I got a regular ACH (Non-High Cut), with ARC Rails, Norotos NVG mount, and Team Wendy Pads for $450 on EBay back in 2020. Currently getting it cut from Kustom ACH so I’m excited for its return back in my life ❤️
The reason the Amazon helmet covers and counterweights are so cheap compared to the TNVC version is they're not NIR compliant. They light up like a lightbulb under any IR light
Would you mind explaining why this is important? Why does NIR matter for the civilian and does this mean it glows passively or when illuminated by a laser?
@@wongkeebs4327 NIR compliance isn't really a real thing, it's a marketing hype. Basically if a manufacturer uses knockoff cordura fabric then under night vision it will be a different shade than normal. They don't actually glow like people claim, it just means there is a disparity between visible and IR camouflage (think like a change in tint). So NIR compliant fabrics have a coat applied to change the tint. No one in the military really worries about NIR compliance, if you are going to be detected at night it is going to be by sound or your thermal signature. If you are worried though, simply look at your clothing in your night vision. Does it look acceptable? Then you are good and don't worry about it.
@@wongkeebs4327Doesn’t really matter for a civilian. Only matters to civilians that don’t want to glow under NVGs. NIR compliant materials mask the inherent radiance of IR light they produce. But even then people that go and buy all this stuff end up throwing it in a washing machine and all the optic whiteners in the detergent make that stuff look like a light show under NVGs.
@@collinjohnson7006 Anything with genuine Crye, ATACS, or other fabric should be good to go. UR-tactical is probably going to be one of the lowest priced options here, as it is stitched in Hong-Kong with USA made fabrics. Savotta helmet covers from Finland are also really good, but cost 2x.
I chose the path of outfitting two people with a complete single tube setup over duals. That being said (and when it’s just me stomping through the woods and stargazing) sometimes I will put both 14’s on a pano bridge and increase the field of view to 75 degrees (more like 70 useable).
I got lucky & entered the I2 game about 13 years ago. Like you, I do my best to help others avoid the pitfalls. After that many years of trying Everything under the sun I'm finally where I want to be - It takes time, patience & most of all money - but that's the nature of the beast.
a full cut helmet with TCAPs is better. yes it's not the cool guy thing, but it's more practical. better ballistic coverage, bone conducting mic, no earcups squeezing your head or breaking their seal, and you can still use your earpro without a helmet on. also they run on a single AA
Where do you get your TCAPs? I was thinking of doing a high cut but feel like you do about better ballistic protection, plus the realization that in-ear protection typically offers more dB reduction than muffs.
@@AEtrane Peltor sport 500's with gel cups are really hard to beat on noise reduction, it's like -28nrr. I think comtacs are only like -23nrr. Since 10nrr is an order of magnitude, 4 or 5 more is actually a lot.
If people want to get into night vision and are dead set on Gen 3, got Omni 7 or Omni 8 Tubes. You reallyyyyy can get them at crazy prices. I just replaced the Photonis tube in my Tanto PVs-14 for 1100. I feel bad for guys who have chased the crazy spec sheets to notice my 1100 Omni 8 tube didnt preform much difference than some people whove paid over 3k+ for their PVS=14. Yes, theyre green and we all know white is the new hotness....but like you said with the filters, it makes it SOOOO much easier on the eyes. It cuts light output a bit, but maybe 15-20%. If its too dark to see, just take the filter off. Other than that - Omni 7/8 tubes are amazing and it was new to me that they dont even go for that much when you can find them
Exactly, I cannot imagine spending 4k or more even on a white phos unfilmed when I can get a gp great spec omni 7 0r 8 for under 2k. Im likely gonna panobridge two 14's in the future for less than some people spend on one tube.
@@user-kv5lq9xm8c Ebay, Reddit, Discord. The Nightvision reddit/discord has alot of great people in it that give great prices. Ebay and other forums can have great deals aswell. If you dont go through a dealer then you wont have a warranty and you need to understand specs before purchasing so you dont get ripped off. But if you can find a good deal and trust the other party, its the best place to look.
6:19 having the device turned off won't protect it from sun/bright light damage, it may not happen as quick with the power off but it will still get damaged. The test I saw was on the dirty civillian channel, it did also show they are a little bit more robust & forgiving than some ppl give them credit for & black boxing them can help fix some blems, but definitely have your device turned off & with the cpas on during the daytime, this is too expensive of an investment to risk permanent damage
@@Tattlebot Yeah the test I've seen have shown the tubes to be a bit more robust than ppl think they are, but they will get ruined by bright light exposure, it just depends on what type of light, how bright how close etc. as for the sun test it left a huge arcing blem across most of zone 1 & a good bit of zone 2. Though it wasn't instant it was within a very short time, likely within a few min there would of been the start of the damage, after half hour the tube would of had the start of the arc & already been unrepairable by blackboxing
@@mattchandler9134 3d printed, chinese lenses, nnvt blem tubes/blem tubes from elsewhere or get lucky. If you weren't stupid and really wanted to have nvgs for cheap you would already know this
I’m not trying to be rude or be that guy or even a Karen or Kyle. But if you’re going to get a ballistic helmet then save a little bit of money ( it’s not like you are going to combat) and wear your bump cap longer. It’s lighter and it actually breathes more than a ballistic helmet unless you are going with the air frame or if you already have a ops core bump helmet they make nij lvl 3 low profile armor plates. By cutting the ACH or MICH into a high cut you’re not getting the nij lvl 3 rating any more. By cutting the ACH you’re weakening the ballistic material in the shell. Yes you could always buy a slapp plate but that’s only for the front. You don’t need to go out and spend your rent/mortgage money on a Wendy helmet, OPs core helmet or a Galvion Helmet honestly you’re paying for the name. Those big names start out around $1500 usd and run upwards of $2500 usd. There’s plenty of other legitimate companies out here that sell them all day long for $500 USD or less. There’s plenty of videos out there that prove that those helmets hold up the same and sometimes even better
I think people have tested the cut ACH's and they still work. Just search it. But decent helmets from Armor Source and Protection Group Danmark are available around $500 +/-
RUclips takes about a hour or two depending on length to upload at a higher resolution. If you come back in a few hours it should be up to 1440p. Regardless youtube compression will make it look like shit no matter what :)
everything i see on ebay the seller, at least the ones with good ratings/multiple listings, mentions it is an itar item and wont ship out. i can get it shipped to my po box and drive across the border to pick it up buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.... i dont want to risk the hustle with your NKVD. i hear DHS has zero sense of humour. @@ArmadilloArmament
False...just keeping the device off and mounted to your helmet...the sun will leave you some nice teacers across your lens that black boxing will not fix! Always attach it at dusk and remove it at dawn and keep it in the bag when the sun is up!
As a United States Citizen im allowed to own and operate this technology and these weapons systems so I choose to do so. For the protection of life and liberty my friend.
@@ArmadilloArmament I'd prefer it if they offered night caps and housing in a hi-vis option. Tactical beard types don't necessarily give them a good look in states like Australia where even airsoft is banned for fear of paramilitary activity. There are a lot of things you can do with these, mainly limited by price. They would be standard Australian outback survival gear (walk at night) if the cost permitted it.
I was told something by an older experienced coworker 1 time and it's true "Experience is expensive".
Absolutely.
So true man.
I got a regular ACH (Non-High Cut), with ARC Rails, Norotos NVG mount, and Team Wendy Pads for $450 on EBay back in 2020. Currently getting it cut from Kustom ACH so I’m excited for its return back in my life ❤️
Hell of a setup for that price! Im sure itll serve you well!
thats a fucking awful deal dude
KustomACH is AWESOME. Great having a true ballistic high cut for fraction the price.
The reason the Amazon helmet covers and counterweights are so cheap compared to the TNVC version is they're not NIR compliant. They light up like a lightbulb under any IR light
Would you mind explaining why this is important? Why does NIR matter for the civilian and does this mean it glows passively or when illuminated by a laser?
@@wongkeebs4327it doesn't really matter, buy whatever you want and then find a spray paint that doesn't glow under IR.
@@wongkeebs4327 NIR compliance isn't really a real thing, it's a marketing hype. Basically if a manufacturer uses knockoff cordura fabric then under night vision it will be a different shade than normal. They don't actually glow like people claim, it just means there is a disparity between visible and IR camouflage (think like a change in tint). So NIR compliant fabrics have a coat applied to change the tint. No one in the military really worries about NIR compliance, if you are going to be detected at night it is going to be by sound or your thermal signature.
If you are worried though, simply look at your clothing in your night vision. Does it look acceptable? Then you are good and don't worry about it.
@@wongkeebs4327Doesn’t really matter for a civilian. Only matters to civilians that don’t want to glow under NVGs. NIR compliant materials mask the inherent radiance of IR light they produce. But even then people that go and buy all this stuff end up throwing it in a washing machine and all the optic whiteners in the detergent make that stuff look like a light show under NVGs.
@@collinjohnson7006 Anything with genuine Crye, ATACS, or other fabric should be good to go. UR-tactical is probably going to be one of the lowest priced options here, as it is stitched in Hong-Kong with USA made fabrics.
Savotta helmet covers from Finland are also really good, but cost 2x.
I chose the path of outfitting two people with a complete single tube setup over duals. That being said (and when it’s just me stomping through the woods and stargazing) sometimes I will put both 14’s on a pano bridge and increase the field of view to 75 degrees (more like 70 useable).
I got lucky & entered the I2 game about 13 years ago. Like you, I do my best to help others avoid the pitfalls. After that many years of trying Everything under the sun I'm finally where I want to be - It takes time, patience & most of all money - but that's the nature of the beast.
That was a good explanation, and you have some good ideas, thank you.
a full cut helmet with TCAPs is better. yes it's not the cool guy thing, but it's more practical. better ballistic coverage, bone conducting mic, no earcups squeezing your head or breaking their seal, and you can still use your earpro without a helmet on. also they run on a single AA
Where do you get your TCAPs? I was thinking of doing a high cut but feel like you do about better ballistic protection, plus the realization that in-ear protection typically offers more dB reduction than muffs.
@@AEtrane ebay
@@or6060 very cool. Thanks
@@AEtrane Peltor sport 500's with gel cups are really hard to beat on noise reduction, it's like -28nrr. I think comtacs are only like -23nrr. Since 10nrr is an order of magnitude, 4 or 5 more is actually a lot.
If people want to get into night vision and are dead set on Gen 3, got Omni 7 or Omni 8 Tubes. You reallyyyyy can get them at crazy prices. I just replaced the Photonis tube in my Tanto PVs-14 for 1100. I feel bad for guys who have chased the crazy spec sheets to notice my 1100 Omni 8 tube didnt preform much difference than some people whove paid over 3k+ for their PVS=14. Yes, theyre green and we all know white is the new hotness....but like you said with the filters, it makes it SOOOO much easier on the eyes. It cuts light output a bit, but maybe 15-20%. If its too dark to see, just take the filter off. Other than that - Omni 7/8 tubes are amazing and it was new to me that they dont even go for that much when you can find them
Exactly, I cannot imagine spending 4k or more even on a white phos unfilmed when I can get a gp great spec omni 7 0r 8 for under 2k. Im likely gonna panobridge two 14's in the future for less than some people spend on one tube.
@@ArmadilloArmamentwhat are reputable dealers that y’all find these setups at?
@@user-kv5lq9xm8c Ebay, Reddit, Discord. The Nightvision reddit/discord has alot of great people in it that give great prices. Ebay and other forums can have great deals aswell. If you dont go through a dealer then you wont have a warranty and you need to understand specs before purchasing so you dont get ripped off. But if you can find a good deal and trust the other party, its the best place to look.
Insane to even come close to “a FREE helmet AND NV for < $2K”…and it was admittedly at THOSE prices. SHOULD a have bought a lottery ticket too!
6:19 having the device turned off won't protect it from sun/bright light damage, it may not happen as quick with the power off but it will still get damaged. The test I saw was on the dirty civillian channel, it did also show they are a little bit more robust & forgiving than some ppl give them credit for & black boxing them can help fix some blems, but definitely have your device turned off & with the cpas on during the daytime, this is too expensive of an investment to risk permanent damage
You’re absolutely correct. If that’s not what I said then I wholeheartedly agree.
Direct exposure to sun when turned off will cause almost immediate damage depending on irradiance.
@@Tattlebot Yeah the test I've seen have shown the tubes to be a bit more robust than ppl think they are, but they will get ruined by bright light exposure, it just depends on what type of light, how bright how close etc. as for the sun test it left a huge arcing blem across most of zone 1 & a good bit of zone 2. Though it wasn't instant it was within a very short time, likely within a few min there would of been the start of the damage, after half hour the tube would of had the start of the arc & already been unrepairable by blackboxing
Cat approved set up. Excellent vid!👍
that discord notification got me lmao. nice video buddy!
My thoughts is get what you want, you won't be disappointed later.
True
Anyone else read the thumbnail and instantly replied: "too late!"?
I love these small channels they actually spend time feeling like hello friends let’s chat
Duuuude you rock
where did you get the filter on the back of the pv14 my eyes don't care for the green to much
Low light innovations.
im going to just buy a thermo scope ...
Saw a guy build real deal dual tube nv for under 1k here on RUclips
Where
I'd love to be wrong, but I really don't see this being possible in 2023
@@mattchandler9134 3d printed, chinese lenses, nnvt blem tubes/blem tubes from elsewhere or get lucky. If you weren't stupid and really wanted to have nvgs for cheap you would already know this
Armor Source beats TW and OC
PGD Arch gen 3 is a really good option, possibly a little better than a similar spec Armor source. The PGD is kevlar instead of HMWPE
I’m not trying to be rude or be that guy or even a Karen or Kyle. But if you’re going to get a ballistic helmet then save a little bit of money ( it’s not like you are going to combat) and wear your bump cap longer. It’s lighter and it actually breathes more than a ballistic helmet unless you are going with the air frame or if you already have a ops core bump helmet they make nij lvl 3 low profile armor plates. By cutting the ACH or MICH into a high cut you’re not getting the nij lvl 3 rating any more. By cutting the ACH you’re weakening the ballistic material in the shell. Yes you could always buy a slapp plate but that’s only for the front. You don’t need to go out and spend your rent/mortgage money on a Wendy helmet, OPs core helmet or a Galvion Helmet honestly you’re paying for the name. Those big names start out around $1500 usd and run upwards of $2500 usd. There’s plenty of other legitimate companies out here that sell them all day long for $500 USD or less. There’s plenty of videos out there that prove that those helmets hold up the same and sometimes even better
I think people have tested the cut ACH's and they still work. Just search it.
But decent helmets from Armor Source and Protection Group Danmark are available around $500 +/-
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only 360p ?
RUclips takes about a hour or two depending on length to upload at a higher resolution. If you come back in a few hours it should be up to 1440p. Regardless youtube compression will make it look like shit no matter what :)
360 was great man. I remember when youtube added 720p, it was insane.
This could of been summed up as buy used and counterfeit gear.
too bad used tubes fall under itar and cant be exported out of the us to snow mexico :(
I thought new tubes were ITAR restricted aswell? Depending on the tube of course. Interesting.
everything i see on ebay the seller, at least the ones with good ratings/multiple listings, mentions it is an itar item and wont ship out. i can get it shipped to my po box and drive across the border to pick it up buuuuuuuuuuuuuuut.... i dont want to risk the hustle with your NKVD. i hear DHS has zero sense of humour.
@@ArmadilloArmament
For free from a military friend yeah he def stole that from someone or supply😂
Shhh
Don’t snitch on a homie
Hi
THIS VID IS NOT ABOUT NIGHT VISION. ITS ABOUT HELMETS. DONT WATCH.
Nightvision as a setup requires alot of support equipment to be effective. This covers nods + supporting equipment.
Then change the dang title of the vid.
@@realistguy6605 nah
Dope video
False...just keeping the device off and mounted to your helmet...the sun will leave you some nice teacers across your lens that black boxing will not fix! Always attach it at dusk and remove it at dawn and keep it in the bag when the sun is up!
It has a bikini cover.
Most poeple don't need it. If they have a job that need it that buy it.
Leave
So you want to go “cheap” and have no warranty with the “most expensive part of the build”?!?
Yes
not all of us can afford to spend 2k on the tube alone.
Lmfao oh man the twcticool civies running around kill me…
Why you need nightvision just throw out a bunch of chem sticks youll see just fine
Hey, what's more fun than running around in the woods in full kit at night!?
As a United States Citizen im allowed to own and operate this technology and these weapons systems so I choose to do so. For the protection of life and liberty my friend.
Oh yeah seeing in the dark should be limited to the goverment only cuz "too tactical".
You're just mad you can't afford it lmfao
@@ArmadilloArmament i wish every citizen would take their duty as serious. We've become a bunch of pussies.... I mean pushovers...
@@ArmadilloArmament I'd prefer it if they offered night caps and housing in a hi-vis option. Tactical beard types don't necessarily give them a good look in states like Australia where even airsoft is banned for fear of paramilitary activity. There are a lot of things you can do with these, mainly limited by price. They would be standard Australian outback survival gear (walk at night) if the cost permitted it.
In my opinion, you really just wanted to show off that helmet...lol