Bashing a Chinese microbrand for being non original? How about Steinhart, and their woefully non original catalogue. But wait, they use more expensive parts and movements, so the watch snobs are gracious enough to give them a pass. Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury.
@@thetimeteller thanks for replying I appreciate it. On the subject of Homages, it's a business practice that's not only accepted in just about any other form of business, it's encouraged to promote healthy competition....which is exactly what the elitist Swiss brands don't want. I wonder why Rolex have never brought out a $500 watch?
@@thekingfisher3366 Because Rolex is not in the market of $500 watches. Plus they make everything(!) in-house, which means their production price is higher than $500. It has nothing to do with lack of competition
@@CharlieTangoAlfa so you're telling me that a company with the most advanced facilities and resources available is incapable of producing a watch that costs less than $10,000?? "Not in the $500 market"....entirely by their choosing to keep their product exclusive and unobtainable to most, thus ensuring the allure of luxury and status.
@@thekingfisher3366 Rolex makes a million watches per year. They're not unobtainable to most. Today, Rolex sells watches for less than 10K. If a person really wants a Rolex thet can get one. It may take time & doing without other non esentials, but most don't have the discipline.
Jory, have you ever seen a Parnis in person? Listen, I get that you don't like homages and I get that homages aren't for everyone, but these things are pretty darn well built for around $100. I can't claim that their movements are anywhere near Swiss quality or even Seiko quality, but for $100 do they really need to be? I've had two of these watches for a while now and they're still keeping good time, they feel hefty and well built and they look great. I agree with everything you said about their lack of originality, but there is definitely a place in the watch community for a brand like Parnis and I don't think we should shame anyone who wants to wear one.
could not agree more i own a parnis gmt a fantastic looking watch for the money ,certainly offer great value for money compared to a lot of big swiss brands whose prices seem to go up weekley
I own Rolex, Breitling and many others. I also have a Parnis Panari marina militare homage watch. I paid $99 on Amazon for it. The power reserve is no where near correct, but the watch is built like a tank and looks great. I bought it after watching a How It's Made episode showing dozens of robots making Panari watches. I figured if Panari is going to use the same robots as Parnis to make a watch, then who am I to discriminate between the two. I would not hesitate to recommend Parnis to anyone who wants a mechanical watch. Think of Parnis as the gateway to watch collecting. Just like Patek Phillipe, Parnis and all mechanical watches are still 100x LESS accurate than a $5 quartz watch from Wal-Mart, but have a nicer case. I might someday put a $200 strap on my $100 watch to complete the illusion.
Matthew Sharpton I feel like some homages are acceptable, like seiko 62 mas homages or 6105 homages. Watches that are old, and yes seiko has remade them but in limited quantities and for prices most people cannot afford. I think it’s fine in that case to buy an homage. But at the end of the day it’s up to you what you buy and wear as long as you are happy.
I've got a sterile California Dial Panerai homage from Parnis. Hand wind Seagull movement, looks good through the exhibition back. It's surprisingly accurate. Great value.
The QC on their watches is weirdly good, from what I’ve seen. Like annoyingly good, in the sense that you can pick up a mechanical GMT with sapphire crystal, shockingly good machining, solid end links, etc, etc for like $60 on aliexpress and then wonder why companies like Seiko still expect us to accept that these things are extravagant luxuries unreasonable to expect for anything less than a grand.
thebikerkid6 sure, and I wouldn’t expect Seiko watches to sell for $60 because of that. I still think these Chinese watches demonstrate the degree to which things like solid end links or sapphire crystal should absolutely be standard and not the luxuries bigger companies pretend they are, though.
@@thebikerkid6 I would say as many others have not that when it comes to a brand such as Rolex you pay alot for the name. This is grossly underestimated. A ss Rolex is nothing special the price does not reflect quality at all. It's still a high quality piece but not 8k. Just the brand.
I recently pulled the trigger on 2 Parnis Chinese specials (Ebay)after many hours of browsing & somehow appear to have chosen the only 2 original designs that they do. A cream waffle dial 43mm dress monster (not my normal thing) & a vintage looking 42mm beige dial GMT (fully working 4th hand) with a date sub dial at 6. I believe the 43mm uses a Seagull movement & the GMT uses a Miyota, It took 9 days &
I bought a Marina Militare 40mm by Parnis (Panerai homage) about a year ago. I could not find any fault in it. The accuracy was phenomenal - +2 sec a day. A friend of mine loved it so much, he made me sell it to him. I could make a profit, but I sold it for the price I paid.
I own Parnis Daytona and all I can say is that the quality of the watch is great. QC is very good. It has Seikos Mecca Quartz movement. Only downside for me is the clasp. Other than that, it's all good! By the way, I have a large collection of watches (Citizen, Seiko, Casio, Certina, Tissot, Roamer, Longines, Omega, Hamilton, Festina, Swatch, Cortebert, Pagani, Paul Hewitt, Parnis, Esprit...) and I am watch enthusiast. Parnis is worth your money, IMO.
@@rickybobby6760 I just said that it is ok watch for the money. Sure, more expensive watches are better. Right now, I prefer Certina DS action Powermatic 80 diver. Great watch, and the movement is in the COSC range. For some strange reason, I really love Festina watches.
@@rickybobby6760 And by the way, I am not a rich guy, I have one vintage Omega and it is pretty fragile watch so I don't wear it that often. My most precious watch is Cortebert because my grandfather left me that watch. It is made from solid gold and it is over 60 years old. Working great to this day. Only one service for 60 years (about 10 years ago)!
@@rickybobby6760 Seiko Recraft is a good watch. My most expensive watch is around 900 US $. I was thinking to sell my entire collection and then I could buy Omega Seamaster Profesional and one Breitling or Panerai, but I just don't have a heart to sell my watches. I love them all, no matter their value.
While I agree with much of what you said in your Parnis rant, I was disappointed that you left out more of a review of the product itself. I own two Parnis watches. (Daytona and GMT), and both are good looking, well made, comfortable, well finished and highly accurate. I'm not fooling myself or anyone else into thinking I'm wearing a Rolex, nor am I trying to. I love the looks of those Rolex watches, but definitely will never own one; the Parnis gives me a good timepiece that I can wear with more pleasure than a fashion watch. Other comments point out that other homages get more respect, and ask why. Good question! I get the "lazy" point, but I'm buying the watch, not the website. I own seikos, citizens, bulovas orients and other brands...no problem having a Parnis in my collection. Thanks for your work on the vids...always entertaining and educational!
Most watch lovers are not willing to spend thousands of dollars on watches. But they acknowledg the superior design of flagship Swiss watches and would like to get the experience of having a copy on the wrist. That is all. I have the fleiger that resembles IWC. AS well as the Pepsi GMT. BOTH ARE fun to wear. And yet we enjoy keeping our money to ourselves to be spent on more important things .
I have had 3 different Parnis watches for about 8 years now. I find them to be well made, very accurate and although they are homage watches, I enjoy wearing them. Of course they are not in the same league as the watches they copy, but they seem to be a good deal. Mine have either Parnis on the dial, or a sterile dial, so they do not try to act like they're something they're not. Very happy with mine.
I have a parnis gmt master and I love it! It is not an exact copy because Rolex has not yet released a ceramic coke bezel. Which is what I have. So it's more of a "homage" than a direct copy. Gmt movement at that price is unbeatable. And at that price it's a fun beater and I don't care too much if I hit my hand against a wall or damage it by accident. When I buy a parnis, im not looking for heritage nor innovation. Im looking to for a watch with a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, and a Rolex look alike.
Somehow in your rant you failed to mention whether the actual product and customer service of Parnis is good or not. You're the guy that would drive by a (Hyundai) Genesis dealership and yell, "I won't buy one!! It's just a copy of other brands and doesn't cost enough!!!"
@@fawkesandhound why do you act like these companies are trying to compete with the real thing, offer me one 'original and muh integrity' watch company that offer better specs in the same price range
I think their goal with talking about Swiss watches isn't to say their stupid, but to lead their potential customers to feel the Swiss prices are unjustified, but they can get the same look and function for a fraction of the price with their watches. Just my opinion.
My guess is you don't like the "idea" of Parnis (or any homage watch) more than the actual timepieces themselves, which, I gather, you have never examined. Their Daytona chronos are excellent. You are kidding yourself if you think for just over $100 you are going to get Rolex quality in the item or the website but the value these watches offer is staggering. Except to the prissy ", I would NEVER wear a design that was copied". Of course, SUV's, toasters, and blue jeans are just fine. Spare me the B.S. outrage.
I have a Parnis the flieger type watch (which I think is the least "homage" of all their watches even though some people say its a homage of the IWC Pilot, but we all know that the flieger design was made specially for the German Airforce (luftwaffe) and that other brands like laco, stowa, A. Lange, made this watches). Yes, I am guilty... However, i decided to purchase this flieger Parnis because of the following reasons: 1) I wanted a flieger type watch but i am not "crazy" for the design so i didnt wanted to spend 800 dollars on a Stowa, nor did I wanted a quartz laco (which has a seiko movement); 2) the Parnis was mechanical and has a seagull movement with a display caseback which is decently decorated when you consider the price and; 3) the Price... 50 dollars, which for me, was a great solution because I only wanted a flieger type watch for my beater collection (and as I said, its not like Im crazy for the design, the size (44mm) or the brand and i wanted to put my money on my next purchase (an omega seamaster 300). That being said, yes, Parnis IS A HOMAGE COMPANY, and the worst part is that this Parnis Flieger i have is really... REALLY good quality. The build, the strap, the movement (seagull handwind movements are actually pretty good) even the lume is decent for only costing 50 bucks, Shit the leather strap even came with a deployment clasp, and if you ask me the build quality is on par with other watches i have that cost 500-800, so it really is frustrating because this means Parnis does have the ability to make good watches, they only need good original designs and they would become a really good microbrand!
Maybe it’s because if the “other guys” didn’t keep throwing away their hard earned $100s on these uninspired fakes, they’d eventually get the real thing.
Its not really throwing away the hundred if the watch works great and lasts. My parnis is still kicking and it has specs of watches 4 times the cost....and i can buy ten of them and not even come close to the cost of one original.
Brian Ball You’re right! And not everyone aspires to own a Rolex. For those and people who have other obligations, or simply couldn’t afford one, any of these watches is a viable option. To include INVICTA!
My white shirt threw off my camera’s ISO. most of my other episodes are a bit brighter. (I have three LED studio panels in the office so, lighting isn’t the issue)
Literally the only parnis watch I'd buy would be the black gmt with orange hand. All I've wanted was an automatic gmt, but they start at like $500+. Plus parnis has solid end links, threaded crowns, and a sapphire crystal.
Whops I have 2 Bliger and 1 Corgeut homages as well as Casios, Sekios, Orient and Clycine etc in my collection. For the money they are good watches. You can wear them with out the worry of getting damaged, which is what I wouldn't do if it was a genuine. Suggest you invest in one before you slag them off. You might find that the build quality for the price might surprise you.
Some guys don’t mind a Parnis on their wrist. Personally , I don’t like Parnis . If you like Parnis , that’s cool. I don’t discriminate. Put your Parnis wherever you like. You can stick your Parnis in a Winder , but I’d suggest keeping your Parnis in a box. You don’t want to wear out your Parnis. Lastly , if your Parnis starts to fail , definitely get it checked. Nobody likes a limp Parnis..
I agree with you on the fact that Parnis doesn't try to put their own style on their watches and instead do copy the high-end watch brands. However, when you talk about the cons of this company you also have to talk about the pros. They have several watches that have respectable movements such as a Miyota 8215, synthetic sapphire glass, and the aesthetics are quite nice. All of this for less than $100 if you buy them from websites such as Aliexpress or Ebay. I own one and am quite satisfied with it so far so in my opinion, they are a good value for money if you're not willing to spend thousands of dollars for the look of a high-end watch.
1 hour of Swiss wages is probably already worth more than the entire cost of producing the watch in China. That's immediately > 50% already. Or does it have to be 60% of the process steps involved?
here is Wikipedia: Most often associated with watches or timepieces made in Switzerland, a watch is considered Swiss if its movement is Swiss, if the movement has been assembled in the Swiss region, its final inspection occurred in Switzerland, and at least 60% of manufacturing costs are domestic.
Parnis is not a company, TT. It's just a collective of various watch manufacturers. However, I think you should next time actually have one of their timepieces before making an actual review. They are pretty easy to obtain. With that being said, their website clearly states that they are a homage watch maker so it's not like they are hiding anything
Swiss Made label isn't heavily regulated. Most Swiss companies take advantage of that. It's 60% of the value of the watch is "made" in Switzerland and the 40% can be made elsewhere. The 99% of the Swiss watch cases and bracelets are made else where and are written off as the 40% of the watches' value while the 60% of the value (could be just the movement) is "made" in Switzerland.
Isn't the movement supposed to be the most important part and what you would expect would have to be made in Switzerland for it to be a real Swiss watch.
I'm running a Parnis Pilot's watch PA2120 Seagull movement at +4 seconds a day which is at cocsc standards. Now it may be a homage to tbe IWC but it does say Parnis right at the top of the watch its also automatic and the movement decorated and clean . I have to say that I do know something about watches as I own Rolex Omega Heuer and Breitling. I just think that the Seagull movement is a fine movement, thanks for listening.
There is one thing these are good for though. Before you decide which expensive watch you want to buy just get one of these and see how the size and dimensions are to live with. I don't think any dealers are going to let you take a Submariner for a 1-2 month 'test drive' and often you really need to live with these things for a while. The world is full of people selling watches they realized they didn't like, or simply didn't work for them somehow. These are a good way of understanding different sizes and dimensions on wrist. All my watches are genuine by the way. I have about 70...mostly dive watches, Vostok's, Seiko's, Orient's, Suunto's, G-Shocks. At certain times, whilst living in Asia...I'd buy a copy for exactly this reason. Say what you like about the morals of it but there's no other way to understand the wearability.
So you hate micro brands doing rolex homages? How about company like Timex and Seiko making Casio homages like the steel 80s Casio digital LCD watches?
3:36 they say they dont like "swiss watches" in terms of their value. by copying their styles, they show that it shouldnt cost a lot for a great design. nice video btw
Those marketing gimmicks are definitely well... gimmicks. I had a shopify store and the " John just ordered [product] " is an app, and you can actually choose how often they show up with random names. The countdown timer is always fake, you set a random timeframe for it to start counting down from.
Hi Jory, do you consider Steinhart an homage brand? While they do have several Sub homage pieces they seem to offer various other designs. What’s your thoughts?
In an online watchmaking class I took the instructor had us work with a Parnis Flieger...huge and fairly cheap. He was very complementary of the movement. Since he has worked for JLC i found that really interesting
I don't like their blatant copies but their "kind of looks like a ..." models are actually kinda nice, I own two and I'm pretty happy with them. The movements are mostly Miyota 821x's or Seagull's. Parnis is definetely not a microbrand though.
Well they have good quality tho. They can press the cost because they dont have retail and direct selling. They are not affected by name, pride, 1000% price of original production cost by famous swiss brand
How are you complaining that these companies are doing as little as possible?what do you expect? They are copying 10000$ watches for 100$. Obviously they are trying to do as little as posible otherwise they can't make a profit for these prices
Parnis probably have figured out where all of these companies whose replicas they sell have their Chinese parts sourced and then assemble them themselves.
You are probably god damm right, looks and feels like it. I have “Marina Militare” watch , brand whose CEO sits in his office right across the table with the Parnis one, I believe. Ha, ha... Overall quality and time keeping is excellent and levels 10x more expensive pieces... 😃 Puts my Seikos in shame, I must say....(although I still love them 🤩)
Do have to give them credit for being blatantly honest about the fact they're making replicas of popular watches that's why they don't change the names .
You need to buy them directly from parnis website to get best possible quality and what's actually advertised. I have 2 tone president. Paid 180 on website. Real deal. Solid links, screw pins. Sapphire, screw down crown automatic. Parnis on dial. They make two different qualities. And they state that
I have three parnis, all fliegers . The finish is fantastic, excellent timekeeping and very reliable. Yes they may be copies but no way could l afford the real thing.Had a couple of comments of them all positive from friends with more expensive watches.
I have to say after 30 years of watch collecting being into watches I see no problem with Parnis at all. We all have a choice, buy a Seiko, Hamilton, Glycine, or a ton of other brands that all have their own identity, but to be honest the majority all echo each others appearance. The fact Parnis are giving the buyer a quality timepiece that looks great and that isn't a smart watch is keeping alive the tradition of watches instead of youth using their phones. Everyone has a budget.....just do not knock them for their choice, that is bad form.
There is a simple reason for the unimaginative naming: they cater for customers who search for homages. If you were searching for a nautilus homage, what search term would you enter into the search box? With their number of models, simply browsing through them all is not an option.
Parnis Daytona with Seiko hybrid movement is a quality piece. I would only give it more WR and it would be perfect. With a price about 80 $ its a great buy.
Here's what I think. I am interested in pulling a watch apart and rebuilding it. I'd rather do that with a $100 watch than a $10,000 watch. And homage watches aren't as bad as out and out fakes. Some of them like Steinhart (or so I am lead to believe) are built to a high standard and they don't pretend to be other than an homage. And one would think that homages would produce a downward force on costs all around. Which is a good reason for watch flippers to be pissed.
Isn’t it 60% of the value of the watch has to occurs in Swiss ? That means that all parts can comes from Asia and (due to high wages) few assemblies and finishing are enough for a watch to get the “made in Swiss” seal and aura ?
bought their power reserve recently and while it's a beautiful watch the QC is abysmal two of the numbers on mine's dial were lifted up so I had to open it up and push them back down thankfully I still had my watchmaking tools from my failed venture into the hobby so in the end I got a very decent watch for a pittance just with some TLC needed
I own a parnis homage, and it's a very good watch, looks great, extremely affordable and reliable, ok it's not a panerai, but it's comfortable to wear, and I like it👍
When I purchased my PAN Homage their website was very transparent with the details of what I was getting...316L stainless, sapphire crystal, miyota movement (hacks, hand winds, 21 jewel), and a leather band that feels great, soft, flexible with break-in, and a true sandwich style dial. Lume is excellent, goes the entire night. Watch is clearly branded Parnis with subtle differences from a genuine PAN and the movement is branded correctly as well.... keeps great time.
maybe if some cheap *ss tourist sports his Parnis "Patek" he will be robbed at gunpoint somewhere ... 🤓 if he just bought a Invicta he would be still alive and well 🤘
I have to say I was very interested in getting a kick ass Panerai but knowing that there are "companies" creating very similarly looking pieces at $100 bucks made me think twice about spending 6k... And sure, I know that the quality is not the same, nor are the movements, but is the actual difference 5900 dollars worth it? Not to me... This is probably why I like micros with their own kick ass and different designs (saw some Direnzos that looked nice, Vortic doing awesome with old pocket watch movements and dials, Aevig, Farer and to some extent, Damasko and Sinn...) That's just my opinion of course. So thanks to Parnis and others, although I haven't bought their watches, I avoided spending too much of my hard earned money... Go figure.
Hey the Parnis explorer is great . It can't be beat . I would never spend the money for a real Rolex . ( I have a Seiko sarbo35 and a Hamilton automatic )
OK, so their design and marketing practices are sleazy. No big surprise there. But it's true that their watches cost a few percent of the ones they knock off, so the question you didn't address is whether or not the actual watches they sell are any good. Kind of important.
An actual review of the product would be nice, I mean we all have things we hate that companies do, yet still like their product. Who likes the Rolex waitlist? Is it lazy that they don't open retail outlets and rely on a shitty AD system. Doesn't mean they have crappy watches. It would be nice if you got past the website and maybe looked at a piece or two. Just my two cents.
@@TheSilverDubberII Go for it, It's nice! I'm happy with mine. Interestingly, I noticed another set of "Daytonas" branded as "BoMax" on Ebay. They allegedly have automatic movements, but they resemble the real things more closely.
You have to give Parnis some credit... They're better at meeting supply and demand than Rolex...... But really... is there any company on the earth warsat meeting demands than Rolex?
You are right watched another RUclips video the guy in the video couldn't even get on a waiting list for a certain model Rolex because he wasn't a regular customer 😡
A watch is a watch. Does it really matter what naming conventions are used? There are obviously people buying Parnis watches (just ordered the cosmograph homage myself), so why are they going to deviate from their current naming strategy? Being a watch enthusiast, there aren't many of us out in the wild. No one (I hope) is going to strike up a convo with another watch wearer and then spend that opportunity insulting that person and their choices. It's taken me a while to learn this for myself, but I would rather see a stranger wearing A WATCH than for them to not be wearing one.
Own two, the Daytona and Datejust homages. Well made, accurate watches that I enjoy wearing. Rant on: Nobody I know cares that they’re homage watches. But then nobody I know cares about any of my non-homage brand watches either, so there’s that. Rant off 🤣
Say it with me everyone - buy a Seiko 5 for the sake of a legitimate watch from an excellent heritage. Less than 100 and you aren't trying to fool anyone, it stands on its own.
Mark Leshyk They’re great but not they are mainly small watches and the larger sizes are limited. Many people these days prefer larger, contemporary sized watches that are around 39-42mm.
Just received my Parnis, a Militaire 78, it's fabulous for the money, if it lasts just a few years, I'll be content. They sent the wrong watch but their service to replace it was excellent. It adds to my Hamilton, Tissot, Seiko, Vostok, Tevise, Guanqin & Starking, plus a range of blatant copies (Rolex, Frank Muller, Tag, Hublot, Breitling, Diesel) bought in Bangkok markets. So my watches cost me from $20 to $1000, they all look good, most of them work. I've decided that I prefer Quartz to mechanical, heresy on this forum, because when I pick them up to wear, they have the right time, day/date. The Hamilton I keep on a winder so its day/date complication stay correct. Other autos with day/date complications are a real nuisance to reset when out of power - Quartz solves that problem. Now looking at another Parnis, Pagani Design, Timex Indiglow and/Phoibus. I do appreciate the appeal of precision engineering in expensive watches (I run a Porsche) but for me, if a watch looks good, keeps reasonable time and is not too expensive, I'll buy it.
I just have an issue with the water resistance. That's the only thing I really look for because I like to actually live in my watches. I rarely take them off so that is something that is paramount for me.
I have an Parnis dive watch it looks great runs great has a sapphire crystal a ceramic Bezel a nice bracelet it was around 100 bucks what could be wrong with that?
I hate that brands like Rolex are made in short supply, and that people flip them for 4 times the price. Rolex are cool watches, but the prices are just totally overhyped. Quality costs, but paying for a logo is just stupid…
Jordy, as long as Rolex artificially manipulates supply there is going to be a market for people to buy homages. Great way to try out a watch and see if it sticks before spending a boatload of money on the real macoy. imho
I know there is a comment below about this, but it's my understanding that the rule is 60% of the value of the watch is swiss and I believe that includes "labor to assemble" costs. So it's very possible that you could have a watch that says "Swiss Made" and none of the parts are Swiss. I know there was some attempt to remedy this issue, but I never heard if the Swiss actually mad any changes.
![Felix "Unfair" | [Stray Kids : SKZ-PLAYER]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Oswujxm2Ag0/mqdefault.jpg)
Parnis don't have a R&D department: they have a colour photocopier instead.
And the copier was stolen from Seiko Epson Corp. 😂🤫
@@thetimeteller I'm reading this on an Epson projector wearing a Seiko 5 and eating parnis, I mean, pizza. Shit's weird.
Just One More Watch positive review:
ruclips.net/video/RUw5kQyDQDI/видео.html
I thought you love parnis watches Jody?
If Jory and Jody make a video appearance together, my worlds will colide!
Bashing a Chinese microbrand for being non original? How about Steinhart, and their woefully non original catalogue. But wait, they use more expensive parts and movements, so the watch snobs are gracious enough to give them a pass. Hypocrisy is the greatest luxury.
I hate homages... how can that be any more clear?
Also- I wear a seagull 1963, and last time I checked, that’s Chinese.
@@thetimeteller thanks for replying I appreciate it. On the subject of Homages, it's a business practice that's not only accepted in just about any other form of business, it's encouraged to promote healthy competition....which is exactly what the elitist Swiss brands don't want. I wonder why Rolex have never brought out a $500 watch?
@@thekingfisher3366 Because Rolex is not in the market of $500 watches. Plus they make everything(!) in-house, which means their production price is higher than $500. It has nothing to do with lack of competition
@@CharlieTangoAlfa so you're telling me that a company with the most advanced facilities and resources available is incapable of producing a watch that costs less than $10,000?? "Not in the $500 market"....entirely by their choosing to keep their product exclusive and unobtainable to most, thus ensuring the allure of luxury and status.
@@thekingfisher3366 Rolex makes a million watches per year. They're not unobtainable to most. Today, Rolex sells watches for less than 10K. If a person really wants a Rolex thet can get one. It may take time & doing without other non esentials, but most don't have the discipline.
I've bought a Parnis some years ago just out of curiosity.
Best purchase I've ever made, it still is my daily driver.
Jory, have you ever seen a Parnis in person? Listen, I get that you don't like homages and I get that homages aren't for everyone, but these things are pretty darn well built for around $100. I can't claim that their movements are anywhere near Swiss quality or even Seiko quality, but for $100 do they really need to be? I've had two of these watches for a while now and they're still keeping good time, they feel hefty and well built and they look great. I agree with everything you said about their lack of originality, but there is definitely a place in the watch community for a brand like Parnis and I don't think we should shame anyone who wants to wear one.
could not agree more i own a parnis gmt a fantastic looking watch for the money ,certainly offer great value for money compared to a lot of big swiss brands whose prices seem to go up weekley
Here, here....well said!
exactly! not everyone wants to pay thousands for the design they want.
I own Rolex, Breitling and many others. I also have a Parnis Panari marina militare homage watch. I paid $99 on Amazon for it. The power reserve is no where near correct, but the watch is built like a tank and looks great. I bought it after watching a How It's Made episode showing dozens of robots making Panari watches. I figured if Panari is going to use the same robots as Parnis to make a watch, then who am I to discriminate between the two. I would not hesitate to recommend Parnis to anyone who wants a mechanical watch. Think of Parnis as the gateway to watch collecting. Just like Patek Phillipe, Parnis and all mechanical watches are still 100x LESS accurate than a $5 quartz watch from Wal-Mart, but have a nicer case. I might someday put a $200 strap on my $100 watch to complete the illusion.
@@paulstanley8088 I do the same sir, expensive straps for Homage watches :) wear them in good health!
Trolls of the watch (snob) community. Well done, Parnis. Well done.
Well the sad part is that their quality is actually pretty good. Just shows how easy it is to copy these days
I feel you should review a Parnis and see what the quality is before you attack them, not everybody can afford Rolex, Patek or Tudor.
It’s fine if you can’t. But buy something that isn’t a blatant rip off.
Matthew Sharpton I feel like some homages are acceptable, like seiko 62 mas homages or 6105 homages. Watches that are old, and yes seiko has remade them but in limited quantities and for prices most people cannot afford. I think it’s fine in that case to buy an homage. But at the end of the day it’s up to you what you buy and wear as long as you are happy.
fake watches are tasteless
@@matthewsharpton9256 all the other 'original watches' on this price range have trash tier specs
@@s2001-q9g watches that don't have good specs under 100 dollars is trash
I've got a sterile California Dial Panerai homage from Parnis. Hand wind Seagull movement, looks good through the exhibition back. It's surprisingly accurate. Great value.
Yeah they aint too bad at all
@@gazzertrn they are ok...
The QC on their watches is weirdly good, from what I’ve seen. Like annoyingly good, in the sense that you can pick up a mechanical GMT with sapphire crystal, shockingly good machining, solid end links, etc, etc for like $60 on aliexpress and then wonder why companies like Seiko still expect us to accept that these things are extravagant luxuries unreasonable to expect for anything less than a grand.
Nick Rudolph well they dont use a penny on development, design, and manny other things like Seiko so there you have it
@@thebikerkid6 pretty sure they just produce homages
And of cause you pay some money fore the name of the watch
thebikerkid6 sure, and I wouldn’t expect Seiko watches to sell for $60 because of that. I still think these Chinese watches demonstrate the degree to which things like solid end links or sapphire crystal should absolutely be standard and not the luxuries bigger companies pretend they are, though.
@@thebikerkid6 I would say as many others have not that when it comes to a brand such as Rolex you pay alot for the name. This is grossly underestimated. A ss Rolex is nothing special the price does not reflect quality at all. It's still a high quality piece but not 8k. Just the brand.
I recently pulled the trigger on 2 Parnis Chinese specials (Ebay)after many hours of browsing & somehow appear to have chosen the only 2 original designs that they do. A cream waffle dial 43mm dress monster (not my normal thing) & a vintage looking 42mm beige dial GMT (fully working 4th hand) with a date sub dial at 6. I believe the 43mm uses a Seagull movement & the GMT uses a Miyota, It took 9 days &
Nooooo Ive had my Parnis Sub for 4 years of beatings and water adventures and it is still amazing
I bought a Marina Militare 40mm by Parnis (Panerai homage) about a year ago. I could not find any fault in it. The accuracy was phenomenal - +2 sec a day. A friend of mine loved it so much, he made me sell it to him. I could make a profit, but I sold it for the price I paid.
Parnis is NOT a microbrand. 2100+ pieces? Really?😂
I own Parnis Daytona and all I can say is that the quality of the watch is great. QC is very good. It has Seikos Mecca Quartz movement. Only downside for me is the clasp. Other than that, it's all good! By the way, I have a large collection of watches (Citizen, Seiko, Casio, Certina, Tissot, Roamer, Longines, Omega, Hamilton, Festina, Swatch, Cortebert, Pagani, Paul Hewitt, Parnis, Esprit...) and I am watch enthusiast. Parnis is worth your money, IMO.
Very true. I absolutely love my Parnis.
@@rickybobby6760 I just said that it is ok watch for the money. Sure, more expensive watches are better. Right now, I prefer Certina DS action Powermatic 80 diver. Great watch, and the movement is in the COSC range. For some strange reason, I really love Festina watches.
@@rickybobby6760 And by the way, I am not a rich guy, I have one vintage Omega and it is pretty fragile watch so I don't wear it that often. My most precious watch is Cortebert because my grandfather left me that watch. It is made from solid gold and it is over 60 years old. Working great to this day. Only one service for 60 years (about 10 years ago)!
@@rickybobby6760 Seiko Recraft is a good watch. My most expensive watch is around 900 US $. I was thinking to sell my entire collection and then I could buy Omega Seamaster Profesional and one Breitling or Panerai, but I just don't have a heart to sell my watches. I love them all, no matter their value.
Spot on about the Parnis Daytona. Great watch but the clasp isn’t.
Steinheart, gevril, alpha and many other do the same thing, but everybody seems to like them. What’s the difference?
They are more expensive :)
TailsFromThePast exactly, it’s makes no sense the parnis submariner is just the same as the steinhart, but the steinhart is 1k and everybody praise it
@@edoardof906 Steinhart uses ETA movements at least
I couldn't agree more. He already has prejudice on the brand.
You are right, also think about it, orient and citizen watches costs double parnis, yet they dont have sapphire, no seconds hacking
While I agree with much of what you said in your Parnis rant, I was disappointed that you left out more of a review of the product itself. I own two Parnis watches. (Daytona and GMT), and both are good looking, well made, comfortable, well finished and highly accurate. I'm not fooling myself or anyone else into thinking I'm wearing a Rolex, nor am I trying to. I love the looks of those Rolex watches, but definitely will never own one; the Parnis gives me a good timepiece that I can wear with more pleasure than a fashion watch. Other comments point out that other homages get more respect, and ask why. Good question! I get the "lazy" point, but I'm buying the watch, not the website. I own seikos, citizens, bulovas orients and other brands...no problem having a Parnis in my collection. Thanks for your work on the vids...always entertaining and educational!
Bang on, sir!
Umm... Parnis isn't a microbrand. Not even a company really. More like a loose collection of workshops.
That is correct! Parnis is a "federation" of watch factories, all selling under the same brand.
Most watch lovers are not willing to spend thousands of dollars on watches. But they acknowledg the superior design of flagship Swiss watches and would like to get the experience of having a copy on the wrist. That is all.
I have the fleiger that resembles IWC. AS well as the Pepsi GMT. BOTH ARE fun to wear. And yet we enjoy keeping our money to ourselves to be spent on more important things .
I have had 3 different Parnis watches for about 8 years now. I find them to be well made, very accurate and although they are homage watches, I enjoy wearing them.
Of course they are not in the same league as the watches they copy, but they seem to be a good deal. Mine have either Parnis on the dial, or a sterile dial, so they do not try to act like they're something they're not.
Very happy with mine.
I have a parnis gmt master and I love it! It is not an exact copy because Rolex has not yet released a ceramic coke bezel. Which is what I have. So it's more of a "homage" than a direct copy.
Gmt movement at that price is unbeatable. And at that price it's a fun beater and I don't care too much if I hit my hand against a wall or damage it by accident. When I buy a parnis, im not looking for heritage nor innovation. Im looking to for a watch with a ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, and a Rolex look alike.
I own a Batman Parnis, Invicta Pro Diver, and a Steinhart OVM. What model of Shinola do you recommend T3?
Somehow in your rant you failed to mention whether the actual product and customer service of Parnis is good or not. You're the guy that would drive by a (Hyundai) Genesis dealership and yell, "I won't buy one!! It's just a copy of other brands and doesn't cost enough!!!"
Why don't you simply evaluate the quality of the actual watch?
He probably doesn't have one. 😊
Because he’s talking about design philosophy and having some goddamn integrity.
@@fawkesandhound why do you act like these companies are trying to compete with the real thing, offer me one 'original and muh integrity' watch company that offer better specs in the same price range
@@fawkesandhoundclown comment
I have a Parnis Luminor titanium with a Seagull auto movement. I've had no problems with it for 14 years.
I think their goal with talking about Swiss watches isn't to say their stupid, but to lead their potential customers to feel the Swiss prices are unjustified, but they can get the same look and function for a fraction of the price with their watches. Just my opinion.
Isn't the Rolex Daytona an homage to the Zenith El Primero? Or the Heuer, Hamilton, Breitling, Dubois Depraz partnership?
Who cares......I love Parnis, several in my collection, good quality for the price, I like your videos but I also like Parnis.
You care.
🤣🤣🤣
@@thetimeteller Boy are you salty.
I do have a small love for Parnis. If you want to put a watch together from eBay parts, they really do have a lot of Parnis parts for sale.
Daytona homage have Seiko mecaquartz movements (VK63 / 64).
And it’s one of the most accurate quartz movements I’ve ever owned.
My guess is you don't like the "idea" of Parnis (or any homage watch) more than the actual timepieces themselves, which, I gather, you have never examined. Their Daytona chronos are excellent. You are kidding yourself if you think for just over $100 you are going to get Rolex quality in the item or the website but the value these watches offer is staggering. Except to the prissy ", I would NEVER wear a design that was copied". Of course, SUV's, toasters, and blue jeans are just fine. Spare me the B.S. outrage.
I have a Parnis the flieger type watch (which I think is the least "homage" of all their watches even though some people say its a homage of the IWC Pilot, but we all know that the flieger design was made specially for the German Airforce (luftwaffe) and that other brands like laco, stowa, A. Lange, made this watches). Yes, I am guilty... However, i decided to purchase this flieger Parnis because of the following reasons: 1) I wanted a flieger type watch but i am not "crazy" for the design so i didnt wanted to spend 800 dollars on a Stowa, nor did I wanted a quartz laco (which has a seiko movement); 2) the Parnis was mechanical and has a seagull movement with a display caseback which is decently decorated when you consider the price and; 3) the Price... 50 dollars, which for me, was a great solution because I only wanted a flieger type watch for my beater collection (and as I said, its not like Im crazy for the design, the size (44mm) or the brand and i wanted to put my money on my next purchase (an omega seamaster 300). That being said, yes, Parnis IS A HOMAGE COMPANY, and the worst part is that this Parnis Flieger i have is really... REALLY good quality. The build, the strap, the movement (seagull handwind movements are actually pretty good) even the lume is decent for only costing 50 bucks, Shit the leather strap even came with a deployment clasp, and if you ask me the build quality is on par with other watches i have that cost 500-800, so it really is frustrating because this means Parnis does have the ability to make good watches, they only need good original designs and they would become a really good microbrand!
People get so fired up about homages! Maybe it's because other guys are sporting the same aesthetic as your Rolex for $100. How dare they?!?
Maybe it’s because if the “other guys” didn’t keep throwing away their hard earned $100s on these uninspired fakes, they’d eventually get the real thing.
The Time Teller True. Perhaps they could save up 50 times that for one watch. Excellent point oh wise and powerful Time Teller.
Its not really throwing away the hundred if the watch works great and lasts. My parnis is still kicking and it has specs of watches 4 times the cost....and i can buy ten of them and not even come close to the cost of one original.
Brian Ball You’re right! And not everyone aspires to own a Rolex. For those and people who have other obligations, or simply couldn’t afford one, any of these watches is a viable option. To include INVICTA!
Jory I love you but please please get some proper studio lighting
My white shirt threw off my camera’s ISO. most of my other episodes are a bit brighter. (I have three LED studio panels in the office so, lighting isn’t the issue)
Literally the only parnis watch I'd buy would be the black gmt with orange hand. All I've wanted was an automatic gmt, but they start at like $500+. Plus parnis has solid end links, threaded crowns, and a sapphire crystal.
Whops I have 2 Bliger and 1 Corgeut homages as well as Casios, Sekios, Orient and Clycine etc in my collection. For the money they are good watches. You can wear them with out the worry of getting damaged, which is what I wouldn't do if it was a genuine. Suggest you invest in one before you slag them off. You might find that the build quality for the price might surprise you.
He's too much of a snob to buy one and actually do a review. The slime seller is the snobbiest of the watch snobs on you tube.
Man, that’s actually one of the more clever things someone’s called me. Props, El Cheapo!
Definitely want one now. Maybe the GMT Jody reviewed, or that mad Expedition.
You sound exactly like someone that never held a Parnis in their life
Some guys don’t mind a Parnis on their wrist. Personally , I don’t like Parnis . If you like Parnis , that’s cool. I don’t discriminate. Put your Parnis wherever you like. You can stick your Parnis in a Winder , but I’d suggest keeping your Parnis in a box. You don’t want to wear out your Parnis. Lastly , if your Parnis starts to fail , definitely get it checked. Nobody likes a limp Parnis..
I agree with you on the fact that Parnis doesn't try to put their own style on their watches and instead do copy the high-end watch brands. However, when you talk about the cons of this company you also have to talk about the pros. They have several watches that have respectable movements such as a Miyota 8215, synthetic sapphire glass, and the aesthetics are quite nice. All of this for less than $100 if you buy them from websites such as Aliexpress or Ebay. I own one and am quite satisfied with it so far so in my opinion, they are a good value for money if you're not willing to spend thousands of dollars for the look of a high-end watch.
Wearing a Steinhart homage watch right now. I'll never get a rolex gmt master pepsi but this Steinhart works for me.
oh gee I see you everywhere lol
@@edmund8954 just on the watch nerd channels lol
I have a parnis, a copy it may be hut it keeps excellent time and looks great. I enjoy it alot
Thank you for this video, it really clarifies what you are.
👍👍👍👍
I,ve had a titanium cased, Seagull auto movt, Panerai Luminor from Parnis for 16 years without a fault. So, raspberries to you mate.
16 years? You saw the truth before all of RUclips 🙆♂️. That seagull movement has lasted that long?
1 hour of Swiss wages is probably already worth more than the entire cost of producing the watch in China. That's immediately > 50% already. Or does it have to be 60% of the process steps involved?
It's actually 60% of the value has to come from Switzerland. It's a really strange setup to me
here is Wikipedia: Most often associated with watches or timepieces made in Switzerland, a watch is considered Swiss if its movement is Swiss, if the movement has been assembled in the Swiss region, its final inspection occurred in Switzerland, and at least 60% of manufacturing costs are domestic.
Parnis is not a company, TT. It's just a collective of various watch manufacturers. However, I think you should next time actually have one of their timepieces before making an actual review. They are pretty easy to obtain. With that being said, their website clearly states that they are a homage watch maker so it's not like they are hiding anything
Swiss Made label isn't heavily regulated.
Most Swiss companies take advantage of that. It's 60% of the value of the watch is "made" in Switzerland and the 40% can be made elsewhere.
The 99% of the Swiss watch cases and bracelets are made else where and are written off as the 40% of the watches' value while the 60% of the value (could be just the movement) is "made" in Switzerland.
Isn't the movement supposed to be the most important part and what you would expect would have to be made in Switzerland for it to be a real Swiss watch.
I'm running a Parnis Pilot's watch PA2120 Seagull movement at +4 seconds a day which is at cocsc standards. Now it may be a homage to tbe IWC but it does say Parnis right at the top of the watch its also automatic and the movement decorated and clean . I have to say that I do know something about watches as I own Rolex Omega Heuer and Breitling. I just think that the Seagull movement is a fine movement, thanks for listening.
So basically just a Watch Snob rant.
There is one thing these are good for though. Before you decide which expensive watch you want to buy just get one of these and see how the size and dimensions are to live with. I don't think any dealers are going to let you take a Submariner for a 1-2 month 'test drive' and often you really need to live with these things for a while. The world is full of people selling watches they realized they didn't like, or simply didn't work for them somehow. These are a good way of understanding different sizes and dimensions on wrist. All my watches are genuine by the way. I have about 70...mostly dive watches, Vostok's, Seiko's, Orient's, Suunto's, G-Shocks. At certain times, whilst living in Asia...I'd buy a copy for exactly this reason. Say what you like about the morals of it but there's no other way to understand the wearability.
So you hate micro brands doing rolex homages? How about company like Timex and Seiko making Casio homages like the steel 80s Casio digital LCD watches?
3:36 they say they dont like "swiss watches" in terms of their value. by copying their styles, they show that it shouldnt cost a lot for a great design. nice video btw
Those marketing gimmicks are definitely well... gimmicks. I had a shopify store and the " John just ordered [product] " is an app, and you can actually choose how often they show up with random names. The countdown timer is always fake, you set a random timeframe for it to start counting down from.
Hi Jory, do you consider Steinhart an homage brand? While they do have several Sub homage pieces they seem to offer various other designs. What’s your thoughts?
In an online watchmaking class I took the instructor had us work with a Parnis Flieger...huge and fairly cheap. He was very complementary of the movement. Since he has worked for JLC i found that really interesting
I don't like their blatant copies but their "kind of looks like a ..." models are actually kinda nice, I own two and I'm pretty happy with them. The movements are mostly Miyota 821x's or Seagull's. Parnis is definetely not a microbrand though.
Overacting, or what?
As always
My pagani is pretty epic 🤷🏾♀️
Buy one. Compare to the real deal.
Nick P. Easier to get a $150 watch than a $5000
Jody can get his hands in a few original models, can’t he?
Well they have good quality tho. They can press the cost because they dont have retail and direct selling. They are not affected by name, pride, 1000% price of original production cost by famous swiss brand
How are you complaining that these companies are doing as little as possible?what do you expect? They are copying 10000$ watches for 100$. Obviously they are trying to do as little as posible otherwise they can't make a profit for these prices
Parnis probably have figured out where all of these companies whose replicas they sell have their Chinese parts sourced and then assemble them themselves.
You are probably god damm right, looks and feels like it. I have “Marina Militare” watch , brand whose CEO sits in his office right across the table with the Parnis one, I believe. Ha, ha...
Overall quality and time keeping is excellent and levels 10x more expensive pieces... 😃
Puts my Seikos in shame, I must say....(although I still love them 🤩)
Do have to give them credit for being blatantly honest about the fact they're making replicas of popular watches that's why they don't change the names .
Free market economy. You spend your money, I'll spend mine.
Is there a reason the watches are a 3rd of the price more expensive via Parnis's website compared to Aliexpress?
You need to buy them directly from parnis website to get best possible quality and what's actually advertised. I have 2 tone president. Paid 180 on website. Real deal. Solid links, screw pins. Sapphire, screw down crown automatic. Parnis on dial. They make two different qualities. And they state that
I have three parnis, all fliegers . The finish is fantastic, excellent timekeeping and very reliable. Yes they may be copies but no way could l afford the real thing.Had a couple of comments of them all positive from friends with more expensive watches.
They are great value for money,
I have to say after 30 years of watch collecting being into watches I see no problem with Parnis at all. We all have a choice, buy a Seiko, Hamilton, Glycine, or a ton of other brands that all have their own identity, but to be honest the majority all echo each others appearance.
The fact Parnis are giving the buyer a quality timepiece that looks great and that isn't a smart watch is keeping alive the tradition of watches instead of youth using their phones.
Everyone has a budget.....just do not knock them for their choice, that is bad form.
There is a simple reason for the unimaginative naming: they cater for customers who search for homages. If you were searching for a nautilus homage, what search term would you enter into the search box? With their number of models, simply browsing through them all is not an option.
Yes they are copying but great for people who want a luxury watch look but can’t afford luxury watch prices.
WAHT DO U THINK ABOUT SKAGEN, AKRIBOS & NIXON WATCHES???
Crap!
Parnis Daytona with Seiko hybrid movement is a quality piece. I would only give it more WR and it would be perfect. With a price about 80 $ its a great buy.
Wonder how many Parnis watches he just sold.
Here's what I think. I am interested in pulling a watch apart and rebuilding it. I'd rather do that with a $100 watch than a $10,000 watch. And homage watches aren't as bad as out and out fakes. Some of them like Steinhart (or so I am lead to believe) are built to a high standard and they don't pretend to be other than an homage. And one would think that homages would produce a downward force on costs all around. Which is a good reason for watch flippers to be pissed.
Isn’t it 60% of the value of the watch has to occurs in Swiss ? That means that all parts can comes from Asia and (due to high wages) few assemblies and finishing are enough for a watch to get the “made in Swiss” seal and aura ?
bought their power reserve recently and while it's a beautiful watch the QC is abysmal two of the numbers on mine's dial were lifted up so I had to open it up and push them back down thankfully I still had my watchmaking tools from my failed venture into the hobby so in the end I got a very decent watch for a pittance just with some TLC needed
I own a parnis homage, and it's a very good watch, looks great, extremely affordable and reliable, ok it's not a panerai, but it's comfortable to wear, and I like it👍
When I purchased my PAN Homage their website was very transparent with the details of what I was getting...316L stainless, sapphire crystal, miyota movement (hacks, hand winds, 21 jewel), and a leather band that feels great, soft, flexible with break-in, and a true sandwich style dial. Lume is excellent, goes the entire night. Watch is clearly branded Parnis with subtle differences from a genuine PAN and the movement is branded correctly as well.... keeps great time.
maybe if some cheap *ss tourist sports his Parnis "Patek"
he will be robbed at gunpoint somewhere ... 🤓
if he just bought a Invicta he would be still alive and well 🤘
Doubtful. The average street thug wouldn’t know a Patek if it bit him in the a$$. But an Invicta? That’s a watch with real street cred! 🤣
I have to say I was very interested in getting a kick ass Panerai but knowing that there are "companies" creating very similarly looking pieces at $100 bucks made me think twice about spending 6k... And sure, I know that the quality is not the same, nor are the movements, but is the actual difference 5900 dollars worth it? Not to me... This is probably why I like micros with their own kick ass and different designs (saw some Direnzos that looked nice, Vortic doing awesome with old pocket watch movements and dials, Aevig, Farer and to some extent, Damasko and Sinn...) That's just my opinion of course. So thanks to Parnis and others, although I haven't bought their watches, I avoided spending too much of my hard earned money... Go figure.
Hey the Parnis explorer is great . It can't be beat . I would never spend the money for a real Rolex . ( I have a Seiko sarbo35 and a Hamilton automatic )
You negatively reviewed a counterfeit site of an homage company. Priceless.
OK, so their design and marketing practices are sleazy. No big surprise there. But it's true that their watches cost a few percent of the ones they knock off, so the question you didn't address is whether or not the actual watches they sell are any good. Kind of important.
John Desmond the name parnis is reason enough not to buy them
An actual review of the product would be nice, I mean we all have things we hate that companies do, yet still like their product. Who likes the Rolex waitlist? Is it lazy that they don't open retail outlets and rely on a shitty AD system. Doesn't mean they have crappy watches. It would be nice if you got past the website and maybe looked at a piece or two. Just my two cents.
Fair points, but mine are...decent. Hell, their ice blue "Daytona" mecha-quartz is as close as I'm gonna get to the real deal!
I have the white dial and would love the ice blue one now! 🤣
@@TheSilverDubberII Go for it, It's nice! I'm happy with mine. Interestingly, I noticed another set of "Daytonas" branded as "BoMax" on Ebay. They allegedly have automatic movements, but they resemble the real things more closely.
You have to give Parnis some credit... They're better at meeting supply and demand than Rolex...... But really... is there any company on the earth warsat meeting demands than Rolex?
You are right watched another RUclips video the guy in the video couldn't even get on a waiting list for a certain model Rolex because he wasn't a regular customer 😡
A watch is a watch. Does it really matter what naming conventions are used? There are obviously people buying Parnis watches (just ordered the cosmograph homage myself), so why are they going to deviate from their current naming strategy? Being a watch enthusiast, there aren't many of us out in the wild. No one (I hope) is going to strike up a convo with another watch wearer and then spend that opportunity insulting that person and their choices. It's taken me a while to learn this for myself, but I would rather see a stranger wearing A WATCH than for them to not be wearing one.
Which do you dislike less, Parnis or Evicta?
Honestly, Invicta. As ugly as they are- at least Invicta has a lot of original designs.
I heard that
Own two, the Daytona and Datejust homages. Well made, accurate watches that I enjoy wearing. Rant on: Nobody I know cares that they’re homage watches. But then nobody I know cares about any of my non-homage brand watches either, so there’s that. Rant off 🤣
Say it with me everyone - buy a Seiko 5 for the sake of a legitimate watch from an excellent heritage. Less than 100 and you aren't trying to fool anyone, it stands on its own.
Mark Leshyk They’re great but not they are mainly small watches and the larger sizes are limited. Many people these days prefer larger, contemporary sized watches that are around 39-42mm.
Just received my Parnis, a Militaire 78, it's fabulous for the money, if it lasts just a few years, I'll be content. They sent the wrong watch but their service to replace it was excellent. It adds to my Hamilton, Tissot, Seiko, Vostok, Tevise, Guanqin & Starking, plus a range of blatant copies (Rolex, Frank Muller, Tag, Hublot, Breitling, Diesel) bought in Bangkok markets. So my watches cost me from $20 to $1000, they all look good, most of them work. I've decided that I prefer Quartz to mechanical, heresy on this forum, because when I pick them up to wear, they have the right time, day/date. The Hamilton I keep on a winder so its day/date complication stay correct. Other autos with day/date complications are a real nuisance to reset when out of power - Quartz solves that problem. Now looking at another Parnis, Pagani Design, Timex Indiglow and/Phoibus. I do appreciate the appeal of precision engineering in expensive watches (I run a Porsche) but for me, if a watch looks good, keeps reasonable time and is not too expensive, I'll buy it.
I just have an issue with the water resistance. That's the only thing I really look for because I like to actually live in my watches. I rarely take them off so that is something that is paramount for me.
I’ll bet some of the Parnis Panerai homages are more robust than the Panerais themselves!
I’m going to start a review and unboxing RUclips channel. I’ll just use pictures no need for products
Thank you but I absolutely love both my parnis watches 😊😊
I have an Parnis dive watch it looks great runs great has a sapphire crystal a ceramic Bezel a nice bracelet it was around 100 bucks what could be wrong with that?
I hate that brands like Rolex are made in short supply, and that people flip them for 4 times the price. Rolex are cool watches, but the prices are just totally overhyped.
Quality costs, but paying for a logo is just stupid…
Jordy, as long as Rolex artificially manipulates supply there is going to be a market for people to buy homages. Great way to try out a watch and see if it sticks before spending a boatload of money on the real macoy. imho
Don’t let my inner watch snob out. I will never ever ever ever buy a copy of an iconic Swiss watch.
I know there is a comment below about this, but it's my understanding that the rule is 60% of the value of the watch is swiss and I believe that includes "labor to assemble" costs. So it's very possible that you could have a watch that says "Swiss Made" and none of the parts are Swiss. I know there was some attempt to remedy this issue, but I never heard if the Swiss actually mad any changes.