Die Filer Bench (and last minute re-engineering)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Hey everyone! Lots of folks “suggesting” on this one that I should have opened the hinge out 180° to solve the clearance problem. That’s missing the point- that does nothing to improve clearance for the bolt heads on the motor bracket which require the motor to sit at a high angle. Some folks suggested mortising the wood underneath as well, and sure I suppose you could. That’s a lot more work than what I did though, and my approach means the bolts are accessible for removing the motor without removing any wood screws (which weakens their hold in the future).
what you should have _really_ done is create robots in the shape of tardigrades which would have arduinos programmed to make them grab both the surfaces and hold tight _and_ for fun, one would make a quiet metal on metal squeak and the other a very quiet fart sound rarely, at long random intervals, maybe once every two to seven months
Couple spots of weld, then no bolt heads to deal with!
1/4-20 flat head machine bolts with either allen or torx drive ,, counter sink the hinge plate to match the bolt head or nearest metric size
I probably would have just carved out some clearance from the table's underside. It's wood and you could probably chisel out a pocket for the bolt heads to recess into, but I have more than 1 chisel too. We do what we feel comfortable with and if it works, it works :D
I thought you did a fine job on the belt slot, and the project overall. I’m not a fan of the Home Depot guard material, but it is 100% justifiable for getting rid of it!
On the V-belt, some of your vibration may come from the permanent bends in the material as it flops over the round pulleys. If it bothers you, test by using a more flexible replacement like a strong cord, and potentially replace it with segmented link belt. I put a link belt on my table saw (which I have used to cut wood AND cast iron!), and it took a lot of the vibration out.
You earned plenty of woodworking cred for having a sharp chisel!
If a machinist can't sharpen a chisel, she loses machinist points.
A story told to me a half century ago or more by an old wood worker.
There were two skilled craftsmen, one a machinist, one a woodworker. Needless to say, they were great friends, but did give each other a hard time about their chosen materials.
Both did very fine work. But the machinist did have a problem. When the blade on his bandsaw would break, he could just never get the new one welded together right, the joint kept breaking. So in the end, he would take it to his wood working friend to weld it. The woodworker would never tell the machinist his secret on getting a good spot weld.
Anyway, the both had a common friend and one day that friend asked of the woodworker, so why can you do that weld when the machinist can't. The wood worker responded, we both file the end taper correctly to get the weld, I blow off the ends to clear the filings, but my machinist friend wipes those ends off with his greasy fingers.
I know, a bit long, but what the heck. The point is, cleanliness is next to a proper current path for welding.
@johannesfiftyeight9287 ....or abuse it. 😂 I have plenty of friends that fall into the latter category. Having said that, I think Quinn probably has great woodworking skills, but she has too much fun abusing us poor woodworkers to admit it.
Should have used the die filer to massage the slot….😂
@@MrTjbnwi I was wondering why she didn't mill the slot, and then square up the corners with the die filer. You beat me to it!
That stool as a jack trick is genius.
The house I grew up in (Sears Kit Home in Washington, DC) had radiator covers of the material with the four-leaf-clover pattern in it. I also recall some baking station in my youth that had that same pattern as venty decoration. The radiator covers were made from wood panels like a book case with that screen over the front so they heat could come out, all painted the same as the rest of the walls in the house. The top was open, like a bookshelf, and frequently had a cat on it in our house (there were several scattered about; also good for lamps and the occasional small statue...).
@@bobbob8229 Especially on radiators!! And one had afternoon sunshine.
@@bobbob8229 Don't ask a Maker how to make stuff from cats...!! 😎
I think that the radiator cover sheet goods is thinner, with smaller holes . The brass looks more like the stuff used for forced air floor vent covers. (At least in my experience of 75+ years in Toronto)
Kind of surprised Quinn didn't hand form a guard out of copper after all the work she did on the boiler. .
Ah thanks - I finally get what is meant by 'radiator covers'. Being a car-guy I immediately went to car radiators and could not figure out for the life me what others were talking about. 😲
Jeez. Whoever put that first hole in the bracket did a terrible job lining it up with the two you added. 😄
Your videos are always a bright spot in my day. Thanks for sharing your projects. 🙂
Thankyou 👍
I don’t know what they were thinking, putting it way out of line like that. 😬
If you had a working dye grinder, you could slot the hole to the right place.
A wood chisel won't work!
@@richardw3294 not with that attitude it won't. 😄
Having the holes not-lined-up is actually stronger for the wood, so there!
Quinn , you should not be ashamed of your work . Not everything looks like the Mona Lisa and doesn't have to . Your wood working was fine and served . You created a beautiful die filer and bench , well done . Take care .
The "not terrible" scene had me creasing 😂 Amazing stuff as always, Quinn. Curious to see what's on the next episode
The battle cry of engineers, farmers, and home DIY across the world :)
1:47 Thank you for converting 20ft into microns. I was confused but that helped tremendously.
When I was working as a mechanic I saw one of the old timers in the shop estimating v-belt lengths with one of the shop extension cords, it's flexible and wide enough to fill the Vs in most pulleys without touching the bottom. I've used the trick a fair amount myself and it works pretty well, but I don't have a lot of extension cords most of the time and I found that surgical tubing works pretty well too. :D
Beware the stretch of surgical tubing though 😔
Using a prefab work cart as a movable workbench is extremely good idea. As for your woodworking, you got the job done and it looks good.
As Quinn said, unless it makes you happy to build it, save the money and buy it. For instance, for my mini lathe, I needed a good strong stable stand to get it up and running. Yes, at some point I will find a good used roll away tool box for that purpose, but for now it's on a Wen wood working lathe stand. Stable and works nicely.
As someone in the HVAC trade and work with other trades. We have a saying, "Can't see it from my place."
As a hobbyist with limited space and various bench mounted bits of machinery (like the home made router table), I solved the 'emergency stop' situation by buying (Ebay) a metal heavy duty enclosed foot switch and attached a double output short lead to it - good for powering up and down machine and dust extraction at the same time. So in the event in wanting to cut the power A.S.A.P. especially when both hands are in use, it's pretty instantaneous.
From a cellulose monkey, put a flat reference on the lines you want to mortise down into. Then keeping the flat back of the chisel on there gives you an easy flat pretty edge. No criticism from me :)
Yea, I was impressed that you didn't need a mallet, so your one-good-chisel was indeed good. My only thought was that you're not holding it vertically -- you should be cutting, not scraping.
Having one very nice chisel would be better than having a drawer full of cheap ones. But I happened across the Lee Valley Tools catalog where he editorializes a lot, listing the properties of a good chisel and then concluding "most manufacturers feel that 3 out of 4 will do." He sourced a set of chisels manufactured to his sensibilities that basically give you a whole set for the price of a single Japanese Samurai chisel.
That is far from not terrible, it's looks very fitting for a machine and setup from The early 1900s
I'm not a machinist and I'm not a woodworker, but I've dabbled in both and it's either fun, or for stuff I can't otherwise get. A lot like programming, actually.
And the only reason I don't have a float-lock is I don't have the tools to build one. I barely have a use for one, but every time I use that drill press, I wish I had it.
Long ago I worked in a lab testing plastic additives. We had a lab-scale plastic extrusion machine with a heated snout that caused more than a few burn accident reports to be written. I built a shield from 1/4" hardware cloth that was, in design, almost identical to yours. The number of burns produced went down considerably. However, the number of reports on small cuts caused by the edge of the hardware cloth went up a lot. Eventually we got wise and relocated the machine so it stopped being a global hazard. In the spirit of "I love your channel" I won't ask for any royalties for using my unpatented design. 😺 Cheers!
Using the shop stool as a lift is something I know I will be using in the future! Always learning something when I watch your videos!
Giving the steel length in microns is a power move.
That would be nice to being measured accurately. Lol.
That belt guard looks spectacular. Really steam punk. Well done 😀
Very cool, Quinn. It's nice that your new bench seems to be exactly the same height as the toolbox it sits next to!
I remember when I got my first chisel. I had to flatten the oil stone before I used it and spent hours sharpening it. 7 year old me was so proud. Still got that chisel but its had baby's and now Im a proud father of 15 little wood munchers
That decorative brass sheeting is used to make old school steam radiator covers in houses. Always nice to see a fellow draftsperson using CAD..
Quinn, that was a solid job on the dead tree carcass. I've seen so called wood workers whom didn't own a single sharp chisel. Instead they roughed the opening with a saw, and finished with a router.
I purchased that exact same bench. Great choice! My chisels are so sharp I can almost chisel wood with them 😅
Hey Quinn just wanted to tell you I love your sense of humour and narrative style. Keep the videos coming and I'll keep watching!
And love the Skookum reference( except for keeping something in the vice!!!?)🫢🤪lol!!! And back to the grommets -McMaster Carr!!
The motor guard was brilliant, well done whom ever suggested that.
Woodworking was "not terrible"... I'm going to start using that as my new description category for my projects! As always, I learned something.
"I just eyeballed it" the woodworking's getting to ya quin.. 😂 love the wire basket! That's genius!
@ 8:30 You could mount the hinge open and lying down, and drill a recess for bolt heads. Love your builds.😀
That metal is what was used to box in large steam or hot water radiators. It's junk metal that is an approximation of similar sheet that would be installed in century homes.
Yeah, the Victorians used actual brass, but even with all the holes that’s too expensive these days.
Quinn, I have to say, as a woodchuck, that you are far better at woodworking than I am at machining. :) As for the float lock vise... I want one every time you show it, but then I look at commercial pricing and go back to buying very expensive joinery saws instead. :)
Your content continues to grow in style, charm, and humor. Very much enjoying the show - thank you for your efforts.
I declare this video "Not Terrible ! ! ! ".... Your sense of humor was in fine form for this video ! I chuckled and laughed through pretty much all of it! Especially the "Not Terrible" fanfare ! You're too hard on yourself when it comes to the modest wood working. The only "trick" you missed out on using was stopping short and flipping the top over and drill from above using the pilots from the tip just breaking thru as described by richf419 below. As for the chisel work Paul Sellers or James Wright would have given it a "thumbs up" just fine. The basket guard is also brilliant. I'll be "borrowing" that idea if I need it in the future.
Quinn scooping a hole i wood with a spoon ;) Turned out beautiful love the safety storage basket!
Achieving Not Terrible is the common ground between us woodworkers and you metal masters of precision!
It wasn't "leaking oil", it was marking its territory. ;-)
Awesome video as always. A quick tip regarding the blowout when drilling wood: You can clamp a piece of sacrificial wood on the side the drill will exit to support the fibers. This will give you really crisp edges 99% of the time, but it can be a little awkward to get the board in place when your drilling in the center of a large piece.
Woodworkers trick: drill a small pilot hole clear thru, use the paddle bit to drill most of the way thru, using the pilot hole as a guide. Flip the piece over and drill thru from the other side using the same pilot holes. Presto-change-o! No tear out!
Nice work!
Hey, "reasonably skookum" and "not terrible", in the same project? A winner!
Terrific job Quinn. I'm sure you'll get a lot of use out of it. I get a kick out of your humour too.
Extra credit for the "skookum".
I just looked it up to find that 'skookum' is considered 'Chinook Jargon'. I always thought it was just a word made up by AvE.
@@kindabluejazz As far as I am aware it is an indigenous word that means "fast water" or "good". But I have no particular authority on that. It's just what I was told.
We used that same mesh when building a built-in bench that has a return air vent underneath it. works great with some stained wood around it.
Woodworker here. 1stly thank you for your videos. I always look forward to them as I'm busy saving money for my 1st metal lathe. Always good idea to put a bit of candle wax on a screw when driving it into hardwood. Lessens the risk of the head snapping off
A Great Build! The next thing I believe I would consider adding would be a small goose-neck vacuum head that can keep the shavings from the filing clear and out of they way (and your lungs)!! Once again, Great Build!
Quinn makes me happy
makin good ones rocks
Premium sass in this episode is highly recommended viewing ❤
Although I don't read the comments, if some don't "like" your woodworking, it's their problem not yours. That is a FUNCTIONAL bench, not a fine, museum quality piece of furniture. Well done - from a retired woodworker.
The crappy guard material gives it a quite fancy look! 😍
Thank you Quinn!
22:38 My wife and I are BBC Father Brown Mystery fans…….she’s sure those screens are for Confessionals….and copyright free😎
Speaking as one of those woodworkers who's been the recipient of much good-natured Quinn shade over the years: at the point when I become as good a machinist as you (which ain't never gonna happen) then I'll have the basis for tossing darts at your woodworking skills.😀
I have a couple vintage belt-driven shop tools: a scroll-saw and a lathe. Both are for dense cellulose-based organic material machining. My motors are both gravity tensioned. I do get a slight motor bounce but nothing dramatic. I had thought of making a tensioner system but I’ve had the same belts for nearly 30 years so I think I’m ok. 😂
My boys (6 and 8) have recently discovered inspector gadget and loved the reference. Excellent video as always!
ManKind have been getting by with "Not Terrible" since the first two. Not Terrible ain't half bad. I have several projects that have been serving me for years that qualify as Not Terrible.
I used to make custom cabinets. So, I had more than one chisel, but they were rarely as sharp as they should have been. :)
I used the Clover instead of the panels on flat panel cabinet doors in places like pantries and root bins. Just a decorative way to ad air flow to certain cabinets.
Nice job Quinn. Just for future reference, Multicore make an excellent Aluminium solder wire, Alusol 45D Tin Lead Silver, 100gram roll and cheap!
the live filling of that o-ring groove had my spine all tingling.. glad all was well..
I follow both machinists and woodworkers on youtube, and I really enjoyed you crossing the streams for a moment there :)
Nice Canadian flex with the Robinson screws
This is pretty much like an industrial sewing machine setup. They also have rubber mounts on the motor, and machine head.
You made me lol with the "Not Terrible " flourish.
That fanfare of victory, um, of "not terrible" was well earned. That mesh stuff looks nasty indeed.
If the legs are hollow fill them with dry sand or dry concrete (or both!). I have found that can really help with resonance in benches.
I'll often use a polyurethane glue or epoxy with inserts if I think I need max holding power. Might be belt-and-suspenders but it gives me a little insurance
I'm going to miss this series.
It looks great. I was very surprised that the build for the belt guard went so smoothly. That stuff is for HVAC decorative grates.
I love the transmission jack!
Hi Quinn. FYI, a rule of thumb with o rings is: The cross section should be compressed by 25% and the groove volume should be filled by about 60-70% (90% is the absolute maximum). These numbers apply for a typical o ring seal which is rated for 100ish bar, so they can be tweaked for less demanding applications. And a 15-30 deg lead in chamfer is generally needed to guide the o ring into the bore. In case you wanted to do more math… 🙃
Great outcome Quinn, that guard is a work of art, to be fair. If it keeps the pinkies attached, mission accomplished! ✌🇦🇺
I have used that brass stuff to make a decorative cover with a wood top and that brass on the sides for a cover in apartments here in Chicago in old buildings with radiators for their heat source....
Hey Quinn! Love the installation, and I expect it will see lots of use. Regarding your belt guard, in situations where soldering/brazing doesn't work, and there isn't enough space for a rivet, a small spot welder can be a lifesaver. I bought a cheapie for like $70 a few years ago and it's been a helpful problem solver. (Not the bare red PCB one -- mine's in an extruded aluminum housing.) If something causes that guard to go flying apart, it might be something to look at.
A small drill in each corner of the slot to transfer the corner marks to the other side works really well too
Alright, been watching for a few years now. Love the channel. But you just made me an even bigger fan by using one of my favorite words: skookum!
A plunge router and a decent bit would have made short work of cutting that slot in the worktop.
IMHO the powered wood router is about as close to "machining" as most of us woodworkers get. Just like the metalheads out there, we have to be concerned about "feeds and speeds", chip clearance, depth of cut on each pass, selecting the right sized tool for the job, and keeping it cool. Fortunately most woodworking only requires tolerances of 1/32" or so!
Just a note to say how much I appreciate your channel, the wit and charm, to say nothing of the skill, tenacity, and creativity of its host!
A very fine job executed and explained very well. No mockery or teasing from me, the operations were efficacious and looked decent. I kind of liked the vaguely "steampunk" vibe and there is nothing better than having your tools in easy to use set-ups!
Love your videos Quinn, now if only you had some sort of reciprocating file machine and a coarse file to clean up the slot in the wooden top... oh wait a moment.😄
Excellent presentation, Thanks
Thanks. I’m mostly an armchair machinist and definitely not a fine woodworker, but I do a lot of the stuff you show here, and I learned some improvements in my methods.
Dang, that is a lot of safety!!! Nicely done!
Excellent job Quinn,great bit of innovation along the way.👍👍
Those cheap Chinese Brake/Roller/Press combos are great if you don't push them too far! We have one at the London Hackspace, and I've used it lots. Someone came along and tried to bend 2mm steel, and one of the drop links snapped! I was able to TIG braze it back together, and it still works just fine.
Nicely done and a very fun video.
FYI, there is this stuff called Alumiweld that "solders" aluminum with a propane torch. I have used it many times and I think Home Depot sells it. I get mine on the Internet from the manufacturer.
The sheet stock is radiator screening. It is used to ventilate radiator covers for steam radiators.
Quinn The Beltguard specially the long Strip.. admit it was planned that Way !😉That "strange" Design is just a cool Feature
Woohoo! More Blondihacks :)
Awesome job. Loved the video, and the chisel.
Thanks Quinn
As a beginning woodworker, your achievement of "Not Terrible" is really setting a high bar for the less precision-oriented among us...
You need a cover box for the die filer to keep dust out of it when it's not used. And as a platform on which to pile assorted pieces of material and small equipment.
That's why an old pillow case is better; it doesn't get piled on.
I've used that aluminum grate sheet metal that Home Depot sells in place of a panel in a frame & panel cabinet door. In short it is decoration, but it just happens to be stored by other sheet metal goods.
Nice. I have seen such punched stock used for stuff like HVAC vent and radiator covers.
Home Depot uses it as Radiator covers (old home steam boilers) decorative and decorators love using it to try to hide the radiators. YOU have managed to make it not terrible....
Superb work, Quinn. It has been a pleasure to follow this particular project. Greetings from Northern Ireland.
Very nicely done Quinn. Can't wait to see what those other machines are going to be. Cheers Nobby
27:17 "Collapsing pile of crap" - Can relate. lol
Nice bench work.
Love the belt guard!
There's a saying in woodworking, why would you buy furniture when you can make it yourself for twice the cost.
Once again you've proven your multi talent abilities! Great job mounting that Die Filer!
Thx for the update on the oil.
When drilling holes in wood drilling from both sides helps with tear out drill till the guide point come through then flip piece over drill from other side
I’ve used cheap Harbor Freight wheeled stands for all my machines. They work great!
Super awesomely outstandingly Not Terrible! You continue to inspire and amaze us all.