @TheMightyAsterix Год назад +1

    Also proves the club that always looks after its own, and we ain't in it!

  • @yarrowwitch
    @yarrowwitch Год назад

    In mediaeval times, parrots were called Popinjays 😊

  • @user-cu2tm1lf8h
    @user-cu2tm1lf8h Год назад

    Found out im 24% Scottish 😊

  • @blubbery68ps4videos2
    @blubbery68ps4videos2 Год назад

    Make a video on the macdonald that fought for Napoleon

  • @nicollanglands8840
    @nicollanglands8840 Год назад

    I’d love to buy you a coffee ….nae sugar or milk …just good coffee….

  • @dougiem1
    @dougiem1 Год назад

    Other famous people to escape Dumbarton David Byrne of Talking heads

  • @nancyholcombe8030
    @nancyholcombe8030 Год назад

    Had Marmaduke Tweng been where Henry de Bohun was two nights before, we'd be hearing a woeful tale of killing a cousin who was English! And I'll wager both sides would've gotten the story 100% right for the exact opposite reasons!😀 Fortunately for this knight, it was after the battle and so bending a knee meant a dungeon cell at the worst or a good meal with a cousin you hadn't seen in ages! Either way, you're spending the night indoors for a change and out of that lovely weather! Marmaduke chose wisely! Suspect Henry wishes that he had!

  • @LimeyRedneck
    @LimeyRedneck Год назад

    🤠🦜💜

  • @nickiatemygreatgrandmother
    @nickiatemygreatgrandmother Год назад

    My dad took dna tests and guess what? I’m related to him!

  • @janinecopperwheat6379
    @janinecopperwheat6379 Год назад

    😂 Cromwell

  • @slydermartin6008
    @slydermartin6008 Год назад +1

    "Got off Scot Free" 👀. Is there another "story" in that story Bruce?

    • @janetmackinnon3411
      @janetmackinnon3411 Год назад +1

      Here "scot" does not refer to a Scotsman. It was a tax, from the Latin 'scutum', meaning 'shield', which appeared on the coin used to pay it.

    • @slydermartin6008
      @slydermartin6008 Год назад

      @@janetmackinnon3411 Thank you Janet. Very interesting.