The History of Baseball Cards
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- This is my version of the history baseball cards. This video takes you from the very first baseball card in 1863 through the boom of the late 1980s and early 90s, and into thoughts on today's market.
I don’t know how else to say this...but this is the best RUclips video I’ve watched in a while. Thanks so much for the useful information. Since I’m a teenager, I don’t know a lot about the hobby but my dad got me and my brother interested in collecting in 2007.
Thanks Jacob! Make sure to checkout my other videos. I have some baseball advice videos that might help.
Great job on the history of baseball joy it
Thank you Silver Jackify! You covered a lot in under 33min. As a hobbyist during childhood in the late 80's and early 90's, this helped me understand the bigger picture of the tradition. I also sensed a lot of crossover with the history of comic books. Thanks again!
Haha and i love that people are still watching this video 5 years later lol! thx for watching
7 year old video and anyone who is new and trying to get into vintage can still learn so much from the video!
Few years late but I enjoyed the hell out of this video
MikeO Haha 4 years later!!!
I'm not really a collector, I just come by a box of cards that was left to my wife who had absolutely no interest in them. I sorted them, amazed at the all the different makers of the cards you spoke of in this very informing video plus others like Score, and Swell. I've never heard of them before. These cards are mainly 87-92 Topps, Stadium Club, parallel cards along with Fleer and Ultra. I'm trying to learn about the values of different cards and where to go find info on them. I found you video very inciteful and answered some questions I have.
well produced video. I have collected since 1979 and still enjoy. i collect all years.
Thanks TL
Loved seeing the Donny Baseball cards! The Beckett was the go too! When you were talking about the 86 Donruss from the 1990 Beckett I instantly flipped that page in my head just some great memories back when you could buy cards do you like what you talked about work out the price move on you have a Mike Schmidt rookie now you have a Mike Schmidt rookie but there’s a little ding in the corner it’s just not fun anymore. Do you ever recall sports collectors digest? It was in a newspaper type form. My dad traveled to Chicago for work ( I grew up in Iowa) he would grab this newspaper printed sports collectors digest it was in the vertical format. Just the memories of looking at your cards that was the sweet spot for collecting regardless of value. The 52 topps I just absolutely adore! It’s not even the prices it’s the quality and just obviously the beauty! Along with seeing those signatures People were grateful with the signature today’s world it’s just sloppy. Thanks for your video loved it
Very informative. Awesome info. I look forward to future videos. one of my favorite sets was 1952.
I really appreciate all the variety in the content you produce.
Love this card history video! I’m pretty familiar with the hobby from 1952 on but didn’t know much pre 52. Have to admit this video sent me on a wonderful chase down the T206, Old Judge and Play Ball rabbit hole. Pleasantly surprised that there are affordable SCG and PSA cards from these sets to be found. Thanks again for taking the time to do the research and make this video!
This is my favorite video on RUclips. Every time I'm sorting cards I put this video on to play in the background Haha. Just thought I would let u know lol AWESOME VIDEO BROTHER!
Big Shot's Gaming, Cards, etc. Haha thanks! I really appreciate that!
Greetings from Atlantic highlands, New Jersey... awesome video. Ben McDonald lol oooo the memories 😁😎🤗
Love the video man! I watched the whole thing. FYI though, the 1911 T205's were the first baseball cards to include the bio and stats on the backs, not the '52 Topps.
Cardboard Hobby Thanks, I appreciate it! Thanks for the correction as well. I guess the point i was trying to make about the 1952 stats, bio etc. was that it set the standard for many years to come. For the next 20 to 30 years stats were presented for position players the same way...games, at bats, runs, hits, doubles, triples, home runs, runs batted in, and batting average.
Hey not trying to be a know it all, but the ted williams fleer set you are referring to is from 1959 not 69. you are not the first person ive heard make that mistak, but saying ted retired a few years later which puts him playing till 72 . Would have been awesome for the game but knowing ted if he was in good enough to still play ball, he would have been in vietnam instead of on the diamond. The 1959 ted willaims set of 80, features 1 short printed card.
This is a very nice video. One for the books it should be. I have collects a lot over the last Nine Years. Yes, I've about 275,000 cards now. I didn't get into the vintage cards until I was into the hobby until just last year. Thing is: I do pat myself on the back for all of my hard work, and have a nice little nest egg to prevent living out of a cardboard box in the streets at retirement in about 11 years, lol. Yes, a very nice video. I too learned a lot. You can always learn more about the history of sports cards and the hobby from others, regardless of how large your own pile becomes. In the end, it's all about developing a love for sports and the folks that made all of those afternoons, weekends, and evening lots of fun. Best, - MDM - Peace. \\//
Cool video! Lots of childhood memories. I never got into the selling/trading of cards, but every weekend my brother and I used to buy baseball cards (and the Sunday newspaper for my parents). I remember the "Frosted Flakes 3D cards" that we used to get out of the cereal boxes. They weren't the best, but they were cool to have as a kid.
+bomjam 1 Haha you remember Nintendo Cereal?
+SilverJackify My interest in the cards went away in the early 1980's. So I never got into the Nintendo craze.
I miss how the older versions of topps finest looked
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Great video! Watched it on the way home from work ha
Haha...taking the train or bus i hope.
i know i have watched this before. great vid to watch again. awesome man,
Nice Ty For Sharing
Fun video and a nice jog down memory lane.
+CaseyJanes89 Thanks Casey! Glad you enjoyed it.
Browsing through old videos and came across this one. Good job with it. I would have turned it into a 4 hour documentary if I had tried to do it! LOL Interesting to hear your comments at the end about the future as I think we have certainly been seeing a resurgence of the hobby the past few years.
Dustin Bellinger Thx Dustin! Crazy to think that I recorded that video over 2 1/2 years ago and it still gets some play!
Always was told Peck/Snyder were the first baseball cards ever made. Anything before were just photos of players taken merely for a family portraits. Peck wanted cards with his advetisments on back for his sporting goods store which was eventually sold to Spaulding. Spaulding use to make the baseballs and bats which used at that time. That's the way it was explained to me by my grandfather born in 1898.
Great video Joe. I'm catching up with all your RUclips from the beginning 👍
I remember the 1963 Fleer "cookie cards" as we called them. The pack had no gum, but a small sort of biscuit/cookie with very little flavor and little red specks, which we debated over, as to whether they were providing cherry flavor or strawberry flavor. They were attractive cards, but only 66, I believe, were issued. Also, we lived in Wisconsin during the Lombardi years, and as soon as football cards came out, we began buying those instead of the later series baseball, so we did not get many baseball high numbers.
The prices listed in the Beckett magazines aren't values base on "mint" vs "near mint" condition cards, they're the high average selling price for what the cards are going for versus the low average price. In post-1981 cards it's stated in the magazines that the prices are for "mint condition" cards, while pre-1981 cards are for "near-mint" cards.
Finally someone said it lol but still a good reference when buying especially if ur new.
No one thought they would be worth anything back than. I didn't know myself until I saw the first price guide as a kid. Baseball Card magazine in 1981. It was 57. Topps lost their lawsuit in 1975.
Great video. If you haven't already it would be good to do an updated "where the industry is now." To cover what's happened in the last 4 years.
What about the 1948 leaf set? It was pretty iconic and significant
Nice video.
1st, while those 1800's cards technically were produced 1st, I guess I and many others considered the T206 Tobacco series (or T20x?) to be the 1st so-called Baseball Cards,
The T206 Wagner, from what I read and thought of as a kid, only had 25 made, and around the time I was reading about it, only 5 were known to exist (in the mid-late 80's). 1 of them I got to see in person at the Baseball Hall of Fame.
The Mantle obviously is a gem and hugely regarded after the T206 Wagner, to being the biggest and most famous card made. My father claims to have had a bunch of them, but like so many kids from his generation, his cards were kept in his parents basement and eventually thrown out by his mother.
Growing up collecting, Donruss (odd how you say it, as I've always pronounced their name Don-russ, ending the 1st syllable after the *n*) was always the 3rd fiddle to Fleer and then Topps. Although I found after 84, Fleer and even some of the Donruss cards/sets were better than Topps, and actually were priced and ultimately sold for more.
Wax Boxes?
BECKETT: I remember those zines, but actually, at least in my hometown of Minneapolis/St.Paul, there were Price Guides that were both more comprehensive and I honestly felt, more reliable than Beckett. I actually 1st remembered Beckett when I started collecting Basketball Cards in the early 90's. The Annual Price Guides were all I really needed.
Also not MINT, because "Mint" was considered basically untouched and perfectly centered. But the pricing that I looked at was "Near Mint" which usually was just a small percentage of a step down.
I'm surprised you didn't mention "Traded" and "Update" sets. Or SETS in general. SETS were a big part of collecting. It wasn't so much to get the individual cards as to own the whole set. I still own SEALED the 1st Upper Deck SET.
The Traded and Update sets were where a lot of the choice/rare gems were found. Many 1st/rookie cards were found, and maybe more importantly, THEY WERE MORE RARE. You wouldn't see packs of them for sale often, and they just were in smaller print quantity.
That Kal Daniels theory, my brother actually did with Ramon Martinez. He bought like 50 of his rookie cards. Ironically had he done that with his younger brother, Pedro Martinez a year or 2 later, that might have worked out more fruitfully for him.
Anyways, very nice video. Per time/discipline, I may have to try and make a video or 2 about my Baseball and Sports Cards, especially before I consider selling them for whatever small amount I can get which may not be too long from now sadly.
The industry just lost me around 1994 or 1995. Too many brands of cards, too many cards to collect. I also found other hobbies to invest my time and money in. But it was a huge part of my youth, and its videos like yours that gives me some nostalgia for it.
allmediareviews.blogspot.com Great recap. I had a similar attitude as you did a couple of years ago. I had loved baseball cards as a kid but then gave up the hobby because it felt as if the hobby had "sold out"...too many brands etc. I hope that you get to watch some of my other videos. You might be able to see that while the hobby has many flaws it is still can be a lot of fun and the RUclips community has a lot to do with it.
I believe the Fleer Ted Williams set was issued in 1959.And Fleer tried to compete with a regular set of players in '63 (66 cards) but of course was shot down in court by Topps
Baseball cards used to be a parallel world to me. I know it's there, but I never get to it. I think ball games are exciting, but I never understood why people collect cards for no actual purpose. But after this video, I began to get the idea about these cards. How it caught people's attention and the economy behind it. I think this is a great introduction and review to me! There's plenty of things I've learned. Thank you so much for upload this video.
Thank you so much! Check out my other videos if you get a chance!
$125?!?! That was my dream card and I could never afford it. One neighbor kid said he had the card, and I said "Nuh,uh!". He never proved to me he had it. I bought the card last month for like $6.
Very cool, Great stuff.
Love the video! Great job! I've been doing my part in trying to revive the hobby with my channel!
Awesome video, watched the whole thing. Great job! I think the most notable events in the hobby were of course the 1952 Topps set, I strongly feel the Topps Tiffany was the true beginning of the hobby grade modern card. I think Upper Deck is responsible for bringing the hobby back from the brink of death. Now look 2018 Shohei Ohtani 1/5 Bowman Auto RC variant just went for $30,600 on ebay. The value of cards is sky rocketing and the advant of graded cards is now making the hobby an invest viability, especially for the more vintage cards. I just hope the bottom doesn't fall out, these prices need to start stabilizing before people start getting financially hurt.
Really nicely done. You may want to think about producing something more in depth and a bit longer. There seems to be some demand for a real "in-depth" history of baseball cards. The book "Mint Condition" did a great job in print, and I think that a video series like that could do very well, with examples of the cards and possibly even footage of some of the card shows during the boom time.
Nice job!
Thanks! Much appreciated. I definitely need to pick up that book.
You should do an updated version. Looks like you've made some nice additions that would fit in well
Great Video. Thank You
Went old school and just watched this. Great video man. You know, the autograph I think, now is cool but I think it’s a lil over hyped, or overkill. I kinda like how heritage is, it’s a lil tougher to hit an auto. I really dislike the patches or any relics, I mean there are some cool patches but eh, I dunno. I wish they would do a set where it was just the stars of the game on nice thin stalk card with no relics or autos and no numbered cards. A set that was truly short printed but not ridiculously over priced. Just spit balling late, keep up the good work.
Thanks Drew! Haha that video is definitely old school at this point. Agree with you on the relics...most are gimmicky and are just eh. I generally stick to Topps and Bowman Chrome.
Crazy that a PSA10 52 Topps Mantle was valued at 12 million. Also, I hate that people still call it his rookie ignoring 51 Bowman.
You know! Nice recap of the book Mint Condition. I sure do love collecting baseball cards!
+topps85401 The funny thing is that I have never read Mint Condition....something i obviously need to do though.
Great video and a very nice card collection😁
The Williams set is 1959
I think we had the same childhood...Damn Eric Anthony! He was suppose to pay for my college!Fun Video, interesting how I think it was the strike and mass production that turned me off also.
+regentnd Haha I grew up in NJ so Brien Taylor, Kevin Maas, and Gregg Jefferies were the three guys that always come to mind.
Personally a big Omar Vizquel myself ever since I was a child
there was a 63 fleer set too
Awesome cards man! Very cool, thanks for sharing them, good video. Good information. 👍
Just got into the hobby it in 2012, it grows as long as baseball grows in us. Definitely not for the money, it just fun.
They assume it was over tobacco. Most likely Honus Wagner and Goudey couldn't reach contractual agreement. 14 known copies exist as of now.
I love this video man really nice. if I ha d to pic one person to give my cards to for a year I would pick you and I bet the cards would come back in the same condition. you are such a good owner for the cards.
Haha thanks!
I don't collect for the money I collect for the fun of it!!! The way it should be.l'm an old school collector and don't care for the stuff they have out there today but to each his own!!! Still a great hobby!!!⚾⚾⚾⚾⚾👍👍👍👍👍
Excellent video. Informative and stayed interesting. I've subscribed to your channel due to this video. Thanks man!
Great video! If you want a great history of baseball cards read "Mint Condition" by Dave Jamieson also "The Card" by Michael O'Keeffe.
I actually have read those myself Iv read a lot of base card articles there is one called "Why I will never sell my mark fidrych rookie card" I can't remmber the authors name but you the title alone will come easy give it a try.
Picked up 3 1940's Bowman cards because turns out, I had none. And they were cheap. Hope to do a slideshow of my oldest cards. Short vid :)
Great video! I'm glad I subscribed. Keep up the great content!
Good video
The 1st Old Judge Card you show is actually from 1889. The set was issued from late 1886-1890. Pretty much all of the grading companies label them all as 1887. The year of issue is based on the “design” on front.
Either way, a very nice video
Awesome video!
IMO the 1st baseball card would need some kind of stats on the back. If it's just a photo card with a blank back, I wouldn't feel that counts as a candidate for being the first baseball card.
this aged well lol. MANY people are getting back into the hobby lol
As a Junk Wax kid myself, I also remember thinking how all my cards would be worth money later in life. Maybe 50 of the thousands of cards are worth more than $5. Lol but it was fun at the time!!
In addition to the 1959 Ted Williams set, Fleer issued sets of old times in '60 and '61. Then in '63 Fleer issued a set of current players who declined to sign with Topps. I can understand not mentioning these sets in an overview but the '63 Fleer set is significant for the Maury Wills rookie card.
Awesome video dude
Joe let's go scuba diving at the bottom of the Hudson and find one of those pallots
Haha seriously I might have to do that.
I just don't want the 311 mantle I want that Ed Matthews I collect him
wow you have a crazy collection!
Awesome Video Thanks For Sharing
That’s was amazing, fantastic video 👌🏼
Have a very Merry Christmas!
#Thenorcalpicker
A lady busted out a collection with both Wright brothers and Spalding. The man invented the glove. Its on antiques road show
I personally have a baseball card of 1941 and don't know the person on it got it from the swaptmeet.
That davy jones is a 5 dang some mantle and hammerin hank cards ive seen were like 4 and 3
This is a great history of baseball cards. I want to get into vintage cards some more. I would rather have a nice card from the 1950's than a modern auto, hands down.....Great job and super inspiring! Nice collection of stars as well! Lol, I pulled out the same cards from the late 1980's Many of them had like one great year...I started collecting in 1985...when did you start?
I started collecting in 1987. I remember getting the 1986 Topps cards. I really got into it though in 1989 when 1988 Donruss came out. I have no idea why but I hoarded 1988 and 1989 Donruss like it was my job! haha
I collected from 1985-1993 (had like 80,000 cards, lol)...but then I stopped and stared up again last year....realized I should have bought less packs and more high end stuff, lol.
Same here vintage is cool to me. They made cards better back then. Now a days it’s all about money
Very Nice
how times have changed 1986 donruss Canseco booked for 125.00 now you can't give it away
+chris smith I still love that card though. $125 for Canseco...$250 for the McGwire USA card! Ummm....should have sold em. oh well i probably would have spent the money on something dumb anyways.
+SilverJackify personally you still don't have a true base collection and arnt a true baseball card fan unless you have those cards lol same with the Griffey, bonds, Clark etc..... 🙂 they might not be worth much now but are still kinda classic's when you think about it. Oh and they can still fetch a pretty good price if they get graded and get a good grade
Great video!
Daniel Wilson Thanks! It took me awhile to put this together so I'm glad you enjoyed it.
+SilverJackify oh and Taylor probably would have great had he not gotten into that bar fight and messed up his shoulder.
I was in 2nd or 3rd grade when we threw them against the wall as a game.
I used to have that book as a kid. Do they still make those?
Nice video!
This was a Great Video!!!
Cool video, learned a lot 👍🏼
Great video, well done!
Been collecting since 1990!
like your videos also I would like to know I have a Mickey Mantle card from like the 60s hits tops I think could you tell me what it's worth it says single on it it's Runners advance to second base gets number 2 of 32 it's a TCG Tops made in the USA it says and it's also got a Mickey Mantle signature on the front
How much money do you think you payed for all of these.
@M true statement, but baseball has a much longer history with cards. This is why it’s so popular in the US. It has become part of the American culture. I personally collect hockey cards, and Canadian have the same passion and cultural attachment to cards like baseball in the US.
The Honus Wagner tabbcco card is valuable card because he didn't chew tobaccos and wanted it discontinued.
Hey bud, what is your opinion on the Topps Holiday Edition boxes at Walmart? No Hobby shops close by so Walmart/Target is my only options aside from internet
I prefer Hobby boxes that can only be purchased online. I also obviously like the Baseball Crate (if you haven't checked out my other videos check it out). Baseball crate is 30 plus 5 dollar shipping and I've gone 9 months in a row now with a hit. Every once in awhile Walmart/Target will have a good deal such as the Topps Chrome Update or the Bowman Mega Box, but mostly it is a waste. With that being said, the Topps Holiday is interesting with the snowflakes so I guess you could do worse for only 27 bucks.
I will be getting my second baseball crate this month and I can't wait. Just wish they delivered on time! Dugout crate sent me a follow on twitter/ IG I may check them out.
How do you go protecting your cards(both vintage and modern)? Do you only sleeve and topload the key cards, and the rest in sleeves in a box or do you protect all the rookies and the key cards? Asking cause Iv been collecting since like 2008 and try to protect all my cards and tend to run out supplies like sleeves and toploaders and have to put the rest in card boxes and binders.
I put anything that is 2 dollars or over in the Beckett card guide in a penny sleeve and top loader. This way all my cards are nicely protected...lots of work though haha
SilverJackify I seen your sorting video but somethings I just wanted more info on. Like here the past few days Iv been go through my cards and only protecting higher end cards, key cards from sets I have, and low end autograph or memorabilia card(cause in my opinion they still deserve it), and some choice favorites like my Omar Vizquel Cards lol cause he is and always will be my favorite player and the rest I put in card boxes, penny sleeves to if I can.
Very cool video, I made a Facebook page for my baseball card collecting, was wondering can I upload this video to my page? The page is called "S.V. Lloyd's Baseball Card Collection".
Lloyd Ancestry Est in Virginia thanks! Go for it
you totally forgot to even mention the long running Score bord and there questionable autos....but still great video
the fleer ted Williams set you refer to is 1959 not 1969.
what does that willie keeler go for
He forgot the 48 and 49 leaf set
nice
Video games was a huge baseball card killer. Kids wanted to play Nintendo not collect baseball cards.
As a Trading Card Game person, the only appeal to sports cards is opening packs and stats.
fan9775 Why should kids born in 1995 care about sports athletes who played and retired before they were even born? The appeal to collecting was the impression that these cards were valuable, but the card manufacturers destroyed that because they over produced their product and flooded the market with supply. Remember all prices are derived from supply versus demand. Supply increased and demand decreased. That was the beginning of the end. Since then video games, computers, smart phones, and trading card games like Magic and Yu-Gi-Oh! have taken away interest in this former hobby.
Yes and the same thing with Beanie Babies as well. The majority of people don't understand that prices exist because scarcity exist and don't understand the supply versus demand curve and that this is how all things are valuated. Collectors forgot to discover how rare the item was that they were collecting and investing in and because they didn't understand this or research it they lost money. Remember as well that the US Dollar loses 2% compounded value due to inflation every year as well. So not only did they loss money in terms of what that money was valued at prior but also the lost the time to try to invest that money into an actual rare and future demanded investment. Sports cards, Beanie Babies, newer video games, and newer comics were all over produced and don't have enough rarity in them to make them investable.
I agree! But there’s also these other trading card games that have pulled collecting sports cards. Pokémon, Magic TCG, yugioh, etc
I collect both cards and money
1951 topps baseball doubles playing cards were the first topps cards not '52
Hunter Hughes No they are not a Topps set. They were manufactured by Topps but are not a Topps set. That’s like saying Doritos are Pepsi because they are made by PepsiCo
Lol nice comparison
He said he refused to have his cards in tobacco products that were for kids. Ironically he was a tobacco user himself, but didn't believe in tobacco companies using products that cater to children.
I have that gill hodges on the thumbnail
Uhm, the Bill Ripken card is still worth something
Statistics attracted children? I'm doubtful that you've ever met a child if you're saying stuff like that. When you look at the evolution of trading/promotional cards, people noticed that burgeoning card collectors tended to smoke more compulsively, and that kids also enjoyed collecting disposable ephemera. What happens here is that the marketing strategy starts to evolve from using cards to sell tobacco to adults into using bubblegum to sell cards to children. In the 50s baseball cards were definitely geared to a young market, I agree, but the use of stats wasn't a calculated move to tap into the kid market.
The inclusion of stat lines on the back of the cards meant that the cards became an accessible reference database for people regardless of age. In a pre-internet age baseball cards were a valuable resource for anyone who wanted access to players' career stats without having to memorize them. Even in the 90s I don't remember kids caring about stat lines on sport cards, not until we got into our teens
U know there was a 63 fleer
On ten & all together now, folk's... It is, Minnie Mino'so' & not, Minnie Mino'sa'. ; )
No talk about caramel cards? 1909?
Kevin S Sorry...maybe I’ll do a part 2 one day
Why are you shaking so bad?
Baseball card collecting was fun BEFORE the rich created the junk wax and the overrated junk slab grading eras.
You lost with your pronunciation of Donruss... It's Donruss, not Don Russ...