It’s a crime that your channel isn’t much more prominent in the sea of misinformation about cognitive theory. It speaks volumes about the current “fast food” state of typology though.
This guy is interesting, I have seen 3 versions of him with variants of each I. goatee + short hair + beard (very direct and stoic) II. Long loose hair + no beard + no glasses (seemingly self conscious yet sarcastic ) III. This version long tied hair + full beard + no glasses (Friendly personable tone and laid back). When the glasses are on and the hair is short and combed he has a direct and fast delivery , when the hair is loose and free and the glasses are off he tends to take his time and sound more natural freestyle. he must be some kind of intuitive feeling or transformative types constantly reinventing himself inwardly and living it out for a time. Just something I couldn't help but notice otherwise great content, his explanations make a lot more sense than the cartoonish stereotypes all over the community.
You are the only 16 personality types channel on RUclips (that I know of) that actually makes sense and has a logical/scientific approach to this. I love how you go for Jung’s original works to inform your understanding instead of using popular internet oversimplifications that make MBTI into some sort of new personality horoscope. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like discussing that topic anymore - it seems like most people ignore how complicated and fluid human psyche truly is. Personally, I see MBTI as the most sensible personality system out there but it doesn’t mean it’s always a perfect representation of human inner workings - but then again, can any personality system be perfect? It’d probably have to be overcomplicated and detailed to an ungodly degree to describe each person’s cognitive biases. And probably even then it wouldn’t be actually perfect since we’re all unique, I believe. Anyway, enough of my ramblings; I’m struggling to gauge whether I’m an INTP or an INFJ (the convergent Ti and divergent Fe present in both makes me unsure, unfortunately. I’m not that great at noticing my own personality so to speak, though I’m sure I fall into the Ti/Fe bracket), are you perhaps planning a video on the topic, or mayhap have any tips for a struggling fan? ^^
You're so right about channels who use stereotypes and ones who look deep into the theory and treat it systematically. I'd say mine's in the middle but trying to get more systematic and logical and avoid biases and stereotypes too much. MBTI is the best simplification I've found too! As an INTJ I've liked the being able to simplify everything into the functions then play around with it in my head and draw connections and apply them to the real world. I wonder if you're an INFJ you'd experience a similar thing. Yeah your Ti will be intense with either so maybe trying looking at Si. Are you really irrational and petty about certain Sensory things and routines (Si child) or do you actively enjoy going against sensory stuff and couldn't imagine having little routines (Si demon) Hope this helps! Yeah a video on this topic would be cool
This is great for explaining the practical functionality of each dominant pairing and really helps me to further understand the difference between each variant of the dominant functions. We're definitely going to need a part 2 for how the pairings show up when rendered divergent!
I usually score INFP in tests and it makes a sort of sense because I'm overall described by others as a detached, calm and peaceful person. But when I started to make cognitive functions tests only I consistently started to score Fi-Ni, and CPT was essential for me to understand myself as an ISFP. I strongly relate with this type, althought I feel I will never be capable to pinpoint if this is what I really am in reality, haha But I must say that seeing the explanation of Te-Se clarified even more my ISFP typing, because this is what I strive in a certain way: objectiveness and something meaningful to be act upon. But this more of an idealisation, extremely hard to put in practice consistently. Amazing work Harry, thanks a lot :)
Greetings. Your content has enriched my life, Harry. I learn lots of new words and principles from this channel, and I really appreciate your effort. I cite you as the best mbti youtuber all the time. BUT Please give us the ESTJ video and/or bring back fantasy typology (the hobbit etc)
Harry I loved your elucidation of FeSe as 'synchronisation' indeed I am a mental health practitioner and this convergent pairing really does come in handy. I think a lot of people often miss the point in seeing us as people pleasers when in fact our TiNi is very adept at figuring out what the person needs & what the situation needs for a desired outcome. We can be very strategic in that regard; it's hardly as if FeSe convergence is synchronising 'just because', we always have multiple contingencies in place, thinking multiple steps ahead. I'd like to think that as I have a very fluid axis (Fe50/Ti50 as rates by yourself) this makes the pairing even more adept as we require a degree of FeSe divergence in under to truly perceive a persons potential motives/desires/what frameworks they're utilising. I've began to understand the utility of FeSe+ in conveying my more 'out there' TiNi convergence anyhow. Sometimes how you convey something and getting on the same wavelength is just as important as that which you're trying to convey else how do you expect people to listen & have an impact?
I feel like I'm gonna use this video many times in the future, since it's a great summary of the main characteristics we can see in the personalities. I particularly enjoyed the differences between ESTP and ENTP's charisma and humor you explained, it's clearer to me now. Great video, Harry!
At this point I’m convinced I’ll never truly find my type on my own so I promise I’ll get a type service someday it’s not the right time now but I look forward to that now hypothetical day with joy and nervousness unending in my quest to find my type and also just learn more about me as well as the human brain in the process. CPT has always stood out as more scientifically based than other MBTI systems. I just realized I sound like a stereotypical INFP writing this but I feel like I’m more in Ti-Fe than Fi-Te. Yet tomorrow shall bring me to new ideas and conclusions. Thank you so much for having this!
Great Video as always! as an INTJ, I think your descriptions and examples of Convergent NiFi is spot on, I can mostly understand and relate to it. I can't help but smile 😂 especially when you say "NiFi alone is hard to pin point because it's the absence of something rather than the presence of something". Very relatable and in some sense it's kinda the strength of NiFi for me because that is what makes the archetype is kind of general and loose and easier for self transformation in the first place. I like the fact that you put NiFi last and tried your best to explain it as clearly as possible even tho it's kinda difficult, haha... 😂
@@animeverse9512 It's complicated but I'll try to make it simple. Basically, when NiFi is in action, it has no manifestation in the outside world (no action,effect,etc. visible in the outside) It's mostly happened in the mind, others can't simply pin point what it is or when it is used and happened, hence the absence of something. Only The INTJ themselves know what it is when it comes to NiFi values, interest, goals etc... that's why Harry generalized what it would looks like, or what it could be. When you see an INTJ in real life, what you're going to see most of the time is their SeTe in action, hence the presence of something like for example someone who's very focused in a single task, or very efficient when doing a certain task (action,effect,etc. visible in the outside world). There's no inferior function in CPT. NiFi is the dominant/convergent functions and SeTe is the oppositional/divergent functions.
Harry it's so cool that you're doing CPT and cognitive functions overall from the perspective of a mindful mind. It's no surprise to me as I've found Nx-doms to be the most likely types overall to get to this level. But it's great to analyze the functions from this vantage point and in some sense it's a natural progression to individuation. I think that's what Jung also had in mind when coming up with this stuff. Great work and keep up.
Great analysis, I was thinking for a long time I was an introverted type, but watching those types of videos and actually understanding, what introversion truly is, I was never really a truly introverted person, cause majority of my life I'm a person of constant action/research-process/extremely purposeful, yet very private and seclusive, more of an ENTJ From all of those pairings, Te-Se was the most accurate for me, cause literally that's what I'm constantly doing, I can't imagine myself without acheiving something and I'm definitely not a workaholic at all, that's just what I do and what I'm excel at. On the other side, I can't really go like extremely deep into myself and constantly reflect upon some things, cause I just find this process kind of useless, nothing will change if you're gonna just sit and think about future and what it COULD be instead of just doing something, and it even surprises me often, when people are amazed by my rationality/common sense, cause in my opinion I'm not really that great (probably oppositional Fi tricks), and, from what I've noticed, dislike Ti process, just all of this purely academical kind of approach which is really widespread in scientifical field, never was my forte nor I was interested in it Se is mostly used for kind of relaxing/as an agency function within Te-Se pairing, at least I can feel it like that, it's not obligating me doing anything, but it greatly helps with focusing on important tasks, my concentration was always incredible, since I was a child
TiNi is Frogger, hopping from one leaf to another to get across the pond. NiTi is Tom Bombadil, creating an ethereal world, encompassing all of reality within it and using this confident energy to somehow fluidly navigate successfully through life in a magical sort of way, as if composing and orchestrating the elements of reality, in order to reach the desired goal
Hi, Harry! Thank you so much for this video. It is really beautiful... Good job and keep it up! When my pairing showed up after I waited for almost the entire video, I felt... 'touched' by your explanation. Thank you for putting what I have always been thinking and researching myself into words. I know someday you'll be able to give a better explanation of the types and your system as a whole. I'm sorry for my english, I hope you can understand my point... thank youu!
You made amazing progress Harry! What I really like is the everyday‘s example you give us. It‘s not only a theory but you help with these examples to understand it even better - thanks for this video!
Great video, Harry! A very interesting topic, it's good to get this kind of insight into how the functions work together to reveal different traits, thanks for going over this! Would love to see more stuff along these lines in the future if you're thinking about it
I guess most INFPs are neurotic then since I'm yet to find one that fits your description. Even the (few) happy ones I've seen don't fit it. It's quite the opposite in fact, though on the outside I may look serene, and I'd be accommodating since I'm a nice person, until the level of burnout gets so severe it renders me completely dysfunctional. I was surprised and somewhat relieved when I started reading INFPs ' comments on MBTI videos, hundreds of them, who had the exact same struggle as me. The core issue is the divide between the inner world of ideas and imagination and the external material reality that exist as paralel worlds that hardly ever meet, so one always comes at the expense of the other. The only happy INFPs I've seen so far are those who solved this core issue and succeeded bridging between the 2 worlds by expressing their inner reality in the external reality, which is hard to do because our particular skillset doesn't readily lends itself to practical application. I'm a mental being trapped in a physical world.
I've waited so long for this! I have always felt like the old jungian conception of the 8 functions scratches the surface of something deeper. I see your content as the next step in uncovering this mysterious iceberg that is type. Thank you for the awesome work!
Your gestures and tone of voice repeat in a balanced pattern, the length of eye contact is perfectly timed to be neither too short nor too long. Mimic feels understanding, authentic and caring too, berry nice ^^
Very interesting video! Thanks for putting in the effort, this take is needed in a world full of wishy washy type descriptions and superficial generalisations. Learned a lot today!
Great video, it did not dissapoint!! I remember that you mentioned that you found it difficult or unnatural to give concrete examples, so I am glad you were able to go out of your comfort zone to make this video. I learned a lot of new thing and now am closer to finding my type
That's really an interesting video. I really like the comparison with the other MBTI's. Also now I see the differences between extraverted and introverted clearer with this examples. Great work like always!
Excellent video on these concepts. I tend to think that NiFi manifestation is hard to define because that patiuclar pairing resists concrete definition of self in the first place and if such manifestation occurs it was by choice. Involuntary definition for this pairing is generally uncomfortable.
The whole humor and persona crafting of the ENTPs is something that I didn't really thought about, but It does make a lot of sense. The persona crafting is something that I can feel it is a bit of drawback as well, because at this point in my life, I am trying to find the "base" personality. Sure I have a witty funny mask that I put on when I am with people and feel the compulsion to entertain them. Other times I just have a resting bitchface mode basically. But sometimes I do wonder if its really a mask. Also I do agree that we (or at least I) have a much more algorithmic process of making jokes, I have my methods, way to set them up etc. And I am not sure what type of jokes ESTPs generally make but I think ENTPs make more "imaginative" and exaggerated jokes. Even if it is a reactionary joke.
There are 8 if you want to describe something in its pure form, like placing it in a vacuum. But with 16 there are still many variables of how these cognitive pairings manifest. So could potentially be more if we expand more 🫣
@@JonathanJimboand in reality every pairing works differently within every type so there’s.. too many for me to count plus I don’t care enough cognitive functions in reality
I read the criticism of someone in your previous video about personality fluidity, and as an INTP-and this is probably true in extension to every Fe Ti axis prson-I can't relate to her explanation that I am are not myself until I decide to become comfortable in my original skin (epigenetics tells her otherwise), since our ego are interconnected to external values, which you can't uncompromised with mere affirmation of words, we will eventually fallback to being 'inauthentic' to make meaningful progress: say that I'm most authentic with my disagreeable aptitude in the internet, does that mean I should keep myself off to online arguments that can start a dangerous feedback loop? your attributes in the "hows" to be "more x type" is an insanely effective and intuitive mental framework even If i wefe to never come accross CPT, and thanks to you i find myself relating to my well-being more with some Te-Se employment, the confidence to man up with grace in my role as a polifical science student altho I'm not naturally ambiverted to be in that modality for long-periods. So do continue updating us with cognitive gateways video, if there are any more content. You're providing more than you realize.
I think it is really the difference of ti-fe which is the in mode of this is what I should do in xyz situation (fe) and what is the underlying reason (Ti) but rather than this is what I am and what I want (FI) and how should I achieve it (Te). In this sense you can see that rather having a reactive self (Fi-Te). Ti-fe is rather in mode of some sort of "experiment" mode. In my entire life I always feel like a mediator of whatever things that I came across. I also have ni-se axis which makes this tendency even stronger. I really just take the information that I am given and to find all its implicit assumptions or backgrounds and try to expand it into a fluent and expansive system as described in ni-ti section. I just try to take whatever I come across to its extreme. This sort of mediation is what my individualities lies rather than any fixed position, my individualities is lies in my role as some sort of will that attach to whatever things that I come across and in its development is where my individualities are. In this sense I have I have personal attachment to my ideas. I guess this is what the "intensity" of the beta quadra comes from which as I describe has their individualities in the development of things and collective
@@existenceispain2074it reeks naivete to suggest that within this globalised socialisation, mankind of today still has the privilege to specialize a role one at a time in the short-sightedness of any given individual's dream, in contrast to reality where our livelihoods are malleable as ever, and CPT has given us no excuse to be stagnant; each and every person is lucky and it's a matter of capitalizing this moment to reach fulfillment. It no longer a matter of cognigive function, ultimately to pull our mentality by the bootstraps.
@@existenceispain2074yes! ENFJ here, you've described this perfectly & succinctly, thank you. This process of mediation is where our identity lies not in some fixed position hence our attachment to our ideas. I wander if, obviously in part, this is why I initially mistyped as an ENTP: I was very much defining myself by what I could DO in terms of 'logical skills set.' Hey ho, nice to know there's nothing innately wrong with me; I've often looked at ISFPs as a completely different species to myself & felt like a poor counterpart at times (yes for a proliferation of reasons including this one). I know you related this more so to people on the Ti-Fe axis but I can relate somewhat. I'm a divergent TiNi ENFJ for what it's worth; I'm wandering if the synthesis of novel ideas is where I draw inspiration for my NiFi archetypes. Obviously it's a wee bit more complex & nuanced than that - apologies I've just been on a 15 hour night shift & I'm now in pure vague abstract TiNi mode so my brain really is resisting going into the granular! I also have a heavy SiTi parallel network so the refinement process further consolidates my TiNi - this relates to your NiTi albeit the reverse process somewhat. Apologies I don't have your level of exactitude as INTPs but I hope you get the gist! I think this would still apply to Fe dominants as Fe acts at the behest of a Ti agenda & vice versa. I've never got the impression, at least as a divergent subtype that I'm acting out of necessity in terms of what I should do but rather what TiNi dictates. In that sense it's a very systematised way of engaging with reality. For me, at least, FeSe is a 'less fluid vehicle' with which to impart TiNi. I like your elucidation of a reactive mode Vs an experimental mode. Albeit less than an ISTP, as my TiNi is more convergent than a default ENFJ, I'm constantly 're-synthesising' my TiNi whilst my FeSe remains fairly static in conveying this at large. I guess the fluidity of one's axis also comes into the equation here as Fe doms tend to have the most fluid exist at least according to Harry's case studies. If someone asked me to define 'what I am' I'd probably laugh at them 😂, not because it's a bogus concept of course but rather is quite alien to me. I think this aspect of the ENFJ is very underrated anyhow as we tend to keep our abstract side quite private albeit behind the FeSe synchronicity belies a much more calculating and systemising interior as it pertains to all aspects of life. Indeed as an Ni authority type everything HAS to make sense. I asked Harry about this & he attested to the intensity of TINi.
@@AnyaAnnika67 well I am an infj probably one that operate similarly to the creator of cpt (sorry I don't know his name). What i am describing is the modern subjectivity. One that must work (or through some objective means) to express themselves and in a sense to self alienate themselves but can never be able to fully identify with their work. I see jungian typology as a way to classify modern subjectivity where each function axis deal with different strategies or perspectives to deal this inherent contradiction or tension of subject and object. (i believe this tension is inherent in Jung notion of introvert and extrovert) this contradiction is probably first taken to its extreme by the philosopher Hegel. That is why I see potential in typology as a way to describe fundamental types of subjectivity in the modern time. If you believe your subjectivity lies in the beyond and you can obtain through work. I think you are in ti-fe axis or ni-se axis. But you believe that your subjectivity is immediate but you must express them you are in fi-te or si-ne axis. Note that both attitude requires "meeting" of subjects and objects. I am still trying to work out the theories but I believe Heidegger examplify Si-ne perspective the best. For my exactitude it probably comes from the fact that I do a lot of "serious" mathematics when I was younger which consist of highly abstract theories and rigorous proof. I also start to read philosophy in recent years.
Great video. I relate strongly with both INFP and ISTJ. I guess oftentimes we can be in between two types. I do think that overall as a type I am an INFP mainly because of my Ne authority and my mostly observational and analytical nature of Te, being a jack of all trades kind of etc. I do have a vibe of serenity and outwardly i can be very adaptive. ISTJ is a sibling type that I'm very, very similar to. Esp when it comes to having strong sense of boundaries, a standard of moral purity, and being a bit moralistic i.e "i don't do this, other people shouldn't either" etc I do have a lot of these kind of moments.
🤔So what I am really thinking about lens vs codec is this: Lens: Having a fixed codec agenda and keep finding new data relating to that certain agenda. Like really using everything available or could use to attribute the fixed possitivic agenda of hyper auxiliary. Codec: Careful with new variation of information from the hyper convergent lens function coming to you so you are in constant need to rationalise them through your dominant function. But in this case.. it's more like you have a fixed direction I think Also, I like your explanation!
That is an interesting approach, new to me. Lens can be represented by set of morals that build the framework. Codec sounds like a path of self realisation through interactions with outside world. Firs is dogmatic, adopted as instruction set rather than realised. It seems that it lives in the collective and individual, (most obvious example is encoded into religion moral compass)which provides greate. stability for a social interactions reducing at a cost of adaptability and often prone for over or misinterpretation, giving a possibility of a very different outcome when applied. This is a manifestation of a source code -ie bible, to the matrix - applied world projection, unidirectional. It's a cognitively less taxing, conforming type of approach, that in return ads a layer of group integrity with the same set of instructions. The codec is a self adjusting in nature. It is often containing very similar data with different structure that is rather self synthetised as a reflection of characteristics of the outside world. It is a manifestation of Ni dominant function as a facilitator for self change. This appears to have an advantage of accuracy at the cost of greater volatility and cognitive burden during development. In this example we have an atheist, who is a humanist in a sense of derived set of instruction from own interactions aka a "moral atheist". It's my on the fly application so bear with my idea having a high chance of being incorrect. However I was on this topic for a while. God is dead, said famously Nietzsche. It seems that great majority of people are unable to develop acodec in absence of lens. That is a neat idea coming together explaining progressive , fragmentation of societies across western cultures. Only few percent of population ,Ni dominants,have this unique capacity. They are capable of becoming the "Uber Mench".
Nice touch. I would add Codec types always relies on a system that leads to a predictable outcome; they'll always keep readjusting their system for cohesive clarity. Something completely random would either throw them off or they build their system again from the ground up to realign with the new datum they're working with here. Lens types don't mind adding randomness in their system, the more random datum it adds the more "true" it is. It doesn't mind the chaos it ensues, because they understand life is about chances here. It doesn't mind uncertainty, conclusions don't drive them when they could explore more instead. To Codec types it may drive them nuts since they like their system to be structured and orderly. But yeah with lens types, it's more about changing the direction of their perception over changing the direction with their rationalism.
Hey, thanks for this informative video! But I've got one question on my mind: What do you generally think is the difference between SI-FI convergence of ISTJ and FI-SI convergence of INFP?
@CognitivePersonality Thanks for the answer! ^^ Still a few questions if you don't mind answering... 1. Do you mean: "boundaries held constant"? 2. How do you reconcile the notion of like you said: "INFP's having fluid boundaries" with the notion of them being codec types, which according to your book means: "generally value truth, order and the understanding of their experiences more, than made experiences for their own sake, and exploration"? 3. How could FI-SI of the INFP and SI-FI of the ISTJ comparably look like in practice? Hope my questions are intelligible... If you have time, feel free to answer them!
@@icehuckyorkhawk7043 I wouldn't imagine so - there is little evidence of the former affecting cognition. DiD however is something I am more open to in terms of type switching
@@CognitivePersonality I sometimes have trouble typing immigrants because they often have adopted certain patterns of speech in order to try to blend in better, and are affected by a cultural background that I am not overly familiar with. It's like trying to see past a double facade-at some point the coating becomes too thick to be able to distinguish the substance underneath.
According to this I might be an INTJ. I never tested or identified with the descriptions, though. I always come out as INTP in the tests and it seemed to fit better. I'm off to do some research, I guess.
If we're talking about the "personality/values dilemma" scheme, such as observing the world and people, then oneself, and attempting to create/adopt/imitate a personality or behaviors that would be both very comfortable to "be" and practical in the real world, and such a mechanism would have been present really from a very early age until now ("oh, this guy is serious and mature, that has such and such advantages, it's worth adopting such a system of behaviors... but on the other hand, that other guy's tactic of being carefree and sociable also works, is it better to be like this or that, what would bring me more comfort in behaving and benefits in life? Is it better to be interested in people or ignore them? It is better to be cold or emotional? What would be more comfortable?"), then what pairings/functions/types does this resemble?
I'm assuming these are all convergent use of these functions because I couldn't relate to my divergent one at all, even it's codec/lens reversed version was a better description of me.
@@CognitivePersonality are you planning on doing one for divergent functions? Overall that part of CPT is the second most interesting part for me (after networks) so i would like to see a deep dive about them.
Possibly! Think I mentioned in video the + ones are more overt and demonstrable so a video like this for divergent ones would more regard our internal experience than what people get from us
@@CognitivePersonalitystill I'd love to see this Harry if you can at some point. I think people often forget there's a whole other abstract world to the ENFJ & it's what's actually driving our agenda .
I've actually seen Si-Ti people write a great deal of their calculations on paper. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that idea comes from CS Joseph, but I also think that he was confusing Te with thinking externally, i.e. writing your thoughts on a piece of paper in front of you. Supposedly Si-Ti lacks Te because it's a blindspot. But with the CPT model it does not seem clear to me why any function should be a blindspot...
@@four2896, I could do most math equations in my head when I was younger. I still can, for the most part. I’m not sure which function is involved in this process
I'd say Fi agency there so NiFi - Fi is locked in to a specific role and destiny, there's little grandiosity there and all the power climbing serves a utility rather than individualistic self realisation e.g. Madara (FiNi-)
I have to say, of the various accounts of the relationship between the "Jungian Functions" and the way they show up as tendencies. Your account seems more plausible compared to some of the other ones.
In socionics I think that an ENFP will show way more NeFe than NeTe. And the ENTP will show more NeTe than NeFe. Due to the expertise of the demonstrative function. I know your system is different I guess. But from my life experience ENTP’s are very good at Te (especially condensing difficult information into useful messaging). But they struggle with Fe where they try to ”fit in” and inspire and mottivate and ”sell” their ideas to an audience. Whereas ENFP’s are excellent at Fe but struggle to convey ideas logically and explain their usefulness. In this sense I challenge your classification of ENFP as NeTe and ENTP as NeFe :)
In CPT, ENFP uses NeTe and FeNe, while ENTP uses NeFe and TeNe. He even acknowledges that shadow divergent auxiliary a.k.a the critic function is strongly present in the psyche, which leads to a common subtype with that function as its lead e.g. the ESFJ subtype of ENFP, the ESTJ subtype of ENTP.
I believe your definitions for the functions are incomplete or at least not compatible enough for an honest challenge. Functions are not deterministic. For example, conscious Fe does not equate to social grace it simply refers to the preference for operating within the TiFe frame of mind. Concious+convergent Fe aka 1st or 3rd slot, will often not operate within the boundaries that divergent Fe observes(conciously or unconsiously). The 6th slot, in nearly every system including socionics, represents an area of perceived success, but it is not the frame from which the individual operates. It is a primarily unconscious skill. 3rd slot agency takes concious risks against the divergent domain that a 4th slot, 6th slot, or 2nd slot of the same function operates within. The direct application of discrete 8 function models simply don't work for describing the cognitive archetypes that you see in the wild.
20:30 So does it signify that an INFJ is not apt for mathematically inclined academic or research setting due to NiTi's fluid approach which lacks rigor?
In my experience, quite the opposite. The tendency of NiTi is to uncover approximate layouts for the solution to a given problem. It's not so much about optimizing the next step as in SiTi, but taking a step back and coming up with conjectures as to how the pieces all fit together. NiTi is able to see things SiTi can't and vice versa. These two pairings supplement each other quite well in academics, and both can lead to novel insights.
@@icehuckyorkhawk7043 makes sense yeah it's kinda true what you described. But I kinda wanna know like how much percentage do you think an INFJ cognitively can succeed in mathematics with the approach of conceptualized conjecture making whether it can be efficient in understanding the problems which are full of calculations or to do complex proves e.g., how it's normally asked in IMO or other competitions?
@@nilanjanchanda597 Probably the process/result dichotomy of Socionics would be a good resource for this question, as process types exhibit the parallel of Si-Ti and result types exhibit the parallel of Ni-Ti within that system. The short answer is that Si-Ti aligns more closely to research standards set by academics due to its rigorous data collecting and synthesizing process, while Ni-Ti is more unconventional but has a higher probability than Si-Ti of generating a novel insight. As for who generally does better in challenging, proof-based math competitions, I'd wager that more of the top contestants are result (Ni-Ti) types due to their tendency to lie closer to either extreme of any intellectual spectrum compared to their process counterparts who gravitate more towards the average.
Great video as always! So am i right that INFP, for example, is far more similar to ESTJ, than to ISFP or ISTJ. Or INFJ to ESTP. From what ive heard, the distance between oppositional types is far less than between neighbour stacks. Kudos!
I'm wondering the same. Especially now given the cognitive networks, I would say in many ways they are more similar. Same goes for i.e INTJ/ESFP being more similar to each other that to ISFP/ENTJ.
INFPs are extremely different from ESTJs. Te inferior is a disaster, especially when coupled with Ne. At least Se is still attached to the external material reality. With Ne you can get completely detached from the immediate material surrounding, from the here and now, and live entirely in your head. Problem is, how do you make a living from that when even if you find some possible solutions it's so difficult for you to follow through since you can't put your logic above your feelings?
ENFP have strong Ne and Fe but in CPT the nature of a function is determined by its supporting function, so in the ENFP case Ne is supported by Te while Fe is supported by Ne. So the ENFP's strongest functions are NeTe and strong FeNe. Your observation that ENFP likes to impose social harmony in a group setting is an example of FeNe, which is different from its cousin NeFe with the order switched, which influences people's experiences by using them as an emotional sounding board and is more character of the ENTP.
So to reiterate the ENFP has strongest Ne and Fe but these two functions do not operate alongside each other. They are supported by Te and Ne respectively. And when Ne and Fe do operate together in the ENFP it is FeNe rather than NeFe.
Stated simply, these simple explanations of convergent functions are only 1 part of type and can not be used alone. If you add to NeFe the observed and authoritative Ti value, which presents predominant to the Fe agency, then the result will look more like your "real life" ENTPs. Namely, a person who succeeds on the Te-Se plane while not personally relating to the Fi-Te self-concept at all. ENFP - NeTe where the observed and authoritative Fi value is presented predominant to Te agency. Succeeds on the Fe-Se while not relating to Ti-Fe at all.
Do you have information on how many individuals you have typed for each cognition? Which is the cognition that you have the least customers, and which you have the most. That is a secret? if so, why is really curious; I don't really see a valid motivation to keep this hidden
He has mentioned before that ESTP/ESF-NT seems to the be the type he types the least in this community. Given my interactions on the discord & FB group I'd hazard a guess at INFJ/INT-SF as well.
In this video description of Ni and Ne on MBTI system ruclips.net/video/dVFyTmenBbs/видео.html it sems to me Ne is mostly close to NeTe while Ni to SiFi CPT cognitive fuctions, am I right?
Is it possible for a INFP to become an Evil Dictator regardless if it’s possible I like write a story where the villain of the Story is a INFP Dictator and the hero is a INTJ Punk
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It’s a crime that your channel isn’t much more prominent in the sea of misinformation about cognitive theory. It speaks volumes about the current “fast food” state of typology though.
This guy is interesting, I have seen 3 versions of him with variants of each I. goatee + short hair + beard (very direct and stoic) II. Long loose hair + no beard + no glasses (seemingly self conscious yet sarcastic ) III. This version long tied hair + full beard + no glasses (Friendly personable tone and laid back). When the glasses are on and the hair is short and combed he has a direct and fast delivery , when the hair is loose and free and the glasses are off he tends to take his time and sound more natural freestyle. he must be some kind of intuitive feeling or transformative types constantly reinventing himself inwardly and living it out for a time. Just something I couldn't help but notice otherwise great content, his explanations make a lot more sense than the cartoonish stereotypes all over the community.
Would love a video like this for the divergent pairings
agreed!
Definitely
1:33 TeSe (ENTJ)
2:24 TeNe (ESTJ)
4:05 SeTe (ESFP)
4:52 SeFe (ESTP)
5:45 NeFe (ENTP)
7:51 NeTe (ENFP)
10:18 FeNe (ESFJ)
12:20 FeSe (ENFJ)
13:38 TiSi (INTP)
15:43 TiNi (ISTP)
17:15 SiTi (ISFJ)
18:39 NiTi (INFJ)
20:31 FiSi (INFP)
22:47 FiNi (ISFP)
24:22 SiFi (ISTJ)
26:41 NiFi (INTJ)
Small correction, did you forget to change INTJ to NiFi?
@@Kizuto_ Ooops! I fixed it hehe, thanks!
Thanks for this!
Nyahh Arigathanks!
@@patchwicked 🗿
You are the only 16 personality types channel on RUclips (that I know of) that actually makes sense and has a logical/scientific approach to this. I love how you go for Jung’s original works to inform your understanding instead of using popular internet oversimplifications that make MBTI into some sort of new personality horoscope. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like discussing that topic anymore - it seems like most people ignore how complicated and fluid human psyche truly is. Personally, I see MBTI as the most sensible personality system out there but it doesn’t mean it’s always a perfect representation of human inner workings - but then again, can any personality system be perfect? It’d probably have to be overcomplicated and detailed to an ungodly degree to describe each person’s cognitive biases. And probably even then it wouldn’t be actually perfect since we’re all unique, I believe.
Anyway, enough of my ramblings; I’m struggling to gauge whether I’m an INTP or an INFJ (the convergent Ti and divergent Fe present in both makes me unsure, unfortunately. I’m not that great at noticing my own personality so to speak, though I’m sure I fall into the Ti/Fe bracket), are you perhaps planning a video on the topic, or mayhap have any tips for a struggling fan? ^^
You're so right about channels who use stereotypes and ones who look deep into the theory and treat it systematically. I'd say mine's in the middle but trying to get more systematic and logical and avoid biases and stereotypes too much. MBTI is the best simplification I've found too! As an INTJ I've liked the being able to simplify everything into the functions then play around with it in my head and draw connections and apply them to the real world. I wonder if you're an INFJ you'd experience a similar thing.
Yeah your Ti will be intense with either so maybe trying looking at Si. Are you really irrational and petty about certain Sensory things and routines (Si child) or do you actively enjoy going against sensory stuff and couldn't imagine having little routines (Si demon)
Hope this helps! Yeah a video on this topic would be cool
@@thatmbtiguyworth noting INFJs quite enjoy routines, remember they enjoy the novelty of their internal world but not necessarily the other way round!
ben vaserlan also does this well.
This is great for explaining the practical functionality of each dominant pairing and really helps me to further understand the difference between each variant of the dominant functions. We're definitely going to need a part 2 for how the pairings show up when rendered divergent!
I usually score INFP in tests and it makes a sort of sense because I'm overall described by others as a detached, calm and peaceful person. But when I started to make cognitive functions tests only I consistently started to score Fi-Ni, and CPT was essential for me to understand myself as an ISFP. I strongly relate with this type, althought I feel I will never be capable to pinpoint if this is what I really am in reality, haha
But I must say that seeing the explanation of Te-Se clarified even more my ISFP typing, because this is what I strive in a certain way: objectiveness and something meaningful to be act upon. But this more of an idealisation, extremely hard to put in practice consistently.
Amazing work Harry, thanks a lot :)
Greetings.
Your content has enriched my life, Harry. I learn lots of new words and principles from this channel, and I really appreciate your effort. I cite you as the best mbti youtuber all the time.
BUT
Please give us the ESTJ video and/or bring back fantasy typology (the hobbit etc)
Harry I loved your elucidation of FeSe as 'synchronisation' indeed I am a mental health practitioner and this convergent pairing really does come in handy. I think a lot of people often miss the point in seeing us as people pleasers when in fact our TiNi is very adept at figuring out what the person needs & what the situation needs for a desired outcome. We can be very strategic in that regard; it's hardly as if FeSe convergence is synchronising 'just because', we always have multiple contingencies in place, thinking multiple steps ahead. I'd like to think that as I have a very fluid axis (Fe50/Ti50 as rates by yourself) this makes the pairing even more adept as we require a degree of FeSe divergence in under to truly perceive a persons potential motives/desires/what frameworks they're utilising. I've began to understand the utility of FeSe+ in conveying my more 'out there' TiNi convergence anyhow. Sometimes how you convey something and getting on the same wavelength is just as important as that which you're trying to convey else how do you expect people to listen & have an impact?
I feel like I'm gonna use this video many times in the future, since it's a great summary of the main characteristics we can see in the personalities. I particularly enjoyed the differences between ESTP and ENTP's charisma and humor you explained, it's clearer to me now.
Great video, Harry!
Love how u're making your content more accessible and 'real' in how you explain them.
At this point I’m convinced I’ll never truly find my type on my own so I promise I’ll get a type service someday it’s not the right time now but I look forward to that now hypothetical day with joy and nervousness unending in my quest to find my type and also just learn more about me as well as the human brain in the process. CPT has always stood out as more scientifically based than other MBTI systems.
I just realized I sound like a stereotypical INFP writing this but I feel like I’m more in Ti-Fe than Fi-Te. Yet tomorrow shall bring me to new ideas and conclusions. Thank you so much for having this!
Great Video as always! as an INTJ, I think your descriptions and examples of Convergent NiFi is spot on, I can mostly understand and relate to it. I can't help but smile 😂 especially when you say "NiFi alone is hard to pin point because it's the absence of something rather than the presence of something". Very relatable and in some sense it's kinda the strength of NiFi for me because that is what makes the archetype is kind of general and loose and easier for self transformation in the first place.
I like the fact that you put NiFi last and tried your best to explain it as clearly as possible even tho it's kinda difficult, haha... 😂
Hey, I didn't understand that part a little what does that something mean? Their presence around people? Or inferior se? Or something else?
@@animeverse9512 It's complicated but I'll try to make it simple.
Basically, when NiFi is in action, it has no manifestation in the outside world (no action,effect,etc. visible in the outside) It's mostly happened in the mind, others can't simply pin point what it is or when it is used and happened, hence the absence of something. Only The INTJ themselves know what it is when it comes to NiFi values, interest, goals etc... that's why Harry generalized what it would looks like, or what it could be.
When you see an INTJ in real life, what you're going to see most of the time is their SeTe in action, hence the presence of something like for example someone who's very focused in a single task, or very efficient when doing a certain task (action,effect,etc. visible in the outside world).
There's no inferior function in CPT. NiFi is the dominant/convergent functions and SeTe is the oppositional/divergent functions.
Harry it's so cool that you're doing CPT and cognitive functions overall from the perspective of a mindful mind. It's no surprise to me as I've found Nx-doms to be the most likely types overall to get to this level. But it's great to analyze the functions from this vantage point and in some sense it's a natural progression to individuation. I think that's what Jung also had in mind when coming up with this stuff. Great work and keep up.
Great analysis, I was thinking for a long time I was an introverted type, but watching those types of videos and actually understanding, what introversion truly is, I was never really a truly introverted person, cause majority of my life I'm a person of constant action/research-process/extremely purposeful, yet very private and seclusive, more of an ENTJ
From all of those pairings, Te-Se was the most accurate for me, cause literally that's what I'm constantly doing, I can't imagine myself without acheiving something and I'm definitely not a workaholic at all, that's just what I do and what I'm excel at. On the other side, I can't really go like extremely deep into myself and constantly reflect upon some things, cause I just find this process kind of useless, nothing will change if you're gonna just sit and think about future and what it COULD be instead of just doing something, and it even surprises me often, when people are amazed by my rationality/common sense, cause in my opinion I'm not really that great (probably oppositional Fi tricks), and, from what I've noticed, dislike Ti process, just all of this purely academical kind of approach which is really widespread in scientifical field, never was my forte nor I was interested in it
Se is mostly used for kind of relaxing/as an agency function within Te-Se pairing, at least I can feel it like that, it's not obligating me doing anything, but it greatly helps with focusing on important tasks, my concentration was always incredible, since I was a child
TiNi is Frogger, hopping from one leaf to another to get across the pond. NiTi is Tom Bombadil, creating an ethereal world, encompassing all of reality within it and using this confident energy to somehow fluidly navigate successfully through life in a magical sort of way, as if composing and orchestrating the elements of reality, in order to reach the desired goal
Haha love this
Very ethereal and intuitive explanations only a NiTi can come up with
Great video! I am looking forward for a part 2 describing the 16 functions on divergent position
Another insightful, engaging and well-presented video from Harry - I’ve learned so much as always, thank you so much and hope you are keeping well :)
Hi, Harry! Thank you so much for this video. It is really beautiful... Good job and keep it up! When my pairing showed up after I waited for almost the entire video, I felt... 'touched' by your explanation. Thank you for putting what I have always been thinking and researching myself into words. I know someday you'll be able to give a better explanation of the types and your system as a whole. I'm sorry for my english, I hope you can understand my point... thank youu!
You made amazing progress Harry! What I really like is the everyday‘s example you give us. It‘s not only a theory but you help with these examples to understand it even better - thanks for this video!
Great video, Harry! A very interesting topic, it's good to get this kind of insight into how the functions work together to reveal different traits, thanks for going over this! Would love to see more stuff along these lines in the future if you're thinking about it
I guess most INFPs are neurotic then since I'm yet to find one that fits your description. Even the (few) happy ones I've seen don't fit it. It's quite the opposite in fact, though on the outside I may look serene, and I'd be accommodating since I'm a nice person, until the level of burnout gets so severe it renders me completely dysfunctional.
I was surprised and somewhat relieved when I started reading INFPs ' comments on MBTI videos, hundreds of them, who had the exact same struggle as me. The core issue is the divide between the inner world of ideas and imagination and the external material reality that exist as paralel worlds that hardly ever meet, so one always comes at the expense of the other.
The only happy INFPs I've seen so far are those who solved this core issue and succeeded bridging between the 2 worlds by expressing their inner reality in the external reality, which is hard to do because our particular skillset doesn't readily lends itself to practical application. I'm a mental being trapped in a physical world.
I've waited so long for this! I have always felt like the old jungian conception of the 8 functions scratches the surface of something deeper. I see your content as the next step in uncovering this mysterious iceberg that is type. Thank you for the awesome work!
Your gestures and tone of voice repeat in a balanced pattern, the length of eye contact is perfectly timed to be neither too short nor too long. Mimic feels understanding, authentic and caring too, berry nice ^^
Very interesting video! Thanks for putting in the effort, this take is needed in a world full of wishy washy type descriptions and superficial generalisations. Learned a lot today!
Great video. Indepth/informational as usual. Thanks Harry.
Great video, it did not dissapoint!! I remember that you mentioned that you found it difficult or unnatural to give concrete examples, so I am glad you were able to go out of your comfort zone to make this video. I learned a lot of new thing and now am closer to finding my type
That's really an interesting video. I really like the comparison with the other MBTI's.
Also now I see the differences between extraverted and introverted clearer with this examples.
Great work like always!
High quality content, as usual. I can't say more.
Excellent video on these concepts. I tend to think that NiFi manifestation is hard to define because that patiuclar pairing resists concrete definition of self in the first place and if such manifestation occurs it was by choice. Involuntary definition for this pairing is generally uncomfortable.
very helpful, especially CPT can be very confusing at times without any practical example available, thank you...
The whole humor and persona crafting of the ENTPs is something that I didn't really thought about, but It does make a lot of sense. The persona crafting is something that I can feel it is a bit of drawback as well, because at this point in my life, I am trying to find the "base" personality. Sure I have a witty funny mask that I put on when I am with people and feel the compulsion to entertain them. Other times I just have a resting bitchface mode basically. But sometimes I do wonder if its really a mask.
Also I do agree that we (or at least I) have a much more algorithmic process of making jokes, I have my methods, way to set them up etc. And I am not sure what type of jokes ESTPs generally make but I think ENTPs make more "imaginative" and exaggerated jokes. Even if it is a reactionary joke.
Always good stuff. 🤗
Super comprehensive and lucid overview!
It's amazing that every new video of yours excites me
It's insane. Yesterday i came up with an idea that there are actually not 8, but 16 cognitive functions. And you upload a video. What a coincidence!
Why do you think it's 16?
@@unknownvt9fn if you combine lense with codec, you get 16 unique ways to use cognitive functions
There are 8 if you want to describe something in its pure form, like placing it in a vacuum. But with 16 there are still many variables of how these cognitive pairings manifest. So could potentially be more if we expand more 🫣
Don't forget also you have convergence and divergence so that adds additional multiplicity.
@@JonathanJimboand in reality every pairing works differently within every type so there’s.. too many for me to count plus I don’t care enough cognitive functions in reality
This is sooooo important and on point! So impressive.
a video with ESFP subtypes would be great
I absolutely love your content! Has helped me tremendously! Endless thanks!
I read the criticism of someone in your previous video about personality fluidity, and as an INTP-and this is probably true in extension to every Fe Ti axis prson-I can't relate to her explanation that I am are not myself until I decide to become comfortable in my original skin (epigenetics tells her otherwise), since our ego are interconnected to external values, which you can't uncompromised with mere affirmation of words, we will eventually fallback to being 'inauthentic' to make meaningful progress: say that I'm most authentic with my disagreeable aptitude in the internet, does that mean I should keep myself off to online arguments that can start a dangerous feedback loop? your attributes in the "hows" to be "more x type" is an insanely effective and intuitive mental framework even If i wefe to never come accross CPT, and thanks to you i find myself relating to my well-being more with some Te-Se employment, the confidence to man up with grace in my role as a polifical science student altho I'm not naturally ambiverted to be in that modality for long-periods. So do continue updating us with cognitive gateways video, if there are any more content. You're providing more than you realize.
I think it is really the difference of ti-fe which is the in mode of this is what I should do in xyz situation (fe) and what is the underlying reason (Ti) but rather than this is what I am and what I want (FI) and how should I achieve it (Te). In this sense you can see that rather having a reactive self (Fi-Te). Ti-fe is rather in mode of some sort of "experiment" mode.
In my entire life I always feel like a mediator of whatever things that I came across. I also have ni-se axis which makes this tendency even stronger. I really just take the information that I am given and to find all its implicit assumptions or backgrounds and try to expand it into a fluent and expansive system as described in ni-ti section. I just try to take whatever I come across to its extreme. This sort of mediation is what my individualities lies rather than any fixed position, my individualities is lies in my role as some sort of will that attach to whatever things that I come across and in its development is where my individualities are. In this sense I have I have personal attachment to my ideas. I guess this is what the "intensity" of the beta quadra comes from which as I describe has their individualities in the development of things and collective
@@existenceispain2074it reeks naivete to suggest that within this globalised socialisation, mankind of today still has the privilege to specialize a role one at a time in the short-sightedness of any given individual's dream, in contrast to reality where our livelihoods are malleable as ever, and CPT has given us no excuse to be stagnant; each and every person is lucky and it's a matter of capitalizing this moment to reach fulfillment. It no longer a matter of cognigive function, ultimately to pull our mentality by the bootstraps.
@@existenceispain2074yes! ENFJ here, you've described this perfectly & succinctly, thank you. This process of mediation is where our identity lies not in some fixed position hence our attachment to our ideas. I wander if, obviously in part, this is why I initially mistyped as an ENTP: I was very much defining myself by what I could DO in terms of 'logical skills set.' Hey ho, nice to know there's nothing innately wrong with me; I've often looked at ISFPs as a completely different species to myself & felt like a poor counterpart at times (yes for a proliferation of reasons including this one). I know you related this more so to people on the Ti-Fe axis but I can relate somewhat. I'm a divergent TiNi ENFJ for what it's worth; I'm wandering if the synthesis of novel ideas is where I draw inspiration for my NiFi archetypes. Obviously it's a wee bit more complex & nuanced than that - apologies I've just been on a 15 hour night shift & I'm now in pure vague abstract TiNi mode so my brain really is resisting going into the granular! I also have a heavy SiTi parallel network so the refinement process further consolidates my TiNi - this relates to your NiTi albeit the reverse process somewhat. Apologies I don't have your level of exactitude as INTPs but I hope you get the gist! I think this would still apply to Fe dominants as Fe acts at the behest of a Ti agenda & vice versa. I've never got the impression, at least as a divergent subtype that I'm acting out of necessity in terms of what I should do but rather what TiNi dictates. In that sense it's a very systematised way of engaging with reality. For me, at least, FeSe is a 'less fluid vehicle' with which to impart TiNi. I like your elucidation of a reactive mode Vs an experimental mode. Albeit less than an ISTP, as my TiNi is more convergent than a default ENFJ, I'm constantly 're-synthesising' my TiNi whilst my FeSe remains fairly static in conveying this at large. I guess the fluidity of one's axis also comes into the equation here as Fe doms tend to have the most fluid exist at least according to Harry's case studies. If someone asked me to define 'what I am' I'd probably laugh at them 😂, not because it's a bogus concept of course but rather is quite alien to me. I think this aspect of the ENFJ is very underrated anyhow as we tend to keep our abstract side quite private albeit behind the FeSe synchronicity belies a much more calculating and systemising interior as it pertains to all aspects of life. Indeed as an Ni authority type everything HAS to make sense. I asked Harry about this & he attested to the intensity of TINi.
@@AnyaAnnika67 well I am an infj probably one that operate similarly to the creator of cpt (sorry I don't know his name). What i am describing is the modern subjectivity. One that must work (or through some objective means) to express themselves and in a sense to self alienate themselves but can never be able to fully identify with their work. I see jungian typology as a way to classify modern subjectivity where each function axis deal with different strategies or perspectives to deal this inherent contradiction or tension of subject and object. (i believe this tension is inherent in Jung notion of introvert and extrovert) this contradiction is probably first taken to its extreme by the philosopher Hegel. That is why I see potential in typology as a way to describe fundamental types of subjectivity in the modern time.
If you believe your subjectivity lies in the beyond and you can obtain through work. I think you are in ti-fe axis or ni-se axis. But you believe that your subjectivity is immediate but you must express them you are in fi-te or si-ne axis. Note that both attitude requires "meeting" of subjects and objects. I am still trying to work out the theories but I believe Heidegger examplify Si-ne perspective the best.
For my exactitude it probably comes from the fact that I do a lot of "serious" mathematics when I was younger which consist of highly abstract theories and rigorous proof. I also start to read philosophy in recent years.
Great video. I relate strongly with both INFP and ISTJ. I guess oftentimes we can be in between two types. I do think that overall as a type I am an INFP mainly because of my Ne authority and my mostly observational and analytical nature of Te, being a jack of all trades kind of etc. I do have a vibe of serenity and outwardly i can be very adaptive. ISTJ is a sibling type that I'm very, very similar to. Esp when it comes to having strong sense of boundaries, a standard of moral purity, and being a bit moralistic i.e "i don't do this, other people shouldn't either" etc I do have a lot of these kind of moments.
🤔So what I am really thinking about lens vs codec is this:
Lens: Having a fixed codec agenda and keep finding new data relating to that certain agenda. Like really using everything available or could use to attribute the fixed possitivic agenda of hyper auxiliary.
Codec: Careful with new variation of information from the hyper convergent lens function coming to you so you are in constant need to rationalise them through your dominant function. But in this case.. it's more like you have a fixed direction I think
Also, I like your explanation!
That is an interesting approach, new to me.
Lens can be represented by set of morals that build the framework.
Codec sounds like a path of self realisation through interactions with outside world.
Firs is dogmatic, adopted as instruction set rather than realised. It seems that it lives in the collective and individual, (most obvious example is encoded into religion moral compass)which provides greate. stability for a social interactions reducing at a cost of adaptability and often prone for over or misinterpretation, giving a possibility of a very different outcome when applied. This is a manifestation of a source code -ie bible, to the matrix - applied world projection, unidirectional.
It's a cognitively less taxing, conforming type of approach, that in return ads a layer of group integrity with the same set of instructions.
The codec is a self adjusting in nature. It is often containing very similar data with different structure that is rather self synthetised as a reflection of characteristics of the outside world. It is a manifestation of Ni dominant function as a facilitator for self change.
This appears to have an advantage of accuracy at the cost of greater volatility and cognitive burden during development. In this example we have an atheist, who is a humanist in a sense of derived set of instruction from own interactions aka a "moral atheist".
It's my on the fly application so bear with my idea having a high chance of being incorrect.
However I was on this topic for a while. God is dead, said famously Nietzsche.
It seems that great majority of people are unable to develop acodec in absence of lens. That is a neat idea coming together explaining progressive , fragmentation of societies across western cultures.
Only few percent of population ,Ni dominants,have this unique capacity. They are capable of becoming the "Uber Mench".
Nice touch. I would add Codec types always relies on a system that leads to a predictable outcome; they'll always keep readjusting their system for cohesive clarity. Something completely random would either throw them off or they build their system again from the ground up to realign with the new datum they're working with here.
Lens types don't mind adding randomness in their system, the more random datum it adds the more "true" it is. It doesn't mind the chaos it ensues, because they understand life is about chances here. It doesn't mind uncertainty, conclusions don't drive them when they could explore more instead. To Codec types it may drive them nuts since they like their system to be structured and orderly. But yeah with lens types, it's more about changing the direction of their perception over changing the direction with their rationalism.
Great video as always, Thank you!
I wonder have you ever analyzed David Bowie Harry? 🤔
Hey, thanks for this informative video!
But I've got one question on my mind:
What do you generally think is the difference between SI-FI convergence of ISTJ and FI-SI convergence of INFP?
@@heeropeero8919 SiFi = boundaries help constant, FiSi = fluid boundaries
@CognitivePersonality
Thanks for the answer! ^^
Still a few questions if you don't mind answering...
1. Do you mean: "boundaries held constant"?
2. How do you reconcile the notion of like you said: "INFP's having fluid boundaries" with the notion of them being codec types, which according to your book means:
"generally value truth, order and the understanding of their experiences more, than made experiences for their own sake, and exploration"?
3. How could FI-SI of the INFP and SI-FI of the ISTJ comparably look like in practice?
Hope my questions are intelligible...
If you have time, feel free to answer them!
Would a multilingual person's cognitive type change when they switch to another language? What about a person with dissociative identity disorder?
@@icehuckyorkhawk7043 I wouldn't imagine so - there is little evidence of the former affecting cognition. DiD however is something I am more open to in terms of type switching
@@CognitivePersonality I sometimes have trouble typing immigrants because they often have adopted certain patterns of speech in order to try to blend in better, and are affected by a cultural background that I am not overly familiar with. It's like trying to see past a double facade-at some point the coating becomes too thick to be able to distinguish the substance underneath.
According to this I might be an INTJ. I never tested or identified with the descriptions, though. I always come out as INTP in the tests and it seemed to fit better. I'm off to do some research, I guess.
Great video ❤️
This Is music to my ears
Thank for your great videos , what books you recommend for reading into typology ?
If we're talking about the "personality/values dilemma" scheme, such as observing the world and people, then oneself, and attempting to create/adopt/imitate a personality or behaviors that would be both very comfortable to "be" and practical in the real world, and such a mechanism would have been present really from a very early age until now ("oh, this guy is serious and mature, that has such and such advantages, it's worth adopting such a system of behaviors... but on the other hand, that other guy's tactic of being carefree and sociable also works, is it better to be like this or that, what would bring me more comfort in behaving and benefits in life? Is it better to be interested in people or ignore them? It is better to be cold or emotional? What would be more comfortable?"), then what pairings/functions/types does this resemble?
you are so cool. Best video
I'm assuming these are all convergent use of these functions because I couldn't relate to my divergent one at all, even it's codec/lens reversed version was a better description of me.
That's right, just the convergent pairings for this one!
@@CognitivePersonality are you planning on doing one for divergent functions? Overall that part of CPT is the second most interesting part for me (after networks) so i would like to see a deep dive about them.
Possibly! Think I mentioned in video the + ones are more overt and demonstrable so a video like this for divergent ones would more regard our internal experience than what people get from us
@@CognitivePersonalitystill I'd love to see this Harry if you can at some point. I think people often forget there's a whole other abstract world to the ENFJ & it's what's actually driving our agenda .
Would SiTi be the cognitive process of working out math equations in your head, rather than writing everything out on paper?
I've actually seen Si-Ti people write a great deal of their calculations on paper. I think, correct me if I'm wrong, that idea comes from CS Joseph, but I also think that he was confusing Te with thinking externally, i.e. writing your thoughts on a piece of paper in front of you. Supposedly Si-Ti lacks Te because it's a blindspot. But with the CPT model it does not seem clear to me why any function should be a blindspot...
@@four2896, I could do most math equations in my head when I was younger. I still can, for the most part. I’m not sure which function is involved in this process
Hey, could you make a video comparing INTJs to INTPs?
Is Sasuke Uchiha from Naruto an INTJ or ISFP? It's pretty controversial on PDB.
I'd say Fi agency there so NiFi - Fi is locked in to a specific role and destiny, there's little grandiosity there and all the power climbing serves a utility rather than individualistic self realisation e.g. Madara (FiNi-)
I have to say, of the various accounts of the relationship between the "Jungian Functions" and the way they show up as tendencies. Your account seems more plausible compared to some of the other ones.
can you dedicate a space to what it means for real to be an ambivert?
In socionics I think that an ENFP will show way more NeFe than NeTe. And the ENTP will show more NeTe than NeFe. Due to the expertise of the demonstrative function. I know your system is different I guess. But from my life experience ENTP’s are very good at Te (especially condensing difficult information into useful messaging). But they struggle with Fe where they try to ”fit in” and inspire and mottivate and ”sell” their ideas to an audience. Whereas ENFP’s are excellent at Fe but struggle to convey ideas logically and explain their usefulness. In this sense I challenge your classification of ENFP as NeTe and ENTP as NeFe :)
In CPT, ENFP uses NeTe and FeNe, while ENTP uses NeFe and TeNe. He even acknowledges that shadow divergent auxiliary a.k.a the critic function is strongly present in the psyche, which leads to a common subtype with that function as its lead e.g. the ESFJ subtype of ENFP, the ESTJ subtype of ENTP.
I believe your definitions for the functions are incomplete or at least not compatible enough for an honest challenge.
Functions are not deterministic. For example, conscious Fe does not equate to social grace it simply refers to the preference for operating within the TiFe frame of mind. Concious+convergent Fe aka 1st or 3rd slot, will often not operate within the boundaries that divergent Fe observes(conciously or unconsiously). The 6th slot, in nearly every system including socionics, represents an area of perceived success, but it is not the frame from which the individual operates. It is a primarily unconscious skill.
3rd slot agency takes concious risks against the divergent domain that a 4th slot, 6th slot, or 2nd slot of the same function operates within.
The direct application of discrete 8 function models simply don't work for describing the cognitive archetypes that you see in the wild.
20:30 So does it signify that an INFJ is not apt for mathematically inclined academic or research setting due to NiTi's fluid approach which lacks rigor?
In my experience, quite the opposite. The tendency of NiTi is to uncover approximate layouts for the solution to a given problem. It's not so much about optimizing the next step as in SiTi, but taking a step back and coming up with conjectures as to how the pieces all fit together. NiTi is able to see things SiTi can't and vice versa. These two pairings supplement each other quite well in academics, and both can lead to novel insights.
@@icehuckyorkhawk7043 makes sense yeah it's kinda true what you described. But I kinda wanna know like how much percentage do you think an INFJ cognitively can succeed in mathematics with the approach of conceptualized conjecture making whether it can be efficient in understanding the problems which are full of calculations or to do complex proves e.g., how it's normally asked in IMO or other competitions?
@@nilanjanchanda597 Probably the process/result dichotomy of Socionics would be a good resource for this question, as process types exhibit the parallel of Si-Ti and result types exhibit the parallel of Ni-Ti within that system. The short answer is that Si-Ti aligns more closely to research standards set by academics due to its rigorous data collecting and synthesizing process, while Ni-Ti is more unconventional but has a higher probability than Si-Ti of generating a novel insight. As for who generally does better in challenging, proof-based math competitions, I'd wager that more of the top contestants are result (Ni-Ti) types due to their tendency to lie closer to either extreme of any intellectual spectrum compared to their process counterparts who gravitate more towards the average.
Great video as always! So am i right that INFP, for example, is far more similar to ESTJ, than to ISFP or ISTJ. Or INFJ to ESTP. From what ive heard, the distance between oppositional types is far less than between neighbour stacks. Kudos!
I'm wondering the same. Especially now given the cognitive networks, I would say in many ways they are more similar.
Same goes for i.e INTJ/ESFP being more similar to each other that to ISFP/ENTJ.
INFPs are extremely different from ESTJs. Te inferior is a disaster, especially when coupled with Ne. At least Se is still attached to the external material reality. With Ne you can get completely detached from the immediate material surrounding, from the here and now, and live entirely in your head. Problem is, how do you make a living from that when even if you find some possible solutions it's so difficult for you to follow through since you can't put your logic above your feelings?
How does your (as an INFJ) gateway to Si-Fi manifest itself in real life?
this is probaly a very good video and guide for me to find my type but thter are too many funny words to understand
ENFP are clearly more NeFe. And ENTP clearly more NeTe in my opinion. In real life observations.
ENFP have strong Ne and Fe but in CPT the nature of a function is determined by its supporting function, so in the ENFP case Ne is supported by Te while Fe is supported by Ne. So the ENFP's strongest functions are NeTe and strong FeNe. Your observation that ENFP likes to impose social harmony in a group setting is an example of FeNe, which is different from its cousin NeFe with the order switched, which influences people's experiences by using them as an emotional sounding board and is more character of the ENTP.
So to reiterate the ENFP has strongest Ne and Fe but these two functions do not operate alongside each other. They are supported by Te and Ne respectively. And when Ne and Fe do operate together in the ENFP it is FeNe rather than NeFe.
Stated simply, these simple explanations of convergent functions are only 1 part of type and can not be used alone.
If you add to NeFe the observed and authoritative Ti value, which presents predominant to the Fe agency, then the result will look more like your "real life" ENTPs. Namely, a person who succeeds on the Te-Se plane while not personally relating to the Fi-Te self-concept at all.
ENFP - NeTe where the observed and authoritative Fi value is presented predominant to Te agency. Succeeds on the Fe-Se while not relating to Ti-Fe at all.
2 minutes about every type, but than 7 minutes about intj 😅🤯
Been a whiles, hope you been good.
Do you have information on how many individuals you have typed for each cognition? Which is the cognition that you have the least customers, and which you have the most. That is a secret? if so, why is really curious; I don't really see a valid motivation to keep this hidden
He has mentioned before that ESTP/ESF-NT seems to the be the type he types the least in this community. Given my interactions on the discord & FB group I'd hazard a guess at INFJ/INT-SF as well.
As above, ESTP the least. Perhaps ENTP the most!
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In this video description of Ni and Ne on MBTI system ruclips.net/video/dVFyTmenBbs/видео.html
it sems to me Ne is mostly close to NeTe while Ni to SiFi CPT cognitive fuctions, am I right?
Dude, am I an isfp? 😂
Is it possible for a INFP to become an Evil Dictator regardless if it’s possible I like write a story where the villain of the Story is a INFP Dictator and the hero is a INTJ Punk
There was actually an INFP character like that in the Last of Us (rebellion leader)