Thanos always have been a mutant of his race if they want to change that because of MCU they shouldn't leave him as he is and forget that Eternals are robots BS
If that's the direction they go in its gonna circle back to Kitt Harrington's question. "Why didn't the Eternals help when Thanos (mutant with deviant gene) invaded."
I figured it was the X gene was activated by the cascade of energy from the stones being used three times on Earth. Twice to affect the whole universe.
I hate this idea. It pretty much means that Profesor X has to learn all about himself and mutants from scratch. Magneto has to make up his mind about humans and start his movement. It takes away the rich history of Wolverine. It removes so many storypoints they could tall in the MCU. I still think it's better to go with a story where they've been around for ages. And at some point the X-men had to go into hiding and Professor X had to whipe Mutants from everyones memory or something. And so powered people like Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Ms Marvel are Mutants without knowing it. But now they start to come back out of hiding slowly and return to the world. That leavesa rich history for them to explore. But it also allows the MCU to do the plotline where the Government seems a Mutant Problem. And you still have an experienced Professor X and Magneto take up the fight in their own way etc. Having them just all of a sudden pop up in 2025 and have to start from scratch is the worst idea i can imagine for the MCU.
@@MonkeyPowerkey Ok, but then mutants have to live a lot longer than humans. Or you have to take away Magneto’s holocaust experiences. We’ve seen how old Isaiah Bradley is already.
@@kylehagenbuch9373 Magneto is already pretty damn fit for his age as is. I mean, they put a muscle sute on Ian McKellen to buff him up. So add in a few extra years. Freeze him. Time travel, Multiverse what ever. It's better to have a spry 90 year old Magneto and a Charles Xavier that's still up and rolling despite his age than to have them all just pop up and have powers and be noobs. The best part about Xavier and Magneto is the fact that they are both older and experienced. There's history. And you still absolutely need to keep the Holocaust element of Magneto's story. So unless they totaly disregard his backround, he would have to be old. Don't the comics also run sort of paralel to current day? So he's already ancient. At some point they're just gonna have to find plot reasons to have them be young for their age. Maybe the mutant gene in the MCU makes all of them age slower? Maybe Magneto's power just allowes him to slow his aging? Maybe Charles Xavier was experimented on at some point? There's a ton of backstory you could add. All of wich is better than ''And then we just had powers one day''.
I know. He was Born with a different Gene, the deviant Gene. So he always was a Mutant. Thats not new. Thats old news. He is a mutated Deviant/Eternal Hybrid
I think it is different in Mickey Mouse Marvel. The Eternals are kinda like androids or replicants now so they don’t have genes really as far as the movie explained and Deviant’s were genetically engineered completely independently. Why did they change this? Because phase 4 I guess? So it is likely mutants will get a different origin as well.
You think you could do individual videos on your prediction of future MCU projects? I think hearing your theory and expectation for those projects would be interesting and will hold up until we get trailers.
I really wish they would have stayed with the original story of eternals and mutation because it was so thought out.. now it seems to all over the place
yea for a while now I've been saying that to myself and I think this is the result of them always steering away from the source material in the comics. There was always some adaption or twist with the movies so now after several movies of doing that, nothing makes sense or the movies all have conflicting theories-reasons-truths. The multiverse doesn't help, because every director has their own vision of it. They should have a team in place to check for consistencies within the plots of their movies, it isn't so hard to make sure everything makes sense if you're trying to have movies forever and Phase 6+. Prime example of plots not running consistent is WandaVision and M.o.M.
@@mr.clymate7489 What’s so conflicting about Wandavision and M.O.M.? If you see any of the director interviews they all say Kevin Feige over sees it all so I’m a bit confused. It’s not like DC where they don’t have a Kevin Feige lookin over all the stories and plot lines.
What if... they do.. That instead (since this is the mcu) they say Kang/He Who Remains slid somewhere in time and kept the X gene from awakening in humans. But elsewhere say earth 838 that’s exactly how mutants came about. Idk it’s hard trying to honor the source material but you didn’t always have the rights to all the characters when you started the mcu. How do you explain why mutants havent been around for so long without saying “we just didn’t have the rights but we trying” idk I think the best way to do is to have Deadpool break that 4th wall and just say to the audience “it’s because we didn’t have the rights this is so convoluted”😂
If the deviant genes were largely dormant, they could've been activated by the radiation given off during the snaps, or maybe the snaps combined with the emergence could've provided what was necessary. Anyway, I can totally see Thanos being the mutant we didn't know was considered to be a mutant in the MCU.
In the comics, Thanos is an Eternal, and one from a very important bloodline: His father, Al'ars, was the son of Kronos, who ruled the Eternals of Earth following a civil war that divided the original colony. Following his father's death, Al'ars traveled the universe as the Mentor.
That's why I've been confused about thanos and everything recently. Because i could've swore thanos was a mutant eternal and his mutation was part deviant.
Shoot I always thought that mutants existed on other worlds since I learned of the celestials involvement with Earth. I figured it was implied at that point. I just didn’t know why they hadn’t explored that further.
Narratively that would be really cool and smart. It would add another layer of distrust, fear and prejudice that others have against Mutants. Being "deviant", of deviants, playing into that superior, next step in evolution thing. I really like this idea. Its just explaining the initial spread of "mutant beings". Meaning, how does the population get started in the first place, the actual first mutants and the reason(s) why this mutant, deviant gene only manifests in certain generations of offspring, era after era.
My mind will explode when it's revealed that Apocalypse and the Externals were the Celestials intended result of the Earth experiment, and that Apocalypse is more powerful than Uranos.
In comics both Eros and Starfox where created through natural means aka their parents boinged in a bed together, what was an experiment by their father 2 see what happens,as that wasn't a normal thing for Eternals. They were babies and grew up, what was partly reason why Thanos had the Deviant gene.
No. Sometimes Rob’s theories are really overboard. We don’t know just how different (MCU) Thanos is cause we really haven’t seen his bloodline or others on Titan. Can’t know unless we have more information…
Rob what do you think about this: ...ok, so here's the thing. A lot of people complained that Eternals didn't tie in well with the rest of the MCU and everyone is additionally complaining that no one is talking about THE GIANT HEAD STICKING OUT OF THE EARTH. I think it never happened. At least not in the main MCU universe. I think it's a completely separate universe and not only that, but Feige and crew are going to setup up a few movies in either one or multiple universes leading up to the avengers Kang dynasty/ secret wars. I think they are establishing characters to care about and then when the avengers movies come it's going to be a multiversal war between them and either one or both universes get destroyed. Now, I think destroying or resetting the main 616 universe is what they'll go for so they can neatly wrap up the accumulated titles and characters AND start afresh. If you wondering how they are going to top the last avengers movies I think secret wars will end with the destruction of the entire mcu, paving way for a new universe time-line or a reset (but with more potential like the x-men) I think Eternals was the first movie based entirely outside thr main mcu but won't be the last. Probably fantastic 4 will be as well.
Never had the thought of the Eternals being in a different Universe, but I did have the fleeting thought of Fantastic Four being set in a different one.
I think it's going to be what's revealed. Would make the sequel somewhat compelling and understandable. Also leave room to allow us to witness the destruction of an entire planet or hopefully universe
I had this theory clanging around in my head for some time and this rob makes more sense now that you've put it out there. i really hope KF actually does this going forward. Edit: ROB!! You may be exactly right! Recall if you will from miss marvel, her great grand mother was from a different dimension right? okay so she was able to have a baby despite her genetic makeup. miss marvel's great grandmother is another deviant gene person that was spawned from the earlier experiments from the celestials. that would allow her to as well manipulate the energies of her dimension as well. so fast forward to kamala, her friend says hey you have a mutation in your genome. That would imply that this occurrence is definitely of spreading amongst other generations as well. also remember her brother has yet to have kids, but who's to say his first kid won't be a mutant like kamala? I'd also wager that since he's been around her energy maybe that triggers a dormant gene in him or his wife and that child comes out with abilities thanks to kamala. The MCU has already put some of the building blocks in there. You happen to be right on top of it.
Makes pefect sense though. A deviant gene is a mutation by paradefinition, however you are speculating about lore that different writers have or may retcon as much as they want, and create bonds to mcguffins, which were right in front of us all the time.
Idk seems like they can just keep the comic origin. Like his parents couldn't have children cause they were eternals and got help with basically the power of a celestial to have children. And one of the results of them doing what they weren't suppose to was Thanos being born. And they can keep all that. And just make it that after this happened his parents decided not to have another child and therefore they adopted Eros.
I just thought that Thanos' parents (or grandparents) were made flesh, so that they could procreate, and that caused Thanos and Starfox to be born. But now that Chloe Zhao said what she said, I think that your theory is correct.
I find this interesting because I still consider Thanos as an Eternal instead of a Mutant. Although this does makes sense because Mutation was caused by the genetic manipulation by the Celestials. In other words, The Celestials gave birth to the Mutant X Gene in the comics. This will be different in the MCU as Excess Deviation.
I like your theories. It's like talking comic shop with my friends. Has anyone considered that the robot origin of the Eternals is a lie. The Celestials are not a credible source, thier motives are very self serving so to me they would lie about anything. In the comics the Eternals, Deviants, and Mutants have always been associated with each other as they were all created by the Celestials. There is no reason for a Deviant and a Human to touch ugliest to create Mutants, the Celestials already created them. Marvel Comics really is in need of writers that read old school pre 90s comics.
i Think they are more or less Bio-organic creations, the "robot" aspect stems from the fact that they were constructed rather than born, similar to how even human anatomy is basically a machine,
I don't know with the cross breeding, however, the idea that Thanos wanted to halt or cut the population numbers because excessive population is what activates the mutant/deviant genes makes sense to me
They can also retroactively say that Thanos' excess deviation is what allowed him to use all the Infinity Stones with minimal damage to himself considering the energy he commanded.
I wonder if the rising of Tiamat on Earth is the reason that the X-Gene is activating worldwide. Like that would explain why it didn't activate until Eternals.
I mean, he would be a mutant Eternal because of the deviant gene; however, in the comics, his mother gave physical birth to him. So I'm not so sure about him being a robot, etc. Maybe the MCU may make that correlation.
I nerd the Robcorps advise , who would you say is strong superhero I'm all of comics? Not your favorite superhero but the strongest as in physical might
Before I even start watching this, at minimum Thanos is an alien. The eternals at minimum are alien. So no, Thanos isn’t a mutant. To quote Master mold, “That is not logical. Mutants ARE human.”
One thing I don’t understand w/ people from other planets. Are the really strong ones w/ powers mutants or mutates(accd, lab ex, etc)? (Ex. Ronan, Gladiator, ebony maw)
Not necessarily. Was the child born with the X-gene? Then they are a mutant. Whether they are pure mutant or hybrid is secondary. ( A hybrid is like Namor, two species coming together to have a child) Thanos is a mutant.
The blue arm that the bangle was removed from in the temple in Ms Marvel...whenever that being came to earth, I bet thats when mutants were introduced to humans.
Definitely all the cosmic energy that two snaps let off probably accelerated their mutations Kamala Khan, is what I don't understand..if she had this hidden mutation in her genes why does she need the bangle? They opened the mutant door in DS2-MOM showing Xavier on 898 or w.e. I just feel there's no more suspense. We know there's a wolverine out there we know, the X-Men exist. They might not be formed yet but the characters are around. Somewhere. MCU for a lot of people has been lackluster, they need a banger.Everyone wants F4 and they're dragging it out til phase 6. I just hope the next big movie they go all out and show us some heavy hitters. I for one have liked every single movie or show they've come out with up to date. As a kid reading comics never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd ever get to see my heroes in live action. And have it actually look visually mind blowing. So as a fan I am never disappointed because when I was a kid I saw Superman clearly dangling from wires and thought that was the height of what we'd get and watching Superman at 8 years old in 96. I thought were hopeless. Only heroes that don't fly is what I thought. I love living in this time where we get to see these movies that to me, are all mind blowing. When they deviate from the comics, to me, it's a good thing. Let's be honest.Comics can do whatever they want but we can't expect all these actors to sign 30 year contracts and be let's say, iron man forever. Rdj got old and now we have to move on. People die. Rip. Tchalla Boseman the king. There's many factors that play into why things aren't perfect for everyone. For example; T-L&T to me wasn't as good as I expected. I felt taika needed to add a joke or insert himself into every part of the movie. His success with Ragnarok and other movies must've elevated his ego x 1000, because him getting more screen time than gorr was the oddly was the funniest joke on us in the worst way. Again, I would never bash the movie because Chris Odinson you can tell fucking loves being Thor and if he felt responsible for all the bad press about the movie, that would suck ass. At least to me.I have no idea what it takes to make a movie but I know the script and plot is not something Thor can help much. I was excited for Gorr but it was a movie about Thor finally finding purpose and to me, that was great. In my humble opinion people just need to relax and enjoy the ride. trust in the feig. The fact that you could go back to phase one and still find Easter eggs for things that happened later on is so awesome. Everyone criticizing so harshly is beyond me. They're building towards the next big thing. Not every movie is going to be infinity war and endgame. I'm rambling but I been thinking about this for some time now seeing all the hate. People calling the Disney shows trash, the only "good movie" was no way home since endgame. We are eventually going to get the mcu's version of battle world for phase 6. And if they're going to do it right, they already are by pumping out new heroes and anti heros on Disney plus. Yes maybe the shows aren't up to par with your expectations but they have a lot of characters to introduce and we're basically getting something mcu related every month in theaters or Disney+ and we see a new hero or antihero in each series or movie. What they're building towards is going to be epic and I cannot wait. If you made it this far, here, have this 🏆 my gift to you for reading my rambling!
The Skrulls are deviants as well. This could be used to explain how an entire planet's population came to be mutated. And why the skrulls and Thanos have that trademark chin... This could all be rolled up nicely into secret invasion
LOL, called it rob reconfirming what most of us know about from eternals / xmen issues months ago roughly when the eternals was still in theaters.. It's a shame, he only pursues current hype instead of the comics them selves like he used to 😂🤣
I don’t think that the principle “for every rule, there is an exception to that rule” is true. The existence of rules do not necessitate the existence of exceptions
This is off topic and crazy But I think Eros should have been the villain for Love and Thunder They killed his brother after all And Thor is in space with GOTG Just a weird idea 😋😋😋
If they make this Association that Thanos was a Mutant public to the people of earth it would make sense that everyone would be wary of them compared to other Enhanced people with powers
I still prefer the Earth X Universe X explanation that Thanos (and Eros) is half eternal half skrull. The Skrulls themselves are the Deviants of their own race as the other types of skrulls were wiped out. Having said that, there are mutants within the Skrull Population too as seen in the x-men comics years ago circa 1999
I guess i miss understood but I could have sworn it was already established in the comics that thanos was a mutant and was almost killed for it at birth
this theory is not wrong Rob, but we must take into consideration that the Deviants, as they are represented in Eternals, only manage to evolve and become sentient beings when they consume Eternals, like Kro's case. So they would have to do some kind of retcon to imply that some Deviant became intelligent, had a relationship with a human, and hence there is the possibility of "excess deviation" in the form of a mutant gene, both in the earth as in Titan. That theory needs more work
its makes sense but i don't think they're even gonna delve into thanos origins now thats past i think its not gonna go that in depth to make it palatable to the non comic reader
One of the laws of evolution is that humans evolve from sea creatures, and guess what crawled out of the water and tried to attack the native on the beach?
Isn't it the Skrulls where the Deviant version won out over the standard version of their race? My real question though is that if there are Deviant Skrulls then does that mean there are Celestial Skrulls? And the same is true for any other race. Are there Deviant and Celestial versions of every race in the universe?
This is interesting. Marvel likes to make things very simple to understand for the average movie goer. If they can find a way to simplify it, I could see this happening. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Since all Eternals and Deviants are synthetic, how would they procreate in any way shape or form? From what I've seen in Eternals, it doesn't seem to be possible.
Possibly, at least for the origins of Mutants, however the MCU is going to be following Hickman because I highly doubt Hickman would have accepted a long term job running the X Office having Kevin Fegie breathing down his neck.
In the MCU, what if mutants & inhumans are the same thing. Inhumans were originally mutants on Earth, who saw the way ancient civilization reacted to them having powers, so they just left. Their mutant DNA & phsyiology was altered to adapt & adjust to the harsh conditions of space.
Aren't skrulls deviants? If so secret wars could be how the deviant gene gets in the human population and why it didnt start until now. Skrulls didnt get there until 94 or whatever year and it just takes time to activate.
Sounds like Marvel is introducing Excess Deviation now so that the MCU can use that to tie the X-Men to the Eternals in a desperate attempt to make the Eternals relevant. 🙄
Him having the Deviant gene already made him a mutant amongst the Eternals, even in the comics
yeah, they're going that route in the current AXE. Mutants are Deviants
Exactly, Rob's just catering to all his casual fans.
@@Tribrid-zv3nq they are trying to retcon it to be that way. We have to wait to see if other authors run with it
Thanos always have been a mutant of his race if they want to change that because of MCU they shouldn't leave him as he is and forget that Eternals are robots BS
@@Tribrid-zv3nq Are you not reading AXE Judgement day? that's literally the premise of the comic
If that's the direction they go in its gonna circle back to Kitt Harrington's question. "Why didn't the Eternals help when Thanos (mutant with deviant gene) invaded."
Congrats dude 😆
“Rob keeps figuring it out, what are we gonna do now?” - MCU
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I figured it was the X gene was activated by the cascade of energy from the stones being used three times on Earth. Twice to affect the whole universe.
I hate this idea. It pretty much means that Profesor X has to learn all about himself and mutants from scratch. Magneto has to make up his mind about humans and start his movement. It takes away the rich history of Wolverine. It removes so many storypoints they could tall in the MCU. I still think it's better to go with a story where they've been around for ages. And at some point the X-men had to go into hiding and Professor X had to whipe Mutants from everyones memory or something. And so powered people like Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver and Ms Marvel are Mutants without knowing it. But now they start to come back out of hiding slowly and return to the world. That leavesa rich history for them to explore. But it also allows the MCU to do the plotline where the Government seems a Mutant Problem. And you still have an experienced Professor X and Magneto take up the fight in their own way etc. Having them just all of a sudden pop up in 2025 and have to start from scratch is the worst idea i can imagine for the MCU.
@@MonkeyPowerkey Ok, but then mutants have to live a lot longer than humans. Or you have to take away Magneto’s holocaust experiences. We’ve seen how old Isaiah Bradley is already.
@@kylehagenbuch9373 Magneto is already pretty damn fit for his age as is. I mean, they put a muscle sute on Ian McKellen to buff him up. So add in a few extra years. Freeze him. Time travel, Multiverse what ever. It's better to have a spry 90 year old Magneto and a Charles Xavier that's still up and rolling despite his age than to have them all just pop up and have powers and be noobs. The best part about Xavier and Magneto is the fact that they are both older and experienced. There's history. And you still absolutely need to keep the Holocaust element of Magneto's story. So unless they totaly disregard his backround, he would have to be old. Don't the comics also run sort of paralel to current day? So he's already ancient. At some point they're just gonna have to find plot reasons to have them be young for their age. Maybe the mutant gene in the MCU makes all of them age slower? Maybe Magneto's power just allowes him to slow his aging? Maybe Charles Xavier was experimented on at some point? There's a ton of backstory you could add. All of wich is better than ''And then we just had powers one day''.
I know. He was Born with a different Gene, the deviant Gene. So he always was a Mutant. Thats not new. Thats old news. He is a mutated Deviant/Eternal Hybrid
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He’s a different mutant now than before lol
I was thinking the same thing lol
Nothing new has contradicted it.
I think it is different in Mickey Mouse Marvel. The Eternals are kinda like androids or replicants now so they don’t have genes really as far as the movie explained and Deviant’s were genetically engineered completely independently. Why did they change this? Because phase 4 I guess?
So it is likely mutants will get a different origin as well.
Exactly, Rob, come on man
You think you could do individual videos on your prediction of future MCU projects? I think hearing your theory and expectation for those projects would be interesting and will hold up until we get trailers.
Always liked your theories man. Always keeps me hyped up for the x men or eternals 2
I really wish they would have stayed with the original story of eternals and mutation because it was so thought out.. now it seems to all over the place
yea for a while now I've been saying that to myself and I think this is the result of them always steering away from the source material in the comics. There was always some adaption or twist with the movies so now after several movies of doing that, nothing makes sense or the movies all have conflicting theories-reasons-truths. The multiverse doesn't help, because every director has their own vision of it.
They should have a team in place to check for consistencies within the plots of their movies, it isn't so hard to make sure everything makes sense if you're trying to have movies forever and Phase 6+.
Prime example of plots not running consistent is WandaVision and M.o.M.
Let’s see how they land it
@@mr.clymate7489 What’s so conflicting about Wandavision and M.O.M.? If you see any of the director interviews they all say Kevin Feige over sees it all so I’m a bit confused. It’s not like DC where they don’t have a Kevin Feige lookin over all the stories and plot lines.
What if... they do.. That instead (since this is the mcu) they say Kang/He Who Remains slid somewhere in time and kept the X gene from awakening in humans. But elsewhere say earth 838 that’s exactly how mutants came about. Idk it’s hard trying to honor the source material but you didn’t always have the rights to all the characters when you started the mcu. How do you explain why mutants havent been around for so long without saying “we just didn’t have the rights but we trying” idk I think the best way to do is to have Deadpool break that 4th wall and just say to the audience “it’s because we didn’t have the rights this is so convoluted”😂
@@somerandom414 yea I definitely agree a retcon is definitely needed hopefully Kang and other time travelers make the necessary changes / explanation
Dude, you have the best theories!
If the deviant genes were largely dormant, they could've been activated by the radiation given off during the snaps, or maybe the snaps combined with the emergence could've provided what was necessary. Anyway, I can totally see Thanos being the mutant we didn't know was considered to be a mutant in the MCU.
Man your theories are something
In the comics, Thanos is an Eternal, and one from a very important bloodline: His father, Al'ars, was the son of Kronos, who ruled the Eternals of Earth following a civil war that divided the original colony. Following his father's death, Al'ars traveled the universe as the Mentor.
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That's why I've been confused about thanos and everything recently. Because i could've swore thanos was a mutant eternal and his mutation was part deviant.
I have a theory that the multitude of Villains we have seen "die" with a flash of colored magic, are in that moment, being scooped up by the Beyonder.
Very good idea. Maybe the infinity stones being used so many times on Earth activated said genes within the human populace. Great vid
For the MCU this tracks well..but there is also the factor of gods now too..Demigods and alien hybrids that could cause mutants
Shoot I always thought that mutants existed on other worlds since I learned of the celestials involvement with Earth. I figured it was implied at that point. I just didn’t know why they hadn’t explored that further.
* Deviant grabs Thena * Rob: oh man, I've read enough comics to see where this is going
Narratively that would be really cool and smart. It would add another layer of distrust, fear and prejudice that others have against Mutants. Being "deviant", of deviants, playing into that superior, next step in evolution thing.
I really like this idea. Its just explaining the initial spread of "mutant beings". Meaning, how does the population get started in the first place, the actual first mutants and the reason(s) why this mutant, deviant gene only manifests in certain generations of offspring, era after era.
My mind will explode when it's revealed that Apocalypse and the Externals were the Celestials intended result of the Earth experiment, and that Apocalypse is more powerful than Uranos.
In comics both Eros and Starfox where created through natural means aka their parents boinged in a bed together, what was an experiment by their father 2 see what happens,as that wasn't a normal thing for Eternals. They were babies and grew up, what was partly reason why Thanos had the Deviant gene.
If this is the case, can we skip the whole backlash followed by slow acceptance thing and just go with it?
...he's both. Otherwise, that's like saying Namor is an Atlantean instead of a mutant when, in reality, he's both.
No. Sometimes Rob’s theories are really overboard. We don’t know just how different (MCU) Thanos is cause we really haven’t seen his bloodline or others on Titan. Can’t know unless we have more information…
Seems like a great way to introduce them into the MCU
Rob what do you think about this:
...ok, so here's the thing. A lot of people complained that Eternals didn't tie in well with the rest of the MCU and everyone is additionally complaining that no one is talking about THE GIANT HEAD STICKING OUT OF THE EARTH.
I think it never happened. At least not in the main MCU universe. I think it's a completely separate universe and not only that, but Feige and crew are going to setup up a few movies in either one or multiple universes leading up to the avengers Kang dynasty/ secret wars. I think they are establishing characters to care about and then when the avengers movies come it's going to be a multiversal war between them and either one or both universes get destroyed.
Now, I think destroying or resetting the main 616 universe is what they'll go for so they can neatly wrap up the accumulated titles and characters AND start afresh.
If you wondering how they are going to top the last avengers movies I think secret wars will end with the destruction of the entire mcu, paving way for a new universe time-line or a reset (but with more potential like the x-men)
I think Eternals was the first movie based entirely outside thr main mcu but won't be the last. Probably fantastic 4 will be as well.
Never had the thought of the Eternals being in a different Universe, but I did have the fleeting thought of Fantastic Four being set in a different one.
I think it's going to be what's revealed. Would make the sequel somewhat compelling and understandable. Also leave room to allow us to witness the destruction of an entire planet or hopefully universe
Finally someone thinking smart.
I don’t believe that the Eternals can fit in the main MCU at all.
@@Dave102693 fingers crossed that's the direction they take...
@ 2:10 A Deviant banged a human and had an offspring by the name of oh I don't know Apocalypse???? Duhn-duhn-duuuuuuuhn! Epic!
I had this theory clanging around in my head for some time and this rob makes more sense now that you've put it out there. i really hope KF actually does this going forward.
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ROB!! You may be exactly right! Recall if you will from miss marvel, her great grand mother was from a different dimension right? okay so she was able to have a baby despite her genetic makeup. miss marvel's great grandmother is another deviant gene person that was spawned from the earlier experiments from the celestials. that would allow her to as well manipulate the energies of her dimension as well. so fast forward to kamala, her friend says hey you have a mutation in your genome. That would imply that this occurrence is definitely of spreading amongst other generations as well. also remember her brother has yet to have kids, but who's to say his first kid won't be a mutant like kamala? I'd also wager that since he's been around her energy maybe that triggers a dormant gene in him or his wife and that child comes out with abilities thanks to kamala. The MCU has already put some of the building blocks in there. You happen to be right on top of it.
Erros is an Eternal and is announced as his brother….
Good stuff! Love the speculation 👏🏾 Hope you are right 🤞🏾
Great theory !!!!
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Rob, you VERY often cite the idea that the MCU makes their explanations simple. This is too complex for the MCU. It just doesn't pass the smell test.
he needs to make content. when this doesn't stick he will make up another video explaining why Marvel studios messed up......his theory.
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Makes pefect sense though. A deviant gene is a mutation by paradefinition, however you are speculating about lore that different writers have or may retcon as much as they want, and create bonds to mcguffins, which were right in front of us all the time.
There's always one of you "it's too complex" in every comment section
For YOU its too complex lol, the MCU was built on easter eggs, cameos, and foreshadowing, this is perfect
Idk seems like they can just keep the comic origin. Like his parents couldn't have children cause they were eternals and got help with basically the power of a celestial to have children. And one of the results of them doing what they weren't suppose to was Thanos being born. And they can keep all that. And just make it that after this happened his parents decided not to have another child and therefore they adopted Eros.
I just thought that Thanos' parents (or grandparents) were made flesh, so that they could procreate, and that caused Thanos and Starfox to be born. But now that Chloe Zhao said what she said, I think that your theory is correct.
So glad you made this video! I always viewed Thanos as a kind of space mutant. Even if it wasn’t always the case , it’s what makes sense to me.
I find this interesting because I still consider Thanos as an Eternal instead of a Mutant. Although this does makes sense because Mutation was caused by the genetic manipulation by the Celestials. In other words, The Celestials gave birth to the Mutant X Gene in the comics. This will be different in the MCU as Excess Deviation.
This is 🔥🔥🔥
I do believe that the mutants aren't just on earth... technically writing something on that.xD
I like your theories. It's like talking comic shop with my friends. Has anyone considered that the robot origin of the Eternals is a lie. The Celestials are not a credible source, thier motives are very self serving so to me they would lie about anything. In the comics the Eternals, Deviants, and Mutants have always been associated with each other as they were all created by the Celestials. There is no reason for a Deviant and a Human to touch ugliest to create Mutants, the Celestials already created them. Marvel Comics really is in need of writers that read old school pre 90s comics.
Both the Celestials and Eternals are some of the worst unreliable narrators.
i Think they are more or less Bio-organic creations, the "robot" aspect stems from the fact that they were constructed rather than born, similar to how even human anatomy is basically a machine,
I got a news flash for ya
We ourselves are Robots , we dont have a cosmic conciousness
I love how you teach about comics, and you wrek our minds rethinking the norm.
I don't know with the cross breeding, however, the idea that Thanos wanted to halt or cut the population numbers because excessive population is what activates the mutant/deviant genes makes sense to me
So after 60+ yrs of Stan and Jack building this beloved universe, everything is changing because of movies!!!!
They can also retroactively say that Thanos' excess deviation is what allowed him to use all the Infinity Stones with minimal damage to himself considering the energy he commanded.
Hulk suffered some degree of damage too, and I’d wager Professor was slightly weaker than Thanos yet both only had a damaged arm.
@@SuperShanko Remember, Thanos used it Twice!
I wonder if the rising of Tiamat on Earth is the reason that the X-Gene is activating worldwide. Like that would explain why it didn't activate until Eternals.
Can someone please tell me if Rob is still doing the rob corp rings and how and where to get one from comics explained. Please reply and assist
If you consider your what if videos, you could do a fanfiction of what if Dr. Doom built the Centinals
Well now we need a thanos origin story
I've always thought that mutants are in all species since I was a kid
Man... if we get Juggernaut. I just want them to skip right to "Damage Control" Cain Marko.
He's written as an antihero very well.
Thanos' mutant ability would be like Sylars from Heroes. Just understanding how everything is supposed to work.
Boy some of y'all actually get mad at theory crafting...
It's movie, about a comic.
*Relax.*
Great idea
I like this theory!
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I mean, he would be a mutant Eternal because of the deviant gene; however, in the comics, his mother gave physical birth to him. So I'm not so sure about him being a robot, etc. Maybe the MCU may make that correlation.
I nerd the Robcorps advise , who would you say is strong superhero I'm all of comics? Not your favorite superhero but the strongest as in physical might
Before I even start watching this, at minimum Thanos is an alien. The eternals at minimum are alien. So no, Thanos isn’t a mutant. To quote Master mold, “That is not logical. Mutants ARE human.”
One thing I don’t understand w/ people from other planets. Are the really strong ones w/ powers mutants or mutates(accd, lab ex, etc)?
(Ex. Ronan, Gladiator, ebony maw)
If Marvel trying to say Thanos is a mutant then they don't know what they talking about. The mutant gene and celestial gene are two different things.
...Next, he's apocalypse's brother...lame...but maybe the deviant gene coincides with the x-gene...
The mutant term is confusing especially if it need to depends on different perspective
Not necessarily. Was the child born with the X-gene? Then they are a mutant. Whether they are pure mutant or hybrid is secondary. ( A hybrid is like Namor, two species coming together to have a child) Thanos is a mutant.
The blue arm that the bangle was removed from in the temple in Ms Marvel...whenever that being came to earth, I bet thats when mutants were introduced to humans.
i love watching getting high and watching shit like this and been doing it for years 🤣
When you have time could you please do a video on the gentleman ghost character from DC comics.
Definitely all the cosmic energy that two snaps let off probably accelerated their mutations Kamala Khan, is what I don't understand..if she had this hidden mutation in her genes why does she need the bangle?
They opened the mutant door in DS2-MOM showing Xavier on 898 or w.e. I just feel there's no more suspense. We know there's a wolverine out there we know, the X-Men exist. They might not be formed yet but the characters are around. Somewhere. MCU for a lot of people has been lackluster, they need a banger.Everyone wants F4 and they're dragging it out til phase 6. I just hope the next big movie they go all out and show us some heavy hitters.
I for one have liked every single movie or show they've come out with up to date. As a kid reading comics never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd ever get to see my heroes in live action. And have it actually look visually mind blowing. So as a fan I am never disappointed because when I was a kid I saw Superman clearly dangling from wires and thought that was the height of what we'd get and watching Superman at 8 years old in 96. I thought were hopeless. Only heroes that don't fly is what I thought.
I love living in this time where we get to see these movies that to me, are all mind blowing. When they deviate from the comics, to me, it's a good thing.
Let's be honest.Comics can do whatever they want but we can't expect all these actors to sign 30 year contracts and be let's say, iron man forever. Rdj got old and now we have to move on. People die. Rip. Tchalla Boseman the king. There's many factors that play into why things aren't perfect for everyone.
For example; T-L&T to me wasn't as good as I expected. I felt taika needed to add a joke or insert himself into every part of the movie. His success with Ragnarok and other movies must've elevated his ego x 1000, because him getting more screen time than gorr was the oddly was the funniest joke on us in the worst way.
Again, I would never bash the movie because Chris Odinson you can tell fucking loves being Thor and if he felt responsible for all the bad press about the movie, that would suck ass. At least to me.I have no idea what it takes to make a movie but I know the script and plot is not something Thor can help much. I was excited for Gorr but it was a movie about Thor finally finding purpose and to me, that was great.
In my humble opinion people just need to relax and enjoy the ride. trust in the feig. The fact that you could go back to phase one and still find Easter eggs for things that happened later on is so awesome. Everyone criticizing so harshly is beyond me. They're building towards the next big thing. Not every movie is going to be infinity war and endgame.
I'm rambling but I been thinking about this for some time now seeing all the hate. People calling the Disney shows trash, the only "good movie" was no way home since endgame. We are eventually going to get the mcu's version of battle world for phase 6. And if they're going to do it right, they already are by pumping out new heroes and anti heros on Disney plus.
Yes maybe the shows aren't up to par with your expectations but they have a lot of characters to introduce and we're basically getting something mcu related every month in theaters or Disney+ and we see a new hero or antihero in each series or movie. What they're building towards is going to be epic and I cannot wait.
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The Skrulls are deviants as well. This could be used to explain how an entire planet's population came to be mutated. And why the skrulls and Thanos have that trademark chin... This could all be rolled up nicely into secret invasion
Red Skull calls Thanos, son of A'lars. And A'lars is an eternal. Is this something that will just be swept under the rug? lol
LOL, called it rob reconfirming what most of us know about from eternals / xmen issues months ago roughly when the eternals was still in theaters.. It's a shame, he only pursues current hype instead of the comics them selves like he used to 😂🤣
Your over complicating again. Great theory for marvel comics not for MCU. Law of Newton's flaming lazer sword. Still fun hearing this stuff
Thanos is a Titan, He born to Eternals parents, now Deviants and Eternals are from the same source. There were some Deviants that look like Eternals.
I personally don't like the idea of all Eternals being inorganic because of how convoluted it makes Thanos specifically.
I don’t think that the principle “for every rule, there is an exception to that rule” is true. The existence of rules do not necessitate the existence of exceptions
This is off topic and crazy
But I think Eros should have been the villain for Love and Thunder
They killed his brother after all
And Thor is in space with GOTG
Just a weird idea 😋😋😋
If they make this Association that Thanos was a Mutant public to the people of earth it would make sense that everyone would be wary of them compared to other Enhanced people with powers
I still prefer the Earth X Universe X explanation that Thanos (and Eros) is half eternal half skrull. The Skrulls themselves are the Deviants of their own race as the other types of skrulls were wiped out. Having said that, there are mutants within the Skrull Population too as seen in the x-men comics years ago circa 1999
Thanos having an expressive Deviant gene is not already a thing? Sounds like a mutant to me.
I guess i miss understood but I could have sworn it was already established in the comics that thanos was a mutant and was almost killed for it at birth
this theory is not wrong Rob, but we must take into consideration that the Deviants, as they are represented in Eternals, only manage to evolve and become sentient beings when they consume Eternals, like Kro's case. So they would have to do some kind of retcon to imply that some Deviant became intelligent, had a relationship with a human, and hence there is the possibility of "excess deviation" in the form of a mutant gene, both in the earth as in Titan. That theory needs more work
Thanos is gone, his mutant status is as irrelevant in the MCU as it is in the comics.
its makes sense but i don't think they're even gonna delve into thanos origins now thats past i think its not gonna go that in depth to make it palatable to the non comic reader
Screen Crush is about to be all over this
One of the laws of evolution is that humans evolve from sea creatures, and guess what crawled out of the water and tried to attack the native on the beach?
Isn't it the Skrulls where the Deviant version won out over the standard version of their race? My real question though is that if there are Deviant Skrulls then does that mean there are Celestial Skrulls? And the same is true for any other race. Are there Deviant and Celestial versions of every race in the universe?
to be honest.. I always thought it was like this. Mutants were across the galaxy and not just on earth.
Oh wow. I thought you caught this long time ago. Thanos is mutant being naturally born eternal showing deviant features
Can we admit that the MCU origin of the Eternals is far more confusing than the comic origin.?
Kevin feige somewhere trying to figure out how to take this video down
We should get a video of something that's INSIDE the realm of possibility :)
Shang-Chi was also a mutant... basically an identical situation as with Kamala. Before Kamala
This is interesting. Marvel likes to make things very simple to understand for the average movie goer. If they can find a way to simplify it, I could see this happening. Shouldn't be too difficult.
Since all Eternals and Deviants are synthetic, how would they procreate in any way shape or form? From what I've seen in Eternals, it doesn't seem to be possible.
Possibly, at least for the origins of Mutants, however the MCU is going to be following Hickman because I highly doubt Hickman would have accepted a long term job running the X Office having Kevin Fegie breathing down his neck.
Finally, yes, yes Rob, that's correct, imho
In the MCU, what if mutants & inhumans are the same thing. Inhumans were originally mutants on Earth, who saw the way ancient civilization reacted to them having powers, so they just left. Their mutant DNA & phsyiology was altered to adapt & adjust to the harsh conditions of space.
Rob, you’re wrong!😬🤣
Thanos is a Purple guy.
Aren't skrulls deviants? If so secret wars could be how the deviant gene gets in the human population and why it didnt start until now. Skrulls didnt get there until 94 or whatever year and it just takes time to activate.
It’s a great theory, but didn’t even Feige say Ms Marvel was the first mutant in the mcu?
Sounds like Marvel is introducing Excess Deviation now so that the MCU can use that to tie the X-Men to the Eternals in a desperate attempt to make the Eternals relevant. 🙄
But that means the other people that were on Gamora's planet might have been Mutants, as well.