I do have to agree that Ms Murray is kind of polite in this debate but try Dr Walter Martin debate with Ms Madalyn Murray O'hair. She is as nasty and rude as they come.
Watched several programs that Donahue had these two on and they were both so entertaining. It's a shame we don't have daytime television like this anymore instead of the drivel that is being presented these days.
and i agree with you 2000% if i was in charge of programing there would be a lot of radical changes and i believe its driven by money the tv station is a business and the owner cares only about making as much loot as possible he could care less about the quality of the program
@@charluvstrue When you or someone you love gets sick with cancer or something else, and someone who didn't like that person says, "God even the scales," do you believe her? Or do you believe that she's just using her superstition to her own ends. Hmm?
What I love about this is they are having a conversation on a subject on which they have completely different opinions on and are dissussing there opions without screaming, yelling, cursing throwing anything today somebody would be yelling, crying or getting offended and then stomping off ! This should help teach people on opposite ends of some difference how you have a conversation Without being frigging offended !!!!!!
I saw Madalyn Murray O'Hair three days before she disappeared. I was with my folks at a restaurant called Coco's in Austin, Texas, where I still live (the restaurant is no longer there). We had just given our order to the waiter, and I started checking out the people in the restaurant, as many do. We were near the front of the restaurant, and I caught sight of Jon Murray sitting at a table in the rear, although his name didn't register. When I realized who he was, I craned a little bit and saw Madalyn, then Robin. It was obvious they were deep in discussion. About twenty minutes later they got up and left. It was the only time I saw Madalyn Murray O'Hair.
Saw her at FSU Law School when she gave a talk which included a heap of iconoclastic remarks as well as tons of curse words. She was a delight. Then I saw her in New York where the president of the Humanist Society tried to upstage her. She shone through though and she was brilliant! A shame she was violently killed and dismembered by the "all loving of all God's creatures " people. An example of the darkest of people's rationalizations stemming from an inability to stand on one's two feet without an absurd mental crutch. "By your fruits ye shall be known."
I'm a spiritual man and I like keeping an open mind when it comes to religion as well as atheists points of view. This is what people used to do back in the day. People who have opposing viewpoints would sit and talk to each other. I find this charming as well as educational. I enjoy watching this very much!🙂
Charming ? She was disrespectful to the preacher and she was disgusting taking the name of Jesus in vain during their conversation . She did not have an open mind . Can't you see she tried to force her belief of atheism on everyone , including children .
Absolutely, it's a way to hear the demon's talk about their strategy that's failed and final demise they're about to encounter for eternity! I've heard them scream not to say His name because at the name of Jesus Christ they must bow! Quite amazing to hear them firsthand! It was their choice as we have ours but now they cannot retract! Destined for doom! 🛐 accept Him and be forgiven, it's His gift of salvation!✝️🙏♥️🕊️
I totally agree with her version of a romantic union. To be faithful to each other on the word of one another and when that can no longer be done then go on your different ways civilly. Remain friends and be responsible if you’ve created a child together. Celebrate it if you like but keep the legalities out of if you’re a decent human being to begin with.
Bob Jones: I beg to differ. I am a born-again, Bible-believing Christian who felt very sad at her passing. Please keep in mind something. Man-made religious ceremonies (and religion in general) are often lauded by some of the biggest hypocrites in the world. I understand and appreciate an atheist’s opinion in that regard. But I can tell you that I would not be here today if it wasn’t for the Lord Jesus Christ, and the more I learn of who He really is and what He did for all of humanity, I love and appreciate Him even more. I won’t get into the details about what was going on in my life at the time I made the decision to accept Him as my personal Savior, but religion had nothing to do with, I can tell you that.
Bob Jones : Thanks 👍. There is nothing worse than a “holier than thou” person who confesses to be a Christian. Oftentimes, the ones who judge other people on how they should live their lives have the most to hide. I’ve known a few. They are pedophiles, embezzlers, and thieves. It’s no wonder that people want nothing to do with that type of “Christianity”. I completely understand.
@@pastpresent2223 : I couldn’t agree with you more. Abortion is government sanctioned murder, and murder of the most vulnerable and precious. I hate it.
I'm glad she spoke her mind.. But, a very sad part of her life at the end. I just watched the movie on RUclips..THE MOST HATED WOMAN IN AMERICA.. You have to see it.. Sad, at the end.. but very good..MUST WATCH IT.. I wish Texas would have done something more.. May she rest in peace.. And her son and her son's daughter. ..🙏🙏🙏 AMEN...❤❤❤
That's why it's called faith, which by definition is "a firm belief in the absence of proof." Kind of like The Big Bang Theory. Some people believe in it. They have absolute faith that it's true, even though they have no concrete proof that it occurred. Which is why it's still called a "theory."
@@Po1itica11yNcorrect Correct, faith is believing without evidence. There's no proof for god, religion or anything supernatural...all are taken on faith.
I was a personal banker in downtown Austin during the 1980s and remember very well waiting on Madeline Murray O'Hare several times. Even though I'm a devout christian, I admire her intellect and devotion. I can't say that her persona it's quite different in real life than in public
As a Christian and daughter of 2 ministers, I love how they were able to speak to each other and not at each other . Whether or not I agree with her I respect her right to express her beliefs just as I want the right to express mine . Religion should not be forced but also not repressed .
Indeed God doesn't force anyone today to accept Him, He technically didn't force anyone in the Old Covenant they yielded to His will after they saw his power. Just before Jesus died on the cross, He said it is finished, that is fulfillment of the law. If folks decide to disregard the Bible then there is a consequence, if they believe and follow the Bible then that also has consequence. The Bible is absolutely clear about each consequence because of the belief.
Ashley Elysian Madelyn Murray stood up for her beliefs or rights......she gets approved. I stand up for my beliefs and rights.....I get slapped down. Why is that???
I share your sentiments exactly. How courageous was she really! I also don't consider myself an atheist but have constant inner struggle with organized religion, especially when I see how UNCHRISTIAN the so-called Christians or God-fearing people act towards others. Frankly, if we all treated each other with love, compassion and empathy; if we just observed the 10 commandments without ever putting our foot in church, this world would be a near-perfect place for everyone. Screaming God this and the other while hating people for their skin color, religion, sexual orientation, etc., doesn't make you a "good Christian." Far from it. Start with "Love thy neighbor; Thou shalt NOT kill"...
@@waimbuthia820 I'm not an atheist, but agree with you. Christians have turned being a Christian into a religion. Religions are man-made A relationship with God through Jesus Christ is not a religion.
@@pastpresent2223 Are you claiming you’re “the victim?” Which is very in vogue. Since you aren’t in touch with reality, she was slapped down plenty for being outspoken. Read a book.
Quotable Quote from Madalyn Murray O'Hair .... “An atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church. An atheist believes that deed must be done instead of prayer said. An atheist strives for involvement in life and not escape into death. He wants disease conquered, poverty vanished, war eliminated.”
@Yo Adrian semantics regarding the building or the people. “Good works” can be done by a non-believer as well as a believer. And are. One difference is, religious based “good works” diverts much of the money towards the religious organizations themselves. “Doctors without Borders” has no hidden recipients.
@Rulya Mórrigan Ard Mhacha Rulya, STFU. YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO ENGAGE WITH OTHERS. You are CLUELESS. The Catholic Church is the most corrupt regime on the planet. Period.
Really, I feel sorry for her because when she did go as you say her pain just began, it is a fearful thing to fall in the hands of a living God, be careful who and what you follow
that's the vibe i got too, lol. these 2 got it going on, ha ha ha. but all that aside, she usually was pretty awful. and the things she advocates for are awful too.
I'm an atheist and grateful there is no atheistic doctrine. Unlike Mrs.O'Hair I do believe there is a higher plane of existence after death. I appreciate the positive responses for both these participants here.
I am not an atheist, I am a antitheist. I believe religion is the single most destructive and regressive institution that has ever cursed humanity. Sincerely,
I am starting to think I may be an antitheist as well. All religions were created out of superstition and with the intent to manipulate and control others. Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, Joseph Smith, Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc. All of these men were cult leaders and they were in it for power over others.
Do you think Christians were murdered because they didn’t believe in God? How do you explain the terrible ways they died. Where was God or Jesus when they were fighting for their lives and calling for their family? Why are others saved by “God”, but babies and children are left to die horrifically.
I’ve seen this preacher man in other debates. Apparently this traveling snake oil salesman hasn’t ever experienced a tremendously confident and brutally honest strong woman like Madalyn!! She kept him up against the ropes in the corner and just intellectually plummeting him to the point he could only revert back into his rehearsed fallback responses.
23:57 - The audience member says "I'm sorry that your mistaken, because Dayton Christian School is integrated very definitely" - Dayton Christian School was still segregated at the time the show was filmed in March 1970 and DCS didn't support the idea of racial integration/desegregation until 1972, 2 years later
Am a SOBER woman. I don't give credit to "god"for getting me sober! It was myself who did!!! Hell is to SCARE small children to make them behave. How dare they say you're going to f ing HELL to children!. Raised my 4 kids without religion. They are kind,gentle human beings! WITHOUT GOD!
I love how Donohue plays the devils advocate, as I watched him at lunchtimes during my early school years. It amazed me, he would read an entire book just for that one show... and it prompted me to read at an accelerated rate... consuming books on subjects instead of stories. It taught me to "not believe" what the author is trying to make the reader do. It taught me to "believe in not believing". An atheist can be more than just refuting dieties....☮
@@Kipchumba_Chepkwony The fool(that's you) has said in his heart (that's you again) there is no God (that's you again). I can't be the fool, because I have never said that, whether I thought it, spoke it, or wrote it down. And you have no evidence I have been brainwashed. Now do ya,, Huh? Do ya.
@@pastpresent2223 I also read in a storybook, an idiot (that's you) fails to use his mind (that's you again) to realize that reality doesn't lie. Of course you have no evidence that your little imaginary friend whom you call god exist. If you did by now you would have won the Nobel Prize, $1m, and fame, everybody in the whole world would have known about you. If you see my point, you now know who the fool is *YOU*
@@pastpresent2223 : Why don't you get an education and think for yourself. Now, you people are predicting who and who does not get tortured by a god who also murdered people, children, and infants. You are sick.
She attempted to kick christianity out of America and also tried to stop children from enjoying and celebrating Christmas . I don't hate her , but i hate everything she stood for with every ounce of my being . We are not an atheist nation , and yet this woman tried to force her atheist belief on all Americans and she was a complete failure .
The irony is, according to Frank Zindler in his autobio 'Confessions of a Born Again Atheist,' Rev. Bob Harrington did appear and speak at one of Madalyn's atheist conventions after he lost his faith, became an unbeliever, then later got it back (so to speak).
Madeline, you were away ahead of your time. You made such common sense. I'm 73 years old now and I still do not believe in that magical invisible friend that these people were talking about it. You had the guts to stand up to them and that's good. I would have loved to have met you personally. I
In case you're wondering, Bob Harrington was divorced 7 years later, after having had an affair. No different than any other affair, I guess, except for his self-righteousness. O'Hair, on the other hand, was kidnapped and murdered 25 years later, along with her son and her granddaughter. The bodies were found over 5 years later.
I admire her in some ways, but I think as far as that whole matter of her death she was pretty foolish. To write a published paper piece about a known criminal to royally piss him off is not a good tactic.
@@christianresearchproject There is no god, no proof, no miracles, no help from god. No one needs religion to know right from wrong. People know something is wrong & still do it - even church people. :)
@@jerrylanglois7892 And how about Catholics torturing people. And how about all those babies and children dying while mommy & daddy pray, pray, pray. And all those diseased people that die young. No one deserves to be murdered but there you go - happens everyday to good and bad people.
I am an atheist and agree with her. Most atheists I see, dont like her militant form of atheism. I would like to debate Christian right wingers. Its ok to be aggressive with your thoughts and feelings about a particular subject.
@Watch Man Another butt-hurt man standing in judgment of another. Haha Dude, you’re the one on the very wide and very populated road to hell. Exalting himself up to God, which is what you are doing taking His seat in judgment, is what got the devil himself kicked out of heaven. You know, I think you dumbasses who claim to be holier-than-thou, “believers,” are just religious zealots who think they’re on their way to heaven. Spoiler alert, you’re not. Madelyn will go to heaven before you will. She’s being honest. You’re being arrogant, prideful and self righteous. You’re the biggest snowflake of all. Joke’s on you.
@@anitakinnear6735 : Love your answer. Christians have not even read the bible and they are telling others what will happen to them, as well as trying to live their life according to a book they have not even read. If there is a god, I would think that he would be more loving and not have such an ego as to let people go to hell for simply not believing. A truly loving god would look on the heart of a person.
The preacher never seems to get upset or mean with her that's a true believer, only telling of God's love and goodness, no finger pointing or being ugly showing God's love y'all God is a gentalman he gave us free will we can choose life with accepting his son's sacrifice for our sins and we can repent and be saved or Hell it's our choice ! Personally I love God and Jesus Christ my savior and I'm never going to die I will be with jesus ! Yeah !
Madalyn was beyond intelligent; in some ways to the point of insanity. I wish she'd been able to more effectively promote her knowledge. I've always admired her ability to speak out against religion.
And some people ask why some atheists get together, have podcasts and ask whats the purpose of doing these things in something you don't believe in, well, look at how she was introduced, that she may be the the most hated in America at that time. Many of us atheist do these things to normalize it so people are never looked at like she was at that time.
This gentleman didn't make one cogent point in the entire debate, but people are so afraid of death that they are willing to say that they believe him.
One of the classic (truthful) things she said, to Rev. Harrington. "Why don't you go someplace where the job might be more difficult to proselytize Christianity?" That would be one of the Muslim countries. Then see what happens. I bet any Christian that went there they came to regret it. Muslims don't play!
Welp I can't listen to this pummeling any longer. He makes a listener dumber by the word. Mam you are more patient than me thanks again for your words.
The women at the end who thinks if Madalyn dies a miserable death that is proof that she was wrong. As if good people (so called Christians) don’t die miserable deaths everyday. Smh ... 🙈
To wish that upon someone is not God’s Will... in fact, one should not ‘worship’ God if they feel that way about another human. That goes against Gods Will, it is one of the worst sins. What this woman has done, was to expose Christians who don’t understand their own religion.
@Danny Eric Benavidez as he should've been...but the question remains of how do "Christians" feel about him going to heaven since he was "born again." What a cop-out.
This is fantastic banter. I wish people would still have great disagreement with as much pleasure as these two did.
The good preacher then convinced Madalyn to tour the country for these debates for profit.
R Latham
People do have disagreements
And their disagreements usually end up with someone getting killed over who's shoestrings are who's.
I wish people still could have a disagreements without it turning death serious like these two 😁
@@roxannemoser What's wrong with that? They had to eat and live and that takes money.
I do have to agree that Ms Murray is kind of polite in this debate but try Dr Walter Martin debate with Ms Madalyn Murray O'hair. She is as nasty and rude as they come.
Watched several programs that Donahue had these two on and they were both so entertaining. It's a shame we don't have daytime television like this anymore instead of the drivel that is being presented these days.
and i agree with you 2000% if i was in charge of programing there would be a lot of radical changes
and i believe its driven by money the tv station is a business and the owner cares only
about making as much loot as possible he could care less about the quality of the program
Yes, I agree. Today's talk shows do nothing for the mind.
This woman did not deserve air time but alas God evened the scales
@@charluvstrue : And who are you, the air time police? Thank goodness people are waking up to the scam and ridiculousness of religion.
@@charluvstrue When you or someone you love gets sick with cancer or something else, and someone who didn't like that person says, "God even the scales," do you believe her? Or do you believe that she's just using her superstition to her own ends. Hmm?
I can totally appreciate this kind of debate. So quick witty fluent. It’s lacking these days.
What I love about this is they are having a conversation on a subject on which they have completely different opinions on and are dissussing there opions without screaming, yelling, cursing throwing anything today somebody would be yelling, crying or getting offended and then stomping off ! This should help teach people on opposite ends of some difference how you have a conversation Without being frigging offended !!!!!!
It's refreshing!
I saw Madalyn Murray O'Hair three days before she disappeared. I was with my folks at a restaurant called Coco's in Austin, Texas, where I still live (the restaurant is no longer there). We had just given our order to the waiter, and I started checking out the people in the restaurant, as many do. We were near the front of the restaurant, and I caught sight of Jon Murray sitting at a table in the rear, although his name didn't register. When I realized who he was, I craned a little bit and saw Madalyn, then Robin. It was obvious they were deep in discussion. About twenty minutes later they got up and left. It was the only time I saw Madalyn Murray O'Hair.
Saw her at FSU Law School when she gave a talk which included a heap of iconoclastic remarks as well as tons of curse words. She was a delight. Then I saw her in New York where the president of the Humanist Society tried to upstage her. She shone through though and she was brilliant! A shame she was violently killed and dismembered by the "all loving of all God's creatures " people. An example of the darkest of people's rationalizations stemming from an inability to stand on one's two feet without an absurd mental crutch. "By your fruits ye shall be known."
@@tommacdonald7990 👏👏👏
This has nothing to do with anything, but I’m loving Austin TX these days.
Wow.
You were on another clip of Madelyn O hair & I don't believe you. you're just grandstanding
I'm a spiritual man and I like keeping an open mind when it comes to religion as well as atheists points of view. This is what people used to do back in the day. People who have opposing viewpoints would sit and talk to each other. I find this charming as well as educational. I enjoy watching this very much!🙂
Well put. This is how people learn.
Charming ?
She was disrespectful to the preacher and she was disgusting taking the name of Jesus in vain during their conversation .
She did not have an open mind .
Can't you see she tried to force her belief of atheism on everyone , including children .
Fuck that preacher. Former Calvinist fundamentalist here
@@RobertStambaugh-l5r
Absolutely, it's a way to hear the demon's talk about their strategy that's failed and final demise they're about to encounter for eternity! I've heard them scream not to say His name because at the name of Jesus Christ they must bow! Quite amazing to hear them firsthand! It was their choice as we have ours but now they cannot retract! Destined for doom! 🛐 accept Him and be forgiven, it's His gift of salvation!✝️🙏♥️🕊️
Kathy bates could play her
She’d be perfect for the role!
I have always said this myself. YES.
@@wrekk Melissa Leo did a good job playing her on Netflix movie "The Most Hated Woman in America." It was a dark comedy.
@@janiemoore2721 Melissa Leo was awful and that movie was worst.
Yes!! American Horror Story!
I totally agree with her version of a romantic union. To be faithful to each other on the word of one another and when that can no longer be done then go on your different ways civilly. Remain friends and be responsible if you’ve created a child together. Celebrate it if you like but keep the legalities out of if you’re a decent human being to begin with.
I feel so badly for her. She, her son, and granddaughter died a horrific death. No one deserved to die that cruelly.
Bob Jones: I beg to differ. I am a born-again, Bible-believing Christian who felt very sad at her passing. Please keep in mind something. Man-made religious ceremonies (and religion in general) are often lauded by some of the biggest hypocrites in the world. I understand and appreciate an atheist’s opinion in that regard. But I can tell you that I would not be here today if it wasn’t for the Lord Jesus Christ, and the more I learn of who He really is and what He did for all of humanity, I love and appreciate Him even more. I won’t get into the details about what was going on in my life at the time I made the decision to accept Him as my personal Savior, but religion had nothing to do with, I can tell you that.
Bob Jones : Thanks 👍. There is nothing worse than a “holier than thou” person who confesses to be a Christian. Oftentimes, the ones who judge other people on how they should live their lives have the most to hide. I’ve known a few. They are pedophiles, embezzlers, and thieves. It’s no wonder that people want nothing to do with that type of “Christianity”. I completely understand.
No one deserves to die that cruelly.........
What about abortion
Isn't that a cruel way to die??
@@pastpresent2223 : I couldn’t agree with you more. Abortion is government sanctioned murder, and murder of the most vulnerable and precious. I hate it.
@@chynnadoll3277
So whadda we do about it??
I'm glad she spoke her mind.. But, a very sad part of her life at the end. I just watched the movie on RUclips..THE MOST HATED WOMAN IN AMERICA.. You have to see it.. Sad, at the end.. but very good..MUST WATCH IT.. I wish Texas would have done something more.. May she rest in peace.. And her son and her son's daughter. ..🙏🙏🙏 AMEN...❤❤❤
Thank you, I will watch it. I respect this woman immensely.
I noticed he didn't say he based his beliefs on facts, logic, evidence and proof... he said, '' I believe it because I want to ''.
That's why it's called faith, which by definition is "a firm belief in the absence of proof." Kind of like The Big Bang Theory. Some people believe in it. They have absolute faith that it's true, even though they have no concrete proof that it occurred. Which is why it's still called a "theory."
@@Po1itica11yNcorrect Correct, faith is believing without evidence. There's no proof for god, religion or anything supernatural...all are taken on faith.
I was a personal banker in downtown Austin during the 1980s and remember very well waiting on Madeline Murray O'Hare several times. Even though I'm a devout christian, I admire her intellect and devotion. I can't say that her persona it's quite different in real life than in public
How was she different out of the public eye? just curious.
As a Christian and daughter of 2 ministers, I love how they were able to speak to each other and not at each other . Whether or not I agree with her I respect her right to express her beliefs just as I want the right to express mine . Religion should not be forced but also not repressed .
Finally! A Christian who gets it!
You said it perfectly!
Indeed God doesn't force anyone today to accept Him, He technically didn't force anyone in the Old Covenant they yielded to His will after they saw his power. Just before Jesus died on the cross, He said it is finished, that is fulfillment of the law.
If folks decide to disregard the Bible then there is a consequence, if they believe and follow the Bible then that also has consequence. The Bible is absolutely clear about each consequence because of the belief.
@@darinb.3273 Why in the world would you believe an ancient myth?!
@@chikkipop Why do you think or what is your proof the Bible is myth?
I don't consider myself an atheist. But I respect her for standing up for her beliefs. She wasn't a sheep. And for that. She was the shit. 💯💯💯💯💯
Ashley Elysian
Madelyn Murray stood up for her beliefs or rights......she gets approved.
I stand up for my beliefs and rights.....I get slapped down.
Why is that???
She was gifted with a quick wit and intelligence, that is intense no matter your political proclivities
I share your sentiments exactly. How courageous was she really! I also don't consider myself an atheist but have constant inner struggle with organized religion, especially when I see how UNCHRISTIAN the so-called Christians or God-fearing people act towards others. Frankly, if we all treated each other with love, compassion and empathy; if we just observed the 10 commandments without ever putting our foot in church, this world would be a near-perfect place for everyone. Screaming God this and the other while hating people for their skin color, religion, sexual orientation, etc., doesn't make you a "good Christian." Far from it. Start with "Love thy neighbor; Thou shalt NOT kill"...
@@waimbuthia820
I'm not an atheist, but agree with you. Christians have turned being a Christian into a religion.
Religions are man-made
A relationship with God through Jesus Christ is not a religion.
@@pastpresent2223 Are you claiming you’re “the victim?” Which is very in vogue. Since you aren’t in touch with reality, she was slapped down plenty for being outspoken. Read a book.
That dude is fog horn leg horn without the stammer
Truly loving this back and forth. However, rather depressed that I can't get a brand new Chevy for $6969 ($149 a month) anymore, haha.
Imagine telling people watching this that their kids would pay 30000 for a car
😂
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Quotable Quote
from Madalyn Murray O'Hair
....
“An atheist believes that a hospital
should be built instead of a church.
An atheist believes that deed must
be done instead of prayer said.
An atheist strives for involvement in life
and not escape into death.
He wants disease conquered,
poverty vanished, war eliminated.”
The church is the people not buildings. 1 Peter is about doing good deeds!
@Yo Adrian semantics regarding the building or the people.
“Good works” can be done by a non-believer as well as a believer. And are.
One difference is, religious based “good works” diverts much of the money towards the religious organizations themselves.
“Doctors without Borders” has no hidden recipients.
What hospital did she build?
riiight, only that... the hospital itself comes from the hospitable knights order. you know... the guys with a RED CROSS on their shields.
@Rulya Mórrigan Ard Mhacha Rulya, STFU. YOU ARE TOO STUPID TO ENGAGE WITH OTHERS. You are CLUELESS. The Catholic Church is the most corrupt regime on the planet. Period.
I like her, shes witty. Hate she had to go the way she did.
Really, I feel sorry for her because when she did go as you say her pain just began, it is a fearful thing to fall in the hands of a living God, be careful who and what you follow
@@joycechafin4587 how do you know that?
Gotta agree with ya 💯
This is the nicest I've seen Madalyn Murray O'hair. I think she liked the reverend.
that's the vibe i got too, lol. these 2 got it going on, ha ha ha. but all that aside, she usually was pretty awful. and the things she advocates for are awful too.
@Rulya Mórrigan Ard Mhacha Not true. She dealt better with honesty and intelligent dialogue. No worries. That excludes you.
@@itsMe_TheHerpes No, herpes, you missed the whole point she was making. So sick of dumbasses.
the conversation was so great that I tought the reverend was phil donahue. and phil was just a guy that helps the presenter.
So amazing to watch these two. Thank you for uploading this!!!
I'm an atheist and grateful there is no atheistic doctrine. Unlike Mrs.O'Hair I do believe there is a higher plane of existence after death. I appreciate the positive responses for both these participants here.
Atheism is rife with doctrine. But it's from dipshits like Dawkins and Hitchens.
You say "a higher plane of existence?" Do you believe in reincarnation?
What do you base this belief on?
I am not an atheist, I am a antitheist. I believe religion is the single most destructive and regressive institution that has ever cursed humanity. Sincerely,
I am starting to think I may be an antitheist as well. All religions were created out of superstition and with the intent to manipulate and control others.
Jesus, Muhammad, Abraham, Joseph Smith, Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc.
All of these men were cult leaders and they were in it for power over others.
Do you know how she died?
Do you think Christians were murdered because they didn’t believe in God? How do you explain the terrible ways they died. Where was God or Jesus when they were fighting for their lives and calling for their family? Why are others saved by “God”, but babies and children are left to die horrifically.
@@yourmajesty3229 Your first sentence is a bit unclear. Can you double-check the wording of your first sentence in your post? Thanks.
and how ironic to see that Madeline was killed by an atheist criminal..
Lol Madalyn: Why are you hallucinating like this?😂😂
Thank you Phil. We miss you....always.
I’ve seen this preacher man in other debates. Apparently this traveling snake oil salesman hasn’t ever experienced a tremendously confident and brutally honest strong woman like Madalyn!! She kept him up against the ropes in the corner and just intellectually plummeting him to the point he could only revert back into his rehearsed fallback responses.
OMG! This is recorded in 1970, I was 15, I sure wish It heard of her back then.
I love watching her she’s so straight forward
She was tortured, murdered, dismembered and disposed of! Sad
Madalyn started a grassroots campaign that was way ahead of her time. Luckily others kept it going such as Hitchens, Dawkins and Harris.
23:57 - The audience member says "I'm sorry that your mistaken, because Dayton Christian School is integrated very definitely" - Dayton Christian School was still segregated at the time the show was filmed in March 1970 and DCS didn't support the idea of racial integration/desegregation until 1972, 2 years later
And she was greedy for public money too. Shameless.
Greedy bible thumpers, lying through their teeth
Let’s face it, Religion from one end of the spectrum to the other, is all about MONEY $$$
@@johnsaxton5281 and control!
@@johnsaxton5281 not at all.
HE WAS DELUSIONAL! MAN MADE MANY GODS
She was brilliant 👏 👏 👏 and I wish she was still alive!
this guy is failing the debate so bad lol😂
The accent doesn't help
love this woman breaks my heart how her and family were murdered
Thank you mam for bringing reason and critical thinking to the community
She was a vile, repulsive monster!
Seems as if they are enjoying themselves. Very refreshing.
Am a SOBER woman. I don't give credit to "god"for getting me sober!
It was myself who did!!!
Hell is to SCARE small children to make them behave.
How dare they say you're going to f ing HELL to children!. Raised my 4 kids without religion. They are kind,gentle human beings! WITHOUT GOD!
Filmed on Dayton Ohio the first Donahue show!!
Kathy bates should play her
I just watched the movie on Madalyn Murray on Netflix. She was a pioneer. Sad her son, grand daughter and her were murdered.
The netflex movie doesn’t do her justice. She was so smart and witty.
I love how Donohue plays the devils advocate, as I watched him at lunchtimes during my early school years. It amazed me, he would read an entire book just for that one show... and it prompted me to read at an accelerated rate... consuming books on subjects instead of stories.
It taught me to "not believe" what the author is trying to make the reader do. It taught me to "believe in not believing". An atheist can be more than just refuting dieties....☮
Breaks my heart that she was murdered. She was smart, brave, and ahead of her time. RIP Madalyn.
Fethker
Madelyn Murray O'Hare is not RestingIP.
There is no RestingIP for a tormented soul/spirit.
Hell has torments
Torments means more than one.
@@pastpresent2223 That's what you think because you're brainwashed. What a fool!
@@Kipchumba_Chepkwony
The fool(that's you) has said in his heart (that's you again) there is no God (that's you again).
I can't be the fool, because I have never said that, whether I thought it, spoke it, or wrote it down.
And you have no evidence I have been brainwashed.
Now do ya,,
Huh?
Do ya.
@@pastpresent2223 I also read in a storybook, an idiot (that's you) fails to use his mind (that's you again) to realize that reality doesn't lie. Of course you have no evidence that your little imaginary friend whom you call god exist. If you did by now you would have won the Nobel Prize, $1m, and fame, everybody in the whole world would have known about you. If you see my point, you now know who the fool is *YOU*
@@pastpresent2223 : Why don't you get an education and think for yourself. Now, you people are predicting who and who does not get tortured by a god who also murdered people, children, and infants. You are sick.
Imagine being the most hated women in
America just because you don't believe in a God, she was very articulate woman and ahead of her time.
Yes, there are more people now waking up to the ridiculousness of religion; about damn time.
She infringed on people’s rights and Was RACIST as fuck. Fuck her.
She attempted to kick christianity out of America and also tried to stop children from enjoying and celebrating Christmas .
I don't hate her , but i hate everything she stood for with every ounce of my being .
We are not an atheist nation , and yet this woman tried to force her atheist belief on all Americans and she was a complete failure .
I agree with 64JBran..today's daytime shows are drek, I miss Phil, Mike Douglas, even Morton Downey Jr. was more entertaining.
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The irony is, according to Frank Zindler in his autobio 'Confessions of a Born Again Atheist,' Rev. Bob Harrington did appear and speak at one of Madalyn's atheist conventions after he lost his faith, became an unbeliever, then later got it back (so to speak).
lol...loved this! Both are very sharp!!
The guy is a big dummy thoe 😂
@@known_film4081: Whoa! I forgot about this video.
Madeline, you were away ahead of your time.
You made such common sense. I'm 73 years old now and I still do not believe in that magical invisible friend that these people were talking about it. You had the guts to stand up to them and that's good. I would have loved to have met you personally. I
Someday you will
Madalyn Murray O'Hair is a BOSS!
In case you're wondering, Bob Harrington was divorced 7 years later, after having had an affair. No different than any other affair, I guess, except for his self-righteousness. O'Hair, on the other hand, was kidnapped and murdered 25 years later, along with her son and her granddaughter. The bodies were found over 5 years later.
The world would be a much better place without religion.
I am a believer and I am loving this character Mrs O'Hair. She's just lovely!
It's just saddening that some bad people had to end her life the way
Not bad people at all people like herself saturated in the devils ways
I admire her in some ways, but I think as far as that whole matter of her death she was pretty foolish. To write a published paper piece about a known criminal to royally piss him off is not a good tactic.
Yes, she was a spirited woman.
@@christianresearchproject There is no god, no proof, no miracles, no help from god. No one needs religion to know right from wrong. People know something is wrong & still do it - even church people. :)
@@christianresearchproject That’s ridiculous! It doesn’t take religion to define goodness and evil. Come on.
Religious attendance at an all time low.
Wow the audience member at 37:31 spoke prophetically because Madalyn did die a miserable death. She was kidnapped, murdered, and dismembered in 1995
'' miserable death '' ? how bout christians being fed to lions ?
@@jerrylanglois7892 And how about Catholics torturing people. And how about all those babies and children dying while mommy & daddy pray, pray, pray. And all those diseased people that die young. No one deserves to be murdered but there you go - happens everyday to good and bad people.
@@bebrewer9249 All religion is torture.... mental slavery really.
@@jerrylanglois7892 i feel bad for you.
@@marilynanthony4727 How so ?
I am an atheist and agree with her. Most atheists I see, dont like her militant form of atheism. I would like to debate Christian right wingers. Its ok to be aggressive with your thoughts and feelings about a particular subject.
Even if you don't agree with these two people, they were great to watch debate!
She's 60 million miles ahead of him.
Eternity is an awful long time. Especially towards the end.
-Woody Allen
Respect to both but I am drawn to Madelyn for some reason. I just like her charisma, honesty, and she talks real spicy 🌶
@Watch Man Another butt-hurt man standing in judgment of another. Haha Dude, you’re the one on the very wide and very populated road to hell. Exalting himself up to God, which is what you are doing taking His seat in judgment, is what got the devil himself kicked out of heaven. You know, I think you dumbasses who claim to be holier-than-thou, “believers,” are just religious zealots who think they’re on their way to heaven. Spoiler alert, you’re not. Madelyn will go to heaven before you will. She’s being honest. You’re being arrogant, prideful and self righteous. You’re the biggest snowflake of all. Joke’s on you.
@Watch Man Rather be in hell than in Heaven with someone like you (I"m sure you'd make it a hell anyway).. SNAP! Snowflake.
@Watch Man : Why do you think you are the judge and jury?
@@anitakinnear6735 : Love your answer. Christians have not even read the bible and they are telling others what will happen to them, as well as trying to live their life according to a book they have not even read. If there is a god, I would think that he would be more loving and not have such an ego as to let people go to hell for simply not believing. A truly loving god would look on the heart of a person.
The preacher never seems to get upset or mean with her that's a true believer, only telling of God's love and goodness, no finger pointing or being ugly showing God's love y'all God is a gentalman he gave us free will we can choose life with accepting his son's sacrifice for our sins and we can repent and be saved or Hell it's our choice ! Personally I love God and Jesus Christ my savior and I'm never going to die I will be with jesus ! Yeah !
I think he found a great way to make a good living.
An atheist in the 1970s. I was born yet, but that's super cool!
I Love Here Tho Maday
This is like watching a well-played chess game. I know that Madalyn Murray O’Hair rubbed people the wrong way but she was pretty intelligent
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RIP Madalyn! Your rational, independent thinking is sorely missed. ♥️
They are clearly having a lot of fun. 🤔
Love Madelyn. She was great.
This guy is a professional Christian.
Hail to O'Hair!
Madalyn was beyond intelligent; in some ways to the point of insanity. I wish she'd been able to more effectively promote her knowledge. I've always admired her ability to speak out against religion.
nwadoug the word blind springs
She’s an atheist the most hated woman in america
Mick Mousse Hated by so-called Christians
@@AyTimetraveler yeah, hated by the ignorant and the unaccepting
And some people ask why some atheists get together, have podcasts and ask whats the purpose of doing these things in something you don't believe in, well, look at how she was introduced, that she may be the the most hated in America at that time. Many of us atheist do these things to normalize it so people are never looked at like she was at that time.
Too bad she didn't maintain this temperament. She became much more angry and hostile in later years.
Horse puckey
Go ahead young lady let it be known don't play with me you remembered thank you
She remains undefeated to this very day!
Whether you agree with her not, she was an enormously interesting and intelligent woman.
Hell is a hot place.
@@connievino4226 Only in your imagination. But if hell would exist, I would prefer it to heaven because of the better company there.
This gentleman didn't make one cogent point in the entire debate, but people are so afraid of death that they are willing to say that they believe him.
Girl I love that smile of yours beautiful as ever
2020 and that one caller is still waiting....
Covid has them on hold...lol
The sexual tension between these two is immense.
She kicked his ass.
Why does everything have to be a competition
Better then xtian god, thanks M.❤
“It’s bad enough when my husband wants to handle my marriage . I’ll do this myself . “. 😂😂
Do you have any videos of Donahue interviewing WFB? I for one would greatly appreciate it .
If anyone took Frost's "Road Less Traveled" it was Madalyn.
she was a magnificent debater, sharp mind.
I love this brave and courageous woman.
People like her with guts to speak up are the reason i tossed god in the trash, thank you
I agree with this women 100%
The guy is a prime example why people turn to religion. Guilty conscience.
Undeserved authority. Plus he's obviously a performer
Harrington desperately repeats cliches and O Hair confidently spoke intellectual arguments.
This is amazing! I totally agree with...
Madalyn was so savage 🤣
One of the classic (truthful) things she said, to Rev. Harrington. "Why don't you go someplace where the job might be more difficult to proselytize Christianity?" That would be one of the Muslim countries. Then see what happens. I bet any Christian that went there they came to regret it. Muslims don't play!
She was a hero.
Welp I can't listen to this pummeling any longer. He makes a listener dumber by the word. Mam you are more patient than me thanks again for your words.
Madelyn was an amazing woman! Very well spoken and could hold her own! She was truly a treasure
Wow! The lady that asks about her death! ☠️
The women at the end who thinks if Madalyn dies a miserable death that is proof that she was wrong. As if good people (so called Christians) don’t die miserable deaths everyday. Smh ... 🙈
To wish that upon someone is not God’s Will... in fact, one should not ‘worship’ God if they feel that way about another human. That goes against Gods Will, it is one of the worst sins. What this woman has done, was to expose Christians who don’t understand their own religion.
@Danny Eric Benavidez as he should've been...but the question remains of how do "Christians" feel about him going to heaven since he was "born again." What a cop-out.
Nope, she was a hero, because public schools had no rights to endors religion unto the students.
Yeah, but the christians suffer a short time, and have the promise of heaven, through Jesus.
@@OfftoShambala What is "God's Will" and how would you know about it?!
Jesus saves. Call out to him. ❤
Her son became a born-again Christian! 😂 I love that.
After being assaulted repeatedly including by police they broke the man eventually with violence