Great Players of the Past: Howard Staunton
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2022
- Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... GM Ben Finegold discusses four of Howard Staunton's best games, part of the Great Players of the Past Lecture Series. This lecture was recorded June 23, 2021, at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Atlanta (CCSCATL) in Roswell, Georgia.
REUPLOAD FOR CHANNEL CONSOLIDATION: Originally posted on the CCSCATL Channel on July 7th, 2021.
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09:13 John Cochrane vs Staunton, London Match, Game 2, 1842
13:13 Staunton vs John Cochrane, London 1842
17:13 Staunton vs Bernhard Horwitz, London Match, Game 3, 1846
23:06 Staunton vs NN, casual game, London 1840
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Man, don't forget to mention that the English opening is called that BECAUSE Staunton advocated it. (In other words, it's named after him, the same way the Spanish and Italian are named after gentlemen from those nations.)
Yeah he was among the earliest advocates for the Sicilian and the English is pretty much that with colours reversed
I love how Ben is a student of the game and its history. I love the stream but as a long time fan since before the stream I am an even bigger fan of the lectures. Thank you for continuing to make and upload them.
GM Finegold is one of the finest chess teachers who ever lived ;no wikipedia article needed. But someone could make an article please! This guy is shaping and improving our knowledge of chess like few others.
Staunton's play was frankly ridiculous. Thanks for making a pretty nifty chess set I guess.
Still awaiting the new series: 'Mediocre players of the present' ;-)
Featuring ("decent") Nakamura, Nepomniachtchi and Finegold.
and featuring me, the mediocrest player of all time
Hello Grandmaster Finegold. Thank you for this excellent exposition upon Britain's chess lion Howard Staunton. The truth is the younger Howard Staunton was very, very strong. There is some reason why most opening play in competitive chess today follows the strategies and lines of play he mastered and published upon first, setting the mold for mainstream play practically ever since; with some notable variations. When I encouraged people to stop copying Staunton and question the chess orthodoxy, I wasn't denigrating Staunton himself; But we don't even play and study Morphy's openings, variations, and gambits and it's plain as day Staunton refused to play Morphy to illegitimately keep his world championship title as Morphy was making childsplay of all the other British and European chess and aristocrat elites who challenged him; People who had mixed or even equal records with Staunton at his best. And it's not just Morphy's chess ideas we've neglected: the whole hypermodern school of chess, led by figures like Nimzovitch but including no less than the German Alexander Alekhine has been forgotten as inferior. All this is just unsound. Chess is a complex 'game' that when played by two smart players is fiercely contested over every move and every advanced pawn. No chess, idea, especially abandoning the center for unorthodox play will guarantee victory. But it may give savvy chess players an edge because this historic, forgotten play is quite sound and today's competitive chess players not only don't know the lines of play well; They've never imagined such strategies could be serious or possible. Also, chess computers often win because they are massive databases of what current experts think is the best play. Since these experts are wrong, and since so little analytical attention has been given to these openings and lines of play(though there are high tournament games to teach us how,) in the age of computers that is, the computers have virtually no information and wrong information at that. With that, thanks again Grandmaster Benjamin Finegold.
Finally, I've been eagerly awaiting Ben on Staunton! Very interesting perspectives on his greatness.
14:15 Positional Strategic player - only sac.ed one pawn instead of all his pieces. Priceless Ben. Bravo!
Thank you Mr. GM BEN!
Always repeat!
Very well analyzed, Ben. So what I learned is:
1. 10.Ne5?? by White was a bad move.
2. After the attacking move 13.e6 Also 13...Bxe6 is very strong, because after 14.Bxe6 Nf6 will win the bishop back.
3. After 14.exf7+ Ke7!! will win, but 14...Kf8?? is very bad because 15.Bxf4!!
4. 17. Rd1?? was a bad move. Much better is for example 17.Qh4 because after 17...Ne5 18.Bh6 wins, or 17.e5 Nxe5 and 18.Ne4 and wins
5- After 18.Qh2 is ...Nxc4 is very interesting 19.Qc7+ Bd7! 20.Rxd7 Kf8 and White can not win.
6. 23. Qg7+ ?? which is played in the game is losing. Only 5.Qg5+ will draw.
7. After 24.Qh6+ which is played in the game the amazing move 24...Kc5!! will win. After 25.Qe3+ Kxc4!! will win in two lines:
A: after 26.a3 Nd3 + !! wins or
B: after 26.b3+ Kb4 27.a3 Ka5! and Black wins.
I just learned something about Staunton that tips me in favor of him - probably one of the most influential personages in the game of chess. Staunton lobbied for our modern way of castling and tried to standardize the rules internationally. That's really important.
7:47 gotta love Mike Kummer jokes
Little known fact: John Cochrane stood up in the middle of the match and exclaim: "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit!" Nobody understood what he was talking about and the match continued without incident.
So good
Ah yes, first game is Howard Staunton versus Johnnie Cochran, master of the very well known opening trap the Chewbacca Defense. He only won one very famous game that way, but it worked, and it made him very rich.
We have Staunton Chess Set because of Staunton .
Man, maybe a lesson on cleaning up system tray, taskbar and browser toolbars would be in order.😅
Ben, NN is not 'No Name' though that's what it basically means. It is Nomen Nescio, latin: I don't know the (his,her) name
Go Ben!
but I sure that I saw it somewhere else but where when I can't remember specifically Bishop x f4 move and the comments of Ben and his son and the when Ben ask his son did Staunton calculate all this and se the position to Bxf4
Whenever Staunton saw Morphy he would duck 😂😂😂
NN is my favorite great player of the past
You have to read his opening analysis books to understand how great a chess analytician he was. Especially his analysis of the Italian game. The EVANS GAMBIT.
You have to read it to understand.
Many things that he wrote are still true. Nobody proved his analysis of Evan’s gambit wrong.
Hey Ben, how about a video on the tactically gifted Von Heyderbrant und der Lasa, who has the longest name in chess history?
Bowdler Attack in Game 1 - yay!
As far as the Capablanca vs Alekhine issue, I'm about 100% certain Alekhine was ducking Capablanca. Capablanca had gotten the required funds for a rematch but it never happened. Morphy stayed in Staunton's house for a while. There's no reason why they couldn't have played.
Capa - Alek issue is not that cut and dried. There is a lot involved that most people don't know.
@@dannygjk like?
@@Eidenhoek Example Alekhine wanted to follow the same guidelines as was agreed to by Capablanca et al.
Morphy was in England and kept playing all the patzers that Staunton typically played and Morphy crushed them all more completely than Staunton did, so Staunton bravely ran away like Sir Robin.
9:50 (opponent plays 2.Bc4 against the Sicilian) "now be nice" XD
What's up with Morphy's shoes?
Hikaru Nakamura said Staunton was an amazing player in one of his videos.
He didn't castle queenside in that one game because he touched the rook first so NN wouldn't let him
Those first two games were slaughters.
They must have been played on 10th Avenue.
Is this a re-upload? I’m sure I’ve seen this before.
Was wondering the same?
@@theinstigatorr it is for sure I remember making a comment on Ben saying “Staunton also played 1.c4” - no shit Ben it’s called the English after Staunton.
@@Dessan01 yes it’s in the description
So where are you on "Was Alekhine ducking Capablanca?" Ben?
His dad was a big Capablanca guy so I'm guessing he inherited the view that Alekhine ducked him. The reason is because Alekhine ducked him. It wasn't personal. He ducked a lot of good players and tried to find guys he could beat like Euwe and he wrote in a rematch so Euwe couldn't duck him when he did lose to Euwe.
Shame Staunton didn't play Morphy. Would have been great to see Morphy defend the Dutch against the Staunton gambit.
And nothing about Ignatz von Kolisch? Red thumb.
I think you castle in the Evans gambit before d4 because of the pin from the Bishop because wouldn't black just take the pawn and then whites c3 pawn can't recapture because of the pin
Didn't you do a Staunton lecture 2 years ago. I seem to remember you commenting that you were surprised at how strong of an attacker he was.
He's reuploading all of them from the CCSATL channel since they sold the chess center.
Edit: and by "he", I mean Karen. Ben doesn't know computer stuff
@@12jswilson thanks.
was staying in his old house just the other day!
I watched the intro, but I didn't know who was not Ben Finegold, confusing.
By the standards of the time, he was strategic and positional ...
If one can't dazzle with tactics then play positionally.
do you think guys that this episode was shared before I think I saw it 2 or 3 months ago
Yes, but I think it was on the ATL chess club channel. Not Ben’s personal. All I can think of.
No one reads the description! Terrible! - Ben’s Editor
@@GMBenjaminFinegold so in the description 23rd June 2021 it's terrible day so hot and so long day relatives to night
always flip the day ..... no body
"no wonder fischer liked him"
Staunton must have played those games after he was young. His games used to look nothing like modern chess. Obviously Staunton studied Morphy's games.
I expected Staunton gambit game
I thought "Anonymous" was Ted Danson... anyone...?
The guy who shat his pant because he had to play Paul Morphy 💙💙💙
Bobby Fischer says you would too ...
Dogs pant.
Staunton best player from 1843-50 then gave up chess. Morphy challenge was 8 years later- he'd have been about 50 in Victorian England. Morphy was obv better but Staunton was a pioneer kind of weird how you intro'd this
Staunton wasn't that bad, the game against NN was very impressive. I'm being serious.
3 hours ago! fuck yes. We love you Ben
Howard Stern >
Ben Finegold.... crushes his opponents in chess, crushes his opponents in verbal play, can't work out how to use Zoom :)
There's a shadow on this otherwise great player: he found toddler's excuses to avoid meeting Paul Morphy. I cannot like him but he was anyway a very good player.
In that last game Ben seems to have left out the final part which was, frankly, ridiculous. Staunton blunders, was dead lost, then just ordinary lost, then his opponent created a selfmate in 3 because he was bored. Verrry suspicious.
30:18, In real life, you're not cheating - so you lose all the time. True - I cheat only when it's easy. - Being both - dishonest and cowardly. - Impressive.
It’s funny how you only needed not to be a slave to become a famous chess player
Ben Finegold is to computers what Donald Trump is to tact and diplomacy. The truth hurts!
Paul Morphy and the shoe joke: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Morphy#Abandonment_of_chess
No respect for Staunton whatsoever. He avoided Morphy like the plague.