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This is one of the top 3 channels for cash game grinders for sure. Saulo such easy and good explanations. Thx for the free content. Big respect from Europe ✌️
This might be the most enjoyable format I've found so far, not only instructive but incredibly funny when realizing how little we actually know about solvers at this point in time. Thank you for sharing, this was great.
Really love this type of videos. My favorite video so far. With your comments you are really open my eyes. I will appricate more "Train like a Pro" videos for different spots (BB Defense, 3bet pots, OOP as PFR, etc)
dudd1 uses small bets on akx boards:) He is one of the biggest cg winners over the last years in the highest stakes. If you compare small bet and big bet sims on those boards, yes, big bet is solver preffered but the EV difference is not huge. Rather focus on how villain should be responding and whats the "tougher puzzle" you give him. Big bets make it easy for Villain. Small bets where he has to defend a big portion of his range often make it way tougher.
Dudd is a great player indeed. That does not make every hand that he plays correct, however. Good players still make bad plays. About what you said of the "tougher puzzle", I agree completely! About the small sizing being the toughest, I don't. Small bets on the flop have been mainstream for the past 5 years, and population tendencies data shows how regulars have gotten really really close to solver execution facing small bets (only a 1% deviation, which could simply be statistical error of the sample size). In contrast, no one has studied sufficiently what are the appropriate thresholds for calling and raising vs big bets, which makes them the best choice in my opinion - both in theory and in practice
@@saulocostapoker hi, I have a question. If there’s a spot where you have to pure check but you bet. How would the bot react? Irl spot where villain bet into me when it should be range check, how should I react?
@@singaporecryptoI'm not a pro or a coach, but I want to share some thoughts that you should think about critically: When players bet on flops where they usually might not, like with high, wet flops (for example, Q♦J♥5♥), they might be trying to protect their not-so-strong hands or push with their drawing hands. They're basically trying to push you out of the pot or protect their own hand from losing to future cards. 1. **Against 2/3 pot bets**: If the opponent bets big, think about folding your weaker hands because they might not be bluffing much. But with your strong hands (like sets, two pairs, or the best top pair), consider raising instead of just calling. For some draws or okay hands, calling might still be good. 2. **Exploiting weak checking range**: If they bet like this, it means when they don't bet (they check), their hand is probably not very strong. This is your chance to bet and bet huge with most of your hands, putting pressure on them because they've shown weakness. Just remember, this is advice from someone who's not a professional, so make sure to think about it yourself too.
@@saulocostapoker Since flop bet sizing EV isn't really too important, I think flop bet sizes should depend largely on the opponent. On AKx board I range bet small vs. fish, overbet vs. regs, and overbet vs. calling stations., vs. nit reg, bet small. etc....
Great format in this vid- would love to see more content like this from the opposite perspective (bb defending against a button open) as well as 3-bet pots as the PRF and three bettor as well. Great vid
Awesome Saulo! Was just looking at improving my study to specific spots, this was fun...and very common BB vs Button...think I'm losing a lot calling pre-flop in BB.
I've watched a few of your other videos and you always seem so confident in what the correct play is. This one was really interesting because of how often you not only made mistakes here, but also didn't understand the solver's strategy. Just goes to show that even top-tier players have more to learn! Love your videos, appreciate the insights!
Saulo, in a specific CFP Company players move UP accordingly their game level, no matter results. I mean, If a player is playing well but is negative because of variance, he stills move UP. Is like this in metagame?
Moving up someone that is losing can't be a good idea...even if they are losing because of variance, they will still lose confidence and play below their full capacity. By increasing stakes when someone is low in confidence you are just asking for a disaster - you increase monetary pressure, so losses have even more weight. Don't know who you saw is doing this but in my humble opinion that's either a business mistake or fake news 😂 What we do inside Metagame is we move people up in Tier regardless of results. Tier is an internal grouping system that puts players of a similar level to have classes together, with the same coaches, and get access to the same material. We can move up someone in Tiers even if they are losing or breaking even, because if they are applying themselves they should get access to more experienced coaches and more advanced content. When it comes to stakes played however, recent results have to be taken into account. They are certainly not the only factor though - consistency, stats, communication, mental attitude, all of these things will be considered when moving someone up in stakes. Hope that helped
22:45 I understand what you say about metagame not slowplaying enough flushes on turn, but I think that there is a massive overfold to de delayed c-bet, so what would you think it's the best exploit? Would you still bet the turn? maybe 1/3?
2:15. small bet fold their complete trash with equity vs our trash, so could you explain a bit why the range small bet being worse(maybe lose some ev compare another strategy )?
A big bet also folds your opponents trash, since trash folds to any sizing. However, folding out trash is not something of importance on a board like this. IPs range is really strong, and OOPs trash is really trash. When both of these things happen it means OOP won't be allowed to bluff their trash often at all, and if such trash improves it won't be to very strong hands, which means you can bluff them off still. Whats of higher importance on boards like those is to leverage your top pair+ advantage. You can only do that with bigger sizings
Hi Saulo. Great video. Can you possibly explain what those percentages mean next to the bet sizes on the solution? Why is there multiple percentages next to each bet size?
19:33 That is absolutely mental we can just 11x pot jam trips on that board 7% of the time. Would that be a bluff? Or is one of river those weird river merge spots no human ever finds where we get looked up by some worse hands but get some small flushes to fold?
Yep, thats exactly it. Most flushes fold to such large sizing, then OOP calls K9 and then a bunch of random one pairs like Ax and Kx. Since 9x blocks K9, it gets called a lot by worse and folds a lot better
I cant find explanation for that eather. 9x and Tx i undestand cause it blockes the straight. Guess some random 8x you get to the river with that doesnt block missed flushes could be fine but i dont understand how the solver gets to that.
Using a pair as a bluff raise is a quite common occurrence in solver land. When you share a pair with the board, you accomplish 2 things: 1 - You have removal towards many possible 2pair combinations, and one set; 2 - One of your cards certainly doesn't interact with the bet fold region of your opponent, since your opponent will not turn a pair into a bluff
Thanks, Saulo. Very informative and pleasant to watch! Do you play with 2 sizings on the flop on some flops as in the simulation? I thought you are simplifying to 1 size only on flops and turns.
A6s on TT9tt is actually interesting to 3b, I would always call but when I saw there is some 3b frequency I realized that we are dominating some of his lower FDs as a bluff and those hands really suffer to continue, as well as some straight draws or maybe if villain find a random no equity bluff.
Hello Saulo. Thanks for the helpful videos on your channel. I will probably ask for the 174th time (sorry please))): what is the name of your program in which you train in this video. Thank you so much for your feedback and good luck at the tables!!
What are your thoughts on flop sizing simplifications by having one of cbet sizing only (low stakes)? Isn't a big gain in EV to master the TURN play for much more EV than sweating on flops? Seems like the pool overall make much more mistakes vs small sizes anyway. Thanks for your content Saulo it's pure gold, with a big smile. 😂
I did that for a few years and crushed. Then I switched to more complex flop strategy and continued to crush. I think you should do whatever gives you less cognitive dissonance. I stopped doing it because I knew it was bad theoretically and I was capable of playing the correct sizings without any additional effort. If playing the correct sizings will cost you too much energy at the moment, then sure just stick with small size. However, it doesn't take much to learn what are the appropriate sizings in any given board. Playing small size only is quite exploitable in many boards
Interesting to see you surprised by the turn decision of the solver to pure bet this specific combo (K4cc). You even gave the exact reasoning as to why one should bet this combo and continue to barrel it on turn completing straight draws.
There is big difference between a mixed strategy and a pure strategy. The combo being a pure strategy was what shocked me the most. Being able to print money with a no equity bluff with one card left to roll and a board that makes your opponent completely uncapped is not something you see, almost ever
hi saulo, what do you think about adjust the sizings based on enemy tendencies with stats?, for example, given my oponent folds a lot to river bets, i like to bet small on flop and turn, create a good pot and fold equity, and then, give a big punch on the river, because when you cbet 1/3 for example, enemy often continues with a large range and he find a hard time calling this range on later streets, and on the other hand, when my oponent has a really large fold on the flop, i like to go one and done with a bigger sizing, and when my oponent is a station i like to cbet big, what are your thoughts on this?, i feel like this has more ev than GTO.
I think you are on the right direction. GTO makes a lot of money vs anyone, but indeed exploitative play can make even more. So if you have reasons to deviate, and you are confident you can execute the exploit, you should absolutely do it. As far as your exact approach described, I think it makes sense and has good ideas but should be more nuanced than that. Just the HUD stat doesn't tell you whats the best option in any given moment, specially with multiple streets left to play. Make sure to always consider factors such as your perceived range, your hand equity and blockers, your opponent's raising tendencies, and so on.
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This is one of the top 3 channels for cash game grinders for sure. Saulo such easy and good explanations. Thx for the free content. Big respect from Europe ✌️
What are your 2 other one? 😇
if anyone else is even in this ballpark lmk because I can’t find em
I found Saulo through Ceegee87. Like that guy a lot. 😊
@@___gh0st___ I think the other one is Pete Carroter, I like that guy too
@@eazeazeazplayitsmart poker most def
This might be the most enjoyable format I've found so far, not only instructive but incredibly funny when realizing how little we actually know about solvers at this point in time. Thank you for sharing, this was great.
One of the greatest vídeos format of all time🎉🎉🎉🎉
Please, more of this format
Really love this type of videos. My favorite video so far. With your comments you are really open my eyes. I will appricate more "Train like a Pro" videos for different spots (BB Defense, 3bet pots, OOP as PFR, etc)
Me too!
dudd1 uses small bets on akx boards:) He is one of the biggest cg winners over the last years in the highest stakes. If you compare small bet and big bet sims on those boards, yes, big bet is solver preffered but the EV difference is not huge. Rather focus on how villain should be responding and whats the "tougher puzzle" you give him. Big bets make it easy for Villain. Small bets where he has to defend a big portion of his range often make it way tougher.
Dudd is a great player indeed. That does not make every hand that he plays correct, however. Good players still make bad plays. About what you said of the "tougher puzzle", I agree completely! About the small sizing being the toughest, I don't. Small bets on the flop have been mainstream for the past 5 years, and population tendencies data shows how regulars have gotten really really close to solver execution facing small bets (only a 1% deviation, which could simply be statistical error of the sample size). In contrast, no one has studied sufficiently what are the appropriate thresholds for calling and raising vs big bets, which makes them the best choice in my opinion - both in theory and in practice
@@saulocostapoker hi, I have a question. If there’s a spot where you have to pure check but you bet. How would the bot react?
Irl spot where villain bet into me when it should be range check, how should I react?
@@singaporecryptoI'm not a pro or a coach, but I want to share some thoughts that you should think about critically:
When players bet on flops where they usually might not, like with high, wet flops (for example, Q♦J♥5♥), they might be trying to protect their not-so-strong hands or push with their drawing hands. They're basically trying to push you out of the pot or protect their own hand from losing to future cards.
1. **Against 2/3 pot bets**: If the opponent bets big, think about folding your weaker hands because they might not be bluffing much. But with your strong hands (like sets, two pairs, or the best top pair), consider raising instead of just calling. For some draws or okay hands, calling might still be good.
2. **Exploiting weak checking range**: If they bet like this, it means when they don't bet (they check), their hand is probably not very strong. This is your chance to bet and bet huge with most of your hands, putting pressure on them because they've shown weakness.
Just remember, this is advice from someone who's not a professional, so make sure to think about it yourself too.
@@saulocostapoker Since flop bet sizing EV isn't really too important, I think flop bet sizes should depend largely on the opponent. On AKx board I range bet small vs. fish, overbet vs. regs, and overbet vs. calling stations., vs. nit reg, bet small. etc....
Great format in this vid- would love to see more content like this from the opposite perspective (bb defending against a button open) as well as 3-bet pots as the PRF and three bettor as well. Great vid
would you mind sharing what your EV loss average per hand is in these drills and what the sample size is? Also could play some sb v btn 3bp?
Awesome Saulo! Was just looking at improving my study to specific spots, this was fun...and very common BB vs Button...think I'm losing a lot calling pre-flop in BB.
12:25 - do you think the solver is betting these hands more because the BB has a range that _failed to lead_
Kudos on the impeccable content delivery and top-notch thumbnail skills! Thanks for the fantastic videos!
My pleasure!
1:54 Ad5s Why is a big bet good against a range that's mostly trash? Why does a small bet "not do anything" against that range?
Love this channel! As far as size is concerned.. it reminds me of sauce!
I've watched a few of your other videos and you always seem so confident in what the correct play is. This one was really interesting because of how often you not only made mistakes here, but also didn't understand the solver's strategy. Just goes to show that even top-tier players have more to learn! Love your videos, appreciate the insights!
haha wtf he didnt "often" made mistakes at all xD he nailed most of the spots
@@camaleonsacor1618 ... that's what I said?
Any videos on building solver hands or game trees? From you or other individuals?
Saulo, in a specific CFP Company players move UP accordingly their game level, no matter results. I mean, If a player is playing well but is negative because of variance, he stills move UP. Is like this in metagame?
Moving up someone that is losing can't be a good idea...even if they are losing because of variance, they will still lose confidence and play below their full capacity. By increasing stakes when someone is low in confidence you are just asking for a disaster - you increase monetary pressure, so losses have even more weight. Don't know who you saw is doing this but in my humble opinion that's either a business mistake or fake news 😂
What we do inside Metagame is we move people up in Tier regardless of results. Tier is an internal grouping system that puts players of a similar level to have classes together, with the same coaches, and get access to the same material. We can move up someone in Tiers even if they are losing or breaking even, because if they are applying themselves they should get access to more experienced coaches and more advanced content.
When it comes to stakes played however, recent results have to be taken into account. They are certainly not the only factor though - consistency, stats, communication, mental attitude, all of these things will be considered when moving someone up in stakes.
Hope that helped
@@saulocostapoker makes sense. Who said this was Nick Howard.
22:45 I understand what you say about metagame not slowplaying enough flushes on turn, but I think that there is a massive overfold to de delayed c-bet, so what would you think it's the best exploit? Would you still bet the turn? maybe 1/3?
anyone know the name of the app/software is using it for this video ?
can this be applied to tournaments as well?
2:15. small bet fold their complete trash with equity vs our trash, so could you explain a bit why the range small bet being worse(maybe lose some ev compare another strategy )?
A big bet also folds your opponents trash, since trash folds to any sizing. However, folding out trash is not something of importance on a board like this. IPs range is really strong, and OOPs trash is really trash. When both of these things happen it means OOP won't be allowed to bluff their trash often at all, and if such trash improves it won't be to very strong hands, which means you can bluff them off still.
Whats of higher importance on boards like those is to leverage your top pair+ advantage. You can only do that with bigger sizings
You are rapidly becoming my favorite RUclips poker channel, and I really like how esthetically pleasing your videos are! ❤
Thank you!
Oh... I also like Phil Galfond's channel because he gives out a lot of practical information, like Saulo does.
Make a vídeo about the top 10 solver heutistics
Wish I had thought of your idea!
Would it be a better idea to just use 1 sizing for each flop for the sake of simplification?
Do you offer one on one coaching ?
Hi Saulo. Great video. Can you possibly explain what those percentages mean next to the bet sizes on the solution? Why is there multiple percentages next to each bet size?
I think I figured it out. I was just confused when there were multiple answers with percentages but I think those are different lines
19:33 That is absolutely mental we can just 11x pot jam trips on that board 7% of the time.
Would that be a bluff? Or is one of river those weird river merge spots no human ever finds where we get looked up by some worse hands but get some small flushes to fold?
Yep, thats exactly it. Most flushes fold to such large sizing, then OOP calls K9 and then a bunch of random one pairs like Ax and Kx. Since 9x blocks K9, it gets called a lot by worse and folds a lot better
@@saulocostapoker The Solver is such a siko
What is this training thing your using and how do I install it ? Looks like an awesome way to get better at spots
It's a custom GTO Trainer I built by myself. It's not available publicly
@@saulocostapoker gotcha. Fancy schmancy
@@saulocostapoker Would you consider selling it privately?
Amazing content. Thank you for sharing! 😊
5:18 why is it bluff raising 8x combos there
I cant find explanation for that eather. 9x and Tx i undestand cause it blockes the straight. Guess some random 8x you get to the river with that doesnt block missed flushes could be fine but i dont understand how the solver gets to that.
Using a pair as a bluff raise is a quite common occurrence in solver land. When you share a pair with the board, you accomplish 2 things:
1 - You have removal towards many possible 2pair combinations, and one set;
2 - One of your cards certainly doesn't interact with the bet fold region of your opponent, since your opponent will not turn a pair into a bluff
Makes sense, cool play. Thanks for the good content. Great work!
Thanks, Saulo. Very informative and pleasant to watch! Do you play with 2 sizings on the flop on some flops as in the simulation? I thought you are simplifying to 1 size only on flops and turns.
I use just 1 in game. I think its nice to know the other ones used tho
A6s on TT9tt is actually interesting to 3b, I would always call but when I saw there is some 3b frequency I realized that we are dominating some of his lower FDs as a bluff and those hands really suffer to continue, as well as some straight draws or maybe if villain find a random no equity bluff.
Hello Saulo. Thanks for the helpful videos on your channel. I will probably ask for the 174th time (sorry please))): what is the name of your program in which you train in this video. Thank you so much for your feedback and good luck at the tables!!
Hey mate. Its a custom training software I coded myself. Its not available publicly
Nice video. Love this way of seeing what the solver does. The solver is quite a nit today :)
Why do solver prefers to call QJ of spades on As5s2d3h3d?
why do you take rng into account when making a decision? can somebody explain? and how do you calculate it
Bem bom saulao!
I am also interested. I have pio-edge as well, did you hire a programmer to rewrite the trainer?
I coded it myself 😎
@@saulocostapoker well that is inspiring. Thx, I will give it my best shot as well. 😅
@@saulocostapoker do you suggest to write this tool in C# or Python?
What are your thoughts on flop sizing simplifications by having one of cbet sizing only (low stakes)? Isn't a big gain in EV to master the TURN play for much more EV than sweating on flops? Seems like the pool overall make much more mistakes vs small sizes anyway. Thanks for your content Saulo it's pure gold, with a big smile. 😂
I did that for a few years and crushed. Then I switched to more complex flop strategy and continued to crush. I think you should do whatever gives you less cognitive dissonance. I stopped doing it because I knew it was bad theoretically and I was capable of playing the correct sizings without any additional effort. If playing the correct sizings will cost you too much energy at the moment, then sure just stick with small size. However, it doesn't take much to learn what are the appropriate sizings in any given board. Playing small size only is quite exploitable in many boards
My favorite cash game player. Will apply for CFP. Also can you explaine the RNG how to use it?
Name of this software?
It's my own custom made software. I call it Grind Simulator. Not available publicly
Interesting to see you surprised by the turn decision of the solver to pure bet this specific combo (K4cc). You even gave the exact reasoning as to why one should bet this combo and continue to barrel it on turn completing straight draws.
There is big difference between a mixed strategy and a pure strategy. The combo being a pure strategy was what shocked me the most. Being able to print money with a no equity bluff with one card left to roll and a board that makes your opponent completely uncapped is not something you see, almost ever
Looks like Saulo been building some actual muscle as well 💪
That's a lot of checking my mate
checkmate!
hi saulo, what do you think about adjust the sizings based on enemy tendencies with stats?, for example, given my oponent folds a lot to river bets, i like to bet small on flop and turn, create a good pot and fold equity, and then, give a big punch on the river, because when you cbet 1/3 for example, enemy often continues with a large range and he find a hard time calling this range on later streets, and on the other hand, when my oponent has a really large fold on the flop, i like to go one and done with a bigger sizing, and when my oponent is a station i like to cbet big, what are your thoughts on this?, i feel like this has more ev than GTO.
I think you are on the right direction. GTO makes a lot of money vs anyone, but indeed exploitative play can make even more. So if you have reasons to deviate, and you are confident you can execute the exploit, you should absolutely do it.
As far as your exact approach described, I think it makes sense and has good ideas but should be more nuanced than that. Just the HUD stat doesn't tell you whats the best option in any given moment, specially with multiple streets left to play. Make sure to always consider factors such as your perceived range, your hand equity and blockers, your opponent's raising tendencies, and so on.
great content
What kind of program is that
It's a custom trainer I coded myself for my own studies
I like this shit so much!
I like that you like it!
Raise every small bet how you like them apples
i think 67% is just too big to bet an ace on the river there