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10th Edition Dataslate POINTS CHANGES - Chaos Space Marines & World Eaters

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  • Опубликовано: 14 сен 2023
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    We are discussing the new dataslate and points changes to the chaos space marines and world eaters.

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  • @cinderheart2720
    @cinderheart2720 11 месяцев назад +71

    I feel like Vashtorr should be battleshocking vehicles with his debuffs, scaring the machine spirits.

    • @matthewmiguel2319
      @matthewmiguel2319 11 месяцев назад +3

      I second. Vashtorr was built in 9th but tuned for 10th and it shows hard. Just retooling his abilities to make him Shock enemies or even repair allies would be cool

  • @rayzj9512
    @rayzj9512 11 месяцев назад +43

    This is the certified secret CHAOS video

  • @chronovac
    @chronovac 11 месяцев назад +22

    I really do think they should have made Vashtorr the chaos void dragon

  • @samadams8533
    @samadams8533 11 месяцев назад +18

    Lord invocatus should be in every WE list, his stats are fine enough(the dev wounds feel nice), but the fact he is able to let two of your Berzerker bricks use Scout 6’ is essential for a WE army as a melee only army. It lets you deploy aggressively and if you get first turn you get an alpha strike off, and if you don’t get first turn you use the scout to get them out of line of sight behind obscuring

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад +1

      It does feel like the Alpha strike option is the WE's best chance and Lord Invo is key for that. It can be very swingy though.

    • @warpeace3755
      @warpeace3755 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@woahhbro2906good thing they can Rapid Ingress Angron if they dont get first turn

  • @zephyrus2569
    @zephyrus2569 11 месяцев назад +8

    8:14 I guess what you'd have to do is take 9 Chosen and pay for 10; then you'd be able to fit your 9 Chosen and the 3-model Dark Apostle unit in a transport. Pretty sure rules as written allow that, but correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @Entity404Found
    @Entity404Found 11 месяцев назад +5

    Through the machinations of Tzeench, I view this video early!

  • @DURTYMYK3
    @DURTYMYK3 11 месяцев назад +1

    As far as I know, yes, AoC stacks with cover. Had a bladeguard captain sitting in a ruin for 3 turns of Calladius shooting lmao

  • @Immortal-ironic-fist
    @Immortal-ironic-fist 11 месяцев назад +8

    No view, 17 hours ago... did ya forget to make this publicly visible? I found it in the footer for the other dataslate video, but its not showing on the channel page

  • @dylanralph6532
    @dylanralph6532 11 месяцев назад

    31:35 this description made me so happy for how accurate it was

  • @HammerdownProtocol
    @HammerdownProtocol 11 месяцев назад +6

    3× Rhinos, each with 2x fire points, carrying 6x 5 man Noisy Boys with Blastmasters.
    Change my mind.

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад +1

      Have to take Lucius to get 6 units, which means you can't have Abaddon. BUT, I think you're correct and everyone is sleeping on Emperor's Children lists.

    • @HammerdownProtocol
      @HammerdownProtocol 11 месяцев назад

      @@woahhbro2906 I can't wait for the Emperor's Children appropriate detachment

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@HammerdownProtocol Oh I know. The only reason why I haven't started an EC army is because I'm really hoping they'll release models for them soon. Then again, I've been saying that for years now...lol

  • @pajoulrod
    @pajoulrod 11 месяцев назад +1

    First 5 seconds:
    This is your brain on chaos

  • @reillyclements1673
    @reillyclements1673 11 месяцев назад +1

    My go to combo for CSM is
    10xChosen with x4 combi weapon/plasma pistol, 6x Boltgun/X2 powerfists
    Undivided, with sorcerer and exalted champion with libre hereticus in a nurgle rhino

  • @Xynth25
    @Xynth25 11 месяцев назад +4

    100pt Warptalons are so sexy. Don't think I can swing it but trying to fit 3x5 with MoS into my list. They're *fantastic* fast skirmishers and action monkeys now. Love the variety of units we can get away with using now.

  • @lonktheherooftim2675
    @lonktheherooftim2675 11 месяцев назад +7

    Bet this was posted by the Alpha Legion

    • @loganparry2676
      @loganparry2676 11 месяцев назад

      You’re cringe and this is why I am here. Perish Griffin, for Nurgle shall infect your warriors to make them happy for once.

  • @ottiv1125
    @ottiv1125 11 месяцев назад +2

    Sadly, Daemon Prince on foot does not give cover to vehicles or monsters, only infantry.

  • @joshhondiscord3295
    @joshhondiscord3295 11 месяцев назад +1

    Armor of Contempt and cover do stack, been abusing that since the start of 10th and it makes Land Raiders absurdly hard to kill

  • @jinguini8001
    @jinguini8001 11 месяцев назад +3

    Instead of a dark apostle with chosen I’d recommend a master of executions because he gives those +1 to hit and wound and gets you cp. and he attaches in addition where you can attack Fabius bile to make your chosen T5 AND get a 5+ fnp

    • @alb1n0burrit0
      @alb1n0burrit0 11 месяцев назад

      My chosen brick is with Huron and Moe. Huron gives some nice movement options and redeploy

  • @ArtFord
    @ArtFord 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think all the marine troops that dropped in points where to keep them more viable with Abaddon, since it looks like GW seemed to adjust Abby away from a wall of terminators while Ge takes out a unit solo. It also probably is because the mortal wound nerf probably makes them more useful in larger numbers. But it's GW, so it could be anything, really.

  • @niccolo6865
    @niccolo6865 11 месяцев назад

    0:00 Bricky jumpscare

  • @shell_of_myself
    @shell_of_myself 11 месяцев назад +3

    The marines are getting Detachments that very clearly replicate the chapters, so I assume that CSM will get something similar

  • @Kibbet21
    @Kibbet21 11 месяцев назад +1

    Bricky i was already bringing Venomcrawlers you didnt have to bring up i was only shooting half its guns 😂😂

  • @pajoulrod
    @pajoulrod 11 месяцев назад +1

    God I miss having mortals on my Master of Executions..... man used to roll up with at most 9 attacks at 8, -2, 5 damage with devastating wounds. Like, man used to DELETE massive squads of infantry

  • @jamesjjameson1632
    @jamesjjameson1632 11 месяцев назад

    8:37 Well my dark apostle taught me a few things too. Like how to not to rip the skin by using someone else's mouth, instead of your own hands

  • @NA-zs4xi
    @NA-zs4xi 11 месяцев назад

    Man I loved this CSM update, I looked at it, looked at my 240 cultist list, qnd nothing fucking changed

  • @snowconesyrup2698
    @snowconesyrup2698 11 месяцев назад +1

    I just wish melee was more viable so csm can move away from oblit and forgefiend spam

  • @chasewyatt1607
    @chasewyatt1607 11 месяцев назад

    That intro made me feel like I was in Tzeench's realm.... I didn't know where to look and it hurt my eyes. Good vid though.

  • @ponchogrande5993
    @ponchogrande5993 11 месяцев назад +1

    The Defiler is my perfect derpy crab son and I will not stand for your slander.

  • @user-co6wc8di5l
    @user-co6wc8di5l 11 месяцев назад

    As someone who can't stand Abbadon as a character I appreciate that CSM has more options making it possible that I don't see him.

  • @woahhbro2906
    @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад

    World Eaters are definitely feast or famine depending on whether or not they go first AND roll well on their Blessings. You have to deploy as if you think you'll go first as well. And if you don't...well, you're dead.

  • @chaoticrevenge7950
    @chaoticrevenge7950 11 месяцев назад +1

    Venomcrawler going down to 120 points is crazy!

  • @solidsentinel1285
    @solidsentinel1285 11 месяцев назад +2

    For World Eaters the only things that didn’t get cheaper for us was the forge fiend(+20) and angron(no change). I have like almost another 200pts to play with

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад +1

      I only saved 45 points on my list 😢 But I got a brand new bag now and it includes Kharn baby!

    • @solidsentinel1285
      @solidsentinel1285 11 месяцев назад

      @@woahhbro2906 kharn is very good, I used him today to kill a Necron Nightbringer

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад

      @@solidsentinel1285 Yeah, I'm using him as a missile that comes out of reserves with 10 Berzerkers. Not sure if it's the best way to use him but who knows

    • @solidsentinel1285
      @solidsentinel1285 11 месяцев назад

      @@woahhbro2906 oh yeah that would be good, I’ve used him with a 5 man coming out of a rhino

  • @PandaKnightsFightingDragons
    @PandaKnightsFightingDragons 11 месяцев назад

    10:45 HOW DID THIS MAN JUST PRONOUNCE ARGEL TAL?!

  • @sebastiantirado3675
    @sebastiantirado3675 11 месяцев назад

    Vash tor should just be able to give hazardous to enemies

  • @BigMizzzy
    @BigMizzzy 11 месяцев назад

    Right when I thought Bricky couldn't get wider chaos proves me wrong.

  • @thedigitaldemon8010
    @thedigitaldemon8010 11 месяцев назад +4

    Berserkers on Juggernauts not being a thing is a crime.

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад +1

      Many people suspect they'll come soon. As well as hopefully a model that can lead our Terminators...Azrakh the Annihilator is sitting right there, GW! 😂

  • @sleepygaming5185
    @sleepygaming5185 11 месяцев назад

    Bricky, you can put Master of Possession, Master of Execution and 10 Chosens in a Land raider

  • @YlvaTheValkyrie
    @YlvaTheValkyrie 11 месяцев назад

    I wish they didn't just forget about Killteam units. 95 points for Beastmen? When Legionaries are 90 now?

  • @isaachaahr8691
    @isaachaahr8691 11 месяцев назад

    If warp talons were in loyalist space marines I would run 30 in my white scars at least once. They look very nice for 100 per 5.

  • @Cursedsama
    @Cursedsama 11 месяцев назад

    Chosen are really good, but they got a bit nerf in an earlier dataslate, now they can't keep their bolters AND take special weapons anymore

  • @sierraandrews9921
    @sierraandrews9921 11 месяцев назад

    Honestly my experience with alpha strike world eaters is "Yes I have killed you entire frontline" and then by my next turn I have no army left xD

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад

      Agreed. Yeah, World Eaters can hit hard and are fast, but we're still glass cannons and sometimes our cannonballs bounce off things (vehicles and tanks)

  • @Thatoneguyyoudontkno
    @Thatoneguyyoudontkno 11 месяцев назад

    Ahhhhhhh!...
    oh, its just Bricky.

  • @xzyled5684
    @xzyled5684 11 месяцев назад

    Can confirm, Angry-Ron is a menace. Played a 1500pt game vs my buddies Chaos Knights(he only has 1500pts worth of knights atm), The Angry boy SLAPPED 2 rampager's and 2 doggo's, doing 56 wounds too one of the knights 😅🤣 The only thing "annoying" about him is trying to hit the triple 6's for his resurrection..... I'm at 1/5 game streak of him not coming back 😭😩

  • @MegaApostel
    @MegaApostel 11 месяцев назад

    Warptalons really are good for some
    nice secundary shenigans

  • @AtcRomans116
    @AtcRomans116 11 месяцев назад

    I agree, I have a lot more fun playing World Eaters than I do when I play Nids or Death Guard.

  • @hooflord3146
    @hooflord3146 11 месяцев назад

    Berserker Moe is a monster
    Soloed a Lancer after taking Sus1 and Lethal1 on the turn, Basically fishing for 6s for the Lethal Hits and Dev Wounds

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't think most people outside of World Eater players know just how powerful the Berzerker Glaive MoE actually is. I feel like he's a hidden secret 😂

  • @reillyclements1673
    @reillyclements1673 11 месяцев назад

    MoP gets dev wounds on his anti psyker 2+ weapon in a possessed squad

  • @christopherclayton5500
    @christopherclayton5500 11 месяцев назад +1

    I was not frightened, but was disturbed.
    Off topic, but my money is on the T'au detachments being based upon their battle philosophies. We already know the names of 5 or 6 of them, so that's around the expected number, and the only detachment they have so far is named after one of those.

    • @NANA-lq5md
      @NANA-lq5md 11 месяцев назад

      Wait, the Tau detachments have been leaked?

    • @christopherclayton5500
      @christopherclayton5500 11 месяцев назад

      @NANA-lq5md No, I meant a previous edition's codex listed at least 5 war philophies. I apologize for the ambiguity. Off the top of the dome, they are Kauyon, Montka, Monat, Rinyon, and Ripya.

  • @santaclauseking
    @santaclauseking 11 месяцев назад

    I love my WE defiler...

  • @immadingus6298
    @immadingus6298 11 месяцев назад

    Ahhhh damn that 5head

  • @solomongrey2477
    @solomongrey2477 11 месяцев назад

    Just wanted to drop some love in the comments, love your work, keep it pushing and alladat

  • @johncooney3940
    @johncooney3940 11 месяцев назад +1

    I got to say, I am very tempted to play World Eaters now

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад

      Borrow your dad's chainsaw and join us!

  • @tbone11x
    @tbone11x 11 месяцев назад

    Bricky went from a five-head to a ten-head

  • @jacobcrew5342
    @jacobcrew5342 11 месяцев назад

    the reason the WE heldrake costs more is because it has a bombing run for its ability

  • @Awesomotron2k
    @Awesomotron2k 11 месяцев назад

    You can't take 10 chosen plus apostel and his posse and put them all in a rhino. You can take 9 though! Yes you pay for a ghost chosen, but still. Pretty good.

  • @drakebaker2769
    @drakebaker2769 11 месяцев назад

    Hot take: Invocatus is cringe and nothing but a gimmick. Why has nobody, even Auspex Tactics, mentioned that the Juggetlord dropped FIFTY points?? He's only 100, hits hard, and gives an EB unit reroll advance and charge. Easily worth imo.

  • @carrotjizz1217
    @carrotjizz1217 11 месяцев назад

    Brickle

  • @Haechpee
    @Haechpee 11 месяцев назад

    Support

  • @zielisawzielony9366
    @zielisawzielony9366 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thumb down for Defiler hatin, U sir are a git.

    • @woahhbro2906
      @woahhbro2906 11 месяцев назад

      The Defiler is a beautiful baby boy who deserves love

  • @darrenmills3943
    @darrenmills3943 10 месяцев назад

    Bro you scared me, how could you?

  • @HippoKing.MP3
    @HippoKing.MP3 11 месяцев назад

    Video too scary, cant watch :(